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C'mon Jeff,

Weak spamming the site with elementary Persuasive/selling Techniques 101?

That only works if the seller has credibility and the buyer doesn't have any exposure to them.

Move your tent down the road and take that toadie Stargazer you picked up at DU, with you.

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Biden didn't win the election.
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The fake news media has created an insane asylum for snowflakes and you have checked yourself in.

Curdog has given you some good, truthful advice to help you, not him. Yet, you continue to believe in your dream. Just remember, sometimes the insane believe they can fly.

You are showing signs that you are delusional with regard to reality and your supposed infallibility, if not your belief that you can predict the future or even cause it to come to pass through the power of your mind.

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It seems to me:
1) If a member said something that can be proven, then post the comment for all to see...or don't call him out that he's a lying POS.
2) If you can't prove he said it, by quoting the actual post...then digress that you may be wrong, you might be mistaken and own up to your statements....even tho you still may feel he's an azzhole and don't like him.
3) Drop all the name calling, mob mentality, piling on horsechit...it's a waste of band width.
4) We all have different opinions on many subjects, just because you don't agree with someone doesn't justify beating them into submission with insults and names...make your point and move on.

The Fire exists because of a variety of interests and opinions, no matter the subject whether guns or politics...if we all had identical feelings and outlooks, the world would be boring as hell.

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OK new guy. You got me.


Originally Posted by Bristoe
It's about like this:

"Do you puff peters?"

"Hell no!"

"NAZI!!!"


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Just a couple of minutes of searching, more lies from the doper. Relates to his "PTSD" not to mention yet another glaring lie:

Originally Posted by Jeff_O
Originally Posted by okie
It would be nice to know that Jeffy was no longer the socialist he proved himself to be before and that maybe his children are smarter than he was...


I will do this ONE TIME so listen up <g>. I do not argue politics anymore. I do not FOLLOW politics anymore. I sucked at it anyway <g>. I'm done with that [bleep].

I did not vote for Obama in 2012. I voted for the party who's platform most closely aligns with my personal bitches' brew of politics, which is Libertarian. I will be following that path for the foreseeable future. I cannot abide either the Democratic or Republucan party platforms.




DocRocket, I'd say I got 90-something percent of the way back. It was a doozy. From there, it's about compensation and adaption and MOVING FORWARDS. If you have a patient so stricken, I found highly aerobic exercise to be a huge benefit in alleviating the anxiety, depression, and PTSD symptoms.

Thanks for well wishes from those who sent them. I'm not hanging around for the beat down. Enjoy---

And the link: Pathological


A good principle to guide me through life: “This is all I have come to expect, standard lackluster performance. Trust nothing, believe no one and realize it will only get worse…”
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Originally Posted by Jeff_O
Originally Posted by curdog4570
Jeff, in your early years on this forum you provided the rest of us with a lot of humor due to your naivety regarding all things concerning shooting, hunting, and other outdoor pursuits. When you exposed your ignorance on those matters with some stupid post, you took the ribbing in a good natured way. Some of us even stuck up for you when the insults directed at you were excessive and personal.

You have grown, but in the wrong direction.

None of your posts nowadays show any original thinking, they are just Chris Matthews regurgitated talking points.

You deserve the verbal abuse being heaped on you and continuing to post on this forum just reveals that there is something bad wrong with you.

Really.


Curdog, I remember from then, and I've noted again recently, that you are a stalwart for civil discourse. Good on ye.

To your point, we are ALL regurgitating here. None of us actually know [bleep] other than what our choice of media is telling us and how we choose to connect the dots in front of us. I believe the majority here are connecting them wrong, mostly because their palette of dots is limited due to them pre-filtering what they are willing to read. So, we all are casting the tea leaves or spilling the cat entrails and making a call as to our interpretation. That's what I'm doing. That's ALL I'm doing. However I'm doing it with persistence, which is being mischaracterized as arrongance, and so I'm getting the standard Campfire toolkit thrown at me. The only thing missing is a certain somebody trying to set me off by insulting my wife. It doesn't matter. I have very thick skin these days or I wouldn't be here.

So, I'm expressing my opinion here, and I'm trying to keep it mostly contained to this thread so that folks can choose to read it, or not. If you choose to read it, that's your call. If it hurts your head, don't read it. I'm not going to stop saying it. Why? Two reasons. First, I think I'm correct. I think Trump and/or campaign associates did collude with Russia to attempt to affect the election. And second, because this is something that people here need to hear! Echo chambers are a harsh mistress when it turns out they are wrong, and many here are stuck in one. I'm trying to HELP. I really am.

If it turns out I'm wrong, I'll own that. Same way I owned it a few days ago when I crossed my own personal line about name-calling (it sure wasn't a line that exists here on the Fire!) and publically apologized to Jorge. Maybe I AM wrong and it's you guys reading the tea leaves correctly and ME in an echo chamber! That's a possibility I'm trying to be open to. Can "you" collectively say the same?

I'm off to make some dough. Got a vexing issue with customer-supplied crappy steel that has hard inclusions that are giving my tooling fits. Gotta try some custom grinds on cutters... hopefully.


You're doing nothing of the sort, all you're doing is proving how a lot of the members on this site were right about you. I've read a good number of your posts in this thread, you're nothing more than an arrogant pos who's only mission here is to irritate the members on this site.

And while we're at it, please tell us what laws Trump broke, specifically, because according to Alan Dershowitz, a Democrat that voted for Hilary and a Harvard Law Professor Emeritus, says that no laws were broken and the appointment of a special counsel not needed.

http://insider.foxnews.com/2017/05/...sia-special-counsel-says-theres-no-crime


That's ok, I'll ass shoot a dink.

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Originally Posted by bigfish9684
OK new guy. You got me.


Fish, it wasn't intended that way...or pointed at you. Just a general observation of a worthy thread, that's been hijacked far from it's original subject.

But far be it from me to jump in the middle of a dog fight, without a ballbat or pistol...I've got enough chit on my plate without getting mauled by the pack.

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Originally Posted by bigfish9684
OK new guy. You got me.


That's funny[new guy].


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We're all new guys at some point, it's only common sense we start from null.

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So Jeff, if your PTSD resulted from an accident, what kind of accident was it?


Originally Posted by Bristoe
It's about like this:

"Do you puff peters?"

"Hell no!"

"NAZI!!!"


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Originally Posted by Jeff_O


Total fabricated bullshit. You are, quite simply, making that up about the ladder. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt that you are simply a confused idiot, rather than intentionally maliciously lying, for the moment, while you go search your little patootie off looking for that post, because here's the truth: it does not exist. Period. End of story. I've never fallen off a ladder, and my head injury happened in a car wreck, and I've NEVER said otherwise.


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Originally Posted by bigfish9684
So Jeff, if your PTSD resulted from an accident, what kind of accident was it?

Birth.


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It would be ever so enlightening for the pack here to outline the acceptable way someone could argue that Trump and his administration is, shall we say, undesirable. You don't like Jeff's approach which is far more civil and rational than your own. Ya'll claim to being open minded, logical, rational, American, etc,. etc., but your behaviors doesn't demonstrate it on any of those counts.

So, how is it supposed to be done? Obviously, you have all condemned anything and everything that ya'll used to go after O and H from 2008-16, so those approaches are out. Jeff's approach is out. What's left? Fill us in on how someone should be able to have an independent, nonPC opinion on this website without become reviled and denigrated in the way ya'll have gone after Jeff et al.

Me thinks there isn't away. No tolerance for an opposing point of view. The code of behavior here seems to be follow the pack or prepare to be attacked by the mob. Let's here of some other options.

Meanwhile, one guy, on his own has pretty much generated almost 500 posts and over 11k views on just one thread. What would Rick do w/o Jeff?

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Ok. Trump is undesirable, to many. Fact is, he was legally elected. Of course, facts and legalities are of no real consequence to jerkoffs like you two.

Now, piss and moan on.


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Originally Posted by jaguartx
Ok. Trump is undesirable, to many. Fact is, he was legally elected. Of course, facts and legalities are of no real consequence to jerkoffs like you two.

Now, piss and moan on.


Obama was legally elected. Clinton was legally elected. Made no difference to jerkoffs like the pack here. Please, try for some semblance of rational thought. Linear logic is always simplest. Work on it, jag.

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Originally Posted by Bwana_1
Originally Posted by Jeff_O


Total fabricated bullshit. You are, quite simply, making that up about the ladder. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt that you are simply a confused idiot, rather than intentionally maliciously lying, for the moment, while you go search your little patootie off looking for that post, because here's the truth: it does not exist. Period. End of story. I've never fallen off a ladder, and my head injury happened in a car wreck, and I've NEVER said otherwise.





And I believe that literally as much as the rest of the BS he posts here. Which is to say not at all.


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"Hell no!"

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Originally Posted by LeroyBeans
It would be ever so enlightening for the pack here to outline the acceptable way someone could argue that Trump and his administration is, shall we say, undesirable. You don't like Jeff's approach which is far more civil and rational than your own. Ya'll claim to being open minded, logical, rational, American, etc,. etc., but your behaviors doesn't demonstrate it on any of those counts.

So, how is it supposed to be done? Obviously, you have all condemned anything and everything that ya'll used to go after O and H from 2008-16, so those approaches are out. Jeff's approach is out. What's left? Fill us in on how someone should be able to have an independent, nonPC opinion on this website without become reviled and denigrated in the way ya'll have gone after Jeff et al.

Me thinks there isn't away. No tolerance for an opposing point of view. The code of behavior here seems to be follow the pack or prepare to be attacked by the mob. Let's here of some other options.

Meanwhile, one guy, on his own has pretty much generated almost 500 posts and over 11k views on just one thread. What would Rick do w/o Jeff?



Tolerance, where's the tolerance for President Trump from you leftist?? It does not exist.


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Originally Posted by AkMtnHntr
Originally Posted by LeroyBeans
It would be ever so enlightening for the pack here to outline the acceptable way someone could argue that Trump and his administration is, shall we say, undesirable. You don't like Jeff's approach which is far more civil and rational than your own. Ya'll claim to being open minded, logical, rational, American, etc,. etc., but your behaviors doesn't demonstrate it on any of those counts.

So, how is it supposed to be done? Obviously, you have all condemned anything and everything that ya'll used to go after O and H from 2008-16, so those approaches are out. Jeff's approach is out. What's left? Fill us in on how someone should be able to have an independent, nonPC opinion on this website without become reviled and denigrated in the way ya'll have gone after Jeff et al.

Me thinks there isn't away. No tolerance for an opposing point of view. The code of behavior here seems to be follow the pack or prepare to be attacked by the mob. Let's here of some other options.

Meanwhile, one guy, on his own has pretty much generated almost 500 posts and over 11k views on just one thread. What would Rick do w/o Jeff?



Tolerance, where's the tolerance for President Trump from you leftist?? It does not exist.


Remember, the goal here is to find something that is logical. Which would suggest that Trump supporters might not expect more tolerance than they gave to Obama just last year. Now, show me where the fire was tolerant of Obama and maybe we can get somewhere. You can't ask for behavior that you can't give, that's rule #1.

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I honestly do not GAF what you lefties want. That is pretty much how it was for the eight years prior to Trumps inauguration for anyone that disagreed with the left.
I'm by no means here to be 'civil' towards anyone that backs the destruction of the USA.

Clear enough?


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