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Heckler & Koch is building a US factory in Georgia, a welcome surprise for US gun buyers. The German arms manufacturer is building a 23 million dollar facility in Columbus, Georgia to built pistols, sport, and hunting guns. At this time we are unaware of exactly what lines are to be produced in the new stateside facility, I assume that it will be models that were previously affected by import restrictions.
So does this mean that HK no longer hates you and we don’t suck anymore? We won’t really know how this will affect the lines offered to US citizens until they tool up and get product rolling out the door. Heckler & Koch couldn’t continue to ignore the market here in the US as a result of the United States being home to the largest civilian arms market in the world.
HK stated that nearly 40 percent of the guns produced in 2016 were not only bound for US shores but were purchased by civilian shooters.
This is a huge step for a company that previously ignored the civilian market largely and resisted the idea of introducing popular designs thanks to strange and hard to understand import laws. Heckler & Koch did want to clarify that the Georgia plant will not be producing and weapons for the US military and is only producing civilian focused firearms in the new facility.
I imagine it will take some time to get the plant built and spin up production, I will be interesting to see what product lines HK designates for civilian buyers. Could this mean we will get a US legal MP7 for the civilian market? Maybe expanded SP5 choices? Only time will tell.

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Please bring back an affordable HK 91 and i will perform oral sex on Hillary....


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Originally Posted by krupp
Please bring back an affordable HK 91 and i will perform oral sex on Hillary....

Yeah, I'd like an old style 91, too, but it would be nice if they added some way to attach rails to them for sighting systems, lights, etc. Same with the MP5.


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Originally Posted by krupp
Please bring back an affordable HK 91 and i will perform oral sex on Hillary....


you going to throw Bill in there too for your 91?


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Originally Posted by krupp
Please bring back an affordable HK 91 and i will perform oral sex on Hillary....


Let's not get carried away ... you can always get a PTR 91.

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I find it interesting that foreign manufacturers have turned to the former texile belt to invest $billions, and continue to do so, while US manufacturing has left the South. Reason? Largely Unions prevent the US companies from investing in the South, while foriegn manufacturing sees affordable American labor readily available, reasonable land prices, and attractive tax structure.

BMW is in Greenville SC, Mercedes in B'ham and are now moving corporate to Atlanta. Porsche has a huge US headquarters at the old Ford site in Atlanta. Kia has build a monster assembly plant in LaGrange, Georgia. Hyundai has the same in Montgomerie, AL. The Ports of Savannah and Brunswick GA have been expanded and improved. JAX is another major port.


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Please bring back an affordable HK 91 and i will perform oral sex on Hillary....

Yeah, I'd like an old style 91, too, but it would be nice if they added some way to attach rails to them for sighting systems, lights, etc. Same with the MP5.


Take a look here:


https://www.hkparts.net/shop/pc/viewcategories.asp?idcategory=118

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Would love to see the reintroduction of the SL 7.


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Originally Posted by krupp
Please bring back an affordable HK 91 and i will perform oral sex on Hillary....



Are you sure about that???


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Originally Posted by bea175
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Please bring back an affordable HK 91 and i will perform oral sex on Hillary....


you going to throw Bill in there too for your 91?



Not that desperate.


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That's good

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That's great news, hopefully bring the price point down also.

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Originally Posted by krupp
Please bring back an affordable HK 91 and i will perform oral sex on Hillary....


Ya know man, we appreciate you being willing to take one for the team but some things just go too far.


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You would need to push Huma out of the way to perform that odious task.

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You would need to push Huma out of the way to perform that odious task.

Do I see the possibilities of a threesome here? Even the Russian hackers would be reluctant to post that video!

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What does/will H&K produce that will actually be desirable? They are behind the curve at this point.

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What does/will H&K produce that will actually be desirable? They are behind the curve at this point.


What/who's curve are you referring to ?, what mfg. has passed them up as a premier product ?

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PTR already makes the 91.

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Please bring back an affordable HK 91 and i will perform oral sex on Hillary....


I wouldn't do that if you gave me the new HK factory.


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How would you guys rate the HK compared to a similar Glock or M&P?


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HK's problem is not their product or their pricing, it's customer service. It's not that their customer service is bad, it is that it is non existent. They are supported by subsidies in Germany and apparently don't give a rat's rear about providing any sort of support here in the US. I've been involved in the law enforcement firearms industry for years and know of dozens of agencies that switched from HK to Glock or S&W because both of those companies provide support.

HK will need to establish a reliable distribution network and customer service department if they want to expand their US market.

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Originally Posted by OutlawPatriot
How would you guys rate the HK compared to a similar Glock or M&P?




Which model...... P7.... USP....,VP9,,,,,, P30..... ,P2000 ???

I luv my USP and have never had a problem with it but it is big handgun and expensive. Personally I think it boils down to nothing more than a cult following.


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Originally Posted by hatari
I find it interesting that foreign manufacturers have turned to the former texile belt to invest $billions, and continue to do so, while US manufacturing has left the South. Reason? Largely Unions prevent the US companies from investing in the South, while foriegn manufacturing sees affordable American labor readily available, reasonable land prices, and attractive tax structure.

BMW is in Greenville SC, Mercedes in B'ham and are now moving corporate to Atlanta. Porsche has a huge US headquarters at the old Ford site in Atlanta. Kia has build a monster assembly plant in LaGrange, Georgia. Hyundai has the same in Montgomerie, AL. The Ports of Savannah and Brunswick GA have been expanded and improved. JAX is another major port.



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Originally Posted by krupp
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How would you guys rate the HK compared to a similar Glock or M&P?




Which model...... P7.... USP....,VP9,,,,,, P30..... ,P2000 ???

I luv my USP and have never had a problem with it but it is big handgun and expensive. Personally I think it boils down to nothing more than a cult following.


I have a P2000 that I absolutely love. I've never been a fan of striker fired pistols so obviously I like it a lot better than a Glock or M&P, it also feels much more solid.

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Please do NOT post plx. eek


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Lighter P7ish pistol that doesn't cook your hand. If possible.

Won't hold my breath since everyone prefers making a Glock.

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Please bring back an affordable HK 91 and i will perform oral sex on Hillary....



Please do NOT post plx. eek


No reason to panic...he just miss-spelt 'aural'.


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They should be tooling up for US military orders. They just bagged the M27 contract with the Marines (can't believe that didn't have a stipulation that they be made in the US), and the Army gave them the contract for the M??? (whatever they're calling it); replacement for the M110 which is the H&K 417 in sniper configuration with suppressors and lots of other junk to go with it. Now the Army is looking quite seriously at the M27...so the future is VERY bright for H&K in the USA.

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Please bring back an affordable HK 91 and i will perform oral sex on Hillary....



Anytime sweetheart!

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Originally Posted by GunGeek
They should be tooling up for US military orders. They just bagged the M27 contract with the Marines (can't believe that didn't have a stipulation that they be made in the US), and the Army gave them the contract for the M??? (whatever they're calling it); replacement for the M110 which is the H&K 417 in sniper configuration with suppressors and lots of other junk to go with it. Now the Army is looking quite seriously at the M27...so the future is VERY bright for H&K in the USA.


Maybe. M240's are still in big command.


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Gee, I wonder why they aren't building it in Massatwosetts or New York?:-)


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Originally Posted by krupp
Please bring back an affordable HK 91 and i will perform oral sex on Hillary....


naw, not even for a hk 91, which i know where there is one that could be bought, reasonable might be in a little doubt.


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trust me friends, Georgia is one urbanized state, looking for investment income, and jobs for it's hi-tech trained, willing workers.

Georgia is not an agricultural state any longer, although there is a bit of agriculture still going on. "people still have to eat."

glock runs a factory in the exurbs of hot-lanta. wonder why?

numerous satellite gun & ammo factories.

people need & want jobs.


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Gee, I wonder why they aren't building it in Massatwosetts or New York?:-)



We have quite the firearms industry here. Glock, Daniel Defense, Tapco, Honor Defense, Advanced Armament, Bergara, and now HK. Probably others I've forgotten.

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Unions, really. I used to listen to the brainwashed unionistas and be amazed at the zealot based stupidity. Now it is the anti union folk. The unions are not going to try to keep manufacturers out, they represent a desperately need potential membership. Of course, as long as these new manufacturers keep paying decent wages, and respecting the workers and safety, the unions won't have a chance. The employers will, of course, take care of the employees. To keep the unions out. But, of course, those employees will hate unions, after all "they weren't needed here".

Yes I am a union member, luke warm about it. I do have one of the highest paid factory jobs in our county, and the plant owner has often made it clear that if there were no union, we would make much less.


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Doesn't hurt that Columbus is Ft Benning the Army Infantry training post.

I think they already have a plant there this is 2nd one.


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Originally Posted by bea175
Heckler & Koch couldn’t continue to ignore the market here in the US as a result of the United States being home to the largest civilian arms
market in the world.


They ignored the US market in part because of worries to possibility of changes to more restrictive US gun laws
but they also had very lucrative weapon sales to the middle east region which sustained the Co. very well - before
the German gov. clamped down on exports to M.E.

Im sure they wound rather be selling container loads of contract military assault rifles and accessories to oil rich Arab
states rather than self defence pistols and a HK cap to suburban westerners.


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Im sure they wound rather be selling container loads of contract military assault rifles and accessories to oil rich Arab
states rather than self defence pistols and a HK cap to suburban westerners.
H&K’s “NATO only” policy will be interesting to watch. For now, they have little to fear. The US is buying H&K 416/417 series rifles at a rapid rate. Marines are taking delivery of their M27. France will begin taking delivery of their new service rifle this year (H&K 416) and in 2019 Germany goes out to bid for a replacement for the G36, and I think most expect the Germans will adopt the new G433 from H&K. So the next 5-7 years are looking good for H&K. I imagine the reason H&K is building the US factory is so they don’t screw over the US shooting public yet again due to large military orders. They very deservedly garnered a horrendous reputation for hating on their civilian customers by cutting off all support for civilian customers when they were working to fulfill their military orders. So I’m thinking the US factory will feed the civilian market so H&K Germany can go about their business as usual.

Beyond the next 5-7 years, I wonder about the “NATO only” policy though. Most of NATO is basically bankrupt where their militaries are concerned. Even while buying new rifles, France & Germany (and the UK) are downsizing their militaries even more. And the rest of NATO sure isn’t spending money on military equipment during these interesting times…everyone is quite content to just let the US shoulder all the responsibility.

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They have military contracts to fill.

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Originally Posted by krupp
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How would you guys rate the HK compared to a similar Glock or M&P?




Which model...... P7.... USP....,VP9,,,,,, P30..... ,P2000 ???

I luv my USP and have never had a problem with it but it is big handgun and expensive. Personally I think it boils down to nothing more than a cult following.


For me it is fit.

The grip angle of the HK handguns suits me much better than Glocks.

Love my USP and compacts. Especially love my P7s. A bit heavy but tremendous weapons.


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Originally Posted by krupp
Originally Posted by OutlawPatriot
How would you guys rate the HK compared to a similar Glock or M&P?




Which model...... P7.... USP....,VP9,,,,,, P30..... ,P2000 ???

I luv my USP and have never had a problem with it but it is big handgun and expensive. Personally I think it boils down to nothing more than a cult following.


For me it is fit.

The grip angle of the HK handguns suits me much better than Glocks.

Love my USP and compacts. Especially love my P7s. A bit heavy but tremendous weapons.


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Their 22mag semi auto (990?) as well as the 660, 770, 880 would be welcome.


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