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Interesting thing about AA#9 using more powder, I did measure my 8.4 gr load of Longshot and noticed with the long 200 gr Noslers seated to 1.260" provides plenty good enough powder compression to prevent any bullet set back in the case, something I do for ALL SD rounds, whether semi auto handgun or rifle.
Point of clarification - AA9 doesn't necessarily use more powder by volume, but it is very dense, and uses more powder by weight. In the 180-220gr range, it's just about the perfect burn rate vs volume for 10mm, as it'll reach max pressure with a full charge but is hard to get enough powder in the case to go too far over pressure. Granted there's always "that guy", but if you aren't compressing it like crazy, that's how it's always worked out for me. Less powder weight with Longshot for the same loads is a good thing though, both for economy and a little less recoil since the powder mass contributes more to recoil than the bullet mass. Looking back at my load data, I'm using 13.4gr of AA9 for a very similar load to your 8.4gr of Longshot. My load might be a tad hotter but probably not by much, but it definitely puts out more blast and a little more recoil without a brake. I use a brake on that 6.5" barrel, so AA9 makes sense there; I think the Longshot load is better in my non-braked barrel. Just for fun, here are expansion test (wet newsprint) results with the 200gr Mihec bullet and shallow hollow point with the above AA9 load. The two larger mushrooms in the middle are the 6.5" longslide, and the one less mushroomed on the left is the stock G20 barrel. Penetration from both was very impressive; the faster load just made a bigger hole. Those would have to leave a mark, and all with no leading to boot, thanks for the pics and info about firing pin protrusion too.
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Just to clarify... though plenty of people seem to be getting away with it, I don't recommend shooting 40 in your 10mm Glock w/o a .40 caliber conversion barrel installed, 10-4 Sarge, no 40's will be fired in my 1911 10mm.
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Yondering, Yes, 5" barrel, 1325 with 200's is smoking, sounds like a very serious load with the 6.5" barrel, I thought about some 200/220 hardcasts for later on.
The forum won't let me edit my post above, but I shot some of those loads over the chrono again this weekend and realized I misremembered; they actually do an honest 1350 fps avg from the 6.5" longslide. Velocity from the standard barrel length is very similar to your load though. If you're going with hard cast, I really recommend sticking with 200gr, the heavier 220 gr bullets just take up too much capacity in the 10mm and restrict it down to little more than a small bore +P .45 Auto. You'll get all the penetration you might want from a 200 anyway, and the extra velocity is a good thing. That 200gr Mihec mold I pictured above is about the best design you can get, if you can find one; you get the option of a solid WFN, or shallow or deep hollow points, to tailor the bullet for your needs. Roger on the 200's if I decide to play with hard cast flat noses, my load lands dead on top of the front sight, now I need to order a trijicon sight set the same height as the factory DW sights, let my 'Smith checker the front strap and she'll be done and ready, I really love this pistol. it's sitting right here as I type this, 11 rounds ready to rip.
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Right on. I believe Dawson will have the tritium sights you need, if you're not set on the Trijicon brand. I've been impressed with Dawson's sights.
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I do love my Sig 1911 but this is the perfect 10. It is a Ruger GP100 converted to 10mm by David Clements. It uses Ranch Products Moon Clips for the S&W 646. 10mm or .40 work well
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They're cool, but about a million dollars. lol A couple of months ago I gave $950 for this M610 no dash and 1800 rounds of ammo.
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I do love my Sig 1911 but this is the perfect 10. It is a Ruger GP100 converted to 10mm by David Clements. It uses Ranch Products Moon Clips for the S&W 646. 10mm or .40 work well Clements does great work! He's built 3 Rugers for me and the next one will be the GP-100 10mm conversion like yours.
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A couple of months ago I gave $950 for this M610 no dash and 1800 rounds of ammo. In most states, that would be a felony.
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Right on. I believe Dawson will have the tritium sights you need, if you're not set on the Trijicon brand. I've been impressed with Dawson's sights. Yup, I've scoped their site out, will look at both types, Thanks!
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I'm not sure it's perfect, by that ria saved my bacon last week.
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Yep, nobody can argue that. And thanks for the pics and story.
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They're cool, but about a million dollars. lol A couple of months ago I gave $950 for this M610 no dash and 1800 rounds of ammo. I remember that Ed, quite a nice score there.
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I'm not sure it's perfect, by that ria saved my bacon last week. The understatement of the thread, for sure!
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They're cool, but about a million dollars. lol A couple of months ago I gave $950 for this M610 no dash and 1800 rounds of ammo. Thief........
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LOL, this makes no sense to me, it would be akin to me going out to the shop and yanking four of the twelve or three of the ten plug wires off my V-12 MB or Dodge Viper and driving them to town, why? I thought the same thing when I read Sarges first post on the matter.
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They're cool, but about a million dollars. lol A couple of months ago I gave $950 for this M610 no dash and 1800 rounds of ammo. Thief........ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^THIS ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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A 610 4" would be sweet, but so would a 41 Special in that platform, or a 657.
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