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Currently, and sadly, I don't have a custom 1911 in my stable for the first time in 25 years. A 1911 trigger, tuned by someone who knows what they are doing, beats the best striker fired trigger by a large amount. A tuned 1911 platform trigger is a pleasure to shoot...even in 10mm.

I'm going to bull [bleep] on a Glock handling recoil better than a full size 1911. Yes, I've shot both.

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

I beg to politely differ on that. I shoot both very regularly. The G20 definitely has less felt recoil than a 10mm 1911 using the same load. Ironically a fully loaded G20 weighs less than a fully loaded 1911 too. I think the reason the G20 has less felt recoil is because the grip is substantially wider than a 1911 - more surface area to spread the recoil force, the plastic frame flexes absorbing some energy, and the G20 has a slightly lower bore axis. Accuracy wise, they are both 1" at 10 yards. Against a plate rack (speed drills) the 1911 is faster for me.

I own a Colt Delta Elite O2020XE and a Glock 20C. I'll take the Colt over the Glock any day of the week. In fact, the Glock will soon be looking for a new home.

The polymer frame soaks up A LOT of recoil.

The width of the glock combined with the 800 rounds in the magazine help tame the sting. The 1911 is faster to RTZ for me, but the g20 has less felt recoil.

I have had a couple 20's, I have tried ghost rocket, zev, lighter springs, polishing everything, and it remains difficult to achieve the accuracy that I can get with a simple 4 inch smith and Wesson 44 magnum. Good sights are important, but I wonder if the inherent accuracy of the Glocks from the factory is stellar, add the difficult to master trigger in to the mix and its a challenge for me to make hits at distance. The way the glock trigger breaks and slaps is the biggest problem for me.

Thanks for all the info, stories and experiences men, the 10mm on a 1911 platform will remain a royal PITA, to get the weapon I want, It'll have to be a custom 2011 build, I AM NOT paying $3500+ for a fuggin carry gun!

May as well look for a good DW single stack 10 and carry a few extra mags.

Good on ya.

Late to the party but since I love the 10mm and have owned a boat load of the different iterations I figured I would chime in. I started with an original Colt Delta Elite and it shot OK and felt great in the hand and got me started down the 10mm road but then I bought a Glock 20 and sold the Colt in a fit of stupidity. I have had numerous Glock 20 and 29s and they were all sufficiently accurate and reliable but they are still Glocks. Not a bad thing but just not a 1911. I have had a EAA Witness but it didn't feel right and accuracy was so-so. I had a RIA and it would jam constantly with every brand of magazine I tried so I got rid of it. I have had a couple of the Kimber 1911s and they were OK and the accuracy was not bad. Our department had a couple of their .45s they were testing and they had several issues with reliability so that made me nervous enough to quit carrying them. I had a DW Commander Bobtail and carried it everyday for a long time but someone wanted it more so I sold it. Should have kept that one. I have also had a bunch of the different S&W 1000 series autos and 610 wheel guns. I am now down to my two favorite 10mms that I alternate carrying. The first is a Ruger GP100 converted to 10mm by David Clements and the other is a Sig Tacops. The Tacops does have a rail but it doesn't get in the way. It has a ramped barrel and is extremely accurate with a vast array of loads. I have put quite a few rounds down range without a hiccup. The Sig has a checkered front strap and night sights and comes with 3 excellent magazines. It doesn't have a double stack mag well but have you tried a 1911 double stack? They just don't feel right compared to the normal grip. Having said all that, I would highly recommend giving a Sig a try if you can live without the double stack.

Currently own a glock 20, Dan Wesson razorback and a sig tacops happy with them all. I use the 10 as my everyday carry gun as I live in brown bear country, carry 135 underwoods and 220 buffalo bore hardcast, change of magazine and am ready for any threat. I do require a ramped barrel, why not. SIG is latest purchase and consider it best value for the money and magazines that came with it were best ever seen!

Thanks WyoGal, I ordered a DW, it'll be here tomorrow.

Pacecars, seems like you've narrowed down the 10's physically like I did mentally, the Sig would have been a high contender for the single stack versions were it not for the rail, have handled them in 45 ACP, very nice, and a hell of a bargain for all you get.

Well, I'm going a completely different direction. Just agreed to a partial trade. Getting a S&W 610 6 1/2" N frame. No feed ramp issues, will shoot 10MM or 40 S&W. Love my 1911A1"s but with a non fluted cylinder this thing is a tank. Might even bore it out to accept 10MM Magnum.

Sounds like you have a winning trifecta there, and 10-roger on the ramp, no need to chance it, I have 300 new starline cases on the way and will most likely shoot the 200 gr XTP's at 1200/1250 for everything in my DW, thankks for the tip on the Sig mags as well.

I have a 200 dollar credit at my 'smiths, I'll have him install a nice checkered stainless flat MSH with magwell and may get a nice set of custom grips.

That'll by damn work too Smith.

Gunner, which DW did you order? I recently picked up a stainless V-bob .45 ACP from here on the 'Fire. I'm really impressed with it. Granted it's my first 1911 so not much experience to go on. Figured I'd get the DW and jump to the front of the '1911 snob' line.

If Sig will make a non-railed version in a Commander Nightmare carry I will be all over it and think they will sell a boatload of them

LOL, I got a Razorback, wanted to get in on the low end and finish to suit myself, that said, 'Smith Bud installed a stainless magwell for me today, blackened the magwell with some solution, re-installed the grips, removed them, locked em in a jig then with some sort of wood mill relieved the grips for the magwell.

Treated the inside of the grips with some wood protectant sealant, re-installed the grips and I was out the door, 15 minutes tops, damn those guys have all the cool toys.