24hourcampfire.com
24hourcampfire.com
-->
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Hop To
Page 1 of 2 1 2
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 8,659
O
Campfire Outfitter
OP Offline
Campfire Outfitter
O
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 8,659
I picked up a new to me Montana 270 from the 24hr classifieds, on my first quick range trip it shot just under 1” for the first 3 rounds, now I taken it a few times my 5 shot groups are closer to 1.75” to 2' with the same rounds.

When I torque the action to 45 lbs it did not feel like the action was tight. I also could not move the magazine box, after removing the stock and trying again the mag box is now free. I am thinking of bedding the recoil lug, should I also bed the entire action?

How far do you up the barrel do you go?

Whats your preferred bedding compound, release agent?

Do you at a pressure point at the end?

Any tips for a first timer?

Here is what my before is..
[Linked Image]


Ted
GB1

Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 10,086
Campfire Outfitter
Offline
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 10,086

Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 32,130
Campfire 'Bwana
Offline
Campfire 'Bwana
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 32,130
I use an engraver, the vibrating type, to spall up the existing bedding.

[Linked Image]


Originally Posted by 16penny
If you put Taco Bell sauce in your ramen noodles it tastes just like poverty
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 32,130
Campfire 'Bwana
Offline
Campfire 'Bwana
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 32,130
This is a Kimber Mountain Ascent. I used Foredom carbide carving burrs to carefully remove the factory bedding, which was painted and partially hydro dipped.

[Linked Image]
[Linked Image]


Originally Posted by 16penny
If you put Taco Bell sauce in your ramen noodles it tastes just like poverty
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 8,659
O
Campfire Outfitter
OP Offline
Campfire Outfitter
O
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 8,659


great write up, thanks

Last edited by old_willys; 04/23/17.

Ted
IC B2

Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 7,292
S
Campfire Tracker
Offline
Campfire Tracker
S
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 7,292
Are you dissatisfied with that accuracy? Seems "minute of deer" to me.


"The universal aptitude for ineptitude makes any human accomplishment an incredible miracle." John Stapp - "Stapp's Law"
"Klaatu barada nikto"

Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 8,659
O
Campfire Outfitter
OP Offline
Campfire Outfitter
O
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 8,659
It is minute of deer but I think the action could fit better which would make it shoot even better. Besides it is time I learned to do my own bedding.


Ted
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 12,153
C
Campfire Outfitter
Offline
Campfire Outfitter
C
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 12,153
Marine Tex grey and Kiwi neutral shoe polish for release agent.

Joined: Jul 2016
Posts: 615
K
Campfire Regular
Offline
Campfire Regular
K
Joined: Jul 2016
Posts: 615
Brownells Acraglas gel and paste wax. I bed the front action ring and about an inch and a half of the barrel, free float the rest of the way. Be sure the magazine box is free and there is clearance around the action screws. Invest in some long bedding guide screws to keep the action straight as you set it into the stock. I then use clamps to seat the action into the stock and bedding compound.
There are many other methods that work but this works for me. I normally do 20 to 30 bedding jobs a year.

Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 24,851
T
Campfire Ranger
Offline
Campfire Ranger
T
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 24,851
Devcon 10110, and kiwi paste wax.


.
IC B3

Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 48,024
B
Campfire 'Bwana
Offline
Campfire 'Bwana
B
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 48,024
Devcon 10110 and Johnson's paste wax...


Originally Posted by raybass
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style.
Originally Posted by Pharmseller
You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole.

BSA MAGA
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 9,209
Campfire Outfitter
Offline
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 9,209
Originally Posted by bsa1917hunter
Devcon 10110 and Johnson's paste wax...

And have wd40 with q-tips handy for clean up.


Originally Posted by BrentD

I would not buy something that runs on any kind of primer given the possibility of primer shortages and even regulations. In fact, why not buy a flintlock? Really. Rocks aren't going away anytime soon.
Joined: Feb 2001
Posts: 50,627
Campfire Kahuna
Offline
Campfire Kahuna
Joined: Feb 2001
Posts: 50,627
Originally Posted by Tom264
Devcon 10110, and kiwi paste wax.


An outstanding product, but overkill for bedding due to cost and high viscosity. It is often difficult to get perfectly complete bedding jobs with it in shops that run to the cool side because it is stiffer than most epoxies.

I apply it on the action and the stock before assembling to avoid the issue, which makes estimating the required amount a bit tougher... far from a bad choice though.


Mark Begich, Joaquin Jackson, and Heller resistance... Three huge reasons to worry about the NRA.
Joined: Feb 2001
Posts: 50,627
Campfire Kahuna
Offline
Campfire Kahuna
Joined: Feb 2001
Posts: 50,627
Originally Posted by Kp321
Brownells Acraglas gel and paste wax. I bed the front action ring and about an inch and a half of the barrel, free float the rest of the way. Be sure the magazine box is free and there is clearance around the action screws. Invest in some long bedding guide screws to keep the action straight as you set it into the stock. I then use clamps to seat the action into the stock and bedding compound.
There are many other methods that work but this works for me. I normally do 20 to 30 bedding jobs a year.


Very ordinary epoxy at a premium price...


Mark Begich, Joaquin Jackson, and Heller resistance... Three huge reasons to worry about the NRA.
Joined: Feb 2001
Posts: 50,627
Campfire Kahuna
Offline
Campfire Kahuna
Joined: Feb 2001
Posts: 50,627
Originally Posted by Crow hunter
Marine Tex grey and Kiwi neutral shoe polish for release agent.


Marine Tex is my current favorite. And gray is the only one to use as the white is actually for gel coat repair and significantly more brittle than the gray.


Mark Begich, Joaquin Jackson, and Heller resistance... Three huge reasons to worry about the NRA.
Joined: Feb 2001
Posts: 50,627
Campfire Kahuna
Offline
Campfire Kahuna
Joined: Feb 2001
Posts: 50,627
Originally Posted by S99VG
Are you dissatisfied with that accuracy? Seems "minute of deer" to me.


Heresy! Complete heresy!


Mark Begich, Joaquin Jackson, and Heller resistance... Three huge reasons to worry about the NRA.
Joined: Sep 2014
Posts: 21,768
Campfire Ranger
Offline
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Sep 2014
Posts: 21,768
Have used JB Weld, not the five minute kind, and Johnson paste wax. Worked fine. Tried the Miles Gilbert kit from Midway. It does not get rock hard. Thought it was ratio, but several attemps gave the same results. Maybe I got a bad batch, but why try again when there are many good choices.


Parents who say they have good kids..Usually don't!
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 1,523
G
Campfire Regular
Offline
Campfire Regular
G
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 1,523
Originally Posted by Dillonbuck
Have used JB Weld, not the five minute kind, and Johnson paste wax. Worked fine. Tried the Miles Gilbert kit from Midway. It does not get rock hard. Thought it was ratio, but several attemps gave the same results. Maybe I got a bad batch, but why try again when there are many good choices.


I've had the same experience with the Miles Gilbert kit and I was very careful with the measurements. Thought it might be the micro-balloons. Nice kit as far as the accessories go, but the epoxy itself is sub-par.

Joined: Mar 2011
Posts: 4,963
C
Campfire Tracker
Offline
Campfire Tracker
C
Joined: Mar 2011
Posts: 4,963
Really like the Pro-Bed 2000 kit from Score High Gunsmithing.


Mauser Rescue Society
Founder, President, and Chairman

I don't always shoot Mausers, but when I do...I prefer VZ-24s.

jdi do píči
Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 1,166
P
Campfire Regular
Offline
Campfire Regular
P
Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 1,166
Acraglas Gel and Brownell's release agent.

Page 1 of 2 1 2

Moderated by  RickBin 

Link Copied to Clipboard
AX24

428 members (16penny, 10gaugemag, 10ring1, 11point, 1beaver_shooter, 10gaugeman, 60 invisible), 2,577 guests, and 1,248 robots.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Forum Statistics
Forums81
Topics1,191,386
Posts18,469,668
Members73,931
Most Online11,491
Jul 7th, 2023


 


Fish & Game Departments | Solunar Tables | Mission Statement | Privacy Policy | Contact Us | DMCA
Hunting | Fishing | Camping | Backpacking | Reloading | Campfire Forums | Gear Shop
Copyright © 2000-2024 24hourcampfire.com, Inc. All Rights Reserved.



Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.5
(Release build 20201027)
Responsive Width:

PHP: 7.3.33 Page Time: 0.111s Queries: 15 (0.004s) Memory: 0.8971 MB (Peak: 1.0481 MB) Data Comp: Zlib Server Time: 2024-04-26 04:13:03 UTC
Valid HTML 5 and Valid CSS