Have you considered a very practical reason to get rid of Comey?
Think about this. Trump slides into office and finds that people working in the highest levels of government are all appointed by Obama, and are political partisan hacks leaking info and put in place to 1.) aid Hillary, but she's not on office 2.) are now Partisans acting as saboteurs "behind enemy lines"
Trump realizes that he must clean house. He gets the word from Sessions that Comey is not going to help, and will probably protect those imbedded, and needs to go.
This is all very plausible. For those of you not happy with Trump's progress so far, take this scenario to heart. Obama appointed a lot of little Progressive, Socialist anti-Capitalist bastards throughout the government and to the courts. The can do massive damage and it might be a monumental undertaking to clean that Obama crap up. In doing so, Trump can restock the government with people not bent on the destruction of America as we know. First, get someone at the FBI that will follow the Rule of law and not the Rule of Partisans, second, clean out the moles, leakers, and Progressive operatives still working for Obama, Clinton and Soros and that cause.
Well, yeah..... Zero didn't appoint people to positions of power who wouldn't play with his balls and the DNC's, including Comey. I thought the "advisory" letter, documenting all the former AG, etc opinions of Comey's misbehavior was right on., and nicely flushed the toilet. Heck, Trump doesn't even have to wipe after that one, tho the left will insist he just aborted a baby and flushed it live.
Have you considered a very practical reason to get rid of Comey?
Think about this. Trump slides into office and finds that people working in the highest levels of government are all appointed by Obama, and are political partisan hacks leaking info and put in place to 1.) aid Hillary, but she's not on office 2.) are now Partisans acting as saboteurs "behind enemy lines"
Trump realizes that he must clean house. He gets the word from Sessions that Comey is not going to help, and will probably protect those imbedded, and needs to go.
This is all very plausible. For those of you not happy with Trump's progress so far, take this scenario to heart. Obama appointed a lot of little Progressive, Socialist anti-Capitalist bastards throughout the government and to the courts. The can do massive damage and it might be a monumental undertaking to clean that Obama crap up. In doing so, Trump can restock the government with people not bent on the destruction of America as we know. First, get someone at the FBI that will follow the Rule of law and not the Rule of Partisans, second, clean out the moles, leakers, and Progressive operatives still working for Obama, Clinton and Soros and that cause.
No question that the AIC infused the entire gov't with a-holes... Trump's got a yuge job ahead to get rid of as many of those moles as possible..
Or maybe the real reasons forTrump firing Comey were precisely the ones articulated in the president's letter. Namely, that Comey usurped prosecutorial discretion with his silly press conferences. Why do you folks conclude that his decision had to be duplicitous?
No doubt president Trump had many reasons to fire Comey, but why do you assume the main one was not exactly the one outlined in the president's letter?
Or maybe the real reasons forTrump firing Comey were precisely the ones articulated in the president's letter. Namely, that Comey usurped prosecutorial discretion with his silly press conferences. Why do you folks conclude that his decision had to be duplicitous?
Comey was fired for just reasons.
When Comey came out publicly on all that Hillary investigation, I loved it! But, I know enough about how things work to know that it was VERY strange when he did, and how he did it. Beyond all reason.
Then, when Comey stood in front of national TV and told everyone Hillary didn't have enough "intent" to be prosecuted, after just a few minutes before outlining all her criminal activities, he threw mud in the face of the entire criminal justice system in our country.
He was fired for just grounds.
But, beyond that, through the past few years, the FBI had been used as a weapon against the American public. Along with MANY other departments in the Obama administration.
There's still lots of swamp that needs to be drained. The Obama administration is the most corrupt in American history. We don't even know a drop in the bucket.
Have you considered a very practical reason to get rid of Comey?
Think about this. Trump slides into office and finds that people working in the highest levels of government are all appointed by Obama, and are political partisan hacks leaking info and put in place to 1.) aid Hillary, but she's not on office 2.) are now Partisans acting as saboteurs "behind enemy lines"
Trump realizes that he must clean house. He gets the word from Sessions that Comey is not going to help, and will probably protect those imbedded, and needs to go.
This is all very plausible. For those of you not happy with Trump's progress so far, take this scenario to heart. Obama appointed a lot of little Progressive, Socialist anti-Capitalist bastards throughout the government and to the courts. The can do massive damage and it might be a monumental undertaking to clean that Obama crap up. In doing so, Trump can restock the government with people not bent on the destruction of America as we know. First, get someone at the FBI that will follow the Rule of law and not the Rule of Partisans, second, clean out the moles, leakers, and Progressive operatives still working for Obama, Clinton and Soros and that cause.
No offense but ftw? I mean, why else? Comey ain't incompetent. These turds like Comey, Emmanual and Lynch, et al are traitors of the worst sort. Probably hired by Soros.
No doubt president Trump had many reasons to fire Comey, but why do you assume the main one was not exactly the one outlined in the president's letter?
Those were the reasons listed. The real reasons are that Comey was a Globalist traitor to the USA. Truly an enemy of the people. If Hillary doesn't have him killed, look for him to go to work for her.
Nerws week (not that it has be relevent for 2 decades) is already spinning it.
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Just hours after the FBI sent a letter Tuesday to the Senate Judiciary Committee clarifying his testimony in relation to the Hillary Clinton email scandal, FBI Director James Comey was fired.
"Today, President Donald J. Trump informed FBI Director James Comey that he has been terminated and removed from office," White House Press Secretary Sean Spicer said in a statement. "President Trump acted based on the clear recommendations of both Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein and Attorney General Jeff Sessions."
Trump's letter terminating Comey quickly leaked online.
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"While I greatly appreciate you informing me, on three separate occasions, that I am not under investigation, I nevertheless concur with the judgment of the Department of Justice that you are not able to effectively lead the bureau," Trump wrote. "It is essential that we find new leadership for the FBI that restores public trust and confidence in its vital law enforcement mission."
Here are a few reasons, both stated and possible, Comey may have been canned:
He hurt the FBI's reputation
A memorandum prepared by Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein recommending Comey's termination kicks off with the fact that "over the past year ... the FBI's reputation and credibility have suffered substantial damage, and it has affected the entire Department of Justice."
He mishandled the Clinton email investigation
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Rosenstein writes that Comey should not have given a news conference last July recommending that Clinton, who used a private email server while secretary of state, not face criminal charges. The deputy attorney general writes that Comey should have turned his findings over to federal prosecutors. He also takes issue with Comey's decision to send a letter just days before the November election revealing newly discovered Clinton emails. "When federal agents and prosecutors quietly open a criminal investigation, we are not concealing anything; we are simply following the longstanding policy that we refrain from publicizing non-public information," the letter states.
He broke with tradition
Rosenstein cites several attorneys general and other authorities who decried Comey's actions as a "departure from the department's widely respected, nonpartisan traditions." Rosenstein writes that "we should reject the departure and return to the traditions."
Trump doesn't like him
Simply judging from his tweets, the president and Comey have had a rocky relationship. As Axios laid out, Trump first criticized the director online in July after that fateful, aforementioned news conference. Trump used the hashtag #RiggedSystem. By October, when he was bringing attention to a new cache of Clinton emails, Trump loved him—but in November, when Comey said he hadn't actually found material that justified charges, the pendulum had swung again.
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"You can't review 650,000 new emails in eight days. You can't do it, folks," Trump said at a rally. "Hillary Clinton is guilty. She knows it, the FBI knows it, the people know it."
Trump is embarrassed by him
The president recently accused his predecessor, Barack Obama, of wiretapping his phones during the campaign. Comey has shut down this allegation, explaining that Obama could not order a wiretap of anyone's phone unchecked.
"I have no information that supports those tweets, and we have looked carefully inside the FBI," Comey said in March. "The Department of Justice has asked me to share with you that the answer is the same for the Department of Justice and all its components. The department has no information that supports those tweets."
He knows something about Russia
Of course, the elephant in the room is the ongoing investigation into whether people associated with Trump's campaign had contact with Russia during the election. Comey confirmed the probe in March.
"We approach this work in an open-minded, independent way and our expert investigators will conclude that work as quickly as they can, but they will always do it well no matter how long that takes," he said, according to a transcript of his remarks. "I can promise you, we will follow the facts wherever they lead."
Clinton's running mate, Tim Kaine, picked up on this after news of Comey's firing Tuesday, tweeting, "Trump firing Comey shows how frightened the Admin is over Russia investigation."
Its simple. Comey sealed his fate after his July 5 news conference. He became the chief investigator and chief prosecutor. That is a usurpation of power and a blurring of the judiciary lines of responsibility. The Dems and media will spin it into a Trump/Russian cover-up. They will demand a special prosecutor. They are morons, but we have known this for quite some time.
Purely conjecture on my part, but only a few people knew about this (less than five or six) and they surely included the AG/AAG, and of course the C U N T Rice. But the way she answered sure as hell gave me pause. Clapper as well and we all know he has a record of lying. Operative words for her and Clapper when asked "not knowingly"...
Trumpkins overlook the fact that there is a real good chance that Hillary would be President if Comey hadn't announced a re-opening of the investigation into her emails. Based on that, it's hard to claim he tanked for her.
He had to consider that he was killing his political career with his bizarre news conference back in July when he indicted her in the court of public opinion and let her walk legally.
Maybe he was dancing to Ol Bills tune all along? Shielding him and Lynch at Hillary's expense?
Anybody think Bill relished the role of "First Dude"?
Its simple. Comey sealed his fate after his July 5 news conference. He became the chief investigator and chief prosecutor. That is a usurpation of power and a blurring of the judiciary lines of responsibility.
The was simply the justification, the real reasons were many.
I'm quite frankly shocked at the amount of resistance to Trump's "swamp draining" that's coming from all corners. I guess we should have expected it, but it's still eye opening to see how much resistance is coming from the mainstream media, congress (especially the RINOs), and the deeply embedded leftists in the bureaucracy that was inherited from Obama. Trump seems to be doing it methodically, picking it apart one brick at a time. Most of us want him to just start canning every leftist in that sewer, but in reality I'm sure it's not that easy and it takes time to do it right. Trump's making progress, but it's going to take a while to sort out the deep cancer that has infected our government.
I have an unconfirmed rumor --------- but I think it's probably true.
I am good friends with a 2 "high level government employees". Both told me that the President wanted to set things up to confront Comey, but Comey made it a point to be "too busy" and flew to LA to give his speech. There is a possibility (or maybe a probability) he had some behind the seens meetings to attend too, one of which may have been with a courier for Obama. The speech is the cover story for the real reason the trip was important to him. The speech and the meeting are confirmed but the focus of the meeting is not and was kept secret. Both of my friends tell me that they can only speculate as to the content of those meetings and why is was so important to Comey, but the process of elimination slims it down to only a few reasons, none of which were likely to be legit or they would have been public, and on the itinerary. My friends details are 2nd hand too, but close to the top in their sources. Hence my belief that their story is probably accurate.
Anyway, Comey was not going to cooperate with Trump's re-write of his schedule, and made it a point to "fly the finger" and "make him wait".
So President Trump did what I believe I would have done. Probably what any good manager would do. He fired him anyway, and let the press tell him.
So the idea that he should have done it face to face may or may not have some merit, but Comey forced the issue (again) and this time Trump just threw the switch anyway.
By October, when he was bringing attention to a new cache of Clinton emails, Trump loved him—but in November, when Comey said he hadn't actually found material that justified charges, the pendulum had swung again.
Because Comey has always been a game player, trying to play both sides.
Swamp-draining is fine by me but this wasn't that. In a bizarre way, Comey had credibility across the aisle. This was an ego- and emotion-based decision and, IMHO, a big mistake.
When was the last time we had a POTUS turtle up, fume for days, then fire the man investigating him? How'd that turn out?
My belief has been that there's a lot of "there" there in the Russian collusion mess. Might not reach Trump- might be confined to Page, Stone, Manafort, Flynn, or some combo, but I think it happened. I think law enforcement has been doing what they do: methodically building the case. I think this brings all that to a head. Guess we'll see. I kinda hope I'm wrong but I doubt it.
Trump don't need a high profile guy with name recognition. Gowdy talks a good game and maybe he would actually DO something as Director, but I doubt it.
Maybe a State Atty General with a track record?
Trump don't want anyone competing for attention.......ask Bannon.
Whoever he appoints will likely not last out Trumps term.
Swamp-draining is fine by me but this wasn't that. In a bizarre way, Comey had credibility across the aisle. This was an ego- and emotion-based decision and, IMHO, a big mistake.
When was the last time we had a POTUS turtle up, fume for days, then fire the man investigating him? How'd that turn out?
My belief has been that there's a lot of "there" there in the Russian collusion mess. Might not reach Trump- might be confined to Page, Stone, Manafort, Flynn, or some combo, but I think it happened. I think law enforcement has been doing what they do: methodically building the case. I think this brings all that to a head. Guess we'll see. I kinda hope I'm wrong but I doubt it.
Will you PLEASE tell me how this " collusion" could have helped Trump win?
Have you considered a very practical reason to get rid of Comey?
Think about this. Trump slides into office and finds that people working in the highest levels of government are all appointed by Obama, and are political partisan hacks leaking info and put in place to 1.) aid Hillary, but she's not on office 2.) are now Partisans acting as saboteurs "behind enemy lines"
Trump realizes that he must clean house. He gets the word from Sessions that Comey is not going to help, and will probably protect those imbedded, and needs to go.
This is all very plausible. For those of you not happy with Trump's progress so far, take this scenario to heart. Obama appointed a lot of little Progressive, Socialist anti-Capitalist bastards throughout the government and to the courts. The can do massive damage and it might be a monumental undertaking to clean that Obama crap up. In doing so, Trump can restock the government with people not bent on the destruction of America as we know. First, get someone at the FBI that will follow the Rule of law and not the Rule of Partisans, second, clean out the moles, leakers, and Progressive operatives still working for Obama, Clinton and Soros and that cause.
Couldn't agree more.
But Trump has already made his 1st mistake in accomplishing the goal that you've laid out & that is with his interim appointment...........................guy's totally in the tank for Hilary & the progressives & is a butt-buddy of Terry MacAliffe.................he should have been swept out too along with Comey.
Who Trump puts in is very critical at this point & he doesn't need to either play softball or pander to the Dems with his choice..............but time will tell.
In a bizarre way, Comey had credibility across the aisle.
Comey lost ALL credibility by simply not doing his job and sending the criminal charges to Justice Dept. last July which is exactly what a law enforcement officer should do. His statement of "intent" was a slap in the face to me and millions like me as it should have then had the prosecution send those charges to the grand jury which is you and I....we were cut out of the deal...justice was not served but it still can be if your smart enough to see past the smokescreen of "Russian" collusion....I have my doubts about your ability to do that...
Given the swiftness of how it happened, and how Comey was a long ways from his office, I'm thinking Trump and team wanted to make sure Comey couldn't destroy any information. I'm thinking Comey wasn't even allowed back in the building.
Get a new director in, and start cleaning house. We have 8 years of Obama to undo and he left landmines everywhere.
Swamp-draining is fine by me but this wasn't that. In a bizarre way, Comey had credibility across the aisle. This was an ego- and emotion-based decision and, IMHO, a big mistake.
When was the last time we had a POTUS turtle up, fume for days, then fire the man investigating him? How'd that turn out?
My belief has been that there's a lot of "there" there in the Russian collusion mess. Might not reach Trump- might be confined to Page, Stone, Manafort, Flynn, or some combo, but I think it happened. I think law enforcement has been doing what they do: methodically building the case. I think this brings all that to a head. Guess we'll see. I kinda hope I'm wrong but I doubt it.
Oh please, enough with the drama already. Comey does not have credibility across both aisles, both sides wanted him gone at different times in the past year. IF, and that's a big IF, Trump colluded with the Russians, where's the [bleep] proof? He's had at least 3 Obama appointees say there was no collusion with the Russians. Quit talking out of both sides of your mouth.
Swamp-draining is fine by me but this wasn't that. In a bizarre way, Comey had credibility across the aisle. This was an ego- and emotion-based decision and, IMHO, a big mistake.
When was the last time we had a POTUS turtle up, fume for days, then fire the man investigating him? How'd that turn out?
My belief has been that there's a lot of "there" there in the Russian collusion mess. Might not reach Trump- might be confined to Page, Stone, Manafort, Flynn, or some combo, but I think it happened. I think law enforcement has been doing what they do: methodically building the case. I think this brings all that to a head. Guess we'll see. I kinda hope I'm wrong but I doubt it.
Sorry, don't agree. Comey made him shelf a political hack ,and was playing bloth sides. I see nothing wrong with a Preisidnet wanting a clean slate is you have a FBI Directr that is starting to enjoy his limelight. Trump - Russia?
Pffft! More like Putin screwing with the Clintons just to screw with the Clintons.
Trump is catching hell for saying comey told him 3 times he was not under investigation! Is Trump trying to show us just how political comey became? He was currying favor to keep his job!
Trump is catching hell for saying comey told him 3 times he was not under investigation! Is Trump trying to show us just how political comey became? He was currying favor to keep his job!
You can read it that way but I doubt it. I don't think Comey was playing for Trump with the election and don' think he's playing with the Dems over Russia. I do think he's just a bad fit and that there are better people to run the FBI.
Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY) said he's seen no evidence of collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia, accusing Democrats of pushing a "huge myth."
Paul said Democrats will now clamor for a special prosecutor to look into the matter following the firing of FBI Director James Comey.
"I don't think there's been any facts presented that anybody broke the law. ... I don't think there's any evidence that anybody broke the law," he said on "Fox & Friends" today.
Paul said he has not even heard an "accusation" on what crime Democrats believe may have been committed.
"[Democrats] were for getting rid of Comey too, but now they're gonna say it's all about this Russia investigation, which hasn't produced one iota of evidence," said Paul.
He said Comey's firing "could not happen soon enough," calling out Democrats for criticizing the move despite previously declaring they had lost faith in Comey after his handling of the Hillary Clinton email investigation.
A thinking man knows they(Shumer and some Rinos) are deflecting from the real investigation of all the felonies the previous regime committed, There are no if's and's or but's about that. If that were not the case this outcry would not exist.
With regards to JeffZero
I would not expect a Libtard albeit a braindead loser to not stick to the party line. It must be the water in Orygun that is creating this incredibly stupid imbeciles. I would suggest he stick to crayon coloring and taking a course on how to open nosler bullet boxes, proper scope mounting techniques and not engaging in a grownup discussion. The fact he has heavy machinery and firearms in his possession is enough to frighten anyone
No doubt president Trump had many reasons to fire Comey, but why do you assume the main one was not exactly the one outlined in the president's letter?
Because he lies about something every day, perhaps?
This mental midget is incapable of telling the truth. Plus he can't speak a coherent sentence.
Plainsman has it correct. The FBI is an investigative organization, nothing more. They do the investigation, then present the facts to the justice boys for charges. Trump would be well served to appoint someone from inside the FBI to head it. Someone who KNOWS how to investigate, not some outside flunkie. Having been there, no investigator wants to be directed by ANYONE whon isn't an investigator or told how to do their job.
ol comey dude lost it all when he nearly convicted the hillary of multiple crimes back in his news conference in the summer, then spun around on a dime and gave a nickels change to ensure her innocence. innocence i tell you. that right there should have caused his office door to be barred & shuttered, and him frog marched out of the FBI building. never has there been such a time in our country.
No doubt president Trump had many reasons to fire Comey, but why do you assume the main one was not exactly the one outlined in the president's letter?
Because he lies about something every day, perhaps?
This mental midget is incapable of telling the truth. Plus he can't speak a coherent sentence.
Hey RobJordan AKA Jordan Funk AKA MeatGazer,
You kiss and make up with the sheriff yet? Cause I heard you got your poorly paid wannabe DA ass spanked in court (you probably liked it). Rent any inmates from the jail for maidwork around your house lately? Renege on any election bets lately? Your political pontification was so spot on you reneged on your bet with Fubarski and came back here under a couple names instead of holding up your end of the bet. You're a communist just like that schidtbird LostHisway who also reneged on the same bet.
I don't think Comey was playing for Trump with the election and don' think he's x with the Dems over Russia. I do think he's just a bad fit and that there are better people to run the FBI.
That's about exactly how I see it. However, better fit or not, I think this firing will be politically disastrous for Trump for the exact reasons you elucidate. Comey had, through circumstance and action, a level of bipartisan credibility.
The sharp knives are coming out and Mr. Trump has mighty thin skin. Hold onto your hats boys.
My belief has been that there's a lot of "there" there in the Russian collusion mess. Might not reach Trump- might be confined to Page, Stone, Manafort, Flynn, or some combo, but I think it happened. I think law enforcement has been doing what they do: methodically building the case. I think this brings all that to a head. Guess we'll see. I kinda hope I'm wrong but I doubt it.
How exactly do you figure that this would have helped Trump?
Unless election counting was rigged somehow, where is the collusion?
Hat, the stupid SOB said he knew for certain Russia interferred in our election and they just hadnt as of yet found the evidence, indicating to the media that there had been collusion, which gave false hope to gullible suckers like Jell0.
Wow. I have never seen so many different ways of saying it was Obama's fault somehow or another.
It sure couldn't be Trump sending yet another signal by firing the head guy in charge of investigating him and his cronies for treason. Naaaw. It sure couldn't be that.
Comey cut his own throat by testifying he had no plans to investigate the leaks or unveiling of people like Flynn.
Maybe. But you realize- right?- that Flynn was literally a foreign agent when appointed NSA? And that the dumb addled [bleep] actually believed that, say, Clinton was running a child sex ring from a pizza joint?
Plus that, since when does D.C. not leak like a seive from both sides of the aisle? That's a silly thing to get worked up about UNLESS, as you and Trump and many republicans have been doing, it's just to obfuscate the truth by hanging the messenger.
Comey cut his own throat by testifying he had no plans to investigate the leaks or unveiling of people like Flynn.
Maybe. But you realize- right?- that Flynn was literally a foreign agent when appointed NSA? And that the dumb addled [bleep] actually believed that, say, Clinton was running a child sex ring from a pizza joint?
Plus that, since when does D.C. not leak like a seive from both sides of the aisle? That's a silly thing to get worked up about UNLESS, as you and Trump and many republicans have been doing, it's just to obfuscate the truth by hanging the messenger.
You'll see. And I'm gonna rub it in, BITCHES!
Did you ever get or see any of that hard proof of collusion Jeffo?
Comey was fired because he was connecting the dots showing the Trump administration was/is in bed with the Russians. Just watch the next few months.
Sure looks that way to anyone who isn't a Trump toadie.
If there was nothing there Trump would demand an independent investigation to clear his name. He's doing the opposite.
His spokespeople look like they haven't slept in weeks. Most of the time their statements don't even make sense.
The end is near for this clown show.
I'm far from a trump toadie, Rob, but I would like just one time for you and Jeff to articulate a plausible scenario wherein Russia and Trump colliding could have swayed the election.
hillary and her elitist supporters lost the election because of those meanies who didn't like her. they stole the election from hers. it was hers, and it was stolen! geez guys, why be so blind? the bush & clinton consortium agreed that it was her win, and authorized to rule as president. even most of the republican candidates agreed, since they were supporting her in principle if not in outright direct support. well, not Trump, Dr. Paul, and that south Texas Senator.
Russia & the US do nothing illegal in influencing the outcomes of foreign elections. it'd be unethical at the very least.
and they both have lawyers operating at the highest levels of gov't to ensure that no international/globalist laws are broken. it's been that way for ages. they color within the lines. it's a given.
Comey was fired because he was connecting the dots showing the Trump administration was/is in bed with the Russians. Just watch the next few months.
Oh boy, another cock sucking liberal. You live in Oregon?
You afraid somebody is going to come up from Oregon and make you squeal like a pig? Cock-sucking is not limited to liberals. Maybe you may have more to fear from Idaho's wide-stance Republicans (ref. Senator Larry Craig).
Its the only thing you dimocrap dumascrap pukes have. Problem is, even Hillary, the DNC, Schumer and fake news knows its not true. They have nothing and have to have something to keep gullible suckers like you hanging on to your only ray of hope. They need suckers like you to push their agenda.
"The sky is falling. The dims will save you. Send money honey, or youre all gonna die. The ruszians hate hillary. Trump shacks up with rusxian hookers. He will sell you down the river. Rs want to push ur granny off the cliff.....".
And the suckers keep sucking it up.
.gov approached the DNC and RNC to shore up their computer systems before the election. They were allowed to work on the RNC firewalls. Because of the crooked crap going on rd Bernie S the DNC told them to bugger off.
You expect the Ds to say they are stupid as crap for running crooked Hillary or you expect them to blame their loss on the ruskies? The [bleep] are low lifes. They screwed Sanders over. They said you would save $2500 a year. They lie all the time.
You believe them because you want to. As zero said, "just believe".
You fit the definition of insanity. Keep just believing in liars. Youre an embassasment to humanity, Jell0.
Trump did it because of the way he handled the email deal, plain and simple. He tried to play AG instead of doing his job. He knew Lynch wouldn't do anything anyway even if he had. So he put it out there to take the heat off of the Justice Dept. What the hell do you think Loretta and Slick Willy were talking about out on the tarmac that day.
Could this be the beginning of the end of Hillary and Humma????
I try and try to keep out of this for the most part but if Jeff O is not the dumbest SOB on the planet I don't know who can compete with him. Sweet mother of all that is holy the stupid it burns I tell you. I can't believe you have enough brain power in that noggin to continue to breath without assistance. Please just shut your pie hole and quit inflicting the level of stupid on the unsuspecting.
If there really was anything to the Russian angle, the last person in the world Trump would want to piss off and remove any restraints on his testimony would be Comey. For the thinking man, this is pretty much evidence that there is nothing there at all that Trump fears.
Trump did it because of the way he handled the email deal, plain and simple. He tried to play AG instead of doing his job. He knew Lynch wouldn't do anything anyway even if he had. So he put it out there to take the heat off of the Justice Dept. What the hell do you think Loretta and Slick Willy were talking about out on the tarmac that day.
Could this be the beginning of the end of Hillary and Humma????
Me an jell0 thanks they waz talking abouts gran kids.
He already had leading Dems, including Hillary and Schumer, calling for Comey's head and Trump rightfully could not trust Comey so he fired him with no forewarning. Dems go after Trump for the Firing and throws their words on record right back in their face and belittles them
Trump wants a special prosecutor but will get stonewalled by Shumer and rest of Dems. Now Dems demanding a special prosecutor . Trump can now get his special prosecutor to go after the leakers of sensitive info and using the NSA and CIA for internal political battles Just my two cents. Schumer and his ilk can't stonewall now as on record now demanding a sp
As far as the Russian connection all foreign Gov't's spend millions on lobbying our congress including our enemies. In fact former former congressmen dem and Repub go work as lobbyists for our foreign enemies
Have yet to hear one logical explanation how and why the Russians were able to influence our election. The people that buy into this would believe any fairytale that furthered their emotional failed ideology
Its the only thing you dimocrap dumascrap pukes have. Problem is, even Hillary, the DNC, Schumer and fake news knows its not true. They have nothing and have to have something to keep gullible suckers like you hanging on to your only ray of hope. They need suckers like you to push their agenda.
"The sky is falling. The dims will save you. Send money honey, or youre all gonna die. The ruszians hate hillary. Trump shacks up with rusxian hookers. He will sell you down the river. Rs want to push ur granny off the cliff.....".
And the suckers keep sucking it up.
.gov approached the DNC and RNC to shore up their computer systems before the election. They were allowed to work on the RNC firewalls. Because of the crooked crap going on rd Bernie S the DNC told them to bugger off.
You expect the Ds to say they are stupid as crap for running crooked Hillary or you expect them to blame their loss on the ruskies? The [bleep] are low lifes. They screwed Sanders over. They said you would save $2500 a year. They lie all the time.
You believe them because you want to. As zero said, "just believe".
You fit the definition of insanity. Keep just believing in liars. Youre an embassasment to humanity, Jell0.
Trump can't take much more of the Russia talk. He's cracking up over it.
I created a twitter account just to follow his tweets. He's out of his mind with anxiety over this. He does nothing but watch cable news and tweet about what he saw.
I try and try to keep out of this for the most part but if Jeff O is not the dumbest SOB on the planet I don't know who can compete with him. Sweet mother of all that is holy the stupid it burns I tell you. I can't believe you have enough brain power in that noggin to continue to breath without assistance. Please just shut your pie hole and quit inflicting the level of stupid on the unsuspecting.
This^^^^. Yes, i feel bad about having made fun of him in the past. I thought he was just a hardheaded stiffnecked liberal.
Now, unfortunately, I have come to realize I was dealing with someone who is evidently mentally handicapped.
What do Bernie Sanders’ hair and CNN have in common today? They are both saying, “Comey” every time you look at them.
The news coverage of Comey’s firing has become excellent entertainment. This is the biggest cognitive dissonance cluster bomb we’ve seen since election night. This one has everything.
For starters, the topic is too complicated for the public, and even the pundits. That creates a situation in which we’ll all invent our own version of the movie in our heads. Where there is confusion, complexity, and emotion there is usually lots of cognitive dissonance. We got all of that.
My cursory understanding of the topic is that Trump’s critics say he fired Comey to put a chill on the FBI’s investigation of collusion between Russia and the Trump campaign. This theory sort-of-almost makes sense, in a hypothetical and indirect way. I could see how taking out the top dog would make the underdogs at the FBI worry about going hard at the President. On the other hand, the people doing the actual investigation are professionals, and there would be too many witnesses if they did a bad job. So that doesn’t pass my sniff test. But I can’t rule it out, either.
President Trump’s official reason for the Comey firing has to do with a loss of confidence over his handling of the Clinton email investigation. The beauty of that official explanation (true or not) is that it is making heads explode with Democrats and the Opposition Media. How dare President Trump fire the person we publicly demanded he fire!
Now we have a bizarre situation in which both sides (Demcrats and Republicans) wanted Comey fired, but they had different reasons for wanting it. Democrats were upset that he might have torpedoed Hillary Clinton’s campaign by talking about the Weiner laptop discovery of additional Clinton emails close to Election Day. And Republicans hated Comey for not pursuing a criminal case against Clinton for her email server misdeeds. That’s the perfect set-up for cognitive dissonance. I’ll explain:
Democrats and the Opposition Media reflexively oppose almost everything President Trump does. This time he gave them something they wanted, badly, but not for the reason they wanted. That’s a trigger. It forces anti-Trumpers to act angry in public that he did the thing they wanted him to do. And they are.
Trump cleverly addressed the FBI’s Russian collusion investigation by putting the following line in the Comey firing letter: “While I greatly appreciate you informing me, on three separate occasions, that I am not under investigation, I nevertheless concur with the judgment of the Department of Justice that you are not able to effectively lead the Bureau.”
That one odd sentence caused every media outlet to display the quote and talk about it, over and over. And when you focus on something, no matter the reason, it rises in importance in your mind. President Trump, the Master Persuader, made all of us think about the “not under investigation” part over, and over, and over.
The trick here is that members of Trump’s campaign might be the ones under investigation, not Trump himself. But that’s where the complexity of this topic is useful to the Master Persuader. The viewing public won’t make that distinction. All they will hear – over and over – is the “not under investigation” part.
I’ve taught you in this blog that the right amount of “wrong” is what captures our attention and creates a memory. Trump’s odd inclusion of the “not under investigation” line is just wrong enough that we can’t move past it. It is persuasion-perfect.
The best explanation I have heard for the timing of Comey’s firing is that it comes soon after the Assistant Attorney General was confirmed, and he is Comey’s official boss. You need a proper boss for a proper firing. And it came right after Comey embarrassed himself by getting some facts about the Clinton email situation wrong in front of Congress. There is no perfect time to fire a person, but this was close to perfect.
My favorite part of this firing – from a persuasion perspective – is that it is such a strong move. The pure dominance of the play is what will stick in our minds. This was some ballsy Presidenting. That’s the lasting takeaway. You’ll remember the boldness long after you forget the timing and the details.
I’m also fascinated by how quickly the media turned on Comey after he was out of office. Apparently lots of people were afraid of him. No one mentioned that fear BEFORE he was fired, so I assume they really were afraid of him. Now people on both sides can’t stop yammering about how scary he was. Clearly it was a good firing for the country, regardless of the timing and the details.
My opinion of Comey’s handling of the Clinton email issue remains the same. I believe he sacrificed his career and reputation to avoid taking from the American voters their option of having the leader of their choice. If Comey had pushed for Clinton’s indictment, the country would have ended up with a President Trump without a “fair” election. That was the worst-case scenario for the country and the world. Comey prevented that disaster while still making it clear to the American public that Clinton was not guilt-free with her email server. He let the voters decide how much weight to assign all of that. In my opinion, Comey handled the Clinton email situation like a patriot. The media is spinning the situation as “making it all about himself.” That’s true in the same sense that a Medal of Honor winner who jumped on a grenade to save his buddies is “making it all about himself.” I don’t disagree with the characterization that Comey was trying to be the “hero” because that’s how it looks to me too.
I once heard a story about a guy who pulled a woman out of a car that was on fire. He got burns on his arms doing it. He saved her life, but I don’t like him because he was trying to be a hero. That guy made it all about himself.
I’m sure Comey had his flaws. But I don’t think his handling of the Clinton emails was among them. I assume historians will think otherwise.
Its the only thing you dimocrap dumascrap pukes have. Problem is, even Hillary, the DNC, Schumer and fake news knows its not true. They have nothing and have to have something to keep gullible suckers like you hanging on to your only ray of hope. They need suckers like you to push their agenda.
"The sky is falling. The dims will save you. Send money honey, or youre all gonna die. The ruszians hate hillary. Trump shacks up with rusxian hookers. He will sell you down the river. Rs want to push ur granny off the cliff.....".
And the suckers keep sucking it up.
.gov approached the DNC and RNC to shore up their computer systems before the election. They were allowed to work on the RNC firewalls. Because of the crooked crap going on rd Bernie S the DNC told them to bugger off.
You expect the Ds to say they are stupid as crap for running crooked Hillary or you expect them to blame their loss on the ruskies? The [bleep] are low lifes. They screwed Sanders over. They said you would save $2500 a year. They lie all the time.
You believe them because you want to. As zero said, "just believe".
You fit the definition of insanity. Keep just believing in liars. Youre an embassasment to humanity, Jell0.
Trump can't take much more of the Russia talk. He's cracking up over it.
I created a twitter account just to follow his tweets. He's out of his mind with anxiety over this. He does nothing but watch cable news and tweet about what he saw.
He's a d-bag.
Yeah. I can tell hes slowing down and cant take much more of draining the swamp and saving this nation. If it folds and rolls please let us have your addy sos we can get together and discuss wtf we ought to do.
I try and try to keep out of this for the most part but if Jeff O is not the dumbest SOB on the planet I don't know who can compete with him. Sweet mother of all that is holy the stupid it burns I tell you. I can't believe you have enough brain power in that noggin to continue to breath without assistance. Please just shut your pie hole and quit inflicting the level of stupid on the unsuspecting.
Don't even pay attention to those guys. They're just liberal propaganda trolls. I read that crap and just laugh.
Trump can't take much more of the Russia talk. He's cracking up over it.
I created a twitter account just to follow his tweets. He's out of his mind with anxiety over this. He does nothing but watch cable news and tweet about what he saw.
He's a d-bag.
OK, RobJordan. You were so right about the FACT Hillary was going to win you made that bet with Fubarski...
You guys are the ULTIMATE homers and you should be embarrassed. Y'all would be apoplectic if this whole situation was flipped around, R to D, and for good reason: if a POTUS is beholden to Russia that's a huge deal. And you don't have to be a tin-hatter to see that this is very possible. We need to know the truth. If the truth turns out to be that Trump knew nothing about any of what members of his campaign staff appear to have been up to, fair enough. I'm fine with that. I doubt it's the case, but I'm fine with it. And THAT is a non-partisan take, right there. I didn't vote for Hillary Clinton; she's horrible, and if she'd won, we'd be pillorying her. She didn't. He did. So now we talk about him. Our intelligence services are unanimous that Russia tried to influence the election to benefit Trump. Are you aware of this? Further, there's vast clouds of dark oily smoke around not one, not two, not three, not four... of his campaign "folks". Subpoenas are imminent. This isn't make-believe, and as much as you guys would like to shout "fake news!!" at it until it goes away, it's not going to.
I'm gonna repeat myself for emphasis. Any patriotic American who isn't absolutely blinded by partisanship should care deeply about finding out the truth. We have a compromised, cheating SOB for a president, or, we have a deep state acting in a treasonous fashion. One of those things is true, both are very bad. We need to know the truth. . If you don't agree with that, you aren't a patriotic American. You're simply a partisan bubblehead who can't be bothered to un-ass your head and look around.
And yes, all the crap you wankers pitch my way means you deserve every bit of the rubbing-in that'll come your way if/when my prediction is shown to be true. If not, then I'll deserve the crap. That's the deal.
Now get to work un-assing your heads. It's embarrassing to be associated with.
You guys are the ULTIMATE homers and you should be embarrassed. Y'all would be apoplectic if this whole situation was flipped around, R to D, and for good reason: if a POTUS is beholden to Russia that's a huge deal. And you don't have to be a tin-hatter to see that this is very possible. We need to know the truth. If the truth turns out to be that Trump knew nothing about any of what members of his campaign staff appear to have been up to, fair enough. I'm fine with that. I doubt it's the case, but I'm fine with it. And THAT is a non-partisan take, right there. I didn't vote for Hillary Clinton; she's horrible, and if she'd won, we'd be pillorying her. She didn't. He did. So now we talk about him. Our intelligence services are unanimous that Russia tried to influence the election to benefit Trump. Are you aware of this? Further, there's vast clouds of dark oily smoke around not one, not two, not three, not four... of his campaign "folks". Subpoenas are imminent. This isn't make-believe, and as much as you guys would like to shout "fake news!!" at it until it goes away, it's not going to.
I'm gonna repeat myself for emphasis. Any patriotic American who isn't absolutely blinded by partisanship should care deeply about finding out the truth. We have a compromised, cheating SOB for a president, or, we have a deep state acting in a treasonous fashion. One of those things is true, both are very bad. We need to know the truth. . If you don't agree with that, you aren't a patriotic American. You're simply a partisan bubblehead who can't be bothered to un-ass your head and look around.
And yes, all the crap you wankers pitch my way means you deserve every bit of the rubbing-in that'll come your way if/when my prediction is shown to be true. If not, then I'll deserve the crap. That's the deal.
Now get to work un-assing your heads. It's embarrassing to be associated with.
Jeff:
When Trump is removed from office these folks will blame it on some conspiracy, deep state nonsense, or whatever else Sean Hannity can think of with his addled brain.
Enjoy the show. The circus has already begun crashing down.
I speak read and write fluent Russian and worked there 4 years and have a bit more knowledge
When uneducated idiots with zero knowledge or understanding of Russian culture politics and history come on and post it just makes me laugh at their lack of education
My Russian friends are amazed how stupid and naive the typical American is
You guys are the ULTIMATE homers and you should be embarrassed. Y'all would be apoplectic if this whole situation was flipped around, R to D, and for good reason: if a POTUS is beholden to Russia that's a huge deal. And you don't have to be a tin-hatter to see that this is very possible. We need to know the truth. If the truth turns out to be that Trump knew nothing about any of what members of his campaign staff appear to have been up to, fair enough. I'm fine with that. I doubt it's the case, but I'm fine with it. And THAT is a non-partisan take, right there. I didn't vote for Hillary Clinton; she's horrible, and if she'd won, we'd be pillorying her. She didn't. He did. So now we talk about him. Our intelligence services are unanimous that Russia tried to influence the election to benefit Trump. Are you aware of this? Further, there's vast clouds of dark oily smoke around not one, not two, not three, not four... of his campaign "folks". Subpoenas are imminent. This isn't make-believe, and as much as you guys would like to shout "fake news!!" at it until it goes away, it's not going to.
I'm gonna repeat myself for emphasis. Any patriotic American who isn't absolutely blinded by partisanship should care deeply about finding out the truth. We have a compromised, cheating SOB for a president, or, we have a deep state acting in a treasonous fashion. One of those things is true, both are very bad. We need to know the truth. . If you don't agree with that, you aren't a patriotic American. You're simply a partisan bubblehead who can't be bothered to un-ass your head and look around.
And yes, all the crap you wankers pitch my way means you deserve every bit of the rubbing-in that'll come your way if/when my prediction is shown to be true. If not, then I'll deserve the crap. That's the deal.
Now get to work un-assing your heads. It's embarrassing to be associated with.
I thought maybe you were at least becoming a bit coherent, but your last sentence showed me it was just more jello incoherent smoke and mirrors.
Its the only thing you dimocrap dumascrap pukes have. Problem is, even Hillary, the DNC, Schumer and fake news knows its not true. They have nothing and have to have something to keep gullible suckers like you hanging on to your only ray of hope. They need suckers like you to push their agenda.
"The sky is falling. The dims will save you. Send money honey, or youre all gonna die. The ruszians hate hillary. Trump shacks up with rusxian hookers. He will sell you down the river. Rs want to push ur granny off the cliff.....".
And the suckers keep sucking it up.
.gov approached the DNC and RNC to shore up their computer systems before the election. They were allowed to work on the RNC firewalls. Because of the crooked crap going on rd Bernie S the DNC told them to bugger off.
You expect the Ds to say they are stupid as crap for running crooked Hillary or you expect them to blame their loss on the ruskies? The [bleep] are low lifes. They screwed Sanders over. They said you would save $2500 a year. They lie all the time.
You believe them because you want to. As zero said, "just believe".
You fit the definition of insanity. Keep just believing in liars. Youre an embassasment to humanity, Jell0.
Trump can't take much more of the Russia talk. He's cracking up over it.
I created a twitter account just to follow his tweets. He's out of his mind with anxiety over this. He does nothing but watch cable news and tweet about what he saw.
He's a d-bag.
Yeah. I can tell hes slowing down and cant take much more of draining the swamp and saving this nation. If it folds and rolls please let us have your addy sos we can get together and discuss wtf we ought to do.
Yeah. I can tell hes slowing down and cant take much more of draining the swamp and saving this nation. If it folds and rolls please let us have your addy sos we can get together and discuss wtf we ought to do.
Its the only thing you dimocrap dumascrap pukes have. Problem is, even Hillary, the DNC, Schumer and fake news knows its not true. They have nothing and have to have something to keep gullible suckers like you hanging on to your only ray of hope. They need suckers like you to push their agenda.
"The sky is falling. The dims will save you. Send money honey, or youre all gonna die. The ruszians hate hillary. Trump shacks up with rusxian hookers. He will sell you down the river. Rs want to push ur granny off the cliff.....".
And the suckers keep sucking it up.
.gov approached the DNC and RNC to shore up their computer systems before the election. They were allowed to work on the RNC firewalls. Because of the crooked crap going on rd Bernie S the DNC told them to bugger off.
You expect the Ds to say they are stupid as crap for running crooked Hillary or you expect them to blame their loss on the ruskies? The [bleep] are low lifes. They screwed Sanders over. They said you would save $2500 a year. They lie all the time.
You believe them because you want to. As zero said, "just believe".
You fit the definition of insanity. Keep just believing in liars. Youre an embassasment to humanity, Jell0.
...BAM!!
Check for yer boot, Jag, as it might have slipped off up Starflunkies/JO's arse where you planted it!
Yeah. I can tell hes slowing down and cant take much more of draining the swamp and saving this nation. If it folds and rolls please let us have your addy sos we can get together and discuss wtf we ought to do.
You guys are the ULTIMATE homers and you should be embarrassed. Y'all would be apoplectic if this whole situation was flipped around, R to D, and for good reason: if a POTUS is beholden to Russia that's a huge deal. And you don't have to be a tin-hatter to see that this is very possible. We need to know the truth. If the truth turns out to be that Trump knew nothing about any of what members of his campaign staff appear to have been up to, fair enough. I'm fine with that. I doubt it's the case, but I'm fine with it. And THAT is a non-partisan take, right there. I didn't vote for Hillary Clinton; she's horrible, and if she'd won, we'd be pillorying her. She didn't. He did. So now we talk about him. Our intelligence services are unanimous that Russia tried to influence the election to benefit Trump. Are you aware of this? Further, there's vast clouds of dark oily smoke around not one, not two, not three, not four... of his campaign "folks". Subpoenas are imminent. This isn't make-believe, and as much as you guys would like to shout "fake news!!" at it until it goes away, it's not going to.
I'm gonna repeat myself for emphasis. Any patriotic American who isn't absolutely blinded by partisanship should care deeply about finding out the truth. We have a compromised, cheating SOB for a president, or, we have a deep state acting in a treasonous fashion. One of those things is true, both are very bad. We need to know the truth. . If you don't agree with that, you aren't a patriotic American. You're simply a partisan bubblehead who can't be bothered to un-ass your head and look around.
And yes, all the crap you wankers pitch my way means you deserve every bit of the rubbing-in that'll come your way if/when my prediction is shown to be true. If not, then I'll deserve the crap. That's the deal.
Now get to work un-assing your heads. It's embarrassing to be associated with.
Originally Posted by Jeff_O
I'll toss it back at you.
You guys are the ULTIMATE homers and you should be embarrassed. Y'all would be apoplectic if this whole situation was flipped around, R to D, and for good reason: if a POTUS is beholden to Russia that's a huge deal. And you don't have to be a tin-hatter to see that this is very possible. We need to know the truth. If the truth turns out to be that Trump knew nothing about any of what members of his campaign staff appear to have been up to, fair enough. I'm fine with that. I doubt it's the case, but I'm fine with it. And THAT is a non-partisan take, right there. I didn't vote for Hillary Clinton; she's horrible, and if she'd won, we'd be pillorying her. She didn't. He did. So now we talk about him. Our intelligence services are unanimous that Russia tried to influence the election to benefit Trump. Are you aware of this? Further, there's vast clouds of dark oily smoke around not one, not two, not three, not four... of his campaign "folks". Subpoenas are imminent. This isn't make-believe, and as much as you guys would like to shout "fake news!!" at it until it goes away, it's not going to.
I'm gonna repeat myself for emphasis. Any patriotic American who isn't absolutely blinded by partisanship should care deeply about finding out the truth. We have a compromised, cheating SOB for a president, or, we have a deep state acting in a treasonous fashion. One of those things is true, both are very bad. We need to know the truth. . If you don't agree with that, you aren't a patriotic American. You're simply a partisan bubblehead who can't be bothered to un-ass your head and look around.
And yes, all the crap you wankers pitch my way means you deserve every bit of the rubbing-in that'll come your way if/when my prediction is shown to be true. If not, then I'll deserve the crap. That's the deal.
Now get to work un-assing your heads. It's embarrassing to be associated with.
Neither you, nor anybody else, has come up with any evidence of collusion. That is the reality of it. The whole thing is a Clinton fabrication. Your track record on Trump's demise has not been very good.
You guys are the ULTIMATE homers and you should be embarrassed. Y'all would be apoplectic if this whole situation was flipped around, R to D, and for good reason: if a POTUS is beholden to Russia that's a huge deal. And you don't have to be a tin-hatter to see that this is very possible. We need to know the truth. If the truth turns out to be that Trump knew nothing about any of what members of his campaign staff appear to have been up to, fair enough. I'm fine with that. I doubt it's the case, but I'm fine with it. And THAT is a non-partisan take, right there. I didn't vote for Hillary Clinton; she's horrible, and if she'd won, we'd be pillorying her. She didn't. He did. So now we talk about him. Our intelligence services are unanimous that Russia tried to influence the election to benefit Trump. Are you aware of this? Further, there's vast clouds of dark oily smoke around not one, not two, not three, not four... of his campaign "folks". Subpoenas are imminent. This isn't make-believe, and as much as you guys would like to shout "fake news!!" at it until it goes away, it's not going to.
I'm gonna repeat myself for emphasis. Any patriotic American who isn't absolutely blinded by partisanship should care deeply about finding out the truth. We have a compromised, cheating SOB for a president, or, we have a deep state acting in a treasonous fashion. One of those things is true, both are very bad. We need to know the truth. . If you don't agree with that, you aren't a patriotic American. You're simply a partisan bubblehead who can't be bothered to un-ass your head and look around.
And yes, all the crap you wankers pitch my way means you deserve every bit of the rubbing-in that'll come your way if/when my prediction is shown to be true. If not, then I'll deserve the crap. That's the deal.
Now get to work un-assing your heads. It's embarrassing to be associated with.
What we do know is for certain is Clinton took at least $35,000,000. to hand over 20% of our uranium, and a $100million pledge. How is that not a bigger problem.
Jim_in_Idaho... thanks for posting the Scott Adams blog in your post on this thread. I happen to agree almost completely with Adams on what Comey did with the Hillary email situation. It's going to be some time before the historical perspective is clear on that whole deal, but in the end, I think Comey may be vindicated.
I also like his throwaway opening... that the whole thing is far too complicated for even an intelligent person to understand (and God knows most News pundits ain't that!) so they're all gonna make up their own narrative to fit their own idea of some simplified truth, and make a total hash of it in the process that everyone will eventually try to forget. It's like a perfect political storm, a situation so convoluted and Machiavellian, like those little Russian nesting dolls that go into each other (damn... those Frickin Russians, AGAIN!!!), it may even achieve the same sort of mythic status of the Schleswig-Holstein Question of the late 19th century!
You guys are the ULTIMATE homers and you should be embarrassed. Y'all would be apoplectic if this whole situation was flipped around, R to D, and for good reason: if a POTUS is beholden to Russia that's a huge deal. And you don't have to be a tin-hatter to see that this is very possible. We need to know the truth. If the truth turns out to be that Trump knew nothing about any of what members of his campaign staff appear to have been up to, fair enough. I'm fine with that. I doubt it's the case, but I'm fine with it. And THAT is a non-partisan take, right there. I didn't vote for Hillary Clinton; she's horrible, and if she'd won, we'd be pillorying her. She didn't. He did. So now we talk about him. Our intelligence services are unanimous that Russia tried to influence the election to benefit Trump. Are you aware of this? Further, there's vast clouds of dark oily smoke around not one, not two, not three, not four... of his campaign "folks". Subpoenas are imminent. This isn't make-believe, and as much as you guys would like to shout "fake news!!" at it until it goes away, it's not going to.
I'm gonna repeat myself for emphasis. Any patriotic American who isn't absolutely blinded by partisanship should care deeply about finding out the truth. We have a compromised, cheating SOB for a president, or, we have a deep state acting in a treasonous fashion. One of those things is true, both are very bad. We need to know the truth. . If you don't agree with that, you aren't a patriotic American. You're simply a partisan bubblehead who can't be bothered to un-ass your head and look around.
And yes, all the crap you wankers pitch my way means you deserve every bit of the rubbing-in that'll come your way if/when my prediction is shown to be true. If not, then I'll deserve the crap. That's the deal.
Now get to work un-assing your heads. It's embarrassing to be associated with.
What we do know is for certain is Clinton took at least $35,000,000. to hand over 20% of our uranium, and a $100million pledge. How is that not a bigger problem.
Yeah Jell0. Come to think of it, how is Hillarys campaign chairmans brother being an insider and a rep of a RUSSIAN BANK not an object of your interest?
You guys are the ULTIMATE homers and you should be embarrassed. Y'all would be apoplectic if this whole situation was flipped around, R to D, and for good reason: if a POTUS is beholden to Russia that's a huge deal. And you don't have to be a tin-hatter to see that this is very possible. We need to know the truth. If the truth turns out to be that Trump knew nothing about any of what members of his campaign staff appear to have been up to, fair enough. I'm fine with that. I doubt it's the case, but I'm fine with it. And THAT is a non-partisan take, right there. I didn't vote for Hillary Clinton; she's horrible, and if she'd won, we'd be pillorying her. She didn't. He did. So now we talk about him. Our intelligence services are unanimous that Russia tried to influence the election to benefit Trump. Are you aware of this? Further, there's vast clouds of dark oily smoke around not one, not two, not three, not four... of his campaign "folks". Subpoenas are imminent. This isn't make-believe, and as much as you guys would like to shout "fake news!!" at it until it goes away, it's not going to.
I'm gonna repeat myself for emphasis. Any patriotic American who isn't absolutely blinded by partisanship should care deeply about finding out the truth. We have a compromised, cheating SOB for a president, or, we have a deep state acting in a treasonous fashion. One of those things is true, both are very bad. We need to know the truth. . If you don't agree with that, you aren't a patriotic American. You're simply a partisan bubblehead who can't be bothered to un-ass your head and look around.
And yes, all the crap you wankers pitch my way means you deserve every bit of the rubbing-in that'll come your way if/when my prediction is shown to be true. If not, then I'll deserve the crap. That's the deal.
Now get to work un-assing your heads. It's embarrassing to be associated with.
What we do know is for certain is Clinton took at least $35,000,000. to hand over 20% of our uranium, and a $100million pledge. How is that not a bigger problem.
Yeah Jell0. Come to think of it, how is Hillarys campaign chairmans brother being an insider and a rep of a RUSSIAN BANK not an object of your interest?
I could understand having double standards, but the lack of having any standard disturbs me.
Yes, you do, but you won't believe it. Lieberals never believe the truth. Only lies.
There are NO issues with Russia, whatsoever. The demoncraps, of which you are most certainly one, lie repeatedly without shame and this is just another.
You guys are the ULTIMATE homers and you should be embarrassed. Y'all would be apoplectic if this whole situation was flipped around, R to D, and for good reason: if a POTUS is beholden to Russia that's a huge deal. And you don't have to be a tin-hatter to see that this is very possible. We need to know the truth. If the truth turns out to be that Trump knew nothing about any of what members of his campaign staff appear to have been up to, fair enough. I'm fine with that. I doubt it's the case, but I'm fine with it. And THAT is a non-partisan take, right there. I didn't vote for Hillary Clinton; she's horrible, and if she'd won, we'd be pillorying her. She didn't. He did. So now we talk about him. Our intelligence services are unanimous that Russia tried to influence the election to benefit Trump. Are you aware of this? Further, there's vast clouds of dark oily smoke around not one, not two, not three, not four... of his campaign "folks". Subpoenas are imminent. This isn't make-believe, and as much as you guys would like to shout "fake news!!" at it until it goes away, it's not going to.
I'm gonna repeat myself for emphasis. Any patriotic American who isn't absolutely blinded by partisanship should care deeply about finding out the truth. We have a compromised, cheating SOB for a president, or, we have a deep state acting in a treasonous fashion. One of those things is true, both are very bad. We need to know the truth. . If you don't agree with that, you aren't a patriotic American. You're simply a partisan bubblehead who can't be bothered to un-ass your head and look around.
And yes, all the crap you wankers pitch my way means you deserve every bit of the rubbing-in that'll come your way if/when my prediction is shown to be true. If not, then I'll deserve the crap. That's the deal.
Now get to work un-assing your heads. It's embarrassing to be associated with.
Why do you even bother posting your BS here, you've already made up your mind on Trump. You really think we're going to listen to a liberal hack such as yourself? And if it's so embarrassing to be associated with us, then don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out. You liberals are an embarrassment to this country.
I can pull up posts from over 10 years ago when I was kicking the shiet out of JeffO and being 'beaten' by many of the Campfire members for not being nice to the guy.
Some people are SO slow to learn. I've seen some people, that sent me PM's telling me I shouldn't be so hard on JeffO, now giving him grief.
There are a bunch of stupid mother fuc*kers on the 'Fire. Ain't pointed at any of the few above this post.
Jeffo. , what you need is someone like me to meet you in person, and act all friendly and say "hey man its all just the internet and just some innocent point of veiw shyt, we are good man". Then make like i wanta shake your hand. Then BAM!!! straight outta nowhere i give ya a johnny knoxville kick square in the nutsack....... i would take the assualt and battery charge your puss ass would want on me as a badge of honor.........
I can pull up posts from over 10 years ago when I was kicking the shiet out of JeffO and being 'beaten' by many of the Campfire members for not being nice to the guy.
Some people are SO slow to learn. I've seen some people, that sent me PM's telling me I shouldn't be so hard on JeffO, now giving him grief.
There are a bunch of stupid mother fuc*kers on the 'Fire. Ain't pointed at any of the few above this post.
I'll be the first to admit that I've tried to be nice to the guy in the past while trying to convince him how wrong he is about [bleep], but his act hasn't changed one bit over the years so [bleep]'em, he's on his own.
Just so you know Russia is desperate to get out of the sanctions we put them under. They believe their best bet is with Trump. they think they can make a deal with Trump, because a large no. of white house personnel have been working with the Russians for years, and have been on their payroll. Some have been in contact with their spy net work. Others may be subject to black mail for their conduct while in Russia. Page, Stone, Manafort and Flynn. All had very strange relations going on in Russia. Charges may be pressed against 1 or more, and they all worked for Trump campaign,or worked in the White House. The Sanctions are the root cause of the problems right now but may change at any time.
Whose sockpuppet is this moron GunTruck50? Hard to believe they have been able to keep this drivel spewing troll around since 2011. That my friends is commitment to an ideal.
Just so you know Russia is desperate to get out of the sanctions we put them under. They believe their best bet is with Trump. they think they can make a deal with Trump, because a large no. of white house personnel have been working with the Russians for years, and have been on their payroll. Some have been in contact with their spy net work. Others may be subject to black mail for their conduct while in Russia. Page, Stone, Manafort and Flynn. All had very strange relations going on in Russia. Charges may be pressed against 1 or more, and they all worked for Trump campaign,or worked in the White House. The Sanctions are the root cause of the problems right now but may change at any time.
Just so you know Russia is desperate to get out of the sanctions we put them under. They believe their best bet is with Trump. they think they can make a deal with Trump, because a large no. of white house personnel have been working with the Russians for years, and have been on their payroll. Some have been in contact with their spy net work. Others may be subject to black mail for their conduct while in Russia. Page, Stone, Manafort and Flynn. All had very strange relations going on in Russia. Charges may be pressed against 1 or more, and they all worked for Trump campaign,or worked in the White House. The Sanctions are the root cause of the problems right now but may change at any time.
How could you possibly know that? You simply can't. You are just saying what you HOPE is true, and ignoring a whole lot of evidence to the contrary.
Great illustration of how some here have their hands over their ears going LA LA LA LA LA!
I have friends who had their head equally up their ass about Hillary. Same damn thing. People politically identify with someone and BAM! .... away flies all reason.
Russia intervened in the election to help Trump. That's an established fact. Maybe neither he nor anybody in his campaign had anything to do with it- that's a possibility, one I'm willing to accept if folks in the know (as in, not you) come to that conclusion. So far they have not; to the contrary, what's been STATED on the record by senators, congressmen, and intel officials is that there are some pretty squirrely connections there. Then there's what's been leaked.
If you want to go full-retard into partisanship be my guest, but it won't affect how this turns out if you hold your breath until your face turns red and stomp your feet... personally, I care more about our democracy than that. If Trumps' campaign colluded without his knowledge, fine, he stays on, and we fry the spies and we move on. If Trump had any involvement he cannot be POTUS. Period. Anyone who disagrees with that is partisan to the point of treason. Which is blatantly obvious to anyone with a brain, but then again, all you can hear is LA LA LA LA LA!
The BEST thing Trump could've done is on Day #1 of his administration call for, or appoint, an independent entity with full subpoena power and resources up the wazoo and the mandate to get this sorted out, fully and transparently, so we as a country can put it to bed and move forward. That's what a wise & innocent man would've done. He's done exactly the opposite. My bet is he's neither wise nor innocent. But we'll see. Because unlike you I do entertain the possibility that my bet is wrong. Maybe this IS deep state "swamp" attack on an innocent duly elected POTUS. In that case we need to know THAT. The independent entity would've told us that, too.
Jeffo. , what you need is someone like me to meet you in person, and act all friendly and say "hey man its all just the internet and just some innocent point of veiw shyt, we are good man". Then make like i wanta shake your hand. Then BAM!!! straight outta nowhere i give ya a johnny knoxville kick square in the nutsack....... i would take the assualt and battery charge your puss ass would want on me as a badge of honor.........
You'd have to lift my nutsack off your chin first.
Trump could have done many things to address the corruption of the last 8 years, but it would be a full time job. I think he has a sense for pacing himself, and getting some important accomplishments done. He inherited the swamp, and it will take time to drain. I think clintons will be under further investigation.
Jeffy, old boy, it's easy to know what's true and whats a filthy lie. If the lieberal media puts it out there, it's a lie. If the elected rank, as in stench, and file of the demoncraps puts it out there, it's a lie. And if you put it out there after listening to these traitors, it's still a lie.
You mention "evidence". That's funny because there is absolutely NO evidence to show Trump colluded with Russia. Even the lying sack of chit demoncraps have to admit that when they are asked about all this nonsense. But they would rather spend trillions trying to prove something that does not exist than to lose ground on all the filth they, and obviously you, "value".
Jeffo. , what you need is someone like me to meet you in person, and act all friendly and say "hey man its all just the internet and just some innocent point of veiw shyt, we are good man". Then make like i wanta shake your hand. Then BAM!!! straight outta nowhere i give ya a johnny knoxville kick square in the nutsack....... i would take the assualt and battery charge your puss ass would want on me as a badge of honor.........
You'd have to lift my nutsack off your chin first.
Jeffo. , what you need is someone like me to meet you in person, and act all friendly and say "hey man its all just the internet and just some innocent point of veiw shyt, we are good man". Then make like i wanta shake your hand. Then BAM!!! straight outta nowhere i give ya a johnny knoxville kick square in the nutsack....... i would take the assualt and battery charge your puss ass would want on me as a badge of honor.........
You'd have to lift my nutsack off your chin first.
Just so you know Russia is desperate to get out of the sanctions we put them under. They believe their best bet is with Trump. they think they can make a deal with Trump, BUT THEY KNOW THEY COULD MAKE A DEAL WITH HILL AND BILL (PUTIN BEING WORTH $220 BILLION. HILLARY WOULD SELL US OUT TO THEM FOR A LITTLE SLIVER OF THAT. .
There are patriotic Americans, and then there are Democrats. Someone needs to put a bounty on Democrats and let us run them with dogs. Problem solved. It is as simple as that
Ok, so everything Trump says is true (bwa ha ha!) and everything anyone else says is a dirty rotten lie. Got it.
Partisan much?
Lets put it like this. The voting illegal aliens were against Trump, the criminals and dope dealers were against Trump, the baby killers were against Trump, the big banks were against Trump, the Muzzies on welfare were against Trump, the AAs on welfare were against Trump, the Mexicans on welfare were against Trump, the gays were against Trump, the American Communist Party was against Trump, the govt of Mexico was against Trump, and chicken schitts like you were against Trump. You arent exactly in the group that made America great.
There are patriotic Americans, and then there are Democrats. Someone needs to put a bounty on Democrats and let us run them with dogs. Problem solved. It is as simple as that
Jeffo. , what you need is someone like me to meet you in person, and act all friendly and say "hey man its all just the internet and just some innocent point of veiw shyt, we are good man". Then make like i wanta shake your hand. Then BAM!!! straight outta nowhere i give ya a johnny knoxville kick square in the nutsack....... i would take the assualt and battery charge your puss ass would want on me as a badge of honor.........
You'd have to lift my nutsack off your chin first.
We always knew you liked getting dome from dudes.
That was my thought too when I read Jello's response. It's just another thing he's said that seems to show his complicated set of true colors.
Reading his drizzle is funny, but pathetic at the same time.
POS bastids like two faced Schumer, Pelosi, Feinstein etc dont have the brains to realize this country cant survive when half the govt has not the slightest bit of decency with regard to being lowlife lying scumbags.
How can civilization exist when humans are so totally dishonest. Shumer says Trump has to answer as to why Comey was fired at this time. Lie. Trump doesnt have to answer or explain crap. Schumer says its because Comey was getting close. Another lie. All jellos buds support any traitorus activity of the libs but disengenuously scream like scalded cats when they percieve a possible slight.
Problem is, libs can see no good in the miracle of our constitution because of their mental state. The fuggers fear the sky is falling and to them everything is miserable when they live in the greatest country on earth. Stupidly, they think if this country fails, selfserving pukes like Hillary are going to make a great utopia. In actuality, the suckers will die like flies, which is the agenda their leaders have them on the streets protesting for. Unlike in previous revlutions, lots of folks here have guns. That has been the end result of every socialist led movement, except when their leaders were able to get them to slaughter their elders.
People like Jell0 are too stupid to see the kind of utopia that resulted from the revolutions in Russia and China. Of course they think the next time it will be different. They would rather die than read in the Bible about the great tribulation they are headed for.
This is a predictable result of a people who reject God and His tennants of being thankful and honest.
The only crimes that have been uncovered by all this investigation are the multiple felonies (16-17 of them) that Hillary Clinton committed, the criminal corruption withing the DNC that stole the nomination from Sanders, and the felony treason by those that leaked and unmasked information about private citizens. (Flynn.)
Not ONE molecule of evidence has come forth in the better part of the year this BS has been screamed about republicans or Russia.
If the Russians stole the election, perhaps the liberals here can tell us very simply HOW THEY DID IT?
They can't. It's just what they parrot from the liberal media.
On Martha M just now, Trumps old campaign mgr said Trump very probably would NOT reopen the Hillary investigation as it would "look political". BFD.
Before that she played McCabes testimoney today who said Comey had great support among FBI guys. Thats pretty disturbing to hear.
Then, some other prick i missed the name and position of, presumibly an fbi guy, said Trump ran Comey off just as the investigatiin was apparently getting the goods on him but essentially the investigation would get the goods on him anyway.
You guys are the ULTIMATE homers and you should be embarrassed. Y'all would be apoplectic if this whole situation was flipped around, R to D, and for good reason: if a POTUS is beholden to Russia that's a huge deal. And you don't have to be a tin-hatter to see that this is very possible. We need to know the truth. If the truth turns out to be that Trump knew nothing about any of what members of his campaign staff appear to have been up to, fair enough. I'm fine with that. I doubt it's the case, but I'm fine with it. And THAT is a non-partisan take, right there. I didn't vote for Hillary Clinton; she's horrible, and if she'd won, we'd be pillorying her. She didn't. He did. So now we talk about him. Our intelligence services are unanimous that Russia tried to influence the election to benefit Trump. Are you aware of this? Further, there's vast clouds of dark oily smoke around not one, not two, not three, not four... of his campaign "folks". Subpoenas are imminent. This isn't make-believe, and as much as you guys would like to shout "fake news!!" at it until it goes away, it's not going to.
I'm gonna repeat myself for emphasis. Any patriotic American who isn't absolutely blinded by partisanship should care deeply about finding out the truth. We have a compromised, cheating SOB for a president, or, we have a deep state acting in a treasonous fashion. One of those things is true, both are very bad. We need to know the truth. . If you don't agree with that, you aren't a patriotic American. You're simply a partisan bubblehead who can't be bothered to un-ass your head and look around.
And yes, all the crap you wankers pitch my way means you deserve every bit of the rubbing-in that'll come your way if/when my prediction is shown to be true. If not, then I'll deserve the crap. That's the deal.
Now get to work un-assing your heads. It's embarrassing to be associated with.
This is what happen when you sit home all day stoned and do nothing but watch the biased media,
the 'blues news' has eaten jeffo up......
Couldn't happen to a more deserving fella.
You hated Trump before the election, The Russians have little to do with any of your issue's. Your the only one who can't see that.
The more griods on welfare as a way of life, the more democrat voters is how they look at it, same thing with democrats wanting millions of illegal aliens to become citizens so they can vote for democrats. These are 2 of the agendas democrat politicians will never admit too or speak of.
If welfare ceased to exist, the democrat party would wither away, their would be nobody to vote for them........
Welfare in all forms - cash benefits, food stamps, medicare, housing assistance only add up to 20% of the population, many of whom are working poor. About 30% of those have only been on assistance for under a year, leaving about 14% of the population more chronically on assistance. This includes those on disability. There are no doubt some who are chronically on the dole basically sucking money out of the rest of us, but it's probably less than 1 in 15 - still too much, but not a huge burden on society in general.
As to the Trump thing, I'm going to sit back and eat popcorn. It's great entertainment as long as you don't take it too seriously. I can never wrap my head around how folks in the USA can get so worked up about their politics. Both sides seem to think the other side is the devil. For myself, I think the bible has a lot to say about how to treat your enemy, and it's good advice. I sure hope the truth about all of this (whatever that may be) comes out one day and it doesn't end up being another "Kennedy" thing that never really gets resolved.
If welfare ceased to exist, the democrat party would wither away, their would be nobody to vote for them........
Welfare in all forms - cash benefits, food stamps, medicare, housing assistance only add up to 20% of the population, many of whom are working poor. About 30% of those have only been on assistance for under a year, leaving about 14% of the population more chronically on assistance. This includes those on disability. There are no doubt some who are chronically on the dole basically sucking money out of the rest of us, but it's probably less than 1 in 15 - still too much, but not a huge burden on society in general.
As to the Trump thing, I'm going to sit back and eat popcorn. It's great entertainment as long as you don't take it too seriously. I can never wrap my head around how folks in the USA can get so worked up about their politics. Both sides seem to think the other side is the devil. For myself, I think the bible has a lot to say about how to treat your enemy, and it's good advice. I sure hope the truth about all of this (whatever that may be) comes out one day and it doesn't end up being another "Kennedy" thing that never really gets resolved.
Then why do they need to buy T-bones and filet mignon on our dime?
That's odd. The site I looked at when doing a bit of fact checking also cited the 2011 census. Further research seems to show that your site has good information:
Although the bulk of the numbers are from food stamps and medicaid and claims that 23% of homes where at least one person works are recipients of some form of aid. Another site said the average assistance is between 200 and 300 a month, but if you take the total spent ($158,000,000,000 per year) and divide by 100,000,000 or 130,000,000 recipients and divide that by 12 months, you get even less.
The only crimes that have been uncovered by all this investigation are the multiple felonies (16-17 of them) that Hillary Clinton committed, the criminal corruption withing the DNC that stole the nomination from Sanders, and the felony treason by those that leaked and unmasked information about private citizens. (Flynn.)
Not ONE molecule of evidence has come forth in the better part of the year this BS has been screamed about republicans or Russia.
If the Russians stole the election, perhaps the liberals here can tell us very simply HOW THEY DID IT?
They can't. It's just what they parrot from the liberal media.
Food for thought.
If the Russians hacked the election, why didn't they hack CA and NY, why let the two largest EC votes go to Hillary?
Would have been a much safer bet to just hack those two states instead of the other 48.
2011 welfare as a way life nefarious stats.... and the # seems to do nothing but increase upon further research..... my point is,,,,,, democrats solidify as major portion of their base with welfare as a way of life, espically in major urban areas with groids and taxpayers foot the fuuccking bill for shanaynay and her litter of 5 kids with 5 different baby daddy last names. Every fuucing year i write a check to the u.s. treasury for income tax, it burns my ass to think these groids are getting new spinner rims, flat screens and buying steaks cheetos and ho-hos on my nickel, and they have the same right to vote.. its fuucing b.s...........
"Trump seemed to acknowledge the Russia probe might touch people once close to him, taking pains to point out Thursday, in an interview with NBC News, that Comey assured him three times he’s not in trouble -- but offered no such assurance regarding others in his campaign. “I know that I’m not under investigation. Me. Personally,” Trump told NBC’s Lester Holt. “I’m not talking about campaigns. I’m not talking about anything else.”"
RickyD, you seem like a real person. Want to bet me a box of bullets that before the midterms in 2018, it'll be shown that campaign members were in collusion with Russia?
Remember... I'm willing to accept Trump as POTUS even if it's shown his campaign colluded... as long as we KNOW (somehow) that he didn't know about it. It'd be a lesson learned and we move forward.
But in all y'all's heat of hearts you know you are getting an uncomfortable gnawing feeling about this. Clearly, something is up. And it sure reeks of coverup at this point. Remember, what took Nixon down wasn't the burglary per se, it was the coverup.
Can we all agree that this issue is paralyzing the Trump administration and it's in everyone's best interest that whatever the truth is, we do what's needed to go get it? I don't see how any reasonable person could disagree with THAT. For Trump to move his agenda forward, this needs to be resolved. There's certainly parts of his agenda I want to see, but if anyone here thinks any of his more controversial stuff has a snowball's chance of happening with this [bleep] hanging over him... I think you need to re-think that.
Let's unite behind finding the truth here. Only the truth will set Trump free. Or put him in jail as the case may be.
The [bleep] orange-headed egomaniac could've prevented all this with just a LITTLE wisdom and humility. Ugh.
Remember... I'm willing to accept Trump as POTUS even if it's shown his campaign colluded... as long as we KNOW (somehow) that he didn't know about it. It'd be a lesson learned and we move forward.
But in all y'all's heat of hearts you know you are getting an uncomfortable gnawing feeling about this. Clearly, something is up. And it sure reeks of coverup at this point. Remember, what took Nixon down wasn't the burglary per se, it was the coverup.
Can we all agree that this issue is paralyzing the Trump administration and it's in everyone's best interest that whatever the truth is, we do what's needed to go get it? I don't see how any reasonable person could disagree with THAT. For Trump to move his agenda forward, this needs to be resolved. There's certainly parts of his agenda I want to see, but if anyone here thinks any of his more controversial stuff has a snowball's chance of happening with this [bleep] hanging over him... I think you need to re-think that.
Let's unite behind finding the truth here. Only the truth will set Trump free. Or put him in jail as the case may be.
The [bleep] orange-headed egomaniac could've prevented all this with just a LITTLE wisdom and humility. Ugh.
Please give us all here a very simple explanation of exactly HOW Russia could have made one iota's difference in the election.
Rockibbar, You are wasting your time asking Jello for an explanation or proof. He has been asked over and over again by different people and refuses to answer.
It is obvious he gets his info from far left wing sources and doesn't have the ability to critical think, he is a typical lefty.
This issue is NOT paralyzing the administration, that is being done by the MSM in collusion with the democrats because they hate Trump. From obama on down to every head of every agency are on the record there is NO PROOF. PERIOD. what there is proof of however, is COLLUSION by the democrats to sabotage the Sanders campaign and COLLUSION by Hillary Clinton with the Russians and our uranium in return for contributions to their foundation. But that doesn't fit the democrat narrative. Proof positive once again democrats present an even bigger danger to this country than the Russians ever did.
JeffO every post you make shows more and more that you are clearly in the running for the lowest intelligence life form that can exist on this planet. The only other conclusion I can draw is that you are a parasite and living on the dumbest human being alive and his one brain cell is doing the breathing for you 2. I swear the single cell amoeba that crawled out of the primordial muck has Einsteins intelligence compared to you. You drone on and on about Trumps inevitable demise and yet everything you say has been proven wrong over time. Even for a paid hack at some point you would think your pride would force you to quit posting and fade into the sunset. But no you keep doubling down on stupid!
The lib's and the msm are trying to paralyze the administration with this phony scandal , it's all they have. They weren't concerned with Russia until after Hillary lost. Anyone with an ounce of common sense and critical thinking skills can see through this ploy by the lib's.
Remember... I'm willing to accept Trump as POTUS even if it's shown his campaign colluded... as long as we KNOW (somehow) that he didn't know about it. It'd be a lesson learned and we move forward.
But in all y'all's heat of hearts you know you are getting an uncomfortable gnawing feeling about this. Clearly, something is up. And it sure reeks of coverup at this point. Remember, what took Nixon down wasn't the burglary per se, it was the coverup.
Can we all agree that this issue is paralyzing the Trump administration and it's in everyone's best interest that whatever the truth is, we do what's needed to go get it? I don't see how any reasonable person could disagree with THAT. For Trump to move his agenda forward, this needs to be resolved. There's certainly parts of his agenda I want to see, but if anyone here thinks any of his more controversial stuff has a snowball's chance of happening with this [bleep] hanging over him... I think you need to re-think that.
Let's unite behind finding the truth here. Only the truth will set Trump free. Or put him in jail as the case may be.
The [bleep] orange-headed egomaniac could've prevented all this with just a LITTLE wisdom and humility. Ugh.
Your first sentence you try and come across as somewhat non-partisan then you write that horseshit. I can guarandamntee you that I am not in the least bit nervous about this fake Trump colluded with Russia BS story made up by the left. You are about as disingenuous as they come so GFY.
Remember... I'm willing to accept Trump as POTUS even if it's shown his campaign colluded... as long as we KNOW (somehow) that he didn't know about it. It'd be a lesson learned and we move forward.
But in all y'all's heat of hearts you know you are getting an uncomfortable gnawing feeling about this. Clearly, something is up. And it sure reeks of coverup at this point. Remember, what took Nixon down wasn't the burglary per se, it was the coverup.
Can we all agree that this issue is paralyzing the Trump administration and it's in everyone's best interest that whatever the truth is, we do what's needed to go get it? I don't see how any reasonable person could disagree with THAT. For Trump to move his agenda forward, this needs to be resolved. There's certainly parts of his agenda I want to see, but if anyone here thinks any of his more controversial stuff has a snowball's chance of happening with this [bleep] hanging over him... I think you need to re-think that.
Let's unite behind finding the truth here. Only the truth will set Trump free. Or put him in jail as the case may be.
The [bleep] orange-headed egomaniac could've prevented all this with just a LITTLE wisdom and humility. Ugh.
Talking about remembering? I seem to remember that you had been pushing the idea that TRUMP had been in collusion with the Russians and it would be proven.
So, seems you are adjusting your prognostication to me.
The lib's and the msm are trying to paralyze the administration with this phony scandal , it's all they have. They weren't concerned with Russia until after Hillary lost. Anyone with an ounce of common sense and critical thinking skills can see through this ploy by the lib's.
They sure as hell weren't concerned about it when Hillary was trading off uranium ore.
The lib's and the msm are trying to paralyze the administration with this phony scandal , it's all they have. They weren't concerned with Russia until after Hillary lost. Anyone with an ounce of common sense and critical thinking skills can see through this ploy by the lib's.
Yeah. I can tell hes slowing down and cant take much more of draining the swamp and saving this nation. If it folds and rolls please let us have your addy sos we can get together and discuss wtf we ought to do.
Yeah. I can tell hes slowing down and cant take much more of draining the swamp and saving this nation. If it folds and rolls please let us have your addy sos we can get together and discuss wtf we ought to do.
Ask for "MeatGazer" and tell them you're interested in renting inmates from a rainbow flannel shirt wearing D.A.
Dood...you probably shouldn't do that.
Agreed.
Seems some people need a lesson in forum manners, but I'm not holding out much hope that he'll listen. He is awfully full of himself.
Some people have a short memory. I wasn't the one who outed RobJordan as Jordan Funk. I merely continue to point out he continues to post here under different screen names (StarGazer and others) after reneging on his bet with Fubarski about who would win the November election. He's a hardcore commie, known liar and a real POS.
"Trump seemed to acknowledge the Russia probe might touch people once close to him, taking pains to point out Thursday, in an interview with NBC News, that Comey assured him three times he’s not in trouble -- but offered no such assurance regarding others in his campaign. “I know that I’m not under investigation. Me. Personally,” Trump told NBC’s Lester Holt. “I’m not talking about campaigns. I’m not talking about anything else.”"
RickyD, you seem like a real person. Want to bet me a box of bullets that before the midterms in 2018, it'll be shown that campaign members were in collusion with Russia?
Jeff, the FBI has been "investigating" the "Russia" connection since last July. Understanding full well the ONLY thing they hoped to do was to prove Trump colluded with Russia and to prevent his election. If there was anything to be found they would have found it by now, and what we keep hearing over and over again, there is NO evidence. None. Now, everyone knows, though lieberals won't admit, Russia has hacked our elections for decades. The only thing that is new, is having a candidate so stupid, arrogant, and traitorous, to host all her State Dept emails on a personal and unprotected server so the entire world could hack in and find anything and everything that was there. That is what the furor should be about and what it will be about when that wretched bitotch is indicted, and convicted, along with Pedophile Bill.
Now, I don't trust the FBI, CIA, Secret Service, Justice Dept., or anything connected with the Federal gov. If it were up to me, I'd take them all down to gitmo and let the water sports begin! Without a doubt they will "find" something that's nothing just so the demoncraps can howl.
Yeah. I can tell hes slowing down and cant take much more of draining the swamp and saving this nation. If it folds and rolls please let us have your addy sos we can get together and discuss wtf we ought to do.
Ask for "MeatGazer" and tell them you're interested in renting inmates from a rainbow flannel shirt wearing D.A.
Dood...you probably shouldn't do that.
Agreed.
Seems some people need a lesson in forum manners, but I'm not holding out much hope that he'll listen. He is awfully full of himself.
Some people have a short memory. I wasn't the one who outed RobJordan as Jordan Funk. I merely continue to point out he continues to post here under different screen names (StarGazer and others) after reneging on his bet with Fubarski about who would win the November election. He's a hardcore commie, known liar and a real POS.
Want to bet me a box of bullets that before the midterms in 2018, it'll be shown that campaign members were in collusion with Russia?
Define "collusion" and I'll give you 5:1 odds on that bet. If I win, you give me one box and if I lose I'll give you five
Well, you don't qualify as a reasonable man in my book, but we could still do this.
We'd need to really nail things down to avoid potential conflict later.
Here's a few definitions of collusion. First, from Wiki:
Collusion is an agreement between two or more parties, sometimes illegal and therefore secretive, to limit open competition by deceiving, misleading, or defrauding others of their legal rights, or to obtain an objective forbidden by law typically by defrauding or gaining an unfair market advantage.
Here's what is top-of-page with a Google search:
secret or illegal cooperation or conspiracy, especially in order to cheat or deceive others
Here's Webster:
secret agreement or cooperation especially for an illegal or deceitful purpose
Do you see any problems or confusion there? If so let's air that out now.
More to the point is defining a) who was "a member of his campaign" and b) what it means that they are shown to have been in collusion.
For the former, I propose ANYONE who ever had any titular acknowledgement by the campaign, however briefly, or was paid or otherwise compensated by the campaign; or was hired by the campaign; including but not limited to "advisor". Page, Stone, Manafort, Flynn are explicitly included.
For the latter I'd propose that definitive public statements by the intelligence services and/or AG office shall suffice. Of course, any convictions will too. Further, being granted immunity doesn't negate their guilt for our purposes, nor does a presidential pardon.
Want to bet me a box of bullets that before the midterms in 2018, it'll be shown that campaign members were in collusion with Russia?
Define "collusion" and I'll give you 5:1 odds on that bet. If I win, you give me one box and if I lose I'll give you five
Well, you don't qualify as a reasonable man in my book, but we could still do this.
We'd need to really nail things down to avoid potential conflict later.
Here's a few definitions of collusion. First, from Wiki:
Collusion is an agreement between two or more parties, sometimes illegal and therefore secretive, to limit open competition by deceiving, misleading, or defrauding others of their legal rights, or to obtain an objective forbidden by law typically by defrauding or gaining an unfair market advantage.
Here's what is top-of-page with a Google search:
secret or illegal cooperation or conspiracy, especially in order to cheat or deceive others
Here's Webster:
secret agreement or cooperation especially for an illegal or deceitful purpose
Do you see any problems or confusion there? If so let's air that out now.
More to the point is defining a) who was "a member of his campaign" and b) what it means that they are shown to have been in collusion.
For the former, I propose ANYONE who ever had any titular acknowledgement by the campaign, however briefly, or was paid or otherwise compensated by the campaign; or was hired by the campaign; including but not limited to "advisor". Page, Stone, Manafort, Flynn are explicitly included.
For the latter I'd propose that definitive public statements by the intelligence services and/or AG office shall suffice. Of course, any convictions will too. Further, being granted immunity doesn't negate their guilt for our purposes, nor does a presidential pardon.
Tell me if this works for you.
So, you dont consider someone who risked his life serving in the armed forces as a reasonable person. You do however evidently consider those who work to flood this country with moslems as reasonable people and people who issuse executive orders contrary to laws duly enacted by an elected congress as reasonable. You also consider those who promise to cut health insurance costs by $2500 a year and those who tell you Benghazi was caused by an anti moslem film as reasonable.
Sheesh. Unreal. You are a congenital dumbass. Your stupidity is astounding but enlightening. Now we can understand how effective the educational system was in brainwashing the dumb kids and why there are no so many snowflakes wanting to imitate lemmings.
I would like to know though, if your parents were siblings or if you grew up heating your food in plastic bags. Also, did you do a lot of MJ, please.
I don't blame Trump for firing Comey. he probably needed firing. But, I sure as heck wish our president would stay the Hell off Twitter and just let this thing go. All he is doing is adding fuel to a fire that the Democrats and the media want to keep burning. So far, my biggest gripe about Trump has been that he does not know when to keep his mouth shut. One can do that and get by in the private sector, one cannot in government and the public sector.
I don't blame Trump for firing Comey. he probably needed firing. But, I sure as heck wish our president would stay the Hell off Twitter and just let this thing go. All he is doing is adding fuel to a fire that the Democrats and the media want to keep burning. So far, my biggest gripe about Trump has been that he does not know when to keep his mouth shut. One can do that and get by in the private sector, one cannot in government and the public sector.
Again with the "Trump's Twitter tweaks my twatter" bovine feces.
I'd rather the media be crying about "Donny two scoops" than mobilizing protests against Sessions' law and order. If Trump's Twitter continues to tweak your twatter I'm guessing you have a hard time figuring out which bathroom to use also. You're probably were right there with Rosie in December calling for Comey to be fired:
Using twitter bypasses the corrupt media and gets the message out to the masses without being filtered or altered. It's effective and that's why the corrupt media hates him. It's also a great way to get the message out to the younger generation. I'd prefer that people didn't watch the corrupt news organizations thereby decreasing their market share and revenue and preventing the corrupt media from getting their lies into mushy heads.
Barry, Jeffzero has been hounded here to produce evidence of Trump-Russia collusion since his queen bitch lost on Nov. 8.
He can't explain why the NSA (and the entire intelligence community) hasn't found anything, the democrats in congress have not seen anything, the FBI has found nothing, etc. etc. etc. Because surely, as soon as ANY democrat/communist saw ANY evidence it would be leaked to the media. Instead all the communists can do is whine about Trump having two scoops of ice cream and only serving reporters one.
Barry, Jeffzero has been hounded here to produce evidence of Trump-Russia collusion since his queen bitch lost on Nov. 8.
He can't explain why the NSA (and the entire intelligence community) hasn't found anything, the democrats in congress have not seen anything, the FBI has found nothing, etc. etc. etc. Because surely, as soon as ANY democrat/communist saw ANY evidence it would be leaked to the media. Instead all the communists can do is whine about Trump having two scoops of ice cream and only serving reporters one.
Exactly.
Liberals can't do anything besides repeat the "story" over and over and over.
Not one ounce of proof. Not one shred of evidence.
The dumbasses can't even explain how Russia COULD have remotely hacked our election. Or altered the outcome.
No brains. Just sheep bleating what the other sheep are bleating.
Russia hacked into Hilary's unsecured server and gave that information to Wikileaks. Wikileaks then released the information they received from Klintons unsecured, illegal server to the public and the public didn't like what they saw. Russia and Wikileaks did what journalists used to do before they became the democrats propaganda ministry. All of the information released by Wikileaks was true and the democrats didn't want us to know the truth, fearing that if we knew the truth we'd not vote for a corrupt, lying POS like Hilary. If the democrats really want to pin the blame on someone they should pin it on Comey for stepping outside of his role as FBI director and making decisions that were beyond his pay grade. Ex AG Lynch should never have met with WJC on a private plane during her offices investigation of the Klintons. There's lots of blame to assign and NONE of it is Trumps fault. I am disappointed in Gen. Flynn, I would've thought a guy that served his country in the capacity he did to be more honorable than he proved to be.
JeffO could try to refute the facts I just laid out but he won't because he's a democrat and democrats don't care about the truth, in fact they HATE the truth almost as much as they hate America. It's easier for the democrats to keep yelling and screaming their lies because they think everyone is as gullible and dishonest as they are.
I will say that if Trump colluded with Russia he should be impeached pronto but the facts of the multiple investigations have proven that he DID NOT collude with Russia so anyone that says he did is a lying sack ofshitt. A partisan lying sack ofshitt.
I dont think so. Assange hasnt been caught lying yet, as has jellos hero the zero and hillary. Assange says he didnt get the info from the Ruskies. I think its more probable patriots in the fbi and nsa leaked the info to him.
Russia hacked into Hilary's unsecured server and gave that information to Wikileaks. Wikileaks then released the information they received from Klintons unsecured, illegal server to the public and the public didn't like what they saw. Russia and Wikileaks did what journalists used to do before they became the democrats propaganda ministry. All of the information released by Wikileaks was true and the democrats didn't want us to know the truth, fearing that if we knew the truth we'd not vote for a corrupt, lying POS like Hilary. If the democrats really want to pin the blame on someone they should pin it on Comey for stepping outside of his role as FBI director and making decisions that were beyond his pay grade. Ex AG Lynch should never have met with WJC on a private plane during her offices investigation of the Klintons. There's lots of blame to assign and NONE of it is Trumps fault. I am disappointed in Gen. Flynn, I would've thought a guy that served his country in the capacity he did to be more honorable than he proved to be.
Exactly. How is what the Russians and Wikileaks did any different than a press release with some "anonymous source" that they won't divulge? It isn't. I could see some argument if they hacked voting machines and generated bogus ballots, or spread false information. They did nothing of the kind. This whole fiasco is an indictment of the DNC, Hillary, the news media and hypocritical liberal voters showcasing that they are either gullible, stupid or completely bereft of any scruples.
When is the story of zero reopening illegal surveillence of Trump after Nov 8 for political purposes going to elicit concern. Weaponizing govt branches to destroy private citizens is the biggest crime in our history. Jell0, explain why that is OK, please.
When is the story of zero reopening illegal surveillence of Trump after Nov 8 for political purposes going to elicit concern. Weaponizing govt branches to destroy private citizens is the biggest crime in our history. Jell0, explain why that is OK, please.
THIS!
AND...
Where is the liberal outrage about Obama openly trying to influence the Israeli presidential election?
He did hid best to get Benji ousted. Yet liberals are silent on that.
Russia hacked into Hilary's unsecured server and gave that information to Wikileaks. Wikileaks then released the information they received from Klintons unsecured, illegal server to the public and the public didn't like what they saw. Russia and Wikileaks did what journalists used to do before they became the democrats propaganda ministry. All of the information released by Wikileaks was true and the democrats didn't want us to know the truth, fearing that if we knew the truth we'd not vote for a corrupt, lying POS like Hilary. If the democrats really want to pin the blame on someone they should pin it on Comey for stepping outside of his role as FBI director and making decisions that were beyond his pay grade. Ex AG Lynch should never have met with WJC on a private plane during her offices investigation of the Klintons. There's lots of blame to assign and NONE of it is Trumps fault. I am disappointed in Gen. Flynn, I would've thought a guy that served his country in the capacity he did to be more honorable than he proved to be.
JeffO could try to refute the facts I just laid out but he won't because he's a democrat and democrats don't care about the truth, in fact they HATE the truth almost as much as they hate America. It's easier for the democrats to keep yelling and screaming their lies because they think everyone is as gullible and dishonest as they are.
I will say that if Trump colluded with Russia he should be impeached pronto but the facts of the multiple investigations have proven that he DID NOT collude with Russia so anyone that says he did is a lying sack ofshitt. A partisan lying sack ofshitt.
I agree that in some ways, Wikileaks has taken the mantle of what investigative journalists supposedly used to do. The problem is, they aren't journalists, and don't do ALL the things journalists are, in a perfect world, supposed to do. Journalism isn't about info-dumping and it's not about partisan targeted attacks. CLEARLY, some elements of the MSM have lost the right to call themselves non-biased; my wife and I just marveled at the obvious bias in the MSM this election cycle. It was pathetic. I don't like Trump, never have, but in the runup to the election it was shocking how elements of the MSM weren't even trying to act unbiased. There'd be pics of the two candidates, and trump would be in funny colors, weird expression on his face, etc... Clinton would be gloriously lit and staged, red white and blue in the background...
The MSM also did a terrible job of seperating out the wheat from the chaff with the fake news (the real fake news) aimed at Clinton. She's a witch and has done some bad things- but you won't hear much about it on the MSM. The problem is, over on the other side, y'all went poo-flinging-monkey wacko full-retard CRAZY with your accusations and allegations. It was frankly embarrassing to see how easily many folks were hoodwinked by the fake news stuff and by the supposed evidentiary pyramid against her- going back to like Foster and Blackwater- much of which was silly. Not all, but much, and it destroyed the credibility of the alt.right "news".
So we aren't so far apart on all of that, really.
Your last paragraph is where we part ways. The "multiple investigations" have proven no such thing and you are basically making that up- doing what you accuse me of doing. To the contrary, the multiple investigations are ongoing. What has been leaked does not look good for Trump and his associates. Trumps actions look really desperate. I think the reasons it hasn't come to a head yet are that the intel they have, if just laid out, would compromise friendly assets and techniques and they are loathe to do that until/unless they really need to. You know how investigations work. They can know something happened, but to make it stick, they gotta dot i's and cross t's. That's compounded by what I think is also true here- that to just dump the evidence damages their methods and assets. On top of THAT, [bleep] dude, imagine trying to investigate a sitting POTUS!
So, they build the case patiently and with end-arounds. Takes time.
Glad to see we agree that if there was collusion it's impeachable. It'll be interesting to see if any of the dirt sticks to him or if it'll be confined to sacrificial underlings.
The "hacking" of John Podesta's emails wasn't a hack at all. It was a phishing scam. Podesta got a fake 'security alert, change your password now' phishing email that took him to a fake site that looked like a real password reset page. He entered his password to change it and bam!, whoever sent the phishing email got access to ALL of his emails. Podesta is an idiot.
So far we've not seen Julian Assange OR Wikileaks caught in a lie or publishing false information, so when Assange says the Russians didn't give Wikileaks the Podesta emails I will take that at face value until proven otherwise.
Regardless, if it was the Russians, it wouldn't make any difference than had it been Project Veritas' James O'Keefe. Just shedding light on the truth via investigative journalism. It doesn't matter what/who the source is, the info is real.
When is the story of zero reopening illegal surveillence of Trump after Nov 8 for political purposes going to elicit concern. Weaponizing govt branches to destroy private citizens is the biggest crime in our history. Jell0, explain why that is OK, please.
THIS!
AND...
Where is the liberal outrage about Obama openly trying to influence the Israeli presidential election?
He did hid best to get Benji ousted. Yet liberals are silent on that.
Its ok when liberals act like lowlife peices of cchitt, thats what they are.
Pinata night, and as usual jeffo the donkey keeps asking for the beatings to continue,,,
He doesn't consider Jorge a "reasonable man in my book", Wow.
Jeffo is playing us, no other earthly possible explanation.
He's just an idiot. Either because he believes the drivel, or he thinks he'll change anyone's mind here by posting. He should go back to trying to impregnate his dog.
I don't blame Trump for firing Comey. he probably needed firing. But, I sure as heck wish our president would stay the Hell off Twitter and just let this thing go. All he is doing is adding fuel to a fire that the Democrats and the media want to keep burning. So far, my biggest gripe about Trump has been that he does not know when to keep his mouth shut. One can do that and get by in the private sector, one cannot in government and the public sector.
Again with the "Trump's Twitter tweaks my twatter" bovine feces.
I'd rather the media be crying about "Donny two scoops" than mobilizing protests against Sessions' law and order. If Trump's Twitter continues to tweak your twatter I'm guessing you have a hard time figuring out which bathroom to use also. You're probably were right there with Rosie in December calling for Comey to be fired:
The media is going to do what they've always done......report negatively on Trump, regardless of what he does or says. The problem I have is with people like yourself that cannot give any justification whatsoever for Trump acting like a 16 year old kid that just got a new cellphone, and then getting into a pissing war with everyone he disagrees with. If Donald said he liked a turd sandwich, you'd be the first one on here to grab 2 slices of bread and head to the potty. The man was elected president, he needs to act like one.
I don't blame Trump for firing Comey. he probably needed firing. But, I sure as heck wish our president would stay the Hell off Twitter and just let this thing go. All he is doing is adding fuel to a fire that the Democrats and the media want to keep burning. So far, my biggest gripe about Trump has been that he does not know when to keep his mouth shut. One can do that and get by in the private sector, one cannot in government and the public sector.
Again with the "Trump's Twitter tweaks my twatter" bovine feces.
I'd rather the media be crying about "Donny two scoops" than mobilizing protests against Sessions' law and order. If Trump's Twitter continues to tweak your twatter I'm guessing you have a hard time figuring out which bathroom to use also. You're probably were right there with Rosie in December calling for Comey to be fired:
The media is going to do what they've always done......report negatively on Trump, regardless of what he does or says. The problem I have is with people like yourself that cannot give any justification whatsoever for Trump acting like a 16 year old kid that just got a new cellphone, and then getting into a pissing war with everyone he disagrees with. If Donald said he liked a turd sandwich, you'd be the first one on here to grab 2 slices of bread and head to the potty. The man was elected president, he needs to act like one.
Like who? Zero or Dumbya? Andrew Jackson? He fought in several duels.
Russia hacked into Hilary's unsecured server and gave that information to Wikileaks. Wikileaks then released the information they received from Klintons unsecured, illegal server to the public and the public didn't like what they saw. Russia and Wikileaks did what journalists used to do before they became the democrats propaganda ministry. All of the information released by Wikileaks was true and the democrats didn't want us to know the truth, fearing that if we knew the truth we'd not vote for a corrupt, lying POS like Hilary. If the democrats really want to pin the blame on someone they should pin it on Comey for stepping outside of his role as FBI director and making decisions that were beyond his pay grade. Ex AG Lynch should never have met with WJC on a private plane during her offices investigation of the Klintons. There's lots of blame to assign and NONE of it is Trumps fault. I am disappointed in Gen. Flynn, I would've thought a guy that served his country in the capacity he did to be more honorable than he proved to be.
JeffO could try to refute the facts I just laid out but he won't because he's a democrat and democrats don't care about the truth, in fact they HATE the truth almost as much as they hate America. It's easier for the democrats to keep yelling and screaming their lies because they think everyone is as gullible and dishonest as they are.
I will say that if Trump colluded with Russia he should be impeached pronto but the facts of the multiple investigations have proven that he DID NOT collude with Russia so anyone that says he did is a lying sack ofshitt. A partisan lying sack ofshitt.
I agree that in some ways, Wikileaks has taken the mantle of what investigative journalists supposedly used to do. The problem is, they aren't journalists, and don't do ALL the things journalists are, in a perfect world, supposed to do. Journalism isn't about info-dumping and it's not about partisan targeted attacks. CLEARLY, some elements of the MSM have lost the right to call themselves non-biased; my wife and I just marveled at the obvious bias in the MSM this election cycle. It was pathetic. I don't like Trump, never have, but in the runup to the election it was shocking how elements of the MSM weren't even trying to act unbiased. There'd be pics of the two candidates, and trump would be in funny colors, weird expression on his face, etc... Clinton would be gloriously lit and staged, red white and blue in the background...
The MSM also did a terrible job of seperating out the wheat from the chaff with the fake news (the real fake news) aimed at Clinton. She's a witch and has done some bad things- but you won't hear much about it on the MSM. The problem is, over on the other side, y'all went poo-flinging-monkey wacko full-retard CRAZY with your accusations and allegations. It was frankly embarrassing to see how easily many folks were hoodwinked by the fake news stuff and by the supposed evidentiary pyramid against her- going back to like Foster and Blackwater- much of which was silly. Not all, but much, and it destroyed the credibility of the alt.right "news".
So we aren't so far apart on all of that, really.
Your last paragraph is where we part ways. The "multiple investigations" have proven no such thing and you are basically making that up- doing what you accuse me of doing. To the contrary, the multiple investigations are ongoing. What has been leaked does not look good for Trump and his associates. Trumps actions look really desperate. I think the reasons it hasn't come to a head yet are that the intel they have, if just laid out, would compromise friendly assets and techniques and they are loathe to do that until/unless they really need to. You know how investigations work. They can know something happened, but to make it stick, they gotta dot i's and cross t's. That's compounded by what I think is also true here- that to just dump the evidence damages their methods and assets. On top of THAT, [bleep] dude, imagine trying to investigate a sitting POTUS!
So, they build the case patiently and with end-arounds. Takes time.
Glad to see we agree that if there was collusion it's impeachable. It'll be interesting to see if any of the dirt sticks to him or if it'll be confined to sacrificial underlings.
Liberalism is itself a mental disorder, but beyond that, you should go get your head read. Nobody in their right mind keeps coming back to a site where they're not wanted and where they continuously get their ass beaten. Get some help.
17 US Intel agencies think the Russians Hacked our Election. What should we do about that?
Assuming they DID, the "hack" basically consisted of telling the truth of what the Democrats and Hillary were up to. No evidence at all of any collusion with Trump. Exactly what do you think we should be more perturbed about - the complete lack of security by the left, or the acquisition of insecure data by the Russians?
The media is going to do what they've always done......report negatively on Trump, regardless of what he does or says. The problem I have is with people like yourself that cannot give any justification whatsoever for Trump acting like a 16 year old kid that just got a new cellphone, and then getting into a pissing war with everyone he disagrees with. If Donald said he liked a turd sandwich, you'd be the first one on here to grab 2 slices of bread and head to the potty. The man was elected president, he needs to act like one.
Well little Jimmy boy, I'm sorry Trump used Twitter to grab your pussy.
I don't blame Trump for firing Comey. he probably needed firing. But, I sure as heck wish our president would stay the Hell off Twitter and just let this thing go. All he is doing is adding fuel to a fire that the Democrats and the media want to keep burning. So far, my biggest gripe about Trump has been that he does not know when to keep his mouth shut. One can do that and get by in the private sector, one cannot in government and the public sector.
Again with the "Trump's Twitter tweaks my twatter" bovine feces.
I'd rather the media be crying about "Donny two scoops" than mobilizing protests against Sessions' law and order. If Trump's Twitter continues to tweak your twatter I'm guessing you have a hard time figuring out which bathroom to use also. You're probably were right there with Rosie in December calling for Comey to be fired:
The media is going to do what they've always done......report negatively on Trump, regardless of what he does or says. The problem I have is with people like yourself that cannot give any justification whatsoever for Trump acting like a 16 year old kid that just got a new cellphone, and then getting into a pissing war with everyone he disagrees with. If Donald said he liked a turd sandwich, you'd be the first one on here to grab 2 slices of bread and head to the potty. The man was elected president, he needs to act like one.
Trump is driving the libs crazy. See what he did to greyghost and Jell0.
I'm sure Jorge is a good guy. But he routinely misrepresents things I've said in the past, and he was proposing a bet that comes to fruition ~18 months from now, and while I'm happy to make that bet I don't trust him to remember the terms in good faith.
That's what I was saying. Trying to say.
We betting, Jorge? Scroll back for the definition you asked for. Let me know.
JeffO, If you're smart, the terms should include specifying brand, type, and caliber so that you can go out and buy a box now. Prices will likely be higher after another 18 months pass.
17 US Intel agencies think the Russians Hacked our Election. What should we do about that?
So, Zero illegally unmasked Flynn so dumbasses like you would indict Trump as colluding with the Ruskies, knowing dimbasses like you would be to stupid to connect the dots when Clapper, Comey and Rogers said they had not found a hint of collusion.
What we should do is bring Zero up before a grand jury and prosecute him for using US govt agencies in a political manner. We should also get grand jury testimony as to who leaked the info to those agencies up to and including your hero the zero.
I'm sure Jorge is a good guy. But he routinely misrepresents things I've said in the past, and he was proposing a bet that comes to fruition ~18 months from now, and while I'm happy to make that bet I don't trust him to remember the terms in good faith.
That's what I was saying. Trying to say.
We betting, Jorge? Scroll back for the definition you asked for. Let me know.
You seem to be maybe saying, "See what a nice guy I am." After you spout your drizzle that only you can actually believe.
Rational people see right through you and your liberal superiority game of looking down on others. You are the epitome of dumb, ignorant, and uh.........uh, and you're an obnoxious ass because you pride yourself on being an arrogant knowledgeable Liberal while everyone who doesn't agree with your drizzle is stupid. I don't know either of you personally, but from what I see here, Jorge is 10x the man you could ever hope to be in your wildest nut-case fantasies.
JeffO, If you're smart, the terms should include specifying brand, type, and caliber so that you can go out and buy a box now. Prices will likely be higher after another 18 months pass.
He'll be getting off easy on the (5) boxes, since what I use in volume these days are mostly ELD's, and they are about as cheap as it gets!
Want to bet me a box of bullets that before the midterms in 2018, it'll be shown that campaign members were in collusion with Russia?
Define "collusion" and I'll give you 5:1 odds on that bet. If I win, you give me one box and if I lose I'll give you five
Well, you don't qualify as a reasonable man in my book, but we could still do this.
We'd need to really nail things down to avoid potential conflict later.
Here's a few definitions of collusion. First, from Wiki:
Collusion is an agreement between two or more parties, sometimes illegal and therefore secretive, to limit open competition by deceiving, misleading, or defrauding others of their legal rights, or to obtain an objective forbidden by law typically by defrauding or gaining an unfair market advantage.
Here's what is top-of-page with a Google search:
secret or illegal cooperation or conspiracy, especially in order to cheat or deceive others
Here's Webster:
secret agreement or cooperation especially for an illegal or deceitful purpose
Do you see any problems or confusion there? If so let's air that out now.
More to the point is defining a) who was "a member of his campaign" and b) what it means that they are shown to have been in collusion.
For the former, I propose ANYONE who ever had any titular acknowledgement by the campaign, however briefly, or was paid or otherwise compensated by the campaign; or was hired by the campaign; including but not limited to "advisor". Page, Stone, Manafort, Flynn are explicitly included.
For the latter I'd propose that definitive public statements by the intelligence services and/or AG office shall suffice. Of course, any convictions will too. Further, being granted immunity doesn't negate their guilt for our purposes, nor does a presidential pardon.
You still have not answered this simple, elementary question.
You should be easily able to answer it, given that it is indeed your only talking point.
Originally Posted by rockinbbar
Please give us all here a very simple explanation of exactly HOW Russia could have made one iota's difference in the election.
We are waiting....
Just one example. Please.
Please feel free to answer. It's been several days since it was asked of you....
OR... You could just shut up about Trump, Russia, and how the election was stolen, since you have no proof, and you cannot answer the most basic question of all.
You still have not answered this simple, elementary question.
You should be easily able to answer it, given that it is indeed your only talking point.
Originally Posted by rockinbbar
Please give us all here a very simple explanation of exactly HOW Russia could have made one iota's difference in the election.
We are waiting....
Just one example. Please.
Please feel free to answer. It's been several days since it was asked of you....
OR... You could just shut up about Trump, Russia, and how the election was stolen, since you have no proof, and you cannot answer the most basic question of all.
I have NEVER said it was stolen. Dare ya to prove otherwise.
Russia did affect it. "I was there". Apparently you weren't?
That's not the point anyway. What's done is done, and it's not like I wanted Clinton to win, either. What matters now is knowing if POTUS is compromised.
You still have not answered this simple, elementary question.
You should be easily able to answer it, given that it is indeed your only talking point.
Originally Posted by rockinbbar
Please give us all here a very simple explanation of exactly HOW Russia could have made one iota's difference in the election.
We are waiting....
Just one example. Please.
Please feel free to answer. It's been several days since it was asked of you....
OR... You could just shut up about Trump, Russia, and how the election was stolen, since you have no proof, and you cannot answer the most basic question of all.
I have NEVER said it was stolen. Dare ya to prove otherwise.
Russia did affect it. "I was there". Apparently you weren't?
That's not the point anyway. What's done is done, and it's not like I wanted Clinton to win, either. What matters now is knowing if POTUS is compromised.
Jello, I highly doubt that you've known where you are since you discovered your first bong shop. What a douche.
Exactly HOW did Russia affect the outcome of the election?
I'm among retards.
Figure it out yourself. I'm just here to see if Jorge was serious about that bet.
I HAVE figured it out. It's you liberals that don't get it.
The Russians in no way could have affected the outcome of the election.
They didn't hack anything.
If Podesta fell for a phishing scheme, no matter where it came from, that exposed the dirty truth about how democrats were sabotaging their own party, and disrupting Trump rallies, then that was of their own doing.
Russia very simply has not been proven to have any role. But, even if they did, the blame lies squarely on the shoulders of Hillary and the rest of the crooked, nasty democrats.
what have you done that borders on the superhuman? I have friends that are liberal, and we agree to disagree. However when the discussion does arise most of their points are based on feelings and some "truth" some mainstream anti trump, anti constitution, media report. What have you done Jeff?
This is getting good. Gotta watch out for those rough and tumble real estate salesmen, they'll get you. I'm just a dirty fisherman, who fishes some of the most historic, rugged alaskan coast all year.
This is getting good. Gotta watch out for those rough and tumble real estate salesmen, they'll get you. I'm just a dirty fisherman, who fishes some of the most historic, rugged alaskan coast all year.
"After the events of the past week I really have an open mind as to whether or not we need some extraordinary structure," he said. Hayden said he believed something was needed to reach "the criminal resolution," of whether a crime had been committed during Trump's presidential campaign, but also so the American people could "fully understand the totality of what happened here."
But, as you guys doth protest so much, nothing happened here.
"After the events of the past week I really have an open mind as to whether or not we need some extraordinary structure," he said. Hayden said he believed something was needed to reach "the criminal resolution," of whether a crime had been committed during Trump's presidential campaign, but also so the American people could "fully understand the totality of what happened here."
But, as you guys doth protest so much, nothing happened here.
Hayden states he has an open mind, and also of whether a crime was committed,
and in your biased mind you concluded that interview was a statement acknowledging wrong doing?
I bet you gloat over most anything you do. Even something as simple as taking a crap is probably a "gloatable event" for you.
What I've done in the last half-decade borders on the superhuman and you throw my age into the equation and even more so.
That's not gloating. It's the truth. Y'all keyboard cowboys talk a big game. I walk it.
Jeff, Please tell us about your superhuman feats? If you share yours I will share mine and see who is superhuman. Hell maybe others will weigh in with their feats? Oh and I am the same age as you, so no advantage there.
"After the events of the past week I really have an open mind as to whether or not we need some extraordinary structure," he said. Hayden said he believed something was needed to reach "the criminal resolution," of whether a crime had been committed during Trump's presidential campaign, but also so the American people could "fully understand the totality of what happened here."
But, as you guys doth protest so much, nothing happened here.
LOL ..Trump "loses" Hayden ?
what makes you think Trump ever "had" him ?
Hayden is on the payroll at CNN...he will tell them what he thinks they want to hear
Jeff, Please tell us about your superhuman feats? If you share yours I will share mine and see who is superhuman. Hell maybe others will weigh in with their feats? Oh and I am the same age as you, so no advantage there.
Everyone hold the fugck on, I got this!
ifrubar, Jeff's superhuman feats stem from falling off a ladder and getting PTSD, then growing pot and smoking it to help with said PTSD.
Jeff, Please tell us about your superhuman feats? If you share yours I will share mine and see who is superhuman. Hell maybe others will weigh in with their feats? Oh and I am the same age as you, so no advantage there.
Everyone hold the fugck on, I got this!
ifrubar, Jeff's superhuman feats stem from falling off a ladder and getting PTSD, then growing pot and smoking it to help with said PTSD.
Bigfish that's some funny shiit! But I am curious what constitutes superhuman in Jeffo world, so dont spook the hole.
Ok Jello, Let me guess, you built a shop on your property installed a lathe and are now making bicycle parts? Is that the superhuman feat you are referring to? Now be honest
"After the events of the past week I really have an open mind as to whether or not we need some extraordinary structure," he said. Hayden said he believed something was needed to reach "the criminal resolution," of whether a crime had been committed during Trump's presidential campaign, but also so the American people could "fully understand the totality of what happened here."
But, as you guys doth protest so much, nothing happened here.
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LOL ..Trump "loses" Hayden ?
what makes you think Trump ever "had" him ?
Hayden is on the payroll at CNN...he will tell them what he thinks they want to hear
Dont be sacreligious. He worships Christs News Network.
Russia hacked into Hilary's unsecured server and gave that information to Wikileaks. Wikileaks then released the information they received from Klintons unsecured, illegal server to the public and the public didn't like what they saw. Russia and Wikileaks did what journalists used to do before they became the democrats propaganda ministry. All of the information released by Wikileaks was true and the democrats didn't want us to know the truth, fearing that if we knew the truth we'd not vote for a corrupt, lying POS like Hilary. If the democrats really want to pin the blame on someone they should pin it on Comey for stepping outside of his role as FBI director and making decisions that were beyond his pay grade. Ex AG Lynch should never have met with WJC on a private plane during her offices investigation of the Klintons. There's lots of blame to assign and NONE of it is Trumps fault. I am disappointed in Gen. Flynn, I would've thought a guy that served his country in the capacity he did to be more honorable than he proved to be.
JeffO could try to refute the facts I just laid out but he won't because he's a democrat and democrats don't care about the truth, in fact they HATE the truth almost as much as they hate America. It's easier for the democrats to keep yelling and screaming their lies because they think everyone is as gullible and dishonest as they are.
I will say that if Trump colluded with Russia he should be impeached pronto but the facts of the multiple investigations have proven that he DID NOT collude with Russia so anyone that says he did is a lying sack ofshitt. A partisan lying sack ofshitt.
I agree that in some ways, Wikileaks has taken the mantle of what investigative journalists supposedly used to do. The problem is, they aren't journalists, and don't do ALL the things journalists are, in a perfect world, supposed to do. Journalism isn't about info-dumping and it's not about partisan targeted attacks. CLEARLY, some elements of the MSM have lost the right to call themselves non-biased; my wife and I just marveled at the obvious bias in the MSM this election cycle. It was pathetic. I don't like Trump, never have, but in the runup to the election it was shocking how elements of the MSM weren't even trying to act unbiased. There'd be pics of the two candidates, and trump would be in funny colors, weird expression on his face, etc... Clinton would be gloriously lit and staged, red white and blue in the background...
The MSM also did a terrible job of seperating out the wheat from the chaff with the fake news (the real fake news) aimed at Clinton. She's a witch and has done some bad things- but you won't hear much about it on the MSM. The problem is, over on the other side, y'all went poo-flinging-monkey wacko full-retard CRAZY with your accusations and allegations. It was frankly embarrassing to see how easily many folks were hoodwinked by the fake news stuff and by the supposed evidentiary pyramid against her- going back to like Foster and Blackwater- much of which was silly. Not all, but much, and it destroyed the credibility of the alt.right "news".
So we aren't so far apart on all of that, really.
Your last paragraph is where we part ways. The "multiple investigations" have proven no such thing and you are basically making that up- doing what you accuse me of doing. To the contrary, the multiple investigations are ongoing. What has been leaked does not look good for Trump and his associates. Trumps actions look really desperate. I think the reasons it hasn't come to a head yet are that the intel they have, if just laid out, would compromise friendly assets and techniques and they are loathe to do that until/unless they really need to. You know how investigations work. They can know something happened, but to make it stick, they gotta dot i's and cross t's. That's compounded by what I think is also true here- that to just dump the evidence damages their methods and assets. On top of THAT, [bleep] dude, imagine trying to investigate a sitting POTUS!
So, they build the case patiently and with end-arounds. Takes time.
Glad to see we agree that if there was collusion it's impeachable. It'll be interesting to see if any of the dirt sticks to him or if it'll be confined to sacrificial underlings.
Clapper has not said he’s satisfied there was no wrongdoing. In a report published at the end of the Obama administration, Clapper said no coordination between the Trump campaign and Russia had been established from a review of evidence available to him by that point. But his report focused on what was known by then about Russia’s cyber actions and propaganda against Hillary Clinton, not about contacts between Trump associates and Russia.
Clapper expanded on that point Sunday, saying he did not know at the time that the FBI was digging deeply into “potential political collusion between the Trump campaign and the Russians,” and he was unaware of what the bureau might have found.
“There was no evidence of any collusion included in that report,” he told ABC’s “This Week,” meaning his report. “That’s not to say there wasn’t evidence.”
Clapper has not said he’s satisfied there was no wrongdoing. In a report published at the end of the Obama administration, Clapper said no coordination between the Trump campaign and Russia had been established from a review of evidence available to him by that point. But his report focused on what was known by then about Russia’s cyber actions and propaganda against Hillary Clinton, not about contacts between Trump associates and Russia.
Clapper expanded on that point Sunday, saying he did not know at the time that the FBI was digging deeply into “potential political collusion between the Trump campaign and the Russians,” and he was unaware of what the bureau might have found.
“There was no evidence of any collusion included in that report,” he told ABC’s “This Week,” meaning his report. “That’s not to say there wasn’t evidence.”
Ahhhhhh! He's back and he's simply as ignorant, arrogant, and as biased (read as meaning simple minded) as he's always been.
The Superhuman man machine. Are you creating anything Uber today?
Clapper has not said he’s satisfied there was no wrongdoing. In a report published at the end of the Obama administration, Clapper said no coordination between the Trump campaign and Russia had been established from a review of evidence available to him by that point. But his report focused on what was known by then about Russia’s cyber actions and propaganda against Hillary Clinton, not about contacts between Trump associates and Russia.
Clapper expanded on that point Sunday, saying he did not know at the time that the FBI was digging deeply into “potential political collusion between the Trump campaign and the Russians,” and he was unaware of what the bureau might have found.
“There was no evidence of any collusion included in that report,” he told ABC’s “This Week,” meaning his report. “That’s not to say there wasn’t evidence.”
Jell0, you an starglazer and lostindahiway and, well, that other, oh yeah, grey ghost are just all geniuses while the other 99% of us are dumbasses. Its only by the grace of God you all arent world famous entraprenures, heart surgeons or brain surgeons. We are just too dumb to match your wit, and thus consider you to be full of chitt.
The biggest reason he was fired? Try this on for size. Trump discovered that the FBI has been sitting on thousands of emails between Seth Rich and Wikileaks while simultaneously refusing to outright [bleep] the "muh Russians" narrative. The FBI has had the proof from the start that Rich was the leaker and that there were no Russians and Comey has not only been covering it up, he has been talking up a narrative he knew to be false.
Funny how only a week or so after his firing federal law enforcement sources are coming out of the woodwork to tell us that Rich was in contact with Wikileaks and that they have known this from more or less the start.
The biggest reason he was fired? Try this on for size. Trump discovered that the FBI has been sitting on thousands of emails between Seth Rich and Wikileaks while simultaneously refusing to outright [bleep] the "muh Russians" narrative. The FBI has had the proof from the start that Rich was the leaker and that there were no Russians and Comey has not only been covering it up, he has been talking up a narrative he knew to be false.
Funny how only a week or so after his firing federal law enforcement sources are coming out of the woodwork to tell us that Rich was in contact with Wikileaks and that they have known this from more or less the start.
A much simpler answer is that Comey betrayed the country by saying that Hillary was guilty of the crime of mishandling classified information, but shouldn't be prosecution because she had not criminal intent. The last was a lie because the statute states that criminal intent isn't a requirement for conviction.
Originally Posted by hatari
Have you considered a very practical reason to get rid of Comey?
Think about this. Trump slides into office and finds that people working in the highest levels of government are all appointed by Obama, and are political partisan hacks leaking info and put in place to 1.) aid Hillary, but she's not on office 2.) are now Partisans acting as saboteurs "behind enemy lines"
Trump realizes that he must clean house. He gets the word from Sessions that Comey is not going to help, and will probably protect those imbedded, and needs to go.
This is all very plausible. For those of you not happy with Trump's progress so far, take this scenario to heart. Obama appointed a lot of little Progressive, Socialist anti-Capitalist bastards throughout the government and to the courts. The can do massive damage and it might be a monumental undertaking to clean that Obama crap up. In doing so, Trump can restock the government with people not bent on the destruction of America as we know. First, get someone at the FBI that will follow the Rule of law and not the Rule of Partisans, second, clean out the moles, leakers, and Progressive operatives still working for Obama, Clinton and Soros and that cause.
"Erickson knows one of the sources and supports their decision to go to the media, he wrote Tuesday in a blog post for his website, The Resurgent. “This is a real problem and I treat this story very seriously because I know just how credible, competent, and serious — as well as seriously pro-Trump, at least one of the sources is,” Erickson wrote. “You can call these sources disloyal, traitors, or whatever you want,” he added. “But please ask yourself a question — if the President, through inexperience and ignorance, is jeopardizing our national security and will not take advice or corrective action, what other means are available to get the President to listen and recognize the error of his ways?”
While I personally oppose some of Trumps campaign planks, such as the retarded wall, I support others and was hoping that he'd turn out to do at least SOME good things. But my biggest concern was that his personality and persona were utterly unsuited for this job. The guy is a consummate bullshitter and that, plus a couple hundred million $$ stake from Daddy, allowed him to do some impressive things in the business world. The bullshitting also served him well on the campaign trail, where he was able to play on the fears and despair of a segment of society in real trouble by making completely farcical promises that they (looking at some of YOU!) lapped up like pablum. But in the office of POTUS itself, it's a [bleep] disaster. It's worse than I'd imagined it could be. He has apparently risen to his level of incompetence.
The other thing Trump has made a career out of is playing loose with the truth, then using his vast resources to smother the other guy in court if necessary.
That mentality will [bleep] him up the big orange ass in government. His "tapes" threat is gonna bite him. They'll be subpoenad. And this. FBI notes and memos are admissible in court. D'oh!
Anyone hear the annoying sound of buzzing coming from a total moron that is lucky he can walk and chew gum at the same time? Lots of blah blah blah Trump is going down. Blah blah blather. JFC man can you learn to STFU once and awhile?
The other thing Trump has made a career out of is playing loose with the truth, then using his vast resources to smother the other guy in court if necessary.
That mentality will [bleep] him up the big orange ass in government. His "tapes" threat is gonna bite him. They'll be subpoenad. And this. FBI notes and memos are admissible in court. D'oh!
Not for you. You will be a Trump birther, every week seeking and having hope that some "Miracle" will undo this election. I should have compassion over the obvious emotional anguish that you are currently suffering from. However, I am enjoying your dilemma just as you would revele should HRC the First have ascended to her rightful throne. Pfffft!
I didn't vote for Hillary, and am glad we got a Republican in the WH for the SCOTUS nominations at a minimum. I don't want to reverse the election. This isn't about that.
Fake news is a hot mess. Take the side of those who slander and bear false witness. You think we didnt know which way you would go? When our country is down, help and grind its only hope down.
Fake news is a hot mess. Take the side of those who slander and bear false witness. You think we didnt know which way you would go? When our country is down, help and grind its only hope down.
THIS might be the scariest thing yet. You know how markets almost have an intelligence to them when viewed from a macro perspective? Let's hope this isn't a case of that.
Comey's memo is a Very Big Deal, and we are just on the front edge of this.... remember a few pages back when I told you guys firing him was a huge tactical mistake. Well... so far, I'm right. Mr. Impulsive vs. Mr. Meticulous ain't gonna end well for the former.
Fricking COMEY is gonna go down in history... weird, weird [bleep].
Robert Mueller was just appointed by the DOJ as special cousel to take over the Russia probe., Mueller is the former FBI Director.
A man on impeccable reputation and integrity, there won't be a single complaint of his appointment from the Congress...if he finds nothing, there is nothing to find...case closed.
If Comey wrote Himself a memo about Trump trying to interfere with an investigation, instead of reporting it to the DOJ, He better run home and tear it up, or else He will be the one in prison. miles
If Comey wrote Himself a memo about Trump trying to interfere with an investigation, instead of reporting it to the DOJ, He better run home and tear it up, or else He will be the one in prison. miles
One report said that he shared the memo with senior employees of the FBI, but since he didn't fill out a form reporting it as intimidation or coercion, it appears as if he didn't consider Trumps remarks to be that.
But.....it was stupid of Trump to make the remarks and even more stupid to hint at tape recordings.
Seems that given his personality, this sort of stuff was very predictable. In FACT... some of us did just that.
Still a total bummer and if the great populist movement of the last century goes as far south as this is starting to look like it's gonna, that just sucks. As Bannon put it, Trump is an imperfect vessel... boy oh boy does that appear to be the case.
Seems that given his personality, this sort of stuff was very predictable. In FACT... some of us did just that.
Still a total bummer and if the great populist movement of the last century goes as far south as this is starting to look like it's gonna, that just sucks. As Bannon put it, Trump is an imperfect vessel... boy oh boy does that appear to be the case.
A personality like Comey who takes the heat off Atty Gen in protecting Hillary?
Anyone can see that the "is Putin paying Trump" thing is BS. Trump doesn't need money. Maybe Putin has some dirt on Trump, but until that's verified, it's just speculation with little behind it. Some of these other allegations might have traction, but it remains to be seen. At this time it's all hat no cattle - but it should be looked in to diligently to either restore confidence in the President or to bury him - based on facts rather than wishful thinking. The problem with a lot of this kind of issue is that both sides are so entrenched that it's not about facts or truth, it's about being a believer. A believer believes everything that backs up his beliefs and ignores everything that contradicts them. There's no point in talking to believers of either side of an issue like this.
Anyone can see that the "is Putin paying Trump" thing is BS. Trump doesn't need money. Maybe Putin has some dirt on Trump, but until that's verified, it's just speculation with little behind it. Some of these other allegations might have traction, but it remains to be seen. At this time it's all hat no cattle - but it should be looked in to diligently to either restore confidence in the President or to bury him - based on facts rather than wishful thinking. The problem with a lot of this kind of issue is that both sides are so entrenched that it's not about facts or truth, it's about being a believer. A believer believes everything that backs up his beliefs and ignores everything that contradicts them. There's no point in talking to believers of either side of an issue like this.
Mr. Trump is discovering what it means to get boxed in by your own words, something he's avoided his whole personal-responsibility-dodging life, and something which will only get worse as he continues to, well, utter impulsive Trumpian words. My first reaction was that this article was reaching, but on reflection, the author kinda has a point. Comey's memos will be granted a high level of credibility, but it's still a he said/she said affair... which brings up the "tapes".
I think it's Mr. Trump who better hope that no "tapes" exist of their conversations. However, I suspect they do.
Here you go, dope smoking moron, right from Comey's testimony to the Senate and available on the net. An excerpt: "On May 3rd, FBI director James Comey, under oath, testified that he had not experienced any attempts to stop the FBI from doing any investigation. That's after Trump supposedly expressed hope he could drop it, which this unconfirmed memo nobody's ever seen supposedly, maybe, could say"
Mr. Trump is discovering what it means to get boxed in by your own words, something he's avoided his whole personal-responsibility-dodging life, and something which will only get worse as he continues to, well, utter impulsive Trumpian words. My first reaction was that this article was reaching, but on reflection, the author kinda has a point. Comey's memos will be granted a high level of credibility, but it's still a he said/she said affair... which brings up the "tapes".
I think it's Mr. Trump who better hope that no "tapes" exist of their conversations. However, I suspect they do.
Stock market up and stable on Thursday. The "Fear Index" drops again to low levels. Looks like it was a one-day storm that's already blown over.
What fake accusation from an anonymous/unknown/unsubstantiated source will the Democrats dream up next?
When will the Democrats stop playing Chicken Little and actually do something with teeth in it, if they've got it?
When will the American-voter tide turn against the Democrats wholesale due to their constant fake reports?
Which big-name Democrats are going to be taken down by the Special Counsel, since they have provable ties to most of the accusations made against their political foes?
Sweet mother of GOD.... he's saying this to the RUSSIANS? And giving them uber-secret info? This whole Trumpian 3-D chess thing is so... opaque to a retard such as myself.
Both of these articles are from sources that have pledged their honor to keep secrets. Not to mention that they would be subject to criminal prosecution. So from the get-go the sources are suspect. Also, neither article says they have copies or transcripts to verify that these allegations are true. The source that says a highly placed official is a person of interest, even if true, will not touch President Trump. However, if President Trump did say to the Russians that he fired Comey to slow down the investigation, then that would be obstruction and a very serious matter. I truly doubt that Trump is so stupid that he would have said such a thing. As a businessman he is used to making sure he does not paint himself into a corner he can't get out of. That's just business 101. Always leave an exit. So, until they have verified hard copies of the Comey notes, and the Russian conversation, what we have is hearsay, and that is a no starter in any court.
"I just fired the head of the F.B.I. He was crazy, a real nut job,’ Mr. Trump said, according to the document, which was read to The New York Times by an American official. ‘I faced great pressure because of Russia. That’s taken off.’ Mr. Trump added, ‘I’m not under investigation.’ "
"Leave aside, for a moment, that the president has added "nut job" to "showboat" and "grandstander" to the list of terms he's used to refer to the former FBI director. Trump told senior Russian officials, in the Oval Office, that he fired Comey to relieve the pressure of an investigation into whether their government was colluding with his campaign. Like so many things coming out of the White House lately, this seems both sinister and utterly moronic. But the takeaway, as it has been for some time, is that the president's primary consideration in firing the FBI director was the FBI's Russia investigation"
As I said back with this story broke.......... HUGE tactical error on Trumps part firing Comey. Out come the sharp knives, and no more slow-playing things... hang onto your hats boys...
Sweet mother of GOD.... he's saying this to the RUSSIANS? And giving them uber-secret info? This whole Trumpian 3-D chess thing is so... opaque to a retard such as myself.
Jeff, were either you or the NYTimes in that meeting? Because that is the only way you would know what was said, and for fact NYTimes was not there. Do all demoncraps believe in fairy tails? (intentional, think about it).
Ok jello I will make you a bet. If trump gets impeached I will let you kick me in the ballz. On the other hand if he doesn't I get to fly to your location and beat the sense into that your mother never did. Because you sir are the dumbest mfer I have ever saw. I spent 20 years working on not beating the [bleep] out of morons like you and you have erased that hard work in a millisecond. I thought some of the other campfire trolls were annoying but jfc you take the cake. Please do yourself a favor and learn to stfu.
"I just fired the head of the F.B.I. He was crazy, a real nut job,’ Mr. Trump said, according to the document, which was read to The New York Times by an American official. ‘I faced great pressure because of Russia. That’s taken off.’ Mr. Trump added, ‘I’m not under investigation.’ "
"Leave aside, for a moment, that the president has added "nut job" to "showboat" and "grandstander" to the list of terms he's used to refer to the former FBI director. Trump told senior Russian officials, in the Oval Office, that he fired Comey to relieve the pressure of an investigation into whether their government was colluding with his campaign. Like so many things coming out of the White House lately, this seems both sinister and utterly moronic. But the takeaway, as it has been for some time, is that the president's primary consideration in firing the FBI director was the FBI's Russia investigation"
As I said back with this story broke.......... HUGE tactical error on Trumps part firing Comey. Out come the sharp knives, and no more slow-playing things... hang onto your hats boys...
Source? NONE. Keep swallowing, you must like it. What bet? I'm game
"I just fired the head of the F.B.I. He was crazy, a real nut job,’ Mr. Trump said, according to the document, which was read to The New York Times by an American official. ‘I faced great pressure because of Russia. That’s taken off.’ Mr. Trump added, ‘I’m not under investigation.’ "
"Leave aside, for a moment, that the president has added "nut job" to "showboat" and "grandstander" to the list of terms he's used to refer to the former FBI director. Trump told senior Russian officials, in the Oval Office, that he fired Comey to relieve the pressure of an investigation into whether their government was colluding with his campaign. Like so many things coming out of the White House lately, this seems both sinister and utterly moronic. But the takeaway, as it has been for some time, is that the president's primary consideration in firing the FBI director was the FBI's Russia investigation"
As I said back with this story broke.......... HUGE tactical error on Trumps part firing Comey. Out come the sharp knives, and no more slow-playing things... hang onto your hats boys...
Source? NONE. Keep swallowing, you must like it. What bet? I'm game
The bet you proposed, or is that memory lost in the bottle?
"I just fired the head of the F.B.I. He was crazy, a real nut job,’ Mr. Trump said, according to the document, which was read to The New York Times by an American official. ‘I faced great pressure because of Russia. That’s taken off.’ Mr. Trump added, ‘I’m not under investigation.’ "
"Leave aside, for a moment, that the president has added "nut job" to "showboat" and "grandstander" to the list of terms he's used to refer to the former FBI director. Trump told senior Russian officials, in the Oval Office, that he fired Comey to relieve the pressure of an investigation into whether their government was colluding with his campaign. Like so many things coming out of the White House lately, this seems both sinister and utterly moronic. But the takeaway, as it has been for some time, is that the president's primary consideration in firing the FBI director was the FBI's Russia investigation"
As I said back with this story broke.......... HUGE tactical error on Trumps part firing Comey. Out come the sharp knives, and no more slow-playing things... hang onto your hats boys...
Source? NONE. Keep swallowing, you must like it. What bet? I'm game
The bet you proposed, or is that memory lost in the bottle?
You push yourself as being an excellent judge of others, Jello, but you can't see yourself in a mirror apparently. "Lost in the bottle"? Why make accusations about someone you know next to nothing about? It verifies you out to be the dick wad that you are every time you post here......an ignorant and arrogant dick wad at that.
As hard as you're wacking it right now, Jello, you're going to need some hand cream for your hands and your dick. What a loser!
Never said I was an excellent judge of others. I've said that you guys are blinded by partisanship and the echo-chamber you get your "news" from to the point you are missing shītloads obvious signs here. Stuff you'd be ALL OVER if the R & D before the names was swapped.
Beyond that-- talk to the hand, bayou, 'cause IDGAF what you think about me. Like this place is some sort of bastion of civil debate. Puh-leeze. Turnabout is fair play.
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Interesting that Kushner is trying to prevent Mueller from investigating him... wonder if Justice will grant Mueller the waiver?
I'm still wrapping my brain around if Kushner was the Russia contact point. That would be... huge. I could see Trump pleading plausible deniability with most of the other guys who's names keep coming up... but not his SIL.
Never said I was an excellent judge of others. I've said that you guys are blinded by partisanship and the echo-chamber you get your "news" from to the point you are missing shītloads obvious signs here. Stuff you'd be ALL OVER if the R & D before the names was swapped.
Beyond that-- talk to the hand, bayou, 'cause IDGAF what you think about me. Like this place is some sort of bastion of civil debate. Puh-leeze. Turnabout is fair play.
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Interesting that Kushner is trying to prevent Mueller from investigating him... wonder if Justice will grant Mueller the waiver?
I'm still wrapping my brain around if Kushner was the Russia contact point. That would be... huge. I could see Trump pleading plausible deniability with most of the other guys who's names keep coming up... but not his SIL.
Time to change your bong water, dude. And grease up the old hand. It's obviously chafing you a bit.
You can't wrap zero around anything. Its physically and rhetorically impossible.
"I just fired the head of the F.B.I. He was crazy, a real nut job,’ Mr. Trump said, according to the document, which was read to The New York Times by an American official. ‘I faced great pressure because of Russia. That’s taken off.’ Mr. Trump added, ‘I’m not under investigation.’ "
"Leave aside, for a moment, that the president has added "nut job" to "showboat" and "grandstander" to the list of terms he's used to refer to the former FBI director. Trump told senior Russian officials, in the Oval Office, that he fired Comey to relieve the pressure of an investigation into whether their government was colluding with his campaign. Like so many things coming out of the White House lately, this seems both sinister and utterly moronic. But the takeaway, as it has been for some time, is that the president's primary consideration in firing the FBI director was the FBI's Russia investigation"
As I said back with this story broke.......... HUGE tactical error on Trumps part firing Comey. Out come the sharp knives, and no more slow-playing things... hang onto your hats boys...
Source? NONE. Keep swallowing, you must like it. What bet? I'm game
The bet you proposed, or is that memory lost in the bottle?
No one would bet on what Mueller would come up with or fabricate, as a close , longtime friend of Comeys or an apparent muzzy sympathizer, which probably means hes a deep state liar.
One thing I've been saying since the beginning, but haven't in a while, is not to forget who's winning here. Because it ain't me, it ain't any of you, it ain't Trump, it ain't the FBI... we have have been absolutely punked by Vladimir Putin, yet again. Think about it. Look at the position this has put you guys in: you are openly defending a president who has strong indications of colluding with our #1 global rival. Partisanship prevents most of you from even acknowledging the possibility despite overwhelming indications to the contrary. That's insane on the face of it. It's frankly indefensible. Yet, here we are. Arguing about what it even means to be an American, with CONSERVATIVES of all people defending what would be deeply un-American, treasonous behavior. Putin is laughing his ass off, and this [bleep] is far from over. It's gonna get worse, much worse.
"Stone, who is being investigated by the FBI as part of its investigation into contacts between the Trump campaign and Russians, spoke to Trump after Comey testified at a hearing on Capitol Hill earlier this month, the source said. Trump pushed back against these reports, denouncing them as "fake news" and tweeting that he had "not spoken to Roger in a long time." A White House spokesperson reiterated the President's assertion that he has not spoken to Stone in a while, adding, "The President has not spoken to Roger Stone in many months and any reports suggesting otherwise are categorically untrue." In a tweet, Stone, too, pushed back on reports that he "urged" Trump to fire Comey, but added that he supported the decision "100%." He contradicted the President's claim, however, that the two had not talked "in many months," telling ABC's "The View" last week that they had spoken "very recently.""
Somebody is lying.... does Trump not realize that his credibility, what's left of the tattered shards of it, would be toast with the simple proof that this conversation occurred? Does he not realize that there are records of such things when, oh I dunno, you are both being investigated by the FBI?
1) Jeff0: The guy who takes EVERY leak negative to Trump as gospel. This would mean DC, the intelligence community, FBI, IRS, etc and Trump's admin are chock full of people leaking damaging info to the press.
2) Jeff0: The guy who can't make the cognitive jump to see that if anyone in DC, the intelligence community, FBI, IRS, etc and Trump's admin actually had any damaging evidence about nefarious, illicit, illegal, etc behavior by Trump and team it would have already been leaked.
Instead Jeff0 and fellow communist sympathizers can't post enough on here about how Trump is finished. These were the same people (I'm talking to you too Jordan Funk because I know you're reading this while getting head form an inmate) who said -Trump can't get the nomination -Trump can't get to 30% -Trump has no path to victory/Trump can't win -The electoral college won't elect him
I never get tired of saying it. PRESIDENT OF THE UNTIED STATES DONALD JOHN TRUMP!!
Nice try jag. Basically you are already making excuses for what you know damn well Mueller will find.
Sorry, Jello. Unlike your lieberal pals i never knowingly lie. I know being you, you can not believe that. Its a curse that liars can never be able to believe another human being, as its a common human weakness that they project their own shortcommings onto others.
This dumb fug, from your main 'man' is why i said what i said. See if you can get a clue. See, i believe the POS, because with the people i spend my time with, i generally get the truth, except when dealing with lying pukes like you and your crew.
Why dont you just for once be a man and be honest and tell the truth. Admit your elementary school teachers and msm told you us Rs want to poison the world and kill your granny and Rs are mean and you will never believe anything else. At least then we could have a reason to blame your stupidity on brainwashing rather than think you have no mental capacity for deductive reasoning.
Here's the other looming credibility-test for Mr. Trump.
"....Trump was asked whether he had asked Comey to end the investigation into Flynn. "No. No. Next question," he responded, four words upon which the credibility and viability of his presidency now rest."
The problem with this stuff is, if he gets caught in these direct contradictions, even you guys will be forced to acknowledge that the guy is a big, fat liar. Once he gets to that point- I mean, really, for 2/3 of us he's already there, but once his dishonestly penetrates into his hard core of support, he's toast, because the R's in congress will no longer be able to tie THEIR credidibility to his, and will stop shielding him.
Beyond that is simply the idea that POTUS's can't get repeatedly caught in bald-faced lies. R or D.
Would that be the same bunch that knows that global warming is based on irrefutable, settled science? I believe, but not sure that you were on that wagon too. Even if Comey has a memo, that He wrote after meeting with Trump, it means nothing without more proof. He can write what He wants, as can I, but my notes would mean about the same as His. You have already gotten Trump convicted and sentenced without one shred of proof. If I am ever on trial, I hope that I can get you kicked off of the Jury, should you be there. Idiot. miles
Here's the other looming credibility-test for Mr. Trump.
"....Trump was asked whether he had asked Comey to end the investigation into Flynn. "No. No. Next question," he responded, four words upon which the credibility and viability of his presidency now rest."
The problem with this stuff is, if he gets caught in these direct contradictions, even you guys will be forced to acknowledge that the guy is a big, fat liar. Once he gets to that point- I mean, really, for 2/3 of us he's already there, but once his dishonestly penetrates into his hard core of support, he's toast, because the R's in congress will no longer be able to tie THEIR credidibility to his, and will stop shielding him.
Beyond that is simply the idea that POTUS's can't get repeatedly caught in bald-faced lies. R or D.
It's true that R's in congress will ultimately back away and allow justice to be served.
But it's also true that those that support him will never back away from him. They are iron pegs hammered into the frozen ground, immovable.
Trump could be executed by firing squad for treason and they will call it fake news.
Here's the other looming credibility-test for Mr. Trump.
"....Trump was asked whether he had asked Comey to end the investigation into Flynn. "No. No. Next question," he responded, four words upon which the credibility and viability of his presidency now rest."
The problem with this stuff is, if he gets caught in these direct contradictions, even you guys will be forced to acknowledge that the guy is a big, fat liar. Once he gets to that point- I mean, really, for 2/3 of us he's already there, but once his dishonestly penetrates into his hard core of support, he's toast, because the R's in congress will no longer be able to tie THEIR credidibility to his, and will stop shielding him.
Beyond that is simply the idea that POTUS's can't get repeatedly caught in bald-faced lies. R or D.
It's true that R's in congress will ultimately back away and allow justice to be served.
But it's also true that those that support him will never back away from him. They are iron pegs hammered into the frozen ground, immovable.
Trump could be executed by firing squad for treason and they will call it fake news.
You and JeffO are a force to be reckoned with that's fo sho.
Here's the other looming credibility-test for Mr. Trump.
"....Trump was asked whether he had asked Comey to end the investigation into Flynn. "No. No. Next question," he responded, four words upon which the credibility and viability of his presidency now rest."
The problem with this stuff is, if he gets caught in these direct contradictions, even you guys will be forced to acknowledge that the guy is a big, fat liar. Once he gets to that point- I mean, really, for 2/3 of us he's already there, but once his dishonestly penetrates into his hard core of support, he's toast, because the R's in congress will no longer be able to tie THEIR credidibility to his, and will stop shielding him.
Beyond that is simply the idea that POTUS's can't get repeatedly caught in bald-faced lies. R or D.
Never seen anyone so jealous, so resentful as you with Trump.
Also never seen anyone one run with so many assumptions, wild ass accusations and just plain ignorance.
Trump's living in your head, and your paying Trump Tower top floor rent. Hopefully it will consume you.
Again, you took a few years to "get your head right" while O was in office, and now your here daily to spew your garbage,
exactly, who, do you think you're convincing of anything?
I'll repeat myself, you've gone from awkward to embarrassing.
Here's the other looming credibility-test for Mr. Trump.
"....Trump was asked whether he had asked Comey to end the investigation into Flynn. "No. No. Next question," he responded, four words upon which the credibility and viability of his presidency now rest."
The problem with this stuff is, if he gets caught in these direct contradictions, even you guys will be forced to acknowledge that the guy is a big, fat liar. Once he gets to that point- I mean, really, for 2/3 of us he's already there, but once his dishonestly penetrates into his hard core of support, he's toast, because the R's in congress will no longer be able to tie THEIR credidibility to his, and will stop shielding him.
Beyond that is simply the idea that POTUS's can't get repeatedly caught in bald-faced lies. R or D.
Never seen anyone so jealous, so resentful as you with Trump.
You don't get around much, do you?
This place is fun to watch. Conservative head exploding! conservative panties all in knots over one guy's posts about this celebrity president. Hilariously entertaining for sure.
Here's the other looming credibility-test for Mr. Trump.
"....Trump was asked whether he had asked Comey to end the investigation into Flynn. "No. No. Next question," he responded, four words upon which the credibility and viability of his presidency now rest."
The problem with this stuff is, if he gets caught in these direct contradictions, even you guys will be forced to acknowledge that the guy is a big, fat liar. Once he gets to that point- I mean, really, for 2/3 of us he's already there, but once his dishonestly penetrates into his hard core of support, he's toast, because the R's in congress will no longer be able to tie THEIR credidibility to his, and will stop shielding him.
Beyond that is simply the idea that POTUS's can't get repeatedly caught in bald-faced lies. R or D.
Never seen anyone so jealous, so resentful as you with Trump.
Also never seen anyone one run with so many assumptions, wild ass accusations and just plain ignorance.
Trump's living in your head, and your paying Trump Tower top floor rent. Hopefully it will consume you.
Again, you took a few years to "get your head right" while O was in office, and now your here daily to spew your garbage,
exactly, who, do you think you're convincing of anything?
I'll repeat myself, you've gone from awkward to embarrassing.
A damn shame you don't have a real life.
My life is a heck of a lot more real that most of y'all Keyboard Cowboy's, and that's a plain fact.
Plus, and this is the funny-ish* part: I'm right!
*its actually quite sad, and one reason I'm trolling you wankers so relentlessly is to cushion your fall a bit by FORCING some tiny part of your brain to begin to acknowledge reality here. You know the part- the part that even as you read this, knows I'm right.
"Beyond that is simply the idea that POTUS's can't get repeatedly caught in bald-faced lies. R or D." This is news to me after having lived through Clinton and the ------- serving as president right before Trump. Remember those lies? If you need them listed please give me a while. There are a lot to remember.
Every POTUS since I voted for Reagan in the first election I could vote in, has lied.
But Trump is a) lying about treason, and b) lying constantly about even relatively small things, and c) doing it really badly such that he's just paving a golden road towards being hung by his own petard.
My life is a heck of a lot more real that most of y'all Keyboard Cowboy's, and that's a plain fact. The only fact is, you have yet to present a single fact
Plus, and this is the funny-ish* part: I'm right! Once again, you have yet to be right.
*its actually quite sad, and one reason I'm trolling you wankers so relentlessly is to cushion your fall a bit by FORCING some tiny part of Too funny, you thinking you could influence me in any way, shape or form.
Oh, I'm very likely right... and I'm all up in your head... and if you told the truth, there's a growing gnawing feeling of dread because of what you know is very likely true, and what's coming down the pike.
JeffO, quote: My life is a heck of a lot more real that most of y'all Keyboard Cowboy's, and that's a plain fact.
Hey Jeff, I am still waiting to hear what you have done in the last year that you claimed was "Super Human" and at 55yrs of age nonetheless?
Maybe you developed a golf course? Resort? Hi rise building?
Since I am in the category you call keyboard cowboys, I would like to compare super human feats? I am the same age as you, and I accomplished a couple of my "feats" in your neighborhood.
I don't consider what I did superhuman, so I am curious as too what exactly you have done. Please tell?
Oh, I'm very likely right... and I'm all up in your head... and if you told the truth, there's a growing gnawing feeling of dread because of what you know is very likely true, and what's coming down the pike.
Jello, you're only in your own head. And your head has completely deceived you and left you adrift in your very own fantasy world.
I'm still recommending that you change the bong water. What can it hurt? It might help clear the fog a little bit, even though its pretty obvious that some permanent damage has occurred.
You'd be totally laughable if not for the fact that you are so blatantly arrogant and pathetic that its hard to comprehend your life with other people.
I'm pressing a point on an Internet forum expressly created for the debate of such things. That's not arrogant. Grow a pair.
You guys need to get over the precious opinion you have of yourselves. Your [bleep] stinks too. I get that it's dismaying to see Trump flaming out so epically- hell, it bothers me some too, as I had high hopes for some of his ideas. But it is what it is. Time to face reality guys... past time actually, but I'll give you a pass because it is hard to dis-invest from a full-retard position (such as defending... snork... Donald [bleep] Trump as an honest man... good Lord, it's hard to even type that... !)
Oh, I'm very likely right... and I'm all up in your head... and if you told the truth, there's a growing gnawing feeling of dread because of what you know is very likely true, and what's coming down the pike.
Yep I know whats coming down the pike.
A summer of riots and unrest. Violent protest. Lies and false accusations. Phony charges and investigations etc.....
All because you and your fellow liberals refuse to acknowledge a legitimate election result.
You and your fellow Bolsheviks are playing with fire. And are a threat to every free American.
You want proof of Russian meddling? look no farther than Hillary Clinton. Address those allegations, and if you don't know what I am talking about proves you are woefully uninformed.
There is undisputed and documented proof of shady dealings between the Clintons and Russia.
You have been asked a dozen plus times for proof of your allegations yet you provide none?
Coming from you those three words are beyond laughable.
Jeff has a pair... on his chin... but they're not his.
Yeah, I remember back 10 pages or so he was trolling for some action of his own with someone. To quote the man, "You'd have to lift my nutsack off your chin first."
Let's flip it around. I'm one of the very few people on any of these threads who's said "I might be wrong..." and I've said it a bunch of times. And hells bells men-- I might be wrong! Maybe POTUS is totally innocent and this IS a deep-state character assassination. I've also said that if that turns out to be the case, this particular American Militia member stands ready to address that attack on our democracy by any means necessary up to and including armed revolution.
But, I don't think that's the case here. I think Trump is dirty.
So let's do an arrogance test find out who is and is not. I said it- "I might be wrong" right here. So your turn, guys. I'll help ya. Repeat after me, we'll take it slow:
Let's flip it around. I'm one of the very few people on any of these threads who's said "I might be wrong..." and I've said it a bunch of times. And hells bells men-- I might be wrong! Maybe POTUS is totally innocent and this IS a deep-state character assassination. I've also said that if that turns out to be the case, this particular American Militia member stands ready to address that attack on our democracy by any means necessary up to and including armed revolution.
But, I don't think that's the case here. I think Trump is dirty.
So let's do an arrogance test find out who is and is not. I said it- "I might be wrong" right here. So your turn, guys. I'll help ya. Repeat after me, we'll take it slow:
"I".....
You're not just arrogant. You're arrogantly stupid in how you present yourself. Maybe have a moment of personal self-reflection and try saying" I might be an idiot".
I'd be spooked if I were you, bigfish. He's a nothing but a cute little poodle who thinks he can whip a Saint Bernard. After he tries to sniff your butt, he might piss on your leg.
Let's flip it around. I'm one of the very few people on any of these threads who's said "I might be wrong..." and I've said it a bunch of times. And hells bells men-- I might be wrong! Maybe POTUS is totally innocent and this IS a deep-state character assassination. I've also said that if that turns out to be the case, this particular American Militia member stands ready to address that attack on our democracy by any means necessary up to and including armed revolution.
But, I don't think that's the case here. I think Trump is dirty.
So let's do an arrogance test find out who is and is not. I said it- "I might be wrong" right here. So your turn, guys. I'll help ya. Repeat after me, we'll take it slow:
"I".....
We are all fulla schit and admitting you might be doesn't make you less so.
Nobody has a phuqcking clue what is really going on but that'll stop no one from turning in to a phuqcking political professor. Our values drive our beliefs not facts so until someone here, anyone anywhere, can separate the two were just talking to here ourselves talk.
Still nobody? This would be funny, if it weren't so [bleep] pathetic.
Ok, it's still funny.
I'll help ya some more, fellas, because that's just how I roll. Remember the ABC's song you learned all those years ago- or in bigfish's case, a few years ago? Ok, do that song in your head... it starts with "A", bigfish.... and when you get to "H", stop! Now use your words to verbalized the very next letter. Ready, class?
Apparently, you also flunked logic 101, in addition to your many other unchievements.
Nothin arrogant bout the burden of proof bein put on the party startin the shat.
You've wasted all this bandwith, and the only thing that's been proven is that you're a lying POS.
If you actually have any proof, not BS speculation, about President Trump's malfeasance, you would have posted it well before now.
Just like any legitimate evidence, or even a fakenews "leak", about such malfeasance, would have been brought forth by now.
But there's nothing.
Was there's rules on this site, you'd hafta start alla your posts with: "Once upon a time"
Your manic phase won't last forever. You'd better get busy findin the truth to bring down a president. LOL
I don't need to find the proof. Others have, and are, and I pay them with my tax dollars. I get to do things that are considerably more fun- such as point out your utterly blind partisanship in this matter.
Prove me wrong! It's easy and I'll show you how. It starts with "I".....
By the way, in seriousness, if you are designing high-rises and so on, that's impressive stuff. Though you do need to read what I wrote more carefully.
We may not have proof of Trump and/or his campaign colluding (yet) but we are gettin' damn close to proving some of you are arrogant egotistical know-it-alls. Or to use smaller words for wee ickle bigfish, [bleep].
Prove me wrong! Say you might be wrong about this.
To even admit the possibility is to admit that there's a chance that not only did you get suckered by a shyster, but you then also went full-retard in defense of said shyster. I get it. That's a tough pill to swallow.
You have two choices. #1, dig in! Which is exactly what most of you ball-busters will do, which is why I'll take great pleasure in rubbing your schnozzles in the poop you yourselves fling, should it turn out I'm right. Choice #2 is to hedge your bet. To that end, I offer a helpful meme, because I'm a nice guy and all. It goes like this:
Let's flip it around. I'm one of the very few people on any of these threads who's said "I might be wrong..." and I've said it a bunch of times. And hells bells men-- I might be wrong! Maybe POTUS is totally innocent and this IS a deep-state character assassination. I've also said that if that turns out to be the case, this particular American Militia member stands ready to address that attack on our democracy by any means necessary up to and including armed revolution.
But, I don't think that's the case here. I think Trump is dirty.
So let's do an arrogance test find out who is and is not. I said it- "I might be wrong" right here. So your turn, guys. I'll help ya. Repeat after me, we'll take it slow:
"I".....
Tell you what Jeff, I will and can admit I have been and will be wrong again and again before this life is over. I also learned from each of those mistakes.
I go forward in making decisions and judgement's armed with the wisdom of past mistakes, therefore I try a little harder to do my due diligence and limit my amount of mistakes.
You make the same mistakes over and over. Yet you call us fools and cowards.
I have spent the better part of my life as a political junkie, I have put the time and effort into informing myself and applying my critical thinking skills.
I do not believe I am wrong in this instance, probably am wrong about more than a few details though, I am not part of the Washington inner circle therefore I am speculating as are you.
I base my speculation on facts and evidence.
You base your speculation on what?? you claim you want discourse and a discussion yet you refuse to do so?
You are a hypocritical liar and yes arrogant as are many of your fellow liberal peers.
We are sick of your hypocritical behavior and lies.
I have no choice but to put you on ignore. Done with your games. GFY
To be quite honest, I have no idea how this will all come out. Just like everyone else at this point in time, including Jello, who also has no clue. But yet he so badly wants everyone to believe he's "in the know" in some way for some illusive insecure reason. That's blind arrogance at its finest.
The only reason I'm involved here is that at my age I simply don't suffer fools real well. Especially when a person arrogantly tries to tell me what I should think and then he tries to rub my nose and others' noses in it in various ways if I/we don't agree with his assessment. That is pathetic self-righteous behavior. Most dictionaries define self-righteous behavior as having or being characterized by a certainty, especially an unfounded one, that one is totally correct or morally superior.
When I use the term self-righteous and arrogant fool in Jello's direction, I'm not necessarily talking just about this topic.
Too bad that you are so poor that you have to borrow bong water from a neighbor. miles
He's got 5 acres with a creek on it. I'm sure he's got hos own water. The question is how does he find his way back home after getting lost on the bongwater run.
I'm not saying I'm in the know, nor am I trying to rub my knowledge in your face. What I AM saying is that you guys are badly overplaying the "fake news!" card... there's a lot of info out there, but if you only read as far left as FOX (yes I read FOX), then you aren't hearing it. Which I can only surmise is the case, because boy oh boy, are you guys missing and/or willfully ignoring a ton of stuff here.
In order to believe what you seem to, I'd have to ignore vast reams of very specific information that is widely available (except in the alt.right echo chamber). I'd have to believe in a conspiracy SO VAST, so broad, and so clever that it involves our entire intelligence apparatus, our entire establishment press, numerous telling quotes from congressmen and senators both R & D, my own observations of Trump's (lack of) character for decades, and so on. WTF would I do THAT?! Because the alternative is that Trump cheated, which fits his personality perzactly, and has been trying to cover it up (ditto).
One guy has 10 of you fit to be tied, and I don't think he is even trying hard. You guys should go back and reread yourselves.
It's NOT hard, and in all seriousness, that's what's kind of freaking my [bleep] out. These guys have lost the power of reason. Take these exact positions, hell, even take Trump himself and all his positions, but have him run as a Democrat and win, and they'd be all over this, as would I, and we'd be right.
Instead it's like they are teenage chicks who got their cherry popped by some fast-talker and is following him around like a sad little sheep.
WAKE THE [bleep] UP!!! And keep your damn knees together next time.
I don't think anyone here would trust you to pay off on a bet. miles
And this. Just like every other democrat on here that made a bet (RobJordan/StarGazer/Jordan Funk and LostHighway for starters). And I totally called that RJ would renege on Fub, as well as LostHighway.
Jeff says he doesn't make bets with children (guess 'cause of the restraining order). So we'll have to watch the OR queer thrash around some more.
Same Jeff that said his PTSD wasn't from a car accident and claimed it was from a ladder fall. Then today said someone else told him he had PTSD and it wasn't from a ladder fall. A real trustworthy democrat. As trustworthy as the rest.
I don't think anyone here would trust you to pay off on a bet. miles
And this. Just like every other democrat on here that made a bet (RobJordan/StarGazer/Jordan Funk and LostHighway for starters). And I totally called that RJ would renege on Fub, as well as LostHighway.
Jeff says he doesn't make bets with children (guess 'cause of the restraining order). So we'll have to watch the OR queer thrash around some more.
Same Jeff that said his PTSD wasn't from a car accident and claimed it was from a ladder fall. Then today said someone else told him he had PTSD and it wasn't from a ladder fall. A real trustworthy democrat. As trustworthy as the rest.
That's a flat lie, and you are a liar. I NEVER said anything about a ladder fall. Prove otherwise, you lying sack of shït.
It looks like I'll be up your way around the 4th. I really think we should get together.
That's a flat lie, and you are a liar. I NEVER said anything about a ladder fall. Prove otherwise, you lying sack of shït.
It looks like I'll be up your way around the 4th. I really think we should get together.
Anyone so desiring can find your own posts, which you now can't edit and are WAYYYYY past deleting, that show me saying (might have been someone else quoting me, can't remember) your PTSD was from a car accident and you corrected and said it was from a ladder accident.
Anyone else checking my posts from today can find me quoting I think hatari with demonstrated proof of your self-contradicting lies with Steelhead also calling you out in the quote. You prey on the short memory of people here, asswipe. You wanna accept the terms of my bet offer, yet? And PM me when you get to downtown Bothell.
To even admit the possibility is to admit that there's a chance that not only did you get suckered by a shyster, but you then also went full-retard in defense of said shyster. I get it. That's a tough pill to swallow. .
Honestly......... Do you feel you have any right to disparage anyone's voting record after your own voting history ? You have "zero" credibility in that regard.
To even admit the possibility is to admit that there's a chance that not only did you get suckered by a shyster, but you then also went full-retard in defense of said shyster. I get it. That's a tough pill to swallow. .
Honestly......... Do you feel you have any right to disparage anyone's voting record after your own voting history ? You have "zero" credibility in that regard.
A trip down JeffO's "Lying Lane", complete with links...
Originally Posted by jwp475
Originally Posted by Steelhead
Originally Posted by Steelhead
Sweet Louise, Jeff can't even count, nor tell the truth. Can't stomach a liar and an idiot.
Here is more of his MAGIC math in motion
Originally Posted by Jeff_O
Other that THAT <grin>, I didn't learn much this year. Got my buck opening day, didn't hunt my doe tag due to all the elk in the freezer, so I really didn't deer hunt much.
The above is ONE in 2008 season
Originally Posted by Jeff_O
The only deer I have hunted is blacktails. Killed about... 22 of them I think now. But who's counting.
I may be hunting a primo mule deer tag this year. I have the points, it's just whether I want to do it this year or not. To be honest- I'm a little skeered <grin>! I know how to kill a blacktail every year... not so sure I know how to kill a mule deer in the sage & juniper.
Originally Posted by Jeff_O
[quote=Steelhead]Wow, JO's count had increased by 6 in a year, lots of Oregon tags.
Just for the record, Steelhead is lying here. Surprise.
Originally Posted by Jeff_O
Should say, I've drawn 17 DEER tags and filled 16. Damn elk have my number. I don't want to talk about elk tags. :-)
So from June 2008 till April 2010 you've killed 6 more blacktails? Tough keeping up with the lies ain't is asswipe
So he killed another 6, in 2 hunting seasons. Of course the very top quote says he only killed 1 in the 2008 Season
Originally Posted by Jeff_O
Steelhead's quote of my comment made me go count horns on my Wall of Dinks <g>. Indeed, I'd killed 16-17 in June '08 when I posted that. Killed 4 since then (2 bucks, 2 does). So I've actually killed 20-21 blacktails. Hunting, that is; killed a couple more also with a gun. I'd say that's "about... 22" of them, as I said, or close enough for me.
In the early 2000's Oregon was still issuing "additional" doe tags, so IF you had access to the mostly private land units (Central Melrose was the one I had access to), where they issued those extra tags, you could get 3 tags total for the year. Which I did several times, and only didn't fill all three one time.
But for Pete's sake... really? REALLY?! All horned up over this [bleep]? After all... it's not like Steelhead never messes up a number by a bit.
Now he says he's shot 2 each in the 2008 and 2009 season, and says 1 buck and 1 doe in the 2008 season. He also says he didn't hunt his doe tag in the 2008 season.
The lies never cease from JO, but who is really surprised.
One guy has 10 of you fit to be tied, and I don't think he is even trying hard. You guys should go back and reread yourselves.
It's NOT hard, and in all seriousness, that's what's kind of freaking my [bleep] out. These guys have lost the power of reason.
So, explain how a crimeless circumstance is more deserving of legal action than the dnc colluding against sanders with hillary, or the crime of selling access to the US govt as Sec of State, or selling favors to foreign entities for cash donations to ones foundation.
I guess, of course, you must be ignorant of those real crimes and have no intrest in wondering why they havent been investigated.
James Comey is a poisonous snake of the highest order… a deep-water Swamp Denizen who has been highly paid to deliberately provide cover for high-level corruption by the Clintons and Obama. He is has been central to trying to destroy the Trump campaign and then the Trump administration from the start. He is as dirty as they come in DC. He had highest-level cover (the FBI no less) and was deep into an effort to eliminate Trump. Trump had to move hard, fast, and at exactly the right time to cut the head off the snake without getting bitten by the snake or being finished by the other swamp denizens.
Begin by noticing how the President fired Comey when Comey was 3,000 miles away from his office, that Comey had no inkling he was being cut, that all his files, computers, and everything in his office were seized by his boss Sessions and the justice department. This was not a violation of protocol, it was tactical. Notice how Prez Trump compartmentalized the strike and did not inform any of his White House “staff” to prevent leaks. Notice how he emasculated Comey and the swamp denizens by letting them know in a tweet that the Attorney General got information (surveillance “tapes” from the seizure of Comey’s office) to let Comey and his handlers know that Trump’s DOJ has the goods on them. This was a brilliant, strategic and totally imperative move at exactly the right time against horrible, evil and corrupt powers infesting our government.
The swamp is on notice that the President is on to them, they are sweating bullets because their criminal games of corruption are being pursued and they know it. They are screaming and ranting because they are desperate denizens of the swamp who are beginning to realize they are roadkill.
THIS IS WHAT YOU NEED TO KNOW ABOUT THE COMEY SCAM. Taken from credible public sources (readily available if you want to look or want me to sent them to you), with a few reasonable “fill in the blank” conclusions of my own.
The Highlights:
Comey was a minor assistant US attorney in the late 90’s. He only gained power and money by being the DOJ official who “investigated” and cleared Bill Clinton of any wrong-doing in Clinton's totally corrupt pardon (for huge payoffs) of criminal financier Marc Rich as Clinton was leaving the Presidency. This is how Comey began his career as a creature of the “swamp” years ago, as a servant of the Clintons.
Comey provided “cover” for the Clintons in their gaining incredible power and wealth after leaving office through pardoning a billionaire money-launderer, arms dealer and criminal. Comey was a key piece in how the Clintons upped their corruption game and gained incredible wealth through their foundation after leaving the White House. A huge part of the scheme was giving Marc Rich a free pass when he should have spent life in prison, and that is what Comey covered-up for the Clintons. This set up Comey to be part of the corruption machine, making him powerful and wealthy.
Immediately after doing the Clinton’s dirty work as a DOJ official, Comey resigned from the DOJ and took a position as the head attorney (Counsel) of the Lockheed Martin company, a huge military contractor. While he was in that position Lockheed became a major contributor (millions) to the Clinton Foundation and its fake charity spin-offs. In return for these payment to Clinton Inc., Lockheed received huge contracts with Hillary’s state department. Comey was the chief legal officer of Lockheed throughout this period of contributions to Clinton Inc. in return for State Dept. contracts.
In late 2012, after overseeing Lockheed’s successful relationship with the Hillary State Department and the resulting profits, Comey stepped down from Lockheed and received a $6 million dollar payout for his services.
In 2013, the largest bank of England, HSBC Holdings, was deep into a scandal. Investigations by federal authorities and law-enforcement had revealed that for years HSBC had been laundering billions of dollars for Mexican Drug Cartels, channeling money for Saudi banks who were financing terror, moving money for Iran in violation of the sanctions, and other major criminal activity. HSBC’s criminality was pervasive and deliberate by the Bank and its officials. HSBC was a huge Clinton Foundation contributor (many millions) throughout the “investigation” and Bill Clinton was being paid large personal fees for speaking at HSBC events (while Hillary was Sec of State). Eric Holder and the Obama Justice Department did what they were paid to do, and let HSBC off of the hook for a paltry 1.2 Billion dollar fine (paid by its stockholders), and not one Director, officer or management member at HSBC was fired or charged with any criminal. Exactly when everyone involved with HSBC Bank (including the Clintons and all of their “donors”) were being let off without penalty, and cover had to be provided to HSBC, Comey was appointed as a Director and Member of the Board of HSBC (in the middle of the fallout from the scandal). He was part of the effort to cover up the scandal and make HSBC “respectable” again.
After about a year as HSBC director, despite his lack of any law enforcement experience, no DOJ leadership experience, and no qualifications for the job, Comey was appointed FBI director by Obama. The only qualification Comey had was that the Clinton’s and their cronies knew Comey was in bed with them, was compromised and was willing to do their dirty work. Comey was appointed to the FBI right when Hillary was leaving the State Department, and was vulnerable to the FBI because she had been using a private-server, mis-handling classified information, selling access to favors/contracts from the State Department to Clinton Foundation Donors (including Comey’s Lockheed Martin), and much more. Remember that this was about the time the Inspector General of the State Department found over 2 billion “missing” from the State Department finances during Hillary's tenure.
The obvious conclusion is that Comey was appointed to the FBI (along with other reliable Clinton-Obama cronies) to run interference for the Clinton’s and Obama’s at the nation’s federal law enforcement agency(in conjunction with a corrupt Department of Justice). Comey was and is owned by the Clintons. He owed all of his power and wealth to being part of their machine and providing them with cover.
In late 2015 and early 2016, information began to come out about the Clinton Foundation and its use by the Clinton’s as a multi-billion dollar slush fund for corruption and political favors. (even Chelsea’s wedding had been paid for by the “charity) This was right as Hillary was beginning her campaign for President. It was revealed that the Foundation had never completed required reports or had an audit. Supposedly the FBI, under Comey, began an “investigation” of the Clinton Funds. A “professional” accounting firm was brought in by the Clintons to do a review, file some reports, make recommendations to the Clinton Foundation Board, and provide a veneer of legitimacy to the Clinton Fund operations. Predictably, one of the partners in the firm that was chosen (and paid lots of money) is the brother of James Comey (FBI Director). This brother owes James Comey $700,000 for a loan James gave him to buy a house, and presumably some of the money from the Clinton Fund was used to make payments to James on the loan. Over 2 years later and nothing has happened as a result of the FBI “investigating” the Clinton Funds under Comey.
No one in congress or federal law enforcement was intending to actually pursue the Clintons, but Judicial Watch and other independent sources obtained information proving that Hillary had been running her own server, sending out classified information, etc. This information began to come out right in the middle of her campaign to be coronated as President. A “show” investigation had to be performed to appear to look into it and clear her. Who to use?...the reliable shill James Comey.
As head of the FBI, Comey (and his lackeys in key positions) deliberately screwed up the investigation into Hillary’s use of a private server and her plain violation of national security law on classified information. The investigation was deliberately mis-handled in every aspect. Comey gave immunity to all of Hillary’s lackeys, did not use subpoenas or warrants, lost evidence, allowed the destruction of evidence, failed to do any searches or seizures of evidence, did not use a grand-jury, did not swear witnesses, did not record testimony, allowed attorneys to represent multiple suspects (corrupting the testimony). Everything that could be done to ruin the FBI investigation and to cover for Hillary was done. A “slam-dunk” case became a mess. Immunity was given every witness even though they provided no help. Maybe more importantly, by focusing the FBI on the email scandal, attention was drawn away from the much bigger scandal of the Clinton Foundation that could bring down a huge number of corrupt politicians, lobbyists, and even governments.
Originally, Comey’s job was simply to totally botch the Hillary investigation and ruin the case against her and her minions within the FBI regarding he emails. At the same time Comey also started work on a parallel assignment to illegally “wiretap” and surveil Donald Trump and every other person involved in the Republican campaign. He was tasked with digging up any dirt or fact that could be used to hurt the Trump campaign later. This included using a fake “dossier” paid for by the Clinton campaign to obtain authorization for the surveillance and to try to associate Trump’s campaign with the Russians. Under Comey’s direction the Trump/republican campaign was monitored and surveilled and all information was provided to the Obama Whitehouse and the Clinton camp all during the campaign.
Lorretta Lynch was supposed to complete the coverup for Hillary as Attorney General by issuing a finding that the deliberately botched FBI “investigation” did not justify prosecution of Hillary. But someone screwed up and Bill Clinton was video’d meeting with Loretta Lynch in Arizona shortly before she was supposed to make her decision on Hillary (interference with a federal investigation), and Lynch could no longer credibly squash the Hillary scandal. The solution, give the job to James. The Clinton’s owned him and he would have to do whatever is necessary to provide cover.
Comey goes on national TV and violates every rule of the FBI, the Justice Department and American law enforcement by revealing some of the FBI’s “evidence” of what Hillary did (enough to make it look like the FBI and Comey did some investigation), then declaring that there was no “intent” and clearing Hillary. He did what he was ordered to do. The Justice Department and Obama backed Comey’s coverup and it looked like Hillary had survived the scandal.
Then, right before the election, the NYPD obtained pervert Anthony Wiener’s laptop and found classified emails from Hillary on the laptop. The NYPD began leaking details to new-media outlets, and the story was about to explode. Comey once again stepped in to cover Hillary. He short-circuited the NYPD leaks by publicly acknowledging the laptop and the emails, but then claimed just days later that hundreds of thousands of emails had all been reviewed and “nothing new” was on the laptop. Once again, he had done his job. Providing cover and FBI “protection” for Hillary on the newest scandal when it broke.
If Hillary had won, Comey would have kept right on providing cover for the corruption of the Clinton machine. He would have kept the FBI paralyzed, prevented the Clinton Fund from being investigated, and continued to do his job as the Clinton’s personal scandal eraser at the FBI.
BUT TRUMP WON.
The Swamp and its bottom-dwelling denizens realize they are at risk from this political outsider who is not connected to the uni-party machines. Before Trump takes office, a “failsafe” plan is implemented to ruin Trump’s administration and try to force him out of the Presidency. The key players committed to the plan are the democrat politicians, the RINO establishment, the media, the Obama-Clinton operatives imbedded throughout the intelligence agencies and the entire bureaucracy, and most importantly, the Obama DOJ and JAMES COMEY. The scheme is to smear Trump with Russian “connections,” through a fake FBI “investigation” and more importantly, to trap him into a charge of criminal interference with the FBI. COMEY IS THE CENTRAL FIGURE IN THE SCHEME TO TAKE DOWN TRUMP.
The surveillance of the Trump campaign is continued after he is elected, all participants are “unmasked” illegally, and the transcripts are leaked throughout the government and to the media. When General Flynn appropriately calls Russian officials on behalf of Trump, they brush off the old fake “dossier” and all of the surveillance of the campaign, and Comey creates the “Russian Conspiracy” investigation. With help by RINO swamp kingpin and warmonger sell-out McCain, the fake "Russian pee dossier” is leaked to the press. There is no actual evidence of any collusion or connection between Trump or his campaign with Russia, but that does not prevent Comey from initiating an “investigation” at the FBI. This provides Comey with protection from Trump firing him immediately. Comey (or his minions) constantly leak news of the “Russia Investigation” to the media, and the media does its scripted part by screaming constantly about “Russia.” The Democrats fill their role and constantly scream about “Russia.” McCain and the RINO establishment do their part by promising to “investigate” how the Russians influenced the campaign.
Immediately after Trump is sworn in, the DOJ Hillary/Obama operatives and Comey start the direct attack. This is before Sessions has been appointed to the Department of Justice and the DOJ is still controlled by Obama operatives. DOJ Obama appointee Sally Yates approaches the Whitehouse with news that General Flynn had been in contact with Russia and alleges that he might be compromised. She reveals that there is an FBI “investigation” into the Russia ties (which they are constantly leaking to the media themselves). The White House Counsel (who Yates talks to, not Trump) asks for some more information.
The day before the promised additional information is to be provided by Yates to the Whitehouse, Comey sets up a dinner with Trump. If he can get Trump to ask about Flynn or try to intervene regarding Flynn or Russia then Trump can be charged with “interfering with an FBI investigation.” MY OPINION IS THAT COMEY SURVEILLED AND “TAPED” THIS MEETING IN HIS ATTEMPT TO SET UP TRUMP.
This is a two-pronged attack. It protects Comey and DOJ democrat holdovers from being terminated by the new administration because they are involved in an “ongoing investigation” that they control the timetable on(albeit one with absolutely no evidence). If Trump fires Comey then he is “interfering with the investigation” which is itself a federal crime that the FBI could then “investigate.” Alternatively, if they can get Trump to question Comey about Flynn or try to get him to back off of Flynn or the “Russia” investigation, then they again have him “interfering.”
Trump knows it is a set up by Comey and that he is probably being recorded (tips from FBI or DOJ who are not part of the corruption?) Maybe because his phone calls in the Whitehouse as President have already been bugged and released to the media. (FBI is in the best position to do this) Maybe because he was used to the Mafia in NY trying to shake him down every time he built a hotel. Comey tells Trump that Trump is not under investigation regarding Russia, but that others involved with the campaign are being investigated. Trump does not take the bait and attempt to intervene about Flynn or the Russia scam. Later, Flynn is cut loose because he is being used by Comey and the Obama-holdover Justice to try to damage Trump. He did nohing wrong, but if he stayed the charge of “interfering with an investigation” might seem to have teeth. Comey verbally tells Trump on two more occasions that he is not being investigated, but refuses to state this fact publicly or when testifying in Congress.
Trump knows everything I have gone through above about Comey. But he has to move carefully. He has to get his Attorney General and Deputy AG in place, get enough leverage on the Russia narrative, and ideally get rid of Comey in a way that allows him to obtain all the information that Comey has been accumulating (if he is taping Trump he is taping others). Comey, and others testify in Congress. Under oath, both Sally Yates and Intelligence officials from the Obama administration state that there has been no actual evidence of any collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia. More importantly, Comey, while refusing to say that Trump is not under investigation, testifies that he has informed the Senate Intelligence Committee heads who exactly is under investigation regarding Russia.
Trump tells almost no one at the White House that he is moving against Comey (so no leaks… no listening in on his conversations) Trump somehow contacts Sen. Grassley (the Chair of the Senate Intelligence Committee) and confirms that Comey told the Senator that Trump was not under investigation personally. Trump gets both the Attorney General and the new Deputy Attorney General to legitimately review Comey’s unprofessional actions at the FBI and to recommend in writing that Trump terminate Comey. Somehow Comey goes to California (at the request of AG Sessions or already scheduled and someone at FBI telling Trump?).
Trump seizes the moment and acts. While Comey is in California, 3000 miles away and 7 hours from his office, Trump prepares a letter firing him (with Sessions and the Deputy AG recommendations attached). In the letter Trump states that he had been told 3 times by Comey that he (Trump) was not under investigation. The letter is hand-delivered to the FBI headquarters by DOJ officials to lock-down and seize everything in Comey’s office, including all surveillance files (“tapes”) of Trump and others. All of Comey’s files, docs, computers and “tapes” are taken to Sessions at DOJ. They are not taken to the Whitehouse or Trump, but to Sessions, who has every right to have them. Sessions can tell Trump that Comey had surveillance tapes of Trump that contradict what Comey has been telling Trump, and perhaps tapes of conversations with other swamp “conspirators.” But Trump does not have them personally or at the Whitehouse.
Comey learns he has been fired when the media broadcasts it in California. He had no idea it was coming and he is ticked. On cue, the Democrat politicians and media begin screaming about Trump’s “interference with the Russia investigation” in accordance with the plan to set up Trump for that charge. The Swamp wants to blow up the Russia narrative using Comey, and Comey is set to testify before Congress to try to hurt Trump by saying he was interfering with the FBI investigation. Comey intends to follow through with the plan to take down Trump.
But because of his brilliant timing on this, Trump has Comey’s files, documents and information safely with Sessions at DOJ. Trump sends out a “crazy” tweet that says: “James Comey better hope that there are no “tapes” of our conversations before he starts leaking to the press.”
The media and the politicians go crazy about the “inappropriateness” of this tweet. They accuse Trump of “taping” everyone at the WhiteHouse (forgetting that the Presidents phone calls with foreign leaders have been “taped” without his knowledge.)
Notice that Trump did not say he taped anyone, or that he has any tapes at the White House. It seem apparent that Trump is telling Comey that the DOJ (who has every legal right to possess it) has the surveillance information and files from Comey’s office, the “tapes" obtained and kept by Comey. Comey and all the Swamp Creatures understand the clear message… their plan has failed and Trump’s DOJ is now holding all the cards.
The whole Russia interference scheme crashes and burns. While the mouthpiece media, Hollywood and the insane fringe continue to scream about Russia and Comey being fired, the politicians who will soon be in the crosshairs of a legitimate (and ticked) FBI and DOJ are starting to fall strangely silent. Comey realizes all the leverage is with Trump and that he will be lucky if he is not added to the Clinton Death List because of his knowledge (better not take any baths near an electrical outlet or get on any airplanes).
Comey tells Congress he will not testify and writes a public letter to the FBI accepting his firing and telling them he does not want to discuss why or how he was terminated. Senator Grassley and Senator Feinstein (she must be covering her butt in fear …) issue public statements confirming that Comey told them that the “Russia Investigation” does not involve President Trump personally.
AG Sessions and his Deputy AG use the Comey trove of information to determine who has been part of the Comey Syndicate at the FBI. They will be appointing an “interim” Director of the FBI shortly who has not been compromised by Comey, Clinton or Obama. That “interim” Director does not have to be approved by Congress or anyone, and can immediately begin cleaning house at the FBI of all Comey/Clinton/Obama minions, initiating investigations of the Clintons, Clinton Fund, violations of intelligence confidentiality laws by Susan Rice and Obama, human trafficking in DC, political corruption… draining the Swamp. Using the Comey files they can be fairly certain they are not getting another Comey as an “interim", and they do not have to wait for the circus of appointing a new permanent “Director” through Congressional approval. Most of the heavy lifting on rooting out FBI corruption and starting investigations into the swamp will be done by the “interim” before a new director is appointed. I suspect the Trump administration hopes the approval FBI Director process will be slow and tedious, so there is no political interference with the housecleaning that is starting.
In one masterstroke, Trump has eliminated a truly toxic and dangerous enemy to his administration and our country, dealt a horrendous blow to the Clinton/Obama and deep state machines, begun the restoration of the integrity of the FBI and the DOJ, and gained incredible ammunition to begin hunting the foul creatures in the swamp.
That's a flat lie, and you are a liar. I NEVER said anything about a ladder fall. Prove otherwise, you lying sack of shït.
It looks like I'll be up your way around the 4th. I really think we should get together.
Anyone so desiring can find your own posts, which you now can't edit and are WAYYYYY past deleting, that show me saying (might have been someone else quoting me, can't remember) your PTSD was from a car accident and you corrected and said it was from a ladder accident.
Anyone else checking my posts from today can find me quoting I think hatari with demonstrated proof of your self-contradicting lies with Steelhead also calling you out in the quote. You prey on the short memory of people here, asswipe. You wanna accept the terms of my bet offer, yet? And PM me when you get to downtown Bothell.
Total fabricated bullshit. You are, quite simply, making that up about the ladder. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt that you are simply a confused idiot, rather than intentionally maliciously lying, for the moment, while you go search your little patootie off looking for that post, because here's the truth: it does not exist. Period. End of story. I've never fallen off a ladder, and my head injury happened in a car wreck, and I've NEVER said otherwise.
If you have a speck of honor, you'll do your searches, realize you screwed up, and apologize for calling another man a liar in what was, in fact a lie by YOU. I will give you the opportunity to do so. Got honor? Integrity? Prove it.
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On a related note, stop and think for a minute what is happening here. Here we are, on a dedicated political discussion forum, talkin' politics, and for a "man" like bigfish it's so threatening to his precious lil' reality construct to have someone present conflicting opinions and interpretations that his head blows up and he starts making obscene posters of me and fabricating lies! That's no way for an adult to act! Folks, we are all looking at the same information here; and there's a lot of room for a person to form an opinion about what's going on, what seems most likely to be happening, and so on. Don't get so caught up in the preciousness of your opinion that you lose the ability to function! Because that's what's happening here. The magnitude of the cognitive dissonance resulting if Trump DID do these things appears to overwhelm many of you. Yet, any rational observer would be forced to admit that it sure does look at least possible- and personally I'd up that to probable- that there's a fire at the center of all this smoke! How can we NOT talk about this?!
Yesterday I got a couple of you to say that it's possible you are wrong. That's progress. Not progress towards me "winning", but progress towards being cognitively functional American citizens on this issue. This is far from over. If I'm right, a portion of US society is going to have its heart broken... it's gonna get ugly... I'm not trying to make that worse, or accelerate it. I'm trying to soften the blow and to open at least minimal lines of communication (see my .sig) here. WE are the ones who have to put this all back together. Not some transgender with a bone in his nose. US: the reasonable adults who are capable of conversing about difficult topics. We exist; there's a few here and what happened yesterday was progress towards that end.
On that note <grin>, looks like Flynn is taking the 5th on the documents subpoena. I get why he would, legally, but boy that's a bad look and typically not the actions of an inoccent man, no?
That's a flat lie, and you are a liar. I NEVER said anything about a ladder fall. Prove otherwise, you lying sack of shït.
It looks like I'll be up your way around the 4th. I really think we should get together.
Anyone so desiring can find your own posts, which you now can't edit and are WAYYYYY past deleting, that show me saying (might have been someone else quoting me, can't remember) your PTSD was from a car accident and you corrected and said it was from a ladder accident.
Anyone else checking my posts from today can find me quoting I think hatari with demonstrated proof of your self-contradicting lies with Steelhead also calling you out in the quote. You prey on the short memory of people here, asswipe. You wanna accept the terms of my bet offer, yet? And PM me when you get to downtown Bothell.
Total fabricated bullshit. You are, quite simply, making that up about the ladder. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt that you are simply a confused idiot, rather than intentionally maliciously lying, for the moment, while you go search your little patootie off looking for that post, because here's the truth: it does not exist. Period. End of story. I've never fallen off a ladder, and my head injury happened in a car wreck, and I've NEVER said otherwise.
If you have a speck of honor, you'll do your searches, realize you screwed up, and apologize for calling another man a liar in what was, in fact a lie by YOU. I will give you the opportunity to do so. Got honor? Integrity? Prove it.
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On a related note, stop and think for a minute what is happening here. Here we are, on a dedicated political discussion forum, talkin' politics, and for a "man" like bigfish it's so threatening to his precious lil' reality construct to have someone present conflicting opinions and interpretations that his head blows up and he starts making obscene posters of me and fabricating lies! That's no way for an adult to act! Folks, we are all looking at the same information here; and there's a lot of room for a person to form an opinion about what's going on, what seems most likely to be happening, and so on. Don't get so caught up in the preciousness of your opinion that you lose the ability to function! Because that's what's happening here. The magnitude of the cognitive dissonance resulting if Trump DID do these things appears to overwhelm many of you. Yet, any rational observer would be forced to admit that it sure does look at least possible- and personally I'd up that to probable- that there's a fire at the center of all this smoke! How can we NOT talk about this?!
Yesterday I got a couple of you to say that it's possible you are wrong. That's progress. Not progress towards me "winning", but progress towards being cognitively functional American citizens on this issue. This is far from over. If I'm right, a portion of US society is going to have its heart broken... it's gonna get ugly... I'm not trying to make that worse, or accelerate it. I'm trying to soften the blow and to open at least minimal lines of communication (see my .sig) here. WE are the ones who have to put this all back together. Not some transgender with a bone in his nose. US: the reasonable adults who are capable of conversing about difficult topics. We exist; there's a few here and what happened yesterday was progress towards that end.
If what I said yesterday about not knowing the eventual outcome of this makes you think that you changed my mind on anything, you're more delusional than I had originally thought. No one knows what twists and turns this all might make before it plays out - and once again you are included when I say no one.
My beef with you is the arrogant manner in which you present your side. In the simplest form, you're nothing but a delusional self-absorbed ass clown with a keyboard and a password at best. You are not the knowledgeable person you see in your mirror.
Jeffo Quote: "Yesterday I got a couple of you to say that it's possible you are wrong. That's progress. Not progress towards me "winning", but progress towards being cognitively functional American citizens on this issue. This is far from over. If I'm right, a portion of US society is going to have its heart broken... it's gonna get ugly... I'm not trying to make that worse, or accelerate it. I'm trying to soften the blow and to open at least minimal lines of communication (see my .sig) here. WE are the ones who have to put this all back together. Not some transgender with a bone in his nose. US: the reasonable adults who are capable of conversing about difficult topics. We exist; there's a few here and what happened yesterday was progress towards that end."
I tell you what cupcake, how bout you worry bout you and I'll worry bout me.
Jeff, in your early years on this forum you provided the rest of us with a lot of humor due to your naivety regarding all things concerning shooting, hunting, and other outdoor pursuits. When you exposed your ignorance on those matters with some stupid post, you took the ribbing in a good natured way. Some of us even stuck up for you when the insults directed at you were excessive and personal.
You have grown, but in the wrong direction.
None of your posts nowadays show any original thinking, they are just Chris Matthews regurgitated talking points.
You deserve the verbal abuse being heaped on you and continuing to post on this forum just reveals that there is something bad wrong with you.
szihn, via the sources he cites, connects ALL the dots.
Jeff O, with all his circular "mispeaks", has lost what little command of logic he had. He can attempt to assail who ever he wants, in his so called righteous indignation. Its all smoke. He's been busted. It would be funny if it wasn't so sad. The character assassination attempts on his part , are pathetic. So typical Liberal lefty right out of the playbook, and now sophomoric. He can't be original.
continuing to post on this forum just reveals that there is something bad wrong with you.
Really.
I believe it comes from excessive dope smoking coupled with "PTSD" by falling of a stepladder...
I believe it comes from the simple fact that he's a phoucking fruit cake probably stemming from a multitude of reasons. And as a result he reads equally delusional news reports and believes them.
Here's a good read from an MSM source that nonetheless lays things out very cogently. It touches on a very interesting dynamic- which is that as of this moment, Pence is still relatively clean... that gives Congress a viable Conservative alternative should they choose to initiate impeachment proceeding over the obstruction of justice stuff that'll be coming to a head later this week. But there's some urgency there. If Pence gets muddy then this gets REALLY complex and FUBAR.
I'm torn over whether I think Trump gets impeached. On the one hand, I think he's far too vain for that; I think he'd sooner come up with an excuse to resign (health?).... on the other hand he's been remarkably tone-deaf. He's set the stage for obstruction charges (politically, not necessarily legally, they are different) because he just cannot keep his mouth shut. That speaks, to me, to a level of arrogance and ego that might just have him dying on that hill out of pure stubbornness. I don't know.
In a sense, having this come to a head over obstruction is cleaner that having it blow up further over the Russian collusion stuff. Obstruction is pretty straightforward. It's also pretty dang unforgivable.
Obviously this requires action in Congress. This'll be an interesting week. All that's required at this point for impeachment proceeding to begin is the desire for it in the Republican Party in Congress. The justification is there (obstruction) provided by Mr. Trump himself in his own words. I get the feeling the worm is turning there, but we'll see.
Interestingly, I read a great article the other day, that I wish I'd bookmarked, detailing why the Dem's are in no hurry whatsoever to impeach. Honestly, that article should strike cold terror into the heart of Trump supporters. The Dem's know they've got him, because they are privy to the intel, but a) want things to unfold naturally- I.E., without them driving the process- so that it will be seen as a measure of Trump guilt rather than Democrat aggression. And b), because currently Trump is doing many many things that benefit the D's; there's reasons to WANT him there doing what he's been doing. He's tarring the Republican Party by association.
I'll see if I can find that article. In the meantime, this is a good read:
Notice how Mr. Ladder PTSD qeermo avoids his OWN QUOTES where he is a proven liar.
And I'm afraid to follow through on my offer to bet Jeffo because I know I'll lose and that would be embarrassing.
Link to the original, then. If there's "quotes" of me saying I fell off a ladder and got a brain injury/PTSD, then they are fabricated like I just did to you, above.
I did not say that. Ever. Period.
I'm giving bigfish a chance to do the right thing. We'll find out if he has a speck of honor or not. I'd suggest you don't get caught up in this, Jorge. He's lying, or perhaps simply mis-remembering. We shall see.
Notice how Mr. Ladder PTSD qeermo avoids his OWN QUOTES where he is a proven liar.
And I'm afraid to follow through on my offer to bet Jeffo because I know I'll lose and that would be embarrassing.
Link to the original, then. If there's "quotes" of me saying I fell off a ladder and got a brain injury/PTSD, then they are fabricated like I just did to you, above.
I did not say that. Ever. Period.
I'm giving bigfish a chance to do the right thing. We'll find out if he has a speck of honor or not. I'd suggest you don't get caught up in this, Jorge. He's lying, or perhaps simply mis-remembering. We shall see.
Didn't someone once say, " I think he doth protest too much"?
On that note <grin>, looks like Flynn is taking the 5th on the documents subpoena. I get why he would, legally, but boy that's a bad look and typically not the actions of an inoccent man, no?
Jeff, in your early years on this forum you provided the rest of us with a lot of humor due to your naivety regarding all things concerning shooting, hunting, and other outdoor pursuits. When you exposed your ignorance on those matters with some stupid post, you took the ribbing in a good natured way. Some of us even stuck up for you when the insults directed at you were excessive and personal.
You have grown, but in the wrong direction.
None of your posts nowadays show any original thinking, they are just Chris Matthews regurgitated talking points.
You deserve the verbal abuse being heaped on you and continuing to post on this forum just reveals that there is something bad wrong with you.
Really.
Curdog, I remember from then, and I've noted again recently, that you are a stalwart for civil discourse. Good on ye.
To your point, we are ALL regurgitating here. None of us actually know [bleep] other than what our choice of media is telling us and how we choose to connect the dots in front of us. I believe the majority here are connecting them wrong, mostly because their palette of dots is limited due to them pre-filtering what they are willing to read. So, we all are casting the tea leaves or spilling the cat entrails and making a call as to our interpretation. That's what I'm doing. That's ALL I'm doing. However I'm doing it with persistence, which is being mischaracterized as arrongance, and so I'm getting the standard Campfire toolkit thrown at me. The only thing missing is a certain somebody trying to set me off by insulting my wife. It doesn't matter. I have very thick skin these days or I wouldn't be here.
So, I'm expressing my opinion here, and I'm trying to keep it mostly contained to this thread so that folks can choose to read it, or not. If you choose to read it, that's your call. If it hurts your head, don't read it. I'm not going to stop saying it. Why? Two reasons. First, I think I'm correct. I think Trump and/or campaign associates did collude with Russia to attempt to affect the election. And second, because this is something that people here need to hear! Echo chambers are a harsh mistress when it turns out they are wrong, and many here are stuck in one. I'm trying to HELP. I really am.
If it turns out I'm wrong, I'll own that. Same way I owned it a few days ago when I crossed my own personal line about name-calling (it sure wasn't a line that exists here on the Fire!) and publically apologized to Jorge. Maybe I AM wrong and it's you guys reading the tea leaves correctly and ME in an echo chamber! That's a possibility I'm trying to be open to. Can "you" collectively say the same?
I'm off to make some dough. Got a vexing issue with customer-supplied crappy steel that has hard inclusions that are giving my tooling fits. Gotta try some custom grinds on cutters... hopefully.
Didn't someone once say, " I think he doth protest too much"?
I could spend a couple hours looking for that post, but that would require reading through all of Jeff's bullschidt, and he'd just say it's me fake quoting him. Just like he won't respond to others quoting his obvious lies. Why waste more time than I have on this chitlib?
Why should anybody believe the unsupported denials of a poster that got brain damage and an STD from fallin off a stepstool?
Obvious brain damage, which would affect memory, which is why the post can't be recalled.
I can't prove a negative, dumbass. Nobody can.
I never said ANYTHING about falling off a ladder. Ladders scare the [bleep] out of me, and trust me, I've spent more time on them than most here, and often doing things on them most here could not physically do. That's just a fact. Never fell off one, though I am damn certain a guy could... hence my dislike of the rat bastids.
Bigfish is at a fork in the road. He can own his mistake- if it was one- like a man. Or he can be a proven lying POS. I'm giving him the chance to do the right thing... which is pretty damn nice of me, actually. It'll be interesting to see what he does, won't it?
Didn't someone once say, " I think he doth protest too much"?
I could spend a couple hours looking for that post, but that would require reading through all of Jeff's bullschidt, and he'd just say it's me fake quoting him. Just like he won't respond to others quoting his obvious lies. Why waste more time than I have on this chitlib?
Bwa ha ha.
Liar. It doesn't exist, which you know because you already tried to find it. Now you are being nothing but a little punk.
You did this to yourself, and even after I tried to give you an out.
I'm laffin at you. And don't think for a second that the 90% of folks around here- who are fundamentally decent people- didn't see you pull this crap.
You have no honor. No balls. You are the embodiment of what's wrong with America right now- an absolute disregard for honesty coupled with a complete lack of personal responsibility. Congratulations?
The fake news media has created an insane asylum for snowflakes and you have checked yourself in.
Curdog has given you some good, truthful advice to help you, not him. Yet, you continue to believe in your dream. Just remember, sometimes the insane believe they can fly.
You are showing signs that you are delusional with regard to reality and your supposed infallibility, if not your belief that you can predict the future or even cause it to come to pass through the power of your mind.
It seems to me: 1) If a member said something that can be proven, then post the comment for all to see...or don't call him out that he's a lying POS. 2) If you can't prove he said it, by quoting the actual post...then digress that you may be wrong, you might be mistaken and own up to your statements....even tho you still may feel he's an azzhole and don't like him. 3) Drop all the name calling, mob mentality, piling on horsechit...it's a waste of band width. 4) We all have different opinions on many subjects, just because you don't agree with someone doesn't justify beating them into submission with insults and names...make your point and move on.
The Fire exists because of a variety of interests and opinions, no matter the subject whether guns or politics...if we all had identical feelings and outlooks, the world would be boring as hell.
Just a couple of minutes of searching, more lies from the doper. Relates to his "PTSD" not to mention yet another glaring lie:
Originally Posted by Jeff_O
Originally Posted by okie
It would be nice to know that Jeffy was no longer the socialist he proved himself to be before and that maybe his children are smarter than he was...
I will do this ONE TIME so listen up <g>. I do not argue politics anymore. I do not FOLLOW politics anymore. I sucked at it anyway <g>. I'm done with that [bleep].
I did not vote for Obama in 2012. I voted for the party who's platform most closely aligns with my personal bitches' brew of politics, which is Libertarian. I will be following that path for the foreseeable future. I cannot abide either the Democratic or Republucan party platforms.
DocRocket, I'd say I got 90-something percent of the way back. It was a doozy. From there, it's about compensation and adaption and MOVING FORWARDS. If you have a patient so stricken, I found highly aerobic exercise to be a huge benefit in alleviating the anxiety, depression, and PTSD symptoms.
Thanks for well wishes from those who sent them. I'm not hanging around for the beat down. Enjoy---
Jeff, in your early years on this forum you provided the rest of us with a lot of humor due to your naivety regarding all things concerning shooting, hunting, and other outdoor pursuits. When you exposed your ignorance on those matters with some stupid post, you took the ribbing in a good natured way. Some of us even stuck up for you when the insults directed at you were excessive and personal.
You have grown, but in the wrong direction.
None of your posts nowadays show any original thinking, they are just Chris Matthews regurgitated talking points.
You deserve the verbal abuse being heaped on you and continuing to post on this forum just reveals that there is something bad wrong with you.
Really.
Curdog, I remember from then, and I've noted again recently, that you are a stalwart for civil discourse. Good on ye.
To your point, we are ALL regurgitating here. None of us actually know [bleep] other than what our choice of media is telling us and how we choose to connect the dots in front of us. I believe the majority here are connecting them wrong, mostly because their palette of dots is limited due to them pre-filtering what they are willing to read. So, we all are casting the tea leaves or spilling the cat entrails and making a call as to our interpretation. That's what I'm doing. That's ALL I'm doing. However I'm doing it with persistence, which is being mischaracterized as arrongance, and so I'm getting the standard Campfire toolkit thrown at me. The only thing missing is a certain somebody trying to set me off by insulting my wife. It doesn't matter. I have very thick skin these days or I wouldn't be here.
So, I'm expressing my opinion here, and I'm trying to keep it mostly contained to this thread so that folks can choose to read it, or not. If you choose to read it, that's your call. If it hurts your head, don't read it. I'm not going to stop saying it. Why? Two reasons. First, I think I'm correct. I think Trump and/or campaign associates did collude with Russia to attempt to affect the election. And second, because this is something that people here need to hear! Echo chambers are a harsh mistress when it turns out they are wrong, and many here are stuck in one. I'm trying to HELP. I really am.
If it turns out I'm wrong, I'll own that. Same way I owned it a few days ago when I crossed my own personal line about name-calling (it sure wasn't a line that exists here on the Fire!) and publically apologized to Jorge. Maybe I AM wrong and it's you guys reading the tea leaves correctly and ME in an echo chamber! That's a possibility I'm trying to be open to. Can "you" collectively say the same?
I'm off to make some dough. Got a vexing issue with customer-supplied crappy steel that has hard inclusions that are giving my tooling fits. Gotta try some custom grinds on cutters... hopefully.
You're doing nothing of the sort, all you're doing is proving how a lot of the members on this site were right about you. I've read a good number of your posts in this thread, you're nothing more than an arrogant pos who's only mission here is to irritate the members on this site.
And while we're at it, please tell us what laws Trump broke, specifically, because according to Alan Dershowitz, a Democrat that voted for Hilary and a Harvard Law Professor Emeritus, says that no laws were broken and the appointment of a special counsel not needed.
Fish, it wasn't intended that way...or pointed at you. Just a general observation of a worthy thread, that's been hijacked far from it's original subject.
But far be it from me to jump in the middle of a dog fight, without a ballbat or pistol...I've got enough chit on my plate without getting mauled by the pack.
Total fabricated bullshit. You are, quite simply, making that up about the ladder. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt that you are simply a confused idiot, rather than intentionally maliciously lying, for the moment, while you go search your little patootie off looking for that post, because here's the truth: it does not exist. Period. End of story. I've never fallen off a ladder, and my head injury happened in a car wreck, and I've NEVER said otherwise.
It would be ever so enlightening for the pack here to outline the acceptable way someone could argue that Trump and his administration is, shall we say, undesirable. You don't like Jeff's approach which is far more civil and rational than your own. Ya'll claim to being open minded, logical, rational, American, etc,. etc., but your behaviors doesn't demonstrate it on any of those counts.
So, how is it supposed to be done? Obviously, you have all condemned anything and everything that ya'll used to go after O and H from 2008-16, so those approaches are out. Jeff's approach is out. What's left? Fill us in on how someone should be able to have an independent, nonPC opinion on this website without become reviled and denigrated in the way ya'll have gone after Jeff et al.
Me thinks there isn't away. No tolerance for an opposing point of view. The code of behavior here seems to be follow the pack or prepare to be attacked by the mob. Let's here of some other options.
Meanwhile, one guy, on his own has pretty much generated almost 500 posts and over 11k views on just one thread. What would Rick do w/o Jeff?
Ok. Trump is undesirable, to many. Fact is, he was legally elected. Of course, facts and legalities are of no real consequence to jerkoffs like you two.
Ok. Trump is undesirable, to many. Fact is, he was legally elected. Of course, facts and legalities are of no real consequence to jerkoffs like you two.
Now, piss and moan on.
Obama was legally elected. Clinton was legally elected. Made no difference to jerkoffs like the pack here. Please, try for some semblance of rational thought. Linear logic is always simplest. Work on it, jag.
Total fabricated bullshit. You are, quite simply, making that up about the ladder. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt that you are simply a confused idiot, rather than intentionally maliciously lying, for the moment, while you go search your little patootie off looking for that post, because here's the truth: it does not exist. Period. End of story. I've never fallen off a ladder, and my head injury happened in a car wreck, and I've NEVER said otherwise.
And I believe that literally as much as the rest of the BS he posts here. Which is to say not at all.
It would be ever so enlightening for the pack here to outline the acceptable way someone could argue that Trump and his administration is, shall we say, undesirable. You don't like Jeff's approach which is far more civil and rational than your own. Ya'll claim to being open minded, logical, rational, American, etc,. etc., but your behaviors doesn't demonstrate it on any of those counts.
So, how is it supposed to be done? Obviously, you have all condemned anything and everything that ya'll used to go after O and H from 2008-16, so those approaches are out. Jeff's approach is out. What's left? Fill us in on how someone should be able to have an independent, nonPC opinion on this website without become reviled and denigrated in the way ya'll have gone after Jeff et al.
Me thinks there isn't away. No tolerance for an opposing point of view. The code of behavior here seems to be follow the pack or prepare to be attacked by the mob. Let's here of some other options.
Meanwhile, one guy, on his own has pretty much generated almost 500 posts and over 11k views on just one thread. What would Rick do w/o Jeff?
Tolerance, where's the tolerance for President Trump from you leftist?? It does not exist.
It would be ever so enlightening for the pack here to outline the acceptable way someone could argue that Trump and his administration is, shall we say, undesirable. You don't like Jeff's approach which is far more civil and rational than your own. Ya'll claim to being open minded, logical, rational, American, etc,. etc., but your behaviors doesn't demonstrate it on any of those counts.
So, how is it supposed to be done? Obviously, you have all condemned anything and everything that ya'll used to go after O and H from 2008-16, so those approaches are out. Jeff's approach is out. What's left? Fill us in on how someone should be able to have an independent, nonPC opinion on this website without become reviled and denigrated in the way ya'll have gone after Jeff et al.
Me thinks there isn't away. No tolerance for an opposing point of view. The code of behavior here seems to be follow the pack or prepare to be attacked by the mob. Let's here of some other options.
Meanwhile, one guy, on his own has pretty much generated almost 500 posts and over 11k views on just one thread. What would Rick do w/o Jeff?
Tolerance, where's the tolerance for President Trump from you leftist?? It does not exist.
Remember, the goal here is to find something that is logical. Which would suggest that Trump supporters might not expect more tolerance than they gave to Obama just last year. Now, show me where the fire was tolerant of Obama and maybe we can get somewhere. You can't ask for behavior that you can't give, that's rule #1.
I honestly do not GAF what you lefties want. That is pretty much how it was for the eight years prior to Trumps inauguration for anyone that disagreed with the left. I'm by no means here to be 'civil' towards anyone that backs the destruction of the USA.
It would be ever so enlightening for the pack here to outline the acceptable way someone could argue that Trump and his administration is, shall we say, undesirable. You don't like Jeff's approach which is far more civil and rational than your own. Ya'll claim to being open minded, logical, rational, American, etc,. etc., but your behaviors doesn't demonstrate it on any of those counts.
So, how is it supposed to be done? Obviously, you have all condemned anything and everything that ya'll used to go after O and H from 2008-16, so those approaches are out. Jeff's approach is out. What's left? Fill us in on how someone should be able to have an independent, nonPC opinion on this website without become reviled and denigrated in the way ya'll have gone after Jeff et al.
Me thinks there isn't away. No tolerance for an opposing point of view. The code of behavior here seems to be follow the pack or prepare to be attacked by the mob. Let's here of some other options.
Meanwhile, one guy, on his own has pretty much generated almost 500 posts and over 11k views on just one thread. What would Rick do w/o Jeff?
Tolerance, where's the tolerance for President Trump from you leftist?? It does not exist.
Remember, the goal here is to find something that is logical. Which would suggest that Trump supporters might not expect more tolerance than they gave to Obama just last year. Now, show me where the fire was tolerant of Obama and maybe we can get somewhere. You can't ask for behavior that you can't give, that's rule #1.
There has been no tolerance since day 1 of his presidency, he hasn't been given a chance to succeed at anything. So, try again only try a little harder this time.
It would be ever so enlightening for the pack here to outline the acceptable way someone could argue that Trump and his administration is, shall we say, undesirable. You don't like Jeff's approach which is far more civil and rational than your own. Ya'll claim to being open minded, logical, rational, American, etc,. etc., but your behaviors doesn't demonstrate it on any of those counts.
So, how is it supposed to be done? Obviously, you have all condemned anything and everything that ya'll used to go after O and H from 2008-16, so those approaches are out. Jeff's approach is out. What's left? Fill us in on how someone should be able to have an independent, nonPC opinion on this website without become reviled and denigrated in the way ya'll have gone after Jeff et al.
Me thinks there isn't away. No tolerance for an opposing point of view. The code of behavior here seems to be follow the pack or prepare to be attacked by the mob. Let's here of some other options.
Meanwhile, one guy, on his own has pretty much generated almost 500 posts and over 11k views on just one thread. What would Rick do w/o Jeff?
Tolerance, where's the tolerance for President Trump from you leftist?? It does not exist.
Remember, the goal here is to find something that is logical. Which would suggest that Trump supporters might not expect more tolerance than they gave to Obama just last year. Now, show me where the fire was tolerant of Obama and maybe we can get somewhere. You can't ask for behavior that you can't give, that's rule #1.
Where does Maxine Watters screaming for impeachment well before Trump was inaugurated fit into your logic?
And snowflake nation having their 8 month and counting meltdown over a fairly won election? I don't remember the GOP or conservatives crying like little babies when Obama won, twice.
And snowflake nation having their 8 month and counting meltdown over a fairly won election? I don't remember the GOP or conservatives crying like little babies when Obama won, twice.
Oh, were you AWOL from the 'fire then? Lots of crying and nashing of teeth, doomsday predictions (my favorite was how O was going to install himself as dictator for life). It was quite remarkable. That's why I wonder why ya'll object so strenuously to one or two "butterflies" that find Trump to be a little less than desirable? Gotta admit, Trump provides more entertainment than any president I've ever seen. He flip-flops on issues faster than a trout on a sandbar.
And snowflake nation having their 8 month and counting meltdown over a fairly won election? I don't remember the GOP or conservatives crying like little babies when Obama won, twice.
Oh, were you AWOL from the 'fire then? Lots of crying and nashing of teeth, doomsday predictions (my favorite was how O was going to install himself as dictator for life). It was quite remarkable. That's why I wonder why ya'll object so strenuously to one or two "butterflies" that find Trump to be a little less than desirable? Gotta admit, Trump provides more entertainment than any president I've ever seen. He flip-flops on issues faster than a trout on a sandbar.
And snowflake nation having their 8 month and counting meltdown over a fairly won election? I don't remember the GOP or conservatives crying like little babies when Obama won, twice.
Oh, were you AWOL from the 'fire then? Lots of crying and nashing of teeth, doomsday predictions (my favorite was how O was going to install himself as dictator for life). It was quite remarkable. That's why I wonder why ya'll object so strenuously to one or two "butterflies" that find Trump to be a little less than desirable? Gotta admit, Trump provides more entertainment than any president I've ever seen. He flip-flops on issues faster than a trout on a sandbar.
YOU became a member in Oct. 2016
Ain't hard to look back and see what the dust up was like. It makes for great midnight reading when insomnia strikes...:)
That goes into some depth about what I was talkin' about yesterday. He's losing Congress.
"Putting aside the question of whether Trump should be president, what congressional Republicans are realizing is that their protection may not be enough to keep him as president, and that changes the calculus significantly. Trump has so infuriated the intelligence agencies that leaks will reveal his misdeeds whether or not congressional Republicans launch a real investigation. Trump can’t be confidently defended in public, because he will contradict his own White House and his own surrogates, making it dangerous for top Republicans to yoke themselves to his explanations. (On the night the Comey memo broke, Fox News’s Bret Baier complained that he couldn’t get a single Republican to come on his show to argue the president’s case.)
You can think of Republicans and Trump as caught in a prisoner’s dilemma: Both would benefit from cooperating to suppress the flow of awful stories about Trump, but if Trump is temperamentally incapable of acting in a disciplined, restrained manner, then it might behoove congressional Republicans to get ahead of the revelations about his conduct rather than being caught behind them.
Then there is the hardest question, the one that gnaws at the souls of even Trump’s protectors. Is this a man who can really be trusted with nuclear weapons, with the surveillance state, with America’s response to a genuine crisis? We are watching Trump respond to pressure and he is failing terribly. We are watching Trump faced with easy ethical dilemmas and he is failing miserably. So far, the consequences — with the exception of sharing Israeli intelligence with Russian officials — have mostly been confined to Trump humiliating himself. But it is easy to see how these same tendencies lead to disaster if and when Trump misjudges his response to a true emergency.
All this has left Republicans increasingly uncertain as to whether protecting Trump is wise for their careers, or for their country. “Chatter has begun about what a President Mike Pence might look like,” reports Politico."
And...
"Republicans will not vote for impeachment tomorrow. They know Trump’s fall would be a calamity for their party, and they would like to avoid it if possible. Trump’s actions in recent weeks, however, have persuaded many Republicans that it would be a good thing to have an independent commission or counsel investigate Trump, because if the worst happens and information is revealed that forces Trump’s resignation or impeachment, well, perhaps that’s not such a bad thing after all — particularly if Republicans can get some of the credit rather than all of the blame."
But you should read the piece. It's well done and has plenty of links to follow for further reading. Get y'all out of your bubble.
And snowflake nation having their 8 month and counting meltdown over a fairly won election? I don't remember the GOP or conservatives crying like little babies when Obama won, twice.
Oh, were you AWOL from the 'fire then? Lots of crying and nashing of teeth, doomsday predictions (my favorite was how O was going to install himself as dictator for life). It was quite remarkable. That's why I wonder why ya'll object so strenuously to one or two "butterflies" that find Trump to be a little less than desirable? Gotta admit, Trump provides more entertainment than any president I've ever seen. He flip-flops on issues faster than a trout on a sandbar.
YOU became a member in Oct. 2016
Ain't hard to look back and see what the dust up was like. It makes for great midnight reading when insomnia strikes...:)
And snowflake nation having their 8 month and counting meltdown over a fairly won election? I don't remember the GOP or conservatives crying like little babies when Obama won, twice.
Oh, were you AWOL from the 'fire then? Lots of crying and nashing of teeth, doomsday predictions (my favorite was how O was going to install himself as dictator for life). It was quite remarkable. That's why I wonder why ya'll object so strenuously to one or two "butterflies" that find Trump to be a little less than desirable? Gotta admit, Trump provides more entertainment than any president I've ever seen. He flip-flops on issues faster than a trout on a sandbar.
You seem to be having trouble grasping what I'm talking about (not surprised considering) so let's try again. When did the GOP/conservatives go into epic meltdown mode and cause chaos at townhalls, attack the opposition physically, and call for impeachment on day 1??
Don't bother looking it up because it didn't happen.
So you're just another troll probably brought to this site by your mentor and liberal traitor JeffO. You're not worth wasting any more of my precious time on.
I honestly do not GAF what you lefties want. That is pretty much how it was for the eight years prior to Trumps inauguration for anyone that disagreed with the left. I'm by no means here to be 'civil' towards anyone that backs the destruction of the USA.
This is some phony drivel posted about a week ago on the fringe that has been recirculted today with a few new pics and further wet dreams. Are you scraping the barrel bottom, Jello?
This is how I got hurt. Gives me the heebies just to look at that pic- thanks for that. I can't remember the accident itself, or until some several hours later in the hospital. I do remember when I was finally able to tell the doctors what day t was. It was like coming out of a nightmarish fog of confusion and fear. The other driver was killed. It was 100% his fault. What followed was the worst couple years of my life to date.
I would never equate my experience to that of our heroic combat vets, but the truth is I was told I had PTSD about 9 months afterwards by a psychologist. It seemed odd to me, in that I couldn't remember a damn thing, yet I'm supposed to be traumatized by it? But I guess so. I was conscious, just not forming memories... they tell me... I've never been comfortable calling it PTSD but that's what THEY called it.... anyway, I was getting exhaustive cognitive tests done at the time (yeah, that'll [bleep] with your head) to document the deep cognitive deficits I was experiencing, in support of my insurance claim. In that process I talked to several psychologists. It was honestly quite beneficial, kinda changed my opinion of shrinks.
A man died in this accident, a good man by all accounts. I don't want to talk further about it. Please be adults here, and let it go.
This is some phony drivel posted about a week ago on the fringe that has been recirculted today with a few new pics and further wet dreams. Are you scraping the barrel bottom, Jello?
That article is dated May 22. Did you even read it?
I would never equate my experience to that of our heroic combat vets, but the truth is I was told I had PTSD about 9 months afterwards by a psychologist. It seemed odd to me, in that I couldn't remember a damn thing, yet I'm supposed to be traumatized by it? But I guess so. I was conscious, just not forming memories... they tell me... I've never been comfortable calling it PTSD but that's what THEY called it.... anyway, I was getting exhaustive cognitive tests done at the time (yeah, that'll [bleep] with your head) to document the deep cognitive deficits I was experiencing, in support of my insurance claim. In that process I talked to several psychologists. It was honestly quite beneficial, kinda changed my opinion of shrinks.
A man died in this accident, a good man by all accounts. I don't want to talk further about it. Please be adults here, and let it go.
You're lucky to be alive, God bless the man that passed...best wishes to you and a full healthy life.
This is how I got hurt. Gives me the heebies just to look at that pic- thanks for that. I can't remember the accident itself, or until some several hours later in the hospital. I do remember when I was finally able to tell the doctors what day t was. It was like coming out of a nightmarish fog of confusion and fear. The other driver was killed. It was 100% his fault. What followed was the worst couple years of my life to date.
I would never equate my experience to that of our heroic combat vets, but the truth is I was told I had PTSD about 9 months afterwards by a psychologist. It seemed odd to me, in that I couldn't remember a damn thing, yet I'm supposed to be traumatized by it? But I guess so. I was conscious, just not forming memories... they tell me... I've never been comfortable calling it PTSD but that's what THEY called it.... anyway, I was getting exhaustive cognitive tests done at the time (yeah, that'll [bleep] with your head) to document the deep cognitive deficits I was experiencing, in support of my insurance claim. In that process I talked to several psychologists. It was honestly quite beneficial, kinda changed my opinion of shrinks.
A man died in this accident, a good man by all accounts. I don't want to talk further about it. Please be adults here, and let it go.
Hey dramaboy, YOU posted it, in all your troll like disingenious manner.
It would be ever so enlightening for the pack here to outline the acceptable way someone could argue that Trump and his administration is, shall we say, undesirable. You don't like Jeff's approach which is far more civil and rational than your own. Ya'll claim to being open minded, logical, rational, American, etc,. etc., but your behaviors doesn't demonstrate it on any of those counts.
So, how is it supposed to be done? Obviously, you have all condemned anything and everything that ya'll used to go after O and H from 2008-16, so those approaches are out. Jeff's approach is out. What's left? Fill us in on how someone should be able to have an independent, nonPC opinion on this website without become reviled and denigrated in the way ya'll have gone after Jeff et al.
Me thinks there isn't away. No tolerance for an opposing point of view. The code of behavior here seems to be follow the pack or prepare to be attacked by the mob. Let's here of some other options.
Meanwhile, one guy, on his own has pretty much generated almost 500 posts and over 11k views on just one thread. What would Rick do w/o Jeff?
Tolerance, where's the tolerance for President Trump from you leftist?? It does not exist.
Remember, the goal here is to find something that is logical. Which would suggest that Trump supporters might not expect more tolerance than they gave to Obama just last year. Now, show me where the fire was tolerant of Obama and maybe we can get somewhere. You can't ask for behavior that you can't give, that's rule #1.
Please point to one protest against O that turned violent due to paid R obstructionists...
And snowflake nation having their 8 month and counting meltdown over a fairly won election? I don't remember the GOP or conservatives crying like little babies when Obama won, twice.
Oh, were you AWOL from the 'fire then? Lots of crying and nashing of teeth, doomsday predictions (my favorite was how O was going to install himself as dictator for life). It was quite remarkable. That's why I wonder why ya'll object so strenuously to one or two "butterflies" that find Trump to be a little less than desirable? Gotta admit, Trump provides more entertainment than any president I've ever seen. He flip-flops on issues faster than a trout on a sandbar.
Oh yeah. All the conservatives were calling for his impeachment. I remember that dream, uh, I think.
This is how I got hurt. Gives me the heebies just to look at that pic- thanks for that. I can't remember the accident itself, or until some several hours later in the hospital. I do remember when I was finally able to tell the doctors what day t was. It was like coming out of a nightmarish fog of confusion and fear. The other driver was killed. It was 100% his fault. What followed was the worst couple years of my life to date.
I would never equate my experience to that of our heroic combat vets, but the truth is I was told I had PTSD about 9 months afterwards by a psychologist. It seemed odd to me, in that I couldn't remember a damn thing, yet I'm supposed to be traumatized by it? But I guess so. I was conscious, just not forming memories... they tell me... I've never been comfortable calling it PTSD but that's what THEY called it.... anyway, I was getting exhaustive cognitive tests done at the time (yeah, that'll [bleep] with your head) to document the deep cognitive deficits I was experiencing, in support of my insurance claim. In that process I talked to several psychologists. It was honestly quite beneficial, kinda changed my opinion of shrinks.
A man died in this accident, a good man by all accounts. I don't want to talk further about it. Please be adults here, and let it go.
Hey dramaboy, YOU posted it, in all your troll like disingenious manner.
IIRC, I originally mentioned the PTSD is support of our combat vets... again going from memory, my comment was that it's a truly miserable experience and if what they are experiencing is anything like what I did, we cannot possibly do enough to help them.
It resolved after a year and a half or so, though the last few months were pure hell in that I was starting to despair that it was permanent. It's no way to live. A dog barks, and you get a prickly sweat. Your wife clanks two dishes together, and your body goes full fight or flight. Whatever it is we do to help our troops, it ain't enough.
This is how I got hurt. Gives me the heebies just to look at that pic- thanks for that. I can't remember the accident itself, or until some several hours later in the hospital. I do remember when I was finally able to tell the doctors what day t was. It was like coming out of a nightmarish fog of confusion and fear. The other driver was killed. It was 100% his fault. What followed was the worst couple years of my life to date.
I would never equate my experience to that of our heroic combat vets, but the truth is I was told I had PTSD about 9 months afterwards by a psychologist. It seemed odd to me, in that I couldn't remember a damn thing, yet I'm supposed to be traumatized by it? But I guess so. I was conscious, just not forming memories... they tell me... I've never been comfortable calling it PTSD but that's what THEY called it.... anyway, I was getting exhaustive cognitive tests done at the time (yeah, that'll [bleep] with your head) to document the deep cognitive deficits I was experiencing, in support of my insurance claim. In that process I talked to several psychologists. It was honestly quite beneficial, kinda changed my opinion of shrinks.
A man died in this accident, a good man by all accounts. I don't want to talk further about it. Please be adults here, and let it go.
Ok. Trump is undesirable, to many. Fact is, he was legally elected. Of course, facts and legalities are of no real consequence to jerkoffs like you two.
Now, piss and moan on.
Obama was legally elected. Clinton was legally elected. Made no difference to jerkoffs like the pack here. Please, try for some semblance of rational thought. Linear logic is always simplest. Work on it, jag.
Only way Shiitlery would be legit would be if the US were a pure democracy, which i realize Shiitley and Zero calls us. You might try to learn the term Dimocratic Republic and read up on this document called a constitution and the laws passed by duly elected lowyers.
This is how I got hurt. Gives me the heebies just to look at that pic- thanks for that. I can't remember the accident itself, or until some several hours later in the hospital. I do remember when I was finally able to tell the doctors what day t was. It was like coming out of a nightmarish fog of confusion and fear. The other driver was killed. It was 100% his fault. What followed was the worst couple years of my life to date.
I would never equate my experience to that of our heroic combat vets, but the truth is I was told I had PTSD about 9 months afterwards by a psychologist. It seemed odd to me, in that I couldn't remember a damn thing, yet I'm supposed to be traumatized by it? But I guess so. I was conscious, just not forming memories... they tell me... I've never been comfortable calling it PTSD but that's what THEY called it.... anyway, I was getting exhaustive cognitive tests done at the time (yeah, that'll [bleep] with your head) to document the deep cognitive deficits I was experiencing, in support of my insurance claim. In that process I talked to several psychologists. It was honestly quite beneficial, kinda changed my opinion of shrinks.
A man died in this accident, a good man by all accounts. I don't want to talk further about it. Please be adults here, and let it go.
Hey dramaboy, YOU posted it, in all your troll like disingenious manner.
IIRC, I originally mentioned the PTSD is support of our combat vets... again going from memory, my comment was that it's a truly miserable experience and if what they are experiencing is anything like what I did, we cannot possibly do enough to help them.
It resolved after a year and a half or so, though the last few months were pure hell in that I was starting to despair that it was permanent. It's no way to live. A dog barks, and you get a prickly sweat. Your wife clanks two dishes together, and your body goes full fight or flight. Whatever it is we do to help our troops, it ain't enough.
We done with this?
I don't know, are YOU done with it?
Or are you gonna bring it up again at some strategic moment, as an excuse, or to garner sympathy? And then, at some later time, deny that you did? Its so convenient for you, isn't it?
This is some phony drivel posted about a week ago on the fringe that has been recirculated today with a few new pics and further wet dreams. Are you scraping the barrel bottom, Jello?
That article is dated May 22. Did you even read it?
Yes I did. About a week ago when it didn't have all of the pictures and narrative that today's version has. It shows that the old addage that if you feed them [bleep] and tell them that it's dutch chocolate enough times, some will develop a taste for "dutch chocolate".
Again, so it doesn't get lost on the last page... this just cracks me up... can you imagine the reaction if Obama had curtsied for the Saud king then done THIS?! And look at their expressions. Priceless.
Again, so it doesn't get lost on the last page... this just cracks me up... can you imagine the reaction if Obama had curtsied for the Saud king then done THIS?! And look at their expressions. Priceless.
Just a little levity on a contentious thread.
Nahh, he just bowed and begged for his forgiveness for all the evil America has done to his country. Your' f'kn idiot.
Again, so it doesn't get lost on the last page... this just cracks me up... can you imagine the reaction if Obama had curtsied for the Saud king then done THIS?! And look at their expressions. Priceless.
Just a little levity on a contentious thread.
LOL!! Wet dreams are definitely your thing.
And I'm calling bullshit on the levity on your part. You say something divisive and then you hide behind something else. You're a pathetic loser.
Matt Flynn is in a world of shït, and his request for immunity makes more sense with every passing moment. He's one of the linchpins to this whole affair.
Of course I could be wrong. Who wants to bet me a box of bullets now?
If you guys had faith in your take on this stuff you'd be all over that bet.
Did you see the statement below one of the pictures at the link you provided?
It reads, "The first lady watched on as her Trump gave a delicate bend of the knee to allow the king to place the medal around his neck."
BTW - I had seen the link before you posted it and I grinned when I saw the video and the photo I just mentioned. Neither of them verify the headline unless you're gorged on dutch chocolate.
Barry didn't get a medal when he bowed. Whats up with that?
Unfortunately psychologists have watered down to the term PTSD to mean just about anything. You were spanked by your mama, you have PTSD, your parents divorced, you have PTSD, you lost an arm and leg in combat and wake up every night in a cold sweat, you have PTSD.
Seems almost every other one of my wife's cases one of the parties is suffering from PTSD. Only a few of those cases involve combat vets.
Unfortunately psychologists have watered down to the term PTSD to mean just about anything. You were spanked by your mama, you have PTSD, your parents divorced, you have PTSD, you lost an arm and leg in combat and wake up every night in a cold sweat, you have PTSD.
Seems almost every other one of my wife's cases one of the parties is suffering from PTSD. Only a few of those cases involve combat vets.
Curtsy ??? Trump is 1 foot taller than the King, he stooped down to make it easy on the lazy puke ... no need messing your hair up for photo ops either.
I don't see a curtsy in the slightest, but the First Lady looks pissed to be there.
Curtsy ??? Trump is 1 foot taller than the King, he stooped down to make it easy on the lazy puke ... no need messing your hair up for photo ops either.
I don't see a curtsy in the slightest, but the First Lady looks pissed to be there.
After he straightens up, he does a submissive lil knee-dip.
Personally I think he was just trying not to wee himself!
Matt Flynn is in a world of shït, and his request for immunity makes more sense with every passing moment. He's one of the linchpins to this whole affair.
Of course I could be wrong. Who wants to bet me a box of bullets now?
If you guys had faith in your take on this stuff you'd be all over that bet.
Matt Flynn is in a world of shït, and his request for immunity makes more sense with every passing moment. He's one of the linchpins to this whole affair.
Of course I could be wrong. Who wants to bet me a box of bullets now?
If you guys had faith in your take on this stuff you'd be all over that bet.
Matt Flynn is in a world of shït, and his request for immunity makes more sense with every passing moment. He's one of the linchpins to this whole affair.
Of course I could be wrong. Who wants to bet me a box of bullets now?
If you guys had faith in your take on this stuff you'd be all over that bet.
Curtsy ??? Trump is 1 foot taller than the King, he stooped down to make it easy on the lazy puke ... no need messing your hair up for photo ops either.
I don't see a curtsy in the slightest, but the First Lady looks pissed to be there.
After he straightens up, he does a submissive lil knee-dip.
Personally I think he was just trying not to wee himself!
CurtsyGate! Impeach him!
And this is the stuff that gets you liberals all in a tizzy, stupid [bleep] that a normal person wouldn't even notice. And you wonder why nobody takes you serious.
Just a couple of minutes of searching, more lies from the doper. Relates to his "PTSD" not to mention yet another glaring lie:
Originally Posted by Jeff_O
Originally Posted by okie
It would be nice to know that Jeffy was no longer the socialist he proved himself to be before and that maybe his children are smarter than he was...
I will do this ONE TIME so listen up <g>. I do not argue politics anymore. I do not FOLLOW politics anymore. I sucked at it anyway <g>. I'm done with that [bleep].
I did not vote for Obama in 2012. I voted for the party who's platform most closely aligns with my personal bitches' brew of politics, which is Libertarian. I will be following that path for the foreseeable future. I cannot abide either the Democratic or Republucan party platforms.
DocRocket, I'd say I got 90-something percent of the way back. It was a doozy. From there, it's about compensation and adaption and MOVING FORWARDS. If you have a patient so stricken, I found highly aerobic exercise to be a huge benefit in alleviating the anxiety, depression, and PTSD symptoms.
Thanks for well wishes from those who sent them. I'm not hanging around for the beat down. Enjoy---
That's the post I was referencing in my first post. Thanks Jorge.
Now, Jeff you are a real piece of work. You posted this;
Total fabricated bullshit. You are, quite simply, making that up about the ladder. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt that you are simply a confused idiot, rather than intentionally maliciously lying, for the moment, while you go search your little patootie off looking for that post, because here's the truth: it does not exist. Period. End of story. I've never fallen off a ladder, and my head injury happened in a car wreck, and I've NEVER said otherwise.
If you have a speck of honor, you'll do your searches, realize you screwed up, and apologize for calling another man a liar in what was, in fact a lie by YOU. I will give you the opportunity to do so. Got honor? Integrity? Prove it.
I remember when you had your accident. IIRC you said you had a car accident. So in that particular instance you were telling the truth. But..... you then end it with more bullshit. You have no honor, a liar calling another man a liar is beyond funny. And ironic.
So let's do an arrogance test find out who is and is not. Post: "I might be wrong" right here. So your turn, gays. I'll help ya. Repeat after me, we'll take it slow:
Gotta love this quote from his post but he is right about that last part: I do not argue politics anymore. I do not FOLLOW politics anymore. I sucked at it anyway.
Matt Flynn is in a world of shït, and his request for immunity makes more sense with every passing moment. He's one of the linchpins to this whole affair.
Of course I could be wrong. Who wants to bet me a box of bullets now?
If you guys had faith in your take on this stuff you'd be all over that bet.
And snowflake nation having their 8 month and counting meltdown over a fairly won election? I don't remember the GOP or conservatives crying like little babies when Obama won, twice.
Oh, were you AWOL from the 'fire then? Lots of crying and nashing of teeth, doomsday predictions (my favorite was how O was going to install himself as dictator for life). It was quite remarkable. That's why I wonder why ya'll object so strenuously to one or two "butterflies" that find Trump to be a little less than desirable? Gotta admit, Trump provides more entertainment than any president I've ever seen. He flip-flops on issues faster than a trout on a sandbar.
Leroy, its plain to see that you are a really sharp guy. It should be easy for you to explain to us why it benefits the US to have open borders, import millions of muzzie refugees, have us taxpayers foot the bill for providing medical care free to them, not require health screening of the border jumping central american kids being put in schools with our kids, etc.
Tell us why we are smart enough to do stuff like this under Zero when China, Japan and Saudi Arabia havent been able to figure its a good thing to do, please?
Unfortunately psychologists have watered down to the term PTSD to mean just about anything. You were spanked by your mama, you have PTSD, your parents divorced, you have PTSD, you lost an arm and leg in combat and wake up every night in a cold sweat, you have PTSD.
Seems almost every other one of my wife's cases one of the parties is suffering from PTSD. Only a few of those cases involve combat vets.
Matt Flynn is in a world of shït, and his request for immunity makes more sense with every passing moment. He's one of the linchpins to this whole affair.
Of course I could be wrong. Who wants to bet me a box of bullets now?
If you guys had faith in your take on this stuff you'd be all over that bet.
Matt Flynn is in a world of shït, and his request for immunity makes more sense with every passing moment. He's one of the linchpins to this whole affair.
Of course I could be wrong. Who wants to bet me a box of bullets now?
If you guys had faith in your take on this stuff you'd be all over that bet.
12344, you need to tighten up the parameters of that offer... unless you just want to send me the 10 boxes tomorrow? Midway has my favorite LR bullets in stock so if that's what you want to do, let me know. Otherwise, make an offer that's not retarded on the face of it... since we already know Flynn talked to the Russians as a matter of record.
I didn't say I'd take just any harebrained bet y'all cooked up, either. I said box of bullets that collusion is shown before the '18 midterms (that's a summary, we'll tighten up terms if we bet).... THAT'S the bet Jorge weaseled out of.
Looks like Comey isn't testifying Wednesday after all. He wants to talk with Mueller before testifying publically. My guess? Mueller wants just a little more time before initiating the shït/fan protocol onto Mr. Trump, and what Comey would've said, would've done so.
But, I could be wrong. I mean I doubt it, but anything is possible.
12344, you need to tighten up the parameters of that offer... unless you just want to send me the 10 boxes tomorrow? Midway has my favorite LR bullets in stock so if that's what you want to do, let me know. Otherwise, make an offer that's not retarded on the face of it... since we already know Flynn talked to the Russians as a matter of record.
I didn't say I'd take just any harebrained bet y'all cooked up, either. I said box of bullets that collusion is shown before the '18 midterms (that's a summary, we'll tighten up terms if we bet).... THAT'S the bet Jorge weaseled out of.
Looks like Comey isn't testifying Wednesday after all. He wants to talk with Mueller before testifying publically. My guess? Mueller wants just a little more time before initiating the shït/fan protocol onto Mr. Trump, and what Comey would've said, would've done so.
But, I could be wrong. I mean I doubt it, but anything is possible.
12344mag, take the bet before the retard pulls his head out of his ass for air. I'd take it but the retard won't make a bet with me.
Matt Flynn is in a world of shït, and his request for immunity makes more sense with every passing moment. He's one of the linchpins to this whole affair.
Of course I could be wrong. Who wants to bet me a box of bullets now?
If you guys had faith in your take on this stuff you'd be all over that bet.
I'll bet you 10 boxes of bullets that Matt Flynn had absolutely no conversations with Russians, not even 1.
1 box of opened bullets is worth more than 10 sealed boxes. 😉
Think the little weasel will back out claiming PTSD?
Originally Posted by Jeff_O
12344, you need to tighten up the parameters of that offer... unless you just want to send me the 10 boxes tomorrow? Midway has my favorite LR bullets in stock so if that's what you want to do, let me know. Otherwise, make an offer that's not retarded on the face of it... since we already know Flynn talked to the Russians as a matter of record.
I didn't say I'd take just any harebrained bet y'all cooked up, either. I said box of bullets that collusion is shown before the '18 midterms (that's a summary, we'll tighten up terms if we bet).... THAT'S the bet Jorge weaseled out of.
Looks like Comey isn't testifying Wednesday after all. He wants to talk with Mueller before testifying publically. My guess? Mueller wants just a little more time before initiating the shït/fan protocol onto Mr. Trump, and what Comey would've said, would've done so.
But, I could be wrong. I mean I doubt it, but anything is possible.
The bet you offered is based on the below post on Matt Flynn being part of the Russian Collusion, Agreed?
Just to be clear,
If Matt Flynn had anything to do with any Russian collusion I owe you 10 boxes of bullets, If Matt Flynn is innocent of any collusion with the Russians you owe me 10 boxes of bullets. What kind of time frame would you like? I want to give youy plenty of time to save up your pennies.......
Originally Posted by Jeff_O
Matt Flynn is in a world of shït, and his request for immunity makes more sense with every passing moment. He's one of the linchpins to this whole affair.
Of course I could be wrong. Who wants to bet me a box of bullets now?
If you guys had faith in your take on this stuff you'd be all over that bet.
Matt Flynn is in a world of shït, and his request for immunity makes more sense with every passing moment. He's one of the linchpins to this whole affair.
Of course I could be wrong. Who wants to bet me a box of bullets now?
If you guys had faith in your take on this stuff you'd be all over that bet.
I'll bet you 10 boxes of bullets that Matt Flynn had absolutely no conversations with Russians, not even 1.
1 box of opened bullets is worth more than 10 sealed boxes. 😉
Think the little weasel will back out claiming PTSD?
Originally Posted by Jeff_O
12344, you need to tighten up the parameters of that offer... unless you just want to send me the 10 boxes tomorrow? Midway has my favorite LR bullets in stock so if that's what you want to do, let me know. Otherwise, make an offer that's not retarded on the face of it... since we already know Flynn talked to the Russians as a matter of record.
I didn't say I'd take just any harebrained bet y'all cooked up, either. I said box of bullets that collusion is shown before the '18 midterms (that's a summary, we'll tighten up terms if we bet).... THAT'S the bet Jorge weaseled out of.
Looks like Comey isn't testifying Wednesday after all. He wants to talk with Mueller before testifying publically. My guess? Mueller wants just a little more time before initiating the shït/fan protocol onto Mr. Trump, and what Comey would've said, would've done so.
But, I could be wrong. I mean I doubt it, but anything is possible.
The bet you offered is based on the below post on Matt Flynn being part of the Russian Collusion, Agreed?
Just to be clear,
If Matt Flynn had anything to do with any Russian collusion I owe you 10 boxes of bullets, If Matt Flynn is innocent of any collusion with the Russians you owe me 10 boxes of bullets. What kind of time frame would you like? I want to give youy plenty of time to save up your pennies.......
Originally Posted by Jeff_O
Matt Flynn is in a world of shït, and his request for immunity makes more sense with every passing moment. He's one of the linchpins to this whole affair.
Of course I could be wrong. Who wants to bet me a box of bullets now?
If you guys had faith in your take on this stuff you'd be all over that bet.
Matt Flynn was a back-up QB in the NFL.. Retired General Michael Flynn is the traitor who will be executed for treason. Get you Flynn's straight.
You should direct that post to your fellow retard and butt buddy Jeff, who got it wrong in the first place with 12344 trying to capitalize on Jeff's stupidity. Then again, it's you and you're not real bright.
I said box of bullets that collusion is shown before the '18 midterms (that's a summary, we'll tighten up terms if we bet).... THAT'S the bet Jorge weaseled out of.
:
You should consider renting yourself an idiot to do the moderately simple thinking for you as it's obvious you can't handle it. Weasel? that is your purview not mine. I'll state it again, I'll wager 10:1 odds one currency or item (as in one box of bullets and I'll pay tenfold in case the ratio numbers frightened and confused you) as to your postulation above. Clear enough you dope smoking lying pussified moron? And speaking of "weaseling" I see you've ignored the several inks I've posted regarding your pathological prevarication syndrome. But here, stick this up your orifice, you're good at that: Comey memo
Unfortunately psychologists have watered down to the term PTSD to mean just about anything. You were spanked by your mama, you have PTSD, your parents divorced, you have PTSD, you lost an arm and leg in combat and wake up every night in a cold sweat, you have PTSD.
Seems almost every other one of my wife's cases one of the parties is suffering from PTSD. Only a few of those cases involve combat vets.
I'm betting Jello is Googling Matt Flynn and texting with Stargazer trying to get their message coherent. They'll probably have proof before lunch that Matt Flynn is indeed a Russian operative. Now Putin's influencing the NFL. Nothing is sacred!
Matt Flynn is in a world of shït, and his request for immunity makes more sense with every passing moment. He's one of the linchpins to this whole affair.
Of course I could be wrong. Who wants to bet me a box of bullets now?
If you guys had faith in your take on this stuff you'd be all over that bet.
I'll bet you 10 boxes of bullets that Matt Flynn had absolutely no conversations with Russians, not even 1.
Originally Posted by Jeff_O
12344, you need to tighten up the parameters of that offer... unless you just want to send me the 10 boxes tomorrow? Midway has my favorite LR bullets in stock so if that's what you want to do, let me know. Otherwise, make an offer that's not retarded on the face of it... since we already know Flynn talked to the Russians as a matter of record.
I didn't say I'd take just any harebrained bet y'all cooked up, either. I said box of bullets that collusion is shown before the '18 midterms (that's a summary, we'll tighten up terms if we bet).... THAT'S the bet Jorge weaseled out of.
Looks like Comey isn't testifying Wednesday after all. He wants to talk with Mueller before testifying publically. My guess? Mueller wants just a little more time before initiating the shït/fan protocol onto Mr. Trump, and what Comey would've said, would've done so.
But, I could be wrong. I mean I doubt it, but anything is possible.
You find out what bullets 12344mag wants yet? You owe him 10 new boxes......
I'm betting Jello is Googling Matt Flynn and texting with Stargazer trying to get their message coherent. They'll probably have proof before lunch that Matt Flynn is indeed a Russian operative. Now Putin's influencing the NFL. Nothing is sacred!
That bastard, I knew it! There is NO way the Falcons could have blown that lead in the Super Bowl without Belechik and Brady colluding with Putin and the Russians.
I'm betting Jello is Googling Matt Flynn and texting with Stargazer trying to get their message coherent. They'll probably have proof before lunch that Matt Flynn is indeed a Russian operative. Now Putin's influencing the NFL. Nothing is sacred!
That bastard, I knew it! There is NO way the Falcons could have blown that lead in the Super Bowl without Belechik and Brady colluding with Putin and the Russians.
Dang!! This whole conspiracy could be much wider than originally thought. How will the NFL contain it now that the Libs know. CNN will be flaggig it by late afternoon.
This is not going to end well for the Patriots. Nope. I might be wrong, but how many of you are man enough to say maybe there is collusion in the NFL?
"Fox News reports unnamed NFL sources close to the situation confirm that Putin had operatives meet with Bill Bellichik the week before the Super Bowl, and gave him hacked copies of the Falcon's playbook. Other source have indicated that the JeffObama administration surveilled Matt Ryan all during the playoffs and intensely during the 2 weeks before the big game. James Comey, before leaving office, told a Senate Subcommittee on NFL Transparency that 'While many irregularities have been found, including film of Gronk and Putin bathing together, no intent of gay love can be found'. Georgia Governor Nathan Deal is demanding a full investigation. Senate Minority Leaders Chuck Schumer (D - A-hole) has blocked all calls for a Special Prosecutor saying that 'Although I am a Jets fan, Georgia went Red so phouc them' CNN reports that Donald Trump was photographed grabbing Giselle's ass, but sources have yet to provide the photo."
Jorge- I'll dig back to the post I made with definitions of collusion etc and we'll formally make the bet, assuming you agree to the definitions etc.
Slow news day in Trumpland, which I think is a good thing for him. It's a good opportunity to further address something that seems to mystify some of you, as evidenced by multiple repeats of the same basic question, which is how did the Russians affect the election anyway? At first I was kinda disbelieving that it was a serious question but as we've conversed it's become clear to me just how far into a bubble some here are, and combined with the white-hot hatred of Hillary that had decades to ripen, I guess I can understand? Anyway, I'm just a regular dude, and it's far beyond my pay grade to understand much less explain the full effects of the Ruski interference; that'll get sorted out by academics and government commissions or whomever over the coming decades. And it's irrelevant anyway in terms of what happens next in the "fall of Trump"; the election won't be reversed or done over, nor should it be.
But I thought this story might help illuminate things for a few of you. One of the more brilliant things the Russians did, other than the fake news they managed to dupe you suckers guys with, was to greatly amplify "the emails" as a campaign negative. They did this with relentless and carefully-timed releases of hacked DNC emails; but the effect was to blur, confuse, and finally just overwhelm people with "Hillary's email problem". Remember, her REAL email problem was because she used a private server when SoS; the hacked DNC stuff was completely seperate from that and really, not a big deal to HER. But Russia succeeded in blurring it all into one big constant "the emails" stank. This article illuminates that very well:
I can tell you that this had a very tangible effect on the electorate based on conversations I had with my liberal friends. By election time, most of them were voting for her anyway (but importantly-- not all!) but were just fatigued and worn down about "the emails" and quite negative towards her. This is LIBERALS. Now imagine swing voters. Take Wiki and Russia out of the equation and "the emails" mayhem would've been confined to the usual sources- the FBI, and the nutjob alt.right. The former generally plays fair in elections, generally, and the latter are easily dismissed as partisan idiots being partisan idiots (no offense, guys, just the truth), so I can say with certainty that the Russians DID effect the election, I saw it happening.
(Remember, up until the debates I was still trying to convince folks around here to at least give Trump a thoughtful listen... after he showed himself to be a joke in the debates, I gave up on THAT. But prior, I was actively engaging a number of my liberal friends; I had my finger of the pulse so to speak. )
So in my mind there are two really important reasons why it matters if the Trump campaign colluded with Russia. First, it did affect and likely SWUNG the election. Trumps margin was what, ~ 75k swing voters in 3 states? That's RAZOR thin. So, if he/they colluded, then they cheated. In America we void victories via cheating because, well, that's what honorable people DO (Bigfish, that's not you). Trump doesn't get to be POTUS if he cheated that badly. Period. Second, any members of the campaign who did so are compromised. Again, period. Mic drop. End of story. Russia has immense leverage on them. Or, to allow the benefit of the doubt, Russia WOULD have enormous leverage on them should this turn out to be the case.
If you are skeptical about my second point, ask yourselves this- Would Jorge have accepted a commander of his aircraft carrier who became commander by colluding with Russian intelligence to take out his rivals on his way up the ladder? I'll let him answer that. But if that wouldn't be ok, why would it be ok if HIS commander (the POTUS) did it?
I will educate y'all further as time allows today. This is like teaching Remedial Politics for Retards but if this is my row to hoe, so be it.
Hillary lost because she is an unlikable criminal. Russia had nothing to do with anything at all. The email handling is a big deal, and demonstrably criminal. Period. Mishandling classified material is criminal, regardless of intent. Get that through your thick skull.
Jorge- here you go. Read this and let me know if you want to clarify or change anything BEFORE we formalize the bet. Also, you originally proposed 5:1 odds. Now you say 10:1. I'll let you decide which you are currently proposing.
Originally Posted by Jeff_O
Originally Posted by jorgeI
Originally Posted by Jeff_O
Want to bet me a box of bullets that before the midterms in 2018, it'll be shown that campaign members were in collusion with Russia?
Define "collusion" and I'll give you 5:1 odds on that bet. If I win, you give me one box and if I lose I'll give you five
Well, you don't qualify as a reasonable man in my book, but we could still do this.
We'd need to really nail things down to avoid potential conflict later.
Here's a few definitions of collusion. First, from Wiki:
Collusion is an agreement between two or more parties, sometimes illegal and therefore secretive, to limit open competition by deceiving, misleading, or defrauding others of their legal rights, or to obtain an objective forbidden by law typically by defrauding or gaining an unfair market advantage.
Here's what is top-of-page with a Google search:
secret or illegal cooperation or conspiracy, especially in order to cheat or deceive others
Here's Webster:
secret agreement or cooperation especially for an illegal or deceitful purpose
Do you see any problems or confusion there? If so let's air that out now.
More to the point is defining a) who was "a member of his campaign" and b) what it means that they are shown to have been in collusion.
For the former, I propose ANYONE who ever had any titular acknowledgement by the campaign, however briefly, or was paid or otherwise compensated by the campaign; or was hired by the campaign; including but not limited to "advisor". Page, Stone, Manafort, Flynn are explicitly included.
For the latter I'd propose that definitive public statements by the intelligence services and/or AG office shall suffice. Of course, any convictions will too. Further, being granted immunity doesn't negate their guilt for our purposes, nor does a presidential pardon.
Hillary lost because she is an unlikable criminal. Russia had nothing to do with anything at all. The email handling is a big deal, and demonstrably criminal. Period. Mishandling classified material is criminal, regardless of intent. Get that through your thick skull.
May I present to the class: partisan idiocy, example #1
Jorge- I'll dig back to the post I made with definitions of collusion etc and we'll formally make the bet, assuming you agree to the definitions etc.
Slow news day in Trumpland, which I think is a good thing for him. It's a good opportunity to further address something that seems to mystify some of you, as evidenced by multiple repeats of the same basic question, which is how did the Russians affect the election anyway? At first I was kinda disbelieving that it was a serious question but as we've conversed it's become clear to me just how far into a bubble some here are, and combined with the white-hot hatred of Hillary that had decades to ripen, I guess I can understand? Anyway, I'm just a regular dude, and it's far beyond my pay grade to understand much less explain the full effects of the Ruski interference; that'll get sorted out by academics and government commissions or whomever over the coming decades. And it's irrelevant anyway in terms of what happens next in the "fall of Trump"; the election won't be reversed or done over, nor should it be.
But I thought this story might help illuminate things for a few of you. One of the more brilliant things the Russians did, other than the fake news they managed to dupe you suckers guys with, was to greatly amplify "the emails" as a campaign negative. They did this with relentless and carefully-timed releases of hacked DNC emails; but the effect was to blur, confuse, and finally just overwhelm people with "Hillary's email problem". Remember, her REAL email problem was because she used a private server when SoS; the hacked DNC stuff was completely seperate from that and really, not a big deal to HER. But Russia succeeded in blurring it all into one big constant "the emails" stank. This article illuminates that very well:
I can tell you that this had a very tangible effect on the electorate based on conversations I had with my liberal friends. By election time, most of them were voting for her anyway (but importantly-- not all!) but were just fatigued and worn down about "the emails" and quite negative towards her. This is LIBERALS. Now imagine swing voters. Take Wiki and Russia out of the equation and "the emails" mayhem would've been confined to the usual sources- the FBI, and the nutjob alt.right. The former generally plays fair in elections, generally, and the latter are easily dismissed as partisan idiots being partisan idiots (no offense, guys, just the truth), so I can say with certainty that the Russians DID effect the election, I saw it happening.
(Remember, up until the debates I was still trying to convince folks around here to at least give Trump a thoughtful listen... after he showed himself to be a joke in the debates, I gave up on THAT. But prior, I was actively engaging a number of my liberal friends; I had my finger of the pulse so to speak. )
So in my mind there are two really important reasons why it matters if the Trump campaign colluded with Russia. First, it did affect and likely SWUNG the election. Trumps margin was what, ~ 75k swing voters in 3 states? That's RAZOR thin. So, if he/they colluded, then they cheated. In America we void victories via cheating because, well, that's what honorable people DO (Bigfish, that's not you). Trump doesn't get to be POTUS if he cheated that badly. Period. Second, any members of the campaign who did so are compromised. Again, period. Mic drop. End of story. Russia has immense leverage on them. Or, to allow the benefit of the doubt, Russia WOULD have enormous leverage on them should this turn out to be the case.
If you are skeptical about my second point, ask yourselves this- Would Jorge have accepted a commander of his aircraft carrier who became commander by colluding with Russian intelligence to take out his rivals on his way up the ladder? I'll let him answer that. But if that wouldn't be ok, why would it be ok if HIS commander (the POTUS) did it?
I will educate y'all further as time allows today. This is like teaching Remedial Politics for Retards but if this is my row to hoe, so be it.
Good lord you are as dumb as a box of rocks, If there is a retard in this thread it would be you and you basically admitted it yourself. Let me present exhibit A.
Originally Posted by Jeff_O
I will do this ONE TIME so listen up <g>. I do not argue politics anymore. I do not FOLLOW politics anymore. I sucked at it anyway <g>. I'm done with that [bleep].
I did not vote for Obama in 2012. I voted for the party who's platform most closely aligns with my personal bitches' brew of politics, which is Libertarian. I will be following that path for the foreseeable future. I cannot abide either the Democratic or Republucan party platforms.
DocRocket, I'd say I got 90-something percent of the way back. It was a doozy. From there, it's about compensation and adaption and MOVING FORWARDS. If you have a patient so stricken, I found highly aerobic exercise to be a huge benefit in alleviating the anxiety, depression, and PTSD symptoms.
Thanks for well wishes from those who sent them. I'm not hanging around for the beat down. Enjoy---
So the half wit speaks about partisan idiocy. Jell0 the average Capital murder trial including pre-trial activities is less than one man year of hours. This is to put someone to death. The Russian investigation has been going on for over 9 months with at a minimum of 3 different groups investigating with the unlimited power and money of the Fed and they have squat. FBI, CIA, NSA all the other alphabet agencies additional foreign spy agencies from our allies and nothing. Not one person can say with a straight face that there was collusion between Trump or his associates. Not one! We have speculation and innuendo which if the lieberals have there way will continue for the length of Trumps term. Why because that is all they have. You are nothing more than a mouthpiece spilling drivel like always.
Hillary lost because she is an unlikable criminal. Russia had nothing to do with anything at all. The email handling is a big deal, and demonstrably criminal. Period. Mishandling classified material is criminal, regardless of intent. Get that through your thick skull.
May I present to the class: partisan idiocy, example #1
Look Superman, there is ZERO evidence to support your claims. Come up with some, and I agree wholeheartedly that action be taken. There is no evidence. Partisanship has absolutely nothing to do with it. You are a colossal ass.
Hillary lost because she is an unlikable criminal. Russia had nothing to do with anything at all. The email handling is a big deal, and demonstrably criminal. Period. Mishandling classified material is criminal, regardless of intent. Get that through your thick skull.
May I present to the class: partisan idiocy, example #1
Look Superman, there is ZERO evidence to support your claims. Come up with some, and I agree wholeheartedly that action be taken. There is no evidence. Partisanship has absolutely nothing to do with it. You are a colossal ass.
I'm glad to hear that when evidence is presented, we agree that action must be taken.
Where we seem to differ is that you don't think it'll be presented. I'm certain it will be. Wanna bet a box of bullets on that?
Hillary lost because she is an unlikable criminal. Russia had nothing to do with anything at all. The email handling is a big deal, and demonstrably criminal. Period. Mishandling classified material is criminal, regardless of intent. Get that through your thick skull.
I still want to get to the bottom of the Patriots/Putin scandal! This cost my team the WH, er..I mean the Super Bowl. Resist!
PS- I'm not Superman. I might be exceptionally smart, stunningly good looking, a midlife physical specimen, irresistible to the fair sex, do way more manly things than all y'all combined on a daily basis, very good with my hands, highly skilled with all manner of machinery and tools, a talented small engine mechanic, an excellent rifleman, capable of physical feats in my early 50's yall could only dream of in your prime, an all-around really nice guy, have more actual small-c "conservative" credentials than most here, and be more perceptive about politics WRT Trump than most here... but I'm not Superman. Just a regular ol' dude, pawning retards on the internet with brutal regularity... but I'm not Superman.
With THAT detail squared away, let us return to the real question, which since you ask, is this:
Who here DOES NOT agree that action must be taken if Trump and/or his campaign are shown to have colluded with Russia?
None of your hemming and hawing and deflecting (yeah, like saying that's gonna work ) and attacking the messenger. Man up, gentlemen. Locate your nutsacks (it's that tiny little bump by your man-vag, bigfish), grab aholt of it like a real man, (bigfish, just pretend, 'k?) and tell the [bleep] truth.
who here DOES NOT agree that action must be taken if Trump and/or his campaign are shown to have colluded with Russia?
Why are you fixated with just Russia? Should this not be 'any' politician and 'any' foreign entity? Scratch yer nuts[you know, that tiny lump twixt yer legs] and think about it for a few minutes.
You keep ignoring this quote, you wrote it, own up to it halfwit.
Originally Posted by Jeff_O
I will do this ONE TIME so listen up <g>. I do not argue politics anymore. I do not FOLLOW politics anymore. I sucked at it anyway <g>. I'm done with that [bleep].
I did not vote for Obama in 2012. I voted for the party who's platform most closely aligns with my personal bitches' brew of politics, which is Libertarian. I will be following that path for the foreseeable future. I cannot abide either the Democratic or Republucan party platforms.
DocRocket, I'd say I got 90-something percent of the way back. It was a doozy. From there, it's about compensation and adaption and MOVING FORWARDS. If you have a patient so stricken, I found highly aerobic exercise to be a huge benefit in alleviating the anxiety, depression, and PTSD symptoms.
Thanks for well wishes from those who sent them. I'm not hanging around for the beat down. Enjoy---
PS- I'm not Superman. I might be exceptionally smart, stunningly good looking, a midlife physical specimen, irresistible to the fair sex, do way more manly things than all y'all combined on a daily basis, very good with my hands, highly skilled with all manner of machinery and tools, a talented small engine mechanic, an excellent rifleman, capable of physical feats in my early 50's yall could only dream of in your prime, an all-around really nice guy, have more actual small-c "conservative" credentials than most here, and be more perceptive about politics WRT Trump than most here... but I'm not Superman. Just a regular ol' dude, pawning retards on the internet with brutal regularity... but I'm not Superman.
Don't beat yourself up like that.
As far as physical aspects go, I AM Superman, pal. I have the stats to prove it. Number 1 of all time over 50, drug free bench press of 530 at 58 years old and 177 pounds. Don't EVEN think you're in the same ballpark, because nobody in the world is, at this time. Your ignorance is only exceeded by your arrogance. Seeing as how you are so wrong in that respect, I see no reason to assume you are not full of pucky in other respects. Show me the evidence. Until you have some, shut up. I am uninterested in betting, it proves nothing at all. There is no evidence. None. Nulla. Niente.
I gotta get back to doing Manly Thing (bigfish, that's the opposite of what you are doing).... I'll check back in a bit, ladies.
If you don't answer that question I'm calling you a pussy. Just sayin'.
Living inside your peewee brain, rent free!
Feels good to be home!
Originally Posted by Jeff_O
I will do this ONE TIME so listen up <g>. I do not argue politics anymore. I do not FOLLOW politics anymore. I sucked at it anyway <g>. I'm done with that [bleep].
Former CIA Director John Brennan has said [to the House Intelligence committee] an investigation into possible collusion between Trump campaign officials and the Kremlin is "well-founded". He told the House Intelligence Committee he was aware of intelligence showing contact between Russian officials and "US persons involved in the Trump campaign"
Mr Brennan said the Russians "brazenly interfered" in last November's US elections and were "very aggressive".
Mr Brennan, who stepped down as CIA director in January, testified on Tuesday: "I encountered and am aware of information and intelligence that revealed contacts and interactions between Russian officials and US persons involved in the Trump campaign that I was concerned about because of known Russian efforts to suborn such individuals. "It raised questions in my mind whether or not Russia was able to gain the co-operation of those individuals.
I'm not arguing politics, AKMtn. I'm teaching them to retards. Try to follow.
Bigfish is our first declared pussy, and AK is close because he dodged the question, but we'll give him another chance cause he's actually an ok guy. Who's next? What are ya, chicken to answer the question? Too much cognitive dissonance from it?
30 pages in, bitches. I've taken your "abuse" and listened to your excuses. Time to own it: If collusion is shown, do you still support Trump?
And Jorge, this is getting ridiculous. Make the damn bet or STFU about it. It's in your court. I tried via PM, I've now posted my offer THREE TIMES... are we doing this, or not?
And to anybody else, here's my offer. A box of bullets says collusion is shown before the '18 midterms; we'll tighten up the terms to our mutual satisfaction if any of you pussies guys actually believe the crap you say you do, which I'm starting to doubt.....
Former CIA Director John Brennan has said [to the House Intelligence committee] an investigation into possible collusion between Trump campaign officials and the Kremlin is "well-founded". He told the House Intelligence Committee he was aware of intelligence showing contact between Russian officials and "US persons involved in the Trump campaign"
Mr Brennan said the Russians "brazenly interfered" in last November's US elections and were "very aggressive".
Mr Brennan, who stepped down as CIA director in January, testified on Tuesday: "I encountered and am aware of information and intelligence that revealed contacts and interactions between Russian officials and US persons involved in the Trump campaign that I was concerned about because of known Russian efforts to suborn such individuals. "It raised questions in my mind whether or not Russia was able to gain the co-operation of those individuals.
And that says precisely nothing, Jeff. Contact is not collusion, nor is it illegal. Brennan is hardly non-partisan. Show me where he PROVES collusion, or ANYTHING illegal. Let me answer that. There is no evidence of collusion. If the Russians "brazenly interfered", show me how, and where. Nobody has done that. Of the 2 sides, the left and the DC are looking pretty dirty right now. Lying about debate questions, lying about classified emails, redirecting campaign funds from one candidate to another, etc. These are provable. You have nothing.
I'm not arguing politics, AKMtn. I'm teaching them to retards. Try to follow.
Bigfish is our first declared pussy, and AK is close because he dodged the question, but we'll give him another chance cause he's actually an ok guy. Who's next? What are ya, chicken to answer the question? Too much cognitive dissonance from it?
30 pages in, bitches. I've taken your "abuse" and listened to your excuses. Time to own it: If collusion is shown, do you still support Trump?
And Jorge, this is getting ridiculous. Make the damn bet or STFU about it. It's in your court. I tried via PM, I've now posted my offer THREE TIMES... are we doing this, or not?
And to anybody else, here's my offer. A box of bullets says collusion is shown before the '18 midterms; we'll tighten up the terms to our mutual satisfaction if any of you pussies guys actually believe the crap you say you do, which I'm starting to doubt.....
Aww cupcake, didn't you once say you were above name calling too? In addition to admitting you suck at politics and won't be commenting on such anymore?
Originally Posted by Jeff_O
I will do this ONE TIME so listen up <g>. I do not argue politics anymore. I do not FOLLOW politics anymore. I sucked at it anyway <g>. I'm done with that [bleep].
I'm not arguing politics, AKMtn. I'm teaching them to retards. Try to follow.
Bigfish is our first declared pussy, and AK is close because he dodged the question, but we'll give him another chance cause he's actually an ok guy. Who's next? What are ya, chicken to answer the question? Too much cognitive dissonance from it?
30 pages in, bitches. I've taken your "abuse" and listened to your excuses. Time to own it: If collusion is shown, do you still support Trump?
And Jorge, this is getting ridiculous. Make the damn bet or STFU about it. It's in your court. I tried via PM, I've now posted my offer THREE TIMES... are we doing this, or not?
And to anybody else, here's my offer. A box of bullets says collusion is shown before the '18 midterms; we'll tighten up the terms to our mutual satisfaction if any of you pussies guys actually believe the crap you say you do, which I'm starting to doubt.....
You're a lying sack, talking and arguing politics after you said you wouldn't and I agree, you do SUCK at it. And when Mueller comes out with his report saying there was no collusion, i'll be right here laughing at your stupid ass.
I'm not arguing politics, AKMtn. I'm teaching them to retards. Try to follow.
Bigfish is our first declared pussy, and AK is close because he dodged the question, but we'll give him another chance cause he's actually an ok guy. Who's next? What are ya, chicken to answer the question? Too much cognitive dissonance from it?
30 pages in, bitches. I've taken your "abuse" and listened to your excuses. Time to own it: If collusion is shown, do you still support Trump?
And Jorge, this is getting ridiculous. Make the damn bet or STFU about it. It's in your court. I tried via PM, I've now posted my offer THREE TIMES... are we doing this, or not?
And to anybody else, here's my offer. A box of bullets says collusion is shown before the '18 midterms; we'll tighten up the terms to our mutual satisfaction if any of you pussies guys actually believe the crap you say you do, which I'm starting to doubt.....
You're a lying sack, talking and arguing politics after you said you wouldn't and I agree, you do SUCK at it. And when Mueller comes out with his report saying there was no collusion, i'll be right here laughing at your stupid ass.
Careful friend, Jeff will call you names (but he says he's above all that) and offer to meet up with you for butt sex.
Curdog, I remember from then, and I've noted again recently, that you are a stalwart for civil discourse. Good on ye.
To your point, we are ALL regurgitating here. None of us actually know [bleep] other than what our choice of media is telling us and how we choose to connect the dots in front of us. I believe the majority here are connecting them wrong, mostly because their palette of dots is limited due to them pre-filtering what they are willing to read. So, we all are casting the tea leaves or spilling the cat entrails and making a call as to our interpretation. That's what I'm doing. That's ALL I'm doing. However I'm doing it with persistence, which is being mischaracterized as arrongance, and so I'm getting the standard Campfire toolkit thrown at me. The only thing missing is a certain somebody trying to set me off by insulting my wife. It doesn't matter. I have very thick skin these days or I wouldn't be here.
So, I'm expressing my opinion here, and I'm trying to keep it mostly contained to this thread so that folks can choose to read it, or not. If you choose to read it, that's your call. If it hurts your head, don't read it. I'm not going to stop saying it. Why? Two reasons. First, I think I'm correct. I think Trump and/or campaign associates did collude with Russia to attempt to affect the election. And second, because this is something that people here need to hear! Echo chambers are a harsh mistress when it turns out they are wrong, and many here are stuck in one. I'm trying to HELP. I really am.
If it turns out I'm wrong, I'll own that. Same way I owned it a few days ago when I crossed my own personal line about name-calling (it sure wasn't a line that exists here on the Fire!) and publically apologized to Jorge. Maybe I AM wrong and it's you guys reading the tea leaves correctly and ME in an echo chamber! That's a possibility I'm trying to be open to. Can "you" collectively say the same?
I'm off to make some dough. Got a vexing issue with customer-supplied crappy steel that has hard inclusions that are giving my tooling fits. Gotta try some custom grinds on cutters... hopefully.
Originally Posted by Jeff_O
"Nunes told reporters he had seen new information showing that the communications of Trump transition officials were scooped up through monitoring of other targets and improperly spread through intelligence agencies during the final days of the Obama administration"
"Nunes said the intercepted communications appeared to be legally obtained and were not related to the FBI’s Russia investigation. He said his concern was that the identities of the Trump officials were improperly revealed and the contents of their communications were “widely disseminated” in intelligence reports. Schiff disputed Nunes’ suggestions that there was improper “unmasking.” He said that after speaking with Nunes, it appeared that the names of Americans were still guarded in the intercepts though their identities could be gleaned from the materials"
Ok... enough silly name calling (Wanker started it! grin) ... here's the situation as I see it.
Obama was told something really fishy was happening. As a patriotic American he did his best in the limited time he had left to safeguard our democracy from the threat. What you would rather he'd done?! It would've been literally treasonous for him to ignore this.
Obfuscate and deflect (and wank) all you want, WhelenAway, but the simple fact appears to be that Trump is a traitor and a whole bunch of good Americans are trying to protect America's interests.
No one hates the constitution as much as a two-time Obama voter...
Originally Posted by Jeff_O
I like Doc. I'll try to find his post.
We here (seem to) enjoy jousting and calling names but I have to believe that beneath all this BS we share a common love of the Constitution and of America. I am deeply appalled at the size and scope and reach of our MIC in general and the global extension of our military power specifically. This was never supposed to be "America"; we've become something the founders would hate.
I'm also deeply appalled at the level of surveillance we are under this very minute, all of us. So I'm hardly a patsy for continuation of our current national posture in these regards; I like some of Trump's ideas about NATO and international trade and so on, and I like his potential as an agent of real change.
But before we can proceed to that we simply have to know the truth about Trump/Russia or, conversely, our deep state intel guys. One or the other is traitorous. The tea leaves tell me it's Trump. You guys have got yourselves spun into a place where you'd rather believe the whole government- except the guys you like, natch- are traitorous. We need to figure this out conclusively. There's no other path forward.
Honestly? Many of you know in your hearts that Trump has all the signs of being guilty of this. Hence your vitriol and knee-jerk bitchiness about the whole thing. It's not gonna work. You can't shout this one down.
Whatever the truth is, let's figure it out and get things moving forward. I'll say it one more time. If the traitors here are Obama and the deep state... hang 'em high. I've got the perfect oak tree for it and I'll tie the noose.
Originally Posted by Jeff_O
I'm going to apologize to Jorge for calling him that. I should've used a term like "delicate hothouse flower" or the like. My bad. I got up at 2:30 this morning to drive my kid to the airport. I'm out of sorts and grouchy. That sort of name-calling only damages the conversation, which I have said bums me out... so I'll own it.
I'm not arguing politics, AKMtn. I'm teaching them to retards. Try to follow.
Bigfish is our first declared pussy, and AK is close because he dodged the question, but we'll give him another chance cause he's actually an ok guy. Who's next? What are ya, chicken to answer the question? Too much cognitive dissonance from it?
30 pages in, bitches. I've taken your "abuse" and listened to your excuses. Time to own it: If collusion is shown, do you still support Trump?
And Jorge, this is getting ridiculous. Make the damn bet or STFU about it. It's in your court. I tried via PM, I've now posted my offer THREE TIMES... are we doing this, or not?
And to anybody else, here's my offer. A box of bullets says collusion is shown before the '18 midterms; we'll tighten up the terms to our mutual satisfaction if any of you pussies guys actually believe the crap you say you do, which I'm starting to doubt.....
You're a lying sack, talking and arguing politics after you said you wouldn't and I agree, you do SUCK at it. And when Mueller comes out with his report saying there was no collusion, i'll be right here laughing at your stupid ass.
Actually, I just decided my skin was thick enough these days to engage you guys. I changed my mind. Bigfish is the proven lying sack.
.... and you didn't answer the question! Are you a... a.... last chance, compadre...
Look at you "patriots" dodging and weaving over whether you'd support pure treason at the highest level!
This is just plain funny.
Not sure how you missed it, but we are doing no such thing. Just like the guy who robs a convenience store, if a crime was committed, the perpetrator should be punished. Equality under the law. You already have Trump guilty. Why, I can't figure out. There is no evidence. Still, YOU FEEL like maybe he MIGHT be guilty, so let's just assume guilt. That ain't how it works, partner. No dodging and weaving at all. If there is guilt, punishment should follow. Even if the guilty party is a democrat. THAT sure as heck didn't happen. That's pretty plain, Jeff. Without evidence, there is no guilt.
Look at you "patriots" dodging and weaving over whether you'd support pure treason at the highest level!
This is just plain funny.
Not sure how you missed it, but we are doing no such thing. Just like the guy who robs a convenience store, if a crime was committed, the perpetrator should be punished. Equality under the law. You already have Trump guilty. Why, I can't figure out. There is no evidence. Still, YOU FEEL like maybe he MIGHT be guilty, so let's just assume guilt. That ain't how it works, partner. No dodging and weaving at all. If there is guilt, punishment should follow. Even if the guilty party is a democrat. THAT sure as heck didn't happen. That's pretty plain, Jeff. Without evidence, there is no guilt.
I don't think Jeff Zero is a fan of the Constitution.........At least it appears that way.
Look at you "patriots" dodging and weaving over whether you'd support pure treason at the highest level!
This is just plain funny.
Not sure how you missed it, but we are doing no such thing. Just like the guy who robs a convenience store, if a crime was committed, the perpetrator should be punished. Equality under the law. You already have Trump guilty. Why, I can't figure out. There is no evidence. Still, YOU FEEL like maybe he MIGHT be guilty, so let's just assume guilt. That ain't how it works, partner. No dodging and weaving at all. If there is guilt, punishment should follow. Even if the guilty party is a democrat. THAT sure as heck didn't happen. That's pretty plain, Jeff. Without evidence, there is no guilt.
YOU aren't dodging and weaving. You answered the question. In fact, I agree with your post. Our only difference is you tilt towards it being a deep state conspiracy against an innocent man whereas I suspect he's guilty, or at least someone in his campaign was. It's possible it happened without his knowledge, given how chaotic he seems to like things, people coming and going.
In seriousness, since I'm conversing with an actual functioning adult here (wow!), I suspect that'll turn out to be the case. There was collusion, but Trump was out of that loop.
But these other guys are dodging and weaving. They can't admit that they'd support him even if collusion is shown. So they dodge & weave like a buncha... well, you know. We'll save that for the individual case-by-case brandings.
Other than collusion is not illegal according to Alan Dershowitz, so "collusion" alone ain't cutting it. YOU said Trump was "toast" as in impeached or resigning. THAT is the bet and ten boxes is fine...butthole. And you smart? please.. Bag of hammers doesn't begin to describe your stupidity..
I'm not arguing politics, AKMtn. I'm teaching them to retards. Try to follow.
Bigfish is our first declared pussy, and AK is close because he dodged the question, but we'll give him another chance cause he's actually an ok guy. Who's next? What are ya, chicken to answer the question? Too much cognitive dissonance from it?
30 pages in, bitches. I've taken your "abuse" and listened to your excuses. Time to own it: If collusion is shown, do you still support Trump?
And Jorge, this is getting ridiculous. Make the damn bet or STFU about it. It's in your court. I tried via PM, I've now posted my offer THREE TIMES... are we doing this, or not?
And to anybody else, here's my offer. A box of bullets says collusion is shown before the '18 midterms; we'll tighten up the terms to our mutual satisfaction if any of you pussies guys actually believe the crap you say you do, which I'm starting to doubt.....
There you go again. Pretty insensitive for a lefty.
And none of them will take my bet because they know I'm right. They just can't admit it because they are pooooooos............... I can't say it, the lil angel on the one shoulder is beating out the lil devil on the other..... they are pooooooos......
C'mon you so-called men. Stand up for your brainless partisanship principles. Simple question. If collusion is shown, will you still support Trump?
Been doing something important with my hands and a ladder all day, , but its good to see that Jello the phouc stik is still bobbing and weaving. He seems to like being a pinata at the Little League World Series. If it wasn't real, it would be hard to believe. What a mindless douche....!!
Is he still ignoring his Matt Flynn stupidity as though it didn't happen? He's probably too busy traveling the high road and educating the masses?
Been doing something important with my hands and a ladder all day, , but its good to see that Jello the phouc stik is still bobbing and weaving. He seems to like being a pinata at the Little League World Series. If it wasn't real, it would be hard to believe. What a mindless douche....!!
Is he still ignoring his Matt Flynn stupidity as though it didn't happen? He's probably too busy traveling the high road and educating the masses?
It's a car accident now. Pretty sure it had something to do with Jeff, DUI, and THC. Wonder how THAT toxicology report looked.
Been doing something important with my hands and a ladder all day, , but its good to see that Jello the phouc stik is still bobbing and weaving. He seems to like being a pinata at the Little League World Series. If it wasn't real, it would be hard to believe. What a mindless douche....!!
Is he still ignoring his Matt Flynn stupidity as though it didn't happen? He's probably too busy traveling the high road and educating the masses?
It's a car accident now. Pretty sure it had something to do with Jeff, DUI, and THC. Wonder how THAT toxicology report looked.
Tomorrow it will probably be a train wreck and he'll just ignore anything he said before.
I'm not arguing politics, AKMtn. I'm teaching them to retards. Try to follow.
Bigfish is our first declared pussy, and AK is close because he dodged the question, but we'll give him another chance cause he's actually an ok guy. Who's next? What are ya, chicken to answer the question? Too much cognitive dissonance from it?
30 pages in, bitches. I've taken your "abuse" and listened to your excuses. Time to own it: If collusion is shown, do you still support Trump?
And Jorge, this is getting ridiculous. Make the damn bet or STFU about it. It's in your court. I tried via PM, I've now posted my offer THREE TIMES... are we doing this, or not?
And to anybody else, here's my offer. A box of bullets says collusion is shown before the '18 midterms; we'll tighten up the terms to our mutual satisfaction if any of you pussies guys actually believe the crap you say you do, which I'm starting to doubt.....
You're a lying sack, talking and arguing politics after you said you wouldn't and I agree, you do SUCK at it. And when Mueller comes out with his report saying there was no collusion, i'll be right here laughing at your stupid ass.
Actually, I just decided my skin was thick enough these days to engage you guys. I changed my mind. Bigfish is the proven lying sack.
.... and you didn't answer the question! Are you a... a.... last chance, compadre...
Horseshit, you have no honor and are a lying sack of dog excrement, which in all honesty, is an insult to dog excrement.
Other than collusion is not illegal according to Alan Dershowitz, so "collusion" alone ain't cutting it. YOU said Trump was "toast" as in impeached or resigning. THAT is the bet and ten boxes is fine...butthole. And you smart? please.. Bag of hammers doesn't begin to describe your stupidity..
Illegal in that sense doesn't matter in this case, as you well know. I read that from Dershowitz too.
Look at you, trying to change the deal. Hmmm. Heck, I'll take that offer! That's a cleaner bet anyway. Butthole.
Ok, so it's you putting up 10 boxes of bullets against my one that Trump is still president by the 2018 midterm elections? And disclaimers or caeveats yiyd like to add to that?
Is it safe to say you'll still support Trump even if he colluded? I think it is. But that reminds me, since you are here: would you accept it if it was shown that the captain of your aircraft carrier had colluded with Russian intelligence to climb up the command ladder?
By the way, I didn't say I was smart. I said I was exceptionally smart. Try to keep up.
For being unwilling to answer the simple question of whether he'd still support a POTUS who colluded with Russia, I do hereby declare AkMtnHunter a <female genitalia slang>.
See guys? That's how we do things here in polite-world.
[quote=jorgeI]Ok, so it's you putting up 10 boxes of bullets against my one
Holy fuqk, Weasel is to kind a word.
Hey, don't call Jorge a weasel!
(Those were his terms, not mine, but hey if he wants to go 10:1 who am I to complain... . But I'll go straight-up 1:1 on a bet under the terms I described)
Other than collusion is not illegal according to Alan Dershowitz, so "collusion" alone ain't cutting it. YOU said Trump was "toast" as in impeached or resigning. THAT is the bet and ten boxes is fine...butthole. And you smart? please.. Bag of hammers doesn't begin to describe your stupidity..
Illegal in that sense doesn't matter in this case, as you well know. I read that from Dershowitz too.
Look at you, trying to change the deal. Hmmm. Heck, I'll take that offer! That's a cleaner bet anyway. Butthole.
Ok, so it's you putting up 10 boxes of bullets against my one that Trump is still president by the 2018 midterm elections? And disclaimers or caeveats yiyd like to add to that?
Is it safe to say you'll still support Trump even if he colluded? I think it is. But that reminds me, since you are here: would you accept it if it was shown that the captain of your aircraft carrier had colluded with Russian intelligence to climb up the command ladder?
By the way, I didn't say I was smart. I said I was exceptionally smart. Try to keep up.
And I'm sure you have the stock portfolio and education bona-fides to back up your "smarts"...
Your question about a CO is so absurd it doesn't even rate an answer, but I'll tell you what, loser, YOU define the terms and we'll go with TRUMP COLLUDED AND OR WON'T MAKE IT to the 18 elections. Now here's to wishing next time you: A. get in a "car accident" you won't wear a seatbelt B. Fall of a ladder, you do a half gainer and lead with your head.
The world will be a slightly better place, but I hear you've procreated so there's that turd in the punchbowl
For being unwilling to answer the simple question of whether he'd still support a POTUS who colluded with Russia, I do hereby declare AkMtnHunter a <female genitalia slang>.
See guys? That's how we do things here in polite-world.
Now let's sing Kumbaya.
Well, there you go. Jello has declared something so it must be.
Curdog, I remember from then, and I've noted again recently, that you are a stalwart for civil discourse. Good on ye.
To your point, we are ALL regurgitating here. None of us actually know [bleep] other than what our choice of media is telling us and how we choose to connect the dots in front of us. I believe the majority here are connecting them wrong, mostly because their palette of dots is limited due to them pre-filtering what they are willing to read. So, we all are casting the tea leaves or spilling the cat entrails and making a call as to our interpretation. That's what I'm doing. That's ALL I'm doing. However I'm doing it with persistence, which is being mischaracterized as arrongance, and so I'm getting the standard Campfire toolkit thrown at me. The only thing missing is a certain somebody trying to set me off by insulting my wife. It doesn't matter. I have very thick skin these days or I wouldn't be here.
So, I'm expressing my opinion here, and I'm trying to keep it mostly contained to this thread so that folks can choose to read it, or not. If you choose to read it, that's your call. If it hurts your head, don't read it. I'm not going to stop saying it. Why? Two reasons. First, I think I'm correct. I think Trump and/or campaign associates did collude with Russia to attempt to affect the election. And second, because this is something that people here need to hear! Echo chambers are a harsh mistress when it turns out they are wrong, and many here are stuck in one. I'm trying to HELP. I really am.
If it turns out I'm wrong, I'll own that. Same way I owned it a few days ago when I crossed my own personal line about name-calling (it sure wasn't a line that exists here on the Fire!) and publically apologized to Jorge. Maybe I AM wrong and it's you guys reading the tea leaves correctly and ME in an echo chamber! That's a possibility I'm trying to be open to. Can "you" collectively say the same?
I'm off to make some dough. Got a vexing issue with customer-supplied crappy steel that has hard inclusions that are giving my tooling fits. Gotta try some custom grinds on cutters... hopefully.
Originally Posted by Jeff_O
"Nunes told reporters he had seen new information showing that the communications of Trump transition officials were scooped up through monitoring of other targets and improperly spread through intelligence agencies during the final days of the Obama administration"
"Nunes said the intercepted communications appeared to be legally obtained and were not related to the FBI’s Russia investigation. He said his concern was that the identities of the Trump officials were improperly revealed and the contents of their communications were “widely disseminated” in intelligence reports. Schiff disputed Nunes’ suggestions that there was improper “unmasking.” He said that after speaking with Nunes, it appeared that the names of Americans were still guarded in the intercepts though their identities could be gleaned from the materials"
Ok... enough silly name calling (Wanker started it! grin) ... here's the situation as I see it.
Obama was told something really fishy was happening. As a patriotic American he did his best in the limited time he had left to safeguard our democracy from the threat. What you would rather he'd done?! It would've been literally treasonous for him to ignore this.
Obfuscate and deflect (and wank) all you want, WhelenAway, but the simple fact appears to be that Trump is a traitor and a whole bunch of good Americans are trying to protect America's interests.
No one hates the constitution as much as a two-time Obama voter...
Originally Posted by Jeff_O
I like Doc. I'll try to find his post.
We here (seem to) enjoy jousting and calling names but I have to believe that beneath all this BS we share a common love of the Constitution and of America. I am deeply appalled at the size and scope and reach of our MIC in general and the global extension of our military power specifically. This was never supposed to be "America"; we've become something the founders would hate.
I'm also deeply appalled at the level of surveillance we are under this very minute, all of us. So I'm hardly a patsy for continuation of our current national posture in these regards; I like some of Trump's ideas about NATO and international trade and so on, and I like his potential as an agent of real change.
But before we can proceed to that we simply have to know the truth about Trump/Russia or, conversely, our deep state intel guys. One or the other is traitorous. The tea leaves tell me it's Trump. You guys have got yourselves spun into a place where you'd rather believe the whole government- except the guys you like, natch- are traitorous. We need to figure this out conclusively. There's no other path forward.
Honestly? Many of you know in your hearts that Trump has all the signs of being guilty of this. Hence your vitriol and knee-jerk bitchiness about the whole thing. It's not gonna work. You can't shout this one down.
Whatever the truth is, let's figure it out and get things moving forward. I'll say it one more time. If the traitors here are Obama and the deep state... hang 'em high. I've got the perfect oak tree for it and I'll tie the noose.
Originally Posted by Jeff_O
I'm going to apologize to Jorge for calling him that. I should've used a term like "delicate hothouse flower" or the like. My bad. I got up at 2:30 this morning to drive my kid to the airport. I'm out of sorts and grouchy. That sort of name-calling only damages the conversation, which I have said bums me out... so I'll own it.
YOU DEFINE THE BET A S S H O L E. Collusion and he won't last. As alluded to before, you should rent yourself an idiot to do the simple thinking for you.
Bigfish, gloves are off on this thread. There will be name-calling. Lots and lots and lots of it. You whiny little lying bitch.
.... or, we could actually converse like adults! Not you, obviously, talking to the actual adults here. I will if y'all will. You guys want to reel this one back towards something resembling a conversation, or shall we all just act like poo-flinging monkeys? It's really up to you guys; I can control myself, but you guys can't seem to? I don't really care either way; I'm TORCHING you guys either politely or crudely, and that won't change.
For being unwilling to answer the simple question of whether he'd still support a POTUS who colluded with Russia, I do hereby declare AkMtnHunter a <female genitalia slang>.
See guys? That's how we do things here in polite-world.
Now let's sing Kumbaya.
Call me whatever you want, doesn't change the fact that your are a proven liar and all the proof is in this thread. You want to make a bet, I got one for you that nobody else will make. If Trump isn't impeached by the end of his first term (yes, he will do 2) you have to leave this site permanently. If he is I will leave this site permanently. I make this bet because it's the only way to get rid of your sorry lying ass once and for all.
Bigfish, gloves are off on this thread. There will be name-calling. Lots and lots and lots of it. You whiny little lying bitch.
.... or, we could actually converse like adults! Not you, obviously, talking to the actual adults here. I will if y'all will. You guys want to reel this one back towards something resembling a conversation, or shall we all just act like poo-flinging monkeys? It's really up to you guys; I can control myself, but you guys can't seem to? I don't really care either way; I'm TORCHING you guys either politely or crudely, and that won't change.
Completely unhinged. I hope you continue to have multiple daily PTSD attacks caused by your TARD and TDS.
You want to make a bet, I got one for you that nobody else will make. If Trump isn't impeached by the end of his first term (yes, he will do 2) you have to leave this site permanently. If he is I will leave this site permanently. I make this bet because it's the only way to get rid of your sorry lying ass once and for all.
Communists on this site have a proven track record of reneging on bets with those terms. I think it's a 100% renege rate.
ETA: They always come back under other names and usually their original ones too.
YOU DEFINE THE BET A S S H O L E. Collusion and he won't last. As alluded to before, you should rent yourself an idiot to do the simple thinking for you.
Dude... can you step away from the bourbon long enough to consumate this bet? You want ME to set the terms on a bet you are giving 10:1 odds on? Are you nuts?
Ok... since I'm apparently the only sober one here, we agreed on betting whether Trump was still in office by the '18 midterms, yes? Are you now saying that IN ADDITION to that, that I ALSO win the bet if collusion is demonstrated, by him and/or campaign members, even if it's not illegal and even if Trump somehow survives it politically (he won't)?
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To the other issue, look at you avoiding my question! Bok bok bok. You know it cuts right to the heart of this, and blows your argument out of the water (see what I did there?), so you won't answer it.
Here's the answer. An aircraft carrier commander colluding with Russia to climb the command ladder is no different that a POTUS doing so. Both are treason. Both are actionable to the extreme. Do you disagree?
Look at you "patriots" dodging and weaving over whether you'd support pure treason at the highest level!
This is just plain funny.
Not sure how you missed it, but we are doing no such thing. Just like the guy who robs a convenience store, if a crime was committed, the perpetrator should be punished. Equality under the law. You already have Trump guilty. Why, I can't figure out. There is no evidence. Still, YOU FEEL like maybe he MIGHT be guilty, so let's just assume guilt. That ain't how it works, partner. No dodging and weaving at all. If there is guilt, punishment should follow. Even if the guilty party is a democrat. THAT sure as heck didn't happen. That's pretty plain, Jeff. Without evidence, there is no guilt.
YOU aren't dodging and weaving. You answered the question. In fact, I agree with your post. Our only difference is you tilt towards it being a deep state conspiracy against an innocent man whereas I suspect he's guilty, or at least someone in his campaign was. It's possible it happened without his knowledge, given how chaotic he seems to like things, people coming and going.
In seriousness, since I'm conversing with an actual functioning adult here (wow!), I suspect that'll turn out to be the case. There was collusion, but Trump was out of that loop.
But these other guys are dodging and weaving. They can't admit that they'd support him even if collusion is shown. So they dodge & weave like a buncha... well, you know. We'll save that for the individual case-by-case brandings.
Collusion? Where is THAT evidence? In any case, it ain't illegal. Pretty tough to get charged for not breaking any laws. As far as the "deep state" goes, it's nothing more than leftists attempting a coup.
Hey! In the name of civility, only *I* get to declare people a pussy.
And if you cannot find the intestinal fortitude to stand up to your inner rabid partisan and declare that yes, Jeff, I DO support action against Trump if he colluded with Russia! then, well, I'll be doing some declaring here shortly.
But we aren't there yet. I'm still holding out hope for some of you.
So c'mon you recalcitrant class of retards. Eyes forward, pencils to paper, bigfish stop fingering yourself, and answer the question. Yes, this is a test.
Hey! In the name of civility, only *I* get to declare people a pussy.
And if you cannot find the intestinal fortitude to stand up to your inner rabid partisan and declare that yes, Jeff, I DO support action against Trump if he colluded with Russia! then, well, I'll be doing some declaring here shortly.
But we aren't there yet. I'm still holding out hope for some of you.
So c'mon you recalcitrant class of retards. Eyes forward, pencils to paper, bigfish stop fingering yourself, and answer the question. Yes, this is a test.
Look at you "patriots" dodging and weaving over whether you'd support pure treason at the highest level!
This is just plain funny.
Not sure how you missed it, but we are doing no such thing. Just like the guy who robs a convenience store, if a crime was committed, the perpetrator should be punished. Equality under the law. You already have Trump guilty. Why, I can't figure out. There is no evidence. Still, YOU FEEL like maybe he MIGHT be guilty, so let's just assume guilt. That ain't how it works, partner. No dodging and weaving at all. If there is guilt, punishment should follow. Even if the guilty party is a democrat. THAT sure as heck didn't happen. That's pretty plain, Jeff. Without evidence, there is no guilt.
YOU aren't dodging and weaving. You answered the question. In fact, I agree with your post. Our only difference is you tilt towards it being a deep state conspiracy against an innocent man whereas I suspect he's guilty, or at least someone in his campaign was. It's possible it happened without his knowledge, given how chaotic he seems to like things, people coming and going.
In seriousness, since I'm conversing with an actual functioning adult here (wow!), I suspect that'll turn out to be the case. There was collusion, but Trump was out of that loop.
But these other guys are dodging and weaving. They can't admit that they'd support him even if collusion is shown. So they dodge & weave like a buncha... well, you know. We'll save that for the individual case-by-case brandings.
Collusion? Where is THAT evidence? In any case, it ain't illegal. Pretty tough to get charged for not breaking any laws. As far as the "deep state" goes, it's nothing more than leftists attempting a coup.
And, you might be right! I don't think you are, but I admit to the possibility. Again since you are the only other adult in the room I'll say- and I mean this- that if you are right, it's a true 2A moment. Our time will have come. And I'm there.
But what *I'm* predicting is that the evidence of collusion will be forthcoming. BTW- impeachment doesn't require a crime in that sense. It's "high crimes and misdemeanors"... it's in essence whatever Congress says it is. Beyond that, they're gonna get Trump for obstruction- which is a crime- and some campaign members (who colluded) for financial crimes, a la how they took down that organized crime family head on tax evasion decades ago.
It's only a prediction, and offered as such, but it sure fits the available info better than any other hypothesis.
Even if it occurred (which is not supported by evidence) is collusion illegal? Dershowitz says it is not. Perhaps he's a retard too. In light of that knowledge, what crime do you charge Trump with? Might wanna message Dershowitz, and give him your legal opinion.
But I'll go box of bullets with ya that he doesn't survive the term. Yes?
Survive the term? Are you serious?
He won't see January 1, 2018. Resign or removal, makes no difference to me.
He's panicking. He's already becoming a stuttering prick.
Jeff, I think your friend is saying you should take the bet since it's a sure thing for you.
Take the bet. He's collapsing before our eyes. He's too fragile to withstand the inquiry. Wait until his lawyers tell him he has to turn over his financial information. He's quit that day. He's a [bleep].
But I'll go box of bullets with ya that he doesn't survive the term. Yes?
Survive the term? Are you serious?
He won't see January 1, 2018. Resign or removal, makes no difference to me.
He's panicking. He's already becoming a stuttering prick.
Jeff, I think your friend is saying you should take the bet since it's a sure thing for you.
Take the bet. He's collapsing before our eyes. He's too fragile to withstand the inquiry. Wait until his lawyers tell him he has to turn over his financial information. He's quit that day. He's a [bleep].
So is it safe to say that you and you butt buddy favor the political overthrowing of an elected official?
But I'll go box of bullets with ya that he doesn't survive the term. Yes?
Survive the term? Are you serious?
He won't see January 1, 2018. Resign or removal, makes no difference to me.
He's panicking. He's already becoming a stuttering prick.
Jeff, I think your friend is saying you should take the bet since it's a sure thing for you.
Take the bet. He's collapsing before our eyes. He's too fragile to withstand the inquiry. Wait until his lawyers tell him he has to turn over his financial information. He's quit that day. He's a [bleep].
So is it safe to say that you and you butt buddy favor the political overthrowing of an elected official?
I don't. I absolutely don't.
I favor finding the truth, whatever it turns out to be. Don't you?
Seems you guys can't even begin to address the issues. I think ol' Jeff has ya'll arm wrassled to the floor, and he isn't even trying.
I think Trump will last until 2018 - if he wants to, and THAT he may not. But he won't get tossed before then. Might not be much longer than that before he does however.
And, hell, ya'll should be glad of that. Pence would be 10x the hypercon tiger that Trump pretends to be. And he knows how to get things done in spades - something Trump has no clue about. Pence, not Trump is the liberals' true nightmare. Trump is more like entertainment (and he will take down the House and Senate Majorities if he continues much longer).
I know, I know. Attack me, 'cuz you can't cope with the issues. Don't you get tired of being chickens?
Matt Flynn is in a world of shït, and his request for immunity makes more sense with every passing moment. He's one of the linchpins to this whole affair.
Of course I could be wrong. Who wants to bet me a box of bullets now?
If you guys had faith in your take on this stuff you'd be all over that bet.
[quote=jorgeI]Ok, so it's you putting up 10 boxes of bullets against my one
Holy fuqk, Weasel is to kind a word.
Hey, don't call Jorge a weasel!
(Those were his terms, not mine, but hey if he wants to go 10:1 who am I to complain... . But I'll go straight-up 1:1 on a bet under the terms I described)
Any takers?
Originally Posted by Jeff_O
Originally Posted by 12344mag
Originally Posted by Jeff_O
[quote=jorgeI]Ok, so it's you putting up 10 boxes of bullets against my one
Holy fuqk, Weasel is to kind a word.
Hey, don't call Jorge a weasel!
(Those were his terms, not mine, but hey if he wants to go 10:1 who am I to complain... . But I'll go straight-up 1:1 on a bet under the terms I described)
Any takers?
A box of bullets is a small price for you to pay to ensure that someone on this forum will interact other you a year from now.
Seems you guys can't even begin to address the issues. I think ol' Jeff has ya'll arm wrassled to the floor, and he isn't even trying.
I think Trump will last until 2018 - if he wants to, and THAT he may not. But he won't get tossed before then. Might not be much longer than that before he does however.
And, hell, ya'll should be glad of that. Pence would be 10x the hypercon tiger that Trump pretends to be. And he knows how to get things done in spades - something Trump has no clue about. Pence, not Trump is the liberals' true nightmare. Trump is more like entertainment (and he will take down the House and Senate Majorities if he continues much longer).
I know, I know. Attack me, 'cuz you can't cope with the issues. Don't you get tired of being chickens?
We are waiting on your superior liberal intellect to enlighten us as to why S Arabia, China and Japan have not accepted the genious of your lib plans of open borders and of importing muzzie refugees. Cat got your tongue, or is it up Jell0s ass?
Seems you guys can't even begin to address the issues. I think ol' Jeff has ya'll arm wrassled to the floor, and he isn't even trying.
I think Trump will last until 2018 - if he wants to, and THAT he may not. But he won't get tossed before then. Might not be much longer than that before he does however.
And, hell, ya'll should be glad of that. Pence would be 10x the hypercon tiger that Trump pretends to be. And he knows how to get things done in spades - something Trump has no clue about. Pence, not Trump is the liberals' true nightmare. Trump is more like entertainment (and he will take down the House and Senate Majorities if he continues much longer).
I know, I know. Attack me, 'cuz you can't cope with the issues. Don't you get tired of being chickens?
The issue is that you libs are commies. So, case closed. Commies are traitors. Satisfied?
It would be nice to know that Jeffy was no longer the socialist he proved himself to be before and that maybe his children are smarter than he was...
I will do this ONE TIME so listen up <g>. I do not argue politics anymore. I do not FOLLOW politics anymore. I sucked at it anyway <g>. I'm done with that [bleep]. -
You've backslid ....you still suck at it... I still hope your children are smarter than you.
Take the bet. He's collapsing before our eyes. He's too fragile to withstand the inquiry. Wait until his lawyers tell him he has to turn over his financial information. He's quit that day. He's a [bleep].
I agree that Flynn is the vector. We now KNOW he broke laws. He's already asked for immunity. They're gonna squeeze and he's gonna squawk.
As all-seeing and all-knowing as I am, it's still not clear to His Jeffness if Mr. Trump even knew about what "campaign members" were up to. If I were going to poke holes in my own general argument, which I guess I will since you lame-asses apparently can't, it'd be that: it was a chaotic campaign, and Trump can't reasonably be held responsible for every swinging dick who jumped on the bandwagon. That's a reasonable proposition and a more nuanced POTUS might've gone that route. Ours, being not-nuanced, has opted for.... what, "confused knee-jerk counterattack" maybe is a fair way to put it?
I think the coverup is gonna be worse than the crime. But it's too late. The die are cast....
I agree that Flynn is the vector. We now KNOW he broke laws. He's already asked for immunity. They're gonna squeeze and he's gonna squawk.
As all-seeing and all-knowing as I am, it's still not clear to His Jeffness if Mr. Trump even knew about what "campaign members" were up to. If I were going to poke holes in my own general argument, which I guess I will since you lame-asses apparently can't, it'd be that: it was a chaotic campaign, and Trump can't reasonably be held responsible for every swinging dick who jumped on the bandwagon. That's a reasonable proposition and a more nuanced POTUS might've gone that route. Ours, being not-nuanced, has opted for.... what, "confused knee-jerk counterattack" maybe is a fair way to put it?
I think the coverup is gonna be worse than the crime. But it's too late. The die are cast....
I had a friend in high school who sounded just like you, Jeff. He thought he was the smartest person in the room. Whatever theory of human nature or science or politics he had was the unvarnished truth. Unfortunately, his "sermons" to the great unwashed ignorant of us who were within earshot of the bloviating dingus turned to Blah blah blah, blah blah blah, "you guys will see! I'm smarter than all of you"! He would get handed his ass consistently, especially science. It was humorous to see him attempt to disprove the chemistry text books.
You, in your glib, "I'm Superman!" bullshit are as delusional as he was.
Let's say for the sake of setting you up to to get your ass handed to you, how would collusion affect the election? C'mon Jeff, you're the smartest fugger in the room, lay it out, step by step. Give us the mechanism that collusion set up, that caused Trump to win the election.
I agree that Flynn is the vector. We now KNOW he broke laws. He's already asked for immunity. They're gonna squeeze and he's gonna squawk.
As all-seeing and all-knowing as I am, it's still not clear to His Jeffness if Mr. Trump even knew about what "campaign members" were up to. If I were going to poke holes in my own general argument, which I guess I will since you lame-asses apparently can't, it'd be that: it was a chaotic campaign, and Trump can't reasonably be held responsible for every swinging dick who jumped on the bandwagon. That's a reasonable proposition and a more nuanced POTUS might've gone that route. Ours, being not-nuanced, has opted for.... what, "confused knee-jerk counterattack" maybe is a fair way to put it?
I think the coverup is gonna be worse than the crime. But it's too late. The die are cast....
I agree that Flynn is the vector. We now KNOW he broke laws. He's already asked for immunity. They're gonna squeeze and he's gonna squawk.
As all-seeing and all-knowing as I am, it's still not clear to His Jeffness if Mr. Trump even knew about what "campaign members" were up to. If I were going to poke holes in my own general argument, which I guess I will since you lame-asses apparently can't, it'd be that: it was a chaotic campaign, and Trump can't reasonably be held responsible for every swinging dick who jumped on the bandwagon. That's a reasonable proposition and a more nuanced POTUS might've gone that route. Ours, being not-nuanced, has opted for.... what, "confused knee-jerk counterattack" maybe is a fair way to put it?
I think the coverup is gonna be worse than the crime. But it's too late. The die are cast....
I agree that Flynn is the vector. We now KNOW he broke laws. He's already asked for immunity. They're gonna squeeze and he's gonna squawk.
As all-seeing and all-knowing as I am, it's still not clear to His Jeffness if Mr. Trump even knew about what "campaign members" were up to. If I were going to poke holes in my own general argument, which I guess I will since you lame-asses apparently can't, it'd be that: it was a chaotic campaign, and Trump can't reasonably be held responsible for every swinging dick who jumped on the bandwagon. That's a reasonable proposition and a more nuanced POTUS might've gone that route. Ours, being not-nuanced, has opted for.... what, "confused knee-jerk counterattack" maybe is a fair way to put it?
I think the coverup is gonna be worse than the crime. But it's too late. The die are cast....
Since Jello woke up after bumping his head, he envisions himself in a long white robe with nail marks in his hands and feet.
Someone who once seemed to just be silly and confused most of the time is getting more bizarre all of the time. The truly deranged and pathetic part of it is that he likes playing the role in front of an audience.
Wasted enough time of this thread. It's there. But I will leave you with pictures which will be easier for a semi-literate hayseed like you go capture:
ME:
The three "harpies", JeffObama, Meat Gazer and LeroyPeas...
This thread started slow and now have 700 replies. New record for one of mine. " I want to thank the Academy, and all the trolls that made this possible."
jorgeI, I think you're right as far as spending any more time in conversation with Jello is concerned. When cut to the bare minimum, Jello's brain is like a 10 speed bike motoring down the road. It has a bunch of gears that never get used.
Leaving on a more positive note, Jello does include a lot of useless liberal opinions in the facts he believes in.
What got me onto this thread to begin with was that the first page or two was guys saying how smart it was to fire Comey and I was like, the [bleep] it is! It's a huge tactical mistake! Which turned out to be correct (naturally), and led straight to where he is today, which is to say, kinda fooked. At any rate, I can see why they are having trouble finding the right person for the job. For one thing, as that Navy SEAL said who turned down Flynn's NSA position, "it's a shït sandwich". Whoever takes this job will be in a terrible position. Career-risking. But of course, it goes much deeper than that. I honestly think Mr. Trump was naive enough to think he could fire Comey and then replace him with a sycophant and be done with the Russia mess. It might work that way in business, buuuuuut.... so the position he's in NOW is that he has to fill it with.... who exactly? A non-political person seems to be a prerequisite for getting congressional approval. It can't be someone who's seen as "soft" on Russia. It can't be anyone with any hint of Trump-taint on him/her from prior to all this. I can see who it CAN'T be but it's not clear who it CAN be!
He'd have been better off with Comey, if only obviously.
He also appears to have pissed of Rosenstien (or whatever the assistant AG is named)-- the guy who wrote the hatchet job memo on Comey... funny how that works. Throw a guy under the bus after he does you a solid and he gets mad, who knew?! Anyway whatever-his-name-is will now be overcompensating AGAINST Trump to prevent further Trump stank from transferring to him.
He's in a pickle.
How are you guys today? Are we conversating like grown-ups or flinging poo like retarded children? I'm fine either way, but I'd prefer the former.
Trump also BADLY misread the feelings in Congress and in non-fruitcake America in general towards Comey. Comey was perhaps the one person with some credibility on both sides of the aisle due to how things had played out. Both sides are pissed, yes, but both sides had been "wronged" (sic) by him so at least there was a sense that he wasn't going to bend over for either.
I know many here don't like Ryan, but he's a powerful person and, by the way, next in line if Pence goes down with Trump. Anyway... this is telling. Because no, Mr. Trump, your FBI Director was NOT a nut job.
When he was a candidate, SOME of what he advocated was very intriguing to me; on top of that, I am a wholehearted supporter of populism as a legitimate political force, even when it results in a candidate I might differ with. Power to the PEOPLE, yo! So there were aspects of Trump that I was very positive about (which got me killed by liberal friends/family... holy crap... liberals are just as stuck in a bubble as conservatives, and as a customer of mine puts it: the only thing liberals and conservatives can agree on is that they hate moderates!)
But I digress. My point was that while I liked "some" Trumpisms, I disliked others, but I most definitely detested his personality and had great trepidation about how it would translate to POTUS. As we can see by things like that comment TO THE RUSSIANS OF ALL PEOPLE those fears are correct: he's a disaster on that level. No impulse control, no thinking ahead, just an overwhelming childlike desire to brag and impress... its appalling. Those who said he was playing 3D chess? Wow. Just wow.
But I'll put this out there even though again, it works against my hypothesis that he's going down for collusion and resultant obstruction... and again, I'll say this because it appears my numbskull "conservative" jousting partners here are too obtuse... him saying that actually is one of the few signs that I have seen that he might, personally, be innocent of the collusion. I mean if it turns out he isn't, saying that to THE RUSSIANS OF ALL PEOPLE was collassly stupid... but if he's innocent it's not SO stupid, just your basic stupid. That doesn't mean elements of his campaign didn't; but it's certainly possible that HE didn't.
When he was a candidate, SOME of what he advocated was very intriguing to me; on top of that, I am a wholehearted supporter of populism as a legitimate political force, even when it results in a candidate I might differ with. Power to the PEOPLE, yo! So there were aspects of Trump that I was very positive about (which got me killed by liberal friends/family... holy crap... liberals are just as stuck in a bubble as conservatives, and as a customer of mine puts it: the only thing liberals and conservatives can agree on is that they hate moderates!)
But I digress. My point was that while I liked "some" Trumpisms, I disliked others, but I most definitely detested his personality and had great trepidation about how it would translate to POTUS. As we can see by things like that comment TO THE RUSSIANS OF ALL PEOPLE those fears are correct: he's a disaster on that level. No impulse control, no thinking ahead, just an overwhelming childlike desire to brag and impress... its appalling. Those who said he was playing 3D chess? Wow. Just wow.
But I'll put this out there even though again, it works against my hypothesis that he's going down for collusion and resultant obstruction... and again, I'll say this because it appears my numbskull "conservative" jousting partners here are too obtuse... him saying that actually is one of the few signs that I have seen that he might, personally, be innocent of the collusion. I mean if it turns out he isn't, saying that to THE RUSSIANS OF ALL PEOPLE was collassly stupid... but if he's innocent it's not SO stupid, just your basic stupid. That doesn't mean elements of his campaign didn't; but it's certainly possible that HE didn't.
But boy oh boy was that stupid.
If collusion is not illegal, then you are just barking up the wrong tree, even if there WAS collusion. It does not appear that there was, according to the lack of evidence. Assuming all THAT to be true, you now have him obstructing an investigation into something that is not illegal. I might add that interjection your own thoughts and speculating about what Trump may be thinking, is absolutely absurd. You simply DO NOT, and CANNOT know, what transpired. You may have an hypothesis, but you have nothing but your speculation to back it up. That ain't worth a hill of beans. If you seriously think Trump is stupid, I fear you are severely underestimating him. I'm gonna go read about guns and hunting now. If something actually real and substantial comes up, everybody should learn about it. Accusations don't equal guilt. This holds DOUBLE for accusations by anybody named Clinton. Their whole modus operandi, is to accuse others of what THEY are doing.
When he was a candidate, SOME of what he advocated was very intriguing to me; on top of that, I am a wholehearted supporter of populism as a legitimate political force, even when it results in a candidate I might differ with. Power to the PEOPLE, yo! So there were aspects of Trump that I was very positive about (which got me killed by liberal friends/family... holy crap... liberals are just as stuck in a bubble as conservatives, and as a customer of mine puts it: the only thing liberals and conservatives can agree on is that they hate moderates!)
But I digress. My point was that while I liked "some" Trumpisms, I disliked others, but I most definitely detested his personality and had great trepidation about how it would translate to POTUS. As we can see by things like that comment TO THE RUSSIANS OF ALL PEOPLE those fears are correct: he's a disaster on that level. No impulse control, no thinking ahead, just an overwhelming childlike desire to brag and impress... its appalling. Those who said he was playing 3D chess? Wow. Just wow.
But I'll put this out there even though again, it works against my hypothesis that he's going down for collusion and resultant obstruction... and again, I'll say this because it appears my numbskull "conservative" jousting partners here are too obtuse... him saying that actually is one of the few signs that I have seen that he might, personally, be innocent of the collusion. I mean if it turns out he isn't, saying that to THE RUSSIANS OF ALL PEOPLE was collassly stupid... but if he's innocent it's not SO stupid, just your basic stupid. That doesn't mean elements of his campaign didn't; but it's certainly possible that HE didn't.
But boy oh boy was that stupid.
If collusion is not illegal, then you are just barking up the wrong tree, even if there WAS collusion. It does not appear that there was, according to the lack of evidence. Assuming all THAT to be true, you now have him obstructing an investigation into something that is not illegal. I might add that interjection your own thoughts and speculating about what Trump may be thinking, is absolutely absurd. You simply DO NOT, and CANNOT know, what transpired. You may have an hypothesis, but you have nothing but your speculation to back it up. That ain't worth a hill of beans. If you seriously think Trump is stupid, I fear you are severely underestimating him. I'm gonna go read about guns and hunting now. If something actually real and substantial comes up, everybody should learn about it. Accusations don't equal guilt. This holds DOUBLE for accusations by anybody named Clinton. Their whole modus operandi, is to accuse others of what THEY are doing.
The thing is, benchman, even if collusion isn't illegal- and I'm not conceding that to be the case- it's still impeachable, and if proven out, trust me, he'll get impeached. The outrage would be unstoppable. There'd be some people who'd support him regardless, but I bet it'd be under 20%... and more to the point, Congressional republicans know that they'd get cremated in '18 if they left a POTUS in office who'd done so.
That's if collusion is shown.
At this point, it's grown beyond that, though. It appears that Flynn is guilty of SOMETHJNG; his life is going to be veddy veddy eeenteresting in the next few months... and it appears that Trump has attempted to obstruct the investigations (plural) into him, and perhaps others. That IS illegal as well as, of course, impeachable. As I say, the sheer ham-fistedness of how Trump has tried to stop the investigations is at least a ray of hope that he himself is innocent of the collusion. We'll see.
So I agree that we need solid information. That'll be coming. The intel community didn't stake their reputation on this over nothing. In the meantime we get leaks and the resulting hypothesis to argue about. Good times!
Meant to add this link. Bill Clinton's lawyer giving advice on scandal management. I can't speak to the specifics he's advising, but clearly Mr. Trump needs to change how he's doing things. I'm guessing that the fancy-pants impeachment lawyer he just hired will be attempting to tone him down and, really, just getting him to simply STFU would do wonders. Anybody disagree with THAT?
Personally? Not holding out much hope for that. This is a 70 year old man, hyper-egotistical, under massive stress, very set in his ways, and seemingly incapable of self-regulating as far as either STFU or else applying some foresight to what he says... and he sure seems to have risen to his level of incompetence as they say. In order to have any chance of surviving this, he needs to re-invent himself. That seems highly unlikely.
WTF!!!!!!!!!!!! This sombeech is still going? I certainly hope all the LIBTARDS are as obsessed with this little project as some here are. That will give President Trump plenty of time to figure what he is going to pack up their arse next!!!!!! LMAO!!!!!!!
Trump also BADLY misread the feelings in Congress and in non-fruitcake America in general towards Comey. Comey was perhaps the one person with some credibility on both sides of the aisle due to how things had played out. Both sides are pissed, yes, but both sides had been "wronged" (sic) by him so at least there was a sense that he wasn't going to bend over for either.
I know many here don't like Ryan, but he's a powerful person and, by the way, next in line if Pence goes down with Trump. Anyway... this is telling. Because no, Mr. Trump, your FBI Director was NOT a nut job.
Side note: what in the name of sweet baby Jesus possessed Trump to say that TO THE RUSSIANS?!
Alinsky Rule 7 - "A tactic that drags on too long becomes a drag." Don't become old news."
Rule 12 - "The price of a successful attack is a constructive alternative." Never let the enemy score points because you're caught without a solution to the problem.
I'm afraid you are violating your own rules here, chum.
NYT reporting that the original intelligence intercepts had Russian intelligence bragging about being able to get to Flynn and Manafort... the pieces of the puzzle keep fitting together. How's the deep-state puzzle coming together?
Found this over on another site. The site owner got the following in an E-mail.
There are very few crime/mystery novels that approach this true story for compelling drama, intrigue and brinkmanship (with the nation in the balance).
Don’t believe the fake-media story that Trump made a mistake or huge gaffe by firing Comey.
Don’t believe the media narrative from the left that it was an attempt to silence Comey from some investigation into Trump.
Don’t believe the RINO narrative that Comey is a good guy just trying to do his job in terrible circumstances and the timing was bad.
Don’t believe the lie that Comey was admired and respected by career FBI investigators and agents.
Don’t believe the lie that Trump’s “tweets” are not professional and have no strategic purpose. His tweets are weaponized and deadly.
James Comey is a poisonous snake of the highest order… a deep-water Swamp Denizen who has been highly paid to deliberately provide cover for high-level corruption by the Clintons and Obama. He is has been central to trying to destroy the Trump campaign and then the Trump administration from the start. He is as dirty as they come in DC. He had highest-level cover (the FBI no less) and was deep into an effort to eliminate Trump. Trump had to move hard, fast, and at exactly the right time to cut the head off the snake without getting bitten by the snake or being finished by the other swamp denizens.
Begin by noticing how the President fired Comey when Comey was 3,000 miles away from his office, that Comey had no inkling he was being cut, that all his files, computers, and everything in his office were seized by his boss Sessions and the justice department. This was not a violation of protocol, it was tactical. Notice how Prez Trump compartmentalized the strike and did not inform any of his White House “staff” to prevent leaks. Notice how he emasculated Comey and the swamp denizens by letting them know in a tweet that the Attorney General got information (surveillance “tapes” from the seizure of Comey’s office) to let Comey and his handlers know that Trump’s DOJ has the goods on them. This was a brilliant, strategic and totally imperative move at exactly the right time against horrible, evil and corrupt powers infesting our government.
The swamp is on notice that the President is on to them, they are sweating bullets because their criminal games of corruption are being pursued and they know it. They are screaming and ranting because they are desperate denizens of the swamp who are beginning to realize they are roadkill.
THIS IS WHAT YOU NEED TO KNOW ABOUT THE COMEY SCAM. Taken from credible public sources (readily available if you want to look or want me to sent them to you), with a few reasonable “fill in the blank” conclusions of my own.
The Highlights:
Comey was a minor assistant US attorney in the late 90’s. He only gained power and money by being the DOJ official who “investigated” and cleared Bill Clinton of any wrong-doing in Clinton’s totally corrupt pardon (for huge payoffs) of criminal financier Marc Rich as Clinton was leaving the Presidency. This is how Comey began his career as a creature of the “swamp” years ago, as a servant of the Clintons.
Comey provided “cover” for the Clintons in their gaining incredible power and wealth after leaving office through pardoning a billionaire money-launderer, arms dealer and criminal. Comey was a key piece in how the Clintons upped their corruption game and gained incredible wealth through their foundation after leaving the White House. A huge part of the scheme was giving Marc Rich a free pass when he should have spent life in prison, and that is what Comey covered-up for the Clintons. This set up Comey to be part of the corruption machine, making him powerful and wealthy.
Immediately after doing the Clinton’s dirty work as a DOJ official, Comey resigned from the DOJ and took a position as the head attorney (Counsel) of the Lockheed Martin company, a huge military contractor. While he was in that position Lockheed became a major contributor (millions) to the Clinton Foundation and its fake charity spin-offs. In return for these payment to Clinton Inc., Lockheed received huge contracts with Hillary’s state department. Comey was the chief legal officer of Lockheed throughout this period of contributions to Clinton Inc. in return for State Dept. contracts.
In late 2012, after overseeing Lockheed’s successful relationship with the Hillary State Department and the resulting profits, Comey stepped down from Lockheed and received a $6 million dollar payout for his services.
Have ducked out for the last 10 or so pages. Did we get to the part about this "doesn't look good for Trump" yet? I was expecting an impeachment pretty much like 3 weeks ago. Now all I hear about is that we have a REAL PRESIDENT finally, awesome speeches, acting diplomatic (not same as being a puzzy) and not bowing (literally) to 'leaders' around the world.
What gives, Jeff. WHEN IS HE GETTING HAULED OFF IN CUFFS?
The structure of his trip- the pre-planned nature of it, with deals already in place, the paegentry- are all good things for him, wouldn't you say? I think more structure and discipline would do him wonders back in DC, as well. If he survives.
Calm before the storm, Benny. Calm before the storm.
Found this over on another site. The site owner got the following in an E-mail.
There are very few crime/mystery novels that approach this true story for compelling drama, intrigue and brinkmanship (with the nation in the balance).
Don’t believe the fake-media story that Trump made a mistake or huge gaffe by firing Comey.
Don’t believe the media narrative from the left that it was an attempt to silence Comey from some investigation into Trump.
Don’t believe the RINO narrative that Comey is a good guy just trying to do his job in terrible circumstances and the timing was bad.
Don’t believe the lie that Comey was admired and respected by career FBI investigators and agents.
Don’t believe the lie that Trump’s “tweets” are not professional and have no strategic purpose. His tweets are weaponized and deadly.
James Comey is a poisonous snake of the highest order… a deep-water Swamp Denizen who has been highly paid to deliberately provide cover for high-level corruption by the Clintons and Obama. He is has been central to trying to destroy the Trump campaign and then the Trump administration from the start. He is as dirty as they come in DC. He had highest-level cover (the FBI no less) and was deep into an effort to eliminate Trump. Trump had to move hard, fast, and at exactly the right time to cut the head off the snake without getting bitten by the snake or being finished by the other swamp denizens.
Begin by noticing how the President fired Comey when Comey was 3,000 miles away from his office, that Comey had no inkling he was being cut, that all his files, computers, and everything in his office were seized by his boss Sessions and the justice department. This was not a violation of protocol, it was tactical. Notice how Prez Trump compartmentalized the strike and did not inform any of his White House “staff” to prevent leaks. Notice how he emasculated Comey and the swamp denizens by letting them know in a tweet that the Attorney General got information (surveillance “tapes” from the seizure of Comey’s office) to let Comey and his handlers know that Trump’s DOJ has the goods on them. This was a brilliant, strategic and totally imperative move at exactly the right time against horrible, evil and corrupt powers infesting our government.
The swamp is on notice that the President is on to them, they are sweating bullets because their criminal games of corruption are being pursued and they know it. They are screaming and ranting because they are desperate denizens of the swamp who are beginning to realize they are roadkill.
THIS IS WHAT YOU NEED TO KNOW ABOUT THE COMEY SCAM. Taken from credible public sources (readily available if you want to look or want me to sent them to you), with a few reasonable “fill in the blank” conclusions of my own.
The Highlights:
Comey was a minor assistant US attorney in the late 90’s. He only gained power and money by being the DOJ official who “investigated” and cleared Bill Clinton of any wrong-doing in Clinton’s totally corrupt pardon (for huge payoffs) of criminal financier Marc Rich as Clinton was leaving the Presidency. This is how Comey began his career as a creature of the “swamp” years ago, as a servant of the Clintons.
Comey provided “cover” for the Clintons in their gaining incredible power and wealth after leaving office through pardoning a billionaire money-launderer, arms dealer and criminal. Comey was a key piece in how the Clintons upped their corruption game and gained incredible wealth through their foundation after leaving the White House. A huge part of the scheme was giving Marc Rich a free pass when he should have spent life in prison, and that is what Comey covered-up for the Clintons. This set up Comey to be part of the corruption machine, making him powerful and wealthy.
Immediately after doing the Clinton’s dirty work as a DOJ official, Comey resigned from the DOJ and took a position as the head attorney (Counsel) of the Lockheed Martin company, a huge military contractor. While he was in that position Lockheed became a major contributor (millions) to the Clinton Foundation and its fake charity spin-offs. In return for these payment to Clinton Inc., Lockheed received huge contracts with Hillary’s state department. Comey was the chief legal officer of Lockheed throughout this period of contributions to Clinton Inc. in return for State Dept. contracts.
In late 2012, after overseeing Lockheed’s successful relationship with the Hillary State Department and the resulting profits, Comey stepped down from Lockheed and received a $6 million dollar payout for his services.
Have ducked out for the last 10 or so pages. Did we get to the part about this "doesn't look good for Trump" yet? I was expecting an impeachment pretty much like 3 weeks ago. Now all I hear about is that we have a REAL PRESIDENT finally, awesome speeches, acting diplomatic (not same as being a puzzy) and not bowing (literally) to 'leaders' around the world.
What gives, Jeff. WHEN IS HE GETTING HAULED OFF IN CUFFS?
He's not. As evidenced by the fact that Jeff0 won't take AK's bet because he knows Trump isn't getting impeached and that would mean Jeff0 would have to leave this site (a bet on which he would renege like RobJordan/StarGazer, LostHighway and other known communists - a story we have seen unfold here on the 'fire many times). In other words, Jeff is a pussy and can't take the heat. Just posts fake news and hit and run. He wouldn't make a bet with me either because he knows he'd lose. "I don't make bets with children," he says. He knows he's wrong or he'd be making bets. Just your average pussy, wearing a pussyhat and sad her girl (with a penis) didn't win.
NYT reporting that the original intelligence intercepts had Russian intelligence bragging about being able to get to Flynn and Manafort... the pieces of the puzzle keep fitting together. How's the deep-state puzzle coming together?
I told myself I was going to not get involved further, but I'm going to make an exception since the forum Liberal says he doesn't even know who "Alinsky" is. Try Googling Play Dough, Jello, and maybe get some real intelligence about a topic you can actually handle, both literally and figuratively. Then post some pictures of Jack Asses you made with your own hands. Some will no doubt look like the Dimocraps logo and I'm betting at least one will look just like you.
NYT reporting that the original intelligence intercepts had Russian intelligence bragging about being able to get to Flynn and Manafort... the pieces of the puzzle keep fitting together. How's the deep-state puzzle coming together?
So Jeff is so uninformed he doesn't even know who Alinsky is ? And he is trying to school us on politics?
So Jeff explain to me why would the Russians be bragging about compromising Flynn & Manofort and why would they even bother with them if they already compromised Trump?
Also explain Seth Rich? Wikileaks claim he is the leak? Wikileaks has never been proven wrong.
Explain Comey declaring he couldn't prove intent with Clinton so he wouldn't press charges?
Since when was intent a factor in prosecuting a crime?
And since when did an investigator make that call?
Comey deserved to be fired for that alone.
A little critical thinking will help you connect the dots. If you cant do that in a case as simple as this you shouldn't comment on politics, hell you shouldn't even vote!
You seem to bask in your stupidity. Liberalism is a mental illness
Irfubar- intent is THE defining characteristic of an obstruction charge. If intent to obstruct can be shown, then Trump is already [bleep]. Not saying that it'll be shown, but that's it in a nutshell.
Smokepole- a bet is a contract and should be treated as such. I didn't care for the initial offer he made, as I recall, though I don't remember why (I think it was because what he was offering up if he lost was not of interest to me) but I'm open to negotiating a bet with him that works for both of us. Furthermore, I have a STANDING OFFER to anyone who reads this to bet about this issue. No takers, except maybe Jorge, but he keeps changing the terms (in contractual terms, making a counteroffer) which negates my latest offer to him... and around and around we go. Can't seem to nail that one down, but it ain't for lack of trying on my part. But anyway, given the above, why are you singling me out when the whole assembled group of readership of this thread has the opportunity to bet me, but won't? Where's THEIR conviction in their beliefs? Where's your criticism of that?
What may be escaping some here, if you only get your info from the alt.right blogosphere and Breitbart and the like, is that this whole thing is much further along than you might think. Investigators are proceeding under court supervision at this point, they have reached the subpoena point, which means they've demonstrated a significantly high degree of probability (I.E., probable cause) that crimes were committed. It also puts them de facto beyond political reach.
Here's a decent overview.
"But the real danger for Trump, ultimately, comes from an investigation that has its own momentum. Far from being the “witch hunt” that he has decried, it is moving with cold efficiency under the leadership of newly appointed special counsel Robert Mueller. Investigators have reportedly issued subpoenas for documents and are preparing to interview key players, a sign that the FBI is making tangible progress under the oversight of the courts."
The importance of the last sentence cannot be overstated. They are about to move against a very high ranking person in the West Wing ... Not just a nut job FBI director; not just rabid partisan witch-hunters... investigators with the full power of the courts behind them, which again, means they've shown probable cause. Read the whole thing here:
The essence of our "conversation" here is dysfunction and deflection and denial and angry kill-the-messenger rhetoric. It's my contention that that is due to this phenomenon:
..... many otherwise-smart folks here THINK they are connecting dots, but they are missing a whole bunch of said dots because they've gone full-retard with the "fake news! swamp creature!" rhetoric as a defense mechanism against the cognitive dissonance that they fear experiencing if they read alternative viewpoints. This is very evident here on this thread. And second, sheer rabid partisanship has a bunch of otherwise-patriotic Americans on the cusp of actually being supportive of Trump even if he's shown to have colluded. Example, very few here will say that they WON'T support him if that's the case. That disturbs me greatly. This shouldn't even be debatable. I illustrated this very concisely with my example using Jorge's aircraft carrier CO. He pulled the classic "that's so stupid I'm not even going to answer it!" dodge, which in this case- since my logic was unassailable- was simply that: a dodge.
I believe in my dot-connecting prowess enough to bet anyone that I'm right. The rest of you, don't. If you want to prove me wrong about that then let's get some bets locked down and in the books.
I watched 3 attorneys debating the issue, and you can be found guilty of an obstruction charge even if no initial crime occurred...just for blocking due process of the law/investigation.
If the police are investigating something in the street out in front of your house, and you obstruct their investigation, it's irrelevant what the outcome of that investigation ends up being as far as obstruction charges. It's ALL about intent.
OK, Jello. You are right and the rest of the world is wrong because you've perfected Google. Have you figured out Alinsky" yet?
Like a couple of others, I'm still wondering why you flogged on the bet that could require you to banish yourself here? Beyond that, I don't enter into a binding relationship such as betting with someone I don't trust. Comprende?
OK, Jello. You are right and the rest of the world is wrong because you've perfected Google. Have you figured out Alinsky" yet?
Like a couple of others, I'm still wondering why you flogged on the bet that could require you to banish yourself here? Beyond that, I don't enter into a binding relationship such as betting with someone I don't trust. Comprende?
Because, going from memory, it wasn't an equitable bet in my view.
Look. I'll bet you a dollar that the Seahawks beat your favorite football team. You turn that down, it's arguable that you don't believe in your team.
Now, I'll offer to bet you a dollar against the title of your house that the Seahawks beat your favorite team. If you turn down that bet, is it still arguable that you don't believe in your team?
I'll bet AK with the forum death penalty as my punishment if I lose... if he offers up something that I perceive as equal value to me if I win. The death penalty for HIM has no meaning to me; I'm not looking to get rid of him or anybody else around here.
To your other point, I've done a bunch of transactions with Fire members. Ever heard a complaint? No. You have not. I lose a bet, I'm paying up.
So bet me, bitches. Simple one/one bet, box of bullets. Equitable on the face of it. What are ya... chicken?
I've done well since his return, wasn't going to get into it about anything with him anymore, but holy [bleep].
Jeffo MO
Run with a rumor as truth Demand proof that it isn't true Make up pages of BS while stoned Make bets, changing rules along the way Declare victory after everyone points out what a liberal biased idiot he is
I'll bet anybody on here (besides Jeff0) $10.00 that Jeff0 is the dumbest SOB on the "24hr", Who's takin'?
I'm not taking the bet, but sadly that position garners some stiff competition. I've got about two dozen of him and his ilk on ignore as when they express their thoughts they have 0 value.
OK, Jello. You are right and the rest of the world is wrong because you've perfected Google. Have you figured out Alinsky" yet?
Like a couple of others, I'm still wondering why you flogged on the bet that could require you to banish yourself here? Beyond that, I don't enter into a binding relationship such as betting with someone I don't trust. Comprende?
Because, going from memory, it wasn't an equitable bet in my view.
Look. I'll bet you a dollar that the Seahawks beat your favorite football team. You turn that down, it's arguable that you don't believe in your team.
Now, I'll offer to bet you a dollar against the title of your house that the Seahawks beat your favorite team. If you turn down that bet, is it still arguable that you don't believe in your team?
I'll bet AK with the forum death penalty as my punishment if I lose... if he offers up something that I perceive as equal value to me if I win. The death penalty for HIM has no meaning to me; I'm not looking to get rid of him or anybody else around here.
To your other point, I've done a bunch of transactions with Fire members. Ever heard a complaint? No. You have not. I lose a bet, I'm paying up.
So bet me, bitches. Simple one/one bet, box of bullets. Equitable on the face of it. What are ya... chicken?
OK, Jello. You are right and the rest of the world is wrong because you've perfected Google. Have you figured out Alinsky" yet?
Like a couple of others, I'm still wondering why you flogged on the bet that could require you to banish yourself here? Beyond that, I don't enter into a binding relationship such as betting with someone I don't trust. Comprende?
Because, going from memory, it wasn't an equitable bet in my view.
Look. I'll bet you a dollar that the Seahawks beat your favorite football team. You turn that down, it's arguable that you don't believe in your team.
Now, I'll offer to bet you a dollar against the title of your house that the Seahawks beat your favorite team. If you turn down that bet, is it still arguable that you don't believe in your team?
I'll bet AK with the forum death penalty as my punishment if I lose... if he offers up something that I perceive as equal value to me if I win. The death penalty for HIM has no meaning to me; I'm not looking to get rid of him or anybody else around here.
To your other point, I've done a bunch of transactions with Fire members. Ever heard a complaint? No. You have not. I lose a bet, I'm paying up.
So bet me, bitches. Simple one/one bet, box of bullets. Equitable on the face of it. What are ya... chicken?
And what, pray tell would that be?
He's holding out for a lifetime supply of blunts and an original copy of Saul Alinsky's book..
I'll bet AK with the forum death penalty as my punishment if I lose... if he offers up something that I perceive as equal value to me if I win. The death penalty for HIM has no meaning to me; I'm not looking to get rid of him or anybody else around here.
To your other point, I've done a bunch of transactions with Fire members. Ever heard a complaint? No. You have not. I lose a bet, I'm paying up.
So bet me, bitches. Simple one/one bet, box of bullets. Equitable on the face of it. What are ya... chicken?
Irfubar- intent is THE defining characteristic of an obstruction charge. If intent to obstruct can be shown, then Trump is already [bleep]. Not saying that it'll be shown, but that's it in a nutshell.
Smokepole- a bet is a contract and should be treated as such. I didn't care for the initial offer he made, as I recall, though I don't remember why (I think it was because what he was offering up if he lost was not of interest to me) but I'm open to negotiating a bet with him that works for both of us. Furthermore, I have a STANDING OFFER to anyone who reads this to bet about this issue. No takers, except maybe Jorge, but he keeps changing the terms (in contractual terms, making a counteroffer) which negates my latest offer to him... and around and around we go. Can't seem to nail that one down, but it ain't for lack of trying on my part. But anyway, given the above, why are you singling me out when the whole assembled group of readership of this thread has the opportunity to bet me, but won't? Where's THEIR conviction in their beliefs? Where's your criticism of that?
What may be escaping some here, if you only get your info from the alt.right blogosphere and Breitbart and the like, is that this whole thing is much further along than you might think. Investigators are proceeding under court supervision at this point, they have reached the subpoena point, which means they've demonstrated a significantly high degree of probability (I.E., probable cause) that crimes were committed. It also puts them de facto beyond political reach.
Here's a decent overview.
"But the real danger for Trump, ultimately, comes from an investigation that has its own momentum. Far from being the “witch hunt” that he has decried, it is moving with cold efficiency under the leadership of newly appointed special counsel Robert Mueller. Investigators have reportedly issued subpoenas for documents and are preparing to interview key players, a sign that the FBI is making tangible progress under the oversight of the courts."
The importance of the last sentence cannot be overstated. They are about to move against a very high ranking person in the West Wing ... Not just a nut job FBI director; not just rabid partisan witch-hunters... investigators with the full power of the courts behind them, which again, means they've shown probable cause. Read the whole thing here:
The essence of our "conversation" here is dysfunction and deflection and denial and angry kill-the-messenger rhetoric. It's my contention that that is due to this phenomenon:
..... many otherwise-smart folks here THINK they are connecting dots, but they are missing a whole bunch of said dots because they've gone full-retard with the "fake news! swamp creature!" rhetoric as a defense mechanism against the cognitive dissonance that they fear experiencing if they read alternative viewpoints. This is very evident here on this thread. And second, sheer rabid partisanship has a bunch of otherwise-patriotic Americans on the cusp of actually being supportive of Trump even if he's shown to have colluded. Example, very few here will say that they WON'T support him if that's the case. That disturbs me greatly. This shouldn't even be debatable. I illustrated this very concisely with my example using Jorge's aircraft carrier CO. He pulled the classic "that's so stupid I'm not even going to answer it!" dodge, which in this case- since my logic was unassailable- was simply that: a dodge.
I believe in my dot-connecting prowess enough to bet anyone that I'm right. The rest of you, don't. If you want to prove me wrong about that then let's get some bets locked down and in the books.
You were 'tell' us all that Trump was phuqued two months ago (give or take). Now you're looking to take bets after years of being wrong about damn near everything political?
Fine.......box for box:. Trump isn't going to get impeached over this issue. Done?
Personally, I give zero schits one way or the other. If, and I mean IF he did wrong..........[bleep] him. I'm rolling with much noise with little substance, though.
Obviously not. Jeff blamed Mag for Jeff's own mistake. But yeah, Jeff needs to pay up.
Don't tell Jeff.........Truth be told I really don't want Jeff to pay up, I would not be comfortable with him having my address who knows what his drug addled mind would be capable of........
I have a box of boolets that says Trump will not be impeached. Period... No other disclaimers. Future R congress or D congress does not matter as long as he holds office.
I will even sweeten that deal and offer your choice of bets.
I will put up ten boxes of bullets of your choice buy them now and place them in escrow. The bet; Trump will not be impeached for anything he has done to date 5-25-17. This bet to be settled on 12-31-18.. You put up, since you posted to me a year ago that you would no longer engage in politics "because you sucked at it", your word that you WILL NO LONGER hold political discourse here on the Fire. You do not have to leave the Fire just no more politics for you...period ...
Now this is a stretch for me since you have already said once you would no longer be discussing politics (since you suck at it) and have not kept your word but I will give you the chance to be good and hold you to a gentleman's bet....Are you having any of it?
I have a box of boolets that says Trump will not be impeached. Period... No other disclaimers. Future R congress or D congress does not matter as long as he holds office.
I will even sweeten that deal and offer your choice of bets.
I will put up ten boxes of bullets of your choice buy them now and place them in escrow. The bet; Trump will not be impeached for anything he has done to date 5-25-17. This bet to be settled on 12-31-18.. You put up, since you posted to me a year ago that you would no longer engage in politics "because you sucked at it", your word that you WILL NO LONGER hold political discourse here on the Fire. You do not have to leave the Fire just no more politics for you...period ...
Now this is a stretch for me since you have already said once you would no longer be discussing politics (since you suck at it) and have not kept your word but I will give you the chance to be good and hold you to a gentleman's bet....Are you having any of it?
Well, that there contains the elements of the contract that Jeff has demanded. 1) a specific thing 2) a specific time 3) a specific payments. Easy to bog a thing down with a bunch of complications but that seems pretty straightforward. Certainly enough for 'these parts'.
Jeff, this is where you get to counter offer. Counter offer is not writing three paragraphs of BS either. Counter offer is saying something like, I'll take it but with a date of 2-15-19. Sure as you are I'd up the anti and say Trump is impeached by the July 4th, for 20 boxes of boolets...or I just leave forever. But that's essentially how offer counter offer works. I've not seen you make an actual offer that includes the elements of a contract as the above offer does.
Then Okie can agree or not. Or you can just man up and take a most reasonable and clearly defined offer, as presented above. I'll not hold my breath and doubt any others are either.
Smokepole- a bet is a contract and should be treated as such. I didn't care for the initial offer he made, as I recall, though I don't remember why (I think it was because what he was offering up if he lost was not of interest to me) but I'm open to negotiating a bet with him that works for both of us. Furthermore, I have a STANDING OFFER to anyone who reads this to bet about this issue. No takers, except maybe Jorge, but he keeps changing the terms (in contractual terms, making a counteroffer) which negates my latest offer to him... and around and around we go. Can't seem to nail that one down, but it ain't for lack of trying on my part. But anyway, given the above, why are you singling me out when the whole assembled group of readership of this thread has the opportunity to bet me, but won't? Where's THEIR conviction in their beliefs? Where's your criticism of that?
What a load of horse sh**. You asked a question. I provided an answer. If you disagree with my answer, say so. I don't have the time to sort through all the drama contained in your post. Or the inclination.
I have a box of boolets that says Trump will not be impeached. Period... No other disclaimers. Future R congress or D congress does not matter as long as he holds office.
I will even sweeten that deal and offer your choice of bets.
I will put up ten boxes of bullets of your choice buy them now and place them in escrow. The bet; Trump will not be impeached for anything he has done to date 5-25-17. This bet to be settled on 12-31-18.. You put up, since you posted to me a year ago that you would no longer engage in politics "because you sucked at it", your word that you WILL NO LONGER hold political discourse here on the Fire. You do not have to leave the Fire just no more politics for you...period ...
Now this is a stretch for me since you have already said once you would no longer be discussing politics (since you suck at it) and have not kept your word but I will give you the chance to be good and hold you to a gentleman's bet....Are you having any of it?
Hi Okie,
That's not an unreasonable offer. It's not what *I've* been floating out there; what I have been trying to get takers on is that Trump and/or members of his campaign would be "shown", prior to the 2018 midterms, to have colluded with Russia, because earlier in this thread most everyone was in vehement denial that collusion was even a possibility. One of my prime motivators here, on this thread, has been to try to pry open some brains so as to let a bit of reality seep in; that reality being, that any well-informed dot-connector would have to concede this likelihood. Either I succeeded at that, or else the events that have been reported since we started this thread have opened some eyes, or else these guys are just gutless... but there doesn't seem to be a whole lot of resistance around here anymore to the notion that there was likely collusion, as evidenced by the near-total lack of simple 1:1 bets about that, try as I might to find takers.
So my next goal is to get folks to concede that such collusion would be a big deal, also vehemently denied in these parts.
Now, as I've said recently and more than once, I'm starting to think that it's at least possible that Trump himself knew nothing of any collusion. I mean it's either that or he just colossally clueless; his actions recently (firing Comey, saying publically that Russia was a reason, bragging to the Russians about it, etc) are really hard for me to understand in the context of him being personally guilty of this, but if he's clean, then they are at least understandable, if really, really tone-deaf. If he's guilty of it, they can only be seen as some kind of desperate, extremely high-stakes bluff and I don't think that's what's happening here. Or, he could think that his base is so willing to believe anything that comes out of his mouth that he's playing to the base in a misguided attempt to.... I don't know... start a revolution?! That doesn't make sense either. So, at this moment my particular guess is that he personally was not involved in the collusion. But as always- I could be wrong about that.
Back to your offer. I'm inclined to take your first bet, if for no other reason than to just FINALLY get one on the books, but we need to clarify a couple things first. Most important is what do you mean by "impeached"? Impeachment is a 2-step process. The House passes articles of impeachment, the Senate convicts. Bill Clinton is said to have been "impeached", but he was obviously not convicted in the Senste, nor removed from office.So, what do *you* mean by it?
Because I kinda suspect he'll end up leaving office through other means, technically. Nixon, for example, resigned.
Let me know what you are thinking there. And THANKS for being, I dunno, real.
Smokepole- a bet is a contract and should be treated as such. I didn't care for the initial offer he made, as I recall, though I don't remember why (I think it was because what he was offering up if he lost was not of interest to me) but I'm open to negotiating a bet with him that works for both of us. Furthermore, I have a STANDING OFFER to anyone who reads this to bet about this issue. No takers, except maybe Jorge, but he keeps changing the terms (in contractual terms, making a counteroffer) which negates my latest offer to him... and around and around we go. Can't seem to nail that one down, but it ain't for lack of trying on my part. But anyway, given the above, why are you singling me out when the whole assembled group of readership of this thread has the opportunity to bet me, but won't? Where's THEIR conviction in their beliefs? Where's your criticism of that?
What a load of horse sh**. You asked a question. I provided an answer. If you disagree with my answer, say so. I don't have the time to sort through all the drama contained in your post. Or the inclination.
Your answer was silly.
Since you can't/won't parse words all of a sudden I'll just leave it at that.
No it wasn't. When someone is spouting off about what they are sure will happen, a time-honored technique to call their bluff is to make a bet that involves them risking something really valuable to them. A box of bullets is a trifle.
When they won't take the bet, it's a dead giveaway that they're not willing to "put their money where their mouth is."
Impeachment is clearly done by the house so to clarify the terms set forth in my offer it would mean impeachment by the house and would not include conviction by the Senate.
Colusion" is the latest form of smoke and mirrors set forth by a biased media who do not hold to our level of morality or patriotism and want nothing more than to see the end to our way of life. Public discourse with such people serves no purpose and wastes time. That is not hiding our heads in the sand its called knowing what you believe in and standing up for it .I am far from alone...
Having clarified that why then would I waste my time and resources with you? Among my many skills I have a background in training horses and I always gave even the bad ones the chance to be good. Here's your chance to prove if your bad or just gullible and misguided. There is a chance it could do neither one but that is the nature of a bet. My assessment of you right now is you have a few good traits but you are hard to load in the trailer although you have got in it a few times. No one has taken the time to teach you how to give.(In a horseman's world that has nothing to do with benevolence) You do not know what you do not know. There's holes in your training but hope they can be filled in.
If you lose the bet and follow its terms you can stay on the fire and just listen and learn more about politics and hopefully other things life in this great country has to offer from "real" folks like us. Now the first bet I offered is just that very simple but there is no denying the second bet is much more intriguing...Yes? Ask yourself this...If you accept the second bet and lose then follow its terms, who wins? Are you having any of it?
I think it's possible that impeachment proceedings could take place, based on the investigations...I don't think the Congress will vote to impeach him tho, it would take serious evidence for that to ever happen with a Republican controlled House/Senate.
No it wasn't. When someone is spouting off about what they are sure will happen, a time-honored technique to call their bluff is to make a bet that involves them risking something really valuable to them. A box of bullets is a trifle.
When they won't take the bet, it's a dead giveaway that they're not willing to "put their money where their mouth is."
So, by your logic, the fact that most of these wankers won't even bet a box of bullets is a dead giveaway that they don't believe their own BS enough to even risk a "trifle". Got it. And I agree. Ain't that just a [bleep] peach.
I'll put my money where my mouth is. But that doesn't mean I'll take any harebrained, inequitable bet offered.
To your first proposal, to illuminate my reason for not jumping on it, I think that should it come to that, Trump would resign before formal impeachment proceedings were concluded. Since that would have me technically losing the bet while winning the overall argument, that doesn't work for me. So here's my counter:
A box of bullets says Trump won't finish his first term.
As to your second proposal, first, I would never require you to put the bullets in escrow. I'm operating in good faith here and my presumption is that you are as well or we wouldn't be talking. This is why, for instance, I won't bet bigfish: he's willing to flat out lie to defame me, then continue the lie even when it's shown he's lying! And mark my words, he'll keep doing it. But for those of you who aren't lying scum, which is most of you, my presumption is good faith on your part and that's my posture as well.
As to the meat of your second offer, you're going to have to bear with me a second here.
Think about the points I've been trying to make here- about the breakdown of civil discourse between partisans, primarily. Look at my .sig; look at the other thread I started about motivated ignorance... Okie, this isn't me trying to be annoying; this is an issue I care DEEPLY about. Our society is in a pickle, MULTIPLE pickles, and we will not find productive and palatable ways forward by sticking our fingers in our ears. The 30% of rabid partisans on either end of the spectrum, who are basically unwilling to engage ideas outside their comfort zone and will turn red and stomp their feet if presented with such, ARE THE PROBLEM. Or at a minimum are a huge barrier to any solutions.
If I took my conservative views on guns, race, free speech, etc to a hardcore liberal forum, guess what would happen. They'd call me all manner of names. They'd gang up. They'd form a circle-jerk and agree with each other about how awful I was. Sound familiar?
But people like me, IE folks with a foot in both camps, who are willing to engage with and absorb the heat from the rabid partisans, are absolutely critical for the very survival of productive discourse in our society! And we are rare. There are a bunch of people here who more or less agree with the things I've been saying- again, more or less- and have expressed that to me in PM's. But they want nothing to do with trying to talk to what several have independently described as "the crazy people" on the Campfire forum. Because of my personality, the path I took to get here on this forum, and ironically my head injury, which greatly increased my "IDGAF" capacity and ability to let stuff roll off... I AM willing to talk to the crazy people!
So my question to YOU is.... you're a reasonable-seeming person; why would you even want to win that bet? Why is it SO IMPORTANT to so many of you that I shut up, or go away forever? Why is it so crucial that you not hear opposing points of view? Have you always been so iconoclastic? I submit that collectively, you have not. Over the past 15-20 years, I've helplessly watched about 1/3 of society, a 1/3 I think is really crucial, and who I at least somewhat identify with in terms of many shared values and ideals, obviously not ALL, but many... I've watched them slowly get indoctrinated into a belief system, a paradigm as it were, that AS LONG AS THEY STAY INSIDE IT, they can (apparently) sleep at night. This started with talk radio (dittos!) in the early 90's and has progressed since then, and has accelerated greatly in the last few years.
That mentality, I'm saying to you, is just as pure a poison on the Right as it is on the Left.
So you are asking me put up, on my side, a deeply-held core value of mine: the belief that smart people can figure [bleep] out if they communicate, and that it is absolutely critical to keep those lines of communication open. Against that you bet 10 boxes of bullets.
I'll pass on that one, but I wanted to give you the respect of a proper answer.
Jeffo in case you have not watched or read the news in the last 30 or so years or so,the crap that you spout is nothing but the same crap that has been on the airways and in the print media.
That said i respect your right to believe what you want but to hear you get all upset because no one will take up your misguided view is downright stupid,on your part.being how you are so perfect and all.
"Ask yourself this...If you accept the second bet and lose then follow its terms, who wins?" The answer....you.
My terms were not for you to go away forever just follow your instincts you displayed to me in your post last year and keep your word that you would stay out of politics on the Fire as your "dot connecting" still sucks. The "slow indoctrination" is not from the conservative side of life but the creeping socialism that invades this great country, iconoclasm lies solely with the left.
I will say it again, you have some conservative views which are in conflict with your other leanings. It is painful to watch you straddle the fence and gotta be hard on the nads... You and I have a few things in common but you need to ask more questions...you do not know what you do not know...
Oh and about the 30% you spoke of a great teacher once said that it was the 30% in the middle that was the problem he said they were lukewarm neither hot nor cold and he would spit them out. That is why you gather little respect here or in liberal circles. Hard on the nads...Have you heard of this teacher?
Who's upset? Not me. The only time I got a bit upset was when bigfish flat out lied and claimed I said something I didn't say. Beyond that, when did get upset?
When did "you guys" get upset? Well, let's see.... how about pages 1-39?
I also respect your right to your opinions. What I do not respect is people willfully ignoring information they don't want to hear.
Here's one for ya... from the unbiased (haha) Washington Post no less. Fake news! Fake news!
Ignore all the smoke at your peril folks.
"Jared Kushner and Russia’s ambassador to Washington discussed the possibility of setting up a secret and secure communications channel between Trump’s transition team and the Kremlin, using Russian diplomatic facilities in an apparent move to shield their pre-inauguration discussions from monitoring, according to U.S. officials briefed on intelligence reports.
I'll put my money where my mouth is. But that doesn't mean I'll take any harebrained, inequitable bet offered.
The bet was about as equitable as you can get. Whoever loses disappears. What's inequitable about it?
Uh...... that winning that as my prize has absolutely zero value to me since I don't want to make AK leave...? So if he wins, he gets something he wants. If I win, I don't. Inequitable defined.
I'll put my money where my mouth is. But that doesn't mean I'll take any harebrained, inequitable bet offered.
The bet was about as equitable as you can get. Whoever loses disappears. What's inequitable about it?
Uh...... I know I am going to lose the bet with AK and I don't want to leave because I have no life and only wish to chitpost here with literally no evidence to back up my claims to stir the pot while I smoke the pot. So when he wins, he gets something he wants. "Pussy" defined.
That ladder fall sure [bleep] your head up more, man. How's the PTSD today?
I'll call the local fire department and send a ladder truck over. Do us a favor and climb to the top...
Just factor in who/what you're talking to and move on. You can't fix Stupid.
Shhh... I'm busy talking with the superhuman.
And my ladder accident evidence is hidden in the best place ever. Right under Jeff's evidence of Trump-russia collusion (entirely legal) and crimes (entirely illegal).
Obviously not. Jeff blamed Mag for Jeff's own mistake. But yeah, Jeff needs to pay up.
Don't tell Jeff.........Truth be told I really don't want Jeff to pay up, I would not be comfortable with him having my address who knows what his drug addled mind would be capable of........
Easy peasy Toby! Have him send it to your local police department, attention 12344mag!
Benchman, I agree that the political calculus would be that he won't... as well as common sense, since it would give the impression of guilt.
However, that was also true of firing Comey when and how he did it... but he did it anyway.
He's clearly not a particularly rational nor forward-planning man. His emotions and id seem to override his judgement, routinely. So, as the pressure builds as Thursday approaches... who knows.
Don't know where you source your intel but from what I see, the storm clouds have gathered, the cold wind has hit, the air smells like ozone, and the curtain of rain is sweeping across the landscape. It's close. Mueller et al know that while the end-game for this drama is still many months or years out, there's important maneuvers to be made in this, the middle game, and they are about to occur over the next few weeks or so. It's clearly been communicated to ranking Dem's in Congress- who've seen the intel, and were very antsy a few months ago- to just cool their jets and give LEO's a bit of time... that the hammer was coming... if you have followed the arc of their comments in both what they've said and how they've said it, that's pretty obvious.
I'll reiterate my desire to get some bets on the books with you guys.
Also, when it turns out I'm right about this stuff in general, and it will, , I'm concerned that I might not "teabag" you guys in a way that meets with your approval. Nice guy that I am, I want to be as considerate as possible (under the circumstances) and I know many here likely have a preference. So-- start thinkin' on that, 'k guys? Would you rather a simple side-to-side motion? Or maybe some circular action? If the latter, clockwise or counterclockwise? Do you want any knee-dips in there?
I can and WILL do my best to tailor the 'bagging to individual tastes but I need the info to do so. Thanks, buddies!
I have no idea why you think you're right. Seems to be a sticking point. You have no evidence to support your stance, only innuendo. Neither do I, but should there be any wrongdoing, I'm all for punishment. My feeling, is that if there WERE actually wrongdoing, the left would be on it like flies on poop. They have done nothing at all. That leads me to believe they are just throwing poop around the room to mess it up. They have nothing. They are fighting dirty, and making baseless accusations, to damage a Republican President. Big whoop. What else is new?
Benchman, I agree that the political calculus would be that he won't... as well as common sense, since it would give the impression of guilt.
However, that was also true of firing Comey when and how he did it... but he did it anyway.
He's clearly not a particularly rational nor forward-planning man. His emotions and id seem to override his judgement, routinely. So, as the pressure builds as Thursday approaches... who knows.
Don't know where you source your intel but from what I see, the storm clouds have gathered, the cold wind has hit, the air smells like ozone, and the curtain of rain is sweeping across the landscape. It's close. Mueller et al know that while the end-game for this drama is still many months or years out, there's important maneuvers to be made in this, the middle game, and they are about to occur over the next few weeks or so. It's clearly been communicated to ranking Dem's in Congress- who've seen the intel, and were very antsy a few months ago- to just cool their jets and give LEO's a bit of time... that the hammer was coming... if you have followed the arc of their comments in both what they've said and how they've said it, that's pretty obvious.
I'll reiterate my desire to get some bets on the books with you guys.
Also, when it turns out I'm right about this stuff in general, and it will, , I'm concerned that I might not "teabag" you guys in a way that meets with your approval. Nice guy that I am, I want to be as considerate as possible (under the circumstances) and I know many here likely have a preference. So-- start thinkin' on that, 'k guys? Would you rather a simple side-to-side motion? Or maybe some circular action? If the latter, clockwise or counterclockwise? Do you want any knee-dips in there?
I can and WILL do my best to tailor the 'bagging to individual tastes but I need the info to do so. Thanks, buddies!
You have devolved to a Fuggtard Jeff. Congratulations on your final transformation to forum azzhole extraordinaire. Bye Bye
, I'm concerned that I might not "teabag" you guys in a way that meets with your approval. Nice guy that I am, I want to be as considerate as possible (under the circumstances) and I know many here likely have a preference. So-- start thinkin' on that, 'k guys? Would you rather a simple side-to-side motion? Or maybe some circular action? If the latter, clockwise or counterclockwise? Do you want any knee-dips in there?
I can and WILL do my best to tailor the 'bagging to individual tastes but I need the info to do so. Thanks, buddies!
Now you're talking about butt pumping other guys, Is it the drugs that cause you to lean that way or is it natural tendencies on your part?
, I'm concerned that I might not "teabag" you guys in a way that meets with your approval. Nice guy that I am, I want to be as considerate as possible (under the circumstances) and I know many here likely have a preference. So-- start thinkin' on that, 'k guys? Would you rather a simple side-to-side motion? Or maybe some circular action? If the latter, clockwise or counterclockwise? Do you want any knee-dips in there?
I can and WILL do my best to tailor the 'bagging to individual tastes but I need the info to do so. Thanks, buddies!
Now you're talking about butt pumping other guys, Is it the drugs that cause you to lean that way or is it natural tendencies on your part?
I have no idea why you think you're right. Seems to be a sticking point. You have no evidence to support your stance, only innuendo. Neither do I, but should there be any wrongdoing, I'm all for punishment. My feeling, is that if there WERE actually wrongdoing, the left would be on it like flies on poop. They have done nothing at all. That leads me to believe they are just throwing poop around the room to mess it up. They have nothing. They are fighting dirty, and making baseless accusations, to damage a Republican President. Big whoop. What else is new?
Simple. He believes, like he did in Obama. Its a feeling, you know, like when piss runs down yer laig.
Jell0 wants Trump to fail. It could result in his indulgence in illegal substances becoming legal. He's thinking positive and building hidden forces to bring Trump down as per Zeros advice- "just believe".
Its to ostensibly reverse the great crime of Russia dicking Hitlary. What an honorable man, who gives not one twit about the real crime of collusion between Hillary and the FBI, CIA, and NSA and their politicalization against the law and people of the country.
Hat, you should be ashamed of playing with the brains of the slow and insane. .
Benchman, I agree that the political calculus would be that he won't... as well as common sense, since it would give the impression of guilt.
However, that was also true of firing Comey when and how he did it... but he did it anyway.
He's clearly not a particularly rational nor forward-planning man. His emotions and id seem to override his judgement, routinely. So, as the pressure builds as Thursday approaches... who knows.
That "clearly not rational nor forward-planning man" beat put together a team that beat a bunch of seasoned Republican politicians and the rest of the political establishment. I'm guessing you think that was just happenstance.
Don't know where you source your intel but from what I see, the storm clouds have gathered, the cold wind has hit, the air smells like ozone, and the curtain of rain is sweeping across the landscape. It's close. Mueller et al know that while the end-game for this drama is still many months or years out, there's important maneuvers to be made in this, the middle game, and they are about to occur over the next few weeks or so. It's clearly been communicated to ranking Dem's in Congress- who've seen the intel, and were very antsy a few months ago- to just cool their jets and give LEO's a bit of time... that the hammer was coming... if you have followed the arc of their comments in both what they've said and how they've said it, that's pretty obvious.
I'll reiterate my desire to get some bets on the books with you guys.
Also, when it turns out I'm right about this stuff in general, and it will, , I'm concerned that I might not "teabag" you guys in a way that meets with your approval. Nice guy that I am, I want to be as considerate as possible (under the circumstances) and I know many here likely have a preference. So-- start thinkin' on that, 'k guys? Would you rather a simple side-to-side motion? Or maybe some circular action? If the latter, clockwise or counterclockwise? Do you want any knee-dips in there?
I can and WILL do my best to tailor the 'bagging to individual tastes but I need the info to do so. Thanks, buddies!
If you ran your mouth in person like you do on the internet, I'm thinking there are more then a few guys on here that would beat you like a red head stepchild.
Benchman, I agree that the political calculus would be that he won't... as well as common sense, since it would give the impression of guilt.
However, that was also true of firing Comey when and how he did it... but he did it anyway.
He's clearly not a particularly rational nor forward-planning man. His emotions and id seem to override his judgement, routinely. So, as the pressure builds as Thursday approaches... who knows.
That "clearly not rational nor forward-planning man" beat put together a team that beat a bunch of seasoned Republican politicians and the rest of the political establishment. I'm guessing you think that was just happenstance.
Don't know where you source your intel but from what I see, the storm clouds have gathered, the cold wind has hit, the air smells like ozone, and the curtain of rain is sweeping across the landscape. It's close. Mueller et al know that while the end-game for this drama is still many months or years out, there's important maneuvers to be made in this, the middle game, and they are about to occur over the next few weeks or so. It's clearly been communicated to ranking Dem's in Congress- who've seen the intel, and were very antsy a few months ago- to just cool their jets and give LEO's a bit of time... that the hammer was coming... if you have followed the arc of their comments in both what they've said and how they've said it, that's pretty obvious.
I'll reiterate my desire to get some bets on the books with you guys.
Also, when it turns out I'm right about this stuff in general, and it will, , I'm concerned that I might not "teabag" you guys in a way that meets with your approval. Nice guy that I am, I want to be as considerate as possible (under the circumstances) and I know many here likely have a preference. So-- start thinkin' on that, 'k guys? Would you rather a simple side-to-side motion? Or maybe some circular action? If the latter, clockwise or counterclockwise? Do you want any knee-dips in there?
I can and WILL do my best to tailor the 'bagging to individual tastes but I need the info to do so. Thanks, buddies!
If you ran your mouth in person like you do on the internet, I'm thinking there are more then a few guys on here that would beat you like a red head stepchild.
So many keyboard tough guys. Why am I not surprised you're one of them.
Not claiming to be a tough guy at all, I haven't been in a fistfight in 20 years. If you weren't trolling you could go back through what few posts I've made pretty easily and never come across me claiming to be a tough guy. I long ago realized no matter how tough you are there is always someone tougher.
I think after 10 years on the forum I've got a pretty good handle on quite a few of the folks on here and would guess there are more than a few that would take what JeffO has said in this thread as fighting words if said face to face.
How did you read that, and come away with Putin saying he had compromising intel on Trump? He basically said we are nuts, to think there was collusion.
So my next goal is to get folks to concede that such collusion would be a big deal, also vehemently denied in these parts.
Now, as I've said recently and more than once, I'm starting to think that it's at least possible that Trump himself knew nothing of any collusion. I mean it's either that or he just colossally clueless; his actions recently (firing Comey, saying publically that Russia was a reason, bragging to the Russians about it, etc) are really hard for me to understand in the context of him being personally guilty of this, but if he's clean, then they are at least understandable, if really, really tone-deaf. If he's guilty of it, they can only be seen as some kind of desperate, extremely high-stakes bluff and I don't think that's what's happening here. Or, he could think that his base is so willing to believe anything that comes out of his mouth that he's playing to the base in a misguided attempt to.... I don't know... start a revolution?! That doesn't make sense either. So, at this moment my particular guess is that he personally was not involved in the collusion. But as always- I could be wrong about that.
I don't think there was collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia but even if there was, it kept Hillary out of the White House. I'm with Machiavelli on this one.
So my next goal is to get folks to concede that such collusion would be a big deal, also vehemently denied in these parts.
Now, as I've said recently and more than once, I'm starting to think that it's at least possible that Trump himself knew nothing of any collusion. I mean it's either that or he just colossally clueless; his actions recently (firing Comey, saying publically that Russia was a reason, bragging to the Russians about it, etc) are really hard for me to understand in the context of him being personally guilty of this, but if he's clean, then they are at least understandable, if really, really tone-deaf. If he's guilty of it, they can only be seen as some kind of desperate, extremely high-stakes bluff and I don't think that's what's happening here. Or, he could think that his base is so willing to believe anything that comes out of his mouth that he's playing to the base in a misguided attempt to.... I don't know... start a revolution?! That doesn't make sense either. So, at this moment my particular guess is that he personally was not involved in the collusion. But as always- I could be wrong about that.
I don't think there was collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia but even if there was, it kept Hillary out of the White House. I'm with Machiavelli on this one.
The only scenario JeffO does not consider, is that there was no collusion AND that even if there was, it is not illegal. In order to press a charge, there has to be a crime. Tough concept, apparently.
I don't think there was collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia but even if there was, it kept Hillary out of the White House. I'm with Machiavelli on this one.
Typical complete lack of principles. Not surprising for around here. It's all good if it is going "my way".
I don't think there was collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia but even if there was, it kept Hillary out of the White House. I'm with Machiavelli on this one.
Typical complete lack of principles. Not surprising for around here. It's all good if it is going "my way".
Just provide ONE PAGE of proof.
Hell, you'd be rich! It would be worth billions!
The press and every other liberal has been hunting that one page of proof for a year now. It went into overdrive after Hitlery lost.
I'll put my money where my mouth is. But that doesn't mean I'll take any harebrained, inequitable bet offered.
The bet was about as equitable as you can get. Whoever loses disappears. What's inequitable about it?
Uh...... that winning that as my prize has absolutely zero value to me since I don't want to make AK leave...? So if he wins, he gets something he wants. If I win, I don't. Inequitable defined.
I had zero issues with you up until this thread, your arrogance and name calling anyone that doesn't see things the way you do bothered me to the point that I offered up that bet. There was nothing hare brained about my offer, it was a straight up bet which you declined to take.
You also wrote a post stating how you suck at politics and how you wouldn't post on it anymore, which makes you a liar. The only thing worse than a liar is a thief.
And still no proof of any wrong doing by Trump.........
You also wrote a post stating how you suck at politics and how you wouldn't post on it anymore, which makes you a liar. The only thing worse than a liar is a thief.
And still no proof of any wrong doing by Trump.........
It's my sig line
Originally Posted by Jeff_O
I will do this ONE TIME so listen up <g>. I do not argue politics anymore. I do not FOLLOW politics anymore. I sucked at it anyway <g>. I'm done with that [bleep].
I don't think there was collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia but even if there was, it kept Hillary out of the White House. I'm with Machiavelli on this one.
Typical complete lack of principles. Not surprising for around here. It's all good if it is going "my way".
Not a lack of principles, just an understanding that politics is a game without principles. We just finished an eight year term with a leader who continually fought for the other side. I'm happy to have a leader who is determined to fight for America.
Former FBI director James Comey is formally refusing to answer questions submitted to him by a bipartisan group of senators, suggesting he no longer must do so as a private citizen.
I have an unconfirmed rumor --------- but I think it's probably true.
I am good friends with a 2 "high level government employees". Both told me that the President wanted to set things up to confront Comey, but Comey made it a point to be "too busy" and flew to LA to give his speech. There is a possibility (or maybe a probability) he had some behind the seens meetings to attend too, one of which may have been with a courier for Obama. The speech is the cover story for the real reason the trip was important to him. The speech and the meeting are confirmed but the focus of the meeting is not and was kept secret. Both of my friends tell me that they can only speculate as to the content of those meetings and why is was so important to Comey, but the process of elimination slims it down to only a few reasons, none of which were likely to be legit or they would have been public, and on the itinerary. My friends details are 2nd hand too, but close to the top in their sources. Hence my belief that their story is probably accurate.
Anyway, Comey was not going to cooperate with Trump's re-write of his schedule, and made it a point to "fly the finger" and "make him wait".
So President Trump did what I believe I would have done. Probably what any good manager would do. He fired him anyway, and let the press tell him.
So the idea that he should have done it face to face may or may not have some merit, but Comey forced the issue (again) and this time Trump just threw the switch anyway.
I say Good for Trump! Good for the USA!
"Too busy" to meet with your boss = fired in most instances.
Which is stupid, like him. Why would you want any President to fail, if they have America and American's best interest?
Ask Jorge
Even when posed by a moron, a fair question needs to be answered. The difference is, many of us that wanted obama (the marxist to fail) was not personal but rather his marxist-infused policies and beliefs that in his own very words "wanted to fundamentally change this country" and as such, "America's best interests" were the exact opposite.
As opposed to the morons ( like you and the lying moron jeffobama) who want Trump to fail, not so much for his policies, but for his persona.
And just in case well-reasoned, cogent answers frighten and confuse you, here's a picture that might just spark your single celled zygote brain to get a clue.
This is a good point. I loathe Obama for his policies, and for the fact that he was never an "America First" guy. He campaigned as an apologist to the World to capitalize on Bush's unpopularity abroad. If Obama had any talent at all, he could have mended many fences broken over Iraq , etc. No one in Europe really had a beef with us going into Afghanistan after 9-11, but got pissy about Iraq.
After 8 years of Obama, our relations with Europe remain cool, race relations are their worst since the 1960s, the Arab World went into utter chaos with the Arab Spring and Obama's destabilization of Assad. Whereas we had a Saddam-free Iraq building itself, Obamas coitus interuptus pulling troops out prematurely allowed ISIS to carve out a nation with oil production and a means to support terror.
Coal was killed and with it jobs. Oil production was hampered and with those two things our ability to become energy independent died. The country became obsessed with gender identity which affects about 0.001% of the population. Law Enforcement was shackled with fears of a Justice Department probe should they attempt to establish law and order in Black areas in cities such as Chicago. Let's not even talk about the professional protestors and rioters that crippled Fergusson, Baltimore, and Charlotte, paid by and transported by George Soros.
Iran and NK are nuclear.
See I have a whole list of reasons not to like Barack Obama beside the fact that my guy didn't win. That's all the Left has right now - "my guy didn't win so I'm gonna screw your guy". The biggest opposition against Obama was the birther farce. Big deal. Anybody pose with Obama's severed head? Nope, don't think so.
Trump hasn't even been in office 5 months and he has withstood a withering attack for what? He didn't even have a cabinet together for 8 weeks due to Dem obstruction. Trump hasn't been in office long enough to love or hate him for his policies. The Left is paralyzed by getting their own dose of Alinksy
Rule 1 "Power is not only what you have, but what the enemy thinks you have." Rule 9 - "The threat is usually more terrifying than the thing itself." Imagination and ego can dream up many more consequences than any activist.
Trump is in power, and the Left is terrified that he will remake society undoing this Socialist/Globalist mess that is leading to the destruction of Western Culture and the likelihood of throwing the World into a second Dark Age dominated by China and India, because they will never allow the Muslims and other economically destitute immigrants from destroying their culture.
Unfortunately, Zero didnt fail as much as Rush and I wanted him to. The biggest crime of turning the nsa, cia and fbi against the folks are unimportant to disengenuous libs like star, leroy and jello.
I'm afraid the Øbama was very successful in placing Leftist ideologues throughout the government from judges to WH staffers. It was never about getting "good"people as it was "their" people. I'm sure the Clintons were a part of this because they were absolutely sure they were going to slide in and take over and have the right people in place to take us to the Euro-Socialist model as fast as possible. This is al witnessed by the leaks, the court injunctions fighting a minor immigration moratorium from a few specific unorganized countries, and the funded and orchestrated "protests" against Trump.
I'm afraid the Øbama was very successful in placing Leftist ideologues throughout the government from judges to WH staffers. It was never about getting "good"people as it was "their" people. I'm sure the Clintons were a part of this because they were absolutely sure they were going to slide in and take over and have the right people in place to take us to the Euro-Socialist model as fast as possible. This is al witnessed by the leaks, the court injunctions fighting a minor immigration moratorium from a few specific unorganized countries, and the funded and orchestrated "protests" against Trump.
To take that a bit further, Oblammy also had MANY Muslims, in key positions. Hardly a coincidence.
Thursday will be interesting, though as stated in this article Comey is unlikely to spend much time on this. However, Trump's response to the below will be fascinating. It gets to the core of WHY collusion is so insidious in this case, plus, why the FLEO & intelligence community is in such a difficult position as they attempt to investigate and eventually prosecute Americans who assisted Russia : the POTUS himself, and/or close associates, are the subject of such investigations... and POTUS is CiC.... technically the intel community is bound to provide such information to, wait for it, the very guy who might be compromised.
I'm still on the fence as to whether POTUS had any knowledge of what was happening at the time, though his continual refusal to admit the possibility of Russian interference is NOT a good look. Suppose it could be explained via pure ego on Trump's part- an unwillingness to concede that he got help in his historic win. We saw that level of delusional ego on full display with InaugurationCrowdGate and PopularVoteGate. His continuing refusal to acknowledge reality is much more puzzling at least in terms of viewing him as an honest and innocent man. As I've said many times... the current reality would be utterly different if he'd just embraced the investigation early on rather than denying and (it appears) obstructing it. Why in the name of all that is right and proper would a man claiming to be a patriotic America-first advocate have such a glaring blind spot even in the face of such overwhelming evidence?! Inquiring minds want to know (most of you do not qualify, so no worries fellas, you can stay in your comfortable lil bubbles a little longer).... and will find out. Thursday will be a pivotal day in terms of the obstruction portion of this bidness but the larger issues are huge and ain't going away.
These latest revelations may also point to a potential bind that top intelligence officials could find themselves in. "What do you do if you're serving the president, and this is information he has to know," but it relates to a topic in which Trump's and his associates' ties are being examined as well, Carle asked. Law enforcement and investigative officials typically do not inform the subjects of investigations of their findings. "But in this instance, that is the chain of command," Carle said. Trump's fuzzy relationship with Russia also adds another wrinkle to fallout after the release of the NSA document, because it raises questions about whether nations with interests that are antithetical to US interests can be considered enemy nations when the president himself has not clearly outlined them as a threat. "As commander-in-chief of armed forces, the president identifies who constitutes a threat to the US," Finkelstein said. "If, however, there's a clear attack on the US of a military nature, and that includes a cyberattack like this one conducted by Russian military intelligence," then the president's definition of what constitutes an enemy nation may start to carry less weight, Finkelstein added.
And make no mistake guys. The real winner of all this is Vladimir Putin. He has absolutely punked us; no matter how this shakes out, he wins. Bigly.
Mostly because of people like you. His actual meddling had little to no affect on the outcome. But he couldn't of planned out his ultimate goal any better. Dissent, mistrust, accusations, and fighting against our current leadership on a grand scale by people convinced that he accomplished way more than he did, even after months of simultaneous investigations by multiple branches of government without a shred of proof so far offered up as evidence.
Way to be his puppet on a string while he sits back chuckling with glee. Good job.
And make no mistake guys. The real winner of all this is Vladimir Putin. He has absolutely punked us; no matter how this shakes out, he wins. Bigly.
The only people that have been played here are you and the lunatic left. Once the Russia narrative is proven false, what will you do then Hilary supporter?
And make no mistake guys. The real winner of all this is Vladimir Putin. He has absolutely punked us; no matter how this shakes out, he wins. Bigly.
Please explain how Putin is in a better position with Trump than Clinton? (Don't even try quid pro quo)
How are we at a disadvantage to Putin?
No, wait, don't tell me. No mater what you make up, I know the answer is nada.
The concept that _____________ (Russians, Chinese, NORKS, Indians, GB, France, Germany, take your pick) is on a daily cybermission to screw with us is a revelation to you? News flash: we are probing them. It's called National Security.
Putin doesn't give a rats ass who's running the US at this point. He's more concerned with his economy and his national security.
And make no mistake guys. The real winner of all this is Vladimir Putin. He has absolutely punked us; no matter how this shakes out, he wins. Bigly.
Thanks to you and the other lieberal punks practicing sedition so your agenda of hate and lies can't be reversed. There will be a reckoning on this. Decent people are beyond sick of the demoncrap filth, libel and lies.
Putin is desperate to get rid of the sanctions, it,s ruining the economy in Russia. Putin has something on Trump, plus he knew that he could not get Hillary to remove the sanctions. It will all come out in the end. Trump made a big mistake when he fired Comey. He should have owned up to whats going on a long time ago.
Putin is desperate to get rid of the sanctions, it,s ruining the economy in Russia. Putin has something on Trump, plus he knew that he could not get Hillary to remove the sanctions. It will all come out in the end. Trump made a big mistake when he fired Comey. He should have owned up to whats going on a long time ago.
Funny how you and Jello seem to post mere minutes apart...
Putin is desperate to get rid of the sanctions, it,s ruining the economy in Russia. Putin has something on Trump, plus he knew that he could not get Hillary to remove the sanctions. It will all come out in the end. Trump made a big mistake when he fired Comey. He should have owned up to whats going on a long time ago.
What does Putin have on Trump? Why should he not have fired Comey, who is a liar, and obviously hostile to the Trump administration?
Putin is desperate to get rid of the sanctions, it,s ruining the economy in Russia. Putin has something on Trump, plus he knew that he could not get Hillary to remove the sanctions. It will all come out in the end. Trump made a big mistake when he fired Comey. He should have owned up to whats going on a long time ago.
Funny how you and Jello seem to post mere minutes apart...
You seem to share the same offline time as well.
Maybe someone who knows how to trace an IP will do so... Jeff isn't smart enough to proxy.
Putin is desperate to get rid of the sanctions, it,s ruining the economy in Russia. Putin has something on Trump, plus he knew that he could not get Hillary to remove the sanctions. It will all come out in the end. Trump made a big mistake when he fired Comey. He should have owned up to whats going on a long time ago.
Russia's economy has been in the tank for many years now, ever since the bottom fell out of oil prices.
Putin is desperate to get rid of the sanctions, it,s ruining the economy in Russia. Putin has something on Trump, plus he knew that he could not get Hillary to remove the sanctions. It will all come out in the end. Trump made a big mistake when he fired Comey. He should have owned up to whats going on a long time ago.
You're delusional like the rest of the lieberals.
Hillary sold Putin 25% of the uranium the US has in the ground. That's a fact and treason.
Obama told Putin's #2 guy on an open mic, he'd be freer to work with him after the 2012 election. It's recorded. That's what collusion looks like.
The crap you post is ridiculous conjecture and lies. .
Comey won't say Trump obstructed justice in testimony: report By Brandon Carter - 06/06/17 02:54 PM EDT
Former FBI Director James Comey won’t testify that President Trump obstructed justice in the FBI’s investigation into alleged ties between the Trump campaign and Russia, according to a new report.
A source familiar with Comey’s thinking on the matter told ABC News that Comey will not say Trump interfered with the FBI’s investigation, but will dispute Trump’s assertion that the former FBI director told me three times that he is not under investigation.
Comey won't say Trump obstructed justice in testimony: report By Brandon Carter - 06/06/17 02:54 PM EDT
Former FBI Director James Comey won’t testify that President Trump obstructed justice in the FBI’s investigation into alleged ties between the Trump campaign and Russia, according to a new report.
A source familiar with Comey’s thinking on the matter told ABC News that Comey will not say Trump interfered with the FBI’s investigation, but will dispute Trump’s assertion that the former FBI director told me three times that he is not under investigation.
Howdy folks. Thought it best to let this one rest until after Comey's testimony.
I'm sure y'all have eviscerated Comey on other threads. Some of it is deserved. I've read the news on both sides post-testimony and have seen where the general battle-lines are drawn now.
My takeaways, since you ask, are thus:
*Comey, Mueller, et al are the ones playing 3D chess here. I think it's in the realm of possibility that Comey's firing was an elaborate setup- by Comey himself. Certainly, the way he prepped for the possibility, and then played it when it occurred, was brilliant; it has resulted in a) a special prosecutor who b) is not just anybody, but the un-impeachable (as opposed to Trump, haha) Mueller... who has carte blanch (and political cover) to investigate all this stuff in ways Comey never had... and it has also resulted in Comey being free to talk.
*Theres now a pure and simple credibility battle between the two men, Trump and Comey. Both have now called the other a flat-out liar. Since we know Trump IS a serial liar, advantage Comey... but more to the point, the "tapes" now loom as political land mines for Trump. All it takes is any of his administration, who would know about them, to be asked under oath if they exist. If so, they'll be subpoenaed as public records. And I'd bet the farm that they'll prove that Comey is telling the truth to the letter, and Trump is lying his orange ass off. So, Comey has now placed Trump in a position of great political (credibility) peril on that front; well... actually, Trump did it to himself because the [bleep] guy cannot just STFU. But Comey took that mistake and played it perfectly.
*Sessions is a dead man walking and will be the next domino to fall. Comey essentially assasinated his career. And what the heck is up with these guys not disclosing these meetings?! Jeez! If they were so innocent, just disclose them and move on. "It's not the crime, it's the coverup". Truer words...
* Mueller will be pursuing obstruction charges. They've got more "there" that Comey didn't disclose. Mark my words.
* Pence remains clean. Everyone on both sides is being studiously careful about that. Gosh golly I cannot imagine why.
* Trump's tax returns will turn out to be a Very Big Deal and will show numerous undisclosed Russian entanglements.
* That said, I still think it's at least 50/50 that Trump himself is NOT guilty of collusion with Russia. I think he's entangled in ways that would be suspicious (see: tax returns) and I think he's been incredibly naive about "Russia" at a bare minimum, but he might be innocent of actual, active collusion. But members of his campaign/family/ and/or administration are guilty as hell. Didn't take much reading between the lines to get that... reference Comey emotionally saying "but if Americans were HELPING them, that's a huge deal!" (Not an exact quote).
* the stage is now set; Comey and Mueller have rather brilliantly hemmed Trump in and he's in an almost literal minefield created mostly by his own big mouth. He's under enormous pressure. He responds poorly to pressure; eruptions will follow... anyway, they'll now be putting the squeeze on Kushner, Micheal "I'm not Matt" Flynn, and Manforte... someone will cave. Trump telling Flynn to "stay strong!" was brutally stupid. There's something "there".
* McCain is fading fast and won't be around much longer.
* Russia won the American 2016 presidential election.
I'll reiterate my willingness to bet a box of bullets that collusion by Trump and/or campaign associates will be demonstrated prior to the '18 midterms; or, that Trump does not serve his full term. Any takers, or are you guys just gonna call me names and puss out? I'm guessing the latter, because I think in your heart of hearts it's dawning on y'all that I'm right, you're wrong, and that is gonna suck bad enough without the added indignity of mailing me a box of bullets. But the offer stands.
just to step back to take a breath of fresh air, and to inhale new oxygen, we all know or should that russia is the source for a ton of titanium based product. titanium is important, and the west buys it from the ruskies, no?
anyways, i think trump is doing the best he can to right the ship. when a ship of fools set sail, who knows if it can righted?
the war criminal johnson certainly launched the boat in an unsturdy condition.
Jeff, as Ronald Reagan so aptly pointed out, just like all lieberals, the things you know, just aren't so. You truly need to come to grips with that, sooner than later.
Howdy folks. Thought it best to let this one rest until after Comey's testimony.
I'm sure y'all have eviscerated Comey on other threads. Some of it is deserved. I've read the news on both sides post-testimony and have seen where the general battle-lines are drawn now.
My takeaways, since you ask, are thus:
*Comey, Mueller, et al are the ones playing 3D chess here. I think it's in the realm of possibility that Comey's firing was an elaborate setup- by Comey himself. Certainly, the way he prepped for the possibility, and then played it when it occurred, was brilliant; it has resulted in a) a special prosecutor who b) is not just anybody, but the un-impeachable (as opposed to Trump, haha) Mueller... who has carte blanch (and political cover) to investigate all this stuff in ways Comey never had... and it has also resulted in Comey being free to talk.
*Theres now a pure and simple credibility battle between the two men, Trump and Comey. Both have now called the other a flat-out liar. Since we know Trump IS a serial liar, advantage Comey... but more to the point, the "tapes" now loom as political land mines for Trump. All it takes is any of his administration, who would know about them, to be asked under oath if they exist. If so, they'll be subpoenaed as public records. And I'd bet the farm that they'll prove that Comey is telling the truth to the letter, and Trump is lying his orange ass off. So, Comey has now placed Trump in a position of great political (credibility) peril on that front; well... actually, Trump did it to himself because the [bleep] guy cannot just STFU. But Comey took that mistake and played it perfectly.
*Sessions is a dead man walking and will be the next domino to fall. Comey essentially assasinated his career. And what the heck is up with these guys not disclosing these meetings?! Jeez! If they were so innocent, just disclose them and move on. "It's not the crime, it's the coverup". Truer words...
* Mueller will be pursuing obstruction charges. They've got more "there" that Comey didn't disclose. Mark my words.
* Pence remains clean. Everyone on both sides is being studiously careful about that. Gosh golly I cannot imagine why.
* Trump's tax returns will turn out to be a Very Big Deal and will show numerous undisclosed Russian entanglements.
* That said, I still think it's at least 50/50 that Trump himself is NOT guilty of collusion with Russia. I think he's entangled in ways that would be suspicious (see: tax returns) and I think he's been incredibly naive about "Russia" at a bare minimum, but he might be innocent of actual, active collusion. But members of his campaign/family/ and/or administration are guilty as hell. Didn't take much reading between the lines to get that... reference Comey emotionally saying "but if Americans were HELPING them, that's a huge deal!" (Not an exact quote).
* the stage is now set; Comey and Mueller have rather brilliantly hemmed Trump in and he's in an almost literal minefield created mostly by his own big mouth. He's under enormous pressure. He responds poorly to pressure; eruptions will follow... anyway, they'll now be putting the squeeze on Kushner, Micheal "I'm not Matt" Flynn, and Manforte... someone will cave. Trump telling Flynn to "stay strong!" was brutally stupid. There's something "there".
* McCain is fading fast and won't be around much longer.
* Russia won the American 2016 presidential election.
I'll reiterate my willingness to bet a box of bullets that collusion by Trump and/or campaign associates will be demonstrated prior to the '18 midterms; or, that Trump does not serve his full term. Any takers, or are you guys just gonna call me names and puss out? I'm guessing the latter, because I think in your heart of hearts it's dawning on y'all that I'm right, you're wrong, and that is gonna suck bad enough without the added indignity of mailing me a box of bullets. But the offer stands.
That would describe 8/10 people posting on this subject.....from both sides.
And who the fugg coined "3-d Chess" Lol!
I form my opinions based on evidence. In the absence of evidence proving guilt, you are left with innocence. To make attempts to spin any information to fit your pre-conceived opinion that Trump is guilty, is delusional, in my opinion. Your mileage may vary.
That would describe 8/10 people posting on this subject.....from both sides.
And who the fugg coined "3-d Chess" Lol!
I form my opinions based on evidence. In the absence of evidence proving guilt, you are left with innocence. To make attempts to spin any information to fit your pre-conceived opinion that Trump is guilty, is delusional, in my opinion. Your mileage may vary.
Former FBI Director James Comey Thursday refused to answer, in open session, whether he believes President Donald Trump colluded with Russia.
"That's a question I don't think I should answer in an open setting," Comey said in his testimony to the Senate Intelligence Committee. "When I left, we did not have an investigation focused on President Trump. But that's a question that will be answered by the investigation, I think."
The world will be a better place once jeffobama gets ass cancer. Hell, it's already in his brain and took his balls a long time ago. Or maybe when he fell off the ladder, his nuts got crushed and that's what gave him PTSD...
The world will be a better place once jeffobama gets ass cancer. Hell, it's already in his brain and took his balls a long time ago. Or maybe when he fell off the ladder, his nuts got crushed and that's what gave him PTSD...
Considering Jeff0's head is up his ass I'd say he's already there.
Former FBI Director James Comey Thursday refused to answer, in open session, whether he believes President Donald Trump colluded with Russia.
"That's a question I don't think I should answer in an open setting," Comey said in his testimony to the Senate Intelligence Committee. "When I left, we did not have an investigation focused on President Trump. But that's a question that will be answered by the investigation, I think."
Be that as it may, Comey directly said Trump was NOT under investigation. And there was no obstruction by Trump in his opinion.
That is the two main take aways from the testimony yesterday.
And there was no obstruction by Trump in his opinion.
Comey said he took Trumps statement that he hoped Comey could back off the investigation of Flynn as a directive.So by that, I believe he was trying to keep the door open for obstruction. I doubt anyone else did, except for the lieberals, but even then most of them likely knew better.
I don't believe the lieberals at the top believe their chit, but the rank and file buy the nonsense whole cloth. Pity there are so many lemmings in the world, politically.
The fact that Comey never asked for clarification of Trump's remarks concerning Flynn and never reported them as required, tells me it was and is a non-event.
The fact that Senators and others in DC.knew that Trump was not under investigation at the first of the year and still Shummer and others went ahead with their calls for the Supreme court nominee to be held up while they investigated the so called Trump/Russia thing.
You can tell by the mediocre attorney Trump has employed for his defense that the end is near. Marc Kasowitz. is in so far over his head it's embarrassing. His press conference yesterday was laughable. His written response to Comey's testimony was replete with typos and misstated facts. Even his corrected version released today was full of mistakes. Kasowitz is the attorney who got crushed in the Trump University settlement. He's a half-baked divorce attorney from NYC. His other personal attorney Michael Cohen is a punchline in NYC legal circles. He's a traffic ticket attorney.
Four prominent firms all declined to represent Trump. The reasons were "he doesn't pay and he doesn't listen". No news here.
I've stated for months that Trump is incapable of defending himself and it will all come down on his head when the Republicans stop coming to his defense. So far they are hanging in there but it's getting harder each day.
The Mueller appointment is the kiss of death for Trump.
Why do you think Trump asked all the other White House people to leave the room before he asked Comey to back off the investigation? Clinton did not sell the Russians 20% of our Uranium. It was done after 9 government agencies that approved it. You have to look at the total interactions between Trump and Comey. Comey does say Trump did not collude, with the Russians, but people in the White House were, Flynn, and others , the list keeps getting longer. The investigation keeps getting larger as Mueller goes on, it may now include Trump. Time will tell. If Trumps not worried why did he Lawyer up.
And there was no obstruction by Trump in his opinion.
Comey said he took Trumps statement that he hoped Comey could back off the investigation of Flynn as a directive.So by that, I believe he was trying to keep the door open for obstruction. I doubt anyone else did, except for the lieberals, but even then most of them likely knew better.
I don't believe the lieberals at the top believe their chit, but the rank and file buy the nonsense whole cloth. Pity there are so many lemmings in the world, politically.
The fact that Comey never asked for clarification of Trump's remarks concerning Flynn and never reported them as required, tells me it was and is a non-event.
So, since Zero said he didnt want to see Hiplery prosecuted i guess the jellos would say Zero obstructed justice.
OTOH, Alan Gershowitz again said Comey worked for Trump and Trump had the right to direct him to drop any investigation he wished him to as Zero did with respect to Hilkary.
Why do you think Trump asked all the other White House people to leave the room before he asked Comey to back off the investigation? Clinton did not sell the Russians 20% of our Uranium. It was done after 9 government agencies that approved it. You have to look at the total interactions between Trump and Comey. Comey does say Trump did not collude, with the Russians, but people in the White House were, Flynn, and others , the list keeps getting longer. The investigation keeps getting larger as Mueller goes on, it may now include Trump. Time will tell. If Trumps not worried why did he Lawyer up.
You dumb bastid. You been listening to fake news again. Comey asked for the meeting and asked that the room be cleared so he could try to draw Trump in and get the goods to use against Trump in order to keep the job he was derelict in.
If what he said was true all he had to do was tell Trump he would prefer Sessions was there to keep things on the up and up.
You can tell by the mediocre attorney Trump has employed for his defense that the end is near. Marc Kasowitz. is in so far over his head it's embarrassing. His press conference yesterday was laughable. His written response to Comey's testimony was replete with typos and misstated facts. Even his corrected version released today was full of mistakes. Kasowitz is the attorney who got crushed in the Trump University settlement. He's a half-baked divorce attorney from NYC. His other personal attorney Michael Cohen is a punchline in NYC legal circles. He's a traffic ticket attorney.
Four prominent firms all declined to represent Trump. The reasons were "he doesn't pay and he doesn't listen". No news here.
I've stated for months that Trump is incapable of defending himself and it will all come down on his head when the Republicans stop coming to his defense. So far they are hanging in there but it's getting harder each day.
The Mueller appointment is the kiss of death for Trump.
Speaking of mediocre attorneys, it's the inmate-renting, court case against the sheriff-losing, bet reneging, f*cktard D.A. from Modoc County, CA! Everyone say "Hi!" to Jordan Funk formerly known here as RobJordan before he lost his bet with Fubarski. C'mon down to Funkytown for some more wildly incorrect political predictions! We're going to get Funky!
First, I want to make clear that I don't personally support an "obstruction of justice" witch hunt here.... at least not as it's currently being reported. I think it's credible that Trump, as a political noob, simply didn't/doesn't really understand the traditional boundaries between say POTUS and the FBI. So my take is this: if he himself is proven to have colluded, string him up for treason and I've got the perfect oak tree. But I am NOT a foaming-at-the-mouth hater who wants him taken down "however". From what we have been allowed to know SO FAR, I don't think impeachment over obstruction would be a fair or proper course. It may HAPPEN, particularly after the D's take back the House in '18, but I'm not advocating it, again just going off what we've been told.
Second is that some here seemed downright euphoric after Comey's testimony. That's nuts. Again, you are massively failing to read between the lines as well as realizing how these sorts of things play out and in what sort of time frame. Read this.
This whole affair is both deep and wide, and is, legally speaking, as real as it gets. This is NOT some Deep-State Swamp People conspiracy. It's an investigation based on evidence. Notice how Repub's didn't come out crowing after the private session with Comey? He's in big trouble. People close to him are [bleep]. Given his brand of "loyalty"- which only goes one way (towards him), I expect there will be some guys thrown under some buses. Manaforte, Flynn, and that dude who went to Seychelles come to mind.
First, I want to make clear that I don't personally support an "obstruction of justice" witch hunt here.... at least not as it's currently being reported. I think it's credible that Trump, as a political noob, simply didn't/doesn't really understand the traditional boundaries between say POTUS and the FBI. So my take is this: if he himself is proven to have colluded, string him up for treason and I've got the perfect oak tree. But I am NOT a foaming-at-the-mouth hater who wants him taken down "however". From what we have been allowed to know SO FAR, I don't think impeachment over obstruction would be a fair or proper course. It may HAPPEN, particularly after the D's take back the House in '18, but I'm not advocating it, again just going off what we've been told.
Second is that some here seemed downright euphoric after Comey's testimony. That's nuts. Again, you are massively failing to read between the lines as well as realizing how these sorts of things play out and in what sort of time frame. Read this.
This whole affair is both deep and wide, and is, legally speaking, as real as it gets. This is NOT some Deep-State Swamp People conspiracy. It's an investigation based on evidence. Notice how Repub's didn't come out crowing after the private session with Comey? He's in big trouble. People close to him are [bleep]. Given his brand of "loyalty"- which only goes one way (towards him), I expect there will be some guys thrown under some buses. Manaforte, Flynn, and that dude who went to Seychelles come to mind.
You are ONLY "reading between the lines", disregarding the bulk of (the lack of) evidence.
First, I want to make clear that I don't personally support an "obstruction of justice" witch hunt here.... at least not as it's currently being reported. I think it's credible that Trump, as a political noob, simply didn't/doesn't really understand the traditional boundaries between say POTUS and the FBI. So my take is this: if he himself is proven to have colluded, string him up for treason and I've got the perfect oak tree. But I am NOT a foaming-at-the-mouth hater who wants him taken down "however". From what we have been allowed to know SO FAR, I don't think impeachment over obstruction would be a fair or proper course. It may HAPPEN, particularly after the D's take back the House in '18, but I'm not advocating it, again just going off what we've been told.
Second is that some here seemed downright euphoric after Comey's testimony. That's nuts. Again, you are massively failing to read between the lines as well as realizing how these sorts of things play out and in what sort of time frame. Read this.
This whole affair is both deep and wide, and is, legally speaking, as real as it gets. This is NOT some Deep-State Swamp People conspiracy. It's an investigation based on evidence. Notice how Repub's didn't come out crowing after the private session with Comey? He's in big trouble. People close to him are [bleep]. Given his brand of "loyalty"- which only goes one way (towards him), I expect there will be some guys thrown under some buses. Manaforte, Flynn, and that dude who went to Seychelles come to mind.
You are ONLY "reading between the lines", disregarding the bulk of (the lack of) evidence.
First, I want to make clear that I don't personally support an "obstruction of justice" witch hunt here.... at least not as it's currently being reported. I think it's credible that Trump, as a political noob, simply didn't/doesn't really understand the traditional boundaries between say POTUS and the FBI. So my take is this: if he himself is proven to have colluded, string him up for treason and I've got the perfect oak tree. But I am NOT a foaming-at-the-mouth hater who wants him taken down "however". From what we have been allowed to know SO FAR, I don't think impeachment over obstruction would be a fair or proper course. It may HAPPEN, particularly after the D's take back the House in '18, but I'm not advocating it, again just going off what we've been told.
Second is that some here seemed downright euphoric after Comey's testimony. That's nuts. Again, you are massively failing to read between the lines as well as realizing how these sorts of things play out and in what sort of time frame. Read this.
This whole affair is both deep and wide, and is, legally speaking, as real as it gets. This is NOT some Deep-State Swamp People conspiracy. It's an investigation based on evidence. Notice how Repub's didn't come out crowing after the private session with Comey? He's in big trouble. People close to him are [bleep]. Given his brand of "loyalty"- which only goes one way (towards him), I expect there will be some guys thrown under some buses. Manaforte, Flynn, and that dude who went to Seychelles come to mind.
You are ONLY "reading between the lines", disregarding the bulk of (the lack of) evidence.
So........is the "schitt hitting the fan" still imminent? You've been going on and on for months and............ nothing!
I think you mentioned that Thursday being a big day..........and, nothing!
When it looks like a duck, sounds like a duck and walks like a duck and you still think its something else, you should at least be able to learn your brain is fried.
Former FBI Director James Comey Thursday refused to answer, in open session, whether he believes President Donald Trump colluded with Russia.
"That's a question I don't think I should answer in an open setting," Comey said in his testimony to the Senate Intelligence Committee. "When I left, we did not have an investigation focused on President Trump. But that's a question that will be answered by the investigation, I think."
AND YOU GOBBLED IT UP.
Now, tell us why the stock market broke into new highs when it learned of the stupidity of your types lies?
Comey never asked for any meetings with Trump. The first time he met Trump he got the feeling their was something going on with Trump. That's why he started to document every conversation he had with Trump. He met Trump 3 times and Trump called him six times. Even that concerned Comey because he had only talked to Obama twice while he was president. Their is supposed to be a firewall between the President and the head of the FBI. Charges for people in the White House will be decided by Mueller not Comey.
Comey never asked for any meetings with Trump. The first time he met Trump he got the feeling their was something going on with Trump. That's why he started to document every conversation he had with Trump. He met Trump 3 times and Trump called him six times. Even that concerned Comey because he had only talked to Obama twice while he was president. Their is supposed to be a firewall between the President and the head of the FBI. Charges for people in the White House will be decided by Mueller not Comey.
What a load . Absolutely nothing. Comey is hostile to Trump, and friendly to Clinton. Of COURSE he was,uncomfortable.
I'm confident there will be collusion shown by campaign members, which is why my offer to bet ANYONE (other than bigfish) still stands.. Clearly they've got something there. It may even make it up to Trump via Kushner. We'll see.
The bigger question is "then what?!" So let's say tomorrow Mueller shows that (say) Manaforte was feeding Russia data on who to target in the swing states with the fake news- which we now know they did, meaning they did target specific groups- then what? Unless Trump was proved to be involved, he's not going down for it, nor should he. Throwing Manaforte in jail doesn't undo an ill-gotten election. Really, what may end up mattering the most is how folks react to it in '18. If Republicans give any HINT of not being outraged... they'll pay at the ballot box. They will anyway if Trump is still in office because the voters will want to counterbalance him, plus, it ain't like the Repub majority is showing us much.
Russia is, of course, the big winner; they've completely spun our heads around as a nation and have us fighting with each and navel-gazing... The only other "winning" so far is gun owners, I suppose, since we at least didn't end up with Horrible Hillary. I'll take the SCOTUS appointment as THE ONLY good thing to come out of this Trump bidness so far. It's not a small thing to win.
I'm confident there will be collusion shown by campaign members, which is why my offer to bet ANYONE (other than bigfish) still stands.. Clearly they've got something there. It may even make it up to Trump via Kushner. We'll see.
You're a two-time bet loser who reneged (and a loser in general). Is anyone surprised? No. Did others including me call that outcome? Yes.
Funny, that.
You and your little butt buddy GunTruck wanna tell us when Trump is going to be impeached? Cause I'll make a prediction: When Trump leaves office after 8 years the left will claim they "impeached" him.
I'm confident there will be collusion shown by campaign members, which is why my offer to bet ANYONE (other than bigfish) still stands.. Clearly they've got something there. It may even make it up to Trump via Kushner. We'll see.
The bigger question is "then what?!" So let's say tomorrow Mueller shows that (say) Manaforte was feeding Russia data on who to target in the swing states with the fake news- which we now know they did, meaning they did target specific groups- then what? Unless Trump was proved to be involved, he's not going down for it, nor should he. Throwing Manaforte in jail doesn't undo an ill-gotten election. Really, what may end up mattering the most is how folks react to it in '18. If Republicans give any HINT of not being outraged... they'll pay at the ballot box. They will anyway if Trump is still in office because the voters will want to counterbalance him, plus, it ain't like the Repub majority is showing us much.
Russia is, of course, the big winner; they've completely spun our heads around as a nation and have us fighting with each and navel-gazing... The only other "winning" so far is gun owners, I suppose, since we at least didn't end up with Horrible Hillary. I'll take the SCOTUS appointment as THE ONLY good thing to come out of this Trump bidness so far. It's not a small thing to win.
Do you have any examples of this "fake news"? Which (I'm assuming is online) sites should I be looking at? I'm actually trying to figure out what websites are run by the Russians or willingly run news releases from them. So help me out here would you?
I have no doubt Comeys bud, Mueller will find some Trump associate who drinks white russians or drinks Vodka. POS turds like Jell0 and fake news will call that collusion.
Jell0, you're too gutless to admit there were many meetings between ruskies and hillary that stank to high heaven. Its because you are a gutless apologist for the msm and deep state due to your desire to see that deep state control the USA rather than the law and constitution.
Comey investigated Hillary for months. He never questioned her himself. She was not under oath when she was questioned. Her answers were not recorded. Jeff, youre a disengenuous pos. Thats why you disgust us. Not because you are a dimocrap, like Alan Ginsburg. You disgust us because you are a low life piece of rat shat.
Russia doesn't matter. The media doesn't matter. The fact that people are stupid enough to care about it matters a lot.
The DNC and MSM are in it to destroy Trump and this country for the one world order. Jell0 follows because he is stupid. He believes the narrative. Hes like the dumb suckers of the one percenters, protesting the moneyed and powerful elite. They cant see that Hillary Is the epitome of all they despise. She just talks about how she wants to help children and to help the poor and save the world. GunTruck isnt stupid. Hes a pure communist traitor in it to feed the dumbasses like Jell0 the idea of believing in Utopia as far as im concerned.
Funny how Comey leaked everything excet that Trump was not under investigation. Jello thinks its fine the head fbi guy had no intention of investigating illegal leaks from the WH that damaged Trump or the US.
I have no doubt Comeys bud, Mueller will find some Trump associate who drinks white russians or drinks Vodka. POS turds like Jell0 and fake news will call that collusion.
Here's what's going to happen to Mueller- investigation will be shut down in a couple weeks.
Jeff0 can't even name the last time he made a correct political prediction (and it isn't because of the memory loss from smoking the reefer).
Are you talking about Comeys paper being leaked. Those were his personnel notes, not the governments. When he gave them to the Professor he no longer worked for the government. Muellers investigation is not going to shut down in a couple of weeks. This is going to go on for the rest of the year at least.
Comey did have a classified first meeting with Trump, happens all the time. Some of their phone calls that Trump made to Comey were also classified. So what.
Yikes. He was a private citizen in possession of copies of private confidential govt conversations according to his testament and leaked them. You are surly just playing stoopit, right?
Are you talking about Comeys paper being leaked. Those were his personnel notes, not the governments. When he gave them to the Professor he no longer worked for the government. Muellers investigation is not going to shut down in a couple of weeks. This is going to go on for the rest of the year at least.
Are you talking about Comeys paper being leaked. Those were his personnel notes, not the governments. When he gave them to the Professor he no longer worked for the government. Muellers investigation is not going to shut down in a couple of weeks. This is going to go on for the rest of the year at least.
Professor Johnathan Turley reported Comey had to sign a nondisclosure agreement.
And do you really think a conversation regarding official business between the FBI director and the president is Comey's to do with as he pleases?
I'm confident there will be collusion shown by campaign members, which is why my offer to bet ANYONE (other than bigfish) still stands.. Clearly they've got something there. It may even make it up to Trump via Kushner. We'll see.
The bigger question is "then what?!" So let's say tomorrow Mueller shows that (say) Manaforte was feeding Russia data on who to target in the swing states with the fake news- which we now know they did, meaning they did target specific groups- then what? Unless Trump was proved to be involved, he's not going down for it, nor should he. Throwing Manaforte in jail doesn't undo an ill-gotten election. Really, what may end up mattering the most is how folks react to it in '18. If Republicans give any HINT of not being outraged... they'll pay at the ballot box. They will anyway if Trump is still in office because the voters will want to counterbalance him, plus, it ain't like the Repub majority is showing us much.
Russia is, of course, the big winner; they've completely spun our heads around as a nation and have us fighting with each and navel-gazing... The only other "winning" so far is gun owners, I suppose, since we at least didn't end up with Horrible Hillary. I'll take the SCOTUS appointment as THE ONLY good thing to come out of this Trump bidness so far. It's not a small thing to win.
Highlighted the 'important' part...and I'm you huckleberry. So, time to draw down. What is YOUR bet.
Hey, I've been wrong before. We know if there was any "there" there, we'd have heard by now. I don't need to go into reasons to back up the previous sentence. We'd have heard something officially or more likely it would have leaked and not anonymous sources Jeff0 is so beholden to. What is those sources are Russians?
I say Mueller will be shut down because Mueller is a Comey lackey and by extension a Clinton lackey (remember when Comey let the Clintons off 4 times?). At some point Mueller will go all in and fabricate something to save his reputation ala Comey and Trump's alleged directive to see/find an end to the Flynn "matter" (see what I did there, Jeff0?).
Trump will find a way to end the Mueller "matter." Maybe something along the lines of Trump asking for a status report (exec priv) from Mueller since Trump is not under investigation and has never been. I can't say for sure. But Trump knows better than to let the whole thing hand over his head like a "cloud" (I'm frigging killing it right now). It's going to end soon.
And then all the chitlibs, MSM and Jeff0 will have is impotent congressional committees to investigate since the intelligence community will have brought forth zero evidence. Again, the media, chitlibs and Jeff0 will continue to cry about Russia and demand impeachment. They're going to get spanked in the 2018 midterms unless they find a cohesive, uniting message; that message needs to be something other than "[bleep] Trump!" So far they show no indication of looking into their mistakes. I'd love to make tons of $$ as a democratic consultant behind the scenes helping them fix their problems but they have a very small minority telling the truth among their ranks already but that minority is being ignored for social justice and "[bleep] Trump!" Now after the 2018 midterm spanking we may see a few empowered GOPe turds board the Trump train for the big 2020 win and by that I mean 2019 and 2020 will be productive legislatively although maybe not on big ticket items but we'll see minor improvements that will shine a positive light on Trump's first term.
Are you talking about Comeys paper being leaked. Those were his personnel notes, not the governments. When he gave them to the Professor he no longer worked for the government. Muellers investigation is not going to shut down in a couple of weeks. This is going to go on for the rest of the year at least.
I'm confident there will be collusion shown by campaign members, which is why my offer to bet ANYONE (other than bigfish) still stands.. Clearly they've got something there. It may even make it up to Trump via Kushner. We'll see.
The bigger question is "then what?!" So let's say tomorrow Mueller shows that (say) Manaforte was feeding Russia data on who to target in the swing states with the fake news- which we now know they did, meaning they did target specific groups- then what? Unless Trump was proved to be involved, he's not going down for it, nor should he. Throwing Manaforte in jail doesn't undo an ill-gotten election. Really, what may end up mattering the most is how folks react to it in '18. If Republicans give any HINT of not being outraged... they'll pay at the ballot box. They will anyway if Trump is still in office because the voters will want to counterbalance him, plus, it ain't like the Repub majority is showing us much.
Russia is, of course, the big winner; they've completely spun our heads around as a nation and have us fighting with each and navel-gazing... The only other "winning" so far is gun owners, I suppose, since we at least didn't end up with Horrible Hillary. I'll take the SCOTUS appointment as THE ONLY good thing to come out of this Trump bidness so far. It's not a small thing to win.
Highlighted the 'important' part...and I'm you huckleberry. So, time to draw down. What is YOUR bet.
Jeff0 is too much of a pussy to bet me because I specified EXACT terms. Notice his little renege on Jorge was over terms about bullets vs. ammunition/cartridges? Then when Jorge offered bullets Jeff0 still would not pay up? My terms were clear (no dig at Jorge) and Jeff won't take his giant black dilldo and go home if he loses- he's determined to find another guy to play swords with here. We all know Jeff0 is a pussy and will never hold up his end of a bet. Ever. Plus why would you want Jeff0 to know your address? At least use a PO box but he'll never pay up anyways. Doubt he'll ever accept your bet either.
Yes, like jello they let their hate for Trump rule their thinking rather than thinking and following the logic they come up with. They cant face reality and have to cling to the ghosts floating in their mind.
My concern is Mueller is a proven muzzy sympathizer and i cant see how he was allowed to become the investigator.
Are you talking about Comeys paper being leaked. Those were his personnel notes, not the governments. When he gave them to the Professor he no longer worked for the government. Muellers investigation is not going to shut down in a couple of weeks. This is going to go on for the rest of the year at least.
Professor Johnathan Turley reported Comey had to sign a nondisclosure agreement.
And do you really think a conversation regarding official business between the FBI director and the president is Comey's to do with as he pleases?
You are a special kind of stupid.
This^^^^. Its unreal. That sucker takes his position and talks out his ass to support his stance without doing more than hoping he sounds smart enough to convince us without knowing or wanting to know the facts.
I'm confident there will be collusion shown by campaign members, which is why my offer to bet ANYONE (other than bigfish) still stands.. Clearly they've got something there. It may even make it up to Trump via Kushner. We'll see.
The bigger question is "then what?!" So let's say tomorrow Mueller shows that (say) Manaforte was feeding Russia data on who to target in the swing states with the fake news- which we now know they did, meaning they did target specific groups- then what? Unless Trump was proved to be involved, he's not going down for it, nor should he. Throwing Manaforte in jail doesn't undo an ill-gotten election. Really, what may end up mattering the most is how folks react to it in '18. If Republicans give any HINT of not being outraged... they'll pay at the ballot box. They will anyway if Trump is still in office because the voters will want to counterbalance him, plus, it ain't like the Repub majority is showing us much.
Russia is, of course, the big winner; they've completely spun our heads around as a nation and have us fighting with each and navel-gazing... The only other "winning" so far is gun owners, I suppose, since we at least didn't end up with Horrible Hillary. I'll take the SCOTUS appointment as THE ONLY good thing to come out of this Trump bidness so far. It's not a small thing to win.
Highlighted the 'important' part...and I'm you huckleberry. So, time to draw down. What is YOUR bet.
Jeff0 is too much of a pussy to bet me because I specified EXACT terms. Notice his little renege on Jorge was over terms about bullets vs. ammunition/cartridges? Then when Jorge offered bullets Jeff0 still would not pay up? My terms were clear (no dig at Jorge) and Jeff won't take his giant black dilldo and go home if he loses- he's determined to find another guy to play swords with here. We all know Jeff0 is a pussy and will never hold up his end of a bet. Ever. Plus why would you want Jeff0 to know your address? At least use a PO box but he'll never pay up anyways. Doubt he'll ever accept your bet either.
If you go back far enough I was actually among the first (I think) to call Jeffy to a bet. Made several offers..money,honor, even the gentleman's bet of a $1.00 and move on. None were accepted as the terms were simple and even Jeffrey knew (trolling) that the odds were negatory.
All that is prelude to this, aside, Jeff you have Made The Offer. I AM NOT BIG FISH and I WANT MY WAGER. WHAT BE IT?
Yikes. He was a private citizen in possession of copies of private confidential govt conversations according to his testament and leaked them. You are surly just playing stoopit, right?
I'm confident there will be collusion shown by campaign members, which is why my offer to bet ANYONE (other than bigfish) still stands.. Clearly they've got something there. It may even make it up to Trump via Kushner. We'll see.
The bigger question is "then what?!" So let's say tomorrow Mueller shows that (say) Manaforte was feeding Russia data on who to target in the swing states with the fake news- which we now know they did, meaning they did target specific groups- then what? Unless Trump was proved to be involved, he's not going down for it, nor should he. Throwing Manaforte in jail doesn't undo an ill-gotten election. Really, what may end up mattering the most is how folks react to it in '18. If Republicans give any HINT of not being outraged... they'll pay at the ballot box. They will anyway if Trump is still in office because the voters will want to counterbalance him, plus, it ain't like the Repub majority is showing us much.
Russia is, of course, the big winner; they've completely spun our heads around as a nation and have us fighting with each and navel-gazing... The only other "winning" so far is gun owners, I suppose, since we at least didn't end up with Horrible Hillary. I'll take the SCOTUS appointment as THE ONLY good thing to come out of this Trump bidness so far. It's not a small thing to win.
Highlighted the 'important' part...and I'm you huckleberry. So, time to draw down. What is YOUR bet.
Jeff0 is too much of a pussy to bet me because I specified EXACT terms. Notice his little renege on Jorge was over terms about bullets vs. ammunition/cartridges? Then when Jorge offered bullets Jeff0 still would not pay up? My terms were clear (no dig at Jorge) and Jeff won't take his giant black dilldo and go home if he loses- he's determined to find another guy to play swords with here. We all know Jeff0 is a pussy and will never hold up his end of a bet. Ever. Plus why would you want Jeff0 to know your address? At least use a PO box but he'll never pay up anyways. Doubt he'll ever accept your bet either.
If you go back far enough I was actually among the first (I think) to call Jeffy to a bet. Made several offers..money,honor, even the gentleman's bet of a $1.00 and move on. None were accepted as the terms were simple and even Jeffrey knew (trolling) that the odds were negatory.
All that is prelude to this, aside, Jeff you have Made The Offer. I AM NOT BIG FISH and I WANT MY WAGER. WHAT BE IT?
Eh, I don't care who was first. Maybe I was first in this thread? Who cares, in the end. I live inside J0's head rent free. Big takeaway is J0 is a pussy. I'd say he's a democrat, liar, snowflake, etc. etc. etc. until the cows come home. I get tired of repeating myself. He'll never uphold up his end of a bet and use ANY excuse not to. End of story.
That cabinet meeting... oy... that is one egotistical dude right there. Who would even WANT that?!
It'll be interesting to hear what Sessions has to say today. I think he'll be combative, but ultimately when it's boiled down to it's essence, he's an honorable man who's not going to die on Trump Hill... but we shall see.
The new, sudden vitriol arising from the Right against Mueller is surprising and dismaying to me. This whole affair really is just going to "go there", isn't it?.... it's gonna go full-retard in terms of partisan conspiracy theories...... Gingrich is winding up the tin soldiers, and yes they will march... great. Just great. Anyway, surely Trump's people understand what a mistake firing Mueller would be... Congress would just re-appoint him outside of his purvey... but then again this is Trump we are talking about.
I think his legal team is looking at the situation... looking at who's across the table... looking at the evidence they know, but we do not (yet)... and they are pissing their pants. As is The Don. But I could be wrong. Maybe there's nothing there at all, and it's all just a Deep State conspiracy. Attack of the Swamp People!! Gaaaa!! Run for you lives!
Bigfish... come back... it was just a joke, bro....
Go play somewhere else, little girl. Your trolling doesn't do any good here.
You are just in the same role that Juan Williams is in on Fox. They have a token liberal to make the liberal talking points so that the sanity of the conservatives can be made clear to the audience, and the stupidity of the left exposed...
That's all you are. Another stupid liberal showing everyone why the name sticks.
Well... it appears that Mueller will be going all-in on obstruction.
I have VERY mixed feelings on that. Without going too deeply into it, because I got work to do, the summary would be that they (the intel folks) had DAMN well better have some solid evidence on collusion, or else this starts to reek of exactly what many here have feared: a deep state witch hunt.
As I've said, I think they do have this evidence. I believe that there was collusion by someone in the campaign. If that is true- and I said "if", then obstruction charges are absolutely warranted because clearly, The Don fired Comey over Russia, and it appears the noob sumbitch might've also tried the Nixonian ploy to recruit other agency heads into his efforts to stymie the FBI probe. Oops. Anyway, IF it's a legit, evidence-based investigation, then it seems clear that he tried (and failed rather miserably) to obstruct it.
But if it isn't so clear as that; if the intel folks only have vague notions or suspicions, then they stretched this whole thing out way too long, leaked way too much innuendo and taint, and in fact basically entrapped a naive and innocent man.
So in a sense we are right back where we started. If the Trump campaign is guilty, then this is all very much justified and patriotic and correct. If the Trump campaign is innocent, then this is a Deep State takedown fully deserving of 2A remedy.
Guessin' that FOX is now fake news! fake news! but this is a pretty cogent breakdown on why Trump better not listen to the nutjobs telling him to fire Mueller:
So when it turns out I'm RIGHT, if it does, Springcove, what'll that make you?
Hadn't heard this dude's name, Parscale, until today but methinks we'll be hearing more of it. The precision with which the Russians were able to target their bots at likely voters in crucial swing districts is one of the suspicious things that points to collusion... and he da man in Trump's campaign who was at the heart of Trump's data operation.
<rubbing hands together> this is gonna get GOOD....
So when it turns out I'm RIGHT, if it does, Springcove, what'll that make you?
Hadn't heard this dude's name, Parscale, until today but methinks we'll be hearing more of it. The precision with which the Russians were able to target their bots at likely voters in crucial swing districts is one of the suspicious things that points to collusion... and he da man in Trump's campaign who was at the heart of Trump's data operation.
<rubbing hands together> this is gonna get GOOD....
Guessin' that FOX is now fake news! fake news! but this is a pretty cogent breakdown on why Trump better not listen to the nutjobs telling him to fire Mueller:
Jello, why don't you do what you do best which is jerking off with both hands in a dark closet and not losing a stroke when you switch hands...
You are pathetic with your stupid look-at-MY IGNORANCE
Hes pathetic with his support of gun control, open borders, muzzy importation, destruction of the 2 A, support of commies in govt, support of deep state tyranny, .....and all to be sweet and PC.
You're gonna wait a long time for him to pay up. Local hunting forum up here in WA has someone like Jeff. They lost a bet on the election wagering 2x500 round boxes of .22 ammo and have yet to pay up. They have only posted they're between jobs and can't pay and have not posted since. Our liberals on here just renege and keep posting no matter what the bet was, even if it was to leave the forum for good.
Well... it appears that Mueller will be going all-in on obstruction.
:
How can you obstruct when:
1.) you run the executive branch and can order employees not to investigate BY LAW
2.) Have full and absolute pardon power
You have now convinced me you are 100% full of [bleep].
One redeeming value is that you will make my slow started thread make 1000 posts with your absurdity.
Ley those 2 points sink in. TRUMP CAN PARDON ANYONE FOR ANYTHING!!!
You have just been exposed (yet again) as a swallow minded, shallow thinking partisan troll
Wait, I'm not done with your sorry ass just yet. There reason that Mueller is going ALL in on obstruction is because he has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING LEFT IN HIS HAND TO PLAY. Comey disarmed him with his own testimony.
You have just been exposed (yet again) as a swallow minded, shallow thinking partisan troll
Wait, I'm not done with your sorry ass just yet. There reason that Mueller is going ALL in on obstruction is because he has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING LEFT IN HIS HAND TO PLAY. Comey disarmed him with his own testimony.
Oh oh oh!! I wanna play too.
If I'm president of the USA and my deputy AGUSA at the DOJ says I should fire the FBI director, and I fire the FBI director, is it a conflict of interest if the AGUSA then launches an investigation and appoints a special counsel to investigate me for obstruction of justice for firing the the guy the AGUSA told me to fire??
I think I need RJ/MeatGazer to explain this to me... in legal terms.
I learned something with this thread.........Science has once again been proven wrong, It has always been taught that to have respiratory function there must be brain activity and yet Jeff Obama lives and breathes.
If is right dumbass!!! How many times have you been right so far???
Uh.... all of them, as it pertains to this stuff....? Look back at the beginning of the thread. Who was wrong? Who was right? Hint. Plus, while you can't admit it, you guys know at this point that I'm gonna be right about the whole shebang-- there was collusion-- and that's why your heads are startin' to asplode. Sorry 'bout dat. I can't help being right; it's just my basic nature.
From the bastion of fake news! known as Fox:
"Adam Schiff, the top Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee, said Sunday he thinks that there is evidence of collusion and obstruction in the panel's Russia investigation. "I think there is evidence" of collusion, Schiff told ABC's "This Week." "I can't go into the particulars of our closed investigation. But I also think there is also evidence of obstruction.""
I'll reiterate that speaking strictly for myself, I'm inclined to give Mr. Trump the benefit of the doubt on the obstruction stuff. Put another way, they will have to really demonstrate that one conclusively. I think the "Trump is a politically naive guy who cannot STFU to save his LIFE" defense actually has some merit. But we shall see.
If is right dumbass!!! How many times have you been right so far???
Uh.... all of them, as it pertains to this stuff....? Look back at the beginning of the thread. Who was wrong? Who was right? Hint. Plus, while you can't admit it, you guys know at this point that I'm gonna be right about the whole shebang-- there was collusion-- and that's why your heads are startin' to asplode. Sorry 'bout dat. I can't help being right; it's just my basic nature.
From the bastion of fake news! known as Fox:
"Adam Schiff, the top Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee, said Sunday he thinks that there is evidence of collusion and obstruction in the panel's Russia investigation. "I think there is evidence" of collusion, Schiff told ABC's "This Week." "I can't go into the particulars of our closed investigation. But I also think there is also evidence of obstruction.""
I'll reiterate that speaking strictly for myself, I'm inclined to give Mr. Trump the benefit of the doubt on the obstruction stuff. Put another way, they will have to really demonstrate that one conclusively. I think the "Trump is a politically naive guy who cannot STFU to save his LIFE" defense actually has some merit. But we shall see.
Jello, fess up. You've been in a dark closet again, right?
If is right dumbass!!! How many times have you been right so far???
Uh.... all of them, as it pertains to this stuff....? Look back at the beginning of the thread. Who was wrong? Who was right? Hint. Plus, while you can't admit it, you guys know at this point that I'm gonna be right about the whole shebang-- there was collusion-- and that's why your heads are startin' to asplode. Sorry 'bout dat. I can't help being right; it's just my basic nature.
From the bastion of fake news! known as Fox:
"Adam Schiff, the top Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee, said Sunday he thinks that there is evidence of collusion and obstruction in the panel's Russia investigation. "I think there is evidence" of collusion, Schiff told ABC's "This Week." "I can't go into the particulars of our closed investigation. But I also think there is also evidence of obstruction.""
I'll reiterate that speaking strictly for myself, I'm inclined to give Mr. Trump the benefit of the doubt on the obstruction stuff. Put another way, they will have to really demonstrate that one conclusively. I think the "Trump is a politically naive guy who cannot STFU to save his LIFE" defense actually has some merit. But we shall see.
Of course he said that stupid, he's a GD Democrap for crying out loud. You haven't been right in years and this thread only proves your stupidity.
For those of you playing dumb still mystified as to how The Don or members of the Trump campaign could've colluded to help Russia affect the election with targeted disinformation- and it is a pure, established, known fact that that part occurred- read this. Then stop [bleep] playing dumb.
That'll be too much for Mark to comply with 'cause he ain't playing!
For those of you playing dumb still mystified as to how The Don or members of the Trump campaign could've colluded to help Russia affect the election with targeted disinformation- and it is a pure, established, known fact that that part occurred- read this. Then stop [bleep] playing dumb.
That'll be too much for Mark to comply with 'cause he ain't playing!
For those of you playing dumb still mystified as to how The Don or members of the Trump campaign could've colluded to help Russia affect the election with targeted disinformation- and it is a pure, established, known fact that that part occurred- read this. Then stop [bleep] playing dumb.
That'll be too much for Mark to comply with 'cause he ain't playing!
How's that AT&T plan working for you in your semi-rural area? Verizon has better coverage. I can play that game all day and it doesn't end well for anyone.
For those of you playing dumb still mystified as to how The Don or members of the Trump campaign could've colluded to help Russia affect the election with targeted disinformation- and it is a pure, established, known fact that that part occurred- read this. Then stop [bleep] playing dumb.
That'll be too much for Mark to comply with 'cause he ain't playing!
Well... it appears that Mueller will be going all-in on obstruction.
:
How can you obstruct when:
1.) you run the executive branch and can order employees not to investigate BY LAW
2.) Have full and absolute pardon power
You have now convinced me you are 100% full of [bleep].
One redeeming value is that you will make my slow started thread make 1000 posts with your absurdity.
Ley those 2 points sink in. TRUMP CAN PARDON ANYONE FOR ANYTHING!!!
You have just been exposed (yet again) as a swallow minded, shallow thinking partisan troll
Swallow-minded. LOVE IT!!
He's not very fair either. Trump did not collude with Ruskies and its very probable Clinton did. Why else would they pay Bill 2x his normal speaking fee. Jell0 has no qualms about that.
Trump did not tell Comey to drop the case, Comey did not drop it, Comey said under oath he was not instructed to drop it, but he was told to change the words on Hillarys illegal acts, which he did, and was told Lynch would obstruct justice regardless what they found. Comey thus obstructed the Hilkary investigation in that there was no recorded interviews and he did not question her as she was free due to an obstructed investigation, by Comey and Lynch.
All of that means nothing to libs like Jell0. Either insanity has him obsessed only in Trump, or a traitorous, low life, disingenuous two-faced personality is acceptable to him.
Jell0, the problem isnt that you are a gutless, commie sympathizing liberal and we are conservative patriotic, to the constitution, conservatives. The problem isnt that you are a dimocrap and we are republicans.
The problem is that you are two-faced, disingenuous and not a man of your word or a man of honor or a man of integrity, which means you are not what we consider to be a man.
Alan Ginsberg is a liberal. Theres a reason he'd be welcome here. You are like a little kid playing "gotcha" and the gotchas are not "gotchas".
The problem is that there are men here. Men of honor, honesty and integrity. Men you have essentially no psychological or honorable resemblance to, other than possibly in a physical sense. You arent one of us. Thats the problem. You arent a man.
Youre living in a lala dream land. You dont care if Trump colluded or not. You want him out by hook or crookedness. You cant let facts deny you. Your hero the zero said there was no way the Ruskies hacked the election.
Comey said they didnt change a vote.
Comey said he wasnt detoured on Flynn or the Ruskies collusion.
Comey said there was no evidence of collusion.
Clapper said there was no evidence of collusion.
Rogers said there was no evidence of collusion.
Collusion owns and controls your brain. Your brain is stuck in imaginary schitt, but stuck in chitt it is. You are too stupid to get a clue.
Unreal. I feel sorry for gutless, spineless, pos you.
I really doubt you will ever have the satisfaction of ever having been a man.
As I'm taking some pains to remind here, my issue with Trump et al is collusion. The obstruction stuff.... coverups... starts to get a bit witch-hunty for my tastes, though I reserve final judgement on that until we know more, of course. Collusion is utterly unacceptable to me as it should be to any red-blooded American. Obstruction... can be pretty political. Not real into a partisan witch hunt scenario. Anyway.
I do remain uberly confidant that collusion will be shown to have occurred. I think the intel guys have that in the bag but have been/are building a case around peripheral illegalities since, as has been pointed out, collusion in itself might not be illegal or might be hard to prosecute. This is why I was very specific in my offer to bet on this issue- which still stands- and where I think Jorge saw his "out"- that he thought, since he doesn't seem to really comprehend written words properly, that I was offering to bet that they'd be convicted of collusion. Doubt that. I'm saying collusion will "be shown", and then I would think that convictions will be for other facets of the whole shebang. However my offer to bet is about collusion and once more, lacking collusion, I agree with you guys that without it this WOULD BE a deep state witch hunt.
So we'll see. In the meantime, I'm still researching the correct way to teabag all y'all haters when it turns out I'm right and you are wrong. I've been looking at GIF's and so on to celebrate with on a thread where you guys can come to take your rightful medicine, as I'm sure you will, right guys? At any rate, I'm still open to suggestions on that front, and I'm willing to personalize the experience to match any perversions or previously-held preferences you might have when it comes to getting man-bagged. Just let me know. I'm a very considerate person and wish to humiliate you as politely as possible.
whatever you consider is appropriate, Jello, will probably make us all laugh in disbelief. After all, you are the man.....or woman.....or whatever you are today.
Now you can go back into the closet and amuse yourself with both hands. Thanks for poking your empty head out. It's fun to watch it do weird things in the name of sanity. At least sanity as you see it.
As I'm taking some pains to remind here, my issue with Trump et al is collusion. The obstruction stuff.... coverups... starts to get a bit witch-hunty for my tastes, though I reserve final judgement on that until we know more, of course. Collusion is utterly unacceptable to me as it should be to any red-blooded American. Obstruction... can be pretty political. Not real into a partisan witch hunt scenario. Anyway.
I do remain uberly confidant that collusion will be shown to have occurred. I think the intel guys have that in the bag but have been/are building a case around peripheral illegalities since, as has been pointed out, collusion in itself might not be illegal or might be hard to prosecute. This is why I was very specific in my offer to bet on this issue- which still stands- and where I think Jorge saw his "out"- that he thought, since he doesn't seem to really comprehend written words properly, that I was offering to bet that they'd be convicted of collusion. Doubt that. I'm saying collusion will "be shown", and then I would think that convictions will be for other facets of the whole shebang. However my offer to bet is about collusion and once more, lacking collusion, I agree with you guys that without it this WOULD BE a deep state witch hunt.
So we'll see. In the meantime, I'm still researching the correct way to teabag all y'all haters when it turns out I'm right and you are wrong. I've been looking at GIF's and so on to celebrate with on a thread where you guys can come to take your rightful medicine, as I'm sure you will, right guys? At any rate, I'm still open to suggestions on that front, and I'm willing to personalize the experience to match any perversions or previously-held preferences you might have when it comes to getting man-bagged. Just let me know. I'm a very considerate person and wish to humiliate you as politely as possible.
You still miss the point that Trump has 100% legal authority to end any investigation and a pardon anyone he wants. In that itself it is impossible for him to obstruct or collude. He's the boss.
"Stop investigating. I'll pardon anyone you convict," Any President has that authority. What don't you get about that?
You get it, but just are stirring the pot. You will get my thread to 1000 posts, so thanks for the milestone.
Because they just went from 0-3 to 0-5 in special elections tonight that were all supposed to be "referendums" on Trump. Then the crowd at Handel's victory speech started chanting "Trump! Trump! Trump!"
I'm just saying things ain't looking great for your side. Do you see a way out in 2018? Or is Trump going to be booted from office leaving you guys with Hillary Pence?
So in the special elections, Trump was not repudiated. People ain't buying that DU lunacy. Stomach must gave an awful knot in it tonight if you hate Trump. Go ahead, continue to underestimate him and over estimate your moral and intellectual superiority. Play '18 and '20 wrong and the Dems will be a minority party for 30 years.
So in the special elections, Trump was not repudiated. People ain't buying that DU lunacy. Stomach must gave an awful knot in it tonight if you hate Trump. Go ahead, continue to underestimate him and over estimate your moral and intellectual superiority. Play '18 and '20 wrong and the Dems will be a minority party for 30 years.
Nothing wrong with keeping the LibTurd party in the minority! As a matter of fact MAGA is right on But that presupposes a Bigger fact that to have MAGA we First have to TOCB ! Take Our Country Back !!!
Because they just went from 0-3 to 0-5 in special elections tonight that were all supposed to be "referendums" on Trump. Then the crowd at Handel's victory speech started chanting "Trump! Trump! Trump!"
I'm just saying things ain't looking great for your side. Do you see a way out in 2018? Or is Trump going to be booted from office leaving you guys with Hillary Pence?
I keep seeing Alan Dershowitz speaking of late[more like shaking his damned head] about his party. Anyone with half a brain can see that the D's are circling the drain. They have completely left the 'centrists' by the wayside as they continue their journey to the far left, their supposed Utopia. And on top of all of this they want demand that Trump be gone which would leave a much more right leaning POTUS in place.
God I can only hope they continue down this path.......to extinction.
I predict they will go far Left in 2020, lose again badly and regroup behind a Bill Clinton-esque moderate sounding Progressive that will bring the rhetoric down and act "reasonable" and will make the "World love us again". Obama did that and was wildly successful in getting elected and a total flop in leadership. If the Dems find this Bill Clinton type, they will take the WH in 2024, but not both houses of Congress. You saw it here first. America changes the Party in the WH every 8 years with regularity. Barring complete economic chaos, Trump not only survives, but gets re-elected. That will send the Far Left of Dem Party into a catatonic state.
I predict they will go far Left in 2020, lose again badly and regroup behind a Bill Clinton-esque moderate sounding Progressive that will bring the rhetoric down and act "reasonable" and will make the "World love us again". Obama did that and was wildly successful in getting elected and a total flop in leadership. If the Dems find this Bill Clinton type, they will take the WH in 2024, but not both houses of Congress. You saw it here first. America changes the Party in the WH every 8 years with regularity. Barring complete economic chaos, Trump not only survives, but gets re-elected. That will send the Far Left of Dem Party into a catatonic state.
I predict they will go far Left in 2020, lose again badly and regroup behind a Bill Clinton-esque moderate sounding Progressive that will bring the rhetoric down and act "reasonable" and will make the "World love us again". Obama did that and was wildly successful in getting elected and a total flop in leadership. If the Dems find this Bill Clinton type, they will take the WH in 2024, but not both houses of Congress. You saw it here first. America changes the Party in the WH every 8 years with regularity. Barring complete economic chaos, Trump not only survives, but gets re-elected. That will send the Far Left of Dem Party into a catatonic state.
That's not why he was elected.
+1 and... CONGRATS TO HATARI AND AKMTNHNTR!!! 1,000th post on hatari's thread!
It was most definitely one factor as witnessed by his European tour. However, let's not veer off subject. There certainly were other factors that were greater contributors. My point is the Left will be forced to abandon the shrill rhetoric and appear "reasonable and moderate" which will be welcome by many voters in the mushy middle after 8 years of verbal napalm on both sides. My prediction.
As I'm taking some pains to remind here, my issue with Trump et al is collusion. The obstruction stuff.... coverups... starts to get a bit witch-hunty for my tastes, though I reserve final judgement on that until we know more, of course. Collusion is utterly unacceptable to me as it should be to any red-blooded American. Obstruction... can be pretty political. Not real into a partisan witch hunt scenario. Anyway.
I do remain uberly confidant that collusion will be shown to have occurred. I think the intel guys have that in the bag but have been/are building a case around peripheral illegalities since, as has been pointed out, collusion in itself might not be illegal or might be hard to prosecute. This is why I was very specific in my offer to bet on this issue- which still stands- and where I think Jorge saw his "out"- that he thought, since he doesn't seem to really comprehend written words properly, that I was offering to bet that they'd be convicted of collusion. Doubt that. I'm saying collusion will "be shown", and then I would think that convictions will be for other facets of the whole shebang. However my offer to bet is about collusion and once more, lacking collusion, I agree with you guys that without it this WOULD BE a deep state witch hunt.
So we'll see. In the meantime, I'm still researching the correct way to teabag all y'all haters when it turns out I'm right and you are wrong. I've been looking at GIF's and so on to celebrate with on a thread where you guys can come to take your rightful medicine, as I'm sure you will, right guys? At any rate, I'm still open to suggestions on that front, and I'm willing to personalize the experience to match any perversions or previously-held preferences you might have when it comes to getting man-bagged. Just let me know. I'm a very considerate person and wish to humiliate you as politely as possible.
I predict they will go far Left in 2020, lose again badly and regroup behind a Bill Clinton-esque moderate sounding Progressive that will bring the rhetoric down and act "reasonable" and will make the "World love us again". Obama did that and was wildly successful in getting elected and a total flop in leadership. If the Dems find this Bill Clinton type, they will take the WH in 2024, but not both houses of Congress. You saw it here first. America changes the Party in the WH every 8 years with regularity. Barring complete economic chaos, Trump not only survives, but gets re-elected. That will send the Far Left of Dem Party into a catatonic state.
That's not why he was elected.
+1 and... CONGRATS TO HATARI AND AKMTNHNTR!!! 1,000th post on hatari's thread!
We can credit JeffO's absolutely incredible faith in Trump's guilt for those 1000. Incredible, literally. There is no creditable reason to believe he is guilty of anything, but being a republican.
From another thread. More appropriate here I think.
Originally Posted by westside_benny
I think the old Afghani proverb was; Man climb 1000 mountains and becomes known to be a mountain climber. Man Fug hks one goat and becomes a goat fug her and all previous summits forever forgotten.
Not all up on the culture and whether it is better to be a mountain climber or a goat fugh er...but if anyone could answer that it would be Jeff the Jeffery, batting a thousa at calling them wronga; the predictor of incorrect, the In-Terper-tor of the bizarre, the master of mental disaster, the [bleep] wanna be teabaga....JEFFERYYY O!!!!! Well, I never got hired as a barker by Barnum and Bailey but I think Jeff makes the point better than I can.
Jeff, you always have the scoop on everything political and a 100% record. Why was Comey at the NYT HQ yesterday?
Jeff has not posted in the Campfire since the 20th, he has only made 2 post on the 24hr since then as well, I wonder what his deal is, doesn't he like us anymore??????????????
I was looking forward to hearing more about his "Superhuman" activities.
He's scouring DU for a spin on the Special Election disaster and how to turn collusion into obstruction into ANYTHING. Depression is a serious condition. Democrats need to consult their physicians before single payer health care mandates 4 referrals and a 8 month wait to get in.
That fuggers head is gonna explode when Justice Kennedy retires.
Can you imagine the mental anguish the Left will have to live with if Trump gets to replace Scalia, Kennedy, and RBG? Next 20 years will have a conservative leaning court.
the word at DU is that Jello is in a dark closet critically assessing his ability to debate politics, among othre things, while he changes hands without losing a stroke.
the word at DU is that Jello is in a dark closet critically assessing his ability to debate politics, among othre things, while he changes hands without losing a stroke.
I predict they will go far Left in 2020, lose again badly and regroup behind a Bill Clinton-esque moderate sounding Progressive that will bring the rhetoric down and act "reasonable" and will make the "World love us again". Obama did that and was wildly successful in getting elected and a total flop in leadership. If the Dems find this Bill Clinton type, they will take the WH in 2024, but not both houses of Congress. You saw it here first. America changes the Party in the WH every 8 years with regularity. Barring complete economic chaos, Trump not only survives, but gets re-elected. That will send the Far Left of Dem Party into a catatonic state.
I agree with everything but the emboldened part. Obama ran and was elected because he wanted to change America, he didn't have much of a track record to show people who he really was, he was charismatic and because a lot of people wanted to help elect the first black President.
As for the rest of the statement, I agree. The Dems are not done going far left yet and the Dem centrists are ready or able to take back their party yet.
Howdy my good friends of the Campfire! Been a while.
Didn't read back to see how the circle-jerk has been going, but I trust you've all been taking good care of each other?
Not a ton to say today, as it's gorgeous here and I have mucho better things to do, but HOLLY CARP are the wheels coming off the Trump-cart! Wow. I saw today that he's equating Clinton taking down Sanders in some dirty primary pool to, oh I dunno, colluding with our chief global strategic rival to corrupt an election and damage our democracy!
There's never been a POTUS, or for that matter a political party, that aligns with my mix of beliefs. I take the good, bitch about the bad, and watch in dismay as we slowly spin down the toilet as a nation. But I'm starting to think there ain't gonna BE ANY good with this administration. The dude just does not give enough of a [bleep] about the major issues to even reach functional literacy on them! Have you all just forgotten all the grandiose promises he made as a candidate, you know, the ones that had your panties around your ankles? Do you even CARE? Or have you devolved into pure partisanship (uh... yeah, you have)?
Anyway. Just noting that the dumbfück reality-TV NYC elitist political chameleon is showing us his ass on a daily basis. He. Just. Doesn't. Get. It.
And he's not gonna.
Still calling that he/his campaign will be shown to have colluded by November 2018. Bank it.
I know you stated a few days ago that you were going on a 'meme' hunt. Was that the funniest one you could find? Pretty depressing. I'm willing to laugh at either sides expense but it has to be quality. That wouldn't even be funny if you put Hillarity's face on it.
But I get where you are coming from. When I voted for Trump I expected that the wall would be completed within no more than 90 days and ISIS would be one for the history books by now as well. I figured I'd get a 75% raise at my job within 45 days, that didn't happen either. Plus I can't even find a decent stock to purchase under the current 'deplorable' market conditions...they just keep going up. WTF!?!?
Didn't read back to see how the circle-jerk has been going,
Seems more like
Originally Posted by Jeff_O
LALALALALALA I'm not going to discuss anything with you with just repeat MSM talking points and CNN is totally making execs review every Russia story after they had to retract the Scarmucci/Russia story since it was completely false
LALALALALALA I'm not going to discuss anything with you with just repeat MSM talking points and CNN is totally making execs review every Russia story after they had to retract the Scarmucci/Russia story since it was completely false
Well whaddya know, Jeff was right. FIRST TIME EVER BOOM!! At least Jeff can pretend to be smart, if only vicariously.
LALALALALALA I'm not going to discuss anything with you with just repeat MSM talking points and CNN is totally making execs review every Russia story after they had to retract the Scarmucci/Russia story since it was completely false
Well whaddya know, Jeff was right. FIRST TIME EVER BOOM!! At least Jeff can pretend to be smart, if only vicariously.
1- Lay the crow on it's back in front of you with it's head pointed to the right.
2- Take a finger and locate where the breast bone meets the upper abdomen.
3- With a sharp knife, make a cut across the crow (wing to wing) below the breast bone. Don't be concerned about cutting too deep, no edible meat will be damaged with this cut.
4- Holding the birds feet with your left hand, place 2 or 3 fingers under the skin where the cut was made and pull in opposite directions. The skinless breast meat should now be exposed.
5- Take the knife again and separate each breast half away from the bone starting in the middle and working outward. You should end up with 2 lime sized pieces of crow breast. Discard the remains properly.
1- Lay the crow on it's back in front of you with it's head pointed to the right.
2- Take a finger and locate where the breast bone meets the upper abdomen.
3- With a sharp knife, make a cut across the crow (wing to wing) below the breast bone. Don't be concerned about cutting too deep, no edible meat will be damaged with this cut.
4- Holding the birds feet with your left hand, place 2 or 3 fingers under the skin where the cut was made and pull in opposite directions. The skinless breast meat should now be exposed.
5- Take the knife again and separate each breast half away from the bone starting in the middle and working outward. You should end up with 2 lime sized pieces of crow breast. Discard the remains properly.
Why doesn't the idiot have to eat the fur, feathers, and lips, too?
I don't know Kenneth. Last we heard from him he was practicing teabagging dudes or practicing being teabagged. Either way, sounds gay and I bet there was collusion between testicles.
Another reason to stuff this up jeffobama and the rest of the traitors on this forum's throat: FAKE DOSSIER
This schit runs deep!
A lot of things are going to come to light in the next 3 years, hopefully the Secret Service can keep Trump safe.
That sentence is unfortunately a very serious one. I hope somebody made some changes since Trump won the Presidency. Remember all the screw ups by the Secret Service when Obama was in office. This crap is serious now.
Another reason to stuff this up jeffobama and the rest of the traitors on this forum's throat: FAKE DOSSIER
This schit runs deep!
A lot of things are going to come to light in the next 3 years, hopefully the Secret Service can keep Trump safe.
That sentence is unfortunately a very serious one. I hope somebody made some changes since Trump won the Presidency. Remember all the screw ups by the Secret Service when Obama was in office. This crap is serious now.
Maybe the SS was not trying as hard?
Problem with Zero was Biden. Who would want him in control of anything?
This is some wild and incriminating stuff. I foresee Zucker getting canned at CNN before the smoke clears. Time Warner really can't afford to have CNN regulated to the National Inquirer of cable news. Actually, I have more faith in the Inquirer. They require 2 verified sources - even for alien sightings.
All of this winning is fun, until we look at the fact it is at the expense of our country. HOW does anyone walk away from this?
Can't trust the govt; Check Cant trust FBI ; Check Cant trust media ; Check Can't trust.... ; Check
...and damn near half the populace is so jaded as to not even care. I'm glad all of this is coming getting forced out finally. Many of us have expected as much for decades, now it becomes a matter of which pill the rest will swallow. Personally, I'd take small discomfort now over an all out shooting war for my kids/grandkids...but changes must come and come they will. One thing I will not complain about is the Presidents tweets; unerveing as they can be there would never be this transparancy without them. It is the podeum of the day, most certainly the MSM is NOT.
Life is difficult for JeffO today. Another body blow to the Resist Trump fantasy from the leaders of the movement - CNN
Bwahaha!
THAT does NOT look good for Trump. Admit it. Comey got himself fired with the plan that CNN would pretend to get caught doing fake news so that they could conclude the investigation without executive branch meddling. Watch out. This is just the calm before the storm...and Trump is about to get washed out to sea.
Well, I can't say it as eloquently as Jeffey, but don't say I didn't warn ya. LMFAO.
Actually finally made a decent meme- I know, I know- and now PB has changed their policy and wants money to let me post pics here? Fawk!
Well, trust me, it's AWESOME.
By the way- Flynn. He's the Russia vector. Or at least, one of them.
I try to stay focused here on what this thread is about- Comey, Russian collusion, Mueller, etc.... but it's hard. The Donald is a hot mess plus+ squared. As I've said here numerous times I really dislike him as a man, always have, but I saw some positives in his supposed platform. Some stuff that intrigued me. I'm still hoping to see him get a chance to be a change-agent with that stuff but holy FÜCK is he trainwrecking. And Mueller isn't even putting the screws to him yet. When he does... wow.
Well, point being, Mr. T can likely come away clean from SOME campaign members collusion... if there was any, of course... but not Flynn. And he's lookin' awfully dirty. If he is, Trump will be [bleep].
Actually finally made a decent meme- I know, I know- and now PB has changed their policy and wants money to let me post pics here? Fawk!
Well, trust me, it's AWESOME.
By the way- Flynn. He's the Russia vector. Or at least, one of them.
I try to stay focused here on what this thread is about- Comey, Russian collusion, Mueller, etc.... but it's hard. The Donald is a hot mess plus+ squared. As I've said here numerous times I really dislike him as a man, always have, but I saw some positives in his supposed platform. Some stuff that intrigued me. I'm still hoping to see him get a chance to be a change-agent with that stuff but holy FÜCK is he trainwrecking. And Mueller isn't even putting the screws to him yet. When he does... wow.
This is gonna be Uber.
You resemble a child who's starved for attention..
Actually finally made a decent meme- I know, I know- and now PB has changed their policy and wants money to let me post pics here? Fawk!
Well, trust me, it's AWESOME.
By the way- Flynn. He's the Russia vector. Or at least, one of them.
I try to stay focused here on what this thread is about- Comey, Russian collusion, Mueller, etc.... but it's hard. The Donald is a hot mess plus+ squared. As I've said here numerous times I really dislike him as a man, always have, but I saw some positives in his supposed platform. Some stuff that intrigued me. I'm still hoping to see him get a chance to be a change-agent with that stuff but holy FÜCK is he trainwrecking. And Mueller isn't even putting the screws to him yet. When he does... wow.
Jell0, if what you say about collusion is true, can you contemplate any reason Hillary wouldnt be raising a stink. I mean, after all, shes the one who indicated bad news was coming about Trump just days before the fake Russian prostitute story surfaced.
Strange isnt it that collusion between her and govt insiders when she was a private citizen is essentially proven.
Me thinks she is keeping a low profile for good reason. When ever did the bitch ever before keep her mouth closed. You may find it in your interest to get a clue and follow suit.
Flynn was specifically cleared of wrong doing in his recorded conversations with the Russian ambassador, but I don't believe Flynn has been cleared in his failure to register as a foreign agent, his failure to disclose lobbying for Turkey, and not being honest with the FBI. Flynn still has some hurdles to jump before being cleared of "any" wrong doing. Trump has said he would like to hire back Flynn once he has been cleard and that hasn't happened yet.
Flynn was specifically cleared of wrong doing in his recorded conversations with Russian ambassador, but I don't believe Flynn has been cleared in his failure to register as a foreign agent, his failure to disclose lobbying for Turkey, and not being honest with the FBI. Flynn still has some hurdles to jump before being cleared of "any" wrong doing. Trump has said he would like to hire back Flynn once he has been cleard and that hasn't happened yet.
Can you imagine the pandemonium that would ensue if prominent democrats ever needed to be 'cleared' of wrong doing? That would NOT be a nothing burger. It's time for this country to move forward and save the extreme vetting for the terrorists that want a free plane ticket, three hots, and an air conditioned cot.
Well, point being, Mr. T can likely come away clean from SOME campaign members collusion... if there was any, of course... but not Flynn. And he's lookin' awfully dirty. If he is, Trump will be [bleep].
Nice to see you back Jeff. It was getting dull around here. Now we can get back to being plain old fashioned dumb.
Well, point being, Mr. T can likely come away clean from SOME campaign members collusion... if there was any, of course... but not Flynn. And he's lookin' awfully dirty. If he is, Trump will be [bleep].
Nice to see you back Jeff. It was getting dull around here. Now we can get back to being plain old fashioned dumb.
Well, point being, Mr. T can likely come away clean from SOME campaign members collusion... if there was any, of course... but not Flynn. And he's lookin' awfully dirty. If he is, Trump will be [bleep].
Nice to see you back Jeff. It was getting dull around here. Now we can get back to being plain old fashioned dumb.
Or just wrong 100% of the time.
Hey, I keep hoping that Jeff can help me narrow down some long shots for a short sale. He never does. But if he did my I'd be all ears. Jeff, if your out there (and not to busy coming up w/ hilarious memes), what would be a good stock for my kids to buy and hold for say 10-20 years?
The biggest thing I'm looking forward too Jeff, are the dinks you shoot this year after your epic getting in shape posts and hunting skills.... Look forward to pics, or lack there of....
Well, point being, Mr. T can likely come away clean from SOME campaign members collusion... if there was any, of course... but not Flynn. And he's lookin' awfully dirty. If he is, Trump will be [bleep].
Nice to see you back Jeff. It was getting dull around here. Now we can get back to being plain old fashioned dumb.
Ha ha ha ha. Well said and too true. Life is too dull without pollock, aggie, bleck, and jell0 jokes.
NOT a good look, especially since they are only now disclosing this meeting. The pincers are closing...
Thought the notion of an impenetrable cyber-whatever was pretty funny. The man will say ANYTHING. Anyway, neither here nor there in the big picture, just kinda embarrassing to have such a naive POTUS. But at least now we know for sure Russia wasn't involved: Putin says so! Vehemently!
Look forward to your stupid liberal BS, your epic hikes and little bike rides of how you are so in shape, your awesome hunts where you have no idea what you are doing, and maybe your dink killing threads with a frosting of how cool your dink was since you build your rifle...Grin...
You are such a "man" that you try waaaay to hard to try to be. It's epic funny....
NOT a good look, especially since they are only now disclosing this meeting. The pincers are closing...
Thought the notion of an impenetrable cyber-whatever was pretty funny. The man will say ANYTHING. Anyway, neither here nor there in the big picture, just kinda embarrassing to have such a naive POTUS. But at least now we know for sure Russia wasn't involved: Putin says so! Vehemently!
Sucker sure has a mental fixation. Market is up, hiring is up, economy is up, border jumping is down, unemployment is down, muzzy imports are down and we got suckered.
Jell0, you are one more dumb mofo, even if your ma didnt tell you so.
NOT a good look, especially since they are only now disclosing this meeting. The pincers are closing...
Thought the notion of an impenetrable cyber-whatever was pretty funny. The man will say ANYTHING. Anyway, neither here nor there in the big picture, just kinda embarrassing to have such a naive POTUS. But at least now we know for sure Russia wasn't involved: Putin says so! Vehemently!
Ahhh, we have been so owned on this one.
Translation:
"This is the one that will bring Trump down, and put Hillary in the Whitehouse! Nevermind that the story 3 days ago didn't work, or the one last week, or the week before that. This is REAL! I can feel it in my liberal bones!
,,,,I mean this story comes from a credible news source. Just like all the other stories they have done on him. ,,, Oh, all those retractions and CNN backpeddling doesn't matter. THIS one is it! And if it isn't, then I wait with transgenitals in hand for evening news tomorrow for a better work of fiction."
All this hope and wishes over the "nothing burger", but not a peep abouot how the Clinton Foundation pay for influence dried up as soon HRC was defeated. The Clinton Foundation was what then, if not pay for influence? Not a peep about something real.
It must be living hell to be a Leftist right now to cling to a nothing story as your only hope for a brighter tomorrow.
It's dismaying to watch the Right change their tune on all this [bleep] though. By the time it's proven there was collusion- and it will be- many on the Right will have morphed full-retard into "believing" (because they'll be told to by talk radio and Breitbart, and they are sheeple) that it doesn't matter.
Nothing could be further from the truth.
An epic battle looms. There's treason at the highest levels of .gov., this is 100% certain at this point. But is it Deep State treason or POTUS treason? Enquiring minds want to know. But what we do with whatever info we finally get will be the really interesting thing. Are you gonna go all sheeple? Are you the patriots you claim to be? If collusion is shown we gonna find out.
NOT a good look, especially since they are only now disclosing this meeting. The pincers are closing...
Thought the notion of an impenetrable cyber-whatever was pretty funny. The man will say ANYTHING. Anyway, neither here nor there in the big picture, just kinda embarrassing to have such a naive POTUS. But at least now we know for sure Russia wasn't involved: Putin says so! Vehemently!
Ahhh, we have been so owned on this one.
I got to thinking about this.......
Bunch of real classy folks you hang with, Can't get at Trump so ya go after his kid, Class boys, real class.
It's dismaying to watch the Right change their tune on all this [bleep] though. By the time it's proven there was collusion- and it will be- many on the Right will have morphed full-retard into "believing" (because they'll be told to by talk radio and Breitbart, and they are sheeple) that it doesn't matter.
Nothing could be further from the truth.
An epic battle looms. There's treason at the highest levels of .gov., this is 100% certain at this point. But is it Deep State treason or POTUS treason? Enquiring minds want to know. But what we do with whatever info we finally get will be the really interesting thing. Are you gonna go all sheeple? Are you the patriots you claim to be? If collusion is shown we gonna find out.
Didn't they just retract a report about 17 intelligence agencies? Oh no, it was the producers and talking heads at CNN that said on-camera the Trump-Russia story was a "nothingburger" "made up" for ratings.
It was the NYT that had to retract the story about Trump-Russia and 17 intelligence agencies saying there was collusion (again, not at all illegal). The same paper of record in court today since they're being sued for defamation.
From the BBC, that bastion of fake news! across the pond:
"Why are Russia questions so hard for the Trump team?
In June Trump Jr took to Twitter to celebrate former FBI head James Comey's testimony that there was no evidence campaign aides had "repeated contacts" with Russians. Now, it turns out, he helped set up one such meeting. Mr Kushner wrote in his security clearance application that he never met with Russian nationals - and had to subsequently revise his answers when it was revealed he had multiple meetings. Close campaign aide turned White House National Security Advisor Michael Flynn said he never spoke with Russian Ambassador Sergei Kislyak about sanctions. He resigned in disgrace after government surveillance proved that assertion inaccurate. Mr Manafort had to acknowledge he received millions in payments from a pro-Russian Ukrainian party and retroactively register as a foreign agent, after insisting last year that he had no such ties. Jeff Sessions, a close political confidant of Mr Trump during the campaign and now US attorney general, had to recuse himself from his department's Russia investigation because he was not forthcoming about his own meetings with Mr Kislyak. Time and time again those close to Mr Trump have had to backtrack on assurances they made that they did not have Russian contacts or connections. Taken individually, these episodes may be unremarkable. In their totality, however, they become a steady drumbeat of evasion and obfuscation whenever the topic of Russia comes up"
The part I bolded wins the "Ya THINK?!" award for July!
It also contained this little gem:
"For the past few weeks some Trump supporters have been insisting that even if members of the campaign did co-ordinate with Russian operatives, it wouldn't have been illegal or even improper."
You guys are really gonna go there, aren't you? You really are gonna go full-retard on this. I mean not all y'all of course; but we know who I mean here. You really are gonna go all-in that there was nothing wrong with this.
From the BBC, that bastion of fake news! across the pond:
"Why are Russia questions so hard for the Trump team?
In June Trump Jr took to Twitter to celebrate former FBI head James Comey's testimony that there was no evidence campaign aides had "repeated contacts" with Russians. Now, it turns out, he helped set up one such meeting. Mr Kushner wrote in his security clearance application that he never met with Russian nationals - and had to subsequently revise his answers when it was revealed he had multiple meetings. Close campaign aide turned White House National Security Advisor Michael Flynn said he never spoke with Russian Ambassador Sergei Kislyak about sanctions. He resigned in disgrace after government surveillance proved that assertion inaccurate. Mr Manafort had to acknowledge he received millions in payments from a pro-Russian Ukrainian party and retroactively register as a foreign agent, after insisting last year that he had no such ties. Jeff Sessions, a close political confidant of Mr Trump during the campaign and now US attorney general, had to recuse himself from his department's Russia investigation because he was not forthcoming about his own meetings with Mr Kislyak. Time and time again those close to Mr Trump have had to backtrack on assurances they made that they did not have Russian contacts or connections. Taken individually, these episodes may be unremarkable. In their totality, however, they become a steady drumbeat of evasion and obfuscation whenever the topic of Russia comes up"
The part I bolded wins the "Ya THINK?!" award for July!
It also contained this little gem:
"For the past few weeks some Trump supporters have been insisting that even if members of the campaign did co-ordinate with Russian operatives, it wouldn't have been illegal or even improper."
You guys are really gonna go there, aren't you? You really are gonna go full-retard on this. I mean not all y'all of course; but we know who I mean here. You really are gonna go all-in that there was nothing wrong with this.
It wasnt illegal. If D Trump had met with the Ruskies, it wouldnt have been illegal.
What is it that you cant grasp about that?
6 mo in office and Mosul is liberated from zeros buds and apparently yours.
Congrats! You helped my innocent post reach 1100 replies! I had no idea that Leftist derangement and troll curiosity would carry this so far. I can't decide whether it is weed induced paranoia over Trump or Troll Denial Syndrome that keeps it going. When CNN tells us it is a "nothing burger", what is the left to say?
If I met with somebody from Russia, am I part of the "collusion" What if I had Russian dressing on a pastrami on rye? Is that obstruction or collision. Tough to get the fantasy of the week straight sometimes.
"Did I meet with people that were Russian? I’m sure, I’m sure I did,” he said. “But none that were set up. None that I can think of at the moment. And certainly none that I was representing the campaign in any way, shape or form.”
L I A R
I'm guessing news of all this is even leaking into the alt.right bubble.... not that the alt.right apparently gives a [bleep] about our sovereignty, which is ironic, don't you think?
Jorge, it was wise of you to bob and weave about betting me... because you'd be boxing up 10 boxes bullets right now.
And to think, we are still on the front edge of this. Oh, the DC drama yet to come!
Don't get caught out on the wrong side of this one, gents. There's no coming back from that.
"Did I meet with people that were Russian? I’m sure, I’m sure I did,” he said. “But none that were set up. None that I can think of at the moment. And certainly none that I was representing the campaign in any way, shape or form.”
L I A R
I'm guessing news of all this is even leaking into the alt.right bubble.... not that the alt.right apparently gives a [bleep] about our sovereignty, which is ironic, don't you think?
Jorge, it was wise of you to bob and weave about betting me... because you'd be boxing up 10 boxes bullets right now.
And to think, we are still on the front edge of this. Oh, the DC drama yet to come!
Don't get caught out on the wrong side of this one, gents. There's no coming back from that.
You are a slimy, welching, scumbag and everyone here KNOWS IT.
Pos thinks it should be against the law to lie, but only for Rs.
Paul, hes amazing. I dont think i have ever before communicated with such a stupid and dumb idiot, without a nurse or caretaker with a patient from a mental or childcare facility. He is unbelievably dense for someone allowed loose in public. I sure feel sorry for his family.
So now Trump Jr. is the smoking gun that is going to get Trump out of office? For what? Someone calls him with dirt on Hillary? Probably 10,000 people have dirt on Hillary. Most are afraid to die under mysterious circumstances to rat her out.
Let's be serious. What campaign isn't interested in dirt on the opponent? Was it collusion with TMZ when the Dems came up with Trump likes to grab puzzi? Big stink. Did that influence our election? It sure was designed to. How about when Obama did a commercial for Macron in France? Was that designed to influence French politics? Obamas team working against Bennie in Israel? Wasn't that trying to influence that election?
So what is so damned illegal about Trump Jr. talking to a Russian? Answer- NOTHING!
This is all the Left has. They have been so thoroughly repudiated and humiliated that they cling to this as they endure their Trump ass whipping.
To all you Leftists out there - why do want to get rid of Trump if he is so incompetent? Won't he be easy to beat in 2020? Dump him now and you get Pence. Pence is BIGLY Pro Life. Pence is smooth and accomplished politician. Be careful what you ignoramuses wish for.
By the way guys (you too, Mark!) it's not too soon to start in with the begrudging yet somehow AWESOME "you were right, Jeff!" comments. I mean, there will be ample opportunity further along in this process, but for those who just want to rip the bandaid off quickly, I will accept your supplications starting now. PM's are fine but public is better.
Mark, given that you are an immature urban metrosexual computer-humper who apparently steals time from his (sic) employer all day... wanna find me a good teabagging GIF? I had one but now it's lost to Photobucket. Thanks bro! Or sis! Or whatever the [bleep] you are!
The big question is how will "you" respond to the evidence (a'yup) that POTUS is a traitor? You guys ready to come inside from your little sheet-fort and join the adults at the table? Or are you doubling down on this notion that a proven bald-face liar of an egomaniac NY elite real estate billionaire who's never worked an honest day in his [bleep] LIFE actually gives a rip about the typical American?
Put another way, given how many of "you" clearly enjoyed the taste of his lil orange nutsack, and bought the fake-ass cult of personality hook, line and sinker (actual outdoorsmen use those, Mark), are you going to be able to pull away before you get the money-shot splattered on your face? Or are you ALL in?
I await your supplications. Thanks guys. It's been fun being right.
I await your supplications. Thanks guys. It's been fun being right.
I'll say this... You are one delusional, if not persistent MF'r.
I just thank God every day that I'm not as mentally impared as you and those like you. It must be hell to live in a dream world without a concept of reality.
By the way guys (you too, Mark!) it's not too soon to start in with the begrudging yet somehow AWESOME "you were right, Jeff!" comments. I mean, there will be ample opportunity further along in this process, but for those who just want to rip the bandaid off quickly, I will accept your supplications starting now. PM's are fine but public is better.
What kind of weed do you smoke out there? Have you skipped your other meds today? Jeez.
By the way guys (you too, Mark!) it's not too soon to start in with the begrudging yet somehow AWESOME "you were right, Jeff!" comments. I mean, there will be ample opportunity further along in this process, but for those who just want to rip the bandaid off quickly, I will accept your supplications starting now. PM's are fine but public is better.
Mark, given that you are an immature urban metrosexual computer-humper who apparently steals time from his (sic) employer all day... wanna find me a good teabagging GIF? I had one but now it's lost to Photobucket. Thanks bro! Or sis! Or whatever the [bleep] you are!
The big question is how will "you" respond to the evidence (a'yup) that POTUS is a traitor? You guys ready to come inside from your little sheet-fort and join the adults at the table? Or are you doubling down on this notion that a proven bald-face liar of an egomaniac NY elite real estate billionaire who's never worked an honest day in his [bleep] LIFE actually gives a rip about the typical American?
Put another way, given how many of "you" clearly enjoyed the taste of his lil orange nutsack, and bought the fake-ass cult of personality hook, line and sinker (actual outdoorsmen use those, Mark), are you going to be able to pull away before you get the money-shot splattered on your face? Or are you ALL in?
I await your supplications. Thanks guys. It's been fun being right.
You're not right...The seeds of "collusion" planted by the DNC and their media partners (as a deflection) have fallen on infertile ground and will never take root. Which is why my bet with you took the extra step of impeachment. YOU ARE GOING TO OWE ME A BOX OF BOOLITS
Mark, given that you are an immature urban metrosexual computer-humper who apparently steals time from his (sic) employer all day... wanna find me a good teabagging GIF? I had one but now it's lost to Photobucket. Thanks bro! Or sis! Or whatever the [bleep] you are!
LOL..!! JellO has resurfaced with new hope and vigor and with a new nut cup in place to hopefully absorb the beating he'll be taking when this too becomes nothing .
In the meantime, the Mello Man will be smokin', strokin', and Googlin' and hopin'
Mark, given that you are an immature urban metrosexual computer-humper who apparently steals time from his (sic) employer all day... wanna find me a good teabagging GIF? I had one but now it's lost to Photobucket. Thanks bro! Or sis! Or whatever the [bleep] you are!
Since we're on a new page...
Jeff, I'm not going to play this game where you subtly threaten to dox me with info from old PMs.
dox däks verb, informal gerund or present participle: doxxing search for and publish private or identifying information about (a particular individual) on the Internet, typically with malicious intent.
If you keep up your little game of BS then I'm going to play too. By now, you've googled my name and phone number. If you're smart you'll search yours as well. I'd like to stop this chitty game. If you continue to insist I will play....
To all you Leftists out there - why do want to get rid of Trump if he is so incompetent? Won't he be easy to beat in 2020? Dump him now and you get Pence. Pence is BIGLY Pro Life. Pence is smooth and accomplished politician. Be careful what you ignoramuses wish for.
Well I'm willing to bet that a whole lot of ignorant leftists believe that if President Trump is removed, then Hillary would become President. Remember, the left is not that bright.
I would also be willing to bet, that if the left were successful in removing President Trump based on "collusion" with the Russians, then they will file suit , claiming his collusion rendered the entire election, null and void, thus removing the constitutional order of sussession.
Basically saying " he cheated, so Hillary wins".
Far fetched I know, but the left always has a plan and they are indeed bat [bleep] crazy and will stop at nothing to stop Trump and put Hillary on her rightful thrown.
To all you Leftists out there - why do want to get rid of Trump if he is so incompetent? Won't he be easy to beat in 2020? Dump him now and you get Pence. Pence is BIGLY Pro Life. Pence is smooth and accomplished politician. Be careful what you ignoramuses wish for.
Well I'm willing to bet that a whole lot of ignorant leftists believe that if President Trump is removed, then Hillary would become President. Remember, the left is not that bright.
I would also be willing to bet, that if the left were successful in removing President Trump based on "collusion" with the Russians, then they will file suit , claiming his collusion rendered the entire election, null and void, thus removing the constitutional order of sussession.
Basically saying " he cheated, so Hillary wins".
Far fetched I know, but the left always has a plan and they are indeed bat [bleep] crazy and will stop at nothing to stop Trump and put Hillary on her rightful thrown.
You have got to be the dumbest person on this thread. And that's saying something.
To all you Leftists out there - why do want to get rid of Trump if he is so incompetent? Won't he be easy to beat in 2020? Dump him now and you get Pence. Pence is BIGLY Pro Life. Pence is smooth and accomplished politician. Be careful what you ignoramuses wish for.
Well I'm willing to bet that a whole lot of ignorant leftists believe that if President Trump is removed, then Hillary would become President. Remember, the left is not that bright.
I would also be willing to bet, that if the left were successful in removing President Trump based on "collusion" with the Russians, then they will file suit , claiming his collusion rendered the entire election, null and void, thus removing the constitutional order of sussession.
Basically saying " he cheated, so Hillary wins".
Far fetched I know, but the left always has a plan and they are indeed bat [bleep] crazy and will stop at nothing to stop Trump and put Hillary on her rightful thrown.
You have got to be the dumbest person on this thread. And that's saying something.
The left is without conscience. "By any means..." I wouldn't put anything out of the realm of possibility. Who would have thought that a SOS could or would put classified info on an unsecured server, and skate? How about Sandy Berger, visiting the archives and stuffing documents down his pants? PREPOSTEROUS! They must have a boatload of crap on everybody else, to avoid prosecution.
Mueller says he wants to see Trump Jr.s emails. that means he doesn't have them? What does he have and where did it come from? Let's look at who was in the room at this supposed "meeting"
Trump Jr. Manifort Kushner Russian Lawyer
Now, for 500 points and the lead, who in that list would most likely leak info to screw with the US system? If you said "Russian Lawyer", you're not stoned. If you said any of the others, put the bong down, and chill until your high passes.
To all you Leftists out there - why do want to get rid of Trump if he is so incompetent? Won't he be easy to beat in 2020? Dump him now and you get Pence. Pence is BIGLY Pro Life. Pence is smooth and accomplished politician. Be careful what you ignoramuses wish for.
Well I'm willing to bet that a whole lot of ignorant leftists believe that if President Trump is removed, then Hillary would become President. Remember, the left is not that bright.
I would also be willing to bet, that if the left were successful in removing President Trump based on "collusion" with the Russians, then they will file suit , claiming his collusion rendered the entire election, null and void, thus removing the constitutional order of sussession.
Basically saying " he cheated, so Hillary wins".
Far fetched I know, but the left always has a plan and they are indeed bat [bleep] crazy and will stop at nothing to stop Trump and put Hillary on her rightful thrown.
You have got to be the dumbest person on this thread. And that's saying something.
No one can be as stupid or used or as lowlife as you and your commie sympathizer buds.
Just had a nice, long post get deleted by a crash. Ugh.
Here it is in a nutshell guys, and while I'm having my fun busting balls as it becomes obvious to anyone with two brain cells to rub together that I'm right and you're wrong... I'm being serious now.
As I've been saying since the beginning, Russia has punked us. I suspect that the emails that Jr. just had to release are an example of that. That initial email to him reads like a pure setup, and he bought it hook line and sinker.
There will be more Russian time bombs to come, mark my words. They'll time them to cause max disruption and chaos and eventually they take down our POTUS-- actually they already have. But formally so. They'll make it impossible that he stays.
THIS is what the intel guys mean by "compromised". They have incredible leverage over our POTUS right now. I've also said that this was the real worry and I said THAT at the beginning. What will Trump do when threatened with this? What WOUDN'T he do to not go down in history as a traitor?
I'm gonna bust your balls over this. You have it coming. I'm gonna lord it over some of you forever. Sorry 'bout that. You'd do the same, so actually, I'm not sorry about that, I think it's funny as [bleep]. But back to being serious: guys it's time to start coming back to rationality. Things got so inflamed and partisan that I get it, you dug in. And I get that it's gotta be humiliating, and I'll do my part to ram that humiliation down your [bleep] THROATS.... because that's what we are doing here; we are men busting balls on the internet and, well, it's your turn to fry. But in real life? Time to come back, guys. Time to eat some crow and man up and admit you got fleeced and bring it on back to being the good patriotic Americans I know that most of you are. POTUS Pence ain't gonna be so bad. This isn't the end of the world.
Plus, there's this bonus: whenever you need a little pick-me-up, just imagine this sound, coming from the general direction of Oregon, in my inimitable voice:
Bwa ha ha ha ha!
Time to come home guys. America needs you. Serious now. Bring it in. Hands together. Go America!!!
JellO, the Russians have "punked" us for years. Just as we have "punked" them for years.
The only difference this time is that you libs thought you had a lock on the White House with your fish smelling pussy candidate, and when that didn't work out, in desperation ya'll have thrown a million things against the wall hoping something might stick. Nothing will.
I just hope ya'll keep pitching at the wall. At this point in reality and time, ya'll have just about pitched your party into leftist oblivion. More winning on the right, and you're not smart enough in your unexpected distress to see it happening. Hilarious!!!!!
Go smoke another blunt and have a nice day. And give Google a break. You're stressing.
Let us know how much work you get done at that age troll. The proof is in the pudding. And while you are speaking about watching TV, maybe layoff watching Fake News yourself a bit.
Do you guys think they will let Trump Sr. and Trump Jr. share the same jail cell? I know it would be unprecedented but I think they should let them bunk together.
Enough already. When they go back and investigate Hillary, Bill and Obama then they can move forward with this. Bill made 500K speaking in Russia while his wife was Secretary of State. Hillary used and wiped her own personal server of classified emails. Obama transferred millions to Iran and he told the Russian ambassador that Putin needed to give him space until after his re-election and then he would have more latitude. How much did the Clinton foundation rake in with their dirty dealings and pay for play? How much did Podesta's company make when he helped Hillary sell uranium to the Russians. Didn't HIllary release a damaging (fake) dossier on Trump?
Meat Gazer, a loser, second rate attorney from bumphuck nowhere with a dick fetish, JeffObama, a known obama ball washer, dope smoker PTSD whilst falling off a ladder ass-pirate, and their alter ego Leroy Beaner, all on the wrong side of the equation. Speaks volumes about the dangers of: 1. Inbreeding 2. dope-smokers 3. homos
Meat Gazer, a loser, second rate attorney from bumphuck nowhere with a dick fetish, JeffObama, a known obama ball washer, dope smoker PTSD whilst falling off a ladder ass-pirate, and their alter ego Leroy Beaner, all on the wrong side of the equation. Speaks volumes about the dangers of: 1. Inbreeding 2. dope-smokers 3. homos
Just as I thought. You haven't a clue. Mimicking CNN is all you can do. Gutless POS cant even justify your position. You're a blowhard with no substance, grazer.
Toast me....I don't care. Congress is our friend. There are laws. Most are good laws, or at least as good as they can be, considering the people you guys elect, but....
The DOJ doesn't enforce them. The Court's don't enforce them. The POTUS doesn't GAF about any of it.
While we're all waiting for Jeff to get back on some of the questions posed again I think you all might need to think this over. Now I don't want to admit this but I think I finally found absolute proof of collusion and why it is taking so long for them to get Trump...and I hate to say it's all about to unravel, but it's going to take unraveling a lot of clues first. This is going to end up being like a real life version of that Nick Cage movie "American Treasure", and I wouldn't be surprised when the man behind the man, behind the man is not the Russians (their just along for the ride) but the Mason's!
I have two compelling examples...I shudder to think where this will lead but for Americas sake it NEEDS to be tracked down! When all you stop your blind support and start acting as TRUE PATRIOTS you will see this. It starts in the year 1978. I was two years old but Trump was in his early 30's and only worth $100 Million. Now follow me here, how does a 'boy business man', (not even a politician I might ad) end up nearly 40 years later worth 10 times that amount? No significant 501 C3, no major donors, no nothing...just some guy doing business...something stinks, am I right. Admit I'm right.
Well all of this was successfully buried for a LOOOONG time. But I ask you this. How, in 1978, did source know that in the future a son would be calling his dad for "LAWYERS, Guns, and Money". Afraid for his life he cleverly disguised this memo as the lyrics of a song and hid the first clue right under our very noses. Think its a coincidence that THAT man is no longer with us. We all talk about the folks that the Clinton's have offed (and maybe they have), but clearly Warren Zevon was Trumps first hit as he began masterminding his way to the Whitehouse a decade or so back. The lyrics say it All, even mention, "how was I to know she was with the Russians too?". Combine that with lawyers, money and, dad get me out of this and the first thread unravels.
Beyond that all I have so far is a pic from the same year of Trump hanging out around a project. The other dudes are pretty Russian looking...I'll be doing some research and adding to this. But I hate to say it. This DOES NOT LOOK GOOD FOR TRUMP. See exhibits A and B.
But that doesn't mean Trump is acceptable. In fact, he's a dimwit. He won't finish his term. He will be removed in shame. But before that happens:
1. He will be toyed with by Mueller like he was a f u ck doll.
2. His family and other scumbag sycophants will be put through the ringer and bankrupted before they too are imprisoned.
3. Did I mention that Trump will be used like a c u n t before Mueller drops the hammer on him?
Carry on, toolbags.
You stupid pos. We had the choice of two freaking horses. One had 4 stockings and white eyes, was crazy and cripple and no teeth. The other was a little old. So you deserve better and choose to beat the latter we rode with the muzzies after us. Freaking lieberals.
But that doesn't mean Trump is acceptable. In fact, he's a dimwit. He won't finish his term. He will be removed in shame. But before that happens:
1. He will be toyed with by Mueller like he was a f u ck doll.
2. His family and other scumbag sycophants will be put through the ringer and bankrupted before they too are imprisoned.
3. Did I mention that Trump will be used like a c u n t before Mueller drops the hammer on him?
Carry on, toolbags.
You stupid pos. We had the choice of two freaking horses. One had 4 stockings and white eyes, was crazy and cripple and no teeth. The other was a little old. So you deserve better and choose to beat the latter we rode with the muzzies after us. Freaking lieberals.
Put that way I respect your choice. But don't tell me Trump is anything but a scumbag. If you tell me he isn't a scumbag that makes you a fool. If you admit that he is a POS scumbag and an embarrassment to this country but you'd rather have that then HRC I'll shut the f u c k up.
But that doesn't mean Trump is acceptable. In fact, he's a dimwit. He won't finish his term. He will be removed in shame. But before that happens:
1. He will be toyed with by Mueller like he was a f u ck doll.
2. His family and other scumbag sycophants will be put through the ringer and bankrupted before they too are imprisoned.
3. Did I mention that Trump will be used like a c u n t before Mueller drops the hammer on him?
Carry on, toolbags.
You stupid pos. We had the choice of two freaking horses. One had 4 stockings and white eyes, was crazy and cripple and no teeth. The other was a little old. So you deserve better and choose to beat the latter we rode with the muzzies after us. Freaking lieberals.
Put that way I respect your choice. But don't tell me Trump is anything but a scumbag. If you tell me he isn't a scumbag that makes you a fool. If you admit that he is a POS scumbag and an embarrassment to this country but you'd rather have that then HRC I'll shut the f u c k up.
Meat Gazer, a loser, second rate attorney from bumphuck nowhere with a dick fetish, JeffObama, a known obama ball washer, dope smoker PTSD whilst falling off a ladder ass-pirate, and their alter ego Leroy Beaner, all on the wrong side of the equation. Speaks volumes about the dangers of: 1. Inbreeding 2. dope-smokers 3. homos
Man, the insanity on the left is truly amazing. I can't believe this thread is still going. I can't believe people honestly think this Russian nothingburger is relevant. I can't believe anyone cares a rat's ass about the TV news, either, though, but apparently they still do, despite the manifest proof that TV news is infotainment at best and not real news.
I can't believe so many Americans are so stupid, illogical, uninformed, and politically vindictive, but the evidence is right there for all to see. Jeff and Stargazer, y'all are truly delusional. You guys wouldn't have survived the first week of law school.
Guess I'll check back and see what nonsense is being spouted here in a couple more weeks. Once every 2 weeks is about all I need . Sorta like watching a soap opera... nothing changes in a hurry.
Douche gazer claims to be a lawyer " allegedly "... He stated trumps lawyer Jay Sekulow is a third rate lawyer... Funny coming from a guy who rents inmates for who knows what...
What's truly funny is the factoid that Jefe', RJ, LB, Walt etc not only lost in November, but have since lost to Putin. He has been beating the liberals like the red headed step-children they are ever since. Even funnier is the fact that these mental midgets have nary a clue who is handing down those beatings.
The idea that Putin - the ex KGB Colonel - might be playing the Dems and taking great joy in creating as much turmoil in the uS as possible escapes them. We know the Clintons took all kinds of cash from various Russians. That's enough dirt on HRC to keep Putin smiling. Now that the Dems are in such a tizzy, he must have a perpetual woody watching them jump up and down screaming "Russia! Russia!".
Jorge, that was mean of you to post that. You could traumatize JeffO with such facts. Keep that up and you will have to anwswer to the Human Rights Commission. Oh, wait, Hillary lost, so we don't have a Human Rights Commission to jail dissident Conservatives. Alright then, carry on!
Yeah well I hate the SOB and I don't use the word HATE hap-hazardly. He has a long history here of disparaging the military from way back and I've loathed him ever since.
This will be some crazy [bleep] coming down the pike at us fellers. Y'all will have a choice to make. Choose wisely.
You haven't BEEN right yet.Alternate reality seems to be home, for anti Trumpers. First, you make an accusation, based on your feelings. THEN, you cherry pick snippets that only support that accusation, in your own mind. Bizarre.
Now D.C. is abuzz that Mr. Trump will force out Sessions & Rubenstien so as to do an AG recess appointment, so as to avoid the need for Senste approval.
But he's innocent. I mean, it's NOT that Mueller et al have got his crew by the short hairs; that'd be a ridiculous conclusion here. That's just those delusional Democrats and their alternative reality. Mmm hmm. That's the ticket.
I'll say one thing for this clown- he's entertaining! He may suck major ass at being POTUS, but being scandalously entertaining in a Kardashian kind of way is something he's GREAT at. Too bad that doesn't translate to being even a competatnt POTUS.
He's screwed either way but if he goes after Mueller it'll happen even faster. Unlike the 35% of America with their head up Putin's ass, some Republicans have a spine... and some patriotism. But that won't stop Clown Shoes from going after Mueller anyway. He's like a moth to the flame.
Mueller = decorated combat Marine who served with honor and earned a Bronze Star and a Purple Heart then served under POTUS's of both parties with distinction. Trump = lying sack of draft-dodging shït who serves only his own orange self. I'll take Mueller. Do as you see fit on this one.
And yeah, I've been proven right on all this.... and that will only continue in the coming weeks/months (he doesn't have years). Read it and weep fellas.
Now D.C. is abuzz that Mr. Trump will force out Sessions & Rubenstien so as to do an AG recess appointment, so as to avoid the need for Senste approval.
But he's innocent. I mean, it's NOT that Mueller et al have got his crew by the short hairs; that'd be a ridiculous conclusion here. That's just those delusional Democrats and their alternative reality. Mmm hmm. That's the ticket.
I'll say one thing for this clown- he's entertaining! He may suck major ass at being POTUS, but being scandalously entertaining in a Kardashian kind of way is something he's GREAT at. Too bad that doesn't translate to being even a competatnt POTUS.
He's screwed either way but if he goes after Mueller it'll happen even faster. Unlike the 35% of America with their head up Putin's ass, some Republicans have a spine... and some patriotism. But that won't stop Clown Shoes. He's like a moth to the flame.
And yeah, I've been proven right on all this.... and that will only continue in the coming weeks/months (he doesn't have years). Read it and weep fellas.
The only thing proven is you're a dolt and should keep your pie hole buttoned or full of cock what ever it takes to make the crap stop spewing from it
Now D.C. is abuzz that Mr. Trump will force out Sessions & Rubenstien so as to do an AG recess appointment, so as to avoid the need for Senste approval.
Sounds like there won't be any recess appointments.
Senators are planning to continue procedural moves to prevent the Senate from formally adjourning for recess next month in order to prevent President Donald Trump from making recess appointments, when the chamber eventually adjourns through the Labor Day weekend.
Using the threat of a filibuster, Democrats plan to force the Senate to hold pro forma sessions — a practice both parties have carried out to block recess appointments from presidents of opposite party, Democratic and Republican aides say.
Recess appointments let a president install nominees who normally must be confirmed by the Senate; their terms would run through the end of the "next session" of the Senate, but the "pro forma" sessions essentially means the Senate is never in recess.
While Republicans control the Senate now, the only way they can formally adjourn -- which would set up a period when recess appointments are allowable -- is to pass an adjournment resolution. The problem is that Democrats can filibuster that resolution, which they would do to prevent Trump from making recess appointments.
If I'm not mistaken, this also prevents a pocket veto of the Russian sanctions bill. So he'll have to either sign it or veto it. That's going to be interesting.
And yeah, I've been proven right on all this.... and that will only continue in the coming weeks/months (he doesn't have years). Read it and weep fellas.
Say what? What alternate Universe do you live in? Water runs uphill there, I suppose.
And yeah, I've been proven right on all this.... and that will only continue in the coming weeks/months (he doesn't have years). Read it and weep fellas.
Say what? What alternate Universe do you live in? Water runs uphill there, I suppose.
Jeff can't name one political prediction he's been right about since 2015 at least. Not a one.
And yeah, I've been proven right on all this.... and that will only continue in the coming weeks/months (he doesn't have years). Read it and weep fellas.
Say what? What alternate Universe do you live in? Water runs uphill there, I suppose.
Jeff can't name one political prediction he's been right about since 2015 at least. Not a one.
He was right about Matt Flynn..............Bwahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Now D.C. is abuzz that Mr. Trump will force out Sessions & Rubenstien so as to do an AG recess appointment, so as to avoid the need for Senste approval.
But he's innocent. I mean, it's NOT that Mueller et al have got his crew by the short hairs; that'd be a ridiculous conclusion here. That's just those delusional Democrats and their alternative reality. Mmm hmm. That's the ticket.
I'll say one thing for this clown- he's entertaining! He may suck major ass at being POTUS, but being scandalously entertaining in a Kardashian kind of way is something he's GREAT at. Too bad that doesn't translate to being even a competatnt POTUS.
He's screwed either way but if he goes after Mueller it'll happen even faster. Unlike the 35% of America with their head up Putin's ass, some Republicans have a spine... and some patriotism. But that won't stop Clown Shoes from going after Mueller anyway. He's like a moth to the flame.
Mueller = decorated combat Marine who served with honor and earned a Bronze Star and a Purple Heart then served under POTUS's of both parties with distinction. Trump = lying sack of draft-dodging shït who serves only his own orange self. I'll take Mueller. Do as you see fit on this one.
And yeah, I've been proven right on all this.... and that will only continue in the coming weeks/months (he doesn't have years). Read it and weep fellas.
Lay off the crack or whatever current drug you're doing because it's sent you to an alternate reality. On second thought, go ahead and keep doing it and maybe it will send you to the nuthouse where you belong.
Now D.C. is abuzz that Mr. Trump will force out Sessions & Rubenstien so as to do an AG recess appointment, so as to avoid the need for Senste approval.
But he's innocent. I mean, it's NOT that Mueller et al have got his crew by the short hairs; that'd be a ridiculous conclusion here. That's just those delusional Democrats and their alternative reality. Mmm hmm. That's the ticket.
I'll say one thing for this clown- he's entertaining! He may suck major ass at being POTUS, but being scandalously entertaining in a Kardashian kind of way is something he's GREAT at. Too bad that doesn't translate to being even a competatnt POTUS.
He's screwed either way but if he goes after Mueller it'll happen even faster. Unlike the 35% of America with their head up Putin's ass, some Republicans have a spine... and some patriotism. But that won't stop Clown Shoes from going after Mueller anyway. He's like a moth to the flame.
Mueller = decorated combat Marine who served with honor and earned a Bronze Star and a Purple Heart then served under POTUS's of both parties with distinction. Trump = lying sack of draft-dodging shït who serves only his own orange self. I'll take Mueller. Do as you see fit on this one.
And yeah, I've been proven right on all this.... and that will only continue in the coming weeks/months (he doesn't have years). Read it and weep fellas.
Jeff,
Have you made any predictions since the election season began in 2015 that proved to be accurate? Just curious if any of your political insight proved to be correct?
Since my goal is to keep my political posts confined to this subject, I'll refrain from commenting on the non-chaos is the West Wing other than to say "wow" and that I wish Kelly well in his quest to impose some discipline.
I must also make the general comment that for those of us, like myself, who are/were intrigued by some of Mr. Trump's policy ideas, it's just dismaying that we are getting Bad Trump, the one we feared we'd get. He has not risen to the occasion; au contrair.
But it ain't gonna matter anyway. He is just such an IDIOT about the Russia issue. As I've said, I think it's entirely possible that he himself did not collude. Conversely, to anyone with a brain, it's basically impossible to conclude that his campaign did NOT collude; they did, and they're gonna get popped for it here relatively soon. I mean popped as in people will go to jail. That will be what it is but far more pertinent are Mr. Trump's actions, such as this:
jorge, how do you explain all these forgotten meetings with Russians that are suddenly remembers, false statements about who was there, what as discussed?
Rationally, really all this is not just smoke and mirrors?
I know, you will instead launch vindictives at me, rather than explaining how all the Trump satellites are innocent. It's the 24 hr way. But it doesn't make your guy, or you, look very credible.
Actually, it's invective, and I chortle at the proverbial pot v kettle color issue, but I digress. First, none of these meetings (real or imaginary) rise to any level of criminal actions (but don't take my word for it, rather rely on such luminaries as Dershowitz and Turley). Second, throughout our history, prospective presidential staffs have met with foreign entities in order to mitigate a smooth transition, particularly when a traitorous government (like Obama's) is getting ready to go. Lastly, every individual in a position to make the call, from Obama himself back in October, to the heads of the CIA, DIA, NSA, FBI and every Congressional panel, have ALL said "there is no evidence of collusion" and of course the most important of all, to what end? Even the democrats (off camera of course) admit this is all for political theater and like many RINOs just to torpedo Trump. It's obvious, then again, I actually have my own intellect and actually look at the facts. BTW, a search of this place will show I was VERY anti-Trump from the start, until I found out for myself.
they're gonna get popped for it here relatively soon.
You've been saying soon for the last 4 months, fuggin dunce. I would have thought you'd have gotten tired of wearing that pointy hat all through Hi-Skool but instead you've just gotten used to it.
"And yeah, I've been proven right on all this.... and that will only continue in the coming weeks/months (he doesn't have years). Read it and weep fellas. "
I've been SAYING, dunce, that it'll be shown to have occurred by the '18 midterms. Still saying that. Care to bet? Of course you don't. You know I'm right. You all do. Just too weak to admit it. Yet.
That said, I suspect it'll come to a head far sooner. And besides, dunce, every inexorable step this has moved has been towards my rightness and your wrongness. So shove that pointy hat where the orange light of Trump don't shine, k? Thanks bro!
If true, this is a big deal. One more nail in the obstruction coffin, or at least, one more cloud of billowing smoke:
I've been SAYING, dunce, that it'll be shown to have occurred by the '18 midterms. Still saying that. Care to bet? Of course you don't. You know I'm right. You all do. Just too weak to admit it. Yet.
That said, I suspect it'll come to a head far sooner. And besides, dunce, every inexorable step this has moved has been towards my rightness and your wrongness. So shove that pointy hat where the orange light of Trump don't shine, k? Thanks bro!
If true, this is a big deal. One more nail in the obstruction coffin, or at least, one more cloud of billowing smoke:
I've been SAYING, dunce, that it'll be shown to have occurred by the '18 midterms. Still saying that. Care to bet? Of course you don't. You know I'm right. You all do. Just too weak to admit it. Yet.
That said, I suspect it'll come to a head far sooner. And besides, dunce, every inexorable step this has moved has been towards my rightness and your wrongness. So shove that pointy hat where the orange light of Trump don't shine, k? Thanks bro!
If true, this is a big deal. One more nail in the obstruction coffin, or at least, one more cloud of billowing smoke:
"I've been SAYING, dunce, that it'll be shown to have occurred by the '18 midterms. Still saying that. Care to bet? Of course you don't. You know I'm right. You all do. Just too weak to admit it. Yet. "
NO, YOU SAID:
"And yeah, I've been proven right on all this...."
I've been SAYING, dunce, that it'll be shown to have occurred by the '18 midterms. Still saying that. Care to bet? Of course you don't. You know I'm right. You all do. Just too weak to admit it. Yet.
That said, I suspect it'll come to a head far sooner. And besides, dunce, every inexorable step this has moved has been towards my rightness and your wrongness. So shove that pointy hat where the orange light of Trump don't shine, k? Thanks bro!
If true, this is a big deal. One more nail in the obstruction coffin, or at least, one more cloud of billowing smoke:
I've been SAYING, dunce, that it'll be shown to have occurred by the '18 midterms. Still saying that. Care to bet? Of course you don't. You know I'm right. You all do. Just too weak to admit it. Yet.
That said, I suspect it'll come to a head far sooner. And besides, dunce, every inexorable step this has moved has been towards my rightness and your wrongness. So shove that pointy hat where the orange light of Trump don't shine, k? Thanks bro!
If true, this is a big deal. One more nail in the obstruction coffin, or at least, one more cloud of billowing smoke:
PS: so why do you guys think the Congress voted like 98% for the sanctions bill?
I'll help your addled partisan selves: it's because at this point they "know things" that we aren't yet fully privy to.
Big [bleep] HINT
You are eat up with the dumbass.
Nobody is saying that Russia wasn't meddling. Sure they were... UNDER OBAMA. And he let them.
When have Russian spooks not meddled?
It sure doesn't mean Trump was involved.
Not only did Obama let them without repercussion, he didn't take action because he didn't want to appear to throw the election to Trump. Remember, EVERYONE thought Hillary was going to win, it was a sure thing.
And Obummer was on the receiving end of the meddling when he told the Russian ambassador on a hot mic "Tell Vladimir I'll have more flexibility after my election." There's collusion!
The only sure thing is that Jell0 is eaten up with a severe case of congenital dumbass.
Jell0, explain how it is in your mind that if a fellow enters the race for potus his kids lose their 1A. I know you cant deduce what im getting at so I will tell you. Trumps relatives are legally allowed to talk to people, even if those people are in or from another country.
You have to give JellO some much needed credit. He's learned a new word. Dunce.
On the flip side, Saul Alinsky digs his fingernails into his coffin every time JellO posts here. The continual effort must be grating severely on his skeleton
You have to give JellO some much needed credit. He's learned a new word. Dunce.
He may have learned of the word but I'm not to sure he has learned it's meaning. I have faith he'll get there.............Bwahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
AND he has a lot of company. This is what we have to deal with. There can be no reasoning, in the absence of reason. Even if there was "collusion", that's not illegal. What the heck do you charge Trump with? Beating Hillary? As the "investigation" proceeds, it is the Democrats, Obama and Clinton, among many more, that are looking very dirty indeed.
I am afraid that the way he is posting about this non-crime he might never get it.
What i wonder is this:What will happen to his sanity when NOTHING about talking to the scary russians is/was illegal?
he will need stronger meds for sure.
Yup. Here we sit, having to endure Hillary and the whole Obama gang walking free. It's obvious crimes were comitted. "Our side" simply refuses to make anything of it. It is a travesty.
This, again from those in a position (unlike ANY of us here) to know details about Mueller's investigation. Personally I think this is a great idea. As should y'all, right? You were the same people applauding Wiki for keeping things transparent- I was too- so this strikes me as a mere extension of that.
But to return to the fray... and please note, I am not up here on this forum denigrating Trump or arguing about his obvious mental instability or all the other wack shït he's trying to do, I'm simply staying on topic with the Comey firing and the fallout from that... but to get back to that, man oh man am I turning out to have been right, and boy oh boy are some of you gonna be shining my boots.
As a reminder, my position is simply that he and/or his campaign will be shown (pretty much have been shown, at this point) to have colluded knowingly with Russia before the '18 midterms, which I have been, and remain willing to, place on-the-record equitable bets about. PM me if interested; I'm not giving this thread much attention anymore now that it's becoming clear a) I'm right and that b) most here are too indoctrinated and partisan to admit it even in the glaring light of.... reality. Well, you get to own that one going forward, not me. And that amuses me no end.
I am afraid that the way he is posting about this non-crime he might never get it.
What i wonder is this:What will happen to his sanity when NOTHING about talking to the scary russians is/was illegal?
he will need stronger meds for sure.
Just listen to how your position has changed. A couple months ago I was a nutjob for saying there was collusion. Now you've morphed to essentially admitting it but NOW, suddenly, the "Right" in America are the DEFENDERS of the idea that to get in bed with Russian intelligence to affect an election is no big deal, and that the resulting POTUS ain't tainted.
That is, just to be blunt as I can be here, SHAMEFUL.
And you will own this if you keep going down this path, guys. You don't get to walk it back. You choose to defend that behavior as ok, then you have lost all credibility as patriots. Forever. In print. Searchable. Right here. Choose wisely my friends. The lying POS does not rate such fealty.
I am afraid that the way he is posting about this non-crime he might never get it.
What i wonder is this:What will happen to his sanity when NOTHING about talking to the scary russians is/was illegal?
he will need stronger meds for sure.
Just listen to how your position has changed. A couple months ago I was a nutjob for saying there was collusion. Now you've morphed to essentially admitting it but NOW, suddenly, the "Right" in America are the DEFENDERS of the idea that to get in bed with Russian intelligence to affect an election is no big deal, and that the resulting POTUS ain't tainted.
That is, just to be blunt as I can be here, SHAMEFUL.
And you will own this if you keep going down this path, guys. You don't get to walk it back. You choose to defend that behavior as ok, then you have lost all credibility as patriots. Forever. In print. Searchable. Right here. Choose wisely my friends. The lying POS does not rate such fealty.
This, again from those in a position (unlike ANY of us here) to know details about Mueller's investigation. Personally I think this is a great idea. As should y'all, right? You were the same people applauding Wiki for keeping things transparent- I was too- so this strikes me as a mere extension of that.
But to return to the fray... and please note, I am not up here on this forum denigrating Trump or arguing about his obvious mental instability or all the other wack shït he's trying to do, I'm simply staying on topic with the Comey firing and the fallout from that... but to get back to that, man oh man am I turning out to have been right, and boy oh boy are some of you gonna be shining my boots.
As a reminder, my position is simply that he and/or his campaign will be shown (pretty much have been shown, at this point) to have colluded knowingly with Russia before the '18 midterms, which I have been, and remain willing to, place on-the-record equitable bets about. PM me if interested; I'm not giving this thread much attention anymore now that it's becoming clear a) I'm right and that b) most here are too indoctrinated and partisan to admit it even in the glaring light of.... reality. Well, you get to own that one going forward, not me. And that amuses me no end.
You are dumber than a bag of hammers and prove it every time you post. Nothing you've said has come to fruition yet in your feeble little mind you have it all figured out.
and please note, I am not up here on this forum denigrating Trump or arguing about his obvious mental instability or all the other wack shït he's trying to do,
Nope, no denigrating going on here..........I was wrong about you Jeff, you're not a Dunce, you're a Delusional Dunce. I apologize profusely for my mistake.
Sure jell0, Mueller, the goofball who thought James Rosen was a foreign subversive and investigated him as a criminal is probably innocent of malevolent design. Now, get your cartoon book and go tell your mom shes calling you.
and please note, I am not up here on this forum denigrating Trump or arguing about his obvious mental instability or all the other wack shït he's trying to do,
Nope, no denigrating going on here..........I was wrong about you Jeff, you're not a Dunce, you're a Delusional Dunce. I apologize profusely for my mistake.
One thing about it, jell0 is not unstable. He sings the same song even when consistently proven stupid and wrong.
Per my stated intent I'm not gonna delve into Trump's latest incidence(s) of stepping on his own dick, other than to say I'm going to miss the entertainment value (MadMooner sure nailed it!) this clown provides. It'll be a letdown when Mueller takes him down.
He's got himself thoroughly boxed in with the Norks. They maneuvered him into a position where he effectively now can't do ANYTHING, while they will simply continue to move their missile program forward. Good JOB, tough guy (sic)! That said... ain't like I (or anyone else) has a viable solution.
Hey Jeff, good to see you back. Do you have any really good stock picks for recent IPOs...any real winners? I'm working on a project with one of my kids to teach him about short sales, and would like a positive outcome.
Glad Jeff found something to ease his depression. It's been tough the last few weeks what with this Russia stuff fizzling out and the NORKS backing down. I mean the retiring CIA Station Chief in Moscow said he had absolutely nothing on collusion and you know, that's the guy who really knows what Putin is up to, not Wolf Blitzer.
Why is it that Kim back down and China is now on board with pressuring this idiot? Sure isn't because he's afraid of Elizabeth Warren or that Bernie Sanders called Beijing, is it?
The Dow is just off its record high, and has climbed basically continuously since November.
Well, Jeff? Prozac kicking in? Good. I worry about your mental state from time to time. Mental illness is a tough thing to battle through. You have my best wishes in your battle.
Well, Jeff? Prozac kicking in? Good. I worry about your mental state from time to time. Mental illness is a tough thing to battle through. You have my best wishes in your battle.
He cant have a mental state, Hat. He isnt mental. Hes like a parrot, which learned to mimick a mocking bird.
Napolitano is preparing the ground here fellas. Big storm is coming. Consider yourselves prepared.
Clearly there was high-level collusion going on and that will be amply demonstrated soon enough. To my point, certainly before the '18 midterms. Whether Big T was complicit remains to be seen.
The only people more inept than Trump's campaign team are is legal team. It is scary how incompetent his lawyers have been so far. He's been through a bunch of them so far and still hasn't found one worth the money he's paying them.
The only people more inept than Trump's campaign team are is legal team. It is scary how incompetent his lawyers have been so far. He's been through a bunch of them so far and still hasn't found one worth the money he's paying them.
Really, how about you list the names of this bunch he has gone through.
The only people more inept than Trump's campaign team are is legal team. It is scary how incompetent his lawyers have been so far. He's been through a bunch of them so far and still hasn't found one worth the money he's paying them.
Really, how about you list the names of this bunch he has gone through.
Let's start with the assclown known as Marc Kasowitz. That guys lasted about a week before he was fired for sending obscene emails to women unknown to him while in a drunken rage. It's been reported that Kasowitz is a a known drunk. This is the guy the president put his faith in.
It's hitting the fan now, Manafort is as good as dead...his crooked azz chiit caught up with him, all while still the Campaign Chairman.
Manafort is toast. Unless Trump pardons him he will spend the rest of his life in jail. They have him dead to rights.
Mr.T won't be able to pardon Manafort...NY will pull a state prosecution, which can't be pardoned.
Well then Manafort's only option is to serve Trump up on a silver platter to Mueller. Unless he'd prefer life in prison.
Manafort's guilt or crimes, don't necessarily make Trump an accomplice or guilty of anything...just that Manafort is in very deep chiit. They have recordings of Manafort/Trump speaking on a phone calls, those recordings could be completely void of any wrong doing on Mr.T's part...time will of course tell.
The only people more inept than Trump's campaign team are is legal team. It is scary how incompetent his lawyers have been so far. He's been through a bunch of them so far and still hasn't found one worth the money he's paying them.
Really, how about you list the names of this bunch he has gone through.
Let's start with the assclown known as Marc Kasowitz. That guys lasted about a week before he was fired for sending obscene emails to women unknown to him while in a drunken rage. It's been reported that Kasowitz is a a known drunk. This is the guy the president put his faith in.
One makes a bunch?
Is being a pervert the same as being incompetent?
I guess your guy Slick Willy was not only a rapist, but incompetent as well.
It's hitting the fan now, Manafort is as good as dead...his crooked azz chiit caught up with him, all while still the Campaign Chairman.
Manafort is toast. Unless Trump pardons him he will spend the rest of his life in jail. They have him dead to rights.
Mr.T won't be able to pardon Manafort...NY will pull a state prosecution, which can't be pardoned.
What's the charge?
They are still squeezing his head, there have been no official charges leveled yet...but it will be a long list based on newly released findings.
We'll know what he's being charged with soon. He's been told he will be indicted. Flynn will be indicted as well. It remains to be seen if Kushner will be indicted also. He might be for the SF-86 violations that have been public knowledge for months.
None of this means Trump will be impeached, though. If the republicans refuse to impeach there is nothing anyone can do about it. It makes the 2018 midterm elections all the more important.
There is no open evidence Manafort did anything. The threat is an attempt to flip him that will fail.
The SP is just a Democrap tool and if he ignores Rice, Hillary and Lynch, there will be another appointed who will not.
Hopefully Sessions will go and be replaces with Rudy or Christie. Then the fur will fly !
Remember the plan:
1. Trump is impeached but not convicted. Before the Senate votes he resigns. 2. Pence becomes President. 3. Pence selects Trump as his VP 4. Pence resigns. 5. Trump becomes President. 6. Trump selects Pence as his VP
You RINOs and Democraps can then try a Civil war. Don't think it would turn out well.
The only people more inept than Trump's campaign team are is legal team. It is scary how incompetent his lawyers have been so far. He's been through a bunch of them so far and still hasn't found one worth the money he's paying them.
Really, how about you list the names of this bunch he has gone through.
Let's start with the assclown known as Marc Kasowitz. That guys lasted about a week before he was fired for sending obscene emails to women unknown to him while in a drunken rage. It's been reported that Kasowitz is a a known drunk. This is the guy the president put his faith in.
One makes a bunch?
Is being a pervert the same as being incompetent?
I guess your guy Slick Willy was not only a rapist, but incompetent as well.
I voted against Bill Clinton twice. And with HIllary that makes three times I voted against a Clinton.
....and heads exploded! [except rollin jeffo or whichever other troll it is, solely due to being totally brainless]
Remember the plan:
1. Trump is impeached but not convicted. Before the Senate votes he resigns. 2. Pence becomes President. 3. Pence selects Trump as his VP 4. Pence resigns. 5. Trump becomes President. 6. Trump selects Pence as his VP
You RINOs and Democraps can then try a Civil war. Don't think it would turn out well.
Trump is already distancing himself from Manafort. Ty Cobb, Trump's attorney, made an extremely negative comment about Manafort today. He's basically accusing him of going rogue. Doesn't look like there will be any pardons in Manafort's future.
I think Manafort was pulling BS behind Mr.T's back, to pay off his high debt...figured he'd use his advantage being close to the POTUS to advance his options....azzhole
There was campaign collusion; I was right, y'all were wrong (and were [bleep] about it). But we will wait for official confirmation before we address that little detail. Teabagging can wait. I'm a patient man.
Of far more interest to me, since this one is in the bag, is whether Trump himself directed or was aware of this. I've gone both ways with my thoughts on that. I've come back around to thinking he was aware and likely did provide some guidance to his guilty-as-sin underlings... it fits his behavior patterns and general egomaniacal arrogance towards limits on his behavior. But we'll see. As I've also gone to great lengths to make clear, IF he did not know a thing about this- which is possible- then I really hope this does NOT spin into an obstruction case; unless there's more to that that we do not yet know.
But if anyone still thinks there's no collusion between Russia and the Trump campaign you need to come back to planet Earth.
There was campaign collusion; I was right, y'all were wrong (and were [bleep] about it). But we will wait for official confirmation before we address that little detail. Teabagging can wait. I'm a patient man.
Of far more interest to me, since this one is in the bag, is whether Trump himself directed or was aware of this. I've gone both ways with my thoughts on that. I've come back around to thinking he was aware and likely did provide some guidance to his guilty-as-sin underlings... it fits his behavior patterns and general egomaniacal arrogance towards limits on his behavior. But we'll see. As I've also gone to great lengths to make clear, IF he did not know a thing about this- which is possible- then I really hope this does NOT spin into an obstruction case; unless there's more to that that we do not yet know.
But if anyone still thinks there's no collusion between Russia and the Trump campaign you need to come back to planet Earth.
LOL!! Once again JellO has resurrected himself to stretch his dick farther than it actually reaches. 'Course he has to continually modify his mantra to match the latest speculation.
I hope the Leftist apologists read the blurp out today about how Trump is completely dismantling Obama's legacy quite thoroughly. Without much GOP help, and only 9 months into his FIRST term. Ha!
in a more perfect world, all the demo's need turning out from congress. in the same perfect world, a ton of incumbent repubs need turning out, and replaced by True Conservatives. i hope some if not all of that objective is reached in 2018, and then in 2020 even more of the goal is achieved.
Anybody check in on Jeffy? I'm kind of worried about him. Maybe someone who lives in his neck o' the woods should stop by. But given that Jeff loves big government, probably better if the authorities stop by instead. I mean pot garden, and by default illegal firearms aside what would be the harm? I'd feel better knowing he's alright.
OK, for us working stiffs, whats new and actually relevant? Trump/ Russia?
Keep it skinny, and maybe even factual if possible.
Well, the collusion thing is as real as ever. Except it now involves a certain dossier (you may recall from last Oct/Nov) and a Uranium deal that spanned many years. Hopes are that the guilty will need to pay (perfect world) or at the very least STFU and GTFO (pragmatic version).
OK, for us working stiffs, whats new and actually relevant? Trump/ Russia?
Keep it skinny, and maybe even factual if possible.
The dossier that spurred the allegations and investigations into Trump's collusion with Russia was produced by a non-federal entity funded by political opponents of Trump.
It was an unvetted POS document that said what the client wanted said.
It's been cracking me up to imagine the gyrations here as the right-wing "news" outlets have attempted to draw all manner of false equivalencies in an effort to.... well, I'll let it go at that.
And hey, I despise Hillary Clinton; I'm all for going after her hard for any LEGITIMATE illegal acts she might have made.
But that has squat to do with whether Trump and/or members of his campaign colluded with our chief global adversary to affect the election. Zero. Don't forget that, fellas. Mueller ain't gonna. If there was collusion, we need to know, and people need to pay. If not, we need to know that too for all the obvious reasons to include clearing that cloud from around Big Orange. And feeding me a big ol' [bleep] sandwich. Hint: not losing much sleep over here.
On that note I thought this summed things up astutely.
It's going to be interesting to see who is the first to be charged, sounds like Monday. This whole farce of a presidency has been hugely amusing to this point, I gotta give it that, and it only gets better from here in terms of sheer political theater. I say bring it on. If our federal .gov is going to be worse than useless they might as well be amusing.
All the best from sunny Oregon, my campfire friends, and I look forward to grinding some of your schnozzles in all this once I'm officially proven right. But NICELY. Always nicely. How I roll, yo.
Try this little tidbit in your hash pipe and smoke it.
I imagine the favorite music of the Left right now is "Panic at the Disco". None of this is going their way.
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October 29, 2017 Implausible Deniability By Clarice Feldman The aftermath of the 2016 election has revealed the criminality of the Democrats, the perfidy of the Deep State, the corruption of the press, and the bought and paid for motives of the scribblers in the conservative pundit class. And Trump won despite all that.
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The dossier was designed to dig up “dirt” on Trump and his associates, but, more to the point, it was clearly intended from the start to do so by manufacturing and nurturing a Russian angle. It sought to discredit Donald Trump and to deceive the public, which suggests that Trump has been right all along regarding something like a conspiracy against him which included the active participation of the FBI and possibly other national security agencies.
The president also comes across as credible vis-à-vis his critics because of what has become evident since the dossier was surfaced. The clearly politically motivated multiple investigations carried out so far in which no rock has been unturned have come up with absolutely nothing, either in the form of criminal charges or in terms of actual collusion with a foreign government. And, one might add, there has been little in the way of evidence to sustain the charge that Russia sought to influence the election and might even have succeeded in doing so. But there is one thing new that we do know now: Russiagate began within the Clinton Campaign headquarters.
Trey Gowdy tweeted: “Did FBI rely on a document that looks like the National Enquirer prepared it?” Looks that way. Andrew McCarthy at National Review tweets “Trump DOJ should declassify & disclose FISA app to show what representations were made to court about source of dossier claims.”
Piers Morgan gives 10 reasons JeffO will be screaming until 2024. (and when Trump leaves office after 8 years, then he'll claim his victory over Trump and us.Ha!)
1) He’s the most resilient, uncompromising man in America. Love him or loathe him, Trump hasn’t changed or pivoted one iota from the candidate who ran for office.
2) Trump’s enemies are bailing out from the fight like conscientious objectors in the war. Yesterday, two Senators, Bob Corker and Jeff Flake made grandiose media-grabbing attacks on the President, effectively branding him a lying useless goon. Both are standing down, and in (Snow) Flake’s case, he’s only doing so because he knows he’s going to get an absolute drubbing in the next election.
3) Hollywood’s liberal elite, Trump’s most vociferous, influential and vicious opponents, have exposed themselves to be a bunch of shocking hypocrites whose high moral and ethical plinth now lies in a pile of ruins.
4) The Democrats don’t have anyone yet who can run against Trump and actually beat him. Say what you like about the man but he’s proven himself to be a formidably fierce political campaigner who wipes away opponents with the flick of a mocking ‘Low Energy Jeb’ nickname switch.
5) Hillary Clinton’s still hanging around like a malodorous failure to remind everyone on a daily basis of the world’s biggest and most shocking political defeat. Her global loser tour, in which she continues to blame everyone but herself, is a vote-destroying disaster for the Democrats.
6) Trump’s doing very well with the crucial election-deciding issue: the economy. As Reagan and Clinton proved, when an incumbent president runs with a strengthening economy behind him, he’s pretty much unbeatable.
7) His base is rock solid. The polls suggest everyone who voted for Trump last time would do so again.
8) On the foreign stage, far from being the disaster that Corker and Flake claim, I’d argue that Trump’s proven himself to be rather effective in re-establishing America’s status as the world’s No1 superpower. 9) Trump’s Twitter feed continues to dominate the world’s news agenda.
10) Trump’s the incumbent president and historically, 70% of those who run again get re-elected.
Because that’s when, as things stand, I predict Donald J. Trump will be re-elected President of the United States.
The Clintons are all about themselves. They are greedy corrupt criminals but they have been open about it. The press has protected them and the democrat party will die fighting for them. The republicans have sheepishly allowed them to create an empire for themselves. The democrat party has devolved over the years and are openly showing us what they are. Things are getting sticky because the republican establishment has devolved as well. No longer can they follow the democrat lead happily voting against stuff they know well has no chance of becoming law. When they have the chance to actually do what they previously voted for they reveal their existence to be a lie all along.
Jeff Sessions would not have been my pick for that position. It is a highly visible contentious position. He was a member of the establishment and having been one of the first to jump on the Trump train he has had to recuse himself from the first attack of the presidency. The democrats and never Trumpers will stop at nothing they think will bring his presidency to an end. Make no mistake this is a fight to the death for power and those that are used to wielding it will not relinquish easily.
To my mind Trump would have done well to learn from Obama the art of keeping your enemies off balance. I would have put a dogged fighter in the justice department. All of Obama's appointees will have to be unapologetically removed from position by any means possible and replaced. Literally decades of liberal appointees have burrowed into place and are able to wreck havoc on the country and any administration that does not hold their view of governance.
Trump has made some good appointments but is having a hard time getting them through the senate. Even some of his own party are holding hostage some appointments to the judicial for monetary reward. This is inexcusable. He has also reversed some of obama's executive orders but there remains a mountain of things to be done. We didn't suddenly wake up in this [bleep] storm, it took years to build to this point and it won't get resolved any time soon. It will take a lot of work starting with the electorate and that is us.
It will have no chance of getting better until enough people in each state take ownership of the country and retire the buffoons that have become entrenched in power and replace them with people that are willing to follow the oath of office they all take when elected. We are going to have a monumental task of educating our fellow voters to vote with the constitutions original intent in mind instead of the democrats view of abandoning it. The government has grown exponentially over the years and it must be cut down to size. It will be an awful lot of resistance from those nursing the tit but it must be done.
Good grief. Bloomberg is usually so pro Trump...the Manafort deal didn't show collusion, because there wasn't collusion. The whole idea was from the Clinton manufactured dossier.
There is zero in any of this linked to Trump or Russian collusion. All you have is one dude who didn't reveal everything to the FBI and another with some shady business deals that just might be illegal. How in the phouc does any of this equal Trump-collusion-Putin? Jorge will piss on your grave before Meuller brings down Trump because he has nothing.
You crowing about this is like the Brits returning from Dunkirk and claiming total victory after getting their ass handed to them by Hans Gudarian. Jeez.
So, abridged version. Nearly year long investigation targeted at destroying our president has finally netted a fish (of sorts). That fish is a political double agent whose slimy career spanned several administrations. Democrats, Republicans, he worked with and for his own benefit and all gladly took on his services. But I ask this; how many previous administrations said "YOUR FIRED" to the piece of swamp scum?
So, you admit feeling that Hillarys illegal activities and personal illegal pay for play for personal enrichment and to the detriment of national security (commonly referred to as treason) is less important than fairytail concieved legal Russian collusion dreamed up and illegaly paid for by Hillary and the DNC to slander a political opponent and illegally subvert the democratic process. You really are a special case, arent you.
Its rare to see someone, regardless of IQ, perform such a public character assassination of ones self.
One of the greatest legal minds in the country, and a democrat, Alan Gershowitz, explained on Fox today that Mueller has nothing on Trump and will never have anything on him re Russian Collusion because there was none, and that Mueller is trying to blackmail Manafort into fingering Trump over something. He has on previous occasions pontificated on the fact that if Trump and Putin had colluded it would not have been illegal.
Of course, you must remember, pissants make molehills out to be mountains, dont you?
One of the greatest legal minds in the country, and a democrat, Alan Gershowitz, explained on Fox today that Mueller has nothing on Trump and will never have anything on him re Russian Collusion because there was none, and that Mueller is trying to blackmail Manafort into fingering Trump over something. He has on previous occasions pontificated on the fact that if Trump and Putin had colluded it would not have been illegal.
Of course, you must remember, pissants make molehills out to be mountains, dont you?
One of the greatest legal minds in the country, and a democrat, Alan Gershowitz, explained on Fox today that Mueller has nothing on Trump and will never have anything on him re Russian Collusion because there was none, and that Mueller is trying to blackmail Manafort into fingering Trump over something. He has on previous occasions pontificated on the fact that if Trump and Putin had colluded it would not have been illegal.
Of course, you must remember, pissants make molehills out to be mountains, dont you?
"... Mueller has nothing on Trump and will never have anything on him re Russian Collusion because there was none,"
I don't believe that there is much (if anything) on Trump, but there appears to be a smoking gun pointed at the Trump Campaign. Underlings often take actions to enhance the success of the boss without his knowledge. It is certainly possible that members of the campaign staff DID try to gain an advantage by colluding with the Russians without Trump's approval or knowledge. Only time will tell.
One of the greatest legal minds in the country, and a democrat, Alan Gershowitz, explained on Fox today that Mueller has nothing on Trump and will never have anything on him re Russian Collusion because there was none, and that Mueller is trying to blackmail Manafort into fingering Trump over something. He has on previous occasions pontificated on the fact that if Trump and Putin had colluded it would not have been illegal.
Of course, you must remember, pissants make molehills out to be mountains, dont you?
"... Mueller has nothing on Trump and will never have anything on him re Russian Collusion because there was none,"
I don't believe that there is much (if anything) on Trump, but there appears to be a smoking gun pointed at the Trump Campaign. Underlings often take actions to enhance the success of the boss without his knowledge. It is certainly possible that members of the campaign staff DID try to gain an advantage by colluding with the Russians without Trump's approval or knowledge. Only time will tell.
Define "colluding" in legal terms and while you are at it post the relevant Federal Statutes that make this "colluding" ,of which you speak, illegal and a violation of law.
I guess it was underlings that gave foreign govt officials who made huge donations to the Clinton Foundation personal meetings with Hillary, right, djs?
Underlings got FBI permission to destroy lap tops of Hilkary, right, djs?
One of the greatest legal minds in the country, and a democrat, Alan Gershowitz, explained on Fox today that Mueller has nothing on Trump and will never have anything on him re Russian Collusion because there was none, and that Mueller is trying to blackmail Manafort into fingering Trump over something. He has on previous occasions pontificated on the fact that if Trump and Putin had colluded it would not have been illegal.
Of course, you must remember, pissants make molehills out to be mountains, dont you?
"... Mueller has nothing on Trump and will never have anything on him re Russian Collusion because there was none,"
I don't believe that there is much (if anything) on Trump, but there appears to be a smoking gun pointed at the Trump Campaign. Underlings often take actions to enhance the success of the boss without his knowledge. It is certainly possible that members of the campaign staff DID try to gain an advantage by colluding with the Russians without Trump's approval or knowledge. Only time will tell.
Define "colluding" in legal terms and while you are at it post the relevant Federal Statutes that make this "colluding" ,of which you speak, illegal and a violation of law.
Dimocraps dont need no freaking laws. This is the first special investigator in history appointed without evidence of a crime having been committed. They can investigate if a made up fairytail is true, even if not illegal. They have no interest in real illegality because it would involve the witch, and ass with class djs is satisfied with it. It is rather telling as to defining his sense of decency and dergree of character, or lack thereof.
There is zero in any of this linked to Trump or Russian collusion. All you have is one dude who didn't reveal everything to the FBI and another with some shady business deals that just might be illegal. How in the phouc does any of this equal Trump-collusion-Putin? Jorge will piss on your grave before Meuller brings down Trump because he has nothing.
You crowing about this is like the Brits returning from Dunkirk and claiming total victory after getting their ass handed to them by Hans Gudarian. Jeez.
He needs to go back and do more drugs, that way maybe he'll: 1. DIE 2. I will will most certainly piss on his grave.
Not even Safariman is as worthless, treasonous anti-American POS as this guy.
If I had the wherewithal, I'd go back a few years and re-post what this POS has said about the armed forces at the height of the Iraqi War. Not anything to do with why or policy, but just his disdain for those in uniform. And of course he's been caught in more LIES on other forums to fill a section in the Library Of Congress. The sad thing is he's procreated....
JeffObama would never take the time to watch this, but if he did, he'd go on suicide watch. Political pundit and insider Dick Morris blows Mueller up, along with the whole farce. Sorry JO.
There is zero in any of this linked to Trump or Russian collusion. All you have is one dude who didn't reveal everything to the FBI and another with some shady business deals that just might be illegal. How in the phouc does any of this equal Trump-collusion-Putin? Jorge will piss on your grave before Meuller brings down Trump because he has nothing.
You crowing about this is like the Brits returning from Dunkirk and claiming total victory after getting their ass handed to them by Hans Gudarian. Jeez.
He needs to go back and do more drugs, that way maybe he'll: 1. DIE 2. I will will most certainly piss on his grave.
Not even Safariman is as worthless, treasonous anti-American POS as this guy.
If I had the wherewithal, I'd go back a few years and re-post what this POS has said about the armed forces at the height of the Iraqi War. Not anything to do with why or policy, but just his disdain for those in uniform. And of course he's been caught in more LIES on other forums to fill a section in the Library Of Congress. The sad thing is he's procreated....
Lies are a necessary and acceptable way of life for libs. Thats why its ok for him to tell us Trump colluded and its ok for their leaders to lie and hoodwink the stupid conservatives. Those who are liars accept that they are liars but the problem is that they project their on shortcomings on others and thus live a life being cursed with the burden of always believing those they deal with are lying to them.
Hypocritical low life would also be happy for Trump to be hung for grabbing a pussy and happily let a buddy lying lib like Hillary to walk over crimes that cost his country lives and billions, even its largest uranium mine. Decency isnt a consideration when the object is victory at whatever cost.
Mmm hmmm. Flynn, Manafort and soon-to-be Kushner. Laffin' here.
It will turn out that Kushner was the point man for the collusion, in part by providing electoral data analytics to the Russians to target their bots and disinformation at. Gonna bet against me? I've been right so far. And you've been wrong. Hint. Oh- and it'll turn out Trump knew. I had thought perhaps he didn't. He did. He's going down. It's gonna be a shïtshow. Hells bells; it already IS! The man is falling apart right before our eyes. He can't put three sentences together without a bizarre mental glitch manifesting. His mind, such as it is, is elsewhere. Guilty guilty guilty.
Maybe the vociferous bashers here will find a way to alternative-fact your way out of me being right and you being wrong. I mean, not REALLY.... just in your little alternative reality. But that seems to suffice for some of you, so, good luck with that!
Mmm hmmm. Flynn, Manafort and soon-to-be Kushner. Laffin' here.
It will turn out that Kushner was the point man for the collusion, in part by providing electoral data analytics to the Russians to target their bots and disinformation at. Gonna bet against me? I've been right so far.
You were not..........You said Trump was involved in the "Collusion" so far no go dumb schit. Keep makin' schit up superman.......you're good at it. Have you ever tried politics, you seem to be good at it.
Mmm hmmm. Flynn, Manafort and soon-to-be Kushner. Laffin' here.
It will turn out that Kushner was the point man for the collusion, in part by providing electoral data analytics to the Russians to target their bots and disinformation at. Gonna bet against me? I've been right so far. And you've been wrong. Hint. Oh- and it'll turn out Trump knew. I had thought perhaps he didn't. He did. He's going down. It's gonna be a shïtshow. Hells bells; it already IS! The man is falling apart right before our eyes. He can't put three sentences together without a bizarre mental glitch manifesting. His mind, such as it is, is elsewhere. Guilty guilty guilty.
Maybe the vociferous bashers here will find a way to alternative-fact your way out of me being right and you being wrong. I mean, not REALLY.... just in your little alternative reality. But that seems to suffice for some of you, so, good luck with that!
Everything you believe is wrong and all that you value in the wretched demoncrap "hope" for this nation is valueless filth.
I typically and historically have ignored Jeff0 for the most part, something about pigs and mud....but I cannot ignore his ignorance and lies on this one. Flynn is not Trump, nor is Kushner, Bannon or Manafort so for Jeff to assert he’s right is a bald faced lie. TRUMP DID NOT COLLUDE WITH THE RUSSIANS! The democrats and their lap dogs DID COLLUDE WITH RUSSIA and there’s ample proof to nail them. Not only did the libs collude with Russia but they also paid big money to spread lies and misinformation about their opponents, they bought their political seats and they used trickery and lies to subvert our constitution and their actions are the definition of treason. I’m not making excuses for Flynn because I don’t think one way or another about him but lying to the FBI? GMAFB. The FBI is dishonesty personified and they lost all credibility and respect with their Hilary e-mail chitshow. Once this bullchit witch hunt that Mueller and his liberal Jew buddies are conducting is over there’s going to be some liberal heads rolling.
(6 months later on the Weather Channel) "High pressure over the Midwest brings sunny skies to Chicago, St. Louis and all the way into the Ohio Valley this weekend"."
JeffO - "See, I yold you! Major drought! I told all of you!!"
Once this bullchit witch hunt that Mueller and his liberal Jew buddies are conducting is over there’s going to be some liberal heads rolling.
And that is why they will try to carry this schit show on for as long as possible. Pretty simple really yet to complicated for Jeff Obama to understand.
I wonder want JeffO will say after Trump gets re-elected with 350 electoral votes? He will have the power of the incumbent, and an opponent with no shot and no message other that "I'm not Trump"
Sanders? Ha! He'll be 80 and already got screwed by the Dems Biden? Was prevented from running last time by his Party and has no stomach for a fight Pochahantis/Lieawatha? Shrill witch is more shallow than a sidewalk water puddle and would come unglued at Trump's attacks.
Juan Castro? Progressive Marco Rubio Gavin Newsmen? Dangerous homo that will not play well outside of the Progressive Left.
JeffObama (the PTSD by falling off a ladder metrosexual), is too brain damaged by dope to remember Flynn's conversations with the Russians was already leaked by the Washington Post on 23 Jan of this year and it was CLEAR, there was NO evidence of collusion. Further, Trump (or any other presidential transition) is well within his rights to contact other governments in order to facilitate eventual official dealings with them once they are in power. How much longer do we need to wait until AIDS removes this pothead from our forum....
Gosh golly, ya THINK Trump has been "fake-news'ing" a long procession of patently true stories?! That HE KNEW were true?! Gosh golly, ya THINK that's what a guy lying through his treasonous teeth would do? Huh! Weird stuff, Maynard.
This purveyor of "fake news!" fake news!" put it succinctly.
"With the Special Counsel and FBI verifying so many news reports from the last year, seems pretty clear why the WH and its vassals have deployed the term "fake news" to attack accurate stories." - Jake Trapper, CNN
Bwa ha ha. I won't lie, I'm enjoying rubbing your noses in your own poop, and I'm gonna be laffin' about it for a loooooong time.
(that's ONLY aimed at the fücknuts who earlier in this thread and elsewhere went to such great lengths to be such dickwads about this towards me. To them- and they know who they are- how's my ASS taste?)
Enjoy the last little bit of your alternate-fact circle-jerk bubble, guys. It's gonna pop soon. I mean, if you had two brain cells to rub together it already would've, but you apparently don't.
Don't think Russia affected the election? KT McFarland disagrees:
"President Trump's former deputy national security adviser K.T. McFarland told a friend in an email when she was on Trump's transition team that Russia "threw" the U.S. election to Trump, The New York Times reported Saturday. McFarland reportedly wrote in the email that sanctions then-President Obama levied on Russia in response to Moscow's election meddling would make it more difficult for Trump to improve relations with Russia "which has just thrown the U.S.A. election to him.""
In no way am I suggesting that the results of the election be nullified. It is what it is, and besides, Hillary is a witch.
But here's yet another in the looooong list of ways that I was right, and you were wrong.
My BITCHES! This is AWESOME! Now one of you losers (Bigfish?) rub my feet and get me a beer. Chop chop.
It may amaze you, considering the circles within which you jerk, but asking people how your ass tastes may have a tendency to discourage replies, even to the insanity you post.
And of course, no one needs to actually take a sample of said orifice, to know that whatever flavor it might possess would be attributable to the 18 guys that left their mark in there last night, along with the ever-present seasoning of herpes and AIDS viruses that have taken up residence there.
That out of the way, you fcking moron, the email from Ms. McFarland was created and sent *after* the election:
"The transition official, KT McFarland, told the unnamed colleague in the email obtained by the New York Times that the sanctions were aimed at delegitimizing Trump's election victory."
IOW, you idiot, the election was *over*, President Trump had won, and McFarland was discussing ways to improve relations with Russia after O'Buckwheat had fcked em up, on purpose.
Your fantasy of Russian collusion remains just that.
"President Trump's former deputy national security adviser K.T. McFarland told a friend in an email when she was on Trump's transition team that Russia "threw" the U.S. election to Trump, The New York Times reported Saturday. McFarland reportedly wrote in the email that sanctions then-President Obama levied on Russia in response to Moscow's election meddling would make it more difficult for Trump to improve relations with Russia "which has just thrown the U.S.A. election to him.""
Please explain how they did that any more than any other special interest group.
Did the stuff ballot boxes? Did they threaten or coerce voters? Did they take out ads?
Everything illegal & deceitful that Hilary did should have been exposed, no matter who may have exposed it...............if it was the Russians, then they did us all a service.
Other than that, what did they REALLY do? Comey, Lynch & The Muslim did more illegal schitt to attempt to throw the election to Hilary than anything the Russians MIGHT have done, & that's fact.
Russia threw the election to Trump..........So now you think Russia controls American Politics.........In other words Putin is really the president of The United States.
Your about as delusional as one can b. Boy are you going to be embarrassed when this is all done.
BTW, Matt Flynn did not collude with the Russians........
Jell0, you love sucking fake news cork more than anyone we know, and probably real cork too. Your duplicitous hypocracy is astounding and a testimony to your lack of honesty, fairness and character. You are truly a fugged up piece of work to the point of being a freak of human nature almost to the point of convincing me we did descend from monkeys and you descended to an astounding uncommon degree.
JeffObama: stick the below paragraph in sideways. It might just "take" given the fact you probably haven't farted or had a tapered log in several decades...
Originally Posted by Fubarski
You is one sick bastard.
It may amaze you, considering the circles within which you jerk, but asking people how your ass tastes may have a tendency to discourage replies, even to the insanity you post.
And of course, no one needs to actually take a sample of said orifice, to know that whatever flavor it might possess would be attributable to the 18 guys that left their mark in there last night, along with the ever-present seasoning of herpes and AIDS viruses that have taken up residence there.
That out of the way, you fcking moron, the email from Ms. McFarland was created and sent *after* the election:
"The transition official, KT McFarland, told the unnamed colleague in the email obtained by the New York Times that the sanctions were aimed at delegitimizing Trump's election victory."
IOW, you idiot, the election was *over*, President Trump had won, and McFarland was discussing ways to improve relations with Russia after O'Buckwheat had fcked em up, on purpose.
Your fantasy of Russian collusion remains just that.
If you got suspicious that your wife was having an affair with a guy named Vlad, and she said she'd never so much as spoken to him in any way, you'd be like, ok.
Then you see that there's a bunch of disguised text messages to him on her phone- well yeah, I've TEXTED with him, but I've never so much as said a word!
Then you notice on your cell bill that there's a bunch of calls between them. Well, yeah, I've spoken to him but c'mon hubby! I've never even met the guy in real life.
Then your buddy mentions seeing the two of them having lunch. Well, see, we had LUNCH, but it was purely for business reasons, hon buns! I've certainly never been alone with the man!
Then you find hotel reservations for two.... that you weren't a part of. Well, sure, we shared a hotel but I'd NEVER actually touch him! I'm married to YOU, my nookums!
Then the PI you hire gives you photos of her sucking his cöck. Well, ok, but we certainly never had SEX, sweetie! Why I would never.
Would you believe her? Or does the chain of lies destroy all credibility?
Then why in the hell do you believe that PROVEN lying sack of [bleep] Donald Trump about Russia?
Here. Let this into your little alt-right news bubble, I dare ya. Illustrates the chain of lies nicely. Enjoy!
If you got suspicious that your wife was having an affair with a guy named Vlad, and she said she'd never so much as spoken to him in any way, you'd be like, ok.
Then you see that there's a bunch of disguised text messages to him on her phone- well yeah, I've TEXTED with him, but I've never so much as said a word!
Then you notice on your cell bill that there's a bunch of calls between them. Well, yeah, I've spoken to him but c'mon hubby! I've never even met the guy in real life.
Then your buddy mentions seeing the two of them having lunch. Well, see, we had LUNCH, but it was purely for business reasons, hon buns! I've certainly never been alone with the man!
Then you find hotel reservations for two.... that you weren't a part of. Well, sure, we shared a hotel but I'd NEVER actually touch him! I'm married to YOU, my nookums!
Then the PI you hire gives you photos of her sucking his cöck. Well, ok, but we certainly never had SEX, sweetie! Why I would never.
Would you believe her? Or does the chain of lies destroy all credibility?
Then why in the hell do you believe that PROVEN lying sack of [bleep] Donald Trump about Russia?
Here. Let this into your little alt-right news bubble, I dare ya. Illustrates the chain of lies nicely. Enjoy!
you have to about the dumbest person i've ever encountered.
And yet, I'm batting 1000. So what does that make YOU?
Read the [bleep] link. Twice. Thrice. Hell man, have someone read it to you if that helps. Then cogitate sans partisanship. Or at least, try.
When will you start? You could be a fairly decent guy if you shook off the lieberal demon. About like your bros believing homo's don't hurt anything, when they've laid ruin to every society that's accepted them. Lieberals are wrong about everything.
Don't think Russia affected the election? KT McFarland disagrees:
"President Trump's former deputy national security adviser K.T. McFarland told a friend in an email when she was on Trump's transition team that Russia "threw" the U.S. election to Trump, The New York Times reported Saturday. McFarland reportedly wrote in the email that sanctions then-President Obama levied on Russia in response to Moscow's election meddling would make it more difficult for Trump to improve relations with Russia "which has just thrown the U.S.A. election to him.""
In no way am I suggesting that the results of the election be nullified. It is what it is, and besides, Hillary is a witch.
But here's yet another in the looooong list of ways that I was right, and you were wrong.
My BITCHES! This is AWESOME! Now one of you losers (Bigfish?) rub my feet and get me a beer. Chop chop.
Interesting that she would know that since she didn't work on his campaign and wasn't affiliated with him until after the election. I know I always make it a priority to tell new hires my deepest darkest secrets, I'm sure Trump does the same.
Don't think Russia affected the election? KT McFarland disagrees:
"President Trump's former deputy national security adviser K.T. McFarland told a friend in an email when she was on Trump's transition team that Russia "threw" the U.S. election to Trump, The New York Times reported Saturday. McFarland reportedly wrote in the email that sanctions then-President Obama levied on Russia in response to Moscow's election meddling would make it more difficult for Trump to improve relations with Russia "which has just thrown the U.S.A. election to him.""
In no way am I suggesting that the results of the election be nullified. It is what it is, and besides, Hillary is a witch.
But here's yet another in the looooong list of ways that I was right, and you were wrong.
My BITCHES! This is AWESOME! Now one of you losers (Bigfish?) rub my feet and get me a beer. Chop chop.
You want a guy to rub your feet? Well, we always knew you were a queer so that shouldn't come as a surprise.
"George [Papadopoulos] is very loyal to his country,” Mangiante told ABC News. “He is already on the right side of history. I think he will make a big difference."
Combine that with Flynn's statement to the effect that he was helping the FBI because it's good for the country and, well, if you ain't reading the sign (you ain't) then there's not much going on in your noggin (there ain't). Figuratively. I mean of COURSE I know there's all manner of wack-ass conspiracy shït going on in your noggins! But I mean REAL things. Anyway. Enjoy, my good friends of the Campfire!
Once again one of the traditions that should have never gone away would have been a good old fashioned dual or the ability to just slap the [bleep] out of dumbasses because I can guarantee you numbnut JeffBlow would not be around or able to form even the incoherent babbling he posts now. Someone would have fixed that a looooong time ago
Once again one of the traditions that should have never gone away would have been a good old fashioned dual or the ability to just slap the [bleep] out of dumbasses because I can guarantee you numbnut JeffBlow would not be around or able to form even the incoherent babbling he posts now. Someone would have fixed that a looooong time ago
yeah, when you can't beat him in a debate, you beat the [bleep] out of him. Makes sense for this crowd, but being keyboard cowboys, I'd not put any money on ya.
Once again one of the traditions that should have never gone away would have been a good old fashioned dual or the ability to just slap the [bleep] out of dumbasses because I can guarantee you numbnut JeffBlow would not be around or able to form even the incoherent babbling he posts now. Someone would have fixed that a looooong time ago
yeah, when you can't beat him in a debate, you beat the [bleep] out of him. Makes sense for this crowd, but being keyboard cowboys, I'd not put any money on ya.
Just go back to massaging Jeff's feet you dirty beaner... oh wait, he wants a man to do it. Nevermind.
Oh- and add this to the sign you should be reading: Trump's lawyers just floated two trial balloons out there. First, that hey, collusion isn't actually a crime! And second, that there's no such thing as obstruction by a POTUS.
Why, dear readers, would they do THAT?
Now, I've said over and over that I'm not for a witch hunt here. So I'm opposed to a "pure" obstruction charge that is without underlying illegal and/or treasonous behavior. So if and ONLY if the obstruction is to cover that sort of stuff up, then sure. Add obstruction to the hangin' offense list. Otherwise, I personally don't want to see an obstruction charge.
But, at this point it' seems pretty clear the underlying behavior was there, hence the trial balloon. And, of course, there's plenty of prosecutable offenses that occurred as part of the collusion. Rich people don't want to do even a year or two in jail. Mueller has massive leverage.
PS- I'm not tired of winning yet. You guys tired of losing?
PPS- very smart of y'all to avoid betting me. Golf clap!
Oh- and add this to the sign you should be reading: Trump's lawyers just floated two trial balloons out there. First, that hey, collusion isn't actually a crime! And second, that there's no such thing as obstruction by a POTUS.
Why, dear readers, would they do THAT?
Now, I've said over and over that I'm not for a witch hunt here. So I'm opposed to a "pure" obstruction charge that is without underlying illegal and/or treasonous behavior. So if and ONLY if the obstruction is to cover that sort of stuff up, then sure. Add obstruction to the hangin' offense list. Otherwise, I personally don't want to see an obstruction charge.
But, at this point it' seems pretty clear the underlying behavior was there, hence the trial balloon. And, of course, there's plenty of prosecutable offenses that occurred as part of the collusion. Rich people don't want to do even a year or two in jail. Mueller has massive leverage.
PS- I'm not tired of winning yet. You guys tired of losing?
PPS- very smart of y'all to avoid betting me. Golf clap!
Jeff, all I got to say is. Damn Dude. I'm shaking my head. Laughing, spit beer on my screen, the whole bit. PPS- I won't avoid you. Whats the BET? Just a caveat...a bet has a specified time in which a specified thing must happen. Ohh, and a specified amount. One that note, have you figured out how to open a box of bullets yet? That seems to be the gentleman's standard here for bets. What is YOUR bet?
Hes too fuggin dumb to have a legitimate conversation with. He sees only the fake news side of the story and believes it, even though time after time he is shown how inaccurate and lying they are, such as in the B Ross report and the n the insa ne cnn report Joy B danced over. They never learn and continue to go to the assay office with every bit of folls gold they find.
He is a liar and believes the lies of the left which is what makes him dumb. Then, as is the want of liars, he believes those telling the truth are actually lying.
That is the proof of his insanity, always believing the lieberal liars and ending up in the same boat. Trying the same thing over and over and expecting a different result.
His claims of having always having been correct is proof of his delusional state that all can see except he. He believes what he wishes to believe. Hes a liar so he thinks Julian Assange is a liar. He a lieberal, and he cant help it. Thats how they are. They dont mentally process things, they believe.
Hint Jell0, Julian Assange isnt like a lieberal. He doesnt have to lie. You do. You have no choice. Youre a lieberal.
Oh- and add this to the sign you should be reading: Trump's lawyers just floated two trial balloons out there. First, that hey, collusion isn't actually a crime! And second, that there's no such thing as obstruction by a POTUS.
Why, dear readers, would they do THAT?
Now, I've said over and over that I'm not for a witch hunt here. So I'm opposed to a "pure" obstruction charge that is without underlying illegal and/or treasonous behavior. So if and ONLY if the obstruction is to cover that sort of stuff up, then sure. Add obstruction to the hangin' offense list. Otherwise, I personally don't want to see an obstruction charge.
But, at this point it' seems pretty clear the underlying behavior was there, hence the trial balloon. And, of course, there's plenty of prosecutable offenses that occurred as part of the collusion. Rich people don't want to do even a year or two in jail. Mueller has massive leverage.
PS- I'm not tired of winning yet. You guys tired of losing?
PPS- very smart of y'all to avoid betting me. Golf clap!
There is no crime of “collusion” in the federal code but then that wasn't the bet you made with me was it?
Oh- and add this to the sign you should be reading: Trump's lawyers just floated two trial balloons out there. First, that hey, collusion isn't actually a crime! And second, that there's no such thing as obstruction by a POTUS.
Why, dear readers, would they do THAT?
Now, I've said over and over that I'm not for a witch hunt here. So I'm opposed to a "pure" obstruction charge that is without underlying illegal and/or treasonous behavior. So if and ONLY if the obstruction is to cover that sort of stuff up, then sure. Add obstruction to the hangin' offense list. Otherwise, I personally don't want to see an obstruction charge.
But, at this point it' seems pretty clear the underlying behavior was there, hence the trial balloon. And, of course, there's plenty of prosecutable offenses that occurred as part of the collusion. Rich people don't want to do even a year or two in jail. Mueller has massive leverage.
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Just floated trial Balloons? Really.
The Fact that "collusion" is not a crime has been in the news since this whole made up narrative began. Every legal annalist and attorney worth a [bleep] has repeated many time, "collusion" is not a crime. This is not a trial balloon and is nothing new. Allen Dershowitz has been telling America this for over a year.
As for the Obstruction Trial Balloon, wrong again. This was in response to Feinseins appearance on the tube saying that the Senate investigation has move into Obstruction of Justice Charges against President Trump. As also pointed out by every legal annalist and attorney worth a [bleep], the President CANNOT be charged with Obstruction of Justice.
Giys like Jell0 are what has sent many innocent people to prison by having a prosecutor who is bent on proving someones guilt because they thought the suspect was guilty because of their "feelings" which were strong enough to over ride their objectivity. He totally ignores contrary information as brainwashed individuals do.
He dismisses piles of exculpatory evidence while fixating on slivers of possibilities. Pure insanity.
Oh- and add this to the sign you should be reading: Trump's lawyers just floated two trial balloons out there. First, that hey, collusion isn't actually a crime! And second, that there's no such thing as obstruction by a POTUS.
Why, dear readers, would they do THAT?
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Because droves of hysterical liberals who know nothing about the law have been accusing Trump of collusion and obstruction. They are trying to educate idiots. In vain.
Jell0, what do your dr, lawyer, businessmen, engineer and farming and ranching associates think of your one track mind dedication, or do you only associate with them when on the Fire?
I commend you guys for attempting to educate JellO, but it is a wasted effort. He is a delusional libtard as Jag has pointed out. Facts dont matter to him, logic doesn't matter either. Typical liberal fashion he thinks he is smart yet he is the dumbest person in the room, funny thing about lib's is the arrogance they posses.
He is a stereo typical libtard , to arrogant and dumb to know it. Useful idiot.
No, he's gone full blown troll with his Alinsky hit and run guerrilla tactics. Re-education or rehabilitation is not possible. Living well under Trump for the next 7 years as my investment portfolio climbs will be the best revenge,
Oh- and add this to the sign you should be reading: Trump's lawyers just floated two trial balloons out there. First, that hey, collusion isn't actually a crime! And second, that there's no such thing as obstruction by a POTUS.
Why, dear readers, would they do THAT?
Now, I've said over and over that I'm not for a witch hunt here. So I'm opposed to a "pure" obstruction charge that is without underlying illegal and/or treasonous behavior. So if and ONLY if the obstruction is to cover that sort of stuff up, then sure. Add obstruction to the hangin' offense list. Otherwise, I personally don't want to see an obstruction charge.
But, at this point it' seems pretty clear the underlying behavior was there, hence the trial balloon. And, of course, there's plenty of prosecutable offenses that occurred as part of the collusion. Rich people don't want to do even a year or two in jail. Mueller has massive leverage.
PS- I'm not tired of winning yet. You guys tired of losing?
PPS- very smart of y'all to avoid betting me. Golf clap!
Many more people will be indicted and arrested. Many more people will plead guilty and cooperate. Those that won't cooperate will spend years in prison. There were plenty of crimes committed. How many remains to be seen.
Oh- and add this to the sign you should be reading: Trump's lawyers just floated two trial balloons out there. First, that hey, collusion isn't actually a crime! And second, that there's no such thing as obstruction by a POTUS.
Why, dear readers, would they do THAT?
Now, I've said over and over that I'm not for a witch hunt here. So I'm opposed to a "pure" obstruction charge that is without underlying illegal and/or treasonous behavior. So if and ONLY if the obstruction is to cover that sort of stuff up, then sure. Add obstruction to the hangin' offense list. Otherwise, I personally don't want to see an obstruction charge.
But, at this point it' seems pretty clear the underlying behavior was there, hence the trial balloon. And, of course, there's plenty of prosecutable offenses that occurred as part of the collusion. Rich people don't want to do even a year or two in jail. Mueller has massive leverage.
PS- I'm not tired of winning yet. You guys tired of losing?
PPS- very smart of y'all to avoid betting me. Golf clap!
Many more people will be indicted and arrested. Many more people will plead guilty and cooperate. Those that won't cooperate will spend years in prison. There were plenty of crimes committed. How many remains to be seen.
Not one damn arrest will be made as a result of anyone illegally partnering with the Russians to try to swing the election. NOT ONE.
Giys like Jell0 are what has sent many innocent people to prison by having a prosecutor who is bent on proving someones guilt because they thought the suspect was guilty because of their "feelings" which were strong enough to over ride their objectivity. He totally ignores contrary information as brainwashed individuals do.
He dismisses piles of exculpatory evidence while fixating on slivers of possibilities. Pure insanity.
Oh- and add this to the sign you should be reading: Trump's lawyers just floated two trial balloons out there. First, that hey, collusion isn't actually a crime! And second, that there's no such thing as obstruction by a POTUS.
Why, dear readers, would they do THAT?
Now, I've said over and over that I'm not for a witch hunt here. So I'm opposed to a "pure" obstruction charge that is without underlying illegal and/or treasonous behavior. So if and ONLY if the obstruction is to cover that sort of stuff up, then sure. Add obstruction to the hangin' offense list. Otherwise, I personally don't want to see an obstruction charge.
But, at this point it' seems pretty clear the underlying behavior was there, hence the trial balloon. And, of course, there's plenty of prosecutable offenses that occurred as part of the collusion. Rich people don't want to do even a year or two in jail. Mueller has massive leverage.
PS- I'm not tired of winning yet. You guys tired of losing?
PPS- very smart of y'all to avoid betting me. Golf clap!
Many more people will be indicted and arrested. Many more people will plead guilty and cooperate. Those that won't cooperate will spend years in prison. There were plenty of crimes committed. How many remains to be seen.
Not one damn arrest will be made as a result of anyone illegally partnering with the Russians to try to swing the election. NOT ONE.
Let's see what Michael Flynn has to say. Until then we're just speculating.
Oh- and add this to the sign you should be reading: Trump's lawyers just floated two trial balloons out there. First, that hey, collusion isn't actually a crime! And second, that there's no such thing as obstruction by a POTUS.
Why, dear readers, would they do THAT?
Now, I've said over and over that I'm not for a witch hunt here. So I'm opposed to a "pure" obstruction charge that is without underlying illegal and/or treasonous behavior. So if and ONLY if the obstruction is to cover that sort of stuff up, then sure. Add obstruction to the hangin' offense list. Otherwise, I personally don't want to see an obstruction charge.
But, at this point it' seems pretty clear the underlying behavior was there, hence the trial balloon. And, of course, there's plenty of prosecutable offenses that occurred as part of the collusion. Rich people don't want to do even a year or two in jail. Mueller has massive leverage.
PS- I'm not tired of winning yet. You guys tired of losing?
PPS- very smart of y'all to avoid betting me. Golf clap!
Many more people will be indicted and arrested. Many more people will plead guilty and cooperate. Those that won't cooperate will spend years in prison. There were plenty of crimes committed. How many remains to be seen.
Not one damn arrest will be made as a result of anyone illegally partnering with the Russians to try to swing the election. NOT ONE.
Let's see what Michael Flynn has to say. Until then we're just speculating.
I said this early on. Now that the alt.right is going full-retard with their "so what?" defense, it bears repeating.
Continually jousting with Trump over his denial that any of this amounted to "collusion" with the Russians is a distraction, say veteran intelligence hands. It amounts to looking for an explicit quid pro quo that may not exist. It misses, moreover, "what is right under our noses," wrote Rangappa, the former FBI counterintelligence agent, along with Sipher, the onetime CIA Moscow station chief, and Alex Finley, a former CIA operations officer, in a joint piece for the Just Security website. "There is no question that Russia made multiple, unprecedented attempts to penetrate a U.S. presidential campaign, that its approaches were not rebuffed, and that its contacts were sensitive enough that everyone, to a person, has concealed them. "These facts might never be adjudicated inside a courtroom," they added. "They may not even be illegal—but they present a clear and present national security threat that we cannot ignore.
However, many WILL ignore it because they are partisan fücktards.
So sad!!! So................. so very full-retard of y'all. Congratulations?
Partisan fucgktards care not that the Hillary camp engaged in many ILLEGAL acts of collusion and give not one whit about those acts. You really take the cake.
You really think having the FBI and DOJ colluding with a candidates campaign against an opponent is not a national security threat?
I have never communicated with anyone in public discourse as dense or as partisan as you. It matters not a speck to you what Hillary has done. You are truly unbelievable.
It's as if you have a one track mind and can contemplate noting else- like a heroine addict in bad need of a fix.
Not hard to see why the guys you quote no longer have those jobs, Jell0.
If you will remember, Trump was not president until sometime after the election. So much for their statement that Russias attempts at penetrating the election were not rebuffed. I guess Zero should be at fault then, right? In fact, I specifically remember him saying he had told them to "stop it". Of course, before that he was saying there was no way they could interfer with a US election. His story only changed after Hillary lost it.
Enen then, I seem to recall the top guy Brennan saying the Ruskies didnt change one vote. You are butthurt over the Ruskies rigging the election where the head of youre own den of snakes says not one vote was changed by them.
I wonder how many votes Trump lost when about 10 days before the election Hillary 'let it slip' that she had heard there werr going to be serious allegations shortly concerning Trump. I guess she had heard that Trump was going to have serious allegations leveled against him, since she had paid for those allegations to be fabricated.
I said this early on. Now that the alt.right is going full-retard with their "so what?" defense, it bears repeating.
Continually jousting with Trump over his denial that any of this amounted to "collusion" with the Russians is a distraction, say veteran intelligence hands. It amounts to looking for an explicit quid pro quo that may not exist. It misses, moreover, "what is right under our noses," wrote Rangappa, the former FBI counterintelligence agent, along with Sipher, the onetime CIA Moscow station chief, and Alex Finley, a former CIA operations officer, in a joint piece for the Just Security website. "There is no question that Russia made multiple, unprecedented attempts to penetrate a U.S. presidential campaign, that its approaches were not rebuffed, and that its contacts were sensitive enough that everyone, to a person, has concealed them. "These facts might never be adjudicated inside a courtroom," they added. "They may not even be illegal—but they present a clear and present national security threat that we cannot ignore.
However, many WILL ignore it because they are partisan fücktards.
So sad!!! So................. so very full-retard of y'all. Congratulations?
Obama never was much into cyber security. I am a veteran and a government employee and had my personal information hacked through both those databases. It doesn't surprise me at all that Russia would try to break in. I am surprised it surprised anyone.
“[Kushner was] taking meetings with Russians to get additional stuff. This tells you everything about Jared,” Bannon told the magazine’s Gabriel Sherman. “They were looking for the picture of Hillary Clinton taking the bag of cash from Putin. That’s his maturity level.”
-Steve Bannon
But wait guys. I thought this was all a hoax...? A nothing-burger? Is Bannon lying? Mis-informed? I mean he was right there at the time..........?
Assume for a moment the Mr. Trump didn't know a THING about this at the time, not the slightest inkling. That's hard to type with a straight face, but let's pretend. How far would he go to protect his son in law after the fact? Would he obstruct justice? Because clearly, Trump became aware of this at a bare minimum; but then lied about and has continued lie through his TEETH about it. As recently as yesterday Sanders called it all a hoax. Yet the objective reality is that it is not a hoax.
(If you still think this is a hoax, your an idiot, there's just no nice way to say it. Not that I owe some of you [bleep] niceness. )
The day is coming where you'll have to make a decision. You can support the notion of a sovereign America, the rule of law, and loyalty towards the process of American democracy. Or you can support a lying treasonous son of a bitch. I get that from the perspective from within your bubble, there's still a minuscule shred of plausible deniability. When that's gone, even for you bubble-boys, whatcha gonna do? Will you be man enough to admit you were wrong?
If you believe in what Mr. Trump was selling in the campaign, his ideas on trade protectionism, on reducing our global military footprint, on finding ways to bring GOOD jobs back to the US, on an infrastructure surge, and so on (all of which I personally support in some form), then the ONLY way this populist movement- which again, is something I am generally very supportive of- survives will be to de-couple from Donald Trump. Bannon called Trump an imperfect vessel for this populist energy, way back at the beginning. I'm gonna call that the understatement of the century.
“[Kushner was] taking meetings with Russians to get additional stuff. This tells you everything about Jared,” Bannon told the magazine’s Gabriel Sherman. “They were looking for the picture of Hillary Clinton taking the bag of cash from Putin. That’s his maturity level.”
-Steve Bannon
But wait guys. I thought this was all a hoax...? A nothing-burger? Is Bannon lying? Mis-informed? I mean he was right there at the time..........?
Assume for a moment the Mr. Trump didn't know a THING about this at the time, not the slightest inkling. That's hard to type with a straight face, but let's pretend. How far would he go to protect his son in law after the fact? Would he obstruct justice? Because clearly, Trump became aware of this at a bare minimum; but then lied about and has continued lie through his TEETH about it. As recently as yesterday Sanders called it all a hoax. Yet the objective reality is that it is not a hoax.
(If you still think this is a hoax, your an idiot, there's just no nice way to say it. Not that I owe some of you [bleep] niceness. )
The day is coming where you'll have to make a decision. You can support the notion of a sovereign America, the rule of law, and loyalty towards the process of American democracy. Or you can support a lying treasonous son of a bitch. I get that from the perspective from within your bubble, there's still a minuscule shred of plausible deniability. When that's gone, even for you bubble-boys, whatcha gonna do? Will you be man enough to admit you were wrong?
If you believe in what Mr. Trump was selling in the campaign, his ideas on trade protectionism, on reducing our global military footprint, on finding ways to bring GOOD jobs back to the US, on an infrastructure surge, and so on (all of which I personally support in some form), then the ONLY way this populist movement- which again, is something I am generally very supportive of- survives will be to de-couple from Donald Trump. Bannon called Trump an imperfect vessel for this populist energy, way back at the beginning. I'm gonna call that the understatement of the century.
Aaahhh shuddup already and go make me a Christmas time sammich.
However this plays out, whoever turns out to be right or wrong in our petty little internet feud here, it ain't gonna be some tool in DC that MAGA. It's US, here on the ground, working hard, doing the right thing by our children, caring about our society, giving a shït, trying hard. I know that describes many here. WE are what makes America great. We the people, and the Constitution that binds us. We'll figure this crap out.
Have a great day. Hug your loved ones. Keep the flame. Life is hard, but the effort is what matters. Its never been easy, and God forbid it should ever BE easy, and on that I suspect we agree. We try. We CARE. I respect that about you. Merry Christmas! Ya buncha [bleep].
Yeah, doing the right thing like veoting for socialists, commies, crooks, qqeeerrs, muzzies, open borders, gun control and more taxes. That will maga.
I dont know Jell0, Trump seems to be pretty much proving you wrong (again). He apparently is having more success than your buds have by following Saul Alinsky, unless you call Detroits demise a success. He even has folks talking about ending chain migration and only letting folks immigrate who can carry their own weight, as we used to do. That in itself went pretty far toward maga.
It doesht seem that the socialist program is working very well in making western Europe great again.
Its too bad you cant distinguish the difference in Trumps and Zeros successes. If you could, maybe you would someday "get it".
However this plays out, whoever turns out to be right or wrong in our petty little internet feud here, it ain't gonna be some tool in DC that MAGA. It's US, here on the ground, working hard, doing the right thing by our children, caring about our society, giving a shït, trying hard. I know that describes many here. WE are what makes America great. We the people, and the Constitution that binds us. We'll figure this crap out.
Have a great day. Hug your loved ones. Keep the flame. Life is hard, but the effort is what matters. Its never been easy, and God forbid it should ever BE easy, and on that I suspect we agree. We try. We CARE. I respect that about you. Merry Christmas! Ya buncha [bleep].
Wow, You got high for Christmas Morning? Whatever. At least you have your tail between your legs.... So you got THAT going for you. God, you're a commie loser. Keep up the good work. Happy New Year.
However this plays out, whoever turns out to be right or wrong in our petty little internet feud here, it ain't gonna be some tool in DC that MAGA. It's US, here on the ground, working hard, doing the right thing by our children, caring about our society, giving a shït, trying hard. I know that describes many here. WE are what makes America great. We the people, and the Constitution that binds us. We'll figure this crap out.
Have a great day. Hug your loved ones. Keep the flame. Life is hard, but the effort is what matters. Its never been easy, and God forbid it should ever BE easy, and on that I suspect we agree. We try. We CARE. I respect that about you. Merry Christmas! Ya buncha [bleep].
Lolol....softening your hardline stance suddenly and a touching soliloquy about the power of the people. Toofuckingfunny.
However this plays out, whoever turns out to be right or wrong in our petty little internet feud here, it ain't gonna be some tool in DC that MAGA. It's US, here on the ground, working hard, doing the right thing by our children, caring about our society, giving a shït, trying hard. I know that describes many here. WE are what makes America great. We the people, and the Constitution that binds us. We'll figure this crap out.
Have a great day. Hug your loved ones. Keep the flame. Life is hard, but the effort is what matters. Its never been easy, and God forbid it should ever BE easy, and on that I suspect we agree. We try. We CARE. I respect that about you. Merry Christmas! Ya buncha [bleep].
Lolol....softening your hardline stance suddenly and a touching soliloquy about the power of the people. Toofuckingfunny.
This place has actually been a lot less goofy, that is till you post JeffO's posts. At one time I promised to punch him in the face. What a waste of time and knuckle skin that would have been! Unfortunately for Jeff, I believe I'm seeing signs that the concussion he suffered a few years ago has had long lasting effects. Don't wish it on anyone, but he couldn't afford the loss of one brain cell.
Things are tough right now for the Trolls assigned to annoy us by the Democrat Inderground.
Collusion isn't working out. The more they dig the more it points to the Klintons. Not good for their cause.
The campaign to paint Trump as a misogynistic blew up in their face. Trump talked about heaving Pussy, too many Dems actually did it. Not good for the cause.
Tax cut will put real money in the hands of workers, and already has for employees of ART, Boeing, /5 and others.! April 15th will find millions more appreciating Trumps tax bill.
The US is exporting coal, which means jobs in WV, PA, and KY.!! That ain't good for the . on 2019 or 2020.
ISIS is losing territory and influence rapidly. Assad knows better that to phouc with Trump least he get a cruise Millie enema. His buddy Putin cannot protect him against Trump. Another victory.
Dow is approaching 24,000. Any say once the tax cuts take effect, it will be at 30,000 in 2 years. Couple that with minute unemployment figures and Trump will be impossible to defeat in 2020.
If that's the case, impeach is the Dems only hope. Go do that they have to win, what 32 House Seats and lose none, while getting every Dem seat re elected? Dream on!
Then you gotta get the Senate to play along. Fat Chance.
Should it turn out that collusion is demonstrated between the Trump campaign and Russia, and I'm phrasing it that way as my holiday gift to you (smooch), this is my bet for what it will turn out to be.
It's hard for me to even wrap my brain around the utter disdain for American democracy a campaign would have to have to do such a thing. That would not be the action of folks who just loved America sooooo much that they did an itty bitty little boo-boo to try to save it. Nor is that the action of folks taking an America-first stance. It's an act of treason. It's an act of intentional corruption of our electoral process. It is one of the most anti-America acts I can conceive of. It's also an act that would result in our main global rival gaining enormous leverage over said campaign.
All the partisanship in the world doesn't change that simple fact. It'd be same-same if this was Hillary or Sanders or whomever we were talking about here. The only difference would be that in THAT case, all y'all would be foaming at the mouth about it, and you be right to do so. If only obviously.
It's hard for me to even wrap my brain around the utter disdain for American democracy a campaign would have to have to do such a thing. That would not be the action of folks who just loved America sooooo much that they did an itty bitty TYRANNY BY HAVING THE POTUS, FISA COURT, CIA, HILLARY, DNC, AND FBI COLLUDE AGAINST TRUMP. So, we shall see what we see.
Should it turn out that collusion is demonstrated between the Trump campaign and Russia, and I'm phrasing it that way as my holiday gift to you (smooch), this is my bet for what it will turn out to be.
Your such a fuggin' Dunce and I say that with all sincerity one can muster for an indiscreet retard.
The Trump Campaign Folks can go get voter information any time they want, they don't need the Russians help to do this, You or I can go get Voter information if you or I want it.
There is no reason for the Trump team to "Collude" to get this information.
It's hard for me to even wrap my brain around the utter disdain for American democracy a campaign would have to have to do such a thing. That would not be the action of folks who just loved America sooooo much that they did an itty bitty TYRANNY BY HAVING THE POTUS, FISA COURT, CIA, HILLARY, DNC, AND FBI COLLUDE AGAINST TRUMP. So, we shall see what we see.
JeffO is one of those guys that didn't care about Obamas birth certificate but are still outraged that they couldn't come up with Saddam's WMDs even though he gassed an ass load of Iranians and Kurds.
He's satisfied that Trump and Putin stole the election from Hillary, but the Clintons and the Clinton Foundation had clean hands. No pay for influence there. Oh, and that dossier thing the Clintons paid for is nothing. However, the fact that Jared met with some Russian chick who has 64 degrees of separation from someone who once SAW Vlad in Red Square is a sure and certain sign of subversion. Right....
This is so good that it is driving my simple thread upward to 1500 posts. I have JeffO and the encouragement he gets from the Democrat Underground to thank for this epic event👍💪💪
Yep, Hat, Hillary sold our uranium to Putin to help the US by making a friendly overture to our biggest threat next to global warming.
The AG meeting with Bill was a 30 min grandchild discussion and had nothing to do with Comey, whose brother was a Clinton Foundation lowyer, granting Hillary a pardon for violating the Espionage Act repeatedly and purposefully because she meant no harm. Destruction of equipment with govt info was an accident- accidently acid washed. Comey even recounted her many illegal lies. Well, they arent called illegal lies by muzzies, commies or retards.
Comey should have been gone the first day Trump took office. I think Trump had bigger fish to fry and had a hard time getting started.
The government has been slowly infused with liberal hacks in places where they will be nigh on to impossible to get rid of. Starting with Bush 41. He was no conservative although he looked nearly libertarian compared to the Clintons. With Bill Clinton the government was infiltrated with true progressive hacks at all levels. G.W. B. was not a conservative and he didn't do anything to get rid of them. He just added to the mess.
Every supreme court justice that voted for the ACA's legality should be impeached and tried for treason against the constitution they swore to protect.
Obama showed the way for Marxists and they are beholding to him. He truly brought about "change you can believe in". His administration was lawless and proud of it. With the help of the media he was able to truly hurt the country he hates and his minions will likely have to retire or die in position before they will be replaced. Comey, Mueller and Rosenstein were all friends and covered for one another. They loaded the FBI and Justice department with their piers.
Short of a voters revolution we are not going to make a dent in the malfeasants running around Washington multiplying like rats in the sewer. Republican leadership is just happy to be controlling the money. they do not want nor will they accept the change that is needed.
I actually think Jell0 is digging this stuff up and hitting us with it and acting obtuse to jerk our leg. I cant imagine any person being able to function in the real world while being as stupid as he is pretending to be.
Of course, there was that Rubix Cube bullet box thing. It sure makes one wonder.
Surley, you would think, hes smart enough to realize Comey said Hillary was a liar, in so many words, in regards to many questions she was asked. Jell0 wont even go there, though one of his heros said it's so.
Chill Jag just pokin' at Jeffy when he trots around on his "collusion" horse you know the one that plugs into the wall and ya stick a quarter in and as you ride it you hear the background music to CNN...
So far Mueller has 4 scalps to his credit. How many more criminals he rounds up remains to be seen. Probably many more, but unless he gets Trump himself nobody frigging cares. His whole campaign and even family members are disposable.
For...... "lying" to investigators. With hours of question, experienced investigators can tie most people into knots with leading questions. So after nearly a year at this with an all star staff, this is it?
I actually think Jell0 is digging this stuff up and hitting us with it and acting obtuse to jerk our leg. I cant imagine any person being able to function in the real world while being as stupid as he is pretending to be.
So far Mueller has 4 scalps to his credit. How many more criminals he rounds up remains to be seen. Probably many more, but unless he gets Trump himself nobody frigging cares. His whole campaign and even family members are disposable.
So far Mueller has 4 scalps to his credit. How many more criminals he rounds up remains to be seen. Probably many more, but unless he gets Trump himself nobody frigging cares. His whole campaign and even family members are disposable.
For...... "lying" to investigators. With hours of question, experienced investigators can tie most people into knots with leading questions. So after nearly a year at this with an all star staff, this is it?
Yawn❗️🙄🙄
Hey, wait until they issue a warrant for Putin. He is sure to flip on Trump.
Tall about guts, Trump sends tank busters to Ukraine knowing Putin could lay the bad word on him. Makes one think Trump is pretty certain about what hes got going for him. Zero would be showing Putin how flexible he really is.
"Bannon said that Robert Mueller’s investigation into potential collusion between the Trump campaign and the Russian government would “crack Don Junior like an egg on national TV.”"
"Bannon went on to say he was certain that the Russians at the now-infamous meeting at Trump Tower were introduced to the candidate himself — directly contradicting Trump’s numerous assertions that he had no contact with Russians during the campaign."
Clearly, Mr. Bannon has gone over to the Deep Swamp Creature State and is now just a big liar-pants.
Since Bannon is the first "playa" in this drama to publically state the obvious- that known cooperation with Russian intelligence operatives to influence the election is treasonous- this is an interesting development to say the least.
PS- it doesn't suck one bit to be proven right in my assessment of all this- which is all right there in print, earlier in this thread, and always will be.
Ever testify under oath? And, even if not under oath, lying to the FBI (assuming they do the questioning) is a felony. Consider Martha Stewart's all-expenses-paid vacation in Camp Cup Cake.
I think Bannon will be truthful to avoid a similar fate. We don't know what Muller has in the way of evidence and he's holding his cards very close to is chest; many of his questions will be to get Bannon (or any witness) to answer on things he already knows to judge their credibility.
Hahahaha. You guys dreamed up a reason to vote for those wbo wish to fill this country with muzzies and schitthole dimocraps? Hurry up. Maybe you can flip us.
Ever testify under oath? And, even if not under oath, lying to the FBI (assuming they do the questioning) is a felony. Consider Martha Stewart's all-expenses-paid vacation in Camp Cup Cake.
I think Bannon will be truthful to avoid a similar fate. We don't know what Muller has in the way of evidence and he's holding his cards very close to is chest; many of his questions will be to get Bannon (or any witness) to answer on things he already knows to judge their credibility.
Mueller is getting closer to being indicted in the Uranium One probe all the time. Lot of vile POS vermin are going to go down and likely soon. He's one of them. Lieberals are insane.
Just think, Jell0, if you libs hadnt been so stupid and made abortion legal, there would have been enough dimocrap votes years ago to have already made us subjects of Putin.
Your zeros are happy we are one of only 7 countries on the Earth that allows late term abortion. Your dnc hero the zero voted 3 times to kill a surviving baby of a botched abortion to be placed on a cold table in a cold room and left to die, but the guy really cares about pukes like you. Right.
LOL... Its good to see that JellO has found some new DNC/MSM light in his hole to inspire him to greater heights. He probably still need to change the bong water, however.
LOL... Its good to see that JellO has found some new DNC/MSM light in his hole to inspire him to greater heights. He probably still need to change the bong water, however.
No need for greater heights... he is already looking down on kites...
Uh, didn't the Clinton's take money DIRECTLY from Russia? Didn't Obama actively campaign against LePin and Netanyahu in the French and Israeli elections? Any of that "collusion" or "interfering" with their elections or ours?
You might be "just seeing this.." but you haven't seen the light.
You have pushed my humble slow starting thread to 61 pages.
Ron Hosko, former chief of the FBI’s criminal division, said the president has placed himself in a potentially “precarious” legal position that also will make a looming interview with Mueller’s investigators even more complicated. “If Mueller also has evidence that the Trump campaign coordinated with the Russians, the president’s attempt to fire Mueller only invites an obstruction charge,” Hosko said. “And if there is evidence of an underlying crime of collusion, I think you could see Mueller move very quickly.
Ok, here's the thing.
As I've said all along- yep it's here on the thread, several times, go look for yourselves- I'm not some rabid "resistance" member who wants Trump's head on a pike for whatever reason(s) can be drummed up. Obstruction charges, should they arise, need to be be very well grounded. Because, it's not like it's hard to imagine an innocent Trump reflexively lashing out in defense of his people; while that might be stupid, or even criminal, depending on what he did, THAT is not my concern here.
My concern here is that a winning POTUS candidate colluded with our main global adversary for the last 70+ years in order to influence and affect the exercise of democracy that it at the very core of what makes America America. That would be treasonous on its face. Such a POTUS would be utterly compromised. Completely unacceptable.
Dismayingly, what passes for the tattered shreds of the Right are trying like hell to turn this into a partisan thing. Look right straight in the mirror, gentle readers. Because guess what- even if people inside the FBI did think he was a pathological-liar buffoon who was utterly unsuited for the job, it's not because they were WRONG. Most of us thought that, even many who voted for him. And it turns out we were right. THINKING THAT is not evidence of a vast conspiracy. Thinking that is evidence of a functional brain. So, try as you might to turn this into a political shïtshow; at the end of the day it's completely legitimate and proper to get to the bottom of this regardless of what investigators may have thought about Trump under one specific set of circumstances: he and his campaign were in fact in collusion with Russia to affect the due process of American democracy.
So I will reiterate. The bar for my personal opinion as to whether I'll accept obstruction charges against Trump is pretty high: only if there is the underlying conspiracy that was being protected by this obstruction.
My bet (remember? that bet nobody would take?) has been that there was collusion. If, and only if, there WAS, then this ain't about a Deep State coup or whatever other fever-dream bullshït y'all have cooked up. It's about treason, and the proper response of those tasked with monitoring and prosecuting same.
This is what happens when you rely on liars, traitors and idiots for your information, you become the same, too.
Hopefully, all the media and demoncrap lies and subversion will prompt decent people in the country to shun these traitors and purge them from America so we can get back to being free and prosperous. MAGA!
Ron Hosko, former chief of the FBI’s criminal division, said the president has placed himself in a potentially “precarious” legal position that also will make a looming interview with Mueller’s investigators even more complicated. “If Mueller also has evidence that the Trump campaign coordinated with the Russians, the president’s attempt to fire Mueller only invites an obstruction charge,” Hosko said. “And if there is evidence of an underlying crime of collusion, I think you could see Mueller move very quickly.
Ok, here's the thing.
As I've said all along- yep it's here on the thread, several times, go look for yourselves- I'm not some rabid "resistance" member who wants Trump's head on a pike for whatever reason(s) can be drummed up. Obstruction charges, should they arise, need to be be very well grounded. Because, it's not like it's hard to imagine an innocent Trump reflexively lashing out in defense of his people; while that might be stupid, or even criminal, depending on what he did, THAT is not my concern here.
My concern here is that a winning POTUS candidate colluded with our main global adversary for the last 70+ years in order to influence and affect the exercise of democracy that it at the very core of what makes America America. That would be treasonous on its face. Such a POTUS would be utterly compromised. Completely unacceptable.
Dismayingly, what passes for the tattered shreds of the Right are trying like hell to turn this into a partisan thing. Look right straight in the mirror, gentle readers. Because guess what- even if people inside the FBI did think he was a pathological-liar buffoon who was utterly unsuited for the job, it's not because they were WRONG. Most of us thought that, even many who voted for him. And it turns out we were right. THINKING THAT is not evidence of a vast conspiracy. Thinking that is evidence of a functional brain. So, try as you might to turn this into a political shïtshow; at the end of the day it's completely legitimate and proper to get to the bottom of this regardless of what investigators may have thought about Trump under one specific set of circumstances: he and his campaign were in fact in collusion with Russia to affect the due process of American democracy.
So I will reiterate. The bar for my personal opinion as to whether I'll accept obstruction charges against Trump is pretty high: only if there is the underlying conspiracy that was being protected by this obstruction.
My bet (remember? that bet nobody would take?) has been that there was collusion. If, and only if, there WAS, then this ain't about a Deep State coup or whatever other fever-dream bullshït y'all have cooked up. It's about treason, and the proper response of those tasked with monitoring and prosecuting same.
With all respect, there's really something wrong with you ma'am.
Ron Hosko, former chief of the FBI’s criminal division, said the president has placed himself in a potentially “precarious” legal position that also will make a looming interview with Mueller’s investigators even more complicated. “If Mueller also has evidence that the Trump campaign coordinated with the Russians, the president’s attempt to fire Mueller only invites an obstruction charge,” Hosko said. “And if there is evidence of an underlying crime of collusion, I think you could see Mueller move very quickly.
Ok, here's the thing.
As I've said all along- yep it's here on the thread, several times, go look for yourselves- I'm not some rabid "resistance" member who wants Trump's head on a pike for whatever reason(s) can be drummed up. Obstruction charges, should they arise, need to be be very well grounded. Because, it's not like it's hard to imagine an innocent Trump reflexively lashing out in defense of his people; while that might be stupid, or even criminal, depending on what he did, THAT is not my concern here.
My concern here is that a winning POTUS candidate colluded with our main global adversary for the last 70+ years in order to influence and affect the exercise of democracy that it at the very core of what makes America America. That would be treasonous on its face. Such a POTUS would be utterly compromised. Completely unacceptable.
Dismayingly, what passes for the tattered shreds of the Right are trying like hell to turn this into a partisan thing. Look right straight in the mirror, gentle readers. Because guess what- even if people inside the FBI did think he was a pathological-liar buffoon who was utterly unsuited for the job, it's not because they were WRONG. Most of us thought that, even many who voted for him. And it turns out we were right. THINKING THAT is not evidence of a vast conspiracy. Thinking that is evidence of a functional brain. So, try as you might to turn this into a political shïtshow; at the end of the day it's completely legitimate and proper to get to the bottom of this regardless of what investigators may have thought about Trump under one specific set of circumstances: he and his campaign were in fact in collusion with Russia to affect the due process of American democracy.
So I will reiterate. The bar for my personal opinion as to whether I'll accept obstruction charges against Trump is pretty high: only if there is the underlying conspiracy that was being protected by this obstruction.
My bet (remember? that bet nobody would take?) has been that there was collusion. If, and only if, there WAS, then this ain't about a Deep State coup or whatever other fever-dream bullshït y'all have cooked up. It's about treason, and the proper response of those tasked with monitoring and prosecuting same.
Ron Hosko, former chief of the FBI’s criminal division, said the president has placed himself in a potentially “precarious” legal position that also will make a looming interview with Mueller’s investigators even more complicated. “If Mueller also has evidence that the Trump campaign coordinated with the Russians, the president’s attempt to fire Mueller only invites an obstruction charge,” Hosko said. “And if there is evidence of an underlying crime of collusion, I think you could see Mueller move very quickly.
Ok, here's the thing.
As I've said all along- yep it's here on the thread, several times, go look for yourselves- I'm not some rabid "resistance" member who wants Trump's head on a pike for whatever reason(s) can be drummed up. Obstruction charges, should they arise, need to be be very well grounded. Because, it's not like it's hard to imagine an innocent Trump reflexively lashing out in defense of his people; while that might be stupid, or even criminal, depending on what he did, THAT is not my concern here.
My concern here is that a winning POTUS candidate colluded with our main global adversary for the last 70+ years in order to influence and affect the exercise of democracy that it at the very core of what makes America America. That would be treasonous on its face. Such a POTUS would be utterly compromised. Completely unacceptable.
Dismayingly, what passes for the tattered shreds of the Right are trying like hell to turn this into a partisan thing. Look right straight in the mirror, gentle readers. Because guess what- even if people inside the FBI did think he was a pathological-liar buffoon who was utterly unsuited for the job, it's not because they were WRONG. Most of us thought that, even many who voted for him. And it turns out we were right. THINKING THAT is not evidence of a vast conspiracy. Thinking that is evidence of a functional brain. So, try as you might to turn this into a political shïtshow; at the end of the day it's completely legitimate and proper to get to the bottom of this regardless of what investigators may have thought about Trump under one specific set of circumstances: he and his campaign were in fact in collusion with Russia to affect the due process of American democracy.
So I will reiterate. The bar for my personal opinion as to whether I'll accept obstruction charges against Trump is pretty high: only if there is the underlying conspiracy that was being protected by this obstruction.
My bet (remember? that bet nobody would take?) has been that there was collusion. If, and only if, there WAS, then this ain't about a Deep State coup or whatever other fever-dream bullshït y'all have cooked up. It's about treason, and the proper response of those tasked with monitoring and prosecuting same.
There can be no doubt that Trump is covering up something. We don't yet know what it is, but he's desperate to prevent those findings from becoming known. He fired Comey to stop the investigation and then the following month ordered Mueller to be fired for the same reason.
We do know that the Russians meddled with the 2016 election, what we don't know is if anyone on the Trump campaign knowingly aided and abetted the Russian cyber attack on our Democracy. It will be interesting to see if Mueller found anything or not, I wouldn't bet on it either way.
Information collected by the Dutch Joint Sigint Cyber Unit (JSCU) was turned over to the NSA, CIA, and FBI, and helped form the basis for the U.S. special counsel investigation examining claims of Russian meddling during the 2016 presidential election campaign battle between current U.S. President Donald Trump and former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton. The JSCU, comprised of members from the AIVD and MIVD intelligence agencies, kept watch over Cozy Bear from anywhere between 12 to 30 months.
It started in the summer of 2014 "most likely before" the crash of Malaysia Airlines flight MH17, the Volkskrant reported. The flight, which originated in Amsterdam, was shot out of the sky over the Ukraine. The incident was suspected to be the act of Russian-backed separatists or Russian military.
That summer, the JSCU got word of an elite Moscow-based hacker group working from a university campus near Red Square. By November, the JSCU had infiltrated the Russian network, and accessed the camera, witnessing how, and likely who was involved in a massive cyber attack carried out against the United States.
"The NSA defenders, aided by the FBI, prevailed over the intruders, who were working for a Russian spy agency," the Washington Post wrote of the U.S. counter-attack, which took over a day to thwart. "The NSA was alerted to the compromises by a Western intelligence agency. The ally had managed to hack not only the Russians’ computers, but also the surveillance cameras inside their workspace, according to the former officials," the Post noted.
Cozy Bear, alternatively known as "The Dukes" and "APT29", is believed to be responsible for hacking attempts in the Netherlands, the NOS/Volkskrant report stated. They partnered with "Fancy Bear" to attack the DNC twice, including a 2015 attempt that was discovered by the Dutch team and revealed to the FBI.
The JSCU is no longer able to monitor Cozy Bear, but the Dutch news report did not detail why. However, the news outlets reported that Dutch officials were angered by the unnamed sources in the Washington Post report as that may have compromised the Dutch team. The story was published months after Trump took office.
It has led to the Dutch intelligence agencies becoming more hesitant at sharing information with U.S., particularly with Trump in the White House, the Volkskrant stated.
Former FBI Director and current special counsel Robert Mueller just this week indicated he would like to interview Trump as part of the Russia investigation, CNN reported. Mueller also wants to speak with former NSA head Michael Flynn, who pleaded guilty to lying to FBI investigators during a January 24, 2017, meeting, and Steve Bannon, Trump's former White House Chief of Staff.
"There can be no doubt that Trump is covering up something. We don't yet know what it is, but he's desperate to prevent those findings from becoming known. He fired Comey to stop the investigation and then the following month ordered Mueller to be fired for the same reason.
I'm sure Flynn will tell us what it is."
Source? Or is this from the same 'source' that CNN/NYT continually quote.
Trump is smarter than the morons who are against him. It's just that simple. He keeps winning because he is better at this game. All the butt-hurt democrats have only proven themselves delusional. This process is going to continue for the next 7 years. While you morons keep thinking Trump is on the ropes and about to go down, he keeps landing shots on his opposition's chin, and only those who have money on his opponents think they still have a chance in this fight.
I am not saying we should be complacent; we should keep fighting for our freedom. But Trump is going to keep on winning, because he is just smarter.
Bfd, jello. There are a lot of constututional scholars who think Mueller should be fired. Its an illegal investigation. Investigators are to be impartial. Tbere is not one on his team who donated to Trump. It has the appearence of impropriety that makes it illegal. It has investigators who are associates of principals which makes it illegal.
Alan Gershowitz says its illegal as collusion is not a crime.
It wasnt an investigation into Trump/Ruskie collusion. The investigators knew it was a made up story to enable them to try and coerce others to turn on Trump to impeach him. You thought there was Russia collusion. The fbi knew different. Thats why Strzok said there was no there there.
What if someone who didnt like you said you had cocaine on your property and they investigated and found the person lied and yet the cops didnt charge him with filing a false claim, but decided to keep investigating you with no evidence and drug your relztives and friends into it and investigated them to find stuff to coerce them into also falsely accusing you? Would you wish the investigator was fired.
Your reporter lied. Trump didnt try to fire mueller. He wanted to. Brains warped by hate cant see the difference.
Ron Hosko, former chief of the FBI’s criminal division, said the president has placed himself in a potentially “precarious” legal position that also will make a looming interview with Mueller’s investigators even more complicated. “If Mueller also has evidence that the Trump campaign coordinated with the Russians, the president’s attempt to fire Mueller only invites an obstruction charge,” Hosko said. “And if there is evidence of an underlying crime of collusion, I think you could see Mueller move very quickly.
Ok, here's the thing.
As I've said all along- yep it's here on the thread, several times, go look for yourselves- I'm not some rabid "resistance" member who wants Trump's head on a pike for whatever reason(s) can be drummed up. Obstruction charges, should they arise, need to be be very well grounded. Because, it's not like it's hard to imagine an innocent Trump reflexively lashing out in defense of his people; while that might be stupid, or even criminal, depending on what he did, THAT is not my concern here.
My concern here is that a winning POTUS candidate colluded with our main global adversary for the last 70+ years in order to influence and affect the exercise of democracy that it at the very core of what makes America America. That would be treasonous on its face. Such a POTUS would be utterly compromised. Completely unacceptable.
Dismayingly, what passes for the tattered shreds of the Right are trying like hell to turn this into a partisan thing. Look right straight in the mirror, gentle readers. Because guess what- even if people inside the FBI did think he was a pathological-liar buffoon who was utterly unsuited for the job, it's not because they were WRONG. Most of us thought that, even many who voted for him. And it turns out we were right. THINKING THAT is not evidence of a vast conspiracy. Thinking that is evidence of a functional brain. So, try as you might to turn this into a political shïtshow; at the end of the day it's completely legitimate and proper to get to the bottom of this regardless of what investigators may have thought about Trump under one specific set of circumstances: he and his campaign were in fact in collusion with Russia to affect the due process of American democracy.
So I will reiterate. The bar for my personal opinion as to whether I'll accept obstruction charges against Trump is pretty high: only if there is the underlying conspiracy that was being protected by this obstruction.
My bet (remember? that bet nobody would take?) has been that there was collusion. If, and only if, there WAS, then this ain't about a Deep State coup or whatever other fever-dream bullshït y'all have cooked up. It's about treason, and the proper response of those tasked with monitoring and prosecuting same.
There can be no doubt that Trump is covering up something. We don't yet know what it is, but he's desperate to prevent those findings from becoming known. He fired Comey to stop the investigation and then the following month ordered Mueller to be fired for the same reason.
I'm sure Flynn will tell us what it is.
Maybe in another 16 months they can come up with something.
Funny how hard they are working at making folks forget about illegal search warrants gotten under illegal and false pretenses with full knowledge of a sitting president...
Jell0, we know you are a lieberal, but you can not imagine how ridiculous your posts are.
I know you dont want to listen or see anything on Fox that could hurt your hopes and dreams that are stoked by tge Fake News stories that stoke your dreams from CNN, but you must admit you should know your enemy. Thus, i recommened you find out about the strength and weapons you and the left face in the pursuit of your dreams of nirvina, much as our generals did in WW2 in assesing the strength and weapons of opposing forces by examining the info gleaned from intel investigations.
Unfortunately, this would require you to extract your focus from feel good stories on CNN and maybe watch Hannity to see what the enemy has and wtf they are doing. I agree, the news you discover might be disconcerting, but at least you would be aware of your upcoming screwing.
At least you could come on the Fire and have a chance of acting like you have a clue as to WTF is really going on. Then, maybe you could come up with some intelligent stuff to back yourself up, and could avoid appearing as such a dumb fucgk.
Jeff is nothing but a pimple on a boils arse.. And soon enough he is going to pop..
If the present day DOJ and congress does its job, then the ovmit DOJ and high level FBI personnel are going to see hard time.. If they don't do their job then the U.S. is truly a "Banana Republic"..
My concern here is that a winning POTUS candidate colluded with our main global adversary for the last 70+ years in order to influence and affect the exercise of democracy that it at the very core of what makes America America. That would be treasonous on its face. Such a POTUS would be utterly compromised. Completely unacceptable.
The problem with this that the only evidence has come to light in a year of investigating and leaks shows that Hillary's campaign was the one doing the colluding (via Fusion GPS).
Start with this. Page wasn't even a part of the Trump campaign when the FISA application was made. He'd been booted a month before! Yeah, that's how you'd spy on The Donald.
Add this: Nunes (who is toast politically) very carefully omitted that the "political actors" behind Steele were first REPUBLICANS!
Such transparent bullshït. I'm quite certain half of y'all swallow it hook, line, sinker, bobber, pole, boat, and then, of course, the fisherman's cöck. that's a lot of swallowing, but, well, you've got practice. Congratulations?
Just since again half of y'all have lost your freaking minds I'll add the obvious elephant in the room: Mueller is coming; he's got proof*; and is he PISSED.
*unlike this absurd pretend "memo"
Laffin' here. I'm a fierce advocate for the Fourth- more so than most of y'all Drug Warriors, for sure- and it's all here in writing in past posts on this forum. So I waited to hear about these horrible FBI abuses before commenting because there sure as heck is potential for abuse in a surveillance state.
But hey numbnuts (yes, that's you): sniffing out spies and traitors in .gov is one legit reason for us to HAVE intelligence agencies!
Now get back to your regularly scheduled fever dream.
Start with this. Page wasn't even a part of the Trump campaign when the FISA application was made. He'd been booted a month before! Yeah, that's how you'd spy on The Donald.
Add this: Nunes (who is toast politically) very carefully omitted that the "political actors" behind Steele were first REPUBLICANS!
Such transparent bullshït. I'm quite certain half of y'all swallow it hook, line, sinker, bobber, pole, boat, and then, of course, the fisherman's cöck. that's a lot of swallowing, but, well, you've got practice. Congratulations?
Just since again half of y'all have lost your freaking minds I'll add the obvious elephant in the room: Mueller is coming; he's got proof*; and is he PISSED.
*unlike this absurd pretend "memo"
Laffin' here. I'm a fierce advocate for the Fourth- more so than most of y'all Drug Warriors, for sure- and it's all here in writing in past posts on this forum. So I waited to hear about these horrible FBI abuses before commenting because there sure as heck is potential for abuse in a surveillance state.
But hey numbnuts (yes, that's you): sniffing out spies and traitors in .gov is one legit reason for us to HAVE intelligence agencies!
Now get back to your regularly scheduled fever dream.
Hey, have they found any proof of Russian collusion yet? Asking for a friend.
Start with this. Page wasn't even a part of the Trump campaign when the FISA application was made. He'd been booted a month before! Yeah, that's how you'd spy on The Donald.
Add this: Nunes (who is toast politically) very carefully omitted that the "political actors" behind Steele were first REPUBLICANS!
Such transparent bullshït. I'm quite certain half of y'all swallow it hook, line, sinker, bobber, pole, boat, and then, of course, the fisherman's cöck. that's a lot of swallowing, but, well, you've got practice. Congratulations?
Just since again half of y'all have lost your freaking minds I'll add the obvious elephant in the room: Mueller is coming; he's got proof*; and is he PISSED.
*unlike this absurd pretend "memo"
Laffin' here. I'm a fierce advocate for the Fourth- more so than most of y'all Drug Warriors, for sure- and it's all here in writing in past posts on this forum. So I waited to hear about these horrible FBI abuses before commenting because there sure as heck is potential for abuse in a surveillance state.
But hey numbnuts (yes, that's you): sniffing out spies and traitors in .gov is one legit reason for us to HAVE intelligence agencies!
Now get back to your regularly scheduled fever dream.
Ummmm GarbageTruck Jeff Obama,
Have you seen this? it was reported 2 days ago,
"Against a newly discovered likelihood the Robert Mueller investigation began under false pretenses; and against the backdrop that FBI surveillance and wiretaps were obtained through materially (intentionally) false representations to the FISA court; and against the backdrop the original Flynn plea judge (Contrereas) was also the approving FISA judge; and that judge ‘was summarily recused’ from the case; and against increasing evidence that Mike Flynn was set up by a terminal animus, and politically-motivated investigative rogue unit, operating within the FBI; and against surfacing IG Horowitz evidence that FBI investigators manipulated (lied on) their FD-302 interrogation documents; and understanding those falsified 302’s were used in the Mueller/Flynn charging document…"
Start with this. Page wasn't even a part of the Trump campaign when the FISA application was made. He'd been booted a month before! Yeah, that's how you'd spy on The Donald.
Add this: Nunes (who is toast politically) very carefully omitted that the "political actors" behind Steele were first REPUBLICANS!
Such transparent bullshït. I'm quite certain half of y'all swallow it hook, line, sinker, bobber, pole, boat, and then, of course, the fisherman's cöck. that's a lot of swallowing, but, well, you've got practice. Congratulations?
Just since again half of y'all have lost your freaking minds I'll add the obvious elephant in the room: Mueller is coming; he's got proof*; and is he PISSED.
*unlike this absurd pretend "memo"
Laffin' here. I'm a fierce advocate for the Fourth- more so than most of y'all Drug Warriors, for sure- and it's all here in writing in past posts on this forum. So I waited to hear about these horrible FBI abuses before commenting because there sure as heck is potential for abuse in a surveillance state.
But hey numbnuts (yes, that's you): sniffing out spies and traitors in .gov is one legit reason for us to HAVE intelligence agencies!
Now get back to your regularly scheduled fever dream.
I'm quite certain half of y'all swallow it hook, line, sinker, bobber, pole, boat, and then, of course, the fisherman's cöck. that's a lot of swallowing, but, well, you've got practice. Congratulations?
Just since again half of y'all have lost your freaking minds I'll add the obvious elephant in the room: Mueller is coming; he's got proof*; and is he PISSED.
*unlike this absurd pretend "memo"
Laffin' here. I'm a fierce advocate for the Fourth- more so than most of y'all Drug Warriors, for sure- and it's all here in writing in past posts on this forum. So I waited to hear about these horrible FBI abuses before commenting because there sure as heck is potential for abuse in a surveillance state.
But hey numbnuts (yes, that's you): sniffing out spies and traitors in .gov is one legit reason for us to HAVE intelligence agencies!
Now get back to your regularly scheduled fever dream.
Start with this. Page wasn't even a part of the Trump campaign when the FISA application was made. He'd been booted a month before! Yeah, that's how you'd spy on The Donald.
Add this: Nunes (who is toast politically) very carefully omitted that the "political actors" behind Steele were first REPUBLICANS!
Such transparent bullshït. I'm quite certain half of y'all swallow it hook, line, sinker, bobber, pole, boat, and then, of course, the fisherman's cöck. that's a lot of swallowing, but, well, you've got practice. Congratulations?
Just since again half of y'all have lost your freaking minds I'll add the obvious elephant in the room: Mueller is coming; he's got proof*; and is he PISSED.
*unlike this absurd pretend "memo"
Laffin' here. I'm a fierce advocate for the Fourth- more so than most of y'all Drug Warriors, for sure- and it's all here in writing in past posts on this forum. So I waited to hear about these horrible FBI abuses before commenting because there sure as heck is potential for abuse in a surveillance state.
But hey numbnuts (yes, that's you): sniffing out spies and traitors in .gov is one legit reason for us to HAVE intelligence agencies!
Now get back to your regularly scheduled fever dream.
FWIW, two top level FBI officials reviewed the memo and said there were no factual inaccuracies. It matters not that Republicans commissioned opposition research. That happens with every high level election. And for that matter it doesn't matter that Hillary and the Dems continued with it. What does matter is that the very best and brightest in our FBI and DOJ presented that opposition research as intelligence in their application for a FISA warrant, and they did so without letting the FISA judge know that it was unverified Democratic funded opposition research? That's kinda important. Even that dumbass Mueller knows it's problematic and that's why he backed off sentencing Flynn.
Comey knowingly leaked FBI classified memos to his professor buddy Danny Richman with instructions to give it to the NYT's. Comey hoped these revelations, largely coming from his "notes" on conversations with POTUS would trigger a special counsel - yes it did - his other buddy - Bob Mueller.
Comey will need an XXL/TALL orange jumpsuit. If he has Amazon Prime, he could get it in two days with no shipping charge.
Comey will need an XXL/TALL orange jumpsuit. If he has Amazon Prime, he could get it in two days with no shipping charge.
That's a hell of an idea.
Wonder if it'd be illegal ta have one sent to the SOB.
Wow I like the way you think! What a capital idea. Someone check Walmart to see what a cheap orange jumpsuit would cost and a stencil reading "Enjoy your time in JAIL!!!"
Comey will need an XXL/TALL orange jumpsuit. If he has Amazon Prime, he could get it in two days with no shipping charge.
That's a hell of an idea.
Wonder if it'd be illegal ta have one sent to the SOB.
Wow I like the way you think! What a capital idea. Someone check Walmart to see what a cheap orange jumpsuit would cost and a stencil reading "Enjoy your time in JAIL!!!"
Notice how the Leftists get more shrill as the are backed into a corner?
JeffO now reminds me of HRC when she was shreaking "what difference does it make now?"
16 months on collusion = nothing 10 months on the FBI = Good time Comey's got the blues. Obama might need to dig up his Indonesia passport is this gets linked to his White House
Start with this. Page wasn't even a part of the Trump campaign when the FISA application was made. He'd been booted a month before! Yeah, that's how you'd spy on The Donald.
Add this: Nunes (who is toast politically) very carefully omitted that the "political actors" behind Steele were first REPUBLICANS!
Such transparent bullshït. I'm quite certain half of y'all swallow it hook, line, sinker, bobber, pole, boat, and then, of course, the fisherman's cöck. that's a lot of swallowing, but, well, you've got practice. Congratulations?
Just since again half of y'all have lost your freaking minds I'll add the obvious elephant in the room: Mueller is coming; he's got proof*; and is he PISSED.
*unlike this absurd pretend "memo"
Laffin' here. I'm a fierce advocate for the Fourth- more so than most of y'all Drug Warriors, for sure- and it's all here in writing in past posts on this forum. So I waited to hear about these horrible FBI abuses before commenting because there sure as heck is potential for abuse in a surveillance state.
But hey numbnuts (yes, that's you): sniffing out spies and traitors in .gov is one legit reason for us to HAVE intelligence agencies!
Now get back to your regularly scheduled fever dream.
The queen of cherry pickers opens his corkhole. Jeff and his bbc addiction is truly pathetic.
Notice how the Leftists get more shrill as the are backed into a corner?
JeffO now reminds me of HRC when she was shreaking "what difference does it make now?"
16 months on collusion = nothing 10 months on the FBI = Good time Comey's got the blues. Obama might need to dig up his Indonesia passport is this gets linked to his White House
The sooner you guys realize JeffObama is a habitual, pathological, self-absorbing, effete, troll, the sooner you will ignore him. Then again, I enjoy insulting his "falling off a ladder PTSD homoness"
"When you're attacking FBI agents because you're under criminal investigation, you're losing." -Sarah Huckabee Sanders, tweeting on Nov. 3, 2016.
A'yup. Thanks for that statement of the obvious, Mrs. Sanders.
"When you caught over and over and over again in lies about something, you are very likely guilty of that which you are lying about." -JeffO
"Thanks for that statement of the obvious, JeffO! " -what y'all SHOULD be typing next.
Still lol'ing about that farce of a memo that actually shows the opposite of what it was "supposed" to.
Also lol'ing that some retards (if that's YOU, I'm sorry you're a retard) seem to think this vacuous "memo" stupidity will mean diddly-squat once Mueller drops his report showing massive criminal activity by the Trump folks.
Also lol'ing that some retards (if that's YOU, I'm sorry you're a retard) seem to think this vacuous "memo" stupidity will mean diddly-squat once Mueller drops his report showing massive criminal activity by the Trump folks.
Not one page, not one word... Nothing for evidence.
Despite a news story running for a year and a half about Russia, the best you liberals can do is a paid for by Hillary fake Russian dossier which was used to illegally spy on Americans with 4th amendment rights.
Keep wet dreaming though...
How many times (In just this thread alone), have you told us... "just wait for this"... "Just wait for that"... Hmmm?
"When you're attacking FBI agents because you're under criminal investigation, you're losing." -Sarah Huckabee Sanders, tweeting on Nov. 3, 2016.
A'yup. Thanks for that statement of the obvious, Mrs. Sanders.
"When you caught over and over and over again in lies about something, you are very likely guilty of that which you are lying about." -JeffO
"Thanks for that statement of the obvious, JeffO! " -what y'all SHOULD be typing next.
Still lol'ing about that farce of a memo that actually shows the opposite of what it was "supposed" to.
Also lol'ing that some retards (if that's YOU, I'm sorry you're a retard) seem to think this vacuous "memo" stupidity will mean diddly-squat once Mueller drops his report showing massive criminal activity by the Trump folks.
JeffO,
I don't know if you have noticed but we have several threads going at one time on these issues. In these threads we discuss evidence, process and facts. In other words informed adults having serious conversation.
Then we have you on this thread, name calling, avoiding the evidence by not even acknowledging it. You repeat CNN talking points and other MSM talking points. You use child like emotion to make your point.
You have been asked repeatedly to provide evidence of your collusion claims and you refuse or maybe you cant? All you seem to have is Mueller is going to drop a bombshell and expose Trump as a Russian agent? Mueller has spent a year and millions of dollars and all he has is Flynn lying? really a so called key witness is now a convicted liar? kinda ruins his future credibility as any kind of a witness?
Also we have Mueller charging Manafort with what, money laundering? these accusations pre-date Manaforts association with Trump. So seems Mueller is a nothing burger, yet you are convinced of some bombshell? please share your evidence that leads you to that conclusion with us, enlighten us. Also would you please address the contents of the memo rather than just dismissing it. If you would do these things maybe you would get more respect here?
Still lol'ing about that farce of a memo that actually shows the opposite of what it was "supposed" to.
I can believe you, or Alan Dershowitz. He says Trump's done nothing, zero, nada illegal. You lose.
Originally Posted by Jeff_Obama
Also lol'ing that some retards (if that's YOU, I'm sorry you're a retard) seem to think this vacuous "memo" stupidity will mean diddly-squat once Mueller drops his report showing massive criminal activity by the Trump folks.
This memo is the opening salvo on this one.
Mueller has zero beyond Flynn, and all he has there is "lying to investigators". Wooo, I'm afraid! You're looking more and more like a drowning man who will cling to anything offering hope for your political life.
You lost You continue to lose You will not take the House or Senate in Nov Trump never gets impeached Trump is re-elected in 2020 Your anti-depressants will become more and more ineffective as your clinical depression ruins your life.
Don't blame Trump for your troubles, blame Hillary. You hitched your hopes and dreams to that hag and she failed you.
When you come back here and acknowledge that it is Hillary Rodham Clinton your are furious at, and then want to debate the merits of his agenda, let me know. Until then, talk with your counselor about the origins of your emotional and psychologic illness: the fact you were sure Hillary would at this moment leading the Progressive/Socialist cause in the World. Your vision of government control overseen by an international body would now be at hand. People of the World would be free of borders, and the need for good honest work because food, housing, healthcare would be universal rights paid for by the few remaining taxpayers.
Your World would erase Western Culture and embrace the unembraceable; Islam is cool, Sharia is cool, reverse discrimination is cool, smoking weed q24/7 is cool, abortion on demand is cool, erasing Caucasians from this planet will be uber cool, just have the immigrants breed with the White girls and have Brown babies. In 40 years, Voilå! No White people left.
Except you, uh, wait. If you are around you'll be a target. Never considered that did you? Thought Islam would let you slide? You thought BLM would consider you a friend of the cause? You never envisioned that unrestricted immigration would make cities uninhabitable like Detroit, most of Chicago, El Paso, Laredo. What, did I mention police in Albuquerque have identified 32+ Hispanic gangs there? Yeah, coming soon to your neighborhood to beat your ass and take your weed and women.
Hillary's World vs. Trumps World. If you want Hillary's, then move to Benghazi. She was a fixture there. If you love immigration, Just skip down the coast to Tijuana. Live in a walled compound for fear of invasion and break ins. Live on a street strewn with dirty diapers and garbage. Live in a country where there is zero opportunity for upward social and economic mobility unless you leave.
I am still just lol'ing my little lol'er off about this ridiculous memo. Another Nunes belly flop. As I said, he's toast.
That Trump would claim total vindication based on THAT is, well, typical I suppose. That anyone with a brain would agree is embarrassing.
Yep. Some of you guys are literally an embarrassment. Congratulations?
Lol
"House Oversight Committee Chairman Trey Gowdy, R-S.C. - who spent endless time on the Benghazi investigation - was the only one on the Intelligence Committee to see the underlying intelligence. He gave Nunes's effort a failing grade. "As I have said repeatedly, I also remain 100 percent confident in Special Counsel Robert Mueller," he tweeted. "The contents of this memo do not - in any way - discredit his investigation." "
Bwa ha ha. It's good thing all y'all are so [bleep] delusional or you wouldn't be able to look at yourselves in the mirror without laffin'. Which is what I'm doing right now: laffin'. At YOU. Jesus wept.
This 💩head deserves every bit of ridicule he gets. Jeffdoh that is. As with all liberals/dimorats they can not answer specific questions. They follow the CNN montra and as we all know how reliable they are. Jeff your an idiot plain and simple. Keep puffing away and your bong and go away.
I really think its you libs who are retarded, Jell0. Your heros are so retarded they cant see Russian collusion when its right in front of their face. They would be bank robbers who hit mom and pop grocers.
They cant win elections without cheating.
They cant get free health insurance for dope heads without having a lying zero tell lies in order to steal the money of working people to get it.
They cant get voters without trying to get the vote of inmates, dope heads, illegal aliens, muzzy refugees, qquueers, etc.
I could go on but Jell0 wouldnt be able to remember it.
I] Yep. Some of you guys are literally an embarrassment. Congratulations?
Lol
"House Oversight Committee Chairman Trey Gowdy, R-S.C. - who spent endless time on the Benghazi investigation - was the only one on the Intelligence Committee to see the underlying intelligence. He gave Nunes's effort a failing grade. "As I have said repeatedly, I also remain 100 percent confident in Special Counsel Robert Mueller," he tweeted. "The contents of this memo do not - in any way - discredit his investigation." "
Bwa ha ha. It's good thing all y'all are so [bleep] delusional or you wouldn't be able to look at yourselves in the mirror without laffin'. Which is what I'm doing right now: laffin'. At YOU. Jesus wept.
You are the delusional one. Nobody says this memo is about the phony Russia/Trump connection. This is about the intelligence community, the DOJ, the Clintons/the Obama admin using the power of the government to unlawfully spy on a political adversary. A separate, and far more compelling story.
Your idiotic rants and spins are unmasking you as the far Left Troll you are, no longer a sleeper troll here. You and Paddler and DJS and Greygoat, and Dumbtruck are outed as the Campfire 5th column. As it becomes more obvious that your vision of a Socialist Utopia under Rodham the 1st will never be, the reality of Trump unsettles you more. As he advances his agenda, as the market and economy boom, as he step by step undoes the damage inflicted by your Hate America First Citizen of the World Barack Obama. The more frantic and nonsensical your posts become. Democrat spinmeister talking points hot off your email. Alinsky at work "press the negative until it breaks through, ridicule as a weapon, keep the pressure on. Problem is, Trump is doing the same to you and is better at it. Go on, love on Van Jones, Anderson Cooper, or Butchy Madow. They will absolutely come unglued when the GOP retains the House and gains 3-4 seats in the Senate this Fall. See, people want security and a strong economy. Trumps OWNS that right now, so "Bwaahaahaa!" right back atcha. MAGA!
The lib's are losing their chit. They cant handle Trump and he is running circles around them. Watch Jello and crew get crazier as Trump stomps them into the mud.
The lib's are losing their chit. They cant handle Trump and he is running circles around them. Watch Jello and crew get crazier as Trump stomps them into the mud.
Woohoo, good times
"Good Times" for sure!! And jeff0 posting here just adds frosting to the cake..
Lived in that [bleep] OR for to long. Got the goody out of it before it went totally to crap. Made a lot of money off those liberal POS and got the heck out. Place is way to full of jello and his ilk.
The lib's are losing their chit. They cant handle Trump and he is running circles around them. Watch Jello and crew get crazier as Trump stomps them into the mud.
Woohoo, good times
Expect just that leading up to the November Mid terms. They are going to go all out full court press. The Left WILL come out and vote because they are desperate. I expect the MSM to spew volumes of nonsense. They do not, rep[eat do not want Mueller to wrap up his investigation until AFTER the elections. They know he has nothing, and are preparing to attempt to try to make nothing an issue. They want it hanging in November, not old news.
They will be loud, shrill, and in our face. With defeat, they will be momentarily crushed as they hunt for someone to run against Trump in 2020. They have no one. Bernie is the best name recognition and he's an ancient kook.
Judging by the stupidity revealed by Jell0s post it is evident he gets his news and knowledge (or lack thereof) from CNN, MSNBC and Dimocrap Underground.
Apparently he doesnt even read the threads on the Fire concerning the facts surrounding the Dossier. Its probably best that he doesnt expose himself to the facts as he probably isnt man enough to handle the truth without stroking out.
Yes, living in a rose colored bubble is probably an act of self preservation.
JellO is typical of west coast liberals and the Orgonians are some of the worst and craziest. The dirt hippies have been leaving Calif. for many years due to cost of living. They headed to Oregon, they are the dirty poor liberals as opposed to the limousine liberals of Calif.
Although Calif. is on the fast track to 3rd world status with a huge divide between the haves and the have nots.
JeffObama spends his existence in a marijuana induced falling of a ladder PTSD exacerbated delusional cloud and of course he is the very definition a troll.
Jorge, I guess one thing thats so disgusting about him is that he told us that if there was Clinton/DNC wrongdoings hr wanted that truth out and wanted it investigated and pursued.
Evidently he has also become a liar, as he wants now to totally ignore his own word.
As we know, a man is no better than his own words.
I wonder if he even knows the MEMO indicts Comey and Comey didnt even dispute his trampling of the Constitution.
Comey responded "Thats it", indicating to him there is no problem with govt agencies illegally interfrring in elections or lying to judges in order to illegally spy on American citizens.
Maybe if Trump gets the Swamp drained Jell0 would be ok with NSA and the FBI surveilling him for any illegal activities, but I doubt it.
He's turned into a drive by sniper. Takes a few pot shots and he's off. Paddler too. They are probably part of the Leftist gadflies that have orders to frequent as many conservative sites as possible and to keep things stirred up. The word for them is agitators. Communist insurgents made good use of agitators since the Bolshevik Revolution of 1917. They agitated throughout Europe between the wars with a sole purpose of destabilizing society and to tear down the existing political and moral structure of the countries.
Tactic is still alive and well with the Left. MLK used it in the '60s. Hosea Williams and John Lewis were King's agitators. They'd go to the town a few days before King would show up for a march or a speech and get the locals organized and all stirred up.
Social media now has an unlimited army to agitate and attack from behind a keyboard and from any location in the world. I wend under attack from the Animal Rights bunch after the hoopla over the Doc killing Clarence the Cross Eyed lion (look him up ) a few years ago. Hacked form GB and NZ, Canada in addition to the US. Vile, nasty lot that can give you a head ache in a hurry. Fortunately, there are ways to punish them.
Jorge, I guess one thing thats so disgusting about him is that he told us that if there was Clinton/DNC wrongdoings hr wanted that truth out and wanted it investigated and pursued.
Evidently he has also become a liar, as he wants now to totally igmore his own word.
As we know, a man is no better than his own words.
I wonder if he even knows the MEMO indicts Comey and Comey didnt even dispute his trampling of the Constitution.
Comey responded "Thats it", indicating to him there is now problem with govt agencies illegally interfrring in elections or lying to judges in order to illegally spy on American citizens.
Maybe if Trump gets the Swamp drained Jell0 would be ok with NSA and the FBI surveilling him for any illegal activities, but I doubt it.
Myself and others here, have been publicly embarrassing this moron here for years and he keeps coming back for more (for a while there, we were blessed by his absence). During th early 2000, he was a military hating scumbag, who admitted voting for obama claiming he (obama) was not anti gun. He lies, baits and trolls and has absolutely zero self respect and the horror is he has offspring...
So, he and Paddler are probably paid commie organizers. Strangely they dont go to Russia or China and provide us with glowing reports of the happiness of the proletariat.
Jorge, I guess one thing thats so disgusting about him is that he told us that if there was Clinton/DNC wrongdoings hr wanted that truth out and wanted it investigated and pursued.
Evidently he has also become a liar, as he wants now to totally igmore his own word.
As we know, a man is no better than his own words.
I wonder if he even knows the MEMO indicts Comey and Comey didnt even dispute his trampling of the Constitution.
Comey responded "Thats it", indicating to him there is now problem with govt agencies illegally interfrring in elections or lying to judges in order to illegally spy on American citizens.
Maybe if Trump gets the Swamp drained Jell0 would be ok with NSA and the FBI surveilling him for any illegal activities, but I doubt it.
Myself and others here, have been publicly embarrassing this moron here for years and he keeps coming back for more (for a while there, we were blessed by his absence). During th early 2000, he was a military hating scumbag, who admitted voting for obama claiming he (obama) was not anti gun. He lies, baits and trolls and has absolutely zero self respect and the horror is he has offspring...
Your timeline is off a bit, O was not elected until '08... but the essence is fact.
I don't know what is is about being an alt.right Trumptard that leads people to bald-face lying; perhaps it's just following Trumps lead? Hell if I know. Beyond that I'm guessing it's that a) the core Trump supporters, what's left of them, are very gullible and easily propagandize due to their comical levels of paranoia, and proclivity towards wild conspiracy theories (you might ask yourselves if you resemble that remark) (but you won't) and b) these same core supporters are living in an alternative-facts bubble (ditto) (and ditto) where actual facts apparently have minimal weight.
But this is just ridiculous, and one more reason Nunes has zero credibility left. THIS, my dear precious alt.right friends, is a bald-faced dirty lie of the first order from someone who is currently propagandizing your bubble-boy asses.
"As far as we can tell, Papadopoulos never even knew who Trump was — never even met with the president,” Nunes said."
There's direct photographic evidence to the contrary in the public domain. I'm not even going to take the time to link to the [bleep] photo. Too easy. There's no WAY Nunes is unaware of this. He's a [bleep] liar. And yet it "works" because within the alt.right bubble what's actually true doesn't seem to matter much; what matter is that those idiots (apologies to the idiots here) get their propaganda needs met so they can keep this absurd fake reality of theirs airborn*. I promise you that millions of Americans today are smugly yammering amongst themselves about how Papadoulous never even met Trump. Now you know it's a lie. You gonna tell any other bubble-boys, correct the dialog now that you know this? I seriously doubt it.
*Like kids playing the game where you don't let a beach ball hit the ground. Except the kids are pretending to be anti-establishment insurgents (though they come from the demographic that DEFINES "the establishment") and the beach ball is a big sack of bullshït.
And seperatly, Nunes is now walking back his lie about the FISA court not being told that the dossier was paid for by partisan actors. He's been sitting on this POS "memo" for MONTHS and he's seen the deep intel; like he didn't know this?! Again, this is bald-face dirty lying of the first order.
Nunes is a proven lying sack of shït with no credibility because.... wait for it.... he's a proven lying sack of shït. Donald Trump has this same "minor" issue. Everything he's said about "Russia" has been one long stream of lies followed by attempted walk-backs. All y'all have guzzled his lies like Stormy Daniels taking a money shot. Congratulations, fellas. Golf clap.
Here is something that is true. The laws that the Trump campaign and probably Trump himself broke are real. Mueller is real. People are going to jail. All these BS attempts to stop his investigation will blow away like so much chaff in the winds of, well, actual demonstratable reality.
Until the next round of alt.right bald-faced lies,
And seperatly, Nunes is now walking back his lie about the FISA court not being told that the dossier was paid for by partisan actors. He's been sitting on this POS "memo" for MONTHS and he's seen the deep intel; like he didn't know this?! Again, this is bald-face dirty lying of the first order.
Nunes is a proven lying sack of shït with no credibility because.... wait for it.... he's a proven lying sack of shït. Donald Trump has this same "minor" issue. Everything he's said about "Russia" has been one long stream of lies followed by attempted walk-backs. All y'all have guzzled his lies like Stormy Daniels taking a money shot. Congratulations, fellas. Golf clap.
Here is something that is true. The laws that the Trump campaign and probably Trump himself broke are real. Mueller is real. People are going to jail. All these BS attempts to stop his investigation will blow away like so much chaff in the winds of, well, actual demonstratable reality.
Until the next round of alt.right bald-faced lies,
Your pal,
-jeff
What the hell are you babbling about?Do you think McCabe lied about using mud slinging foolishness from DNC and Clinton to wire tap Trump Tower.Did Comey lie?What crime did Trump commit?The only foreign agent interfering with the election was Steele.FBI admits that dossier is just champagne BS.They used it any way.
And seperatly, Nunes is now walking back his lie about the FISA court not being told that the dossier was paid for by partisan actors. He's been sitting on this POS "memo" for MONTHS and he's seen the deep intel; like he didn't know this?! Again, this is bald-face dirty lying of the first order.
Nunes is a proven lying sack of shït with no credibility because.... wait for it.... he's a proven lying sack of shït. Donald Trump has this same "minor" issue. Everything he's said about "Russia" has been one long stream of lies followed by attempted walk-backs. All y'all have guzzled his lies like Stormy Daniels taking a money shot. Congratulations, fellas. Golf clap.
Here is something that is true. The laws that the Trump campaign and probably Trump himself broke are real. Mueller is real. People are going to jail. All these BS attempts to stop his investigation will blow away like so much chaff in the winds of, well, actual demonstratable reality.
Until the next round of alt.right bald-faced lies,
Your pal,
-jeff
You trifling mental midget, don't you understand that while they told FISA the author of the document may, not did, have had political proclivities, they never ever mentioned the document was paid for by the lying horrid communist DNC and the most wretched woman in the world, dispectable Hillary Clinton, both obviously and undeniably criminals and liars of the worst kind and direct opponents to a prosperous and free America, and also to Donald Trump who is not making it both more prosperous and free.
You should just go away. You are brain dead and worthless beyond measure without a clue.
And seperatly, Nunes is now walking back his lie about the FISA court not being told that the dossier was paid for by partisan actors. He's been sitting on this POS "memo" for MONTHS and he's seen the deep intel; like he didn't know this?! Again, this is bald-face dirty lying of the first order.
Nunes is a proven lying sack of shït with no credibility because.... wait for it.... he's a proven lying sack of shït. Donald Trump has this same "minor" issue. Everything he's said about "Russia" has been one long stream of lies followed by attempted walk-backs. All y'all have guzzled his lies like Stormy Daniels taking a money shot. Congratulations, fellas. Golf clap.
Here is something that is true. The laws that the Trump campaign and probably Trump himself broke are real. Mueller is real. People are going to jail. All these BS attempts to stop his investigation will blow away like so much chaff in the winds of, well, actual demonstratable reality.
Until the next round of alt.right bald-faced lies,
Your pal,
-jeff
Am I the only one that interprets this as a tantrum of desperation? Drive by and throw another stink bomb into the Campfire?
Usually, as this type gets painted into a corner, they become more shrill and less rational. What are you seeing?
The truth will hit him in 2020, when déjà vu sweeps over him and he is engulfed by the same emotions of shock and horror he felt in November, 2016.
Please note that he hasn't said anything positive about the unemployment rate dropping to record lows, or about the number of people off the welfare rolls, nor increased domestic energy production that limits our reliance of the Middle East. He hasn't mentioned that ISIS is a fraction of what it was a year ago. He hasn't mentioned that Putin hasn't screwed with the Ukraine since Trump came to office.
How about something positive about our country? In his mind, I'm sure Obama is responsible for all that. So how come it didn't happen under his watch and exploded under Trump? He will hate America as long as Trump is in the WH.
Meanwhile, all he can do is carry on like a 3rd Grader about some irrelevant fiction that his Party duped up on Russia to give THEM an explanation of why their slam dunk candidate won. It couldn't have been that HRC is the most objectionable hag in the universe? Couldn't be that her deteriorating physical condition and her outright hostility toward 50% of the voters (deplorables) hurt her candidacy? Nope, had to an outside agency. Since the Left does not believe in God or HIS work, must have been the Russians. you know, in Vlad we trust, and all of that.
"As far as we can tell, Papadopoulos never even knew who Trump was — never even met with the president,” Nunes said."
There's direct photographic evidence to the contrary in the public domain. I'm not even going to take the time to link to the [bleep] photo. Too easy. There's no WAY Nunes is unaware of this. He's a [bleep] liar.
I have had my photo taken with people who don't know who I am. As crazy as this sounds, photo ops are often that way.
"As far as we can tell, Papadopoulos never even knew who Trump was — never even met with the president,” Nunes said."
There's direct photographic evidence to the contrary in the public domain. I'm not even going to take the time to link to the [bleep] photo. Too easy. There's no WAY Nunes is unaware of this. He's a [bleep] liar.
I have had my photo taken with people who don't know who I am. As crazy as this sounds, photo ops are often that way.
There is a photo, Nunes isn't the sharpest knife in the drawer, I do find it hard to believe he didn't know about it, link to photo.
"As far as we can tell, Papadopoulos never even knew who Trump was — never even met with the president,” Nunes said."
There's direct photographic evidence to the contrary in the public domain. I'm not even going to take the time to link to the [bleep] photo. Too easy. There's no WAY Nunes is unaware of this. He's a [bleep] liar.
I have had my photo taken with people who don't know who I am. As crazy as this sounds, photo ops are often that way.
There is a photo, Nunes isn't the sharpest knife in the drawer, I do find it hard to believe he didn't know about it, link to photo.
I have been to a number of meetings of that size where I didn't know all of the other members. If you asked me a few days after the meeting if I knew them by name, I would not. Does that make me a liar?
We are all wrong and the genius Jell0 is right again. There, feel better now, Jeff?
Hat, i hate to say it but do you not agree that the last couple of Jell0s posts indicate he is possibly losing touch with reality? It seems to me hes showing signs of going off the deep end.
We are all wrong and the genius Jell0 is right again. There, feel better now, Jeff?
Hat, i hate to say it but do you not agree that the last couple of Jell0s posts indicate he is possibly losing touch with reality? It seems to me hes showing signs of going off the deep end.
Desperate times for desperate people. Russia/Trump is a fizzling farce, and now there is ample proof linking Hillary, the DNC to Steele and the FBI. THAT is a problem for JellO and those types.
The looney Left thought that they could milk this Mueller stuff to the point that either they trip trump up on a misstatement and attack him for perjury al la Bill Clinton or milk it past the November elections praying they take the House and the Senate (yeah, right ) to attempt to remove Trump that way.
The SOTU Address rained all on them. Their hand sitting -especially the Congressional Black Caucus - blew up in their faces. When Trump told the whole country that Black unemployment was at its lowest level EVER, and the CBC sat on their hands, Black America saw what those fools with the African bullschitt around their necks really are: poverty pimps and Pelosi lackeys fighting the war of the 1960's that no longer needs fighting. Blacks are now starting to leave the Democrat Plantation, and as some do, more will be emboldened to follow their conscious and leave.
It's not a good time to be a Dem. Trump is beating them left and right. Their best attacks of ridicule and pressure have failed. The Dow had its biggest dump ever, and all it did was go back to December levels. that's how good things are.
"As far as we can tell, Papadopoulos never even knew who Trump was — never even met with the president,” Nunes said."
There's direct photographic evidence to the contrary in the public domain. I'm not even going to take the time to link to the [bleep] photo. Too easy. There's no WAY Nunes is unaware of this. He's a [bleep] liar.
I have had my photo taken with people who don't know who I am. As crazy as this sounds, photo ops are often that way.
There is a photo, Nunes isn't the sharpest knife in the drawer, I do find it hard to believe he didn't know about it, link to photo.
Desperate times for desperate people. Russia/Trump is a fizzling farce, and now there is ample proof linking Hillary, the DNC to Steele and the FBI. THAT is a problem for JellO and those types.
The looney Left thought that they could milk this Mueller stuff to the point that either they trip trump up on a misstatement and attack him for perjury al la Bill Clinton or milk it past the November elections praying they take the House and the Senate (yeah, right ) to attempt to remove Trump that way.
The SOTU Address rained all on them. Their hand sitting -especially the Congressional Black Caucus - blew up in their faces. When Trump told the whole country that Black unemployment was at its lowest level EVER, and the CBC sat on their hands, Black America saw what those fools with the African bullschitt around their necks really are: poverty pimps and Pelosi lackeys fighting the war of the 1960's that no longer needs fighting. Blacks are now starting to leave the Democrat Plantation, and as some do, more will be emboldened to follow their conscious and leave.
It's not a good time to be a Dem. Trump is beating them left and right. Their best attacks of ridicule and pressure have failed. The Dow had its biggest dump ever, and all it did was go back to December levels. that's how good things are.
Proof found Obama was in the loop, too. Page told her lover the POTUS wanted to know everything in a recently discovered text. Stupid lieberal morons who voted for this traitor need to lose the right to vote among other things.
Read the Wray-Grassley memo. First page,first paragraph directly states money was funnelled to Fusion GPS from the DNC and Clinton Campaign. Long way? No, straight to the point.
Pretty telling that POTUS is such a habitual LIAR that his counsel doesn't want him to sit for an interview out of fear he'll lie and/or contradict prior statements he's made.
What it brings into focus is Trump's apparent belief that if HE wants something to be "true", he can, by force of personality, make it so. We've seen this over and over and over with him. His problem now is that the special prosecutor's office (and for that matter the rule of law in general) doesn't operate on that principle; rather, the words that comprise our various laws and the Constitution actually possess meaning beyond Trumps sticky grasp; beyond his ability to basically bullshit his way through to a self-serving alternative-facts-based "truth" of his own liking and creation.
It's a microcosm for the whole conservative movement in the last decade: all y'all seem to think if you just yell loud enough and keep the circle-jerk going and stay in your news bubble you can just create a reality that's seperate from the observable, testable realities that folks normally operate within. While it apparently gives you comfort, it's actually very snowflaky if you think about it: reality hurts your precious feelers so you pitch a fit and spin, spin, spin. Again I can only offer this: golf clap.
Anyway, the moral and intellectual vacuousness of such an approach notwithstanding, it's also just fücking retarded. Circling back, for example A of this look no further than the fact that our POTUS cannot have a conversation that matters because he just plain lies too much and/or can't keep track of actual reality as it relates to his attempts to manufacture same.
What it brings into focus is Trump's apparent belief that if HE wants something to be "true", he can, by force of personality, make it so.
If so, in that regard you could be twins.
Did you see where your homosexual, obama, directed the FBI to keep him apprised of the FBI treason to subvert the election on or before Sept 2, 2016. Then he goes on national TV to claim he has no knowledge about FBI business. Now of course, it is not typically FBI business to subvert elections, unless their boss, the POTUS tells them to, which obviously he did.Zero's going down and hopefully all the lieberals with him.
There is no special prosecutor in this situation, only a worn out old man who is going to be spending the rest of his life behind bars, and given the number he put there, that life will not be long.
Chit is piling up all around you, Jeffy and yet you speak of morals, of which lieberals have none. I see the most immoral among you started taking about morality a few months ago. Are you just now getting the message. The most moral thing, they or you could do, would be to suck start a Glock. Go for it.
Pretty telling that POTUS is such a habitual LIAR that his counsel doesn't want him to sit for an interview out of fear he'll lie and/or contradict prior statements he's made.
What it brings into focus is Trump's apparent belief that if HE wants something to be "true", he can, by force of personality, make it so. We've seen this over and over and over with him. His problem now is that the special prosecutor's office (and for that matter the rule of law in general) doesn't operate on that principle; rather, the words that comprise our various laws and the Constitution actually possess meaning beyond Trumps sticky grasp; beyond his ability to basically bullshit his way through to a self-serving alternative-facts-based "truth" of his own liking and creation.
It's a microcosm for the whole conservative movement in the last decade: all y'all seem to think if you just yell loud enough and keep the circle-jerk going and stay in your news bubble you can just create a reality that's seperate from the observable, testable realities that folks normally operate within. While it apparently gives you comfort, it's actually very snowflaky if you think about it: reality hurts your precious feelers so you pitch a fit and spin, spin, spin. Again I can only offer this: golf clap.
Anyway, the moral and intellectual vacuousness of such an approach notwithstanding, it's also just fücking retarded. Circling back, for example A of this look no further than the fact that our POTUS cannot have a conversation that matters because he just plain lies too much and/or can't keep track of actual reality as it relates to his attempts to manufacture same.
Pretty telling that POTUS is such a habitual LIAR that his counsel doesn't want him to sit for an interview out of fear he'll lie and/or contradict prior statements he's made.
What it brings into focus is Trump's apparent belief that if HE wants something to be "true", he can, by force of personality, make it so. We've seen this over and over and over with him.
Pretty telling that POTUS is such a habitual LIAR that his counsel doesn't want him to sit for an interview out of fear he'll lie and/or contradict prior statements he's made.
What it brings into focus is Trump's apparent belief that if HE wants something to be "true", he can, by force of personality, make it so. We've seen this over and over and over with him.
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Pot, I would like to introduce you to kettle.
I guess Jell0 missed this bs from a real lying pos.
Given the OBVIOUS & CONSTANT hatefulness & utter dishonesty of the BHO maladministration & the DIMocRATS Party, I'm fascinated that anyone has the temerity to question anything that our current President says/does.
I came to the conclusion a number of years ago that there is NOTHING so DISHONEST, IMMORAL, PREJUDICED & HATEFUL that the DNC/DNCC/DIMocRATS would not do to win any election.
Take a look at the change in tone and content of his conversation from 5-17 to today. He's gone gonzo off the deepen. Started as reasonably debating the situation from the Dem angle, and if you take the time to thumb through his posts, they get more biting and shrill as his frustration mounts. Additionally, I'd guess that the Dem Talking points are now directing him to be more forceful in the bomb dropping and drive by sniping as their position weakens.
If anyone wants to doubt that Trump is winning, take a look and witness the emotional meltdown yourself.
5-17
Originally Posted by Jeff_O
Originally Posted by hatari
I don't think Comey was playing for Trump with the election and don' think he's x with the Dems over Russia. I do think he's just a bad fit and that there are better people to run the FBI.
That's about exactly how I see it. However, better fit or not, I think this firing will be politically disastrous for Trump for the exact reasons you elucidate. Comey had, through circumstance and action, a level of bipartisan credibility.
The sharp knives are coming out and Mr. Trump has mighty thin skin. Hold onto your hats boys.
And
Originally Posted by Jeff_O
Swamp-draining is fine by me but this wasn't that. In a bizarre way, Comey had credibility across the aisle. This was an ego- and emotion-based decision and, IMHO, a big mistake.
When was the last time we had a POTUS turtle up, fume for days, then fire the man investigating him? How'd that turn out?
My belief has been that there's a lot of "there" there in the Russian collusion mess. Might not reach Trump- might be confined to Page, Stone, Manafort, Flynn, or some combo, but I think it happened. I think law enforcement has been doing what they do: methodically building the case. I think this brings all that to a head. Guess we'll see. I kinda hope I'm wrong but I doubt it.
Now
Originally Posted by Jeff_O
Pretty telling that POTUS is such a habitual LIAR that his counsel doesn't want him to sit for an interview out of fear he'll lie and/or contradict prior statements he's made.
What it brings into focus is Trump's apparent belief that if HE wants something to be "true", he can, by force of personality, make it so. We've seen this over and over and over with him. His problem now is that the special prosecutor's office (and for that matter the rule of law in general) doesn't operate on that principle; rather, the words that comprise our various laws and the Constitution actually possess meaning beyond Trumps sticky grasp; beyond his ability to basically bullshit his way through to a self-serving alternative-facts-based "truth" of his own liking and creation.
It's a microcosm for the whole conservative movement in the last decade: all y'all seem to think if you just yell loud enough and keep the circle-jerk going and stay in your news bubble you can just create a reality that's seperate from the observable, testable realities that folks normally operate within. While it apparently gives you comfort, it's actually very snowflaky if you think about it: reality hurts your precious feelers so you pitch a fit and spin, spin, spin. Again I can only offer this: golf clap.
Anyway, the moral and intellectual vacuousness of such an approach notwithstanding, it's also just fücking retarded. Circling back, for example A of this look no further than the fact that our POTUS cannot have a conversation that matters because he just plain lies too much and/or can't keep track of actual reality as it relates to his attempts to manufacture same.
Take a look at the change in tone and content of his conversation from 5-17 to today. He's gone gonzo off the deepen. Started as reasonably debating the situation from the Dem angle, and if you take the time to thumb through his posts, they get more biting and shrill as his frustration mounts. Additionally, I'd guess that the Dem Talking points are now directing him to be more forceful in the bomb dropping and drive by sniping as their position weakens.
If anyone wants to doubt that Trump is winning, take a look and witness the emotional meltdown yourself.
And
Originally Posted by Jeff_O
My belief has been that there's a lot of "there" there in the Russian collusion mess. Might not reach Trump- might be confined to Page, Stone, Manafort, Flynn, or some combo, but I think it happened. I think law enforcement has been doing what they do: methodically building the case. I think this brings all that to a head. Guess we'll see. I kinda hope I'm wrong but I doubt it.
Well, this is a good time to reflect on him being wrong about Manafort and Flynn.
Take a look at the change in tone and content of his conversation from 5-17 to today. He's gone gonzo off the deepen. Started as reasonably debating the situation from the Dem angle, and if you take the time to thumb through his posts, they get more biting and shrill as his frustration mounts. Additionally, I'd guess that the Dem Talking points are now directing him to be more forceful in the bomb dropping and drive by sniping as their position weakens.
If anyone wants to doubt that Trump is winning, take a look and witness the emotional meltdown yourself.
And
Originally Posted by Jeff_O
My belief has been that there's a lot of "there" there in the Russian collusion mess. Might not reach Trump- might be confined to Page, Stone, Manafort, Flynn, or some combo, but I think it happened. I think law enforcement has been doing what they do: methodically building the case. I think this brings all that to a head. Guess we'll see. I kinda hope I'm wrong but I doubt it.
Well, this is a good time to reflect on him being wrong about Manafort and Flynn.
Everything Mueller has done is horribly tainted.He knows it.He is looking for a way out.I cant see an escape for him short of death.
Take a look at the change in tone and content of his conversation from 5-17 to today. He's gone gonzo off the deepen. Started as reasonably debating the situation from the Dem angle, and if you take the time to thumb through his posts, they get more biting and shrill as his frustration mounts. Additionally, I'd guess that the Dem Talking points are now directing him to be more forceful in the bomb dropping and drive by sniping as their position weakens.
If anyone wants to doubt that Trump is winning, take a look and witness the emotional meltdown yourself.
5-17
Originally Posted by Jeff_O
Originally Posted by hatari
I don't think Comey was playing for Trump with the election and don' think he's x with the Dems over Russia. I do think he's just a bad fit and that there are better people to run the FBI.
That's about exactly how I see it. However, better fit or not, I think this firing will be politically disastrous for Trump for the exact reasons you elucidate. Comey had, through circumstance and action, a level of bipartisan credibility.
The sharp knives are coming out and Mr. Trump has mighty thin skin. Hold onto your hats boys.
And
Originally Posted by Jeff_O
Swamp-draining is fine by me but this wasn't that. In a bizarre way, Comey had credibility across the aisle. This was an ego- and emotion-based decision and, IMHO, a big mistake.
When was the last time we had a POTUS turtle up, fume for days, then fire the man investigating him? How'd that turn out?
My belief has been that there's a lot of "there" there in the Russian collusion mess. Might not reach Trump- might be confined to Page, Stone, Manafort, Flynn, or some combo, but I think it happened. I think law enforcement has been doing what they do: methodically building the case. I think this brings all that to a head. Guess we'll see. I kinda hope I'm wrong but I doubt it.
Now
Originally Posted by Jeff_O
Pretty telling that POTUS is such a habitual LIAR that his counsel doesn't want him to sit for an interview out of fear he'll lie and/or contradict prior statements he's made.
What it brings into focus is Trump's apparent belief that if HE wants something to be "true", he can, by force of personality, make it so. We've seen this over and over and over with him. His problem now is that the special prosecutor's office (and for that matter the rule of law in general) doesn't operate on that principle; rather, the words that comprise our various laws and the Constitution actually possess meaning beyond Trumps sticky grasp; beyond his ability to basically bullshit his way through to a self-serving alternative-facts-based "truth" of his own liking and creation.
It's a microcosm for the whole conservative movement in the last decade: all y'all seem to think if you just yell loud enough and keep the circle-jerk going and stay in your news bubble you can just create a reality that's seperate from the observable, testable realities that folks normally operate within. While it apparently gives you comfort, it's actually very snowflaky if you think about it: reality hurts your precious feelers so you pitch a fit and spin, spin, spin. Again I can only offer this: golf clap.
Anyway, the moral and intellectual vacuousness of such an approach notwithstanding, it's also just fücking retarded. Circling back, for example A of this look no further than the fact that our POTUS cannot have a conversation that matters because he just plain lies too much and/or can't keep track of actual reality as it relates to his attempts to manufacture same.
That's because in addition to being a drug addled scumbag, he's a pathological liar. One need only read myriad times he's been caught lying on just about every topic he's smeared his feces on...
The crazy thing is even if these traitors are proven guilty and go to jail, poo flinger, JellO will just say it is partisan and Trump is the one who should be in jail.
These libtards refuse to believe facts if it goes against their narrative.
They all have agendas, for JellO it is probably pot legalization and disability checks that forms his opinion?
I don't know about the rest you but the "leadership" (IF you can call it leadership??) makes me GAG, as they seem to represent only THEMSELVES & "the truth is a stranger" to them. = When Pelosi, Schiff, Schumer, Wasserman-Schultz, Feinstein, etc are talking, you are 99% likely to be correct if you believe that they are LYING when their mouth is moving.
I hope nobody here is dumb enough to think Mueller's indictment of various Russians today was in ANY way good news for Trump.
But then again, the written record shows you've been some EPIC dumbasses on this front, so........
"I will do this ONE TIME so listen up I do not argue politics anymore. I do not FOLLOW politics anymore. I sucked at it anyway . I'm done with that [bleep]. -" Jeff O
I hope nobody here is dumb enough to think Mueller's indictment of various Russians today was in ANY way good news for Trump.
But then again, the written record shows you've been some EPIC dumbasses on this front, so........
Then again, we all know that Mueller is leading a crew of Hillary supporters that have no limits, no budgets, and plenty of liars to remove Trump at all costs.
The real dumbasses are the ones rooting for his removal.
Right now, he's all that standing between us and you.
I hope nobody here is dumb enough to think Mueller's indictment of various Russians today was in ANY way good news for Trump.
But then again, the written record shows you've been some EPIC dumbasses on this front, so........
You don't have the intelligence of an amoeba, lieberal,but you do have the destructive nature of a cancer cell. You aren't even human. You abdicated that long ago.
There's no allegation that any American was knowingly involved in the conspiracy, Rosenstein said.
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Rosenstein and FBI Director Christopher Wray briefed President Trump on the indictments Friday, CBS News' Major Garrett reports, according to two sources familiar with the talks. They told him that that the indictments did not allege cooperation or collusion with Trump campaign.
It appears your buddies at the commie broadcasting service are dumb enough to believe it. You should be an expert on dumbasses, as you look at one in the mirror regularly.
I hope nobody here is dumb enough to think Mueller's indictment of various Russians today was in ANY way good news for Trump.
But then again, the written record shows you've been some EPIC dumbasses on this front, so........
"I will do this ONE TIME so listen up I do not argue politics anymore. I do not FOLLOW politics anymore. I sucked at it anyway . I'm done with that [bleep]. -" Jeff O
He's no good at it when he posts under RollingThunder RollingTurd either.
The top attorney in Robert Mueller's Special Counsel's office was reported to the Department of Justice's Inspector General by a lawyer representing whistleblowers for alleged "corrupt legal practices" more than a year before the 2016 presidential election and a decade before to the Senate Judiciary Committee , this reporter has learned.
Described by the New York Times as Mueller's 'pitbull,' Andrew Weissmann, a former Eastern District of New York Assistant U.S. Attorney, rose through the ranks to eventually become Mueller's general counsel at the F.B.I.
I hope nobody here is dumb enough to think Mueller's indictment of various Russians today was in ANY way good news for Trump.
But then again, the written record shows you've been some EPIC dumbasses on this front, so........
"I will do this ONE TIME so listen up I do not argue politics anymore. I do not FOLLOW politics anymore. I sucked at it anyway . I'm done with that [bleep]. -" Jeff O
He's no good at it when he posts under RollingThunder RollingTurd either.
I thought RollingThunderthighs was greyghost’s sock puppet?
Nice little panicky tweetstorm from POTUS today. I'm confining my criticisms of him to Russia-related stuff (here at least) so within that context, I'd opine that the wheels are starting to come off the [bleep] cart because he knows damn well and good that Mueller will demonstrate collusion, and now the table is set as far as the criminality of such, as detailed in the indictments Friday.
It ain't gonna end well for Trump, Kushner, that arrogant-smirking POS Trump Jr, etc. Being cracked like eggs on national television is going to be not-fun.
It only took our "genius" POTUS 15 months to realize what I was saying days after the election, which again is right here on the forum, in writing. And may I point out that many of you informed me how utterly stoopid I was at the time for saying it. Considering that yes, once again, I was right and "you" were wrong (and were total pricks about it, naturally) it's fair to say: you're [bleep] stoopid. And your stoopidities are all right here, archived on the forum, forever. Golf clap, guys! Golf clap.
"If it was the GOAL of Russia to create discord, disruption and chaos within the U.S. then, with all of the Committee Hearings, Investigations and Party hatred, they have succeeded beyond their wildest dreams. They are laughing their asses off in Moscow. Get smart America!”
QUICK! Run back to your alt.right news safe place and go lalalalala! Alt.snowflakes, more like.
And then there is this little gem from the past..........
Originally Posted by Jeff_O
You guys are comical in your fear of Obama. He's not gonna go after your guns. The Dems have learned their lesson on that one. Face it. We had two bad choices. Obama was the better one, and not by a little bit!
When Obama was elected, almost to the man, every friend of mine was disgusted and just pushed through his 8 years of destroying America with his corrupting of the DOJ, FBI and IRS. He achieved some of his goals that he stated on the campaign trail. He wanted to redistribute our nations wealth and fundamentally change America. So he abused his office powers, lied about protecting and up holding our nations constitution and allowed the Clinton machine to get rich by exploiting their public office positions and organization's. He is a party to all of it.
Comey was and is a self serving corrupt person who also lied about his oath of office and obeying the law and he allowed his subordinates to do like wise.
Trump is far from my perfect choice for a president. I also think he may have been the only one who could defeat Hillary, because he was willing to get in the mud and fight it out with them in any dirty way they wanted to.
The Clintons, Obama and their people have proved they are untouchable and I don't see that changing and none of the shady people they used have been charged with a crime and the DOJ and FBI made sure of it. So far none of our current DOJ and FBI and IRS officials are doing any thing to bring them to justice. Nothing ever comes out of congressional hearings and millions of tax payer dollars get spent.
I also believe most of this Trump/Russian crap was right out of the Clinton play book and all of their sheep knowingly ran with it. From day one Trump has been hated by most conservative politicians and all of the liberal politicians and almost all of the lying media. But, it is up to the American voter to drain the swamp and most in America don't have the stomach for it.
Now some idiots want Oprah to run for president, that speaks volumes to me on the mind set of the liberal left.
The investigation into Page was legit as was the FISA warrant. Nunes' blatantly partisan attempt to discredit it was not.
It will come out soon that collusion occurred under Manafort's supervision. It'll be shown that Trump knew, at a bare minimum, and therefore obstructed the investigation into same.
I suggest all y'all stop acting like spoiled children who didn't get your way. Talk about precious lil' SNOWFLAKES. Jeezus.
Lol Trump running towards gunfire. What a deluded old TOOL. Does he not remember his "heel spurs disability" or whatever the fück it was that had him running AWAY while many of you here served in Vietnam?! Does he think WE don't remember?! The guy seems to believe he can lie his face off and get away with it. Well, he CAN, with 1/3 of America, so I guess there's that little detail. Congratulations...?
All right. Back on topic.
I just want to point out that when it's shown that folks within Trumps camp were in cahoots with Russian intelligence, and actually that's already happened, then this whole investigation that all y'all are turning yourselves inside out trying to discredit will be shown to be completely valid. Serious now- what was the FBI supposed to DO?! Just ignore this? Have you guys lost all touch with reality here in your foaming at the mouth partisanship? It appears so.
Now realize all it takes is Trump having the merest inkling of this- for instance, his reasoning for firing Manafort- and he's guilty of obstruction. All the other pieces are there for a completely appropriate and well-deserved obstruction charge. The merest inkling, folks.
I've said a half-dozen times, right here, in writing, on this forum, archived* that I'm not some "resistance" member who wants Trumps head for "whatever". The man was elected. Unlike many here, I have a deep and abiding respect for the process of our democracy even when I don't agree with its results. . Read that again. Can you say the same with a straight face? Doubt it. So if he's innocent then I want this to wrap up, I'll eat my crow here, and we can move forward with the consequences of the election as played out in policy.
But if he colluded with Russia to affect the election, and/or has covered up for campaign members who did, then his head most assuredly belongs on a platter. And I mean that literally. That's high treason.
Have a great day.
*i repeat this because some here are lying YOUR faces off, but it ain't gonna work, folks. It's all here in writing.
That stupid fugger plays you guys like a fiddle. Does a drive-by every once in a while and you guys are like the dog that just can't help chasing cars.....yap, yap, yap.
The investigation into Page was legit as was the FISA warrant. Nunes' blatantly partisan attempt to discredit it was not.
It will come out soon that collusion occurred under Manafort's supervision. It'll be shown that Trump knew, at a bare minimum, and therefore obstructed the investigation into same.
I suggest all y'all stop acting like spoiled children who didn't get your way. Talk about precious lil' SNOWFLAKES. Jeezus.
BS.Putins guys helped Steele put that mud slinging dossier together.You are just another one of Putins useful idiots.
That's all I asked you for when you started this clusterfug.
You got your one page yet?
I didn't think so.
What kind of proof will satisfy you? Will it satisfy you if members of his campaign or transition team or administration are charged with conspiracy against the United States? Do they have to actually be convicted of those charges or is an indictment enough? Does Trump himself have to be indicted and convicted? You do realize that he can't be indicted, right?
I don't think there is any level of proof that will satisfy you. I think that if Trump is removed against his will or even if he resigns over this you will still say that he did nothing wrong.
Is that the case, or is there something that will satisfy you? Let us know.
That's all I asked you for when you started this clusterfug.
You got your one page yet?
I didn't think so.
What kind of proof will satisfy you? Will it satisfy you if members of his campaign or transition team or administration are charged with conspiracy against the United States? Do they have to actually be convicted of those charges or is an indictment enough? Does Trump himself have to be indicted and convicted? You do realize that he can't be indicted, right?
I don't think there is any level of proof that will satisfy you. I think that if Trump is removed against his will or even if he resigns over this you will still say that he did nothing wrong.
Is that the case, or is there something that will satisfy you? Let us know.
What makes you think Trump has done something wrong?Just list it.
That's all I asked you for when you started this clusterfug.
You got your one page yet?
I didn't think so.
What kind of proof will satisfy you? Will it satisfy you if members of his campaign or transition team or administration are charged with conspiracy against the United States? Do they have to actually be convicted of those charges or is an indictment enough? Does Trump himself have to be indicted and convicted? You do realize that he can't be indicted, right?
I don't think there is any level of proof that will satisfy you. I think that if Trump is removed against his will or even if he resigns over this you will still say that he did nothing wrong.
Is that the case, or is there something that will satisfy you? Let us know.
Hi Jeff! Well played. Giving it an honest 5 minutes to log in under your other name...masterful.
I have no other name, sock puppet, or other presence here, Benny. Mr. Bin can verify that. The guy here knocking you guys silly is just pure, unadulterated ME.
Hell, given the quality of the "competition" here..... even that is overkill.
One more thing then I'll leave this part of this alone. It's just such utter BULLSHÏT.... anyway, as irony would have it, y'know who in our little drama DID run towards gunfire? As opposed to our cowardly lion of a POTUS?
Mr. Mueller, USMC Vietnam, 1968-69. Bronze Star and Purple Heart among others. Shot in the leg while..... wait for it..... running towards gunfire to help his guys.
I have no other name, sock puppet, or other presence here, Benny. Mr. Bin can verify that. The guy here knocking you guys silly is just pure, unadulterated ME.
Hell, given the quality of the "competition" here..... even that is overkill.
One more thing then I'll leave this part of this alone. It's just such utter BULLSHÏT.... anyway, as irony would have it, y'know who in our little drama DID run towards gunfire? As opposed to our cowardly lion of a POTUS?
Mr. Mueller, USMC Vietnam, 1968-69. Bronze Star and Purple Heart among others. Shot in the leg while..... wait for it..... running towards gunfire to help his guys.
I have no other name, sock puppet, or other presence here, Benny. Mr. Bin can verify that. The guy here knocking you guys silly is just pure, unadulterated ME.
Hell, given the quality of the "competition" here..... even that is overkill.
One more thing then I'll leave this part of this alone. It's just such utter BULLSHÏT.... anyway, as irony would have it, y'know who in our little drama DID run towards gunfire? As opposed to our cowardly lion of a POTUS?
Mr. Mueller, USMC Vietnam, 1968-69. Bronze Star and Purple Heart among others. Shot in the leg while..... wait for it..... running towards gunfire to help his guys.
I have no other name, sock puppet, or other presence here, Benny. Mr. Bin can verify that. The guy here knocking you guys silly is just pure, unadulterated ME.
Hell, given the quality of the "competition" here..... even that is overkill.
One more thing then I'll leave this part of this alone. It's just such utter BULLSHÏT.... anyway, as irony would have it, y'know who in our little drama DID run towards gunfire? As opposed to our cowardly lion of a POTUS?
Mr. Mueller, USMC Vietnam, 1968-69. Bronze Star and Purple Heart among others. Shot in the leg while..... wait for it..... running towards gunfire to help his guys.
It'd be even funnier if it wasn't so pathetic. Still pretty dang funny.
WASHINGTON (The Borowitz Report)—Shortly after he declared that he would have run into a Florida high school unarmed to thwart a mass shooting, Donald J. Trump announced that he was planning a parade in Washington, D.C., to celebrate his hypothetical act of heroism. “Anyone can act with bravery in the moment,” Trump told reporters in the White House. “But it takes a very special kind of hero to tell people about the incredibly brave thing he would have done weeks after the thing happened.”
He added that it was one of his greatest regrets that bone spurs prevented him from serving in the Vietnam War, “because the really courageous things I would have done during that war would have been off the charts.” “As soon as the Tet Offensive happened, I would have run unarmed right into that mess,” he said. “We probably would have won the war right after I did that.”
Trump said that the parade he was ordering would honor not only him but all of America’s “last responders.” According to a new poll, Trump’s assertion that he would have run into the Florida high school unarmed was believed by his daughter Ivanka.
"I will do this ONE TIME so listen up I do not argue politics anymore. I do not FOLLOW politics anymore. I sucked at it anyway . I'm done with that [bleep]. -" Jeff O
It'd be even funnier if it wasn't so pathetic. Still pretty dang funny.
WASHINGTON (The Borowitz Report)—Shortly after he declared that he would have run into a Florida high school unarmed to thwart a mass shooting, Donald J. Trump announced that he was planning a parade in Washington, D.C., to celebrate his hypothetical act of heroism. “Anyone can act with bravery in the moment,” Trump told reporters in the White House. “But it takes a very special kind of hero to tell people about the incredibly brave thing he would have done weeks after the thing happened.”
He added that it was one of his greatest regrets that bone spurs prevented him from serving in the Vietnam War, “because the really courageous things I would have done during that war would have been off the charts.” “As soon as the Tet Offensive happened, I would have run unarmed right into that mess,” he said. “We probably would have won the war right after I did that.”
Trump said that the parade he was ordering would honor not only him but all of America’s “last responders.” According to a new poll, Trump’s assertion that he would have run into the Florida high school unarmed was believed by his daughter Ivanka.
JeffO cant tell the difference between satire and real news. No wonder he is such a good "useful" idiot.
This explains a lot about his point of view. He is either too stupid or stoned to interpret the news.
So Gates has all charges dropped in exchange for something obviously of high value to the prosecutor. "Hmmm!" Gosh golly fellas, wonder why Mueller would do THAT?! Maybe he's just a big ol' softie who realizes this whole affair is nothing but a nothingburger witch hunt.
Or maybe not.
It's going to be fascinating to see who here comes back to reality once the evidence is presented. There's a few here who keep saying "show me one shred of evidence!" To which I say, first, you're a retard if you don't already see the shreds, but second..... ok, what then? When you've seen the evidence, what then? Because all y'all have certainly set the stage for the mother of all hissy-fit freakouts on this.
Before I gave up on trying to actually converse with you asshöles I saw guys, Jorge comes to mind, bleating pre-treasonous statements about maybe it wouldn't even matter if he DID collude. If you hold that line, reality is gonna ram it up your [bleep] here shortly.
........ or so I predict. I mean I COULD be wrong here. It'd be a first*, but anything is possible.
*yeah, that's all right here, in writing, on this thread.
So Gates has all charges dropped in exchange for something obviously of high value to the prosecutor. "Hmmm!" Gosh golly fellas, wonder why Mueller would do THAT?! Maybe he's just a big ol' softie who realizes this whole affair is nothing but a nothingburger witch hunt.
Or maybe not.
It's going to be fascinating to see who here comes back to reality once the evidence is presented. There's a few here who keep saying "show me one shred of evidence!" To which I say, first, you're a retard if you don't already see the shreds, but second..... ok, what then? When you've seen the evidence, what then? Because all y'all have certainly set the stage for the mother of all hissy-fit freakouts on this.
Before I gave up on trying to actually converse with you asshöles I saw guys, Jorge comes to mind, bleating pre-treasonous statements about maybe it wouldn't even matter if he DID collude. If you hold that line, reality is gonna ram it up your [bleep] here shortly.
........ or so I predict. I mean I COULD be wrong here. It'd be a first*, but anything is possible.
*yeah, that's all right here, in writing, on this thread.
I read the article. Why would Mueller do that? Borrowing from your link Sparky.
"Gates likely can help the government in its prosecution of his longtime business partner Paul Manafort, the former Trump campaign chairman who is fighting Mueller’s indictments for money laundering, failing to register as an agent of a foreign government, and bank and tax fraud."
Ms. Hicks gets out while the getting is might still be good!
Funny fact. She told Congress yesterday that she never lied about "Russia". If your head isn't in a dark stinky partisan place, you might realize* that she also refused to answer any questions about it!
As an exercise in Remedial Head-Pulling-Out I'll let you rocket-surgeons figure it out for yourselves. Good luck!
".....But in recent weeks, Hicks became disillusioned with her job, people who’ve spoken with her told me. Her closeness to Trump meant she was also nearest to the hottest flames of the fires that have burned in the West Wing, the most intense being the Russia probe. Hicks has racked up substantial legal fees, one source told me. “She’s in immense personal jeopardy,” one Republican close to the White House said yesterday. “This is a sign the Mueller investigation is a lot more serious than any one of us thought.” "
Well, my anonymous Republican friend, that's BECAUSE YOU AREN'T THINKING!! GAAAA!!
"Thus, there seems to be another strategy behind Manafort’s vows to fight on. And this is a legal posture aimed at an audience of one: Donald Trump. Robert Mueller, presumably, still doesn’t know what a truthful Manafort would have to say—but Trump does. If Manafort is, in fact, playing for a pardon—a route that even disgraced former N.S.A. chief Michael Flynn, whom Trump steadily defended, didn’t take—it would speak volumes about how damaging Manafort’s testimony could be to Trump or to those close to him, such as his son, Donald Trump Jr., and his son-in-law, Jared Kushner. If Manafort’s truthful testimony was simply going to absolve all of them of conspiring with the Russians, he could have made a deal long ago. Such testimony would have been as likely to earn an eventual pardon, once the smoke cleared. Manafort’s problem, then, seems to be that Mueller may already have evidence of collusion that threatens to endanger him, his former colleagues on the campaign, and possibly Trump himself."
I added the bold to help you "special" readers understand: Manafort is clearly hiding something; nothing else makes sense here. You're welcome!
Now remember this. Obstruction doesn't require that the charged party is guilty of a given crime; it requires that they knowingly obstructed the prosecution of said crime. To illustrate, let's create a hypothetical that actually favors Trump. That hypothetical is that when he became aware that Manafort was in collusion with Russia, while acting as his campaign chief, he fired him.
The problem is that if Mr. Trump had so much as an inkling about this, then he has beyond question acted to obstruct. Not even debateable. You'd have to be one of those idiots on something like the Campfire forum to even try. Oh, wait.
The ONLY way he is innocent of obstruction is if he's clean as a whistle.
I think it’s absolutely hilarious watching Jello run around looking for “evidence” under every rock and anonymous source. Jello is unraveling and it’s toofuckingfunny to ignore.
He can’t help himself and what’s sad about this whole abortion of an “investigation” is that it’s proved beyond a shadow of a doubt that the treasonous and seditious actions of the Obongo administration runs deep and isn’t contained to the democrats only. There’s a lot of treasonous POS on the republican side.
The entire debacle is pathetic and should be enough justification to run 90%+ of the rats in DC out on a rail after tarring and feathering. Jeff might laugh and pretend that this is isolated in its scope but it makes me sick that our representatives are actively working to undermine our constitutional rights and both sides would willingly sell their souls to the devil if it gets them re-elected. There’s nothing funny about any of this other than the irony of how it’s going to backfire on the democrats.
The country I love is being ruined while the Caligulas and Nero’s, along with their minions like Jello, laugh. The real Americans, the patriots that love this country, will get the last laugh in the end because we won’t go quietly and their reckoning will be our cleansing. I’d rather die fighting than watch our country destroyed by their greed and corruption.
There’s nothing funny about any of this and the joy Jello gets from his bullshitt “sources” tells me all I need to know about him. He used to be funny in court jester kind of way but to see the happiness this sedition and treason brings him tells me all I need to know about that clown. #treasonouspieceofshitt
Like someone who cant open a box of bullets, Jell0?
Tell us wny you are fine with Hillary getting $145 million for Uranium One when the US has to buy uranium from foreign countries. I propose you dont care because you are either a commie supporting the destruction of the US or its because youre a dumbfugk.
Jell0 is too stupid to worry about our laws or constitution being destroyed by tyranny. Hes stupid enough to think the Zeros and Hillarys of the really care about him and will do so until their minions takes his bullets. Even then he will accept is as being for the public good.
"When MSNBC's Katy Tur asked, “Do you think that they have something on the president?” Nunberg responded: “I think they may. I think that he may have done something during the election, but I don't know that for sure."
In an interview airing later on CNN, Nunberg elaborated cryptically: "The way they asked about his business dealings, the way they asked if you had heard anything even while I was fired, it just made me think that they suspected something about him.”
Ultimately, Nunberg told CNN that Trump “may very well have done something during the election with the Russians."
He said specifically that he felt former Trump foreign policy adviser Carter Page "was colluding with the Russians" but suggested Page might have been a lone wolf. He also said he believes that Mueller thinks Roger Stone, his own political ally, colluded via contacts with WikiLeaks."
"When MSNBC's Katy Tur asked, “Do you think that they have something on the president?” Nunberg responded: “I think they may. I think that he may have done something during the election, but I don't know that for sure."
Thus is FUN! For me anyway. SUX2BME as per usual.
This is the best you can do? A nobody who got fired early on in the campaign who comes right out and says "but I don't know that for sure."". That's all it takes for you go into orgasmic paroxysms?
You are such a disingenuous troll. Your best talent has been to milk your foolishness upwards to 1700 posts.
Take a look back at your early posts on this thread, back when you were the Manchurian Troll, a Leftist operative cloaked in the woolen trappings of being reasonable. Along the journey, you cast aside your facade of moderatism and now show your true self like a werewolf in the moonlight. "I am troll! Hear me roar!"
When asked by Tara Palmeri whether [Nunberg] thought the Mueller investigation was a witch hunt, he said: "No, I don’t think it’s a witch hunt." "There’s a lot [of] there there, and that’s a sad truth," he said. "[But] I don’t believe it leads to the president."
He's loopy, but he's in a position to know.
Pretty obvious to anyone with a functioning brain that someone (uh, Manafort) committed treason by engaging with our primary global adversary to effect the process of our democracy.
The problem for Trump is, as I've said over and over to you [bleep], is that if he had even the slightest inkling of this, then he's CLEARLY acted to obstruct in the time since then. Not even questionable. On top of lying to the American people scores (hundreds?) of times since.
It's gonna be some awesome political theater. The truly unfortunate thing is that a very legit political movement is gonna end up tarred and feathered alongside him. Dead serious there. That's a bummer.
You guys remember when I called all this like some kind of Campfire Nostradamus while all y'all whined and hollered? I sure do. Luckily for me it's all here in writing so I can simply dig it back up when the lying sacks of shït like Bigfish try to deny it.
Ironically, it ain't that I'm that good. It's that y'all have sucked major ass on this one.
I was curious how many here saw the HIC's declaration of no collusion to mean..... well, anything.... but I just didn't feel like wading through the Campfire drivel. Suffice it to say that it wouldn't surprise me one bit if some here ran with that, but I'll add that it's my sincere hope that y'all are smarter than that....?
So Dowd is out. His weird "I pray..." fiasco was a peek behind the chaos curtain though, wasn't it. Yes it was.
My thoughts of the moment are that things will be coming to a head in the next month or so. Mueller has done a fantastic job of managing a "no leaks" investigation, so I'm just going by the level of obvious panic in Trumpland and by folks like Hicks abandoning ship. She'll be a playa in the upcoming dramas; for instance she was involved in Trump drafting the patently dishonest statement about the meeting at Trump Tower. My guess is she's been flipped, or will soon. She's not going to prison for the best years of her life to protect a 71 year old billionaire (sic) serial liar. At a bare minimum she's trying to limit further legal liabilities. Smart gal, round heels notwithstanding.
Again, you guys are living in a separate reality so I don't know exactly how you are being manipulated by FOX et al. For instance, did you know that it's unlikely that Mueller will actually subpoena Trump, and do you know why that is? Did you catch the utterly specious basis for Napolito's supposed argument a couple days ago? Kinda doubt it but I hope your brains are still functioning well enough to see that kind of thing even through the propaganda. Make no mistake, you are being manipulated just as much if not more so that the Left ever was by the MSM. Do you realize this? Would you admit it if you did? Do you even CARE or has the hot blood of tribalism dinned your ears?
I'll wrap by saying for about the 10th time that I'm not a supporter of an obstruction charge unless it's some seriously egregious stuff. I'll still admit to the possibility that this is an innocent man who's personality has led him to a perilous place. That's not what I think is the case; but it's possible.
Jeff-O, I assume you reside in PDX proper or the west side, maybe even the hills overlooking the Portland skyline. Not all Oregonians feel as you...One does not have to be a Fox viewer for labels of ignorance to be handed out by liberals who feel superior because they watch MSNBC or CNN. It’s whichever vacuum you prefer.
Some, networks do a better job trying to explain the clean up process required in government, like Fox, then the Leftist networks who just want us to continue to live in a filthy house created by 8 years of elitist entitlement governance that now don’t want their dirt exposed by the current administration.
As an Oregonian, I’am ashamed when Portland makes national news for the destruction and protests performed by the radial left. Most who participate is these acts of violence to property and person are NOT even a registered to voter. No surprise. They Left enjoys these types of people. This is really their base. Radical. Handout Seeking. Violent. And Social Media Opressive to anyone who challenges them for change in a new, correct direction...😎
Brennen's comment the other day was exactly what I was saying was the problem IF Trump had indeed colluded with the Kremlin to affect our election. It's not so much that he won, or Clinton lost. IDGAF about Hillary [bleep] Clinton. What I do care about- as should we all- is that a country we've been at some form of cold war or the other with since 1946 would have so much leverage on POTUS. Think about it, guys. You aren't idiots; you've gotten a read on what makes Donald Trump tick by now. So riddle me this: what WOULDN'T Trump do to prevent the utter destruction of the Trump global brand? And what could the Kremlin do at a drop of a hat at any time to a colluding POTUS? THAT'S the problem here.
Anyway. No point in talking sense here. It'll get rammed up your patooties soon enough.
In the final months before the 2016 election, top Trump campaign aide Rick Gates was in contact with a former member of Russian military intelligence whose background he knew about, according to a new court filing by Mueller’s office. “Federal Bureau of Investigation Special Agents assisting the Special Counsel’s Office assess that Person A has ties to a Russian intelligence service and had such ties in 2016,” states a sentencing memo in the case of Alex van der Zwaan, a Dutch lawyer who pleaded guilty to lying to federal prosecutors earlier this year
Old article from last year reporting some the signet Brennan has reportedly seen, without more information it's hard to say if this is evidence of collusion, or evidence of Russians looking to recruit assets.
According to one account, GCHQ’s then head, Robert Hannigan, passed material in summer 2016 to the CIA chief, John Brennan. The matter was deemed so sensitive it was handled at “director level”. After an initially slow start, Brennan used GCHQ information and intelligence from other partners to launch a major inter-agency investigation.
In late August and September Brennan gave a series of classified briefings to the Gang of Eight, the top-ranking Democratic and Republican leaders in the House and Senate. He told them the agency had evidence the Kremlin might be trying to help Trump to win the presidency, the New York Times reported.
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Britain’s spy agencies played a crucial role in alerting their counterparts in Washington to contacts between members of Donald Trump’s campaign team and Russian intelligence operatives, the Guardian has been told.
GCHQ first became aware in late 2015 of suspicious “interactions” between figures connected to Trump and known or suspected Russian agents, a source close to UK intelligence said. This intelligence was passed to the US as part of a routine exchange of information, they added.
Over the next six months, until summer 2016, a number of western agencies shared further information on contacts between Trump’s inner circle and Russians, sources said.
The European countries that passed on electronic intelligence – known as sigint – included Germany, Estonia and Poland. Australia, a member of the “Five Eyes” spying alliance that also includes the US, UK, Canada and New Zealand, also relayed material, one source said.
Another source suggested the Dutch and the French spy agency, the General Directorate for External Security or DGSE, were contributors.
It is understood that GCHQ was at no point carrying out a targeted operation against Trump or his team or proactively seeking information. The alleged conversations were picked up by chance as part of routine surveillance of Russian intelligence assets. Over several months, different agencies targeting the same people began to see a pattern of connections that were flagged to intelligence officials in the US.
It’s SOP when writing an agenda driven news article to list ALL these different foreign spy agencies without pointing out that they all were reporting the same conversation(s).
It’s unlikely that anything nefarious was going on since it was so easily discovered.
Old article from last year reporting some the signet Brennan has reportedly seen, without more information it's hard to say if this is evidence of collusion, or evidence of Russians looking to recruit assets.
According to one account, GCHQ’s then head, Robert Hannigan, passed material in summer 2016 to the CIA chief, John Brennan. The matter was deemed so sensitive it was handled at “director level”. After an initially slow start, Brennan used GCHQ information and intelligence from other partners to launch a major inter-agency investigation.
In late August and September Brennan gave a series of classified briefings to the Gang of Eight, the top-ranking Democratic and Republican leaders in the House and Senate. He told them the agency had evidence the Kremlin might be trying to help Trump to win the presidency, the New York Times reported.
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Britain’s spy agencies played a crucial role in alerting their counterparts in Washington to contacts between members of Donald Trump’s campaign team and Russian intelligence operatives, the Guardian has been told.
GCHQ first became aware in late 2015 of suspicious “interactions” between figures connected to Trump and known or suspected Russian agents, a source close to UK intelligence said. This intelligence was passed to the US as part of a routine exchange of information, they added.
Over the next six months, until summer 2016, a number of western agencies shared further information on contacts between Trump’s inner circle and Russians, sources said.
The European countries that passed on electronic intelligence – known as sigint – included Germany, Estonia and Poland. Australia, a member of the “Five Eyes” spying alliance that also includes the US, UK, Canada and New Zealand, also relayed material, one source said.
Another source suggested the Dutch and the French spy agency, the General Directorate for External Security or DGSE, were contributors.
It is understood that GCHQ was at no point carrying out a targeted operation against Trump or his team or proactively seeking information. The alleged conversations were picked up by chance as part of routine surveillance of Russian intelligence assets. Over several months, different agencies targeting the same people began to see a pattern of connections that were flagged to intelligence officials in the US.
Contacts are not illegal in the least. Neither is information changing hands. Now, when millions of dollars are received by a participant in a huge and unseemly sale of uranium made to an unfriendly or any government, THAT is illegal.
Get ready guys, it's coming. Since you've got blinders on you might not see the outlines. Manafort was in comms with a person he KNEW was Russian intelligence. Bannon founded CA. CA looted data from Facebook. Said data went from CA to Russia, was weaponized, and came back in the form of precisely targeted trolls and bots. DTJr was in comms with Wiki. Wiki received the DNC emails from Russia, weaponized them, and deployed them in timed coordinated batches to hurt Clinton.
This is all either 100% known and proven out, or clear as a bell to anyone not in a bubble. Hint:...... oh never [bleep] mind.
I've swung back and forth on whether I thought POTUS (sic) knew at the time and is a flat traitor, or found out, fired Manafort, and then obstructed his lying ass off ever since, in which case he's just a lying sack of shït idiot. Either way, he's screwed.
There's no way on God's green earth that the FBI raids the office of a sitting POTUS (sic) personal lawyer unless they got him. No WAY.
Constitutional crises inbound. Pardon pen oiled up. You're about to get tested, my fine but spun-out friends. Choose wisely.
Or, I could be wrong and it's allllllll just a big deep state witch hunt. Yeah, that's the ticket.
I'm sure your handlers have you all outraged over the deep state violating privilege blah blah blah. :gasp:
Have they explained to your bubble-boy asses that the ONLY way to get that warrant amounts to a de facto proving of guilt?
Put another way: Cohen was breaking laws. Since his comms with Trump were specifically named in the warrant, that means it was demonstrated to a whole buncha Republican high-ups in Justice that HE was breaking laws.
Since all y'all are such law-and-order, rule of law, gimme some authoritarian strongman COCK! kinda fellas I'm sure this all fine with you. Right? Oh wait. You've lost your [bleep] minds along with your moral compasses. My bad, I forgot.
That warrant-serve was the clearest possible signal that Donald Trump is dirty as hell. A little birdie tells me that there's more fun surprises inbound. Being as it all just reinforces my rightitude/ your wrongitude... I'm liking these surprises. Trump? Not so much. He's gonna explode. Probably start firing people investigating his law-breaking. It's the only move he's got left. It won't work.
It's too bad that a legitimate populist movement FINALLY gets an outsider elected and it turns out he's even more a traitorous lying sack of shït than the swamp creatures we already HAD. But, reality bites sometimes. This is one of them.
All the best gentlemen and may your Grinchy little hearts be filled with love and joy.
I'm sure your handlers have you all outraged over the deep state violating privilege blah blah blah. :gasp:
Have they explained to your bubble-boy asses that the ONLY way to get that warrant amounts to a de facto proving of guilt?
Put another way: Cohen was breaking laws. Since his comms with Trump were specifically named in the warrant, that means it was demonstrated to a whole buncha Republican high-ups in Justice that HE was breaking laws.
Since all y'all are such law-and-order, rule of law, gimme some authoritarian strongman COCK! kinda fellas I'm sure this all fine with you. Right? Oh wait. You've lost your [bleep] minds along with your moral compasses. My bad, I forgot.
That warrant-serve was the clearest possible signal that Donald Trump is dirty as hell. A little birdie tells me that there's more fun surprises inbound. Being as it all just reinforces my rightitude/ your wrongitude... I'm liking these surprises. Trump? Not so much. He's gonna explode. Probably start firing people investigating his law-breaking. It's the only move he's got left. It won't work.
It's too bad that a legitimate populist movement FINALLY gets an outsider elected and it turns out he's even more a traitorous lying sack of shït than the swamp creatures we already HAD. But, reality bites sometimes. This is one of them.
All the best gentlemen and may your Grinchy little hearts be filled with love and joy.
Hey- You dope loving maggot.
Newsflash - Trump is in charge of executive Branch of goverment. He can fire WHOEVER the [bleep] he wants. Period. And guess what? Your Democrat bunghole buddies in congress can impune, impeach whatever the [bleep] they want , but they can't have him removed from office.
Like it or not - YOU are Trump's little dope smoking BITCH.
I'm sure your handlers have you all outraged over the deep state violating privilege blah blah blah. :gasp:
Have they explained to your bubble-boy asses that the ONLY way to get that warrant amounts to a de facto proving of guilt?
Put another way: Cohen was breaking laws. Since his comms with Trump were specifically named in the warrant, that means it was demonstrated to a whole buncha Republican high-ups in Justice that HE was breaking laws.
Since all y'all are such law-and-order, rule of law, gimme some authoritarian strongman COCK! kinda fellas I'm sure this all fine with you. Right? Oh wait. You've lost your [bleep] minds along with your moral compasses. My bad, I forgot.
That warrant-serve was the clearest possible signal that Donald Trump is dirty as hell. A little birdie tells me that there's more fun surprises inbound. Being as it all just reinforces my rightitude/ your wrongitude... I'm liking these surprises. Trump? Not so much. He's gonna explode. Probably start firing people investigating his law-breaking. It's the only move he's got left. It won't work.
It's too bad that a legitimate populist movement FINALLY gets an outsider elected and it turns out he's even more a traitorous lying sack of shït than the swamp creatures we already HAD. But, reality bites sometimes. This is one of them.
All the best gentlemen and may your Grinchy little hearts be filled with love and joy.
Sorry, dumbfuk Jell0, we tried to tell you it wasnt about Russian collusion. So you move the goal post to satisfy your illusion-again. Ha.
At least now we know Trump's response to people who lie to the FBI and commit perjury while ruining honorable people's careers in the intel services. There's your law-and-order guy in action. Laffin'. Could it.... gasp.... be a signal to others that if you lie to the FBI and commit perjury there will be a pardon awaiting?! Naaaaww. That's crazy talk.
Separately, thank GOD we have a stable genius who doesn't telegraph his moves serving as CiC. Whew! Imagine if he was a loose cannon who's "core beliefs" simply (and comically) blow in the daily Fox & Friends winds, and who apparently couldn't help but tweet threats and taunts at Russia....... that he later had to backtrack from. That would be embarrassing! So thank goodness we've got this bastion of mental stability and pure unadulterated genius in charge. I'll sleep like a baby tonight.
You DO realize the wheels are coming off the cart...? Oops. Forgot I was dealing with retards.
I don't even have the heart to go see what mental gyrations you idiots are putting yourselves through to rationalize this clown-show today. Too pathetic. Too depressing. Too predictable. Plus, you'll need a day or two to get all lubed propagandized up by the people manipulating you. I'll wait. I've waited this [bleep] long.
It’s really to bad that tree you cut down didn’t land on your dumbass. Keep smoking dope idiot. Your a bigger buffoon than Piddler and that’s saying something.
At least now we know Trump's response to people who lie to the FBI and commit perjury while ruining honorable people's careers in the intel services. There's your law-and-order guy in action. Laffin'. Could it.... gasp.... be a signal to others that if you lie to the FBI and commit perjury there will be a pardon awaiting?! Naaaaww. That's crazy talk.
Separately, thank GOD we have a stable genius who doesn't telegraph his moves serving as CiC. Whew! Imagine if he was a loose cannon who's "core beliefs" simply (and comically) blow in the daily Fox & Friends winds, and who apparently couldn't help but tweet threats and taunts at Russia....... that he later had to backtrack from. That would be embarrassing! So thank goodness we've got this bastion of mental stability and pure unadulterated genius in charge. I'll sleep like a baby tonight.
You DO realize the wheels are coming off the cart...? Oops. Forgot I was dealing with retards.
I don't even have the heart to go see what mental gyrations you idiots are putting yourselves through to rationalize this clown-show today. Too pathetic. Too depressing. Too predictable. Plus, you'll need a day or two to get all lubed propagandized up by the people manipulating you. I'll wait. I've waited this [bleep] long.
This is awesome! I’ve watched meltdowns in “real time”, but watching it slowly happen via the printed word is extremely entertaining.
At least now we know Trump's response to people who lie to the FBI and commit perjury while ruining honorable people's careers in the intel services. There's your law-and-order guy in action. Laffin'. Could it.... gasp.... be a signal to others that if you lie to the FBI and commit perjury there will be a pardon awaiting?! Naaaaww. That's crazy talk.
Separately, thank GOD we have a stable genius who doesn't telegraph his moves serving as CiC. Whew! Imagine if he was a loose cannon who's "core beliefs" simply (and comically) blow in the daily Fox & Friends winds, and who apparently couldn't help but tweet threats and taunts at Russia....... that he later had to backtrack from. That would be embarrassing! So thank goodness we've got this bastion of mental stability and pure unadulterated genius in charge. I'll sleep like a baby tonight.
You DO realize the wheels are coming off the cart...? Oops. Forgot I was dealing with retards.
I don't even have the heart to go see what mental gyrations you idiots are putting yourselves through to rationalize this clown-show today. Too pathetic. Too depressing. Too predictable. Plus, you'll need a day or two to get all lubed propagandized up by the people manipulating you. I'll wait. I've waited this [bleep] long.
You sleep like a baby...... so you're a thumb sucker who wets the bed?
McCabe in jail by end of next week. Comey probably in jail by end of May. We need to contact the law in Jell0's AO and set up a daily welfare check or have him put on suicide watch.
McCabe in jail by end of next week. Comey probably in jail by end of May. We need to contact the law in Jell0's AO and set up a daily welfare check or have him put on suicide watch.
As the IG drip, drip, drips!
No need for suicide watch, he'll post a video I'm sure.
Nice to see your sticking to your guns Jeff. You are consistent and no one can take that from you. Seem to detect a little more anger in your recent posts. Why is that? I mean considering you are just once again days from having your glorious truth come out.
McCabe in jail by end of next week. Comey probably in jail by end of May. We need to contact the law in Jell0's AO and set up a daily welfare check or have him put on suicide watch.
As the IG drip, drip, drips!
No need for suicide watch, he'll post a video I'm sure.
I can't wait. Someone sticky that thread when it happens.
Gee, who will Honest McCabe (see what I did there?) roll on when he's charged with perjury? Maybe his old boss? Who was that? Remember, McCabe set up a gofundme for his legal defense immediately after his firing and raised nearly half a mil. He wasn't even charged with anything- why the defense fund?
JAMES COMEY WAS MCCABE'S BOSS!!
Paige was the one who rolled on McCabe on the leaking. I'd bet Honest McCabe rolls on big fish Comey to keep his ass virgin and out of the federal pen. Not that he needs to. Comey is already fugged. Comey is releasing his book so he can trash Trump with salacious unprovable gossip. That sets up Comey's defense at his upcoming trial as a vindictive Trump administration, via the DOJ, punishing political adversaries. Comey wants to make it about politics... Not his criminal behavior.
At least now we know Trump's response to people who lie to the FBI and commit perjury while ruining honorable people's careers in the intel services. There's your law-and-order guy in action. Laffin'. Could it.... gasp.... be a signal to others that if you lie to the FBI and commit perjury there will be a pardon awaiting?! Naaaaww. That's crazy talk.
Separately, thank GOD we have a stable genius who doesn't telegraph his moves serving as CiC. Whew! Imagine if he was a loose cannon who's "core beliefs" simply (and comically) blow in the daily Fox & Friends winds, and who apparently couldn't help but tweet threats and taunts at Russia....... that he later had to backtrack from. That would be embarrassing! So thank goodness we've got this bastion of mental stability and pure unadulterated genius in charge. I'll sleep like a baby tonight.
You DO realize the wheels are coming off the cart...? Oops. Forgot I was dealing with retards.
I don't even have the heart to go see what mental gyrations you idiots are putting yourselves through to rationalize this clown-show today. Too pathetic. Too depressing. Too predictable. Plus, you'll need a day or two to get all lubed propagandized up by the people manipulating you. I'll wait. I've waited this [bleep] long.
So, about that Russian collusion thing.........bwhahahahahahaha.
Get ready guys, it's coming. Since you've got blinders on you might not see the outlines. Manafort was in comms with a person he KNEW was Russian intelligence. Bannon founded CA. CA looted data from Facebook. Said data went from CA to Russia, was weaponized, and came back in the form of precisely targeted trolls and bots. DTJr was in comms with Wiki. Wiki received the DNC emails from Russia, weaponized them, and deployed them in timed coordinated batches to hurt Clinton.
This is all either 100% known and proven out, or clear as a bell to anyone not in a bubble. Hint:...... oh never [bleep] mind.
I've swung back and forth on whether I thought POTUS (sic) knew at the time and is a flat traitor, or found out, fired Manafort, and then obstructed his lying ass off ever since, in which case he's just a lying sack of shït idiot. Either way, he's screwed.
There's no way on God's green earth that the FBI raids the office of a sitting POTUS (sic) personal lawyer unless they got him. No WAY.
Constitutional crises inbound. Pardon pen oiled up. You're about to get tested, my fine but spun-out friends. Choose wisely.
Or, I could be wrong and it's allllllll just a big deep state witch hunt. Yeah, that's the ticket.
Dumb [bleep].
Yeah no chance that vindictive, weaponized agencies, long acting with impunity would ever do something frivolous. Of course I guess in their CYA death throws this probably doesn't seem frivolous to them at all. Certainly no more frivolous than the very same agencies little failed 'insurance policy' to be used if her royal highness ended up possibly loosing. Thought you might enjoy this blast from the past, being a music lover and all...different players, same game.
Cohen has vehemently denied ever being in Prague. It's the basis of their argument that the dossier is "fake news!"-- which he literally claimed.
If Cohen is lying about this then there is no witch hunt and the basis for your retardation (that Trump is innocent! It's all just a witch hunt! It's the Deep State! It's hardened Democrats comin' through the wire with satchel charges! Gaaa!!) is kaput. Finished. Done.
Damn this is fun! For me I mean. For YOU [bleep] maroons it means you got PLAYED. It means your media outlets- Rush, Hannity, FOX, Brietbart- have been reporting fake news to YOU. And you've lapped it up like Stormy Daniels at minute 22. Except, at least she got $130k for being [bleep] by the lying traitorous POS that apparently is Donald Trump. You just get to go find a Kleenex and do the walk of shame.
...... which I've been trying to tell you. Right here. In writing. Over and over. Archived forever. I tried to lead you to truth, fellas. I'm STILL trying. Message: I care about you!
The Cohen/Prague thing actually simplifies this whole thing into one simple if/then proposition.
IF Cohen went to Prague fall 2016 THEN Donald Trump is filthy rotten dirty guilty of perpetrating an act of treason against American democracy.
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Mueller (or whomever) leaked that info because it's just that simple.
Just watch. Even the behavior of the talking heads manipulating you dumb addled [bleep] will start to change this coming week as it sinks in. Unless, of course, Trump plays his last card and start firing people. But with this info now in the public domain Congress will know who they are dealing with and act accordingly.
It's all over but the wailing and gnashing.
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Alternatively, if Cohen did not go to Prague then your theories of a deep state conspiracy gain considerable credibility, because quite simply, this is incredibly damning information.
Hey, Jello. Do mankind a favor and go covfeve yourself off a tall ladder.
You'll forever be a liberal martyr and mankind as a whole will benefit from your effort.
When he finds out Cohen was in California with his kid looking at colleges and that Steele had the wrong Michael Cohen's info... May won't come soon enough.
Not to mention Cohen is suing Buzzfeed and Fusion GPS since they published the dossier. In discovery they will have to reveal how the bad intel was obtained. This is because (it is likely it was) Nellie Ohr who queried and got results on the wrong Michael Cohen. This bad intel was passed to Steele who laundered the raw intelligence from intelligence community databases (with the wrong Michael Cohen) and passed it back to the FBI as actual evidence in his dossier. This mistake created an evidence trail from Steele to the FISA database. This tiny mistake (picking the wrong Michael Cohen) is going to destroy this whole corrupt group when the IG report comes out in its entirety.
This is why Cohen is suing Buzzfeed and Fusion GPS. Discovery is a bitch.
At least now we know Trump's response to people who lie to the FBI and commit perjury while ruining honorable people's careers in the intel services. There's your law-and-order guy in action. Laffin'. Could it.... gasp.... be a signal to others that if you lie to the FBI and commit perjury there will be a pardon awaiting?! Naaaaww. That's crazy talk.
Separately, thank GOD we have a stable genius who doesn't telegraph his moves serving as CiC. Whew! Imagine if he was a loose cannon who's "core beliefs" simply (and comically) blow in the daily Fox & Friends winds, and who apparently couldn't help but tweet threats and taunts at Russia....... that he later had to backtrack from. That would be embarrassing! So thank goodness we've got this bastion of mental stability and pure unadulterated genius in charge. I'll sleep like a baby tonight.
You DO realize the wheels are coming off the cart...? Oops. Forgot I was dealing with retards.
I don't even have the heart to go see what mental gyrations you idiots are putting yourselves through to rationalize this clown-show today. Too pathetic. Too depressing. Too predictable. Plus, you'll need a day or two to get all lubed propagandized up by the people manipulating you. I'll wait. I've waited this [bleep] long.
Yep my Grinchy little heart hopes they come for you soon! After that a 4473 won't do you a bit of good.
Swamp-draining is fine by me but this wasn't that. In a bizarre way, Comey had credibility across the aisle. This was an ego- and emotion-based decision and, IMHO, a big mistake.
When was the last time we had a POTUS turtle up, fume for days, then fire the man investigating him? How'd that turn out?
My belief has been that there's a lot of "there" there in the Russian collusion mess. Might not reach Trump- might be confined to Page, Stone, Manafort, Flynn, or some combo, but I think it happened. I think law enforcement has been doing what they do: methodically building the case. I think this brings all that to a head. Guess we'll see. I kinda hope I'm wrong but I doubt it.
Odd how Rosenstein recommended that Comey be fired and then put a special prosecutor on Trumps back for doing it. Thus making it tough to get rid of both Rosenstein and Mueller along with freezing the FBI appointment process. Brilliant actually. And about this Russian collusion, haven't seen or heard of any evidence or that it would be a crime even. How about the Uranium 1 deal? Now that was collusion of the treasonous type!
Swamp-draining is fine by me but this wasn't that. In a bizarre way, Comey had credibility across the aisle. This was an ego- and emotion-based decision and, IMHO, a big mistake.
When was the last time we had a POTUS turtle up, fume for days, then fire the man investigating him? How'd that turn out?
My belief has been that there's a lot of "there" there in the Russian collusion mess. Might not reach Trump- might be confined to Page, Stone, Manafort, Flynn, or some combo, but I think it happened. I think law enforcement has been doing what they do: methodically building the case. I think this brings all that to a head. Guess we'll see. I kinda hope I'm wrong but I doubt it.
Odd how Rosenstein recommended that Comey be fired and then put a special prosecutor on Trumps back for doing it. Thus making it tough to get rid of both Rosenstein and Mueller along with freezing the FBI appointment process. Brilliant actually. And about this Russian collusion, haven't seen or heard of any evidence or that it would be a crime even. How about the Uranium 1 deal? Now that was collusion of the treasonous type!
It doesnt matter. Trump is a meany and should be impeached because he is a meany. And, it doesnt matter if it was against the law to collude with Russia like Hilkary did or not. If he lied about not committing a not crime, then he should be hung for lying like Hillary and Comey and Clapper did. They shouldnt be hung for lying because they are not meanies. Thats why Cheryl Mills and all Hillarys buds and lowyers were given immunity, understand. They are goodies, not meanies. Sheesh.
If Cohen went to Prague, there is no basis for the libel suit.
If Cohen went to Prague there is no Deep State witch hunt.
If Cohen went to Prague our intel services and DoJ got caught flat-footed by an audacious traitor who then suddenly became their BOSS and what has followed makes perfect sense. As opposed to the load of "waaaa waaaa my püssy hurts!" hooey all y'all have spun up.
If Cohen went to Prague then it's extremely clear which side of this a patriotic American should take.
The dossier's primary claim with respect to Cohen was that he secretly went to Prague to meet with Russians fall 2016.
Cohen specifically denied that, and sued the media outlets that reported the dossier for libel.
It is reported that Mueller has proof Cohen went to Prague.
Cohen just dropped the libel suits against the media outlets that reported the dossier.
Yeah, we should take the side that got $145 million to sell U One, took trips to orgy island at taxpayer expense, gave $150 billion to Iran so they could pay Putin to become the next nuclear power, pay Quatar $5 billion to take al qaeda generals back into battle, accept $600 thousand from Boeing and $1 million from Putin to allow Boeing to rebuild Russias airforce,....
If Cohen went to Prague, there is no basis for the libel suit.
If Cohen went to Prague there is no Deep State witch hunt.
If Cohen went to Prague our intel services and DoJ got caught flat-footed by an audacious traitor who then suddenly became their BOSS and what has followed makes perfect sense. As opposed to the load of "waaaa waaaa my püssy hurts!" hooey all y'all have spun up.
If Cohen went to Prague then it's extremely clear which side of this a patriotic American should take.
The dossier's primary claim with respect to Cohen was that he secretly went to Prague to meet with Russians fall 2016.
Cohen specifically denied that, and sued the media outlets that reported the dossier for libel.
It is reported that Mueller has proof Cohen went to Prague.
Cohen just dropped the libel suits against the media outlets that reported the dossier.
Do the simple math you [bleep] retards.
You dumbp h u c k, better start paying attention as it's not looking good for your team. lol
[Holy shiet, even CNN is reporting it, what could this possibly mean? lol
That the full story of Russian collusion will likely finally be told... to include Hillary, DNC, Fusion GPS, Uranium One, Steele, Mueller et al.
Everbody knows that story. It's BEEN told.
Just not on ABC, CNN, MSNBC...etc.
As much as some people don't care for Hannity or Rush, their constant repeating of the facts and those involved seem to have finally begun to get legs.
That the full story of Russian collusion will likely finally be told... to include Hillary, DNC, Fusion GPS, Uranium One, Steele, Mueller et al.
Everbody knows that story. It's BEEN told.
Just not on ABC, CNN, MSNBC...etc.
As much as some people don't care for Hannity or Rush, their constant repeating of the facts and those involved seem to have finally begun to get legs.
It will be told, with the actual hard facts to back it up (not anonymous sources or barely pieced together stories), by every media outlet in the world. Perp walks will be shown in the news. It will be undeniable. #splodeyheads
Jell0, it is with extreme pleasure i take this opportunity to unregretfulluy inform you the content of Comeys recently released memos reveal you are not only a sucker but also a lying dimocrap apologist pos.
To wit: 1) Trump told Comey to investigate and expose anyone guilty of russian collusion in his campaign and to inform him posthaste.
2) Comey volunteered that Trump did not ask him to shut down the Russian collusion investigation.
You can read Comeys memos online, they are redacted and say classified right on them....How he stays out of jail now is anyones guess. Trump is going to come out of this looking good now.
Trump seems to think he can just lie his ass off and we are all too retarded to even notice.
<looks around at present company>
..... oh. I guess it actually WORKS on retards!
All y'all got your heads up your butts (you do) if you aren't connecting the blatantly obvious dots (you aren't). And if you actually believe a word that comes out of this pathological liar's mouth at this point (you do) then youse are idjits (you are).
Trump seems to think he can just lie his ass off and we are all too retarded to even notice.
<looks around at present company>
..... oh. I guess it actually WORKS on retards!
All y'all got your heads up your butts (you do) if you aren't connecting the blatantly obvious dots (you aren't). And if you actually believe a word that comes out of this pathological liar's mouth at this point (you do) then youse are idjits (you are).
Yeah, because he flies so fast he can cover over 5,000 miles in about 2 hours. The technology to do this is so super duper secret that the gubmint forced the media to bury the timeline so the people wouldn't find out.
Lol, Smokin' weed gives yo insight into things the common man could never understand.
It's going to happen just like you were told Jeff, question is are you going to accept it or are you just going to complain when your fellow swamp dwellers start going to jail?
I already know the answer, if anything you are predictable.
Major errors being considered in the time zone issue...
Moscow is UTC+3 and NY is UTC-4... it looks like 7 hours difference. It is not, it is 17 hours difference. It is already tomorrow when you cross the International Date Line. They are failing to accommodate the date.
Trump seems to think he can just lie his ass off and we are all too retarded to even notice.
<looks around at present company>
..... oh. I guess it actually WORKS on retards!
All y'all got your heads up your butts (you do) if you aren't connecting the blatantly obvious dots (you aren't). And if you actually believe a word that comes out of this pathological liar's mouth at this point (you do) then youse are idjits (you are).
The only obvious dots lead to you are blatantly insane and blatantly insanely wrong. Get help, though the lieberal demoncrap damage has already been done and is usually irreversible. So pack. All lieberals are not welcome in America. This country is for the sane and freedom loving people only.
Who cares who he talked to in 2013? He was private citizen Trump then. He was not candidate Trump. So this is your big sign of collusion that Trump going to the Miss Universe pagent in 2013 conspired to have Putin hack Hillary to defeat her and make Trump President? If he could do all of that, then why can't he get Ryan and McConnell to do his bidding? I mean, Trump must have some Jedi Mind Trick that only works on Russians:
(at the Miss Universe Pagent, in Darth Vader Voice)
"These are not the bimbos you are looking for. Vlad, I command you to destroy Hilary Rodham Clinton and her political Machine, or you shall learn the TRUE power of the Dark Side"
George Lucas needs to call you for some script ideas. you are a Leftist kook jello, but you are drinving my humble thread toward 1800 posts without titty pictures. Might be a record here. Thanks for that.
Anybody else notice a change in JeffO over the course of this thread? What started as a discussion now finds him chiming in every now and then when the Left gets some news they think they like and the insults fly. He wasn't like that at the start of this or previously, and it's almost as if Paddler has hacked his handle here. Maybe it's leftist frustration driving him further to the Dark Side.
Interesting tidbit- a poll conducted by Morris/McGloughlin shows an overwelming number of Americans are growing weary of Mueller and his investigation, believe Mueller has overstepped the scope of the investigation and doubt he has anything to connct Trump to Russian collusion. Same poll shows that a majority believe Mueller is a good guy trying to do a good job (Ha!) and it would be a mistake to fire him. So, probably a fair cross section of the voters.
That is making this Russian-Trump a drag. Alynski Rule #7 "A tactic that drags on too long becomes a drag." This has become a drag and even the moderate Left is tiring of it. As the IG reports come out, Mueller and his team are going to take a backseat to the corruption that will be exposed by the IG. What happens to Mueller then? Old news, 16 months and not much to show for it. Time to wrap it up.
Haven't said this in a while. It's still as true as the first time I said it, right here, archived on this thread forever: if Trump is innocent then this is indeed the biggest deep-state coup in history and would rate as a true 2nd Amendment moment. Right there with ya on that. On the other hand, if he's GUILTY, then this is one of the great victories of the rule of law, and of the American Constitution, and of the institutions that since resulted, over a traitor to the very idea of democracy.
And clearly, he's guilty.... or if he ain't, then he's the best POTUS in the history of the world at acting guilty. If you don't realize YET that this guy is a narcissistic lying sack who will say and do ANYTHING if he thinks it benefits HIM (he's also the "healthiest candidate in the history of the world!") then you deserve what's about to happen to what's left of your political credibility.
Prediction: clearly things are at a crises point in Trumpland. He'll make the only move he's got left soon enough, which will be some kind of machination of dubious legality to try to remove Rosenstien and Mueller. It's all he's got. It's the last desperate act of a guilty man. And you dumb addled sheeple [bleep] will be right here cheering it on.
Anybody else notice a change in JeffO over the course of this thread? What started as a discussion now finds him chiming in every now and then when the Left gets some news they think they like and the insults fly. He wasn't like that at the start of this or previously, and it's almost as if Paddler has hacked his handle here. Maybe it's leftist frustration driving him further to the Dark Side.
Let's go for 1800 posts on my humble thread.
Yeah, I have noticed it, now that you bring it up.
But I've noticed a lot of changes in Jeff's posts over the past 5 years or so, since his car wreck and severe concussion. Dunno if there's any causal relationship.
But I've also noticed a huge change in the personality and conversation of my oldest friend, who I've been in more or less continuous contact with for almost 60 years, since 2nd grade. My friend had an aortic valve replacement 3 years ago and had a complication wherein a "shower" of plaque particles ruptured off his aortic arch and caused dozens if not hundreds of tiny infarcts in his brain. (This, btw, is a common but rarely discussed complication of open-heart surgery, as I'm sure you know, Jeff.) The net result is that my friend, who used to be a very bright guy with an engaging and level personality and a political moderate, has become a raging Facebook social justice warrior, Trump-hater, and rabid liberal. I wonder if a similar thing has happened to JeffO. I do not mean this in jest, either. I am completely serious.
LOL Trump's camp leaking Mueller's questions then feigning outrage
LOL Trump's attempts to spin them to the fücktard base via, basically, the "collusion isn't an actual crime" defense
LOL the fücktard base lapping it up like Stormy.... oh never mind.
LOL your handlers not explaining that there's plenty of crimes associated with collusion
LOL you not noticing the part about campaign outreach.
LOL the fact that Trump would commit legal suicide answering (lying about) those questions, since Muelker already "knows things".
LOL that he won't, in fact, sit down for this meeting despite repeatedly saying he would.
LOL the American Right transforming into enablers of treason
Just plain....... LOL
LOL at your lame attempts at trying to convince anyone with a half a brain cell that you're right. You really should go see a doc because there is something seriously wrong with you.
Sometimes there is satisfaction in being proven correct as in:
Originally Posted by hatari
Anybody else notice a change in JeffO over the course of this thread? What started as a discussion now finds him chiming in every now and then when the Left gets some news they think they like and the insults fly. He wasn't like that at the start of this or previously, and it's almost as if Paddler has hacked his handle here. Maybe it's leftist frustration driving him further to the Dark Side.
So we hear that Trumps legal team is changing (left gets some news they think they like) and voila! The insults fly! Makes me look like Nostradamus at times
Originally Posted by Jeff_O
LOL those who "know things" bailing out while the getting is still good. This is gonna leave a mark.
Haven't said this in a while. It's still as true as the first time I said it, right here, archived on this thread forever: if Trump is innocent then this is indeed the biggest deep-state coup in history and would rate as a true 2nd Amendment moment. Right there with ya on that. On the other hand, if he's GUILTY, then this is one of the great victories of the rule of law, and of the American Constitution, and of the institutions that since resulted, over a traitor to the very idea of democracy.
And clearly, he's guilty.... or if he ain't, then he's the best POTUS in the history of the world at acting guilty. If you don't realize YET that this guy is a narcissistic lying sack who will say and do ANYTHING if he thinks it benefits HIM (he's also the "healthiest candidate in the history of the world!") then you deserve what's about to happen to what's left of your political credibility.
Prediction: clearly things are at a crises point in Trumpland. He'll make the only move he's got left soon enough, which will be some kind of machination of dubious legality to try to remove Rosenstien and Mueller. It's all he's got. It's the last desperate act of a guilty man. And you dumb addled sheeple [bleep] will be right here cheering it on.
So for sake of the discussion, what is a better explanation for the changes in Trump's legal team? More than likely, the team that assembled to help Trump negotiate a simple matter that he has no involvement in has run its course. What we have now is an obvious witch hunt, and Ty Cobb knows it. He has gone to Trump and said "Mueller has nothing, and he's fishing to get you on ANY perjury charge. Therefore, you better get some people in here to fight THAT fight. The fight you hired me for is over. They found nothing, but now are desperate and you better get some constitutional people to fight back or they will railroad you".
Let's consider those two possibilities. First, the one I stated just above, after 15 months of investigation and the whole Resist/Obstruct/Impeach movement, the pending IG report that will not be kind to Comey/Clapper and pals have spurred the Mueller team to frantic, desperate measures and Trump has been advised to get people better capable of dealing with them.
VS:
Well, that whole pile JeffO just laid on us.
Least I be ungrateful, JeffO continues to push my thread of humble origins toward the 2000 post milestone, and exposes Leftist kookery for us all to see. I hope Doc misses on this diagnosis. It would be sad to know that JEffO got some bad weed, or progressive brain damage from his fall. That's not cool.
Ty Cobb is wanting to retire, it's nothing more than that. From the link:
“For several weeks Ty Cobb has been discussing his retirement and last week he let Chief of Staff Kelly know he would retire at the end of this month,” White House Press Secretary Sarah Sanders said in a statement on Wednesday."
I noticed the change some time back. Either he disingenuously had me thinking he thought there was Russian/Trump collusion but was open to the possibility there was not and would be fine with that finding and that there was also a possibility of Hilkary Russian collusion and he wanted any involved with proof to be dealt with. Since that time his demeanor has progressed to that of a rabid, possibly insane pro socialist anti conservative open border, pro muzzie, hang Trump and save Hilliary at any cost raving banshee incapable of 2 way thought.
LOL Trump's camp leaking Mueller's questions then feigning outrage
LOL Trump's attempts to spin them to the fücktard base via, basically, the "collusion isn't an actual crime" defense
LOL the fücktard base lapping it up like Stormy.... oh never mind.
LOL your handlers not explaining that there's plenty of crimes associated with collusion
LOL you not noticing the part about campaign outreach.
LOL the fact that Trump would commit legal suicide answering (lying about) those questions, since Muelker already "knows things".
LOL that he won't, in fact, sit down for this meeting despite repeatedly saying he would.
LOL the American Right transforming into enablers of treason
Just plain....... LOL
Well, at least you have progressed past your previous Trump/Putin collusion fantasy. You really had us convinced you were hanging your ass on and reputation on that. Now you seem to be shifting your focus to another tyrannical act you will again bet your ass you hope pans out.
Least I be ungrateful, JeffO continues to push my thread of humble origins toward the 2000 post milestone, and exposes Leftist kookery for us all to see. I hope Doc misses on this diagnosis. It would be sad to know that JEffO got some bad weed, or progressive brain damage from his fall. That's not cool.
Actually, he had a real bad car wreck with extended loss of consciousness (several hours, IIRC). I don't think I can be any more specific than that.
I’ve long known Jeff was a liberal but could tolerate him because he was decent in his posts even when he was being attacked he usually remained decent, and for that I chose to disagree with him but I had a begrudging respect. I no longer feel that way and believe he’s gone off the deep end and not in a good way. 😁
He’s nothing more than an ignorant liberal with mental health issues. Fuggem.
I’ve long known Jeff was a liberal but could tolerate him because he was decent in his posts even when he was being attacked he usually remained decent, and for that I chose to disagree with him but I had a begrudging respect. I no longer feel that way and believe he’s gone off the deep end and not in a good way. 😁
No you guys just beat him up a few too many times. Simple as that.
I have absolutely zilch medical knowledge or experience to offer anything concrete, but I too have noticed a change. In the past year, some of what he comes up with have given me more than one WTF? moment in terms of it being over the wall bizarre. It's easy to laugh at "bad bong water" jokes and the like, but if there is indeed a medical/psychological problem, I hope he can get the help he needs.
Does anyone know anything about his personal life? Does he have close kin, and if he does, is this something that they would likely recognize in his behavior or is it more possibly a "can't see the forest for the trees" scenario for them from being around him all of the time?
Just curious, but since the issue has been raised, I too wonder what is really ticking (or maybe not ticking) in this man's mind.
I’ve long known Jeff was a liberal but could tolerate him because he was decent in his posts even when he was being attacked he usually remained decent, and for that I chose to disagree with him but I had a begrudging respect. I no longer feel that way and believe he’s gone off the deep end and not in a good way. 😁
No you guys just beat him up a few too many times. Simple as that.
I rarely bother to respond or read anything you or the other libs here say, but I saw this and had to laugh. Nobody forces any of you to come here and post. Getting beat up because you schitt in the punch bowl is not bullying.
I’ve long known Jeff was a liberal but could tolerate him because he was decent in his posts even when he was being attacked he usually remained decent, and for that I chose to disagree with him but I had a begrudging respect. I no longer feel that way and believe he’s gone off the deep end and not in a good way. 😁
No you guys just beat him up a few too many times. Simple as that.
I rarely bother to respond or read anything you or the other libs here say, but I saw this and had to laugh. Nobody forces any of you to come here and post. Getting beat up because you schitt in the punch bowl is not bullying.
JellO is an example of what happens when you abuse opiates and weed. You become a rabid Democrat!!!
I guess we do things a little different here. If a person wants to join the Democratic Party they have to prove their parents were related before they got married.
I’ve long known Jeff was a liberal but could tolerate him because he was decent in his posts even when he was being attacked he usually remained decent, and for that I chose to disagree with him but I had a begrudging respect. I no longer feel that way and believe he’s gone off the deep end and not in a good way. 😁
No you guys just beat him up a few too many times. Simple as that.
I rarely bother to respond or read anything you or the other libs here say, but I saw this and had to laugh. Nobody forces any of you to come here and post. Getting beat up because you schitt in the punch bowl is not bullying.
If you say so.
You're right. When can i crap in your next commie party punchbowl? I'm sure as stupid as you are you wont mind.
I’ve long known Jeff was a liberal but could tolerate him because he was decent in his posts even when he was being attacked he usually remained decent, and for that I chose to disagree with him but I had a begrudging respect. I no longer feel that way and believe he’s gone off the deep end and not in a good way. 😁
No you guys just beat him up a few too many times. Simple as that.
I rarely bother to respond or read anything you or the other libs here say, but I saw this and had to laugh. Nobody forces any of you to come here and post. Getting beat up because you schitt in the punch bowl is not bullying.
If you say so.
You're right. When can i crap in your next commie party punchbowl? I'm sure as stupid as you are you wont mind.
You've got a long wait. I don't have such parties. But you feel the need to throw insults and be a jerk, so that won't stop you. Yes, you are pathetic, but sadly, I don't feel bad for you.
Youre too stupid to have feelings, dickwad, which is why you dont care about this country or its constitution, other than what you and yours can be given by it.
I care more than you do about this country and the constitution. That's part of what you don't understand. You are too busy hurling politically correct insults one after the other to show everyone what a manly man you are(n't). You never disappoint that way.
Rod Rosenstein is doing a star turn as principled defender of the law, but he’s performed abysmally as deputy attorney general and President Donald Trump would be fully justified in firing him. The leaked questions that special counsel Robert Mueller wants to ask Trump in a prospective deposition are, if accurate, a sign that Mueller has spun out of control on Rosenstein’s watch. The questions suggest a free-floating investigation of the president’s motives, undertaken by a subordinate of the president. This is unlike any special-counsel investigation we’ve ever seen and represents a significant distortion of our system. Per the questions, Mueller wants to know how Trump reacted to news stories in the Washington Post. What he thought of FBI Director James Comey during the transition. What was the purpose of a statement he made to Maria Bartiromo of Fox Business Network. What he meant by a various tweets about Comey. How he feels about his attorney general. This is a sweeping and intrusive inquiry that isn’t just about about official acts, but about the president’s state of mind. Mueller doesn’t just want to know what Trump did or what he said, but what were his thoughts in any given moment. It’s an avenue of investigation that is literally boundless. Mueller wants to know what Trump did when the news broke in January 2018 that the president considered firing Mueller the year before. Perhaps now there will be a question about what Trump thought when the New York Times reported that Mueller wants to ask him about his thinking. These queries grow out of an obstruction of justice probed centered, as far as we can tell, on Trump’s exercise of the legitimate powers of the presidency. Mueller is out to prove that Trump had ill intentions. But this is an inherently problematic inquiry that involves a subordinate second-guessing the president on highly political questions. It is doubtful that a president can be guilty of obstruction of justice in exercising his official duties, precisely because passing judgment on the lawful acts of a president is not a matter for prosecutors or the courts, but for the political process (i.e., for the impeachment process if the acts are deemed abuses of power). It’s another matter if a president has engaged in actual criminal conduct, like suborning perjury or bribing witnesses, but there is no indication that Mueller is investigating anything of that nature. What makes Mueller different from previous special counsels is that his predecessors were given the mission of investigating specific alleged crimes. As my National Review colleague Andrew McCarthy has repeatedly pointed out, Rod Rosenstein mentioned no crimes in his initial order to Mueller, a violation of the special counsel regulations. He said only that Mueller should investigate collusion and anything related. This amorphous, wide-ranging guidance appears to have allowed Mueller to effortlessly slide from an amorphous, wide-ranging investigation into Russian meddling into an amorphous, wide-ranging investigation into obstruction of justice. (Rosenstein followed up 10 weeks later with a more specific memo to Mueller giving him more detailed authority.) Now, judging by the leaked questions, obstruction is the lion’s share of Mueller’s work. Absent smoking guns that we aren’t aware of (always possible), this is bizarre and disproportionate. We now have an extensive obstruction investigation carried out by investigators who, as a material matter, haven’t been obstructed. There’s been an intense focus, for instance, on Trump’s Oval Office discussion with then-FBI Director James Comey about going easy on Michael Flynn. But as Andy McCarthy also notes, no one went easy on Flynn, who is awaiting sentencing after pleading guilty to lying to the FBI. Regardless, current Justice Department guidance says the president can’t be indicted. If Mueller takes heed of it, he is limited to indicting underlings—often for lying to the FBI—and writing reports on his findings, with Congress the most important consumer. This means Mueller is, in effect, the lead investigative counsel for a prospective House impeachment committee. It’s an important position, just not one that should be housed within the executive branch. Should they win the House in the fall, Nancy Pelosi and her fellow leaders would be fully within their rights to create an impeachment committee and hire a bevy of investigators. Such a move would set up an appropriate clash between the executive and legislative branches, rather than the current perverse situation, which involves a part of the executive branch working very aggressively to cue up Nancy Pelosi on impeachment for next year. It is ultimately Rod Rosenstein who is responsible for the state of the investigation. On the merits, he should be fired and replaced by someone willing to exercise proper oversight of the special counsel, beginning by forbidding him from seeking an interview with the president on the current grounds or issuing a subpoena for his testimony. The problem is that the ramifications of a Rosenstein firing would be difficult to predict, other than that there would be considerable political downside and it, too, would become fodder for the maw of the obstruction investigation. A more practical lever would be to push for Rosenstein to recuse himself. He is a party to one of the events that Mueller is investigating, the firing of James Comey, and shouldn’t be overseeing a probe in which he’s a witness. To this point, the White House posture toward the Mueller investigation has been to cooperate and hope it goes away, when a root-and-branch legal and constitutional challenge to Mueller’s work is now what’s called for. Surely, Mueller will want to ask questions about such an effort, too—because he’s the unbounded investigatory ombudsman of the Trump era.
I’ve long known Jeff was a liberal but could tolerate him because he was decent in his posts even when he was being attacked he usually remained decent, and for that I chose to disagree with him but I had a begrudging respect. I no longer feel that way and believe he’s gone off the deep end and not in a good way. 😁
No you guys just beat him up a few too many times. Simple as that.
Hardly! The majority of men here are good and decent guys and were willing to put politics aside and give him help or advice off screen but it seems he’s mined this place for everything he needed and now it’s time for him to chit all over it.
He got a fair bit of help with lathe and machine shop info and then tried to chit on the member that helped him.
His attitude change is partially due to Trump Derangement Syndrome (TDS) and partially due to the fact that he’s an ungrateful, arrogant, liberal fa.g. He got what he wanted now he wants to act like a douchebag on his way out.
How can a sitting President, the boss of the DOJ(by constitutional authority) obstruct justice while managing his people? He can't!
You people are making this [bleep] up to suit your own deluded narrative. Put the bong down. He's the boss at the DOJ. If he tells them to eat [bleep] and die, then they do it or get fired for cause,. All constitutional. Sorry for you.
How can a sitting President, the boss of the DOJ(by constitutional authority) obstruct justice while managing his people? He can't!
You people are making this [bleep] up to suit your own deluded narrative. Put the bong down. He's the boss at the DOJ. If he tells them to eat [bleep] and die, then they do it or get fired for cause,. All constitutional. Sorry for you.
Thats not in the least bit fair, Hat. LeaRoy hasnt the brains to contemplate or argue that.
I’ve long known Jeff was a liberal but could tolerate him because he was decent in his posts even when he was being attacked he usually remained decent, and for that I chose to disagree with him but I had a begrudging respect. I no longer feel that way and believe he’s gone off the deep end and not in a good way. 😁
He’s nothing more than an ignorant liberal with mental health issues. Fuggem.
He's an unemployed drug addict on disability that smokes weed all day.
I’ve long known Jeff was a liberal but could tolerate him because he was decent in his posts even when he was being attacked he usually remained decent, and for that I chose to disagree with him but I had a begrudging respect. I no longer feel that way and believe he’s gone off the deep end and not in a good way. 😁
He’s nothing more than an ignorant liberal with mental health issues. Fuggem.
He's an employed drug addict on disability that smokes weed all day.
Not much that he posts should be surprising.
And yet people keep responding to him and other idiots like Paddler, LeroyBeans, GunTruck, etc.
Rudy Giuliani claimed over the weekend that the president of the United States need not comply with a subpoena to testify if he is called by Special Counsel Robert Mueller. But this dubious legal argument was clearly rebutted, back in 1998, by then-New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani. As President Donald Trump’s new legal counsel, Giuliani has undermined much of the president’s legal defense and admitted to a limited understanding of the facts. In a recent ABC This Week interview, he argued that presidents are exempt from subpoenas. “We don’t have to. He’s the president of the United States,” Giuliani told host George Stephanopoulos. “We can assert the same privileges other presidents have.” But 20 years ago, when Bill Clinton was in the White House, Giuliani took the exact opposite view. In a July 21, 1998 interview with Charlie Rose, he was asked about whether the president would have to testify before Independent Counsel Kenneth Starr’s grand jury if subpoenaed. “You gotta do it. I’m mean you don’t have a choice,” Giuliani, a former U.S. Attorney for the Southern District of New York opined. He added that if Clinton wanted to challenge it, he’d have to convince a judge of some sort of recognizable exemption privilege. “And if a judge decides he doesn’t, then you have to testify. You don’t have a choice about that,” Giuliani said. Clinton voluntarily testified a month later. “Under the criminal law, everyone should be treated the same,” 1998 Giuliani said. “And I know there are some people that say the president should be treated stricter. We used to have an era where the president was treated much more leniently. But I think the right answer is the president should be treated — as far as the criminal law is concerned, the president is a citizen.”
It's almost like partisanship has et up his brain since 1998.
Rudy Giuliani claimed over the weekend that the president of the United States need not comply with a subpoena to testify if he is called by Special Counsel Robert Mueller. But this dubious legal argument was clearly rebutted, back in 1998, by then-New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani. As President Donald Trump’s new legal counsel, Giuliani has undermined much of the president’s legal defense and admitted to a limited understanding of the facts. In a recent ABC This Week interview, he argued that presidents are exempt from subpoenas. “We don’t have to. He’s the president of the United States,” Giuliani told host George Stephanopoulos. “We can assert the same privileges other presidents have.” But 20 years ago, when Bill Clinton was in the White House, Giuliani took the exact opposite view. In a July 21, 1998 interview with Charlie Rose, he was asked about whether the president would have to testify before Independent Counsel Kenneth Starr’s grand jury if subpoenaed. “You gotta do it. I’m mean you don’t have a choice,” Giuliani, a former U.S. Attorney for the Southern District of New York opined. He added that if Clinton wanted to challenge it, he’d have to convince a judge of some sort of recognizable exemption privilege. “And if a judge decides he doesn’t, then you have to testify. You don’t have a choice about that,” Giuliani said. Clinton voluntarily testified a month later. “Under the criminal law, everyone should be treated the same,” 1998 Giuliani said. “And I know there are some people that say the president should be treated stricter. We used to have an era where the president was treated much more leniently. But I think the right answer is the president should be treated — as far as the criminal law is concerned, the president is a citizen.”
It's almost like partisanship has et up his brain since 1998.
Rudy Giuliani claimed over the weekend that the president of the United States need not comply with a subpoena to testify if he is called by Special Counsel Robert Mueller. But this dubious legal argument was clearly rebutted, back in 1998, by then-New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani. As President Donald Trump’s new legal counsel, Giuliani has undermined much of the president’s legal defense and admitted to a limited understanding of the facts. In a recent ABC This Week interview, he argued that presidents are exempt from subpoenas. “We don’t have to. He’s the president of the United States,” Giuliani told host George Stephanopoulos. “We can assert the same privileges other presidents have.” But 20 years ago, when Bill Clinton was in the White House, Giuliani took the exact opposite view. In a July 21, 1998 interview with Charlie Rose, he was asked about whether the president would have to testify before Independent Counsel Kenneth Starr’s grand jury if subpoenaed. “You gotta do it. I’m mean you don’t have a choice,” Giuliani, a former U.S. Attorney for the Southern District of New York opined. He added that if Clinton wanted to challenge it, he’d have to convince a judge of some sort of recognizable exemption privilege. “And if a judge decides he doesn’t, then you have to testify. You don’t have a choice about that,” Giuliani said. Clinton voluntarily testified a month later. “Under the criminal law, everyone should be treated the same,” 1998 Giuliani said. “And I know there are some people that say the president should be treated stricter. We used to have an era where the president was treated much more leniently. But I think the right answer is the president should be treated — as far as the criminal law is concerned, the president is a citizen.”
It's almost like partisanship has et up his brain since 1998.
Inspector General Michael Horowitz has referred his findings to prosecutor John Huber, having found "reasonable grounds" that the FBI and DOJ broke the law in the handling of the Clinton email investigation.
Public release of IG report on FBI/DOJ misconduct in handling of Clinton email investigation is pending. Any minute now. Tick tock.
It'd be funny to have a POTUS who gets his intel from wack-job conspiracy theorists and then spews it all over Twitter.......... except that 1/3 of America is retarded enough to swallow it. [bleep] sheeple.
I agree with James Clapper. It's a good thing the FBI was spying on the Trump campaign. It's also a good thing the DOJ and Obama and crew all knew about it. It drastically reduces the number of investigations needed to drain the swamp. We'll just investigate the DOJ-NSD and FBI bungling the Clinton email investigation (evidence already referred to Huber, IG report pending), investigate FISA abuse; investigate potential political motive behind the intelligence community spying at Trump and team. Pretty simple. Everyone that was in on those things is going down.
Meanwhile, we're still waiting for evidence of Trump-Russia collusion. And for someone, somewhere, to show where collusion is a crime.
It'd be funny to have a POTUS who gets his intel from wack-job conspiracy theorists and then spews it all over Twitter.......... except that 1/3 of America is retarded enough to swallow it. [bleep] sheeple.
So, Clapper admitting there was an FBI spy in the Trump campaign is what you call "wack-job (whack-job) conspiracy theorists"?
It'd be funny to have a POTUS who gets his intel from wack-job conspiracy theorists and then spews it all over Twitter.......... except that 1/3 of America is retarded enough to swallow it. [bleep] sheeple.
So, Clapper admitting there was an FBI spy in the Trump campaign is what you call "wack-job (whack-job) conspiracy theorists"?
I agree with James Clapper. It's a good thing the FBI was spying on the Trump campaign. It's also a good thing the DOJ and Obama and crew all knew about it. It drastically reduces the number of investigations needed to drain the swamp. We'll just investigate the DOJ-NSD and FBI bungling the Clinton email investigation (evidence already referred to Huber, IG report pending), investigate FISA abuse; investigate potential political motive behind the intelligence community spying at Trump and team. Pretty simple. Everyone that was in on those things is going down.
Meanwhile, we're still waiting for evidence of Trump-Russia collusion. And for someone, somewhere, to show where collusion is a crime.
Tsk, tsk, tsk. What the hell does it matter if collusion isnt a crime. You keep getting hung up on those minor little details.
So what, Flynn didnt lie to the FBI. They can still screw him over with prison unless he prefers his son be framed. Like bro Schumer said, dont cross the FBI, laws dont mean chitt. Kapeesh? We want Trump gone and it doesnt matter what hes done, kapeesh?
Ok, I've limited myself to expressing my opinion that the facts we know about would strongly infer that Trump and/or senior campaign members did in fact conspire with Russia to affect the election.
But this rates a call-out. What a steaming, stinking, lying pile of SHÏT this so-called man is. Cause yeah, economic yardsticks moving a couple hundredths of a percent point are why our soldiers fight and sacrifice. Jesus wept.
"Happy Memorial Day! Those who died for our great country would be very happy and proud at how well our country is doing today. Best economy in decades, lowest unemployment numbers for Blacks and Hispanics EVER (& women in 18years), rebuilding our Military and so much more. Nice!"
So, lets have a link to this major crime of collusion in your mind. We havent even seen a leak there was collusion. You arent a leak, youre a drip.
I say in your mind because there is no US law making it illegal. Also, Mueller just reported, iirc, he would not charge Trump with collusion or obstruction.
Perhaps Mueller would benefit from talking with you. Personally, i think hed discover, as have we, your delusional as can be.
Ok, I've limited myself to expressing my opinion that the facts we know about would strongly infer that Trump and/or senior campaign members did in fact conspire with Russia to affect the election.
But this rates a call-out. What a steaming, stinking, lying pile of SHÏT this so-called man is. Cause yeah, economic yardsticks moving a couple hundredths of a percent point are why our soldiers fight and sacrifice. Jesus wept.
"Happy Memorial Day! Those who died for our great country would be very happy and proud at how well our country is doing today. Best economy in decades, lowest unemployment numbers for Blacks and Hispanics EVER (& women in 18years), rebuilding our Military and so much more. Nice!"
Ok, I've limited myself to expressing my opinion that the facts we know about would strongly infer that Trump and/or senior campaign members did in fact conspire with Russia to affect the election.
But this rates a call-out. What a steaming, stinking, lying pile of SHÏT this so-called man is. Cause yeah, economic yardsticks moving a couple hundredths of a percent point are why our soldiers fight and sacrifice. Jesus wept.
"Happy Memorial Day! Those who died for our great country would be very happy and proud at how well our country is doing today. Best economy in decades, lowest unemployment numbers for Blacks and Hispanics EVER (& women in 18years), rebuilding our Military and so much more. Nice!"
What are your credentials to call him out?
Getting lost and injured isn't service.
What about falling off of a ladder? Does that count?
Ok, I've limited myself to expressing my opinion that the facts we know about would strongly infer that Trump and/or senior campaign members did in fact conspire with Russia to affect the election.
But this rates a call-out. What a steaming, stinking, lying pile of SHÏT this so-called man is. Cause yeah, economic yardsticks moving a couple hundredths of a percent point are why our soldiers fight and sacrifice. Jesus wept.
"Happy Memorial Day! Those who died for our great country would be very happy and proud at how well our country is doing today. Best economy in decades, lowest unemployment numbers for Blacks and Hispanics EVER (& women in 18years), rebuilding our Military and so much more. Nice!"
This just shows you are a failure as a man, and a failure as a patriot.
Only the enemy roots for the failure of our country.
Better be careful what you wish for. Because when our country fails, you will have to deal with us yourself.
The longer this collusion investigation goes on without the slightest hint that Trump colluded with Russia, the more unhinged the left becomes. I am an empathetic kind of guy, and when I view Trump through the eyes of a liberal, I fully understand their rage.
Right out of the gate they were pissed that he hasn't attended a Toxic Masculinity course at a university. Then he set about to laying waste to every person or institution that stood in his way. Seems Meghan Kelly was one of the first to do battle with him. How are her ratings today? Then the entire media went on a crusade against him. Americans trust in the media is now at an all time low. One by one he knocked out his Republican competitors in the primaries. Then he laid waste to the cankled one. The entire FBI went after him and as a result they are now viewed collectively as a laughing stock. It's not like they were accomplishing great things anyway, but now the mask has been removed and they are being seen for what they are. A few Republican senators have decided to wage war with him. Corker and Flake are quitting now rather than face the humiliation of being primaried out. McCain went up against him, and all I can say about that is "bless his heart."
Meuller has been waging war against Trump with his team of Democratic rain makers. Public confidence in Mueller has plummeted and the best his team has tuned up is a decade old business deal that Manafort skirted the law on. Well that and the impressive indictment against a Russian company that didn't exist during the election. Trump has single handedly laid to waste all who would dare to stand in the way of him making the country great again and has managed to in fact Make America Great Again despite all of the distraction and interference. He's been nailing one economic record after another and has kept his promises in a way I cannot recall being done in my lifetime. He freed hostages that had been held in North Korea through the Obama years and is strategically laying the ground work to lessen their nuclear threat.
I didn't vote for Trump. I owe him and all of you an apology. I had read him wrong. He has been singularly fantastic and Comey remains a blithering pussy.
Ok, I've limited myself to expressing my opinion that the facts we know about would strongly infer that Trump and/or senior campaign members did in fact conspire with Russia to affect the election.
But this rates a call-out. What a steaming, stinking, lying pile of SHÏT this so-called man is. Cause yeah, economic yardsticks moving a couple hundredths of a percent point are why our soldiers fight and sacrifice. Jesus wept.
"Happy Memorial Day! Those who died for our great country would be very happy and proud at how well our country is doing today. Best economy in decades, lowest unemployment numbers for Blacks and Hispanics EVER (& women in 18years), rebuilding our Military and so much more. Nice!"
Dude, you don't seem to be mentally stable. My sincere hope would be that you seek professional help, and that someone in the medical community could successfully treat whatever ails you.
Ok, I've limited myself to expressing my opinion that the facts we know about would strongly infer that Trump and/or senior campaign members did in fact conspire with Russia to affect the election.
But this rates a call-out. What a steaming, stinking, lying pile of SHÏT this so-called man is. Cause yeah, economic yardsticks moving a couple hundredths of a percent point are why our soldiers fight and sacrifice. Jesus wept.
"Happy Memorial Day! Those who died for our great country would be very happy and proud at how well our country is doing today. Best economy in decades, lowest unemployment numbers for Blacks and Hispanics EVER (& women in 18years), rebuilding our Military and so much more. Nice!"
Who knocked that cock out of Jeff_O 's mouth? Don't need to hear his BS!
Ok, I've limited myself to expressing my opinion that the facts we know about would strongly infer that Trump and/or senior campaign members did in fact conspire with Russia to affect the election.
But this rates a call-out. What a steaming, stinking, lying pile of SHÏT this so-called man is. Cause yeah, economic yardsticks moving a couple hundredths of a percent point are why our soldiers fight and sacrifice. Jesus wept.
"Happy Memorial Day! Those who died for our great country would be very happy and proud at how well our country is doing today. Best economy in decades, lowest unemployment numbers for Blacks and Hispanics EVER (& women in 18years), rebuilding our Military and so much more. Nice!"
What you are reading here is a temper tantrum.
His side lost the Presidency, and more importantly the Supreme Court. He’s been praying that some divine intervention will make his Trump nightmare go away before Ginsburg and Kennedy croak.
Guess what? For him, the unthinkable is happening - Trump is winning!
He can’t take it. JeffO is seeing the “BlueWave” peter out at sea. The likelihood of Trumps re-election is setting in. It is disturbing for him. He can’t figure out what is going on. He doesn’t understand patriotism, love of country, secure borders, fair trade.
He sure doesn’t agree with personal responsibility and hard work as keystones to prosperity and success. The Nanny State doesn’t take sweat, so that’s his preferred societal structure. Why work when you can collect disability, and smoke weed and phouc off all day everyday.
Ok, I've limited myself to expressing my opinion that the facts we know about would strongly infer that Trump and/or senior campaign members did in fact conspire with Russia to affect the election.
But this rates a call-out. What a steaming, stinking, lying pile of SHÏT this so-called man is. Cause yeah, economic yardsticks moving a couple hundredths of a percent point are why our soldiers fight and sacrifice. Jesus wept.
"Happy Memorial Day! Those who died for our great country would be very happy and proud at how well our country is doing today. Best economy in decades, lowest unemployment numbers for Blacks and Hispanics EVER (& women in 18years), rebuilding our Military and so much more. Nice!"
What you are reading here is a temper tantrum.
His side lost the Presidency, and more importantly the Supreme Court. He’s been praying that some divine intervention will make his Trump nightmare go away before Ginsburg and Kennedy croak. AND HE DOESNT EVEN BELIEVE IN THE DIVINITY.
Guess what? For him, the unthinkable is happening - Trump is winning! AND OTHER SUCKERS ARENT DRINKING THE KOOLAID AS HE DID. .
FIXT.
Hes losing it mentally. Zero lied to him. Just believing isnt getting it done. He believed in collusion with all his heart, fart and sole. He cant believe his own party knew all along there was no collusion. He cant believe they sucked him in with their dreamed up illusion.
This post at this late date would be enough to prove he is delusional in many courts.
Hat, a guy called in from a big city in Oregon the other day to a radio program. He said all the crap the lieberals have been giving Trump got him so pissed he resigned from the D party and and joined the R party and has been helping out at a R election campaign HQ.
He said that in the past week he has seen over 50 dhimmicraps come in and renig on the D party and sign up on the Rs.
<That's a good start, but I hate to know that California will seed Oregon with another 100,000 Leftists next year.
You know, JeffObama has a point, Trump is a ([bleep]). What he refuses to acknowledge publicly or privately it that Trump is the result and not the cause.
- Obamas race baiting caused Trump. Obamas abuse of Executive orders caused Trump. The Clinton machine orchestrating the candidacy of perhaps the most disagreeable woman in politics (that says something) is the cause. Trump is the antidote to the Alinsky tactics that the Clintons brought to Washington and that Barack Obama was all too familiar with with to carry on. The Left was willing to go to any length to get Hillary into office, and as we are finding out, the did and failed.
Do you recall those reports during the transition of Obama hold strategy meetings for the Democrats in Washington on how to deal with Trump at the birth of the "Resist and Obstruct" movement? I'd never heard of such before. We have elections, the loser bows out, the outgoing President leaves with little fanfare, and the new guy gets a honeymoon period to win people over and get things accomplished. Why would the Democrats need high level strategy meetings with the outgoing President? Seems to me you regroup and win the next election...unless you have been breaking the law and have a huge fear of getting caught, prosecuted, convicted and imprisoned!
Obama and the Clintons suddenly found themselves in a position of needing an unexpected and urgent cover your ass campaign. they were dirty, and had to bury the evidence and the bodies asap. They need a smoke screen and as many diversions to keep the spotlight off of what they had done as fast as possible. Hence they used what they had at hand. The Steele dossier, which turned out to be nothing to help the campaign, the Podesta think tank found a way to spin it into Trump collision. They figured that the GOP was stupid enough to play by the rules, get Sessions to recuse himself under pressure and appoint a Special council. The Dems knew the GOP had nothing to hide, so would go along. After all, they were not guilty of anything so why resist? The Dems know that once they the SC starts digging, they can find "something" - some technicality to nab somebody on. ("I'm shocked to find gambling in this establishment!") The Dems know where they have Friends (Rosenstein, Comey, Clapper, Brennen) who will cover for them. Hey JeffO, I'll give your people credit, they are smart! Crooked, but devilishly cleaver.
Remember the the famous HRC Qoute: “If that [bleep] bastard [Donald Trump] wins, we all hang from nooses"? Want to explain that one, Jeffy? How about the Peter Strzok and Lisa Page text? Want to explain that one. How dirty is Andrew McCabe in all of this? This is real [bleep], not drummed imaginary collusion fairytale stuff dreamed up by John Podesta and his band. I suppose, JeffO leaves the discussion at this point for some TUMs.
JeffO and his contemporaries were shocked to get beat by a crude individual like Trump when Hillary was a shoe in. He was numb andin denial for the transition. He became angry when the realization set in. He was hopeful when the MSM started floating this collusion crap out there and now that Trump has stymied the Leftist offensive and winning on all fronts, he's becoming angry and depressed. The AG report will blow the Democrat onslaught and turn the heat on them as the abuses of the Clintons and the Obama Admin come to light.
At that point, they go into Novembers election with little momentum and no message other than "we hate Trump". That might get them a few House seats, but where are they getting Senate seats? People are working, unemployment is down, America is seen as strong overseas. The NORKS are negotiating, the Mullahs in Iran are [bleep] their bedsheets, ISIS is crushed, Eastern Europe has rejected the flood of Muslims and in the process of rejecting the EU. Hell, even France is working with us. How must it feel to be Leftist Globalist at see even +France working with Trump? Trump is making headway with Xi in China. Note negotiating in the Clinton/W. Bush/Obama manner when you give China whatever they demand no matter how serious the damage tot eh US is. I mean negotiating with OUR best interests in mind. Trump is getting Xi to pressure Kim. This has NEVER HAPPENED! Not Nixon, Reagan or GHWB, certainly not Bill Clinton W. or Obama have achieved and progress with them. The Mullahs in Iran have been mocking US Presidents since Carter. They feared Reagan but screwed with him through proxy - i.e Hamas, Hezbollah, and Islamic Jihad. Think the Mullahs weren't behind the Marine Corps barracks bombing in Beirut? They don't dare try that [bleep] with Trump.
Yeah, JeffObama is not happy about having Trump, but he refuses to suffer in silence. He must throw his fit in public. He has so much mental angst over the outcome of the last election, he doesn't realize that he was the cause of his own misery. If his side had given us Joe Biden, there would have never been a Trump. If the Dems had run Al Gore in '08 (reminder - 2000± votes in Florida in 2000 was all that kept him out then) Al Gore would have been President over Romney and there would have never been a need for Trump. When the septic tank backs up into your house, you don't call a wedding planner, you call a plumber. A plumber is used to wading in crapola and cleaning it up. JeffObama's people flooded our country with Leftist crap, and the voters picked a plumber that was willing to clean it up.
<That's a good start, but I hate to know that California will seed Oregon with another 100,000 Leftists next year.
You know, JeffObama has a point, Trump is a ([bleep]). What he refuses to acknowledge publicly or privately it that Trump is the result and not the cause.
- Obamas race baiting caused Trump. Obamas abuse of Executive orders caused Trump. The Clinton machine orchestrating the candidacy of perhaps the most disagreeable woman in politics (that says something) is the cause. Trump is the antidote to the Alinsky tactics that the Clintons brought to Washington and that Barack Obama was all too familiar with with to carry the tactics on. The Left was willing to go to any length to get Hillary into office, and as we are finding out, the did and failed.
Do you recall those reports during the transition of Obama hold strategy meetings for the Democrats in Washington on how to deal with Trump at the birth of the "Resist and Obstruct" movement? I'd never heard of such before. We have elections, the loser bows out, the outgoing President leaves with little fanfare, and the new guy gets a honeymoon period to win people over and get things accomplished. Why would the Democrats need high level strategy meetings with the outgoing President? Seems to me you regroup and win the next election...unless you have been breaking the law and have a huge fear of getting caught, prosecuted, convicted and imprisoned!
Obama and the Clintons suddenly found themselves in a position of needing an unexpected and urgent cover your ass campaign. they were dirty, and had to bury the evidence and the bodies asap. They need a smoke screen and as many diversions to keep the spotlight off of what they had done as fast as possible. Hence they used what they had at hand. The Steele dossier, which turned out to be nothing to help the campaign, the Podesta think tank found a way to spin it into Trump collision. They figured that the GOP was stupid enough to play by the rules, get Sessions to recuse himself under pressure and appoint a Special council. The Dems knew the GOP had nothing to hide, so would go along. After all, they were not guilty of anything so why resist? The Dems know that once they the SC starts digging, they can find "something" - some technicality to nab somebody on. ("I'm shocked to find gambling in this establishment!") The Dems know where they have griends (Rosenstein, Comey, Clapper, Brennen) who will cover for them. He JeffO, I'll give your people credit, they are smart! Crooked, but devilishly cleaver.
Remember the the famous HRC Qoute: “If that [bleep] bastard [Donald Trump] wins, we all hang from nooses"? Want to explain that one, Jeffy? How about the Peter Strzok and Lisa Page text? Want to explain that one. How dirty is Andrew McCabe in all of this? This is real [bleep], not drummed imaginary collusion fairytale stuff dreamed up by John Podesta and his band. I suppose, JeffO leaves the discussion at this point for some TUMs.
JeffO and his contemporaries were shocked to get beat by a crude individual like Trump when Hillary was a shoe in. He was numb and denial for the transition. He became angry when the realization set in. He was hopeful when the MSM started floating this collusion crap out there and now that Trump has stymied the Leftist offensive and winning on all fronts, he's becoming angry and depressed. The AG report will blow the Democrat onslaught and turn the heat on them as the abuses of the Clintons and the Obama Admin come to light.
At that point, the go into Novembers election with little momentum and no message other than "we hate Trump". That might get them a few House seats, but where are they getting Senate seats? People are working, unemployment is down, America is seen as strong overseas. The NORKS are negotiating, the Mullahs in Iran are [bleep] their bedsheets, ISIS is crushed, Eastern Europe has rejected the flood of Muslims and in the process of rejecting the EU. Hell, even France is working with us. How must it feel to be Leftist Globalist at see even +France working with Trump? Trump is making headway with Xi in China. Note negotiating in the Clinton/W. Bush/Obama manner when you give China whatever they demand no matter how serious the damage tot eh US is. I mean negotiating with OUR best interests in mind. Trump is getting Xi to pressure Kim. This has NEVER HAPPENED! Not Nixon, Reagan or GHWB, certainly not Bill Clinton W. or Obama have achieved and progress with them. The Mullahs in Iran have been mocking US Presidents since Carter. They feared Reagan but screwed with him through proxy - i.e Hamas, Hezbollah, and Islamic Jihad. Think the Mullahs weren't behind the Marine Corps barracks bombing in Beirut? They don't dare try that [bleep] with Trump.
Yeah, JeffObama is not happy about having Trump, but he refuses to suffer in silence. He must throw his fit in public. He has so much mental angst over the outcome of the last election, he doesn't realize that he was the cause of his own misery. If his side had given us Joe Biden, there would have never been a Trump. If the Dems had run Al Gore in '08 (reminder - 2000± votes in Florida in 2000 was all that kept him out then) Al Gore would have been President over Romney and there would have never been a need for Trump. When the septic tank backs up into your house, you don't call a wedding planner, you call a plumber. A plumber is used to wading in crapola and cleaning it up. JeffObama's people flooded our country with Leftist crap, and the voters picked a plumber that was willing to clean it up.
Yeah, JeffObama is not happy about having Trump, but he refuses to suffer in silence. He must throw his fit in public.
Trump brings out the true colors in people. Trump takes away the ability of leftist to filter their leftist ideology to a more centrist point of view . This President was the best thing to happen to this country in my lifetime.
15 replies to an idiot marxist ieberal demoncrap, all of whom are not even human beings anymore, given their "beliefs" of depravity and practices unbecoming a member of humanity.
Just say "no" to future replies and let this thread and all of those replying to those sub-humans who simply do not matter. It will make what needs to be done later so much easier.
The longer this collusion investigation goes on without the slightest hint that Trump colluded with Russia, the more unhinged the left becomes. I am an empathetic kind of guy, and when I view Trump through the eyes of a liberal, I fully understand their rage.
Right out of the gate they were pissed that he hasn't attended a Toxic Masculinity course at a university. Then he set about to laying waste to every person or institution that stood in his way. Seems Meghan Kelly was one of the first to do battle with him. How are her ratings today? Then the entire media went on a crusade against him. Americans trust in the media is now at an all time low. One by one he knocked out his Republican competitors in the primaries. Then he laid waste to the cankled one. The entire FBI went after him and as a result they are now viewed collectively as a laughing stock. It's not like they were accomplishing great things anyway, but now the mask has been removed and they are being seen for what they are. A few Republican senators have decided to wage war with him. Corker and Flake are quitting now rather than face the humiliation of being primaried out. McCain went up against him, and all I can say about that is "bless his heart."
Meuller has been waging war against Trump with his team of Democratic rain makers. Public confidence in Mueller has plummeted and the best his team has tuned up is a decade old business deal that Manafort skirted the law on. Well that and the impressive indictment against a Russian company that didn't exist during the election. Trump has single handedly laid to waste all who would dare to stand in the way of him making the country great again and has managed to in fact Make America Great Again despite all of the distraction and interference. He's been nailing one economic record after another and has kept his promises in a way I cannot recall being done in my lifetime. He freed hostages that had been held in North Korea through the Obama years and is strategically laying the ground work to lessen their nuclear threat.
I didn't vote for Trump. I owe him and all of you an apology. I had read him wrong. He has been singularly fantastic and Comey remains a blithering pussy.
I would venture a guess that many are feeling this same way. The D leaders are driving LEFT @ 150 MPH leaving many 'middle of the roaders' no option but to leave the party.
The latest to come to light from the dank recesses of the Trump treason enablers.... eh, Trump legal team.... is the flat assertion that he's utterly above the law.
Add that to Rudy G's complete 180-degree flip-flop on whether a POTUS can be subpoenaed to testify, and we've got yet more examples of the ludicrous hypocrisy that Trump supporters barf up on a daily basis. Yeah, 'cause if Hillary had won you'd all be saying she was 100% above the law. Yeah, and the likes of Rudy G. would be making the argument she couldn't be subpoenaed. Yeah, that's the ticket.
What a buncha spineless, principleless, America-hating puppets. You've been propagandized into pure slack-jawed retards repeating whatever you're told to repeat. You'll whine like little snowflake bitches over that, yet I'm quite certain many of you are lining up to suck this latest COCK! Trump is shoving in our faces.
Yeah, JeffObama is not happy about having Trump, but he refuses to suffer in silence. He must throw his fit in public.
Trump brings out the true colors in people. Trump takes away the ability of leftist to filter their leftist ideology to a more centrist point of view . This President was the best thing to happen to this country in my lifetime.
Like Obama, the full impact of Trump's administration will not be understood for a number of years.
And also like Obama, Trump's main claim to fame so far is he made a subset of Americans feel like they were important, like they were noticed, like the government was going to be run more for their benefit.
Maybe that is the new role of the President, to make people feel better about themselves.
I'm enjoying a quiet rainy Sunday drinking coffee and reading Undaunted Courage by Stephen Ambrose (again) and listening to the PBS Ken Burns Civil War. We can use the rain and I can be lazy today.
PS:...Trump is merely the scalpel by which the people, of principled integrity, cut the diseased and cancerous lesions and parasites from the flesh of the Nation.
Yeah, JeffObama is not happy about having Trump, but he refuses to suffer in silence. He must throw his fit in public.
Trump brings out the true colors in people. Trump takes away the ability of leftist to filter their leftist ideology to a more centrist point of view . This President was the best thing to happen to this country in my lifetime.
Trump's main claim to fame so far is he made a subset of Americans feel like they were important, like they were noticed,
Obviously they were noticed with the amount of venom dripping from the lefts fangs aimed at them.
The latest to come to light from the dank recesses of the Trump treason enablers.... eh, Trump legal team.... is the flat assertion that he's utterly above the law.
Add that to Rudy G's complete 180-degree flip-flop on whether a POTUS can be subpoenaed to testify, and we've got yet more examples of the ludicrous hypocrisy that Trump supporters barf up on a daily basis. Yeah, 'cause if Hillary had won you'd all be saying she was 100% above the law. Yeah, and the likes of Rudy G. would be making the argument she couldn't be subpoenaed. Yeah, that's the ticket.
What a buncha spineless, principleless, America-hating puppets. You've been propagandized into pure slack-jawed retards repeating whatever you're told to repeat. You'll whine like little snowflake bitches over that, yet I'm quite certain many of you are lining up to suck this latest COCK! Trump is shoving in our faces.
The latest to come to light from the dank recesses of the Trump treason enablers.... eh, Trump legal team.... is the flat assertion that he's utterly above the law.
Add that to Rudy G's complete 180-degree flip-flop on whether a POTUS can be subpoenaed to testify, and we've got yet more examples of the ludicrous hypocrisy that Trump supporters barf up on a daily basis. Yeah, 'cause if Hillary had won you'd all be saying she was 100% above the law. Yeah, and the likes of Rudy G. would be making the argument she couldn't be subpoenaed. Yeah, that's the ticket.
What a buncha spineless, principleless, America-hating puppets. You've been propagandized into pure slack-jawed retards repeating whatever you're told to repeat. You'll whine like little snowflake bitches over that, yet I'm quite certain many of you are lining up to suck this latest COCK! Trump is shoving in our faces.
Those who aren't, need not take offense.
Suck on, gentlemen.
Easily the dumbest asswipe on the fire
No, he is on par with Rolling Turder... Oh yeah, because they are one and the same...
PS:...Trump is merely the scalpel by which the people, of principled integrity, cut the diseased and cancerous lesions and parasites from the flesh of the Nation.
The longer this collusion investigation goes on without the slightest hint that Trump colluded with Russia, the more unhinged the left becomes.
Jeff Obama is a good example of this.
Originally Posted by PaulBarnard
I didn't vote for Trump. I owe him and all of you an apology.
Make sure you remember this well come November, also be sure to help convince anyone you know on the fence.
No apology needed for practicing a right guaranteed under the Constitution, it was dumb but your right to do.
Be quiet you Phat [bleep].
Remember this well: Crossfire Hurricane. The operation that brings down this criminal enterprise.
I predict that Manafort will plead guilty and flip this coming week.
That would leave only Michael Cohen, Jared Kushner and a few other Trump campaign members left to plead guilty and confess their crimes against the USA.
They will all flip in the coming weeks and confess their crimes against the United States of America.
God Bless America and God Bless Robert Mueller for punishing these scumbag criminals.
Do i sense that you are ready to bless us with all the reasons open borders, muzzie immigration and releasing illegal alien criminals back onto our streets is good for the US?
Please note the change of tone and attitude from JeffO's first post on this thread to his latest. It's almost as if a different person is writing for him. More than likely, it is the frustration as the realization that the collusion back up plan to run Trump out of office is withering before his eyes. To make matters worse, Trump is winning on taxes, trade, the courts, energy, and foreign policy in ways Obama never could. I believe it has sent him over the edge.
First post
Originally Posted by Jeff_O
Swamp-draining is fine by me but this wasn't that. In a bizarre way, Comey had credibility across the aisle. This was an ego- and emotion-based decision and, IMHO, a big mistake.
When was the last time we had a POTUS turtle up, fume for days, then fire the man investigating him? How'd that turn out?
My belief has been that there's a lot of "there" there in the Russian collusion mess. Might not reach Trump- might be confined to Page, Stone, Manafort, Flynn, or some combo, but I think it happened. I think law enforcement has been doing what they do: methodically building the case. I think this brings all that to a head. Guess we'll see. I kinda hope I'm wrong but I doubt it.
Latest psychobabble - The ramblings of a tormented mind:
Originally Posted by Jeff_O
The latest to come to light from the dank recesses of the Trump treason enablers.... eh, Trump legal team.... is the flat assertion that he's utterly above the law.
Add that to Rudy G's complete 180-degree flip-flop on whether a POTUS can be subpoenaed to testify, and we've got yet more examples of the ludicrous hypocrisy that Trump supporters barf up on a daily basis. Yeah, 'cause if Hillary had won you'd all be saying she was 100% above the law. Yeah, and the likes of Rudy G. would be making the argument she couldn't be subpoenaed. Yeah, that's the ticket.
What a buncha spineless, principleless, America-hating puppets. You've been propagandized into pure slack-jawed retards repeating whatever you're told to repeat. You'll whine like little snowflake bitches over that, yet I'm quite certain many of you are lining up to suck this latest COCK! Trump is shoving in our faces.
Please note the change of tone and attitude from JeffO's first post on this thread to his latest. It's almost as if a different person is writing for him. More than likely, it is the frustration as the realization that the collusion back up plan to run Trump out of office is withering before his eyes. To make matters worse, Trump is winning on taxes, trade, the courts, energy, and foreign policy in ways Obama never could. I believe it has sent him over the edge.
First post
Originally Posted by Jeff_O
Swamp-draining is fine by me but this wasn't that. In a bizarre way, Comey had credibility across the aisle. This was an ego- and emotion-based decision and, IMHO, a big mistake.
When was the last time we had a POTUS turtle up, fume for days, then fire the man investigating him? How'd that turn out?
My belief has been that there's a lot of "there" there in the Russian collusion mess. Might not reach Trump- might be confined to Page, Stone, Manafort, Flynn, or some combo, but I think it happened. I think law enforcement has been doing what they do: methodically building the case. I think this brings all that to a head. Guess we'll see. I kinda hope I'm wrong but I doubt it.
Latest psychobabble - The ramblings of a tormented mind:
Originally Posted by Jeff_O
The latest to come to light from the dank recesses of the Trump treason enablers.... eh, Trump legal team.... is the flat assertion that he's utterly above the law.
Add that to Rudy G's complete 180-degree flip-flop on whether a POTUS can be subpoenaed to testify, and we've got yet more examples of the ludicrous hypocrisy that Trump supporters barf up on a daily basis. Yeah, 'cause if Hillary had won you'd all be saying she was 100% above the law. Yeah, and the likes of Rudy G. would be making the argument she couldn't be subpoenaed. Yeah, that's the ticket.
What a buncha spineless, principleless, America-hating puppets. You've been propagandized into pure slack-jawed retards repeating whatever you're told to repeat. You'll whine like little snowflake bitches over that, yet I'm quite certain many of you are lining up to suck this latest COCK! Trump is shoving in our faces.
"As has been stated by numerous legal scholars, I have the absolute right to PARDON myself, but why would I do that when I have done nothing wrong?" tweeted Trump. "In the meantime, the never ending Witch Hunt, led by 13 very Angry and Conflicted Democrats (& others) continues into the mid-terms!"
He, and Rudy G, are quite obviously softening the ground here.
However, the joke's on them, because "the ground" in this case consists of his hardcore bases' brains, which are already soft as pudding. The rest of us are just marveling at the Trump/puddin' head shït show.
The lying [bleep] is sooooo guilty. He reeks of it. You'd know this if your head wasn't up your ass. You'd care if you hadn't lost your freaking minds. Err............. puddings.
"As has been stated by numerous legal scholars, I have the absolute right to PARDON myself, but why would I do that when I have done nothing wrong?" tweeted Trump. "In the meantime, the never ending Witch Hunt, led by 13 very Angry and Conflicted Democrats (& others) continues into the mid-terms!"
He, and Rudy G, are quite obviously softening the ground here.
However, the joke's on them, because "the ground" in this case consists of his hardcore bases' brains, which are already soft as pudding. The rest of us are just marveling at the Trump/puddin' head shït show.
The lying [bleep] is sooooo guilty. He reeks of it. You'd know this if your head wasn't up your ass. You'd care if you hadn't lost your freaking minds. Err............. puddings.
I used to be rather sympathetic to the abuse you took here. In retrospect, it was obviously (and continues to be) well-earned. You really are a delusional hemorrhoid, and, hands-down, the most likely to get his teeth kicked in at a campfire gathering.
You certainly march to the beat of your own drum - perhaps it's time you go play with your own kind.
"As has been stated by numerous legal scholars, I have the absolute right to PARDON myself, but why would I do that when I have done nothing wrong?" tweeted Trump. "In the meantime, the never ending Witch Hunt, led by 13 very Angry and Conflicted Democrats (& others) continues into the mid-terms!"
He, and Rudy G, are quite obviously softening the ground here.
However, the joke's on them, because "the ground" in this case consists of his hardcore bases' brains, which are already soft as pudding. The rest of us are just marveling at the Trump/puddin' head shït show.
The lying [bleep] is sooooo guilty. He reeks of it. You'd know this if your head wasn't up your ass. You'd care if you hadn't lost your freaking minds. Err............. puddings.
I used to be rather sympathetic to the abuse you took here. In retrospect, it was obviously (and continues to be) well-earned. You really are a delusional hemorrhoid, and, hands-down, the most likely to get his teeth kicked in at a campfire gathering.
You certainly march to the beat of your own drum - perhaps it's time you go play with your own kind.
But it's not his own drum. He's simply a useful idiot to his handlers who have pumped his head full of foolish lies. It's what lieberal demoncraps are and do.
But it's not his own drum. He's simply a useful idiot to his handlers who have pumped his head full of foolish lies. It's what lieberal demoncraps are and do.
The rest of us are just marveling at the Trump/puddin' head shït show.
The lying [bleep] is sooooo guilty. He reeks of it. You'd know this if your head wasn't up your ass. You'd care if you hadn't lost your freaking minds. Err............. puddings. [/quote]
1) So bro, just who are "the rest of us" turds you are referring to, please? I suppose you didnt hear about the new Strzok-Page emails released last week revealing how the WH wanted to be kept informed of the insurance policy.
Hell, you probably arent even aware that we know Hillary and the DNC paid $12 million for the trumped up Trump dossier. Hey Hliibiotch and the DNC illegally paying foreign sources to subvert a US election is a Federal Offense, except to the brain dead like you.
Hillary, Clapper and Brennan even know he isnt guilty or they would be showing proof and shouting it from roof tops. Even Comey says he doesnt know if the story is true and told Trump it was unsubstantiated and nothing to worry aboit according to his previous testimoney. He also says that as of yet, they havent substanciated the story. Why, inquiring minds might ask, as in contrast to minds like yours? Because, they dont want to know the truth. There is nothing to the bs story, other than subversion by govt officials to destroy a sitting, legally elected POTUS.
The FBI does know who paid for it and how much.
2. The only think that reeks to you is the ass you have your head up. Evidently, you would prefer having your head up Hillarys ass than stuck in a hole in the ground.
[i]"As has been stated by numerous legal scholars, I have the absolute right to PARDON myself, but why would I do that when I have done nothing wrong?" tweeted Trump.
Jeffo you simpleton, this stuff is really so elementary to most,
Why should the President, any President, be required to waste even more time on such a fact less issue?
Most of us would prefer he continues to run the country rather than playing stupid games all day,
Some of us actually do have jobs and responsibilities..............
The lying [bleep] is sooooo guilty. He reeks of it. You'd know this if your head wasn't up your ass. You'd care if you hadn't lost your freaking minds. Err............. puddings.
I think Jeffo's real goal in life is to exchange himself with Lead on the periodic table of elements has the densest thing on Earth, No other explanation.......
Guilty of what?
Reeks of it?
Got any facts?
Top officials of how many agency's have spent 18 months looking, still no evidence,
FBI, CIA, National Intelligence Agency and others...
Where's the smoking gun? How many man hours spent looking, how much money wasted?
What's so pathetically funny about this is that it HAS leaked. You'd have to have your head up your own ass be living in an alt.reality news bubble AND have turned off your BS detector AND be a partisan fücktard (parttard?) to not realize this.
What's even more pathetically funny is watching you guys make excuses as each leak has been proven true. Remember when his campaign had no contacts with Russians?! Bwa ha ha. No contacts with Wiki? Remember when Cohen had never been to Prague? When Trump didn't dictate the flat lie about the Tower meeting? It just goes on and on. One lie after another. One leak proven true after another.
It's not a witch hunt and you're the very definition of a sheeple if you think it is. Parttard [bleep].
What's so pathetically funny about this is that it HAS leaked. You'd have to have your head up your own ass be living in an alt.reality news bubble AND have turned off your BS detector AND be a partisan fücktard (parttard?) to not realize this.
What's even more pathetically funny is watching you guys make excuses as each leak has been proven true. Remember when his campaign had no contacts with Russians?! Bwa ha ha. No contacts with Wiki? Remember when Cohen had never been to Prague? When Trump didn't dictate the flat lie about the Tower meeting? It just goes on and on. One lie after another. One leak proven true after another.
It's not a witch hunt and you're the very definition of a sheeple if you think it is. Parttard [bleep].
Here is something I'll agree to in the article you cite:
"Instead of discussing presidential pardons or subpoenas, President Trump and his legal team would do well to focus on the legitimacy of the entire investigation because it is truly a house of cards built on a foundation of air."
And it is, and that will be known far and wide by all very shortly. Most understand that, many soon will, and the rest, like the trash, may have to be taken out. Choose well.
The latest to come to light from the dank recesses of the Trump treason enablers.... eh, Trump legal team.... is the flat assertion that he's utterly above the law.
Add that to Rudy G's complete 180-degree flip-flop on whether a POTUS can be subpoenaed to testify, and we've got yet more examples of the ludicrous hypocrisy that Trump supporters barf up on a daily basis. Yeah, 'cause if Hillary had won you'd all be saying she was 100% above the law. Yeah, and the likes of Rudy G. would be making the argument she couldn't be subpoenaed. Yeah, that's the ticket.
What a buncha spineless, principleless, America-hating puppets. You've been propagandized into pure slack-jawed retards repeating whatever you're told to repeat. You'll whine like little snowflake bitches over that, yet I'm quite certain many of you are lining up to suck this latest COCK! Trump is shoving in our faces.
Is this the best that the Democratic underground has for talking points to troll us with?
You have become the Progressive version of the Obama birthers. Those people who thought they could get Obama out of office because of his birth certificate. Well, nothing ever came of it. Nothing will come of this and you will become increasingly frustrated as your fantasy of reversing the 2016 election remains just that - fantasy.
Where is your faith in the "Blue Wave"? You'd be better off trying to tell us how the Dems are going to pick up 10 Senate seats and 80 in the House. It ain't gonna happen, but it's a better story than this foolishness.
Originally Posted by Jeff_O
What's so pathetically funny about this is that it HAS leaked. You'd have to have your head up your own ass be living in an alt.reality news bubble AND have turned off your BS detector AND be a partisan fücktard (parttard?) to not realize this.
What's even more pathetically funny is watching you guys make excuses as each leak has been proven true. Remember when his campaign had no contacts with Russians?! Bwa ha ha. No contacts with Wiki? Remember when Cohen had never been to Prague? When Trump didn't dictate the flat lie about the Tower meeting? It just goes on and on. One lie after another. One leak proven true after another.
It's not a witch hunt and you're the very definition of a sheeple if you think it is. Parttard [bleep].
What's so pathetically funny about this is that it HAS leaked. You'd have to have your head up your own ass be living in an alt.reality news bubble AND have turned off your BS detector AND be a partisan fücktard (parttard?) to not realize this.
What's even more pathetically funny is watching you guys make excuses as each leak has been proven true. Remember when his campaign had no contacts with Russians?! Bwa ha ha. No contacts with Wiki? Remember when Cohen had never been to Prague? When Trump didn't dictate the flat lie about the Tower meeting? It just goes on and on. One lie after another. One leak proven true after another.
It's not a witch hunt and you're the very definition of a sheeple if you think it is. Parttard [bleep].
You fell off the ladder again because you can't truly be this p h u c k i n g stupid. Talk about sheeple.
Face it, there's no way Hillary sees the inside of the WH ever again.
Trump will serve out 8 years, possibly followed by Pence but more likely on of the two elder Trump sons with Ivanka as VP. The communist democrat party is dead. The democrats endorsed MS-13 and lawlessness. That's all they have as a platform. That and fugck Trump. They're a party lost at sea with no rudder and no radio. They're going to drift into obscurity until they luck into someone who can drive the party back to the center.
One of the most important things Trump has done is to destroy legacy media and expose social media. They have been exposed as the shills they are and people are losing trust. Eroding trust in the DNC-supported MSM is a key part of destroying the democrat party.
Lol Sanders being a whiny little snowflake. "Waaaa trying to tear me down waaaa waaaa when all I did was tell a flat lie waaaaaaaa".... lol
In case your fücktard selves aren't aware, this was another blatant "Russia" lie that, yep, was leaked first. But that's not my point here, though it's a valid one. My point is that the only reason Trump et al came "clean"'on this- to the extent that a lying sack of shït can be said to have come clean- is that Ms. Hicks was unwilling to lie to the FBI about it.
Hadn't heard that? PULL YOUR HEAD OUT OF YOUR ASSES (you won't) AND START PAYING ATTENTION! Christ in a cracker people..... It's all out there..... unless of course you are in a news bubble going "la la la la la!" (you are).
Face it, there's no way Hillary sees the inside of the WH ever again.
Trump will serve out 8 years, possibly followed by Pence but more likely on of the two elder Trump sons with Ivanka as VP. The communist democrat party is dead. The democrats endorsed MS-13 and lawlessness. That's all they have as a platform. That and fugck Trump. They're a party lost at sea with no rudder and no radio. They're going to drift into obscurity until they luck into someone who can drive the party back to the center.
One of the most important things Trump has done is to destroy legacy media and expose social media. They have been exposed as the shills they are and people are losing trust. Eroding trust in the DNC-supported MSM is a key part of destroying the democrat party.
That's pretty darned good analysis. They will win at the local level in the deep Blue Marxist metro areas. They will succeed in killing California through choking taxes, Draconian regulation of everything, insistence on Green everything, and most importantly they will be buried by illegals. Their social welfare system will collapse. Sate pensions will bankrupt the budget. Businesses will leave at an accelerated rate. Calfornia will resemble a Third World country in that they will have very weathy and they will havea lower Middle Class working to make endes meet and a major welfare class and nothing else. Gangs will expand out of the urban areas, be the ruling factor in all the public high schools recruiting and spreading crime. Break ins, armed robbery and drugs will be universal in all communities. The Disney California of the 1950's with Hot Rods and Drive Ins and happy teens at the beach will be but a footnote in history, probably characterized as "the White Racist era before people of color were allowed to diversify the culture".
Gavin Newsome will become governor and cram Progressism down California's throat. You will accept abortion, you will accept LGBT, you will accept Open Borders, Sanctuary State, Green everything, zero emissions, and high taxes.
Honestly, did the same person write both of these posts?
Before 2018, his posts were written in somewhat of persuasive style:
Originally Posted by Jeff_O
Swamp-draining is fine by me but this wasn't that. In a bizarre way, Comey had credibility across the aisle. This was an ego- and emotion-based decision and, IMHO, a big mistake.
When was the last time we had a POTUS turtle up, fume for days, then fire the man investigating him? How'd that turn out?
My belief has been that there's a lot of "there" there in the Russian collusion mess. Might not reach Trump- might be confined to Page, Stone, Manafort, Flynn, or some combo, but I think it happened. I think law enforcement has been doing what they do: methodically building the case. I think this brings all that to a head. Guess we'll see. I kinda hope I'm wrong but I doubt it.
Now, they are combative, confrontational, and vulgar. He never wrote that way before. I don't recognize the same person. Some other sock puppet hack his account, or as Doc suggests mental illness? I don't mind a spirited debate, but really don't want anyone to get dementia....
Originally Posted by Jeff_O
"As has been stated by numerous legal scholars, I have the absolute right to PARDON myself, but why would I do that when I have done nothing wrong?" tweeted Trump. "In the meantime, the never ending Witch Hunt, led by 13 very Angry and Conflicted Democrats (& others) continues into the mid-terms!"
He, and Rudy G, are quite obviously softening the ground here.
However, the joke's on them, because "the ground" in this case consists of his hardcore bases' brains, which are already soft as pudding. The rest of us are just marveling at the Trump/puddin' head shït show.
The lying [bleep] is sooooo guilty. He reeks of it. You'd know this if your head wasn't up your ass. You'd care if you hadn't lost your freaking minds. Err............. puddings.
Lol Sanders being a whiny little snowflake. "Waaaa trying to tear me down waaaa waaaa when all I did was tell a flat lie waaaaaaaa".... lol
In case your fücktard selves aren't aware, this was another blatant "Russia" lie that, yep, was leaked first. But that's not my point here, though it's a valid one. My point is that the only reason Trump et al came "clean"'on this- to the extent that a lying sack of shït can be said to have come clean- is that Ms. Hicks was unwilling to lie to the FBI about it.
Hadn't heard that? PULL YOUR HEAD OUT OF YOUR ASSES (you won't) AND START PAYING ATTENTION! Christ in a cracker people..... It's all out there..... unless of course you are in a news bubble going "la la la la la!" (you are).
You have exactly no evidence, of your claims being true. Obama set out to destroy America from within. This has been the plan all along, fom both sides. They are globalists, not nationalists. Obama was used because as a black man, he was insulated from ridicule and critique. Hillary, being a woman, would have enjoyed a certain amount of protection, as well. Oops. Trump won. Even though he is a (shudder) rich guy, he truly loves this country, and is working incessantly, to save it from a leftist coup. Doing pretty good, too.
Honestly, did the same person write both of these posts?
Before 2018, his posts were written in somewhat of persuasive style:
Originally Posted by Jeff_O
Swamp-draining is fine by me but this wasn't that. In a bizarre way, Comey had credibility across the aisle. This was an ego- and emotion-based decision and, IMHO, a big mistake.
When was the last time we had a POTUS turtle up, fume for days, then fire the man investigating him? How'd that turn out?
My belief has been that there's a lot of "there" there in the Russian collusion mess. Might not reach Trump- might be confined to Page, Stone, Manafort, Flynn, or some combo, but I think it happened. I think law enforcement has been doing what they do: methodically building the case. I think this brings all that to a head. Guess we'll see. I kinda hope I'm wrong but I doubt it.
Now, they are combative, confrontational, and vulgar. He never wrote that way before. I don't recognize the same person. Some other sock puppet hack his account, or as Doc suggests mental illness? I don't mind a spirited debate, but really don't want anyone to get dementia....
Originally Posted by Jeff_O
"As has been stated by numerous legal scholars, I have the absolute right to PARDON myself, but why would I do that when I have done nothing wrong?" tweeted Trump. "In the meantime, the never ending Witch Hunt, led by 13 very Angry and Conflicted Democrats (& others) continues into the mid-terms!"
He, and Rudy G, are quite obviously softening the ground here.
However, the joke's on them, because "the ground" in this case consists of his hardcore bases' brains, which are already soft as pudding. The rest of us are just marveling at the Trump/puddin' head shït show.
The lying [bleep] is sooooo guilty. He reeks of it. You'd know this if your head wasn't up your ass. You'd care if you hadn't lost your freaking minds. Err............. puddings.
No doubt he wrote them Hatari, he's been going off the deep end since he fell off that ladder and started using drugs to fix his mental state after it happened. Like a few others, I use to feel bad for the guy getting hit from all sides on here but some of us don't learn nearly as quickly as others. Won't make that mistake again.
It's not destroyed yet but it's crumbling. The demoncraps have ran out of fringe oddities of nature to "champion" for votes.
Those that aren't odd, like decent people of color be it black or brown, and also decent gays not of the activist bent, are drifting away from lieberal lunacy having seen and experienced the left has done nothing for them but brought problems to their doorsteps. They also understand what America was founded to be and they, as well as we, want it to be just that. And it can and hopefully will. There will be a culling of sorts that has to be done, as those foolishly espousing the greatness of socialism and advocating the destruction of the Constitution cannot go unconfronted and debunked and put to shame totally. They must become the pariahs today, that they were in the past because truth does not change but it can and has been stolen.
Our task is easy. Remind those on the left the vileness they embraced, having been tricked by good liars into believing in things like abortion on demand, open borders and sanctuary cities, homosexual legitimacy, unfettered welfare, and big government. They know the left pushed those things as gospel and are just now seeing it was the gospel of Hell. In time, maybe even JeffO will come to his senses about all these lies and leave the darkness for the light. Maybe.
It's not destroyed yet but it's crumbling. The demoncraps have ran out of fringe oddities of nature to "champion" for votes.
Those that aren't odd, like decent people of color be it black or brown, and also decent gays not of the activist bent, are drifting away from lieberal lunacy having seen and experienced the left has done nothing for them but brought problems to their doorsteps. They also understand what America was founded to be and they, as well as we, want it to be just that. And it can and hopefully will. There will be a culling of sorts that has to be done, as those foolishly espousing the greatness of socialism and advocating the destruction of the Constitution cannot go unconfronted and debunked and put to shame totally. They must become the pariahs today, that they were in the past because truth does not change but it can and has been stolen.
Our task is easy. Remind those on the left the vileness they embraced, having been tricked by good liars into believing in things like abortion on demand, open borders and sanctuary cities, homosexual legitimacy, unfettered welfare, and big government. They know the left pushed those things as gospel and are just now seeing it was the gospel of Hell. In time, maybe even JeffO will come to his senses about all these lies and leave the darkness for the light. Maybe.
You lost me with the whole anti-gay thing. I don't care a bit about what consenting adults do behind closed doors as long as I don't have to hear or see it. And I don't want to think about it either so they can stop trying to shove it in my face. I don't care if 2 gay people want to get married. It's just that SCOTUS didn't have the legal right to make it legal, since marriage isn't addressed in any federal laws other than the tax code. Religious fervor doesn't factor into my thought process and should not factor into lawmaking either.
I'm not anti-gay but neither do I believe it has legitimacy that gives it rights for special protection under the law. It sounds like you don't either. Countries that have embraced homosexuality as legitimate cease to be shortly thereafter. I'd like to avoid that. So, while I don't believe we should consider it the same as a hetero family, I understand and accept it will always be with us and treat them with respect as long as they aren't going activist on me or trying to recruit my kids. That would be bad.
I'm not anti-gay but neither do I believe it has legitimacy that gives it rights for special protection under the law. It sounds like you don't either. Countries that have embraced homosexuality as legitimate cease to be shortly thereafter. I'd like to avoid that. So, while I don't believe we should consider it the same as a hetero family, I understand and accept it will always be with us and treat them with respect as long as they aren't going activist on me or trying to recruit my kids. That would be bad.
They are strong arming society into accepting them as "Normal".
But, the reality is, they aren't. They are anything but normal.
The communist democrat party is dead. The democrats endorsed MS-13 and lawlessness. That's all they have as a platform. That and fugck Trump. They're a party lost at sea with no rudder and no radio. They're going to drift into obscurity until they luck into someone who can drive the party back to the center...
I agree, the Democratic party has suffered a rapid-fire series of self-inflicted wounds since the primaries leading up to the 2016 Trump election. And instead of correcting toward center, they've doubled down sharply to the left, which the majority of Americans cannot and will not accept. I expect there will be an even worse bloodbath in November this year than there was in 2016, and the DNC is never going to recover.
I do not think the Democratic Party has any future. They've firmly committed to the communist end of the political spectrum. I would not be surprised to see a new national party rise out of the ashes of the upcoming federal election, though, which will take over the position of the left-of-center moderate party that the Democrats used to be.
I'm not anti-gay but neither do I believe it has legitimacy that gives it rights for special protection under the law. It sounds like you don't either. Countries that have embraced homosexuality as legitimate cease to be shortly thereafter. I'd like to avoid that. So, while I don't believe we should consider it the same as a hetero family, I understand and accept it will always be with us and treat them with respect as long as they aren't going activist on me or trying to recruit my kids. That would be bad.
They are strong arming society into accepting them as "Normal".
But, the reality is, they aren't. They are anything but normal.
Their social welfare system will collapse. Sate pensions will bankrupt the budget. Businesses will leave at an accelerated rate. Calfornia will resemble a Third World country.
Gavin Newsome will become governor and cram Progressism down California's throat. You will accept abortion, you will accept LGBT, you will accept Open Borders, Sanctuary State, Green everything, zero emissions, and high taxes.
Don't see a bright future. [/quote]
Third world country = Lieberal Utopia, as long as they live it in their mind.
Gavin Newsome, the rich white guy of privilege who lives in a mansion and is loved by the dumb masses because he hates rich white guys of privilege who live in mansions.
"We found no evidence that the conclusions by department prosecutors were affected by bias or other improper considerations,” the report said. “Rather, we concluded that they were based on the prosecutor’s assessment of facts, the law, and past department practice.”
Looks like the deep state fix was in doesnt it, Jell0. So, are we surprised you are happy about tyranny having made the US a bananna republic? No. Your bud Putin is also happy to hear it.
So, your bud Comey was evidently lying when he listed the laws Hillary broke with her emails and servers, right?
The communist democrat party is dead. The democrats endorsed MS-13 and lawlessness. That's all they have as a platform. That and fugck Trump. They're a party lost at sea with no rudder and no radio. They're going to drift into obscurity until they luck into someone who can drive the party back to the center...
I agree, the Democratic party has suffered a rapid-fire series of self-inflicted wounds since the primaries leading up to the 2016 Trump election. And instead of correcting toward center, they've doubled down sharply to the left, which the majority of Americans cannot and will not accept. I expect there will be an even worse bloodbath in November this year than there was in 2016, and the DNC is never going to recover.
I do not think the Democratic Party has any future. They've firmly committed to the communist end of the political spectrum. I would not be surprised to see a new national party rise out of the ashes of the upcoming federal election, though, which will take over the position of the left-of-center moderate party that the Democrats used to be.
I hope you are both right, but there is also a growing vacuum on the GOP side. Trump and his supporters don't fit into the GOP as we know it.
The longer this collusion investigation goes on without the slightest hint that Trump colluded with Russia, the more unhinged the left becomes. I am an empathetic kind of guy, and when I view Trump through the eyes of a liberal, I fully understand their rage.
Right out of the gate they were pissed that he hasn't attended a Toxic Masculinity course at a university. Then he set about to laying waste to every person or institution that stood in his way. Seems Meghan Kelly was one of the first to do battle with him. How are her ratings today? Then the entire media went on a crusade against him. Americans trust in the media is now at an all time low. One by one he knocked out his Republican competitors in the primaries. Then he laid waste to the cankled one. The entire FBI went after him and as a result they are now viewed collectively as a laughing stock. It's not like they were accomplishing great things anyway, but now the mask has been removed and they are being seen for what they are. A few Republican senators have decided to wage war with him. Corker and Flake are quitting now rather than face the humiliation of being primaried out. McCain went up against him, and all I can say about that is "bless his heart."
Meuller has been waging war against Trump with his team of Democratic rain makers. Public confidence in Mueller has plummeted and the best his team has tuned up is a decade old business deal that Manafort skirted the law on. Well that and the impressive indictment against a Russian company that didn't exist during the election. Trump has single handedly laid to waste all who would dare to stand in the way of him making the country great again and has managed to in fact Make America Great Again despite all of the distraction and interference. He's been nailing one economic record after another and has kept his promises in a way I cannot recall being done in my lifetime. He freed hostages that had been held in North Korea through the Obama years and is strategically laying the ground work to lessen their nuclear threat.
I didn't vote for Trump. I owe him and all of you an apology. I had read him wrong. He has been singularly fantastic and Comey remains a blithering pussy.
Unless something unexpected happens, Trump is on a path to be one of the best, if not the best conservative leader the country has ever seen, even surpassing Reagan.
The longer this collusion investigation goes on without the slightest hint that Trump colluded with Russia, the more unhinged the left becomes. I am an empathetic kind of guy, and when I view Trump through the eyes of a liberal, I fully understand their rage.
Right out of the gate they were pissed that he hasn't attended a Toxic Masculinity course at a university. Then he set about to laying waste to every person or institution that stood in his way. Seems Meghan Kelly was one of the first to do battle with him. How are her ratings today? Then the entire media went on a crusade against him. Americans trust in the media is now at an all time low. One by one he knocked out his Republican competitors in the primaries. Then he laid waste to the cankled one. The entire FBI went after him and as a result they are now viewed collectively as a laughing stock. It's not like they were accomplishing great things anyway, but now the mask has been removed and they are being seen for what they are. A few Republican senators have decided to wage war with him. Corker and Flake are quitting now rather than face the humiliation of being primaried out. McCain went up against him, and all I can say about that is "bless his heart."
Meuller has been waging war against Trump with his team of Democratic rain makers. Public confidence in Mueller has plummeted and the best his team has tuned up is a decade old business deal that Manafort skirted the law on. Well that and the impressive indictment against a Russian company that didn't exist during the election. Trump has single handedly laid to waste all who would dare to stand in the way of him making the country great again and has managed to in fact Make America Great Again despite all of the distraction and interference. He's been nailing one economic record after another and has kept his promises in a way I cannot recall being done in my lifetime. He freed hostages that had been held in North Korea through the Obama years and is strategically laying the ground work to lessen their nuclear threat.
I didn't vote for Trump. I owe him and all of you an apology. I had read him wrong. He has been singularly fantastic and Comey remains a blithering pussy.
Unless something unexpected happens, Trump is on a path to be one of the best, if not the best conservative leader the country has ever seen, even surpassing Reagan.
Which is tragically hilarious, given that he is basically a New York business democrat. Let's see: likes gays and gay marriage, likes all kinds of foreigners in the US, wants high taxes (but not outlandishly high), wants huge government powers in place, wants to legislate firearms...I could keep going, but it is just sad. Trump is about as conservative as a cross-dressing Hell's Angels key party. It's just that the Overton Window has moved so far left in the last 100 years that no one can now discern actual conservatives from non-conservatives. Hell, if you didn't go to that key party, you are now labeled a right-wing Nazi.
The longer this collusion investigation goes on without the slightest hint that Trump colluded with Russia, the more unhinged the left becomes. I am an empathetic kind of guy, and when I view Trump through the eyes of a liberal, I fully understand their rage.
Right out of the gate they were pissed that he hasn't attended a Toxic Masculinity course at a university. Then he set about to laying waste to every person or institution that stood in his way. Seems Meghan Kelly was one of the first to do battle with him. How are her ratings today? Then the entire media went on a crusade against him. Americans trust in the media is now at an all time low. One by one he knocked out his Republican competitors in the primaries. Then he laid waste to the cankled one. The entire FBI went after him and as a result they are now viewed collectively as a laughing stock. It's not like they were accomplishing great things anyway, but now the mask has been removed and they are being seen for what they are. A few Republican senators have decided to wage war with him. Corker and Flake are quitting now rather than face the humiliation of being primaried out. McCain went up against him, and all I can say about that is "bless his heart."
Meuller has been waging war against Trump with his team of Democratic rain makers. Public confidence in Mueller has plummeted and the best his team has tuned up is a decade old business deal that Manafort skirted the law on. Well that and the impressive indictment against a Russian company that didn't exist during the election. Trump has single handedly laid to waste all who would dare to stand in the way of him making the country great again and has managed to in fact Make America Great Again despite all of the distraction and interference. He's been nailing one economic record after another and has kept his promises in a way I cannot recall being done in my lifetime. He freed hostages that had been held in North Korea through the Obama years and is strategically laying the ground work to lessen their nuclear threat.
I didn't vote for Trump. I owe him and all of you an apology. I had read him wrong. He has been singularly fantastic and Comey remains a blithering pussy.
Unless something unexpected happens, Trump is on a path to be one of the best, if not the best conservative leader the country has ever seen, even surpassing Reagan.
Which is tragically hilarious, given that he is basically a New York business democrat. Let's see: likes gays and gay marriage, likes all kinds of foreigners in the US, wants high taxes (but not outlandishly high), wants huge government powers in place, wants to legislate firearms...I could keep going, but it is just sad. Trump is about as conservative as a cross-dressing Hell's Angels key party. It's just that the Overton Window has moved so far left in the last 100 years that no one can now discern actual conservatives from non-conservatives. Hell, if you didn't go to that key party, you are now labeled a right-wing Nazi.
whatever universe you're in, just go ahead and stay there
"We found no evidence that the conclusions by department prosecutors were affected by bias or other improper considerations,” the report said. “Rather, we concluded that they were based on the prosecutor’s assessment of facts, the law, and past department practice.”
520 pages of what Comey and others did wrong, and this is your take away?
The communist democrat party is dead. The democrats endorsed MS-13 and lawlessness. That's all they have as a platform. That and fugck Trump. They're a party lost at sea with no rudder and no radio. They're going to drift into obscurity until they luck into someone who can drive the party back to the center...
I agree, the Democratic party has suffered a rapid-fire series of self-inflicted wounds since the primaries leading up to the 2016 Trump election. And instead of correcting toward center, they've doubled down sharply to the left, which the majority of Americans cannot and will not accept. I expect there will be an even worse bloodbath in November this year than there was in 2016, and the DNC is never going to recover.
I do not think the Democratic Party has any future. They've firmly committed to the communist end of the political spectrum. I would not be surprised to see a new national party rise out of the ashes of the upcoming federal election, though, which will take over the position of the left-of-center moderate party that the Democrats used to be.
A lot of people out there watching this two layer justice system tyranny are going to move to help Trump in his efforts to drain the swamp after now finding just how deep the schitt runs in our govt.
"We found no evidence that the conclusions by department prosecutors were affected by bias or other improper considerations,” the report said. “Rather, we concluded that they were based on the prosecutor’s assessment of facts, the law, and past department practice.”
520 pages of what Comey and others did wrong, and this is your take away?
One sentence?
He picked the part added by the DOJ, naturally. Life is not good at his end of the pool right now. Tide is going out, and his dreams are stuck high and dry.
The longer this collusion investigation goes on without the slightest hint that Trump colluded with Russia, the more unhinged the left becomes. I am an empathetic kind of guy, and when I view Trump through the eyes of a liberal, I fully understand their rage.
Right out of the gate they were pissed that he hasn't attended a Toxic Masculinity course at a university. Then he set about to laying waste to every person or institution that stood in his way. Seems Meghan Kelly was one of the first to do battle with him. How are her ratings today? Then the entire media went on a crusade against him. Americans trust in the media is now at an all time low. One by one he knocked out his Republican competitors in the primaries. Then he laid waste to the cankled one. The entire FBI went after him and as a result they are now viewed collectively as a laughing stock. It's not like they were accomplishing great things anyway, but now the mask has been removed and they are being seen for what they are. A few Republican senators have decided to wage war with him. Corker and Flake are quitting now rather than face the humiliation of being primaried out. McCain went up against him, and all I can say about that is "bless his heart."
Meuller has been waging war against Trump with his team of Democratic rain makers. Public confidence in Mueller has plummeted and the best his team has tuned up is a decade old business deal that Manafort skirted the law on. Well that and the impressive indictment against a Russian company that didn't exist during the election. Trump has single handedly laid to waste all who would dare to stand in the way of him making the country great again and has managed to in fact Make America Great Again despite all of the distraction and interference. He's been nailing one economic record after another and has kept his promises in a way I cannot recall being done in my lifetime. He freed hostages that had been held in North Korea through the Obama years and is strategically laying the ground work to lessen their nuclear threat.
I didn't vote for Trump. I owe him and all of you an apology. I had read him wrong. He has been singularly fantastic and Comey remains a blithering pussy.
Unless something unexpected happens, Trump is on a path to be one of the best, if not the best conservative leader the country has ever seen, even surpassing Reagan.
He's got to do something about the budget deficit. True conservatives don't spend more money than they take in.
"We found no evidence that the conclusions by department prosecutors were affected by bias or other improper considerations,” the report said. “Rather, we concluded that they were based on the prosecutor’s assessment of facts, the law, and past department practice.”
520 pages of what Comey and others did wrong, and this is your take away?
One sentence?
That is the only thing he could latch onto. 520 pages of scathing rebuke, and that's the only thing he can celebrate. The report didn't find that bias wasn't there. It obviously was. They didn't find that it influenced the investigation. I wonder if they even looked for that. Did Horowitz interview Strzok and page to find out who the "we" was in his text about stopping Trump?
"We found no evidence that the conclusions by department prosecutors were affected by bias or other improper considerations,” the report said. “Rather, we concluded that they were based on the prosecutor’s assessment of facts, the law, and past department practice.”
520 pages of what Comey and others did wrong, and this is your take away?
One sentence?
I believe Jeff was only interested in pointing out a major lie in the report. He knows the IG was a vile obama hold over and that Sessions is a traitor. Right, Jeff?
The longer this collusion investigation goes on without the slightest hint that Trump colluded with Russia, the more unhinged the left becomes. I am an empathetic kind of guy, and when I view Trump through the eyes of a liberal, I fully understand their rage.
Right out of the gate they were pissed that he hasn't attended a Toxic Masculinity course at a university. Then he set about to laying waste to every person or institution that stood in his way. Seems Meghan Kelly was one of the first to do battle with him. How are her ratings today? Then the entire media went on a crusade against him. Americans trust in the media is now at an all time low. One by one he knocked out his Republican competitors in the primaries. Then he laid waste to the cankled one. The entire FBI went after him and as a result they are now viewed collectively as a laughing stock. It's not like they were accomplishing great things anyway, but now the mask has been removed and they are being seen for what they are. A few Republican senators have decided to wage war with him. Corker and Flake are quitting now rather than face the humiliation of being primaried out. McCain went up against him, and all I can say about that is "bless his heart."
Meuller has been waging war against Trump with his team of Democratic rain makers. Public confidence in Mueller has plummeted and the best his team has tuned up is a decade old business deal that Manafort skirted the law on. Well that and the impressive indictment against a Russian company that didn't exist during the election. Trump has single handedly laid to waste all who would dare to stand in the way of him making the country great again and has managed to in fact Make America Great Again despite all of the distraction and interference. He's been nailing one economic record after another and has kept his promises in a way I cannot recall being done in my lifetime. He freed hostages that had been held in North Korea through the Obama years and is strategically laying the ground work to lessen their nuclear threat.
I didn't vote for Trump. I owe him and all of you an apology. I had read him wrong. He has been singularly fantastic and Comey remains a blithering pussy.
Unless something unexpected happens, Trump is on a path to be one of the best, if not the best conservative leader the country has ever seen, even surpassing Reagan.
He's got to do something about the budget deficit. True conservatives don't spend more money than they take in.
My guess is that the tax cuts and stimulation to the economy will more than cover this.
President Donald Trump's primary talking point since the Department of Justice Department released a bombshell report about the Hillary Clinton email investigation was that it freed from from any guilt in the Russia investigation. "I think that the report yesterday, maybe more importantly than anything, it totally exonerates me," Trump told reporters on Friday. "There was no collusion. There was no obstruction. And if you read the report, you'll see that." DOJ officials contested that characterization during a hearing before the Senate Judiciary Committee on Monday. "We did not look into collusion questions," inspector general Michael Horowitz told lawmakers. "We did not address the credibility of the special counsel's investigation here." FBI director Christopher Wray agreed. "I don't think this report speaks to the special counsel investigation," he told the panel.
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But don't let facts stop you from your rationalizations to the contrary.
If Trump knew his campaign was in cahoots with Russian intelligence, WIKI, etc- which they clearly were- then he's guilty of treason and cannot be POTUS. There's NO "alternative facts" scenario to excuse that. It's treason.
President Donald Trump's primary talking point since the Department of Justice Department released a bombshell report about the Hillary Clinton email investigation was that it freed from from any guilt in the Russia investigation. "I think that the report yesterday, maybe more importantly than anything, it totally exonerates me," Trump told reporters on Friday. "There was no collusion. There was no obstruction. And if you read the report, you'll see that." DOJ officials contested that characterization during a hearing before the Senate Judiciary Committee on Monday. "We did not look into collusion questions," inspector general Michael Horowitz told lawmakers. "We did not address the credibility of the special counsel's investigation here." FBI director Christopher Wray agreed. "I don't think this report speaks to the special counsel investigation," he told the panel.
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But don't let facts stop you from your rationalizations to the contrary.
If Trump knew his campaign was in cahoots with Russian intelligence, WIKI, etc- which they clearly were- then he's guilty of treason and cannot be POTUS. There's NO "alternative facts" scenario to excuse that. It's treason.
You need ro keep toking on your Bong ,loser..
How is your lazy ass liking those steel tarriffs? .
President Donald Trump's primary talking point since the Department of Justice Department released a bombshell report about the Hillary Clinton email investigation was that it freed from from any guilt in the Russia investigation. "I think that the report yesterday, maybe more importantly than anything, it totally exonerates me," Trump told reporters on Friday. "There was no collusion. There was no obstruction. And if you read the report, you'll see that." DOJ officials contested that characterization during a hearing before the Senate Judiciary Committee on Monday. "We did not look into collusion questions," inspector general Michael Horowitz told lawmakers. "We did not address the credibility of the special counsel's investigation here." FBI director Christopher Wray agreed. "I don't think this report speaks to the special counsel investigation," he told the panel.
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But don't let facts stop you from your rationalizations to the contrary.
If Trump knew his campaign was in cahoots with Russian intelligence, WIKI, etc- which they clearly were- then he's guilty of treason and cannot be POTUS. There's NO "alternative facts" scenario to excuse that. It's treason.
Fact is the collusion was between the FBI and DNC to seat your biotch Hillary.
Your bong embalmmed brain is too slow to learn Rules for Radicals- Accuse the other side of your own crimes.
My prediction is that Comey and a few others from the FBI will be ultimately indicted through referrals for prosecution from this and other IG reports.
But don't let facts stop you from your rationalizations to the contrary.
If Trump knew his campaign was in cahoots with Russian intelligence, WIKI, etc- which they clearly were- then he's guilty of treason and cannot be POTUS. There's NO "alternative facts" scenario to excuse that. It's treason.
How does this compare to Obama sending pallets of US currency to Iran? Oh, that was OK.
Jeffzero is pathetically trying to spin the facts in order to maintain his fantasy that President Trump was in collusion with Russia. He wasn’t in collusion with anyone BUT the democrats were, HRC and her campaign were and top officials in our government were illegally and unconstitutionally trying to undermine our election, undermine our constitution, disenfranchise 65 million voters and impose THEIR will on this country. The scumbags like Jeff that refuse to acknowledge the truth in their vain attempt to usurp our constitution and usurp our laws so that they retain all the power, power that the founding fathers enumerated to us, those are the real treasonous traitors. From bigshots like Comey, Clapper and Klinton all the way down to the littlest pieces of shlt like Jeffzero and paddler, they should be sent to re-education camps and then hung.
This thread will haunt Jeff Obama for the rest of his life just like this gem.......
Originally Posted by Jeff_O
You guys are comical in your fear of Obama. He's not gonna go after your guns. The Dems have learned their lesson on that one. Face it. We had two bad choices. Obama was the better one, and not by a little bit!
My prediction is that Comey and a few others from the FBI will be ultimately indicted through referrals for prosecution from this and other IG reports.
Will JeffObama go away when that happens?
Sorry, nobody from the FBI will be indicted, fired maybe, but indicted no way.
An indictment would have to come from the DOJ. The same DOJ, that is refusing to hand over documents and the same DOJ that took this FBI “Stop Trump” insurance policy/plan to the next level with the Mueller witch hunt.
The FBI started it and the DOJ is working to finish it, no way the DOJ will indict their partners in crime.
Jeffzero is pathetically trying to spin the facts in order to maintain his fantasy that President Trump was in collusion with Russia. He wasn’t in collusion with anyone BUT the democrats were, HRC and her campaign were and top officials in our government were illegally and unconstitutionally trying to undermine our election, undermine our constitution, disenfranchise 65 million voters and impose THEIR will on this country. The scumbags like Jeff that refuse to acknowledge the truth in their vain attempt to usurp our constitution and usurp our laws so that they retain all the power, power that the founding fathers enumerated to us, those are the real treasonous traitors. From bigshots like Comey, Clapper and Klinton all the way down to the littlest pieces of shlt like Jeffzero and paddler, they should be sent to re-education camps and then hung.
I'm good with that.
Originally Posted by hatari
Originally Posted by Jeff_O
But don't let facts stop you from your rationalizations to the contrary.
If Trump knew his campaign was in cahoots with Russian intelligence, WIKI, etc- which they clearly were- then he's guilty of treason and cannot be POTUS. There's NO "alternative facts" scenario to excuse that. It's treason.
How does this compare to Obama sending pallets of US currency to Iran? Oh, that was OK.
Or Obama giving the Iranians access to our banking system. Thank God the banking transactions Iran tried to complete were blocked by banks who knew they were illegal. And this idiot talks about treason!
I'm just surprised that Rolling Thunder hasn't chimed in a bunch here in defense of his pal JellO.
That's because " Rolling Thunder" and JeffO are the SAME PERSON...
Correct.
It's funny as hell to see days go by with nothing in this thread, then see the obvious idiot answer and then a few minutes later, the sockpuppet comes in to agree.
While this is notable in several ways, I'd like to point out that "several" of the folks getting the screws put to them by Mueller have gone out of their way to empathize that their actions going forward were going to put them on the right side of history, or that their country is their first priority, as Cohen says here.
It's almost like they know of some profoundly UNpatriotic action that they are scrambling to get clear of so as not to be forever remembered in the history books as traitors.
Hahahaha. Youre too stupid to be able to realize what a prosecutor could do to you if he could illegally require your lawyer to turn on you. Shades of a banana republic i would say. Your IQ doesnt allow you to comprehend the out of this world implications.
Jello you fugking idiot. Back away from your bong and try some fresh air. Your to stupid for your own good. Go climb a ladder and roll off like the turd you are.
While this is notable in several ways, I'd like to point out that "several" of the folks getting the screws put to them by Mueller have gone out of their way to empathize that their actions going forward were going to put them on the right side of history, or that their country is their first priority, as Cohen says here.
Cohens first priority is Cohen, is this something unprecedented?
While this is notable in several ways, I'd like to point out that "several" of the folks getting the screws put to them by Mueller have gone out of their way to empathize that their actions going forward were going to put them on the right side of history, or that their country is their first priority, as Cohen says here.
You're still on Mueller? Thew IG took the wind out of this. Not even a blow job will pump it back up now. Done, dead, old news.
Jeff, hes too stupid to understand the implications in court of people being in on the coverup of crimes by one individual and the investigation and prosecution of crimes against her opponent.
He doesnt understand the concept of the illegality of use of information referred to as "fruit of the poison tree". I mean, he listens to cnn. They arent even going to let their starry eyed suckers know there is no crime against collusion.
When we tell him about it he thinks we are lying. We cant know more than cnn, because we are dumbasses who couldnt even learn "Ds good, Rs bad". Besides, you know how much more those geniuses on CNN make more than us?
While this is notable in several ways, I'd like to point out that "several" of the folks getting the screws put to them by Mueller have gone out of their way to empathize that their actions going forward were going to put them on the right side of history, or that their country is their first priority, as Cohen says here.
You're still on Mueller? Thew IG took the wind out of this. Not even a blow job will pump it back up now. Done, dead, old news.
That's kind of sad, this thread is kind of like an old friend at this point. Weeks go by and then you run into each other and it's like you can pickup right where you left off. It's like the first, first time Trump got impeached; like Groundhog's Day.
Ive considered everything about the Comey firing. Two things are obvious.
1. Comey is a lying crook who deserved firing before Trump was elected. However, if Trump had fired him on Jan 21, Rosey would not have inserted himself as a witness and principal in the case.
2. We wouldnt know what a congenital dumbass Jell0 is.
Ive considered everything about the Comey firing. Two things are obvious.
1. Comey is a lying crook who deserved firing before Trump was elected. However, if Trump had fired him on Jan 21, Rosey would not have inserted himself as a witness and principal in the case.
2. We wouldnt know what a congenital dumbass Jell0 is.
There may have been some hints prior. But yeah at this point I'd say the verdict is in. Pretty conclusive. Like it's pretty conclusive the whole Russia probe will never turn up anything of substance.
Lol you guys earlier on this thread, in writing, denying there even was a Russian attack on American democracy.
Lol all your juvenile name-calling at that time. Since I was correct, flip it around. Who's the real idiots? Why, YOU! Bwa ha ha.
Lol how you've become such cartoon cutouts of functional adults that you can't even concede that point. Very impressive, the pass you've given yourselves throughout this whole mess, as over and over and over again, I've been shown to be right, and you wrong. Whatever bitches' brew of politics constitutes the "Right" these days, personal accountability ain't part of it.
And the best is yet to come! And it'll be fairly soon. Prediction: Mueller will drop reports demonstrating the Trump himself knew of this attack at the time, knew it was Russian military/intelligence in origin, was in comms with them through intermediaries, and has lied and covered up and obstructed since.
........ and you'll give him, and by extension yourselves, a pass on that. Golf clap for the alt.snowflake.right.
Lol you guys earlier on this thread, in writing, denying there even was a Russian attack on American democracy.
Lol all your juvenile name-calling at that time. Since I was correct, flip it around. Who's the real idiots? Why, YOU! Bwa ha ha.
Lol how you've become such cartoon cutouts of functional adults that you can't even concede that point. Very impressive, the pass you've given yourselves throughout this whole mess, as over and over and over again, I've been shown to be right, and you wrong. Whatever bitches' brew of politics constitutes the "Right" these days, personal accountability ain't part of it.
And the best is yet to come! And it'll be fairly soon. Prediction: Mueller will drop reports demonstrating the Trump himself knew of this attack at the time, knew it was Russian military/intelligence in origin, was in comms with them through intermediaries, and has lied and covered up and obstructed since.
........ and you'll give him, and by extension yourselves, a pass on that. Golf clap for the alt.snowflake.right.
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No dumbass.
Everyone knows that the Russian scum have always spied on us, and messed with whatever they could. That's not changed since before the Cold War.
But since this breach of security took place on OObama's watch, and only exposed the dirty truth about the DNC, I'll let it slide like OObama did...
Oh yeah... Did you miss the part where Rosey stood up there and said no American Citizen had anything to do with this?
Of course with THAT wording, he could mean that OOBama did.
Lol you guys earlier on this thread, in writing, denying there even was a Russian attack on American democracy.
Lol all your juvenile name-calling at that time. Since I was correct, flip it around. Who's the real idiots? Why, YOU! Bwa ha ha.
Lol how you've become such cartoon cutouts of functional adults that you can't even concede that point. Very impressive, the pass you've given yourselves throughout this whole mess, as over and over and over again, I've been shown to be right, and you wrong. Whatever bitches' brew of politics constitutes the "Right" these days, personal accountability ain't part of it.
And the best is yet to come! And it'll be fairly soon. Prediction: Mueller will drop reports demonstrating the Trump himself knew of this attack at the time, knew it was Russian military/intelligence in origin, was in comms with them through intermediaries, and has lied and covered up and obstructed since.
........ and you'll give him, and by extension yourselves, a pass on that. Golf clap for the alt.snowflake.right.
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Zero knew of the attacks and didnt do anything. He said there was no reason to worry, they couldnt affect anything.
He told Trump to quit whining about it and grow up- until after the election. Then your pos corcksucker did his usual crying and lying.
Now you prove yourself delusional. As I recall, the only thing the Right has professed all along is that most governments try to affect the elections of others, as its proven Zero did in the last Israeli election.
Is your brain so smooth it cant remember that, or as normally with lieberals is it just that you dont give a schatt until it affects you and yours?
Now, please be so kind as to show us the posts of fire guys who said Russia didnt try to interfere in the election. When you fail, please be man enough to admit you are nothing more than a lying POS. Quit trying to put your lying words in our mouths. Quit sucking Zeros prick. Hillbiotch lost. Grow a set and get over it.
And henceforth remember what HE said. "The heart of the wise lies to the right"...
Lol you guys earlier on this thread, in writing, denying there even was a Russian attack on American democracy.
Lol all your juvenile name-calling at that time. Since I was correct, flip it around. Who's the real idiots? Why, YOU! Bwa ha ha.
Lol how you've become such cartoon cutouts of functional adults that you can't even concede that point. Very impressive, the pass you've given yourselves throughout this whole mess, as over and over and over again, I've been shown to be right, and you wrong. Whatever bitches' brew of politics constitutes the "Right" these days, personal accountability ain't part of it.
And the best is yet to come! And it'll be fairly soon. Prediction: Mueller will drop reports demonstrating the Trump himself knew of this attack at the time, knew it was Russian military/intelligence in origin, was in comms with them through intermediaries, and has lied and covered up and obstructed since.
........ and you'll give him, and by extension yourselves, a pass on that. Golf clap for the alt.snowflake.right.
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Zero knew of the attacks and didnt do anything. He said there was no reason to worry, they couldnt affect anything.
He told Trump to quit whining about it and grow up- until after the election. Then your pos corcksucker did his usual crying and lying.
Now you prove yourself delusional. As I recall, the only thing the Right has professed all along is that most governments try to affect the elections of others, as its proven Zero did in the last Israeli election.
Is your brain so smooth it cant remember that, or as normally with lieberals is it just that you dont give a schatt until it affects you and yours?
Now, please be so kind as to show us the posts of fire guys who said Russia didnt try to interfere in the election. When you fail, please be man enough to admit you are nothing more than a lying POS. Quit trying to put your lying words in our mouths. Quit sucking Zeros prick. Hillbiotch lost. Grow a set and get over it.
And henceforth remember what HE said. "The heart of the wise lies to the right"...
Lol you guys earlier on this thread, in writing, denying there even was a Russian attack on American democracy.
Lol all your juvenile name-calling at that time. Since I was correct, flip it around. Who's the real idiots? Why, YOU! Bwa ha ha.
Lol how you've become such cartoon cutouts of functional adults that you can't even concede that point. Very impressive, the pass you've given yourselves throughout this whole mess, as over and over and over again, I've been shown to be right, and you wrong. Whatever bitches' brew of politics constitutes the "Right" these days, personal accountability ain't part of it.
And the best is yet to come! And it'll be fairly soon. Prediction: Mueller will drop reports demonstrating the Trump himself knew of this attack at the time, knew it was Russian military/intelligence in origin, was in comms with them through intermediaries, and has lied and covered up and obstructed since.
........ and you'll give him, and by extension yourselves, a pass on that. Golf clap for the alt.snowflake.right.
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Full meltdown mode............laffin’
I suppose he’s still suffering from the trauma of getting lost on five acres.
Yeah......I’ll listen to political commentary from “that guy”. BTW, didn’t Jeff assure us that there were imminent ramifications coming a year or so ago?
Its unreal. He has a mental problem and his brain doesnt register anything we say. Hes like a freaking zombie. Because we support Trump and MAGA jell0 thinks everything we say to him is a lie. He has not even contemplated the possibility we arent schitting him. His 4th grade teacher told him the truth and Hatari and all the rest of us are feeding him a line of schiett.
He didnt even hear Rosey say no Americans were involved and their efforts didnt affect the election. Nothing registers on his brain that disagrees with his "feeling" .
Its unreal. We have watched a person mentally deconstruct on the Fire in front of our very eyes.
Want to bet me a box of bullets that before the midterms in 2018, it'll be shown that campaign members were in collusion with Russia?
Define "collusion" and I'll give you 5:1 odds on that bet. If I win, you give me one box and if I lose I'll give you five
Well, you don't qualify as a reasonable man in my book, but we could still do this.
We'd need to really nail things down to avoid potential conflict later.
Here's a few definitions of collusion. First, from Wiki:
Collusion is an agreement between two or more parties, sometimes illegal and therefore secretive, to limit open competition by deceiving, misleading, or defrauding others of their legal rights, or to obtain an objective forbidden by law typically by defrauding or gaining an unfair market advantage.
Here's what is top-of-page with a Google search:
secret or illegal cooperation or conspiracy, especially in order to cheat or deceive others
Here's Webster:
secret agreement or cooperation especially for an illegal or deceitful purpose
Do you see any problems or confusion there? If so let's air that out now.
More to the point is defining a) who was "a member of his campaign" and b) what it means that they are shown to have been in collusion.
For the former, I propose ANYONE who ever had any titular acknowledgement by the campaign, however briefly, or was paid or otherwise compensated by the campaign; or was hired by the campaign; including but not limited to "advisor". Page, Stone, Manafort, Flynn are explicitly included.
For the latter I'd propose that definitive public statements by the intelligence services and/or AG office shall suffice. Of course, any convictions will too. Further, being granted immunity doesn't negate their guilt for our purposes, nor does a presidential pardon.
Tell me if this works for you.
Midterms are almost here, have you been saving your pennies? you could sell a little of that pot you grow to pay for them as well.
Lol you guys earlier on this thread, in writing, denying there even was a Russian attack on American democracy.
Lol all your juvenile name-calling at that time. Since I was correct, flip it around. Who's the real idiots? Why, YOU! Bwa ha ha.
Lol how you've become such cartoon cutouts of functional adults that you can't even concede that point. Very impressive, the pass you've given yourselves throughout this whole mess, as over and over and over again, I've been shown to be right, and you wrong. Whatever bitches' brew of politics constitutes the "Right" these days, personal accountability ain't part of it.
And the best is yet to come! And it'll be fairly soon. Prediction: Mueller will drop reports demonstrating the Trump himself knew of this attack at the time, knew it was Russian military/intelligence in origin, was in comms with them through intermediaries, and has lied and covered up and obstructed since.
........ and you'll give him, and by extension yourselves, a pass on that. Golf clap for the alt.snowflake.right.
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Full meltdown mode............laffin’
I suppose he’s still suffering from the trauma of getting lost on five acres.
Yeah......I’ll listen to political commentary from “that guy”. BTW, didn’t Jeff assure us that there were imminent ramifications coming a year or so ago?
He also told us that he was no good at this political stuff and would quit posting about said subject............He really doesn't mean what he says.
Lol you guys earlier on this thread, in writing, denying there even was a Russian attack on American democracy.
Lol all your juvenile name-calling at that time. Since I was correct, flip it around. Who's the real idiots? Why, YOU! Bwa ha ha.
Lol how you've become such cartoon cutouts of functional adults that you can't even concede that point. Very impressive, the pass you've given yourselves throughout this whole mess, as over and over and over again, I've been shown to be right, and you wrong. Whatever bitches' brew of politics constitutes the "Right" these days, personal accountability ain't part of it.
And the best is yet to come! And it'll be fairly soon. Prediction: Mueller will drop reports demonstrating the Trump himself knew of this attack at the time, knew it was Russian military/intelligence in origin, was in comms with them through intermediaries, and has lied and covered up and obstructed since.
........ and you'll give him, and by extension yourselves, a pass on that. Golf clap for the alt.snowflake.right.
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Zero knew of the attacks and didnt do anything. He said there was no reason to worry, they couldnt affect anything.
He told Trump to quit whining about it and grow up- until after the election. Then your pos corcksucker did his usual crying and lying.
Now you prove yourself delusional. As I recall, the only thing the Right has professed all along is that most governments try to affect the elections of others, as its proven Zero did in the last Israeli election.
Is your brain so smooth it cant remember that, or as normally with lieberals is it just that you dont give a schatt until it affects you and yours?
Now, please be so kind as to show us the posts of fire guys who said Russia didnt try to interfere in the election. When you fail, please be man enough to admit you are nothing more than a lying POS. Quit trying to put your lying words in our mouths. Quit sucking Zeros prick. Hillbiotch lost. Grow a set and get over it.
And henceforth remember what HE said. "The heart of the wise lies to the right"...
I bet ol jeffo is salivating to get obumbles schlong in his mouth.
I aint lying, Paul. What hes afflicted with is the reason 50% of the country voted for a pos commie. They are blinded by a bad case of the dumbass. Its why Afreaka is in the shape its in.
....... and today the big pussy tries to weasel out of what he CLEARLY said, and clearly meant.
What a cowardly, lying sack of America-hating SCUM. At least with FOX and Gingrich etc turning on him the alt.sheeple might actually turn on their [bleep] brains. This has been an absolutely pathetic little display of mindless indoctrination that y'all have willingly participated in. Good job, sheeple.
....... and today the big pussy tries to weasel out of what he CLEARLY said, and clearly meant.
What a cowardly, lying sack of America-hating SCUM. At least with FOX and Gingrich etc turning on him the alt.sheeple might actually turn on their [bleep] brains. This has been an absolutely pathetic little display of mindless indoctrination that y'all have willingly participated in. Good job, sheeple.
Jello you’re calling President Trump a pussy? You who falls off ladders and claims PTSD? You are one sorry excuse for a man. But hey we already knew that. What sack of crap you are.
If any of you still think Putin doesn't own Trump's lying ass after that display of cowardly self-pissing that Trump put on.......
PS- you're starting to see it because your handlers are starting to tell you to.... it's the beginning of the end.
Hahahaha.
I guess you miseed that about Hillary getting $400 million from Russia she didnt declare. How much did the Trump campaign get from Russia.
I also guess you missed where Rosey said there were no Americans connected to the Russian spys. Then Mueller turned the case over to counterintelligence who does NO PROSECUTIONS. IOW, Mueller sent the findings to die.These were the same group of Russians Mueller charged before plus a couple more. This time he charged them with espionage so he would not have to show his evidence against them. He dropped previous charges as he didnt want to go through discovery with tge foreign groups lowyers when they surprised him by wanting to return to the US and fight the charges. He had mistakenly assumed they would stay in Russia and he would not have to prepare for dealing with them in US court.
The lowlife scum figured he could change the charges to espionage and be able to avoid dealing with them. He has effectively dropped the case against those he charged before the ink was dry. What a great guy. Your kind of hero, huh, Jell0?
....... and today the big pussy tries to weasel out of what he CLEARLY said, and clearly meant.
What a cowardly, lying sack of America-hating SCUM I am. At least with FOX and Gingrich etc turning on him the alt.sheeple might actually turn on their [bleep] brains. This has been an absolutely pathetic little display of mindless indoctrination that y'all have willingly participated in. Good job, sheeple.
I guess he hates America because he didnt give little Kim a few billion to build nuclear weapons and ICBMs the way Slick Willey did and the way Zero flew $150 billion to Iran to help them pay Putin to help them set up their nuclear weapons program. Darn, with Zeros treay with Iran i guess he forgot to include restrictions against them making missiles to deliver them. Yeah, what a man. They promised not to blow us to smithereens for ten years. Well great. We got 5 more to go. What foresite, huh?
What's good about Trump baring his ass like that was that it forces even the conspiracy-addled partisan dumbphucks -- and by that I mean YOU-- to begin to realize that yes, there's something weird going on.
You'll deny that, but we both know you're lying.
Trump engaged with Russia to hack the election. He's clearly owned. Even you numbnuts are realizing it. He's in the process of getting caught. And the egotistical son of a bitch will burn it all down- or try to- rather than go down in history as one of the great traitors of all time. The only real question left here is how many retards he takes down with him. Based on this forum, it'll be more than a few.
And I'll be laffin'. Hell, given I've already been soooo right while you've been soooo wrong I'm already chuckling every time I toss a few brain cells towards thinking of you [bleep]. Thanks for that fellas.
The cognitive dissonance displayed by liberal faqs is astonishing. They really have become so unhinged and a threat to freedom everywhere. What they think they know and what the truth is is so at odds with reality that I truly believe that liberalism IS a mental disorder and one that’s so serious that it should preclude them from owning firearms, voting or anything else that requires thought or responsibility. Liberals have become so pathetic and polarizing that “moderate” liberals are jumping ship, they don’t want anything to do with the anti-American, fascist pieces ofshit which will only hurt them (democraps) in the next election cycle. The next ass whooping they receive in the voting booth will push them and their agenda to the brink of destruction. President Trump winning handily in 2020 will be the coup-de-grace for them.....I think it’s going to get worse for them before it gets better for us. It’s going to be fun watching our President right the ship that the one worlders have been looting and scuttling for decades. It’ll be painful for them and I hope it hurts like hell.
I really wish they’d declare war so that the herd could be legally culled....
What's good about Trump baring his ass like that was that it forces even the conspiracy-addled partisan dumbphucks -- and by that I mean YOU-- to begin to realize that yes, there's something weird going on.
You'll deny that, but we both know you're lying.
Trump engaged with Russia to hack the election. He's clearly owned. Even you numbnuts are realizing it. He's in the process of getting caught. And the egotistical son of a bitch will burn it all down- or try to- rather than go down in history as one of the great traitors of all time. The only real question left here is how many retards he takes down with him. Based on this forum, it'll be more than a few.
And I'll be laffin'. Hell, given I've already been soooo right while you've been soooo wrong I'm already chuckling every time I toss a few brain cells towards thinking of you [bleep]. Thanks for that fellas.
You've never been right about anything, Jeff, and being consistent, you still aren't right about anything.
If your plan is to make yourself a foolish laughing stock, you might not still be right, but you would and will be successful.
Said more succinctly, as the kids would put it: you are now "woke". There is no un-woke. You won't admit it since many of the thread-meisters present here are (no offense) lying sacks of SHÏT.....and I see a couple LSOS's lying about me right up above.... . but woke, you are.
Said more succinctly, as the kids would put it: you are now "woke". There is no un-woke. You won't admit it since many of the thread-meisters present here are (no offense) lying sacks of SHÏT.....and I see a couple LSOS's lying about me right up above.... . but woke, you are.
You know the only reason you keep coming back, time after time, after having your ass handed to you by your betters.... is that you REALLY like being dominated by real men.
....... and today the big pussy tries to weasel out of what he CLEARLY said, and clearly meant.
What a cowardly, lying sack of America-hating SCUM. At least with FOX and Gingrich etc turning on him the alt.sheeple might actually turn on their [bleep] brains. This has been an absolutely pathetic little display of mindless indoctrination that y'all have willingly participated in. Good job, sheeple.
What's good about Trump baring his ass like that was that it forces even the conspiracy-addled partisan dumbphucks -- and by that I mean YOU-- to begin to realize that yes, there's something weird going on.
You'll deny that, but we both know you're lying.
Trump engaged with Russia to hack the election. He's clearly owned. Even you numbnuts are realizing it. He's in the process of getting caught. And the egotistical son of a bitch will burn it all down- or try to- rather than go down in history as one of the great traitors of all time. The only real question left here is how many retards he takes down with him. Based on this forum, it'll be more than a few.
And I'll be laffin'. Hell, given I've already been soooo right while you've been soooo wrong I'm already chuckling every time I toss a few brain cells towards thinking of you [bleep]. Thanks for that fellas.
This is what winning looks like and we are winning everyday.
Jeff seriously. You should have Piddler look at your Mangina. You seem a little more irrational than usual. Is it that time of the month or did you see a ladder?
WOW! Ive a feeling Trump has been sitting on the Democrat demise since day one. Going to be MEGA when he exposes the Democrats before the midterms. Thats why they are melting down, they know its coming.
Pretty funny hearing Rudy G. float the "collusion isn't a crime!" trial balloon.
A few things.
First, whether that exact term has a criminal statute attached to it or not, what collusion with an adversary to hork an election IS, is treasonous, despicable, utterly selfish, and profoundly un-American.
Second, there are plenty of crimes associated with collusion anyway. Trust me on this. There will be no shortage of actual crimes committed here.
Third, it's just the final stage of Trump's pathetic slo-motion walkback of basically everything he's said lied about with respect to his campaign and Russia. What a [bleep] clown show. And now, his last gasp is that it's not a crime, you see! I mean, he didn't PAY those mean hackers (bet he did). He just.... just.... worked with them to subvert the democratic process at the core of what makes America exceptional. That's all!
And finally, a crime isn't necessary to impeach anyway. Which is where this is headed.
And finally, a crime isn't necessary to impeach anyway. Which is where this is headed.
Dumbass.
Article I § 2 of the United States Constitution gives the House of Representatives the sole power to impeach (make formal charges against) and Article I § 3 gives the Senate the sole power to try impeachments. Article II § 4 of the Constitution provides as follows:
"The President, Vice President and all civil officers of the United States, shall be removed from office on impeachment for, and conviction of, treason, bribery, or other high crimes and misdemeanors."
Pretty funny hearing Rudy G. float the "collusion isn't a crime!" trial balloon.
A few things.
First, whether that exact term has a criminal statute attached to it or not, what collusion with an adversary to hork an election IS, is treasonous, despicable, utterly selfish, and profoundly un-American.
Second, there are plenty of crimes associated with collusion anyway. Trust me on this. There will be no shortage of actual crimes committed here.
Third, it's just the final stage of Trump's pathetic slo-motion walkback of basically everything he's said lied about with respect to his campaign and Russia. What a [bleep] clown show. And now, his last gasp is that it's not a crime, you see! I mean, he didn't PAY those mean hackers (bet he did). He just.... just.... worked with them to subvert the democratic process at the core of what makes America exceptional. That's all!
And finally, a crime isn't necessary to impeach anyway. Which is where this is headed.
Man, did you guys get PLAYED. Suckers.
"Trust me on this"
Everyone has the right to be a dipszchit but it's high time you quit abusing the privilege.
"Collusion is not a crime, but that doesn't matter because there was No Collusion (except by Crooked Hillary and the Democrats)!"
Your guy is freaking out. Wonder why? Can't think of one reason. A true mystery.
Let's parse this.
"Collusion is not a crime" - no, but conspiracy is, and there are a number of relevant statutes, dumb ass.
"But that doesn't matter" - correct, but not how your dumb ass meant it. See above.
"Because there was No Collusion" - then why are you and your lawyer (sic) suddenly preparing this ground, hmmm?
"(except by Crooked Hillary and the Democrats)"! - but Hillary! Look at her! Well, what is the reason I'm supposed to look at her? Because she colluded and that's bad? Uh.... (taps Trumps forehead).... is this thing on?!
Somebody on Trump's team is a dirty mofo, statistically speaking it's beyond probability that someone isn't getting an orange jumpsuit to wear...many of these guys are long time crooks, time has caught up to them.
Somebody on Trump's team is a dirty mofo, statistically speaking it's beyond probability that someone isn't getting an orange jumpsuit to wear...many of these guys are long time crooks, time has caught up to them.
Maybe.
But if we lined up Hillar's election team and Trump's election team, and weighed the criminal corruption, Hillary's would sink an aircraft carrier, and Trumps would still float a lifeboat.
I think you are Jeffo's sockpuppet.
As I have said in the past, you seem to take the liberal side of things.
Somebody on Trump's team is a dirty mofo, statistically speaking it's beyond probability that someone isn't getting an orange jumpsuit to wear...many of these guys are long time crooks, time has caught up to them.
Maybe.
But if we lined up Hillar's election team and Trump's election team, and weighed the criminal corruption, Hillary's would sink an aircraft carrier, and Trumps would still float a lifeboat.
I think you are Jeffo's sockpuppet.
As I have said in the past, you seem to take the liberal side of things.
Lock them ALL up !!! Hillary, Bill, Comey, I don't give a chiit. Anyone thick enough to believe a Republican or a conservative can't be a crook is delusional...or batchiit crazy. Party affiliation doesn't dictate integrity, Manafort/Gates/Flynn are crooks not patriots...sorry.
I live in SW Pennsylvania(zone 2B), JeffO lives in Oregon...I'm nobody's sockpuppet. First I was some guy named Walt, then Flave when he was on vacation, now I'm JeffO...tff...I've actually exchanged PM's with Jeff a number of times, discussing rifles/calibers/hunting etc...so unless I'm PM'ing myself for conversation sake, we're 2 different beasts.
Because I think for myself instead of mob mentality influencing my opinion, certainly doesn't make me liberal...we probably agree on 95% of the topics, I just voice mine differently. You keep following me around picking a fight, maybe you'll sway my opinion....not
"Collusion is not a crime, but that doesn't matter because there was No Collusion (except by Crooked Hillary and the Democrats)!"
Your guy is freaking out. Wonder why? Can't think of one reason. A true mystery.
Let's parse this.
"Collusion is not a crime" - no, but conspiracy is, and there are a number of relevant statutes, dumb ass.
"But that doesn't matter" - correct, but not how your dumb ass meant it. See above.
"Because there was No Collusion" - then why are you and your lawyer (sic) suddenly preparing this ground, hmmm?
"(except by Crooked Hillary and the Democrats)"! - but Hillary! Look at her! Well, what is the reason I'm supposed to look at her? Because she colluded and that's bad? Uh.... (taps Trumps forehead).... is this thing on?!
You'd better start buying Ketchup by the case, I understand it makes crow taste better.
Somebody on Trump's team is a dirty mofo, statistically speaking it's beyond probability that someone isn't getting an orange jumpsuit to wear...many of these guys are long time crooks, time has caught up to them.
Maybe.
But if we lined up Hillar's election team and Trump's election team, and weighed the criminal corruption, Hillary's would sink an aircraft carrier, and Trumps would still float a lifeboat.
I think you are Jeffo's sockpuppet.
As I have said in the past, you seem to take the liberal side of things.
Lock them ALL up !!! Hillary, Bill, Comey, I don't give a chiit. Anyone thick enough to believe a Republican or a conservative can't be a crook is delusional...or batchiit crazy. Party affiliation doesn't dictate integrity, Manafort/Gates/Flynn are crooks not patriots...sorry.
I live in SW Pennsylvania(zone 2B), JeffO lives in Oregon...I'm nobody's sockpuppet. First I was some guy named Walt, then Flave when he was on vacation, now I'm JeffO...tff...I've actually exchanged PM's with Jeff a number of times, discussing rifles/calibers/hunting etc...so unless I'm PM'ing myself for conversation sake, we're 2 different beasts.
Because I think for myself instead of mob mentality influencing my opinion, certainly doesn't make me liberal...we probably agree on 95% of the topics, I just voice mine differently. You keep following me around picking a fight, maybe you'll sway my opinion....not
Rockinbar ? Once again you throw out insults then walk away ?,,,I think you're Sharp_things sockpuppet
Somebody on Trump's team is a dirty mofo, statistically speaking it's beyond probability that someone isn't getting an orange jumpsuit to wear...many of these guys are long time crooks, time has caught up to them.
Maybe.
But if we lined up Hillar's election team and Trump's election team, and weighed the criminal corruption, Hillary's would sink an aircraft carrier, and Trumps would still float a lifeboat.
I think you are Jeffo's sockpuppet.
As I have said in the past, you seem to take the liberal side of things.
Lock them ALL up !!! Hillary, Bill, Comey, I don't give a chiit. Anyone thick enough to believe a Republican or a conservative can't be a crook is delusional...or batchiit crazy. Party affiliation doesn't dictate integrity, Manafort/Gates/Flynn are crooks not patriots...sorry.
I live in SW Pennsylvania(zone 2B), JeffO lives in Oregon...I'm nobody's sockpuppet. First I was some guy named Walt, then Flave when he was on vacation, now I'm JeffO...tff...I've actually exchanged PM's with Jeff a number of times, discussing rifles/calibers/hunting etc...so unless I'm PM'ing myself for conversation sake, we're 2 different beasts.
Because I think for myself instead of mob mentality influencing my opinion, certainly doesn't make me liberal...we probably agree on 95% of the topics, I just voice mine differently. You keep following me around picking a fight, maybe you'll sway my opinion....not
Rockinbar ? Once again you throw out insults then walk away ?,,,I think you're Sharp_things sockpuppet
Didn't try to start a fight with you.
Just wondering why you always seem to think the Trump campaign was SO crooked and evil, when the most criminal bitch in modern history had entire books of evidence against her, and the entire Trump/Russia/Collusion thing has not provided even ONE PAGE of evidence to indicate Trump did anything illegal at all.
You seem pretty one sided on that. Time and again you opine that Trump folks are going to jail... When we all Know where the real wrongdoing and coverups occurred.
But keep telling us how independent your thinking is, and how you harbor no prejudices.
Just wondering why you always seem to think the Trump campaign was SO crooked and evil, when the most criminal bitch in modern history had entire books of evidence against her, and the entire Trump/Russia/Collusion thing has not provided even ONE PAGE of evidence to indicate Trump did anything illegal at all.
You seem pretty one sided on that. Time and again you opine that Trump folks are going to jail... When we all Know where the real wrongdoing and coverups occurred.
But keep telling us how independent your thinking is, and how you harbor no prejudices.
I'll say without fear of contradiction that I'm prejudice, against most very very wealthy people with reputations for crooked business practices....no matter their name or party affiliation. I'm sick of dirty pool, sick of the swamp, fed up with a Congress that collects checks and does nothing, disgusted with a twisted media on both sides, etc...
When I first joined here, I remember you stating something like "what happened to the Fire, we used to be like minded conservative sportsman ?"....basically I agree, while understanding that some fine points of opinion may differ. But we can't afford to throw people out that don't agree with 100% of our viewpoint, we need the numbers to have power...alienating and ostracizing members for differences is self defeating, sometimes we have to "agree to disagree".
Obviously there are guys here with a liberal/troll agenda, they stick out like a sore thumb. But casting anyone into that pool because of differences is unfair, there are age and geographic barriers that change the dynamics of opinion.
We don't have to agree, you don't have to like me...it's not going to effect my life. Say what you will, I rarely attack or call people names because of differences in opinion or viewpoint.
Somebody on Trump's team is a dirty mofo, statistically speaking it's beyond probability that someone isn't getting an orange jumpsuit to wear...many of these guys are long time crooks, time has caught up to them.
Somebody on Trump's team is a dirty mofo, statistically speaking it's beyond probability that someone isn't getting an orange jumpsuit to wear...many of these guys are long time crooks, time has caught up to them.
So hang Trump, right?
How about "All fall short.....".
How about "See if he is for or against me...."
He says "Somebody on Trump's team is a dirty mofo..."
But doesn't say who. Or how.
In contrast... Everfuggenbody on the Hillary campaign was a dirty mofo.
Somebody on Trump's team is a dirty mofo, statistically speaking it's beyond probability that someone isn't getting an orange jumpsuit to wear...many of these guys are long time crooks, time has caught up to them.
So hang Trump, right?
How about "All fall short.....".
How about "See if he is for or against me...."
He says "Somebody on Trump's team is a dirty mofo..."
But doesn't say who. Or how.
In contrast... Everfuggenbody on the Hillary campaign was a dirty mofo.
Geezuz guys, I've said lock them ALL up !!!! Hillary, Bill, Rice, Comey...I don't care, all crooks go to jail,,,you disagree with that ?, fine call me a commie
I said Trump's TEAM, I never said Donald J. Trump...I won't bother to explain why I don't think he's guilty, but his "boys" are dirty as fugg. You think Manafort is a respectable businessman ?, you think Flynn didn't take payoffs from a foreign country ?, you think Don Jr. wasn't trying to impress Dad to pass Ivanka on the "favorite" list ?...come on man. Family businesses have more politics and back stabbing taking place than the Gambino family, and the Trump empire is no different.
Someone is going to jail, someone deserves to, I'll wait to see the evidence and decide if it's justified...I won't wait for the Fire or Q to tell me if I'm right.
Edit: Sorry I forgot to add Kushner to the "he's fugged" list, he's dirty no doubt.
Tell us how Trump Jr is going to jail, what did he do exactly to warrant being thrown in jail? As far as I know, he hasn't been been indicted or had any charges brought on him.
Tell us how Trump Jr is going to jail, what did he do exactly to warrant being thrown in jail? As far as I know, he hasn't been been indicted or had any charges brought on him.
I don't have the answers, nor seen the proof...never claimed to. But when the facts are released, unbiased decisions can be made. Jr. disappearing along with Jared isn't a coincidence, the fuse is burning and they know it's going to hit the fan.
People are running from Hope Hicks to Don Jr, can't believe that's a coincidence...there are NO coincidences in law enforcement.
"This was a meeting to get information on an opponent, totally legal and done all the time in politics — and it went nowhere,”
Welp..... actually, dumbphück, presidential candidates do NOT knowingly meet with Russian Intelligence agents. Full stop.
But that's not the truly wack thing about this tweet. In it, he directly contradicts.... wait for it.... himself! And if the initial statement he dictated ("it was about adoption") isn't now clearly shown BY TRUMP HIMSELF to be an attempt at obstruction then I don't know what it takes.
Gotta give him points for pure audacity, but his seeming belief that he can just talk his way out of anything, any lie, even when PROVING HIMSELF A LIAR WITH HIS OWN WORDS, is off the charts. It's almost like the man believes his supporters are a buncha retar........ oh, wait a minute. Forgot who I was dealing with here.
So jeff o shows up on this thread and the 2018 fitness thread on the backpacking forum Under his real user name. But plays games with his sock puppets on other threads, which is common knowledge to most on here.
Fugging strange.......
Here is a clip that shows what a typical democrat/ liberal voter represents as a whole across the nation.
Here is a clip showing Democrat liberal socialist using ladders.
"This was a meeting to get information on an opponent, totally legal and done all the time in politics — and it went nowhere,”
Welp..... actually, dumbphück, presidential candidates do NOT knowingly meet with Russian Intelligence agents. Full stop.
But that's not the truly wack thing about this tweet. In it, he directly contradicts.... wait for it.... himself! And if the initial statement he dictated ("it was about adoption") isn't now clearly shown BY TRUMP HIMSELF to be an attempt at obstruction then I don't know what it takes.
Gotta give him points for pure audacity, but his seeming belief that he can just talk his way out of anything, any lie, even when PROVING HIMSELF A LIAR WITH HIS OWN WORDS, is off the charts. It's almost like the man believes his supporters are a buncha retar........ oh, wait a minute. Forgot who I was dealing with here.
Carry on.
I have to be honest............I’m enjoying watching the gradual mental meltdown.
I'm betting the boys at the local fire department would be willing to lend a really tall ladder truck when Jello decides to end it. Probably somewhere around November 11, 2020. Or the morning after the midterms this year. Let's pitch in for some rope. Psychiatrists are actually now diagnosing people with TAD- Trump Anxiety disorder (better known as TDS). So yeah, it's a real thing and I hope the PTSD is too much for all of them.
I'm betting the boys at the local fire department would be willing to lend a really tall ladder truck when Jello decides to end it. Probably somewhere around November 11, 2020. Or the morning after the midterms this year. Let's pitch in for some rope. Psychiatrists are actually now diagnosing people with TAD- Trump Anxiety disorder (better known as TDS). So yeah, it's a real thing and I hope the PTSD is too much for all of them.
No, I'm not kidding about TAD - real thing now.
Who'd have thought that Trump would be such a boon to the psychiatric business. They ought to be sending royalties to Trump
Obviously there are guys here with a liberal/troll agenda, they stick out like a sore thumb. But casting anyone into that pool because of differences is unfair, there are age and geographic barriers that change the dynamics of opinion.
If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck......
Obviously there are guys here with a liberal/troll agenda, they stick out like a sore thumb. But casting anyone into that pool because of differences is unfair, there are age and geographic barriers that change the dynamics of opinion.
If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck......
Lol.
Age and geographic barriers can change the dynamics of opinion!
Unfair to judge!!
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Bwana has been a Trump concern troll here from the git.
I have to be honest............I’m enjoying watching the gradual mental meltdown.
It is definitely "Entertaining".
yes it is entertaining watching you guys get your panties in knots. There can be no doubt, JO is in your heads and there isn't anything any of you can do about it.
Obviously there are guys here with a liberal/troll agenda, they stick out like a sore thumb. But casting anyone into that pool because of differences is unfair, there are age and geographic barriers that change the dynamics of opinion.
If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck......
Lol.
Age and geographic barriers can change the dynamics of opinion!
Unfair to judge!!
If you think a 25 year old Republican from Minnesota has the EXACT opinions on ALL subjects, as an 80 year old Republican from Texas...you'd be wrong, hell 30% of people today don't believe in Jesus.
Obviously there are guys here with a liberal/troll agenda, they stick out like a sore thumb. But casting anyone into that pool because of differences is unfair, there are age and geographic barriers that change the dynamics of opinion.
If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck......
Lol.
Age and geographic barriers can change the dynamics of opinion!
Unfair to judge!!
If you think a 25 year old Republican from Minnesota has the EXACT opinions on ALL subjects, as an 80 year old Republican from Texas...you'd be wrong, hell 30% of people today don't believe in Jesus.
Thanks for the bump but you're right about this bizzaro alternate universe scenario that is playing out. Yet, JeffO clings to "Trump is the one dirty and will need to go". Figure that??
Thanks for the bump but you're right about this bizzaro alternate universe scenario that is playing out. Yet, JeffO clings to "Trump is the one dirty and will need to go". Figure that??
i'm pretty certain that concussion he got a few years ago fundamentally changed his brain function/chemistry. He went from overconfident clueless fool, to a full blown liberal dysfunction syndrome. Just imagine poor Jeff stuck inside his head.
Is there anybody in there.... Just nod if you can hear me....
Thanks for the bump but you're right about this bizzaro alternate universe scenario that is playing out. Yet, JeffO clings to "Trump is the one dirty and will need to go". Figure that??
How's Mueller working out for them......Wasn't he the "get trump out of office" card.
Thanks for the bump but you're right about this bizzaro alternate universe scenario that is playing out. Yet, JeffO clings to "Trump is the one dirty and will need to go". Figure that??
How's Mueller working out for them......Wasn't he the "get trump out of office" card.
LMAO......."Soon"
You are just so damned adorable when you're panicking. I could give you a kiss you're so cute!
Thanks for the bump but you're right about this bizzaro alternate universe scenario that is playing out. Yet, JeffO clings to "Trump is the one dirty and will need to go". Figure that??
How's Mueller working out for them......Wasn't he the "get trump out of office" card.
LMAO......."Soon"
You are just so damned adorable when you're panicking. I could give you a kiss you're so cute!
It hasnt been about impeaching Trump, much. Thats only the rhetoric.
Its been a legitimate coordinated effort to destroy his credibility across the broad spectrum of voters who flipped for him.
Women, hes a mysoginist, look at the way he treats women, gonna go after planned parenthood and seek out people to repeal woe vs rade
Blacks, hes racist dividing the country, hates blacks; hes a supremacist, sided with the Charlotteville folks; wants to make America White again.
Gays/Trans - minimizes Obamas agenda to legitimize our lifestyle, not interfering with the States who want to choose their own bathroom rules ("commitment to chaos" technique from the Left)
What?! Nothing from the Asians? Cmon, hes gotta be doing something to agitate or honk off the Asians?? where you at mainstream news? Give us some bad Asian press!! Didnt Trump say hed drop another bomb on Japan in a heartbeat if his sushi was bad from the gas n go?? I think he diiiiiid!!!
If any of this group is smart enough, theyll see it for what it is, and revote for him to shove it up the Lefts butt come 2020.
Their chaos is way more wicked than us educating people a few at a time.
More Trump lies exposed today by deep confidants under oath in courtrooms.
Dude's gonna asplode. Bwa ha ha. Imagine when Jr. gets indicted.
#Soon
#Agin.
Paul, its amazing to me that with a few families running all the news agencies some suckers are too stupid to wonder how they all have their people saying the same lines in their slander of Trump.
Of course, to think those nwo groups have our best national interest at heart is beyond insane. But, they have been fed the same line over and over again which precludes intellectual, objective consideration or contemplation. They just swallow the kool-aid.
What Mr. T defines (over and over, shuddup already) as a "very good man" is telling, isn't it? Manafort is a convicted felon who perpetrated massive fraud and tax evasion schemes- I.E., stealing from, wait for it, every tax-paying American citizen which sure as hell includes ME..... while working as an unregistered agent for a foreign government. Yeah, just a real peach of a guy.
"Drain the swamp" my hairy white butt.
Anyway, it's just a sideshow. You guys know, because I've said it all along, right here, in writing, archived, that in no way do I personally support an IP going after POTUS for just "whatever". So for example, though it's gonna fück Trump in the ass that he ordered Cohen to commit crimes on his behalf, I'm not personally pleased with any of that aspect of this.
What I want to know, and what this nation needs to know, is whether the man sitting in the Oval Office conspired with an enemy of America to affect the exercise of our democracy (hint: he did). It's that simple. Since I'm still pretty dang sure he DID do that, and every bit of ancillary evidence that's in the public domain says yep he did, which you'd realize if you weren't such addled partisan RETARDS.... I'm pleased that despite "your" best efforts we have have an actual patriotic American (unlike, say, YOU fuggin idiots) looking into it.
The shït is headed for the fan though. Make no mistake about THAT. Yikes. Hang on.
Paul, its amazing to me that with a few families running all the news agencies some suckers are too stupid to wonder how they all have their people saying the same lines in their slander of Trump.
Of course, to think those nwo groups have our best national interest at heart is beyond insane. But, they have been fed the same line over and over again which precludes intellectual, objective consideration or contemplation. They just swallow the kool-aid.
It's what happens when you fall of a ladder become a Junkie and are afraid of your own shadow.............
For the last two three weeks Molly Tibbets was an important story to all the media, What do you see about it today? As soon as they found out it was one of their chosen instead of a conservative that went nuts with an AR they hardly touch it.
What Mr. T defines (over and over, shuddup already) as a "very good man" is telling, isn't it? Manafort is a convicted felon who perpetrated massive fraud and tax evasion schemes- I.E., stealing from, wait for it, every tax-paying American citizen which sure as hell includes ME..... while working as an unregistered agent for a foreign government. Yeah, just a real peach of a guy.
"Drain the swamp" my hairy white butt.
Anyway, it's just a sideshow. You guys know, because I've said it all along, right here, in writing, archived, that in no way do I personally support an IP going after POTUS for just "whatever". So for example, though it's gonna fück Trump in the ass that he ordered Cohen to commit crimes on his behalf, I'm not personally pleased with any of that aspect of this.
What I want to know, and what this nation needs to know, is whether the man sitting in the Oval Office conspired with an enemy of America to affect the exercise of our democracy (hint: he did). It's that simple. Since I'm still pretty dang sure he DID do that, and every bit of ancillary evidence that's in the public domain says yep he did, which you'd realize if you weren't such addled partisan RETARDS.... I'm pleased that despite "your" best efforts we have have an actual patriotic American (unlike, say, YOU fuggin idiots) looking into it.
The shït is headed for the fan though. Make no mistake about THAT. Yikes. Hang on.
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Let’s follow the trail……
Here’s what it looks like when all the pieces are sewn together. It smells like conspiracy and treason. Everyone needs to read this. Slowly, and patiently, because it’s very important……
From 2001 to 2005 there was an ongoing investigation into the Clinton Foundation.
A Grand Jury had been empanelled.
Governments from around the world had donated to the “Charity”.
Yet, from 2001 to 2003 none of those “Donations” to the Clinton Foundation were declared.
Hmmm, now you would think that an honest investigator would be able to figure this out.
Guess who took over this investigation in 2002?
Bet you can’t guess.
None other than James Comey.
Now, that’s interesting, isn’t it?
Guess who was transferred in to the Internal Revenue Service to run the Tax Exemption Branch of the IRS?
Your friend and mine, Lois “Be on The Look Out” (BOLO) Lerner.
Now, that’s interesting, isn’t it?
It gets better, well not really, but this is all just a series of strange coincidences, right?
Guess who ran the Tax Division inside the Department of Injustice from 2001 to 2005?
No other than the Assistant Attorney General of the United States, Rod Rosenstein.
Now, that’s interesting, isn’t it?
Guess who was the Director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation during this time frame?
I know, it’s a miracle, just a coincidence, just an anomaly in statistics and chances, but it was Robert Mueller.
What do all four casting characters have in common?
They all were briefed and/or were front line investigators into the Clinton Foundation Investigation.
Now that’s just a coincidence, right?
Ok, lets chalk the last one up to mere chance.
Let’s fast forward to 2009……
James Comey leaves the Justice Department to go and cash-in at Lockheed Martin.
Hillary Clinton is running the State Department, on her own personal email server by the way.
The Uranium One “issue” comes to the attention of the Hillary.
Like all good public servants do, you know looking out for America’s best interest, she decides to support the decision and approve the sale of 20% of US Uranium to no other than, the Russians.
Now you would think that this is a fairly straight up deal, except it wasn’t, the People got absolutely nothing out of it.
However, prior to the sales approval, no other than Bill Clinton goes to Moscow, gets paid 500K for a one hour speech then meets with Vladimir Putin at his home for a few hours.
Ok, no big deal right?
Well, not so fast, the FBI had a mole inside the money laundering and bribery scheme.
Guess who was the FBI Director during this time frame?
Yep, Robert Mueller.
He even delivered a Uranium Sample to Moscow in 2009.
Guess who was handling that case within the Justice Department out of the US Attorney’s Office in Maryland?
No other than, Rod Rosenstein.
Guess what happened to the informant?
The Department of Justice placed a GAG order on him and threatened to lock him up if he spoke out about it.
How does 20% of the most strategic asset of the United States of America end up in Russian hands when the FBI has an informant, a mole providing inside information to the FBI on the criminal enterprise?
Guess what happened soon after the sale was approved?
~145 million dollars in “donations” made their way into the Clinton Foundation from entities directly connected to the Uranium One deal.
Guess who was still at the Internal Revenue Service working the Charitable Division?
No other than, Lois Lerner.
Ok, that’s all just another series of coincidences, nothing to see here, right?
Let’s fast forward to 2015.
Due to a series of tragic events in Benghazi and after the 9 “investigations” the House, Senate and at State Department, Trey Gowdy who was running the 10th investigation as Chairman of the Select Committee on Benghazi discovers that the Hillary ran the State Department on an unclassified, unauthorized, outlaw personal email server.
He also discovered that none of those emails had been turned over when she departed her “Public Service” as Secretary of State which was required by law.
He also discovered that there was Top Secret information contained within her personally archived email. ( Let’s not forget at least 10 CIA spies in china were killed by the Chinese because of the leaks and god knows what else occurred)
Sparing you the State Departments cover up, the nostrums they floated, the delay tactics that were employed and the outright lies that were spewed forth from the necks of the Kerry State Department, we shall leave it with this…… they did everything humanly possible to cover for Hillary.
Now this is amazing, guess who became FBI Director in 2013?
Guess who secured 17 no bid contracts for his employer (Lockheed Martin) with the State Department and was rewarded with a six million dollar thank you present when he departed his employer?
No other than James Comey.
Amazing how all those no-bids just went right through at State, huh?
Now he is the FBI Director in charge of the “Clinton Email Investigation” after of course his FBI Investigates the Lois Lerner “Matter” at the Internal Revenue Service and exonerates her.
Nope…. couldn’t find any crimes there.
Can you guess what happened next?
In April 2016, James Comey drafts an exoneration letter of Hillary Rodham Clinton, meanwhile the DOJ is handing out immunity deals like candy.
They didn’t even convene a Grand Jury.
Like a lightning bolt of statistical impossibility, like a miracle from God himself, like the true “Gangsta” Homey is, James steps out into the cameras of an awaiting press conference on July the 8th of 2016, and exonerates the Hillary from any wrongdoing.
Can you see the pattern?
It goes on and on, Rosenstein becomes Asst. Attorney General, Comey gets fired based upon a letter by Rosenstein, Comey leaks government information to the press, Mueller is assigned to the Russian Investigation sham by Rosenstein to provide cover for decades of malfeasance within the FBI and DOJ and the story continues.
FISA Abuse, political espionage….. pick a crime, any crime, chances are…… this group and a few others did it.
All the same players.
All compromised and conflicted.
All working fervently to NOT go to jail themselves.
All connected in one way or another to the Clinton’s.
They are like battery acid, they corrode and corrupt everything they touch.
How many lives have these two destroyed?
As of this writing, the Clinton Foundation, in its 20+ years of operation of being the largest International Charity Fraud in the history of mankind, has never been audited by the Internal Revenue Service.
Let us not forget that Comey’s brother works for DLA Piper, the law firm that does the Clinton Foundation’s taxes.
And, See the person that is the common denominator to all the crimes above and still doing her evil escape legal maneuvers at the top of the 3 Letter USA Agencies? Yep, that would be Hillary R. Clinton.
WHO IS LISA BARSOOMIAN?
Let’s learn a little about Mrs. Lisa H. Barsoomian’s background.
Lisa H. Barsoomian, a US Attorney that graduated from Georgetown Law, is a protege of James Comey and Robert Mueller.
Barsoomian, with her boss R. Craig Lawrence, represented Bill Clinton in 1998.
Lawrence also represented:
Robert Mueller three times;
James Comey five times;
Barack Obama 45 times;
Kathleen Sebelius 56 times;
Bill Clinton 40 times; and
Hillary Clinton 17 times.
Between 1998 and 2017, Barsoomian herself represented the FBI at least five times.
You may be saying to yourself, OK, who cares? Who cares about the
work history of this Barsoomian woman?
Apparently someone does, because someone out there cares so much that they’ve “purged” all Barsoomian court documents for her Clinton representation in Hamburg vs. Clinton in 1998 and its appeal in 1999 from the DC District and Appeals Court dockets (?).
Someone out there cares so much that the internet has been “purged” of all information pertaining to Barsoomian.
Historically, this indicates that the individual is a protected CIA operative. Additionally, Lisa Barsoomian has specialized in opposing Freedom of Information Act requests on behalf of the intelligence community. And, although Barsoomian has been involved in hundreds of cases representing the DC Office of the US Attorney, her email address is Lisa Barsoomian at NIH gov. The NIH stands for National Institutes of Health.
This is a tactic routinely used by the CIA to protect an operative by using another government organization to shield their activities.
It’s a cover, so big deal right? I mean what does one more attorney with ties to the US intelligence community really matter?
It deals with Trump and his recent tariffs on Chinese steel and aluminum imports, the border wall, DACA, everything coming out of California, the Uni-party unrelenting opposition to President Trump, the Clapper leaks, the Comey leaks, Attorney General Jeff Sessions recusal and subsequent 14 month nap with occasional forays into the marijuana legalization mix …. and last but not least Mueller’s never-ending investigation into collusion between the Trump team and the Russians.
Why does Barsoomian, CIA operative, merit any mention?
BECAUSE….
She is Assistant Attorney General Rod Rosenstein’s WIFE….That’s why!!
GET THIS INFORMATION OUT TO EVERYONE YOU CAN.
Jaw dropping, shocking and extremely sad that this info has never been exposed-
DO YOUR PART IN PLASTERING THIS INFORMATION EVERYWHERE …. it’s bullet proof and cannot be blown off by leftists … and will convince many not paying attention that we have a soft coup happening now..
Cohen has been said to be willing to tell special counsel Robert Mueller that Trump knew in advance of a 2016 meeting at Trump Tower in which the Republican candidate’s eldest son sought damaging information from a Russian lawyer about Hillary Clinton.
(Cohen's lawyer) made the claim during his media tour Wednesday that Trump’s deference to Russian President Vladimir Putin in Helsinki on July 16 was a “significant turning point” and that it galvanized Cohen’s thinking that Trump was unsuitable to hold office.
Seems to this numbnuts that Cohen is in a position to know.
But hey, I'm sure it's alllllll just a Rigged With Hunt carried out by 12 Angry Disgraced Democrats.
Jesus wept, you guys are retards for not realizing this looooong ago. You do now, but you're too big a' pusses to admit it.
Jello are you really this stupid or is it just the fall off the ladder? You can’t even climb a ladder you retard and I’m suppose to think your politically savvy? PTSD from a ladder fall!!! Your a friggin puss.. Go back to your bong and overdose you worthless piece of 💩
Seriously. THINK. Trump is not THAT different in practical effect from any standard Republican POTUS. Wow, so he's signed a tax cut and increased military spending a bit and nominates conservative judges. Big whoop.
I mean, he's clearly unsuited for the job, but whatever, plus, that wasn't so blatantly obvious as it is now 2+ years ago when your conspiracy is alleged to have begun. He was just a candidate. The dude is/was unworthy of a "soft coup".
But here's some actual REALITY: Russia, who is NOT our friend, staged a very successful intelligence operation with which they've thrown our democracy into total turmoil and dysfunction. At a bare minimum Trump himself- according to his freaking lawyer- engaged with and attempted to conspire with that operation. This isn't speculation or wild-eyed BS; this is now known, corroborated, public domain information, most of which has been for some time now.
If he conspired with them to damage our democracy then this is beyond huge. Yet you pawns are so indoctrinated and operating in an alt.facts bubble that you are aggressively ENABLING this act of pure treason.
If it turns out he conspired with them I hope he hangs and I mean that. In that case he'd be complicit in a society-altering attack on American democracy.
And I hate that elitist lying cünt Hillary Clinton. This has nothing to with that. This has everything to do with the likelyhood that a sitting POTUS participated on an attack on our democracy. And if THAT don't horn you up, go live in some other [bleep] country. Bet Putin would have ya.
Jello I mean clearly your unsuited to respond to anything intelligent because in truth and fact your a fucging moron. Go climb a taller ladder and finish the job. I mean can you do anything right?...
Jello are you really this stupid or is it just the fall off the ladder? You can’t even climb a ladder you retard and I’m suppose to think your politically savvy? PTSD from a ladder fall!!! Your a friggin puss.. Go back to your bong and overdose you worthless piece of 💩
Just to correct the record yet again, which is apparently necessary because the sack of shït liars are at it again, I neither fell off a ladder nor do I have PTSD. Since they probably are lying about this as well, let me add that I receive no disability payment from any entity whatsoever. I'm self employed, very busy, very successful, and killin' it. Let me put it this way. I'll make more money this month than any three of the liars put together. Yep. Suck on THAT.
Those lies are being put forth as a form of character assasination. It's a desperation move by the liars and an indicator of how far "you" have fallen on this forum that it's so widespread and tolerated. You want to know who are pussiês? People who resort to lies because that's all they have left, and people who knowingly promulgate said lies. I'm calling a bunch of you pûssies right now.
The truth is I'm beating the lying sons of bïtches like a drum, right here, archived, on this thread. I've been proven to be correct at every turn on the issues central to this thread. They, incorrect. I know that makes some vag's get sandy around here. That amuses me greatly since, after all, I'm right and they're wrong and it only gets better for me and worse for them every day.
So Bigfish, Deflave, and the other liars, just keep lying. Doesn't hurt me and shows what piles of shït you are and the weakness of your game.
Just to correct the record yet again, which is apparently necessary because the sack of shït liars are at it again, I neither fell off a ladder nor do I have PTSD. Since they probably are lying about this as well, Those lies are being put forth as a form of character assasination.
Well, well,well, Who's the sack of schit liar now?
Originally Posted by Jeff_O on 3-12-17
I was diagnosed with PTSD about a year after my accident... and a miserable year it was. While I would never pretend to equate what happened to me, or my version of PTSD, to that of a combat vet,
The entire Jeff Obama post.
Originally Posted by Jeff_O
Yep!
I was diagnosed with PTSD about a year after my accident... and a miserable year it was. While I would never pretend to equate what happened to me, or my version of PTSD, to that of a combat vet, I can at a minimum report that it is a debilitating state of being. I can also say conclusively that marijuana helped considerably to lower my baseline anxiety and tendency to jump out of my [bleep] skin at sudden noises and so on. Until you've had a full-on prickly sweat weak-knees fight/flight reaction to a dog barking or car door closing or kid yelling you can't really imagine how awful and relentlessly exhausting it is. Hope dies. Love fades. Appetite wanes. It's ugly.
I don't personally feel that medical efficacy is necessary to argue for legality. Ain't one thing wrong with a grown man catching a recreational buzz. That said, the medical properties of this plant- which extend far beyond treating PTSD- are certainly an enormous bonus at a bare minimum.
If a person believes in freedom and individual responsibility, they believe weed should be legal. Period. And the converse is true. If you believe people should be in legal jeopardy for using this substance- that the government can rightfully take their freedom over it- than you do not actually believe in freedom.
Thanks MAG, I remember the 'car accident' now. Maybe getting 'lost on the[5acre] spread' induced early onset? Or maybe that coupled with opening a box-O-boolits had him teetering and then the car wreck.... Either way, he somewhat diminished his own character a few posts above......again.
Gee Jello I must have struck a nerve. Character? What character? Your a piece of 💩💩 wuss that claims he has PTSD from an accident. I’d say grow a pair but your Mangina is in the way.
Jello are you really this stupid or is it just the fall off the ladder? You can’t even climb a ladder you retard and I’m suppose to think your politically savvy? PTSD from a ladder fall!!! Your a friggin puss.. Go back to your bong and overdose you worthless piece of 💩
Just to correct the record yet again, which is apparently necessary because the sack of shït liars are at it again, I neither fell off a ladder nor do I have PTSD. Since they probably are lying about this as well, let me add that I receive no disability payment from any entity whatsoever. I'm self employed, very busy, very successful, and killin' it. Let me put it this way. I'll make more money this month than any three of the liars put together. Yep. Suck on THAT.
Those lies are being put forth as a form of character assasination. It's a desperation move by the liars and an indicator of how far "you" have fallen on this forum that it's so widespread and tolerated. You want to know who are pussiês? People who resort to lies because that's all they have left, and people who knowingly promulgate said lies. I'm calling a bunch of you pûssies right now.
The truth is I'm beating the lying sons of bïtches like a drum, right here, archived, on this thread. I've been proven to be correct at every turn on the issues central to this thread. They, incorrect. I know that makes some vag's get sandy around here. That amuses me greatly since, after all, I'm right and they're wrong and it only gets better for me and worse for them every day.
So Bigfish, Deflave, and the other liars, just keep lying. Doesn't hurt me and shows what piles of shït you are and the weakness of your game.
I was hoping a campfire historian would come along as soon as Jeff denied the PTSD thing. Knew it was in one of the pothead threads and really did not want to dig it up. Had forgotten the car accident part though. But I KNOW there was also something about a ladder. Extra points for exposing the real news. A partial box of bullets (of my choice) to the first that can link the origins of the now denied ladder reference. I know its out there as sure as Jeff's discussion of edibles or his promise to stay out of politics.
LMFAO
So Jeff,
Being a liberal and a gun guy (which unlike most of your cohorts here I do give you credit for) how do you feel about common sense gun laws, like taking away weapons from certain individuals, such as those suffering from PTSD? Your comrades would aim it at veterans as they love America and could cause trouble later for the commies...yet you too could get caught up in the whirlwind. I suppose you can't have a utopia without sacrifice.
....but not being able to open a box of Nosler bullets is 100% correct? It’s not easy keeping up with the trials and tribulations of JeffO’s “life”. I do also believe that he did tangle with a ladder at some point and lost, a chainsaw too.
Just wanted to share a cool story. I logged on for the first time in FOREVER just to bust your balls about lying about the whole PTSD thing. Turns out balls had already been busted while I was at work...no biggie. So then I check my PM's also in the first time in FOREVER and it turns out my stock from McMillan is ready!!!
You are like some type of totem or good luck charm. When Trump got elected you predicted gloom in the stock market. I got the checkbook out and bought more. Turned out great. You said Hillary was a shoe in and we got the best president in my lifetime. IDK about the rest of the guys here but I for one say KEEP ON TRUCKIN MISTER!!!!
As long as you remain 100% wrong in your predictions and 180 degrees from the truth there remains a balance in this world that is hard to explain. Probably easier to explain than voting for open boarders and generational welfare abuse but tricky none the less.
So anyways, a big shout to Jeff 0 for the McMillan Stock. I don't know how you do it but keep channeling the karma, man.
I don't really doubt the Mueller will go after Trump's family, friends, associates, or anyone else he can to ruin Trump and force him from office.
We are just seeing the low hanging fruit being picked now.
This is all building up to a crescendo.
They are once again weaponizing agencies against our own.
Their only real crime is daring to try and drain the swamp and put our country first.
Mueller and the Swamp want to make an example of Trump, his family, his associates and friends so that this is never tried again, and the Swamp can retain control from now on.
Question is... Will we sit by and watch them do it?
....but not being able to open a box of Nosler bullets is 100% correct? It’s not easy keeping up with the trials and tribulations of JeffO’s “life”. I do also believe that he did tangle with a ladder at some point and lost, a chainsaw too.
How about when he went to change the oil on his truck and drained the tranny instead and ended up 5 quarts to high in the engine.........
....but not being able to open a box of Nosler bullets is 100% correct? It’s not easy keeping up with the trials and tribulations of JeffO’s “life”. I do also believe that he did tangle with a ladder at some point and lost, a chainsaw too.
How about when he went to change the oil on his truck and drained the tranny instead and ended up 5 quarts to high in the engine.........
LOL.
Friend of mine had a Meskin do that to one of his ranch pickups...
Okay, he is clearly caught lying, how come he does not come out and admit he is wrong, his own words show he is dishonest.
Originally Posted by 12344mag
Originally Posted by Jeff_O
Just to correct the record yet again, which is apparently necessary because the sack of shït liars are at it again, I neither fell off a ladder nor do I have PTSD. Since they probably are lying about this as well, Those lies are being put forth as a form of character assasination.
Well, well,well, Who's the sack of schit liar now?
Originally Posted by Jeff_O on 3-12-17
I was diagnosed with PTSD about a year after my accident... and a miserable year it was. While I would never pretend to equate what happened to me, or my version of PTSD, to that of a combat vet,
The entire Jeff Obama post.
Originally Posted by Jeff_O
Yep!
I was diagnosed with PTSD about a year after my accident... and a miserable year it was. While I would never pretend to equate what happened to me, or my version of PTSD, to that of a combat vet, I can at a minimum report that it is a debilitating state of being. I can also say conclusively that marijuana helped considerably to lower my baseline anxiety and tendency to jump out of my [bleep] skin at sudden noises and so on. Until you've had a full-on prickly sweat weak-knees fight/flight reaction to a dog barking or car door closing or kid yelling you can't really imagine how awful and relentlessly exhausting it is. Hope dies. Love fades. Appetite wanes. It's ugly.
I don't personally feel that medical efficacy is necessary to argue for legality. Ain't one thing wrong with a grown man catching a recreational buzz. That said, the medical properties of this plant- which extend far beyond treating PTSD- are certainly an enormous bonus at a bare minimum.
If a person believes in freedom and individual responsibility, they believe weed should be legal. Period. And the converse is true. If you believe people should be in legal jeopardy for using this substance- that the government can rightfully take their freedom over it- than you do not actually believe in freedom.
Once his babbling meltdown started, I lost track due to amusement.
No apology needed . I offered him a 10 to one deal at some point about a mid term date but he suggested the not finishing term deal either way I'm good. Fast twist 22's rule......
what I don't understand jeff …….the country is finally getting turned around, people back to work...people making money again for their retirement....I could go on …….so what I don't understand is why people like you want to see our country fail.
I think trump is a thin skinned jackass...that is doing a great job for the USA......putting us first, that has been a long time coming.....but for people like you, basically cheering for him to fail, really makes you and others the enemy.
god help you and your kind, if a civil war breaks out.....I think it will get really ugly quick.....bob
I see that you haven't figured out "the plan" yet Jeff.. What you are seeing is all theater while the hunted (and that includes your hero the muzzy faqqot) are being maneuvered toward the Buffalo Jump..
You might want to start red pilling yourself (maybe one or two a week to start with), cuz if you don't when those 50,000 or so indictments are made public you are going to be shiiting your britches for months on end as your worldview gets crushed..
I will try to help you keep up Jeff, but I can only do so much.. Meanwhile...
Trust the Plan
Can you answer BobMt's post above, would be interested to see your answer..
"what I don't understand jeff …….the country is finally getting turned around, people back to work...people making money again for their retirement....I could go on …….so what I don't understand is why people like you want to see our country fail."
what I don't understand jeff …….the country is finally getting turned around, people back to work...people making money again for their retirement....I could go on …….so what I don't understand is why people like you want to see our country fail.
I think trump is a thin skinned jackass...that is doing a great job for the USA......putting us first, that has been a long time coming.....but for people like you, basically cheering for him to fail, really makes you and others the enemy.
god help you and your kind, if a civil war breaks out.....I think it will get really ugly quick.....bob
Because he’s a petulant child who didn’t get his way, just like all the other libtards.
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Okay, he is clearly caught lying, how come he does not come out and admit he is wrong, his own words show he is dishonest.
Originally Posted by 12344mag
Originally Posted by Jeff_O
Just to correct the record yet again, which is apparently necessary because the sack of shït liars are at it again, I neither fell off a ladder nor do I have PTSD. Since they probably are lying about this as well, Those lies are being put forth as a form of character assasination.
Well, well,well, Who's the sack of schit liar now?
Originally Posted by Jeff_O on 3-12-17
I was diagnosed with PTSD about a year after my accident... and a miserable year it was. While I would never pretend to equate what happened to me, or my version of PTSD, to that of a combat vet,
The entire Jeff Obama post.
Originally Posted by Jeff_O
Yep!
I was diagnosed with PTSD about a year after my accident... and a miserable year it was. While I would never pretend to equate what happened to me, or my version of PTSD, to that of a combat vet, I can at a minimum report that it is a debilitating state of being. I can also say conclusively that marijuana helped considerably to lower my baseline anxiety and tendency to jump out of my [bleep] skin at sudden noises and so on. Until you've had a full-on prickly sweat weak-knees fight/flight reaction to a dog barking or car door closing or kid yelling you can't really imagine how awful and relentlessly exhausting it is. Hope dies. Love fades. Appetite wanes. It's ugly.
I don't personally feel that medical efficacy is necessary to argue for legality. Ain't one thing wrong with a grown man catching a recreational buzz. That said, the medical properties of this plant- which extend far beyond treating PTSD- are certainly an enormous bonus at a bare minimum.
If a person believes in freedom and individual responsibility, they believe weed should be legal. Period. And the converse is true. If you believe people should be in legal jeopardy for using this substance- that the government can rightfully take their freedom over it- than you do not actually believe in freedom.
Okay, he is clearly caught lying, how come he does not come out and admit he is wrong, his own words show he is dishonest.
Originally Posted by 12344mag
Originally Posted by Jeff_O
Just to correct the record yet again, which is apparently necessary because the sack of shït liars are at it again, I neither fell off a ladder nor do I have PTSD. Since they probably are lying about this as well, Those lies are being put forth as a form of character assasination.
Well, well,well, Who's the sack of schit liar now?
Originally Posted by Jeff_O on 3-12-17
I was diagnosed with PTSD about a year after my accident... and a miserable year it was. While I would never pretend to equate what happened to me, or my version of PTSD, to that of a combat vet,
The entire Jeff Obama post.
Originally Posted by Jeff_O
Yep!
I was diagnosed with PTSD about a year after my accident... and a miserable year it was. While I would never pretend to equate what happened to me, or my version of PTSD, to that of a combat vet, I can at a minimum report that it is a debilitating state of being. I can also say conclusively that marijuana helped considerably to lower my baseline anxiety and tendency to jump out of my [bleep] skin at sudden noises and so on. Until you've had a full-on prickly sweat weak-knees fight/flight reaction to a dog barking or car door closing or kid yelling you can't really imagine how awful and relentlessly exhausting it is. Hope dies. Love fades. Appetite wanes. It's ugly.
I don't personally feel that medical efficacy is necessary to argue for legality. Ain't one thing wrong with a grown man catching a recreational buzz. That said, the medical properties of this plant- which extend far beyond treating PTSD- are certainly an enormous bonus at a bare minimum.
If a person believes in freedom and individual responsibility, they believe weed should be legal. Period. And the converse is true. If you believe people should be in legal jeopardy for using this substance- that the government can rightfully take their freedom over it- than you do not actually believe in freedom.
BobM, if he didn't collude then I'm rooting for him. If he colluded then he's gotta go. Either way, I'm rooting for AMERICA 100%. I'm a self-employed metalworker. Booming economy? Fine by me! The problem here is, he colluded. A whoooole bunch guys have decided that's basically ok. It's not.
(On the economy note, though, his [bleep] metal tariffs have cost me well north of $1k and counting in costs I can't really pass along yet. And if we're being honest here, he's barely moved the needle economically from what he inherited from Obama. Basically, I think he's about a wash at this point.... certainly hasn't done anything worthy of the kind of worshipful rhetoric the nutjob 30% spout..... we'd be in roughly the same economic position Trump or no Trump.)
But that's not why I'm posting. I'm posting because the Orwellian SOB is now claiming NBC "fudged" the tape where he essentially admits to obstruction. Jesus wept. He's quite literally trying to get people to ignore their own lyin' eyes. And the crazy thing is? 30% will go along with it.
allright jeff we will see how it shakes out........is collusion a crime?.....and lets be honest....obama was the worst thing that happened to our economy.....how long does this go on?.....they need to lay their cards on the table now.....bob
BobM, if he didn't collude then I'm rooting for him. If he colluded then he's gotta go. Either way, I'm rooting for AMERICA 100%. I'm a self-employed metalworker. Booming economy? Fine by me! The problem here is, he colluded. A whoooole bunch guys have decided that's basically ok. It's not.
(On the economy note, though, his [bleep] metal tariffs have cost me well north of $1k and counting in costs I can't really pass along yet. And if we're being honest here, he's barely moved the needle economically from what he inherited from Obama. Basically, I think he's about a wash at this point.... certainly hasn't done anything worthy of the kind of worshipful rhetoric the nutjob 30% spout..... we'd be in roughly the same economic position Trump or no Trump.)
But that's not why I'm posting. I'm posting because the Orwellian SOB is now claiming NBC "fudged" the tape where he essentially admits to obstruction. Jesus wept. He's quite literally trying to get people to ignore their own lyin' eyes. And the crazy thing is? 30% will go along with it.
Oh please, you declared him guilty without a shred of GD proof long ago. When this Democrat, DOJ, FBI house of cards comes crumbling down you'll see who got duped and who didn't (hint, it isn't us). You've lost a [bleep] ton of credibility on this site because of what you've posted in this thread, good luck trying to get any of it back.
Aight guys. Been a while since I said this so let's get it on the record (again).
I am NOT some rabid anti-Trumper. Am I all over the campfire bitching about his every goofy move? No, I am not. The one issue that I care deeply about WRT Trump is whether he worked with Russia to attack America. That's it. Beyond that- hey, the people spoke, elections have consequences, and who doesn't want to see new blood in D.C.?!
So to repeat:
- I do not support his impeachment, prosecution, whatever over the felony he told his lawyer to commit in the Daniels payoff. Whatever. So he's a disgusting human bein and joke of a "man" who raw-dogs porn stars with a wife at home. Not impeachable in my book.
- I do not support his impeachment, prosecution, whatever over obstruction.... up to a point. At some point it becomes too egregious to ignore. I'll await Muellers report to make the final call there. Clearly, he's acted to obstruct. It could just be the muscle-memory of an innocent counterpuncher reacting. Doubt it; but I'll hold an open mind there.
- I do support his impeachment, prosecution, and execution if he helped Russia attack American democracy, as should any patriotic American in my opinion. The whole point of my participation in this thread is that it's clear to me that this occurred whereas many/most of you see the tea leaves differently so I'm here to, well, grind my ass in your faces as time after time I'm shown to be right on this and you wrong. But, again, we shall see. Was it "just" Manafort, Stone, etc? Or wasTrump involved? Guess we'll find out.
What's dismaying about a segment of our society- well represented here, to say the least- is the lengths and DEPTHS to which you/they are going to attempt to pre-inoculate Trump against this and thus against the consequences. That's disgusting and un-American and if THAT'S what BobW means by "civil war" then I know damn well what side I'm on. The American side. Full stop.
Aight guys. Been a while since I said this so let's get it on the record (again).
I am NOT some rabid anti-Trumper. Am I all over the campfire bitching about his every goofy move? No, I am not. The one issue that I care deeply about WRT Trump is whether he worked with Russia to attack America. That's it. Beyond that- hey, the people spoke, elections have consequences, and who doesn't want to see new blood in D.C.?!
So to repeat:
- I do not support his impeachment, prosecution, whatever over the felony he told his lawyer to commit in the Daniels payoff. Whatever. So he's a disgusting human bein and joke of a "man" who raw-dogs porn stars with a wife at home. Not impeachable in my book.
- I do not support his impeachment, prosecution, whatever over obstruction.... up to a point. At some point it becomes too egregious to ignore. I'll await Muellers report to make the final call there. Clearly, he's acted to obstruct. It could just be the muscle-memory of an innocent counterpuncher reacting. Doubt it; but I'll hold an open mind there.
- I do support his impeachment, prosecution, and execution if he helped Russia attack American democracy, as should any patriotic American in my opinion. The whole point of my participation in this thread is that it's clear to me that this occurred whereas many/most of you see the tea leaves differently so I'm here to, well, grind my ass in your faces as time after time I'm shown to be right on this and you wrong. But, again, we shall see. Was it "just" Manafort, Stone, etc? Or wasTrump involved? Guess we'll find out.
What's dismaying about a segment of our society- well represented here, to say the least- is the lengths and DEPTHS to which you/they are going to attempt to pre-inoculate Trump against this and thus against the consequences. That's disgusting and un-American and if THAT'S what BobW means by "civil war" then I know damn well what side I'm on. The American side. Full stop.
GTFOH with that BS. If you're so concerned about Russian meddling, why aren't you going after the Dems, there's proof all day long that they worked with Russia and a foreign spy (Steele) to try and stop Trump from being elected and are still trying to remove him from office. He was legit elected by the American people yet you ignore what the Dems tried to do during the 2016 election. You're a [bleep] fraud.
Aight guys. Been a while since I said this so let's get it on the record (again).
I am NOT some rabid anti-Trumper. Am I all over the campfire bitching about his every goofy move? No, I am not. The one issue that I care deeply about WRT Trump is whether he worked with Russia to attack America. That's it. Beyond that- hey, the people spoke, elections have consequences, and who doesn't want to see new blood in D.C.?!
So to repeat:
- I do not support his impeachment, prosecution, whatever over the felony he told his lawyer to commit in the Daniels payoff. Whatever. So he's a disgusting human bein and joke of a "man" who raw-dogs porn stars with a wife at home. Not impeachable in my book.
- I do not support his impeachment, prosecution, whatever over obstruction.... up to a point. At some point it becomes too egregious to ignore. I'll await Muellers report to make the final call there. Clearly, he's acted to obstruct. It could just be the muscle-memory of an innocent counterpuncher reacting. Doubt it; but I'll hold an open mind there.
- I do support his impeachment, prosecution, and execution if he helped Russia attack American democracy, as should any patriotic American in my opinion. The whole point of my participation in this thread is that it's clear to me that this occurred whereas many/most of you see the tea leaves differently so I'm here to, well, grind my ass in your faces as time after time I'm shown to be right on this and you wrong. But, again, we shall see. Was it "just" Manafort, Stone, etc? Or wasTrump involved? Guess we'll find out.
What's dismaying about a segment of our society- well represented here, to say the least- is the lengths and DEPTHS to which you/they are going to attempt to pre-inoculate Trump against this and thus against the consequences. That's disgusting and un-American and if THAT'S what BobW means by "civil war" then I know damn well what side I'm on. The American side. Full stop.
You're still no good at this politics stuff. And you are going to owe me a box of bullets.
What a hypocritical fool. Railing about the JD and FBI being politicized then OVERTLY attempting to politicize same.
Drain the swamp my ass. You gotta be kidding me. Those guys ARE the swamp, defined. Is this what we've come to? The Donald is so freaked he's willing to get in bed with sleazy felons just for political advantage? Oh, snap.........
My god you guys have round heels. I'm embarrassed FOR you, and yet I think you are (mostly) irredeemable asshöles. That's how stoopid this is getting. Pitiable.
Carry on. Somewhere, there's an alt.fact for you to cling to. Jeeeeezus.
Here’s what it looks like when all the pieces are sewn together. It smells like conspiracy and treason. Everyone needs to read this. Slowly, and patiently, because it’s very important……
From 2001 to 2005 there was an ongoing investigation into the Clinton Foundation.
A Grand Jury had been empanelled.
Governments from around the world had donated to the “Charity”.
Yet, from 2001 to 2003 none of those “Donations” to the Clinton Foundation were declared.
Hmmm, now you would think that an honest investigator would be able to figure this out.
Guess who took over this investigation in 2002?
Bet you can’t guess.
None other than James Comey.
Now, that’s interesting, isn’t it?
Guess who was transferred in to the Internal Revenue Service to run the Tax Exemption Branch of the IRS?
Your friend and mine, Lois “Be on The Look Out” (BOLO) Lerner.
Now, that’s interesting, isn’t it?
It gets better, well not really, but this is all just a series of strange coincidences, right?
Guess who ran the Tax Division inside the Department of Injustice from 2001 to 2005?
No other than the Assistant Attorney General of the United States, Rod Rosenstein.
Now, that’s interesting, isn’t it?
Guess who was the Director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation during this time frame?
I know, it’s a miracle, just a coincidence, just an anomaly in statistics and chances, but it was Robert Mueller.
What do all four casting characters have in common?
They all were briefed and/or were front line investigators into the Clinton Foundation Investigation.
Now that’s just a coincidence, right?
Ok, lets chalk the last one up to mere chance.
Let’s fast forward to 2009……
James Comey leaves the Justice Department to go and cash-in at Lockheed Martin.
Hillary Clinton is running the State Department, on her own personal email server by the way.
The Uranium One “issue” comes to the attention of the Hillary.
Like all good public servants do, you know looking out for America’s best interest, she decides to support the decision and approve the sale of 20% of US Uranium to no other than, the Russians.
Now you would think that this is a fairly straight up deal, except it wasn’t, the People got absolutely nothing out of it.
However, prior to the sales approval, no other than Bill Clinton goes to Moscow, gets paid 500K for a one hour speech then meets with Vladimir Putin at his home for a few hours.
Ok, no big deal right?
Well, not so fast, the FBI had a mole inside the money laundering and bribery scheme.
Guess who was the FBI Director during this time frame?
Yep, Robert Mueller.
He even delivered a Uranium Sample to Moscow in 2009.
Guess who was handling that case within the Justice Department out of the US Attorney’s Office in Maryland?
No other than, Rod Rosenstein.
Guess what happened to the informant?
The Department of Justice placed a GAG order on him and threatened to lock him up if he spoke out about it.
How does 20% of the most strategic asset of the United States of America end up in Russian hands when the FBI has an informant, a mole providing inside information to the FBI on the criminal enterprise?
Guess what happened soon after the sale was approved?
~145 million dollars in “donations” made their way into the Clinton Foundation from entities directly connected to the Uranium One deal.
Guess who was still at the Internal Revenue Service working the Charitable Division?
No other than, Lois Lerner.
Ok, that’s all just another series of coincidences, nothing to see here, right?
Let’s fast forward to 2015.
Due to a series of tragic events in Benghazi and after the 9 “investigations” the House, Senate and at State Department, Trey Gowdy who was running the 10th investigation as Chairman of the Select Committee on Benghazi discovers that the Hillary ran the State Department on an unclassified, unauthorized, outlaw personal email server.
He also discovered that none of those emails had been turned over when she departed her “Public Service” as Secretary of State which was required by law.
He also discovered that there was Top Secret information contained within her personally archived email. ( Let’s not forget at least 10 CIA spies in china were killed by the Chinese because of the leaks and god knows what else occurred)
Sparing you the State Departments cover up, the nostrums they floated, the delay tactics that were employed and the outright lies that were spewed forth from the necks of the Kerry State Department, we shall leave it with this…… they did everything humanly possible to cover for Hillary.
Now this is amazing, guess who became FBI Director in 2013?
Guess who secured 17 no bid contracts for his employer (Lockheed Martin) with the State Department and was rewarded with a six million dollar thank you present when he departed his employer?
No other than James Comey.
Amazing how all those no-bids just went right through at State, huh?
Now he is the FBI Director in charge of the “Clinton Email Investigation” after of course his FBI Investigates the Lois Lerner “Matter” at the Internal Revenue Service and exonerates her.
Nope…. couldn’t find any crimes there.
Can you guess what happened next?
In April 2016, James Comey drafts an exoneration letter of Hillary Rodham Clinton, meanwhile the DOJ is handing out immunity deals like candy.
They didn’t even convene a Grand Jury.
Like a lightning bolt of statistical impossibility, like a miracle from God himself, like the true “Gangsta” Homey is, James steps out into the cameras of an awaiting press conference on July the 8th of 2016, and exonerates the Hillary from any wrongdoing.
Can you see the pattern?
It goes on and on, Rosenstein becomes Asst. Attorney General, Comey gets fired based upon a letter by Rosenstein, Comey leaks government information to the press, Mueller is assigned to the Russian Investigation sham by Rosenstein to provide cover for decades of malfeasance within the FBI and DOJ and the story continues.
FISA Abuse, political espionage….. pick a crime, any crime, chances are…… this group and a few others did it.
All the same players.
All compromised and conflicted.
All working fervently to NOT go to jail themselves.
All connected in one way or another to the Clinton’s.
They are like battery acid, they corrode and corrupt everything they touch.
How many lives have these two destroyed?
As of this writing, the Clinton Foundation, in its 20+ years of operation of being the largest International Charity Fraud in the history of mankind, has never been audited by the Internal Revenue Service.
Let us not forget that Comey’s brother works for DLA Piper, the law firm that does the Clinton Foundation’s taxes.
And, See the person that is the common denominator to all the crimes above and still doing her evil escape legal maneuvers at the top of the 3 Letter USA Agencies? Yep, that would be Hillary R. Clinton.
WHO IS LISA BARSOOMIAN?
Let’s learn a little about Mrs. Lisa H. Barsoomian’s background.
Lisa H. Barsoomian, a US Attorney that graduated from Georgetown Law, is a protege of James Comey and Robert Mueller.
Barsoomian, with her boss R. Craig Lawrence, represented Bill Clinton in 1998.
Lawrence also represented:
Robert Mueller three times;
James Comey five times;
Barack Obama 45 times;
Kathleen Sebelius 56 times;
Bill Clinton 40 times; and
Hillary Clinton 17 times.
Between 1998 and 2017, Barsoomian herself represented the FBI at least five times.
You may be saying to yourself, OK, who cares? Who cares about the
work history of this Barsoomian woman?
Apparently someone does, because someone out there cares so much that they’ve “purged” all Barsoomian court documents for her Clinton representation in Hamburg vs. Clinton in 1998 and its appeal in 1999 from the DC District and Appeals Court dockets (?).
Someone out there cares so much that the internet has been “purged” of all information pertaining to Barsoomian.
Historically, this indicates that the individual is a protected CIA operative. Additionally, Lisa Barsoomian has specialized in opposing Freedom of Information Act requests on behalf of the intelligence community. And, although Barsoomian has been involved in hundreds of cases representing the DC Office of the US Attorney, her email address is Lisa Barsoomian at NIH gov. The NIH stands for National Institutes of Health.
This is a tactic routinely used by the CIA to protect an operative by using another government organization to shield their activities.
It’s a cover, so big deal right? I mean what does one more attorney with ties to the US intelligence community really matter?
It deals with Trump and his recent tariffs on Chinese steel and aluminum imports, the border wall, DACA, everything coming out of California, the Uni-party unrelenting opposition to President Trump, the Clapper leaks, the Comey leaks, Attorney General Jeff Sessions recusal and subsequent 14 month nap with occasional forays into the marijuana legalization mix …. and last but not least Mueller’s never-ending investigation into collusion between the Trump team and the Russians.
Why does Barsoomian, CIA operative, merit any mention?
BECAUSE….
She is Assistant Attorney General Rod Rosenstein’s WIFE….That’s why!!
GET THIS INFORMATION OUT TO EVERYONE YOU CAN.
Jaw dropping, shocking and extremely sad that this info has never been exposed-
DO YOUR PART IN PLASTERING THIS INFORMATION EVERYWHERE …. it’s bullet proof and cannot be blown off by leftists … and will convince many not paying attention that we have a soft coup happening now..
So the newest little tidbit is that Mueller has tabled obstruction questions for now and will settle for written answers to matters dealing with collusion with Russia.
And if you don't get the significance of that..............
Written answers. I [bleep] love it. Watch Trump and his legal team squirm now. Watch Rudy G. try to justify NOT providing them. TFF.
And I see you're still a lying sack of shït, jorge.
Put this in your pipes and smoke it. All y'all have been canonizing Napolitano. Still? Read it and weep. Numbnuts is handing Mueller "corrupt intent" on a platter because he cannot STFU. And he cannot STFU because he's convinced his ever-shrinking "base" will believe whatever misinformation he spouts. To his point, y'all DO slurp it up like a certain porn star.
(Ewww..... wipe your chins, guys! Is a LITTLE self-respect too much to ask of you?!)
Here's a little elucidation (from elsewhere) since you're [bleep] retards:
"As the gravity of Trump’s outburst becomes clear, you’ll hear his attorneys and surrogates brush it off. They’ll say that tweets prove nothing about obstruction of justice, because tweets are just words—Sessions still has his job—and tweets are public, which is the opposite of a conspiracy. But none of that matters. Legally, the tweet sheds light on a specific question: Trump’s attitude toward the administration of justice. It shows that his motivation in attacking investigations is corrupt. It illuminates everything—the scramble to protect Flynn, the efforts to corrupt Comey, the hounding of Sessions, the attempts to fire Mueller—that happened behind closed doors.
Jello you calling someone on this forum a liar 🤥 is rich. You’re one of the biggest lying sacks of crap on the fire. Proven by the way. Keep spouting your idiotic hyperbole because we all still think you’re a grade A dumbass.
Have you considered that you guys are a bunch of f****ing morons who elected another f***ing moron and you're too f***ing stupid to realize what a mistake it was?
Have you considered that you guys are a bunch of f****ing morons who elected another f***ing moron and you're too f***ing stupid to realize what a mistake it was?
If we did, just consider our moron to be far superior to the she moron and outright crook that he defeated.
Hi, JellO....... Are those new talking points from the DNC that you're spilling out here?
btw - Comey didn't need help corrupting himself. He handled that all by his lonesome loathsome self.
Have you considered that you guys are a bunch of f****ing morons who elected another f***ing moron and you're too f***ing stupid to realize what a mistake it was?
Kinda going back to the beginning of this thread. Can someone explain to me how when there exists a well structured chain of command and a mechanism to smoothly transition everything to the new command, firing the head could be considered an obstruction?
Trump let Comey slide for a time. He had an administration to set up and other things to do. Meanwhile Sessions jumped ship and recused himself allowing Rosenstein to appoint Muller to investigate Trump and his entire administration for anything he could find.
Truth tell nearly the entire chain of command needs to go at the FBI, CIA, DOJ and just about every other department. Most of the departments need to go.
Mueller has nothing. He has indicted a lot of people around Trump for various alleged reasons not pertaining to the original charge. Were I Trump I'd not answer any question from Muller or any of his team about anything including what I had for breakfast. Screw em. That is entrapment 101 and any question Trump might answer that any other person might have answered differently will be grounds for indictment. Doesn't have to be anything provable. It just a gotch ya thing.
After the mid-terms Mueller is going to have to pound sand. If the democrats take over he will likely stay forever as a fourth branch of government sucking tax dollars off to attack every republican he can get his hands on while ignoring the democrat's gorilla in the room.
Have you considered that you guys are a bunch of f****ing morons who elected another f***ing moron and you're too f***ing stupid to realize what a mistake it was?
That had not occurred to me dawg. How bout you break it down in a way easy to unerstan fo me.
I new Trump wuz krazy when he wuz slapping lil Kim aroun. He cuda gottus kilt in nukler war with allem nukler weppons hes got aimed attus.
Then, he wooden slap thet 2 bit Putin around fer meddlin in or lection. And the news peaple wuz tellin him tha hole time he otta bust Putins balls fer scruing us outta Hitlery. She woulda slapped that bastid around and shot his planes down over ther in Syria to.
And I see you're still a lying sack of shït, jorge.
Just to be clear.
I've never seen Jorge proven to be a liar, on the other hand I've seen you proven to be a liar.
Almost forgot, I was the one that proved you were a liar and it was even in this very thread.
TFF.
#soon
Too bad JWP hasn't seen this thread so he can pull up the DOZENS of times this dope addled moron was caught in lies about his deer hunting, not to mention when a little box of Nosler bullets kicked his ass.
And I see you're still a lying sack of shït, jorge.
Put this in your pipes and smoke it. All y'all have been canonizing Napolitano. Still? Read it and weep. Numbnuts is handing Mueller "corrupt intent" on a platter because he cannot STFU. And he cannot STFU because he's convinced his ever-shrinking "base" will believe whatever misinformation he spouts. To his point, y'all DO slurp it up like a certain porn star.
(Ewww..... wipe your chins, guys! Is a LITTLE self-respect too much to ask of you?!)
Here's a little elucidation (from elsewhere) since you're [bleep] retards:
"As the gravity of Trump’s outburst becomes clear, you’ll hear his attorneys and surrogates brush it off. They’ll say that tweets prove nothing about obstruction of justice, because tweets are just words—Sessions still has his job—and tweets are public, which is the opposite of a conspiracy. But none of that matters. Legally, the tweet sheds light on a specific question: Trump’s attitude toward the administration of justice. It shows that his motivation in attacking investigations is corrupt. It illuminates everything—the scramble to protect Flynn, the efforts to corrupt Comey, the hounding of Sessions, the attempts to fire Mueller—that happened behind closed doors.
Speaking of the "CampFire" retard... looks who's back
Oh, but wait! Fake news, fake news! Now you call all rest your brainwashed lil' heads in peace tonight.
"We have somebody in what I call the failing New York Times that's talking about he's part of the resistance inside the Trump administration," Trump said. "This is what we have to deal with. And you know the dishonest media ... But it's really a disgrace."
JeffO, I remember a while back you had a horrible vehicle accident and you suffered a head injury and concussion. You may want to read the following:
Identifying Behavior Problems Head injury survivors may experience a range of neuropsychological problems following a traumatic brain injury. Depending on the part of the brain affected and the severity of the injury, the result on any one individual can vary greatly. Personality changes, memory and judgement deficits, lack of impulse control, and poor concentration are all common. Behavioral changes can be stressful for families and caregivers who must learn to adapt their communication techniques, established relationships, and expectations of what the impaired person can or cannot do.
In some cases, extended cognitive and behavioral rehabilitation in a residential or outpatient setting will be necessary to regain certain skills. A neuropsychologist also may be helpful in assessing cognitive deficits. However, over the long term both the survivor and any involved family members will need to explore what combination of strategies work best to improve the functional and behavioral skills of the impaired individual.
Personality Changes Even a person who makes a “good” recovery may go through some personality changes. Family members must be careful to avoid always comparing the impaired person with the way he/she “used to be.” Personality changes are often an exaggeration of the person's pre-injury personality, in which personality traits become intensified. Some changes can be quite striking. It may be, for example, that the head injury survivor used to be easygoing, energetic, and thoughtful and now seems easily angered, self-absorbed, and unable to show enthusiasm for anything. Nonetheless, try not to criticize or make fun of the impaired person’s deficits. This is sure to make the person feel frustrated, angry, or embarrassed.
Memory Problems Head injury survivors may experience short-term problems and/or amnesia related to certain periods of time. Generally, new learning presents the greatest challenge to memory or remembering. In contrast, pre-injury knowledge is more easily retained.
The ability to focus and concentrate are keys to addressing some short-term memory problems.
Keep distractions (e.g., music, noise) to a minimum and focus on one task at a time.
Have the individual repeat the name of a person or object, after you, if memory impairment is severe.
Whenever possible, have the person write down key information (e.g., appointments, phone messages, list of chores).
Keep to routines. Keep household objects in the same place. Use the same route to walk to the mailbox or bus stop.
If getting lost is a problem, you can label doors or color code doors inside the house, or hang arrows to indicate directions. When going out, the person should be accompanied initially to ensure the route is understood. A simple map can be sketched from the bus stop to the house. And make sure that the person always carries his/her address and emergency phone numbers.
Hillary will inaugurated next week after we cart Trump off to prison!
All brought about by an "anonymous source"...
Keep drinkin' the daily Koolaid.
Dumbass.
It wouldn't surprise me at all if Trump had several insiders working against him. He necessarily had to bring some swamp members aboard his team. He's purged a few already and over time he'll purge a few more. Even with the resistance of the democrats, the media, our justice system, our intelligence community and insiders, he is still winning!
It would not surprise me at all to learn that the insider in the Times article is Sessions.
I wasn't a Trump fan, but he has won me over. The guy flat out gets schidt done.
Jejjoooooo, why are ALL of the sources of the MSM ALWAYS anonymous?
It seems that ONLY the media's sources are anonymous, the average/everyday run of the mill village idiots[such as yourself,LeRoi,Nortwoman etc] have no problem with NOT being anonymous.
Never any named sources from the MSM, think about that, much like JeffO in Wonderland, no?
Definition of anonymous 1 : of unknown authorship or origin
an anonymous tip
2 : not named or identified
an anonymous author
They wish to remain anonymous.
3 : lacking individuality, distinction, or recognizability
JeffO, I remember a while back you had a horrible vehicle accident and you suffered a head injury and concussion. You may want to read the following:
Identifying Behavior Problems Head injury survivors may experience a range of neuropsychological problems following a traumatic brain injury. Depending on the part of the brain affected and the severity of the injury, the result on any one individual can vary greatly. Personality changes, memory and judgement deficits, lack of impulse control, and poor concentration are all common. Behavioral changes can be stressful for families and caregivers who must learn to adapt their communication techniques, established relationships, and expectations of what the impaired person can or cannot do.
In some cases, extended cognitive and behavioral rehabilitation in a residential or outpatient setting will be necessary to regain certain skills. A neuropsychologist also may be helpful in assessing cognitive deficits. However, over the long term both the survivor and any involved family members will need to explore what combination of strategies work best to improve the functional and behavioral skills of the impaired individual.
Personality Changes Even a person who makes a “good” recovery may go through some personality changes. Family members must be careful to avoid always comparing the impaired person with the way he/she “used to be.” Personality changes are often an exaggeration of the person's pre-injury personality, in which personality traits become intensified. Some changes can be quite striking. It may be, for example, that the head injury survivor used to be easygoing, energetic, and thoughtful and now seems easily angered, self-absorbed, and unable to show enthusiasm for anything. Nonetheless, try not to criticize or make fun of the impaired person’s deficits. This is sure to make the person feel frustrated, angry, or embarrassed.
Memory Problems Head injury survivors may experience short-term problems and/or amnesia related to certain periods of time. Generally, new learning presents the greatest challenge to memory or remembering. In contrast, pre-injury knowledge is more easily retained.
The ability to focus and concentrate are keys to addressing some short-term memory problems.
Keep distractions (e.g., music, noise) to a minimum and focus on one task at a time.
Have the individual repeat the name of a person or object, after you, if memory impairment is severe.
Whenever possible, have the person write down key information (e.g., appointments, phone messages, list of chores).
Keep to routines. Keep household objects in the same place. Use the same route to walk to the mailbox or bus stop.
If getting lost is a problem, you can label doors or color code doors inside the house, or hang arrows to indicate directions. When going out, the person should be accompanied initially to ensure the route is understood. A simple map can be sketched from the bus stop to the house. And make sure that the person always carries his/her address and emergency phone numbers.
You forgot the part where he fell of a ladder and of course his addiction to THC... I recommend a Luger, one bullet and a dark room
Since JeffO is yet to get on my ignore, I'll quote myself to save him the search for truth:
Originally Posted by hatari
My take on this:
The New York Times has NEVER published an "anonymous" Op Ed piece that I am aware of. Ever! They are the New York Times. You want an Op Ed column space, you pen your name to it or put it in the NY Post or someplace else. The NYT has always been "We are the Times, bitch! Play by our rules". So why this and why now and who might this be, and what does this mean?
Why this and why now?
It obvious that this is to corroborate Bob Woodward's E-Book, which is out at the beginning of the off year election cycle. Labor Day kicks off the serious campaigning, and this is another attempt to embarrass and wound Trump and Trump's momentum. Mattis already is on record that Woodward is full of crap with his accusations, so the Left is doubling down.
The Kavanaugh confirmation is a done deal, and the hearings are this week. The Dems know Kavanaugh has the votes and can't stop his confirmation. Their base demands something happen, so the Dems will chastise Kavanaugh publicly, then the votes will confirm him. This is a distraction from the Dems failure to take the WH in 2016 and have THEIR 2nd nominee lined up for confirmation on the Supreme Court. Kavanaugh is an in your face reminder of Hillary's failure to sweep the Left into power for good. It hurts...them.
Who Wrote this?
Somebody who wants the Left and the RINOs to love them, BUT...they don't feel strongly enough to go public with their name and lose their job. Supposedly a "Senior Cabinate Member". My ass, a "Senior" cabinet member would leave and go back to making millions in the private sector. This worm wants to keep his/her job and government pension, but seems to need approval from the Left and Swamp Rinos. I'm betting that somebody went to the McCain Love Fest and got criticized for working for Trump by the those their, be it the Bushes, McCain's, and their assorted brethren or whomever and felt like they needed a character rehab quick like.
What is the message? "We really are good conservatives and we are working frantically to save the world from Trump so please love on me. I'm a good guy. Don't be angry and say mean things about me. Don't kick me out of your restaurant or yell at me from the sage of Hamilton. I'm just a Snowflake saving you from the nasty Trump".
What Does This Mean?
Nothing. Absolutely nothing. EVERY President has feuds with his cabinet. There are often leaks. Remember the Watergate Plumbers? Nixon had leakers. Remember GWB feud with Colin Powell and others over Iraq? You really think Bill Clinton didn't have his cabinet telling him to stop slinging his seed all over Washington? Reagan and Iran Contra? Hell, most of Reagan's stance on the Soviet Union was rebuffed by his cabinet. Reagan's famous "tear down this wall" speech was fought against.
You think Carter didn't have detractors over the Panama Canal? Iran hostages? Salt II? Rhodesia?
FDR is famous for pitting one Cabinet members against one another. He thought the competition brought out the best in them and that the best would rise to the occasion. He purposefully stirred things up.
Having dissent and difference of opinion is NORMAL! Any of you watch the movie "Darkest Hour" about Churchill? While this is Hollywood's interpretation, it shows the very real struggles that Churchill had with Halifax and Chamberlin within his War Cabinet. This stuff is NORMAL.
What is not normal is the leaks by every dollar chasing publicity whore that steps foot in Trumps White House. Part of this is the fact that Trump is a Washington outsider, and didn't have a loyal entourage to bring with such as Nixon from his years as VP, as did LBJ for his years in the Senate, as Carter from his years as Gov of Georgia, as Reagan from his years as Gov of California, GHWB as CIA and VP, as Clinton from his years as Gov of Arkansas, GWB brought his guys from Texas and Obama had Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi as well as Bill and Hillary fill his cabinet with the choices the Party wanted.
Trump didn't have a group to bring in, and didn't want the Swamp dwellers, but practicality forces some of that upon him. Being and outsider, acting like and outsider, and doing things unconventionally drives the Swamp crazy. They can't handle it. They only know how business is done in the Swamp. Trump brings in a new style, a new way of doing things and it makes them uncomfortable. He works outside the Swamp box. They don't like it.
What will be the end result of this? Nothing. This is just a mere example of these unique times where the MSM is completely partisan and any pretense of straight journalism has vanished. The Left has been cast out of power on the National level, and increasingly so at the state level. Politics in heavy Blue states if becoming laughable as California goes complete socialist, Chicago goes lawless as Illinois goes bankrupt. Former Blue strong holds such as West Virginia, Pennsylvania and Michigan and Wisconsin are purple to Red. In the Deep South, the Left prays that liberal migration to Charlotte and Rahliegh turn NC purple, or another zillion New Yorkers and Latinos move Florida Red. Otherwise, the Left has nothing to feel good about. Their response is to attack through their only means of power which is the media and press. The New York Times and Washington Post especially have a problem with Trump's unconventional style. Trump is supposed to be in their business section. Trump is supposed to be in the entertainment section. Trump is supposed to be in their Style Section. Trump is NOT supposed to be on page 1 or in the Op Ed Section everyday, and yet he is and they hate it.
Unemployment is super low,the market is super high, inflation is low, our standing in the world is stronger. Who - that is not already anti-Trump - is going to believe Trump is crazy when everything he touches right now comes up roses? You want me to believe Trump is crazy? The Norks are not flinging missiles or nuking mountains right now. Mexico and Canada have agreed to new trade deals. Europe and China are talking with us for more of the same. Our military is getting revived, the energy sector is booming.
All this and the Dems expect the voters to turn on Trump? Dream on! This is another charade, another attempt to fling mud on Trump in order to get something to stick. The stench of desperation abounds on the Left. More reports coming in that the big Blue Wave isn't going to happen. No House take over. No impeachment, and 6 more years of Trump. Sad to be them.
Jell0, so what do you think about the presidents speech?
Lowest unemployment in 49 years. Economic growth headed for 4.7%. I thought your hero the Zero said 1.9% growth was here to stay. Do you know anything of which i speak, or is your brain only limited to thoughts of illusion about Russian collusion?
Hey, hes going to protect our SS and Medicare. Life isnt so bad under a truthful president.
You do know that one track minds are a symptom of mental illness. I worry that you cant see the forest for the tree of collusion.
Some times its good to just get out of the fixation rut and look around a bit and take note of stuff going on in your country. Hillary is gone and many folks are just getting along fine with better jobs and reduced taxes. Many are going hunting and fishing and building and propagating.
And there you are, a one trick pony stuck in your mental condition of hoping for salvation from a enigma you chase called a Trump conviction.
You really need to seek help for your condition, or you will live in misery from your unresolvable and pitiful addiction.
You get one chance at a life on this earth. You need to back off, look around, and get one.
Please, remember the time you got fixated on going up a ladder? What happened when you got to the top and just kept on going. Thats what you are doing now with this Mueller deal and the Trump dossier Hillary paid for. She didnt mean to screw suckers like you with it. It was designed to screw Trump.
Jejjoooooo, why are ALL of the sources of the MSM ALWAYS anonymous?
It seems that ONLY the media's sources are anonymous, the average/everyday run of the mill village idiots[such as yourself,LeRoi,Nortwoman etc] have no problem with NOT being anonymous.
Never any named sources from the MSM, think about that, much like JeffO in Wonderland, no?
Definition of anonymous 1 : of unknown authorship or origin
an anonymous tip
2 : not named or identified
an anonymous author
They wish to remain anonymous.
3 : lacking individuality, distinction, or recognizability
the anonymous faces in the crowd
I can’t even stop a vehicle based solely on an anonymous complaint, but now some are willing to try to use it to “take down” POTUS?
"Asked whether Mueller’s investigation will demonstrate there was collusion, Papadopoulos said he doesn’t know but “all I can say is that my testimony might have helped move something towards that.”"
There’s no doubt that there WAS COLLUSION but it’s not between POTUS and Russia, the collusion was between the DNC, obongo’s administration and HRC.
You and many other obongo sycophants are going to be very disappointed when your idols are sent to gitmo. I’ll take great pleasure in watching the liberal, back stabbing, FISA abusing, Russia colluding Democrats get their crooked and constitution hating asses thrown in jail. I’d prefer they save the tax payers money and save their family the humiliation and suck start a pistol.
"Asked whether Mueller’s investigation will demonstrate there was collusion, Papadopoulos said he doesn’t know but “all I can say is that my testimony might have helped move something towards that.”"
JeffO, I remember a while back you had a horrible vehicle accident and you suffered a head injury and concussion. You may want to read the following:
Identifying Behavior Problems Head injury survivors may experience a range of neuropsychological problems following a traumatic brain injury. Depending on the part of the brain affected and the severity of the injury, the result on any one individual can vary greatly. Personality changes, memory and judgement deficits, lack of impulse control, and poor concentration are all common. Behavioral changes can be stressful for families and caregivers who must learn to adapt their communication techniques, established relationships, and expectations of what the impaired person can or cannot do.
In some cases, extended cognitive and behavioral rehabilitation in a residential or outpatient setting will be necessary to regain certain skills. A neuropsychologist also may be helpful in assessing cognitive deficits. However, over the long term both the survivor and any involved family members will need to explore what combination of strategies work best to improve the functional and behavioral skills of the impaired individual.
Personality Changes Even a person who makes a “good” recovery may go through some personality changes. Family members must be careful to avoid always comparing the impaired person with the way he/she “used to be.” Personality changes are often an exaggeration of the person's pre-injury personality, in which personality traits become intensified. Some changes can be quite striking. It may be, for example, that the head injury survivor used to be easygoing, energetic, and thoughtful and now seems easily angered, self-absorbed, and unable to show enthusiasm for anything. Nonetheless, try not to criticize or make fun of the impaired person’s deficits. This is sure to make the person feel frustrated, angry, or embarrassed.
Memory Problems Head injury survivors may experience short-term problems and/or amnesia related to certain periods of time. Generally, new learning presents the greatest challenge to memory or remembering. In contrast, pre-injury knowledge is more easily retained.
The ability to focus and concentrate are keys to addressing some short-term memory problems.
Keep distractions (e.g., music, noise) to a minimum and focus on one task at a time.
Have the individual repeat the name of a person or object, after you, if memory impairment is severe.
Whenever possible, have the person write down key information (e.g., appointments, phone messages, list of chores).
Keep to routines. Keep household objects in the same place. Use the same route to walk to the mailbox or bus stop.
If getting lost is a problem, you can label doors or color code doors inside the house, or hang arrows to indicate directions. When going out, the person should be accompanied initially to ensure the route is understood. A simple map can be sketched from the bus stop to the house. And make sure that the person always carries his/her address and emergency phone numbers.
I'd also add that since the accident, Jeffo attacks members as cock suckers, cum guzzlers, etc. I would suggest the brain injury is exposing latent homosexual tendencies.
"Asked whether Mueller’s investigation will demonstrate there was collusion, Papadopoulos said he doesn’t know but “all I can say is that my testimony might have helped move something towards that.”"
Given that history shows us it is far more deadly to be a Clinton associate than a Trump associate, who might he have the goods on? Another Clinon ally dead under suspicious circumstances.
If he's truly going to be a cooperating witness, as this says, then we should get to the Truth (capilized to demonstrate I'm talking about the actual truth, not the alt.truth).
Good stuff Maynard. If you care about the Truth anyway. You alt.truthers should just leave your fingers in your ears and go LALALALALALA! It's worked great for ya so far.
Manafort's cooperation gets him 10 years max instead of the 305 years he could have gotten. Even though he forfeited 46 million worth of assets in this plea deal he will still be able to keep some assets for his family.
He's already been singing in the DC grand jury today.
They all cooperate against Trump at some point. Nobody is going to jail for this scumbag. Not even his children.
Manafort's cooperation gets him 10 years max instead of the 305 years he could have gotten. Even though he forfeited 46 million worth of assets in this plea deal he will still be able to keep some assets for his family.
He's already been singing in the DC grand jury today.
They all cooperate against Trump at some point. Nobody is going to jail for this scumbag. Not even his children.
Manafort's cooperation gets him 10 years max instead of the 305 years he could have gotten. Even though he forfeited 46 million worth of assets in this plea deal he will still be able to keep some assets for his family.
He's already been singing in the DC grand jury today.
They all cooperate against Trump at some point. Nobody is going to jail for this scumbag. Not even his children.
Originally Posted by RollingThunder on 9-4-18
Indictments are coming. A few of Trump's crew will get pinched this week. Probably Friday.
Manafort's cooperation gets him 10 years max instead of the 305 years he could have gotten. Even though he forfeited 46 million worth of assets in this plea deal he will still be able to keep some assets for his family.
He's already been singing in the DC grand jury today.
They all cooperate against Trump at some point. Nobody is going to jail for this scumbag. Not even his children.
Originally Posted by RollingThunder on 9-4-18
Indictments are coming. A few of Trump's crew will get pinched this week. Probably Friday.
So which Friday is it ass munching retard?
You're not going to like how this ends. Unless you like the sight of Trump tossing salads in prison for the rest of his life. Well, you probably would like to watch that.
You're not going to like how this ends. Unless you like the sight of Trump tossing salads in prison for the rest of his life. Well, you probably would like to watch that.
Removing a duly elected president because you don't like him, and everything is based on lies to remove him might get your side a bit more than you bargain for too.
You're not going to like how this ends. Unless you like the sight of Trump tossing salads in prison for the rest of his life. Well, you probably would like to watch that.
Removing a duly elected president because you don't like him, and everything is based on lies to remove him might get your side a bit more than you bargain for too.
Keep kickin' that sleeping giant.
Dumbass.
What do you suppose Manafort told Mueller that shaved 295 years off of his likely prison sentence? Tell us, genius. There's only one person higher on the Trump campaign food chain than Manafort.
Your boy Manafort just served up your other boy Trump to Mueller. Enjoy the fallout from that, princess.
Whoa! Nobody has any idea what Manafort may have told Mueller or what evidence Mueller has actually has gathered. One thing is certain, Trump will either be cleared of wrongdoing or crucified when Mueller finally lays his cards on the table, until that happens, it's all just speculation.
Whoa! Nobody has any idea what Manafort may have told Mueller or what evidence Mueller has actually has gathered. One thing is certain, Trump will either be cleared of wrongdoing or crucified when Mueller finally lays his cards on the table, until then that happens, it's all just speculation.
Well based on the lies, deception, setups, bias, and leaking based on facts revealed of Strozk, Page, Comey, McCabe, Obama, Hillary, Ohrt, and even texts revealing purposeful leaks to damage and get rid of a sitting POTUS recently made public, speculation as to who colluded with whom is pretty evident.
Trump will be charged as a co-conspirator under 18 U.S.C. 371 in addition to being liable for the following crimes as being part of the conspiracy with the others that have already pleaded guilty and are cooperating:
Election Fraud Wire Fraud Bribery Bank Fraud Computer crimes - Theft Computer crimes - Espionage Extortion Obstruction Hindering Apprehension/Prosecution Witness Tampering Perjury Lying to Congress Making False Statements RICO Money Laundering Tax Evasion
The Special Counsel will bring these charges.
Alas, there won't be a treason charge as fitting as that would be.
There will be additional charges out of the SDNY involving the Trump Organization and campaign related felonies.
Trump will be charged as a co-conspirator under 18 U.S.C. 371 in addition to being liable for the following crimes as being part of the conspiracy with the others that have already pleaded guilty and are cooperating:
Election Fraud Wire Fraud Bribery Bank Fraud Computer crimes - Theft Computer crimes - Espionage Extortion Obstruction Hindering Apprehension/Prosecution Witness Tampering Perjury Lying to Congress Making False Statements RICO Money Laundering Tax Evasion
Alas, there won't be a treason charge as fitting as that would be.
Trump will be charged as a co-conspirator under 18 U.S.C. 371 in addition to being liable for the following crimes as being part of the conspiracy with the others that have already pleaded guilty and are cooperating:
Election Fraud Wire Fraud Bribery Bank Fraud Computer crimes - Theft Computer crimes - Espionage Extortion Obstruction Hindering Apprehension/Prosecution Witness Tampering Perjury Lying to Congress Making False Statements RICO Money Laundering Tax Evasion
Alas, there won't be a treason charge as fitting as that would be.
Yeah, you are real smart.
Hell, Mueller ought to be paying you millions.
Got proof, do ya?
LOL.
Dumbass.
Just watch carefully, genius. Nobody said you had to like what's coming. I'm quite certain that you won't.
Trump will be charged as a co-conspirator under 18 U.S.C. 371 in addition to being liable for the following crimes as being part of the conspiracy with the others that have already pleaded guilty and are cooperating:
Election Fraud Wire Fraud Bribery Bank Fraud Computer crimes - Theft Computer crimes - Espionage Extortion Obstruction Hindering Apprehension/Prosecution Witness Tampering Perjury Lying to Congress Making False Statements RICO Money Laundering Tax Evasion
The Special Counsel will bring these charges.
Alas, there won't be a treason charge as fitting as that would be.
There will be additional charges out of the SDNY involving the Trump Organization and campaign related felonies.
Lol, You been watching way to many Matlock reruns.
You guys are much more tolerant than me. Why bother with liberal commies. If logic and facts were going to influence them they wouldn't be liberal commies in the first place. Line em up and shoot them.
You guys are much more tolerant than me. Why bother with liberal commies. If logic and facts were going to influence them they wouldn't be liberal commies in the first place. Line em up and shoot them.
We’ll run into the same problems that other nations had when dealing with an overwhelming number of corpses. 😉
You guys are much more tolerant than me. Why bother with liberal commies. If logic and facts were going to influence them they wouldn't be liberal commies in the first place. Line em up and shoot them.
Not exactly a strict Constitutionalist now are ya? Mass murder and whatever it takes to get your way, 'cuz it's all about you.
You guys are much more tolerant than me. Why bother with liberal commies. If logic and facts were going to influence them they wouldn't be liberal commies in the first place. Line em up and shoot them.
Not exactly a strict Constitutionalist now are ya? Mass murder and whatever it takes to get your way, 'cuz it's all about you.
Of course he is.
The constitution is what our country is founded on. It provided for the 2nd Amendment to protect our republic when Commie fuggs try and do away with the constitution, and destroy our republic.
Have you considered a very practical reason to get rid of Comey?
Think about this. Trump slides into office and finds that people working in the highest levels of government are all appointed by Obama, and are political partisan hacks leaking info and put in place to 1.) aid Hillary, but she's not on office 2.) are now Partisans acting as saboteurs "behind enemy lines"
Trump realizes that he must clean house. He gets the word from Sessions that Comey is not going to help, and will probably protect those imbedded, and needs to go.
This is all very plausible. For those of you not happy with Trump's progress so far, take this scenario to heart. Obama appointed a lot of little Progressive, Socialist anti-Capitalist bastards throughout the government and to the courts. The can do massive damage and it might be a monumental undertaking to clean that Obama crap up. In doing so, Trump can restock the government with people not bent on the destruction of America as we know. First, get someone at the FBI that will follow the Rule of law and not the Rule of Partisans, second, clean out the moles, leakers, and Progressive operatives still working for Obama, Clinton and Soros and that cause.
For the sake of intellectual exercise, let us NON Trolls look at the original humble post and see where we are a year and a half later
Coney is gone, and new recently declassified documents shine a bad light on the FBU. Leakers and Swsmp creatures remain a problem. Is this when the house cleaning starts? Question for those non trolls willing to think it over.
Have you considered a very practical reason to get rid of Comey?
Think about this. Trump slides into office and finds that people working in the highest levels of government are all appointed by Obama, and are political partisan hacks leaking info and put in place to 1.) aid Hillary, but she's not on office 2.) are now Partisans acting as saboteurs "behind enemy lines"
Trump realizes that he must clean house. He gets the word from Sessions that Comey is not going to help, and will probably protect those imbedded, and needs to go.
This is all very plausible. For those of you not happy with Trump's progress so far, take this scenario to heart. Obama appointed a lot of little Progressive, Socialist anti-Capitalist bastards throughout the government and to the courts. The can do massive damage and it might be a monumental undertaking to clean that Obama crap up. In doing so, Trump can restock the government with people not bent on the destruction of America as we know. First, get someone at the FBI that will follow the Rule of law and not the Rule of Partisans, second, clean out the moles, leakers, and Progressive operatives still working for Obama, Clinton and Soros and that cause.
For the sake of intellectual exercise, let us NON Trolls look at the original humble post and see where we are a year and a half later
Coney is gone, and new recently declassified documents shine a bad light on the FBU. Leakers and Swsmp creatures remain a problem. Is this when the house cleaning starts? Question for those non trolls willing to think it over.
It would be impossible to clean the houses in question. They have to be torn down and rebuilt while an honest few carry on business from a temporary structure.
You guys are much more tolerant than me. Why bother with liberal commies. If logic and facts were going to influence them they wouldn't be liberal commies in the first place. Line em up and shoot them.
Not exactly a strict Constitutionalist now are ya? Mass murder and whatever it takes to get your way, 'cuz it's all about you.
Manafort's cooperation gets him 10 years max instead of the 305 years he could have gotten. Even though he forfeited 46 million worth of assets in this plea deal he will still be able to keep some assets for his family.
He's already been singing in the DC grand jury today.
They all cooperate against Trump at some point. Nobody is going to jail for this scumbag. Not even his children.
You don't have a fawking clue what he said or IF he said anything at all. You liberals are dumber than a bag of hammers.
And ole Jell-O is going to be eating some rotten crow very soon, I hope he stews in it. lol
Jell0, we would like to know, in your perpfessional opinion, if we give the Kavanaugh indictment dossier to Mueller, can he in 1 1\2 years get the goods on the lowlife constitutional puke and save Amerka from another Reaganesque type conservative cowboy nutjob?
I mean, when you consider the possibilities, what is that feeling that runs down yer laigs?
"On Thursday night, Cohen tweeted: “Good for @MichaelCohen212 for providing critical information to the #MuellerInvestigation without a cooperation agreement. No one should question his integrity, veracity or loyalty to his family and country over @POTUS @realDonaldTrump.”
What in the WORLD could that mean? Loyalty to country over Trump?! How is that even possible?
You guys DO realize that the whole "Rigged Witch Hunt!" narrative depends for its very existence in the idea that Trump is just an innocent victim of 17 Angry Democrats in a Deep State conspiracy ..... and if the lying piece of shït is, well, LYING..... then it means you gullible blowhards have been played like fools by Trump and the alt.media..... right?
If not, all y'all better start the whole "realizing" thang pretty quick here. Otherwise you're gonna be branded as fools forevermore. Well, that ship has sailed, haha, but you can at least bluster and PRETEND otherwise if you get started with "realizing" ASAP.
I'm just sayin'.
Or, just play it out to the bitter end like the stubborn [bleep] you are. That's ok too, and boy is it amusing to those of us who "realized" long ago.
You guys DO realize that the whole "Rigged Witch Hunt!" narrative depends for its very existence in the idea that Trump is just an innocent victim of 17 Angry Democrats in a Deep State conspiracy ..... and if the lying piece of shït is, well, LYING..... then it means you gullible blowhards have been played like fools by Trump and the alt.media..... right?
If not, all y'all better start the whole "realizing" thang pretty quick here. Otherwise you're gonna be branded as fools forevermore. Well, that ship has sailed, haha, but you can at least bluster and PRETEND otherwise if you get started with "realizing" ASAP.
I'm just sayin'.
Or, just play it out to the bitter end like the stubborn [bleep] you are. That's ok too, and boy is it amusing to those of us who "realized" long ago.
Love ya! Don't go changin'. Smooch.
Remember how President Trump was hounded for expressing doubts about the accuracy of the CIA findings that the Kremlin interfered in the election to help Trump defeat Hillary Clinton? Well, Trump was right again. Peter Strzok and James Comey felt the same way. Strzok and Comey weren’t as clear in their public statements.
In newly obtained emails, bureau officials noted there was not enough intelligence to support the January 2017 findings by the CIA that the Kremlin interfered in the presidential election with the specific intent of electing President Trump over Hillary Clinton, reported Sara A. Carter.
Strzok sent an email to the FBI press office stating, “We did not have information to differentiate what their ultimate goal was.” He noted that Comey gave the Senate Intelligence Committee the same answer.
“In other words, the activity is one-sided and clear but we can’t say the sole and primary purpose was specifically intended to help someone, hurt someone else or undermine the process. The reality is all three,” he said in the email.
The extent of their disagreement over the report was not known until now.
HE WANTED TO PROVE COLLUSION ANYWAY Although Strzok didn’t believe there was enough evidence to prove Russia wanted Trump in office, he was intent on proving the Trump campaign colluded with Russia. Both he and Comey tried to make the unverified dossier part of the Intelligence Community Assessment.
Strzok’s texts and emails from December 2016 through January 2017 also suggest the FBI was deeply concerned about information being shared with other intelligence agencies, as well as with White House officials.
Strzok sent yet another text suggesting he was secretly manipulating a plot against the President: “I hope this upcoming presidency doesn’t fill my years with regret wondering what we might have done differently.”
The agents also didn’t want to share too much information with the President.
They are like vicious Keystone Kops.
Remember how President Trump was hounded for expressing doubts about the accuracy of the CIA findings that the Kremlin interfered in the election to help Trump defeat Hillary Clinton? Well, Trump was right again. Peter Strzok and James Comey felt the same way. Strzok and Comey weren’t as clear in their public statements.
In newly obtained emails, bureau officials noted there was not enough intelligence to support the January 2017 findings by the CIA that the Kremlin interfered in the presidential election with the specific intent of electing President Trump over Hillary Clinton, reported Sara A. Carter.
Strzok sent an email to the FBI press office stating, “We did not have information to differentiate what their ultimate goal was.” He noted that Comey gave the Senate Intelligence Committee the same answer.
“In other words, the activity is one-sided and clear but we can’t say the sole and primary purpose was specifically intended to help someone, hurt someone else or undermine the process. The reality is all three,” he said in the email.
The extent of their disagreement over the report was not known until now.
HE WANTED TO PROVE COLLUSION ANYWAY Although Strzok didn’t believe there was enough evidence to prove Russia wanted Trump in office, he was intent on proving the Trump campaign colluded with Russia. Both he and Comey tried to make the unverified dossier part of the Intelligence Community Assessment.
Strzok’s texts and emails from December 2016 through January 2017 also suggest the FBI was deeply concerned about information being shared with other intelligence agencies, as well as with White House officials.
Strzok sent yet another text suggesting he was secretly manipulating a plot against the President: “I hope this upcoming presidency doesn’t fill my years with regret wondering what we might have done differently.”
The agents also didn’t want to share too much information with the President.
Now that Kavanaugh has been confirmed, I guess it's back to Russian collusion and Mueller. JeffyO will be along in a few days to tell us that Mueller's October surprise is about to take down Trump and all the GOP candidates he's stumping for. The big, blue wave is going to wash away Trump. Pelosi will be speaker and impeachment will be at hand!
Meanwhile over at the Dem Underground, there is a growing resignation to the idea that the GOP will pick up 2-4 Senate seats and that the Dems will fall far short of taking the House. This is causing anxiety and depression as the likelihood sinks into Progressive skulls. What then? Probably a push further Left and a Mondale/Ferraro scale defeat in 2020.
Meanwhile they call Trump stupid, call him the orange dunce, an idiot, all the while he will serve 2 terms and Hillary won't. Who's stupid now?
This is interesting. I know you guys have seen it since you are such broad consumers of info and would never ever ever be the kind of dumbfücks who'd live in a "tell me what I want to hear" news bubble, but just in case.... makes sense, and as the author says, would be the ideal use of the pre-election dead zone where Mr. Mueller is constrained by DOJ policy.
Donald, being a unrepentant lying sack of shït, is in trouble if he ends up in front of a grand jury. His own lawyers have said as much. Pretty cool having a POTUS that's so blatantly dishonest. I can see why some of y'all LSOS's like him so much!
See, this is the kind of post that I find baffling. I go back and look at what Jeffy was writing at the beginning of this thread, and contrast to vulgarity laced mess he posts now, and it's as if Paddler has co-opted his account.
It's getting close to election day, and I'm sure he's a bit apprehensive, praying and hoping the historic norms bring the Dems back to power in the House. Where does that get him? Doesn't get rid of Trump. House impeachment? Senate ain't trying him. Investigations? To what end? 2020 is an easy re-elect with the Dems losing the House and the complete shattering of the Dem leadership over their failures. Should the GOP hold the House (looking more likely), will it be Prozac or wrist slitting? I worry about this guy.
JeffO, I remember a while back you had a horrible vehicle accident and you suffered a head injury and concussion. You may want to read the following:
Identifying Behavior Problems Head injury survivors may experience a range of neuropsychological problems following a traumatic brain injury. Depending on the part of the brain affected and the severity of the injury, the result on any one individual can vary greatly. Personality changes, memory and judgement deficits, lack of impulse control, and poor concentration are all common. Behavioral changes can be stressful for families and caregivers who must learn to adapt their communication techniques, established relationships, and expectations of what the impaired person can or cannot do.
In some cases, extended cognitive and behavioral rehabilitation in a residential or outpatient setting will be necessary to regain certain skills. A neuropsychologist also may be helpful in assessing cognitive deficits. However, over the long term both the survivor and any involved family members will need to explore what combination of strategies work best to improve the functional and behavioral skills of the impaired individual.
Personality Changes Even a person who makes a “good” recovery may go through some personality changes. Family members must be careful to avoid always comparing the impaired person with the way he/she “used to be.” Personality changes are often an exaggeration of the person's pre-injury personality, in which personality traits become intensified. Some changes can be quite striking. It may be, for example, that the head injury survivor used to be easygoing, energetic, and thoughtful and now seems easily angered, self-absorbed, and unable to show enthusiasm for anything. Nonetheless, try not to criticize or make fun of the impaired person’s deficits. This is sure to make the person feel frustrated, angry, or embarrassed.
Memory Problems Head injury survivors may experience short-term problems and/or amnesia related to certain periods of time. Generally, new learning presents the greatest challenge to memory or remembering. In contrast, pre-injury knowledge is more easily retained.
The ability to focus and concentrate are keys to addressing some short-term memory problems.
Keep distractions (e.g., music, noise) to a minimum and focus on one task at a time.
Have the individual repeat the name of a person or object, after you, if memory impairment is severe.
Whenever possible, have the person write down key information (e.g., appointments, phone messages, list of chores).
Keep to routines. Keep household objects in the same place. Use the same route to walk to the mailbox or bus stop.
If getting lost is a problem, you can label doors or color code doors inside the house, or hang arrows to indicate directions. When going out, the person should be accompanied initially to ensure the route is understood. A simple map can be sketched from the bus stop to the house. And make sure that the person always carries his/her address and emergency phone numbers.
I'd also add that since the accident, Jeffo attacks members as cock suckers, cum guzzlers, etc. I would suggest the brain injury is exposing latent homosexual tendencies.
See, this is the kind of post that I find baffling.
Who da fack you trying to kid? you already know and understand he's a retarded train wreck.
Originally Posted by hatari
It's getting close to election day, and I'm sure he's a bit apprehensive, praying and hoping the historic norms bring the Dems back to power in the House.
Oh it's going to be historic alright!! Fugging EPIC!!
Just for fun let's look at NJ..........Bwahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
For extra credit let's take a look at Missouri................Bwahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It's 2016 all over again! Fuggin Ground Hog Day!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This is interesting. I know you guys have seen it since you are such broad consumers of info and would never ever ever be the kind of dumbfücks who'd live in a "tell me what I want to hear" news bubble, but just in case.... makes sense, and as the author says, would be the ideal use of the pre-election dead zone where Mr. Mueller is constrained by DOJ policy.
Donald, being a unrepentant lying sack of shït, is in trouble if he ends up in front of a grand jury. His own lawyers have said as much. Pretty cool having a POTUS that's so blatantly dishonest. I can see why some of y'all LSOS's like him so much!
Jello needs to go back to smoking dope and falling off ladders...
he was better at that than predicting his crap.
Im sure he will be glad to hear Alan Gershowitz just said Muelker can subpoena Trump and Trump can wish to appear or not. He just said on Carlsen that if Mueller wished to push it the subsequent court action would take years to resolve.
I'm not surprised. This is a solid R. county, but we have a few Dems.
Several I know have been committed and life long. Over the last few decades they have softened, even changed parties, ashamed by being affiliated with that party.
At work, a staunch pro-union always Democrat voted for Truml. He changed parties for the upcoming election, tore up about it. Feeling like he left his family down, but not wanting to be a Dem. anymore.
I forsee the Dems. taking an asswhooping. These are important votes. And ones that they don't really know they had. But they are going to see them in the R. column now.
White, middle class, high school educatec, blue collar. They think they own us because they own the unions. Many aren't union, many union guys hate the unions stance. It showed up 2 years ago. It's gotten stronger.
This week, Stone’s long-running denial that he had ever discussed WikiLeaks with Trump campaign officials unraveled as the New York Times reported on an email exchange between Stone and Steve Bannon in which Stone “presented himself to Trump campaign officials ... as a conduit of inside information from WikiLeaks, Russia’s chosen repository for documents hacked from Democratic computers.”
Lies, lies, and more lies. Par for the Trumpian golf course. Y'all ELECTED a swamp.
Let's get serious. What did you have for an alternative? Another crooked New Yorker? A power hunger bitch that makes Evita Peron look humble? An alcoholic that verbally abuses everyone in her inner circle, a woman that whose own husband won't live with her?
You are really going come on this forum and tell us how Hillary Rodham Clinton is the moral and ethical superior to anyone...ANYONE...??
You might have some credibility if your Party ran Joe Biden, and you wanted to tell that Ol' Joe would have toned down the rhetoric and it would be business as useful (god forbid), maybe you'd have a modicum of street cred. Face the phoucing facts, even the Democrats hate Hillary. Got it? Let me remind you that that DEMOCRAT voters hate her so much they chose an unknown one term Senator from Illinois named Barack Hussain Obama over Hillary in 2008. They did NOT turn out for in the Rust Belt in 2016. Even DEMOCRATS HATE her! Got it?
So what you got for me, big fella? Trump sux? Trump is a liar? Trump Russia. Dude, get real! Back atcha in spades. Your Party ran the crookedest bitch in politics on planet Earth (Urth according to Gus) and she failed. You don't like Trump? Tough Chitt! Your Party blew it! Live with it! I repeat, you phoucers blew it! You let a reality show, real estate mogul beat "the smartest woman in the world". You screwed up! Now you got to live with it for EIGHT YEARS!
Take the House next week? (doubt it) Congrats. See my other post about how YOUR PARTY will phouc themselves into irrelevancy. Look at the money YOUR Party is slinging at the various races and not winning. By all traditional metrics, the Dems should take the House by 20-30, and that won't happen. Slipping in by 2-5 might be a victory, but in reality, that will be the high tide mark, barely assuming power in the House Your lack of leadership and positive message will not inspire the middle 20% of voters. Any plays to impeach, investigate or stall the Trump agenda will turn off the middle swing voters. IF the economy stalls between now and 202, all Trump needs to do is blame it on the Dems in the House, and out you go for the next dozen years. Dwell on that sobering thought. (Sober. Try it.)
Sorry to rain on your parade big boy, but your cut and paste campaigns are predictable and shallow. It reeks of desperation. What do you do should the GOP turn back historic norms and keep the House? Double up on your Vicodin? Grow more weed for personal consumption. Whatcha gonna troll us on? Trump lied? Trump is crooked? WHO DID YOU HAVE TO OFFER AS AN ALTERNATIVE? Your Party invested EVERYTHING into Hilalry Rodham Clinton, and with her failure, your Party is politically bankrupt. Ponder that.Your Party dropped the ball, it was 16 years in the making and you failed the test, and now you need to take your medicine.
Actually, great advice for you. Please, take your medicine. I mean that.
The walls are closing in on this House of Lies Trump spent a lifetime building around himself. It's almost pitiful to watch. One after another; lies lies lies. Gosh golly, could he be lying about collusion, too?! Naaaaah. That's just big ol' Angry Democrat Rigged Witch Hunt.
Did any of you actually believe the things you used to pay lip service to? Such as: words matter... the rule of law... actions have consequences... only dumbass sheeple let themselves be manipulated by the media... and stupid games should win stupid prizes? I mean *I* believed those things, and one reason I used to come debate you guys here was I THOUGHT I was among others who also believed that.
It was all a buncha CRAP. You have no moral compass. You aren't patriots. You don't believe in any of that stuff. You're just conspiracy-addled pawns of the media.
Couldn't be more disappointed in all y'all. Without a functioning "Right" we are well and truly fücked. Good job guys.
Now prove me wrong by locating your compasses, your brains, and your [bleep] manhood again once Mueller rams the PINO's lies up his ass. I dare ya. But you won't. You'll just whine and make excuses and blame everyone except who's actually to blame: Trump, and your own dumb asses.
Jell0, did you get the news? Flynn flipped on Trump and Mueller has Trump by the nuts.
He will be gone and Hillary will be in like Flynn.
True patriots will take over and we can have open borders, caravans from central America, unlimited muzzie immigration, more synthetic drugs from China, .....
The DNC will rule and steal the nomination from people like Sanders again. They can go back to surveiling Rs again. They can go back to robbing folks like Seth Rich again. More Ron Browns will go down. More Palestinians will work for Wasserman again and download the dims congressmens computers drives and spirit them out of the US again. We can increase our debt by $10 trillion again in 8 years. We can donate more money to little Kim and get missiles flying again. We vcan take Assad out and expand the moslem caliphate. We can take Russian migs out over Syria as she wishes, and see if Putins missles are more accurate than Kims. Yep, its comforting to know your patriots who the deep state NWO 8ne percenters will run things again and have Citigroup and the other banks and muzzy nations help finance the DNC and Clintons again.
You were rite again.
I gotta hand it to you. You saw through Trumps bs. Now you can be happy, the US will slide back into a dimocommie mess.
The swamp will carry on the investigation as long as Trump is in office. There will never be any charges. To be clear, nearly every politician, including most republicans, are the swamp. They all want Trump gone, I'm sure right down to the VP. We all know this has nothing to do with Russia, lets move on from that. Its simply hatred of Trump. Is it even a secret anymore? Today CNN admits that the investigation is simply a "check" on Trump, and they take pride in it. Unbelievable.https://www.cnn.com/2018/12/06/politics/rosenstein-comey-firing-obstruction-probe/index.html
Trumps "Witch Hunt" label is spot on. Exactly what it is.
Sessions can kiss my arss. Bama has been such a political disappointment. Its obvious that our IQ is low.
Individual 1 is tangibly panicking as the walls close in. He's in a world of shït, as are Kushner, Don Jr., etc..... The conspiracy against Amerca's democracy has begun to come into full view (except for you retards), and it's pretty clear Individual 1 was fully versed in it.
I'll reiterate that my interests start and stop with collusion in the attack on our democracy. Election fraud- a felony he clearly engaged in- is a big "meh". Obstruction of justice, I can write off as the actions of a politically-naive self-professed counterpuncher doin' his thing, albeit unbelievably STUPIDLY.
But if Individual 1 was part and parcel of the attack*, there's no punishment too strong for the traitorous son of a bitch.
*(hint for the retards: he was)
You will also note, or would if you were not so bleepin' retarded, that waaaay back at the beginning of all this I stated that one huge reason collusion was a problem is the leverage it gave the Kremlin over Individual 1. Now you see that in the flesh in the Moscow Trump "Tower of Lies" (I just made that up, damn I'm good).... just from THAT lie, the Kremlin has had the ability to cast his presidency (sic) into chaos and ruin. That's called leverage, and it's just the tip of the iceberg. Anyway- I called it 2 years ago, y'all mocked the idea. How's my ass taste? Hint: I ate fish last night.
Funny how all they get on anyone is a "lying" charge.
How about Comey, Strzok, Page, McCabe, Clapper, Brennan... and the rest?
When are they going to be charged with "lying"?
They're not going to ever be charged with anything. They are going to laugh their way to the bank with their book deals while Trump and his family members are imprisoned and their assets liquidated under the forfeiture laws - just like Manafort's were.
You seem to be unable to understand how this works. Trump will be taken out by his very own hand-picked administration.
Trump is too much of a weakling to stop it from happening. But he'll give everyone funny nicknames and send mean tweets along the way. So he'll have that going for him.
fascinating that every time there is a new development in the investigation, the righteous can only respond with high-school level insults and nothing factual, tangible or even remotely relevant, much less credible. I guess that's your only defense for your fearless leader.
RickyD, you seem like a real person. Want to bet me a box of bullets that before the midterms in 2018, it'll be shown that campaign members were in collusion with Russia?
It's too bad you lost this bet. We could have had another thread on how opening boxes eludes you.
Its funny every Liberal Socialust Democrat sock puppet is on this thread. And they all take part in the rotation of guest star appearances on here . Tag teaming off each like a low rate high school gymnasium wrestling event.
They had Comey by the balls. The fact that his next closed door session was postponed until the 17th tells me everything. The pos Rinos, INCLUDING ALL HAT NO CATTLE PRETENDER TREY GOWDY are complicit in the Trump witch hunt.
There's been plenty of time to get the work done over the last 2 years. Now, in the face of the dems taking over the house, Rinos are still injecting delays. And, in case you haven't noticed, the only recipients of indictments or people going to jail are Trump's people.
Wake the fugk up, people. These fugking Rinos are not our friends.
[Cohen] declined in the interview to answer specific questions about the Mueller investigation “out of respect for process." ”I don’t want to jeopardize any of their investigations,” he said.
But when asked if he thinks the president is telling the truth about the Russia probe, Cohen replied simply, “No.”
".... one of the hopes that I (Cohen) have out of the punishment that I’ve received as well as the cooperation that I have given I will be remembered in history as helping to bring this country back together.
“I will not be the villain of his story,” he said
The villain of this story is named "Individual-1" and he has made a pure monkey out of y'all, along with your gutless enabling "media".
".... one of the hopes that I (Cohen) have out of the punishment that I’ve received as well as the cooperation that I have given I will be remembered in history as helping to bring this country back together.
“I will not be the villain of his story,” he said
The villain of this story is named "Individual-1" and he has made a pure monkey out of y'all, along with your gutless enabling "media".
Your vagina is chaffed again. Crawl back in your hole you miserable piece of chit.
".... one of the hopes that I (Cohen) have out of the punishment that I’ve received as well as the cooperation that I have given I will be remembered in history as helping to bring this country back together.
“I will not be the villain of his story,” he said
The villain of this story is named "Individual-1" and he has made a pure monkey out of y'all, along with your gutless enabling "media".
I'd rather be a monkey than the snake you and all your lieberal cohorts have become, straight from the pit of Hell.
Just remember who is making the predictions...........
Originally Posted by Jeff_O
You guys are comical in your fear of Obama. He's not gonna go after your guns.[/b] The Dems have learned their lesson on that one. But after 8 years of ineptitude from GWB, and with an old, tired McCain and a freaky Palin as the ONLY alternative... Well... Call me all the names you want, but *I* voted for the better overall ticket, period.
I'm sure Q has an explanation other than Individual-1 being a lying criminal who conspired agaianst the United States. Hang onto THAT, fellas! It's all you've got left!
"Reasonable people can disagree about whether it's wrong to pay hush money to somebody to stop them from disclosing alleged improprieties sexually. Reasonable people can say that's wrong or that's right," Dershowitz said. "It's not illegal."
"Reasonable people can disagree about whether it's wrong to pay hush money to somebody to stop them from disclosing alleged improprieties sexually. Reasonable people can say that's wrong or that's right," Dershowitz said. "It's not illegal."
"Reasonable people can disagree about whether it's wrong to pay hush money to somebody to stop them from disclosing alleged improprieties sexually. Reasonable people can say that's wrong or that's right," Dershowitz said. "It's not illegal."
But, but, but CNN said Trump is now dead?
Just wait, the liebs will be here soon to tell you its so.
"Reasonable people can disagree about whether it's wrong to pay hush money to somebody to stop them from disclosing alleged improprieties sexually. Reasonable people can say that's wrong or that's right," Dershowitz said. "It's not illegal."
Hatari, you do realize that Dershowitz also argured that Jeffrey Epstien shouldn't do serious time for sexually abusing underage girls, right? I don't know about you but Dershowitz has lost my respect when it comes to making legal arguments, if that is what you would call he put forth.
Here is the flip side of the coin from the National Review.
President Donald Trump's personal attorney Rudy Giuliani asserted that "collusion is not a crime" and defended the president's alleged involvement by saying that, either way, "it was over by the time of the election."
Bwa ha ha. Just one big backslide as these LIARS try to retroactively amend their alternative facts.
Luckily his base is comically willing to gulp down whatever crap they spew as gospel.
Alan Dershowitz. Collusion is no crime, dumbfughk. Get a clue. Trump was a private American citizen. Like you, he is allowed to talk to anyone. He paid no foreign sources as did Hilkary, for a made up story.
We fire members are astounded at your apparent lack of mental capability in comprendhing such. Your drugs have cost you many brain neurons.
Jello the dumb fugking idiot that keeps on giving. Show us the crime/law stupid or shut the hell up. How many times to people on this site have to hand you your dope smoking ass? Go find a ladder and finish the job.
President Donald Trump's personal attorney Rudy Giuliani asserted that "collusion is not a crime" and defended the president's alleged involvement by saying that, either way, "it was over by the time of the election."
Bwa ha ha. Just one big backslide as these LIARS try to retroactively amend their alternative facts.
Luckily his base is comically willing to gulp down whatever crap they spew as gospel.
Gulp on, my indoctrinated friends.
The line between the 2 different personas, JeffO and Rolling Thunder are becoming blurred. Too bad. I liked the old one better.
Jag, might not be the weed, might be Trump Derangement Syndrome. Since TDS is a new phenomenon, we don't know it's long term effects or how serious this could get.
Senate Intelligence Committee Chairman Richard Burr, a North Carolina Republican, said the [new Russia interference] reports illustrated how "hostile foreign actors seeking to manipulate and subvert public opinion" can take advantage of social media platforms for nefarious purposes. He specifically pointed to how the efforts were aimed at dividing Americans by "race, religion and ideology" to "erode trust in our Democratic institutions."
Bolded for emphasis.
This is, and always has been, my point. If Trump in any way helped a "hostile foreign actor" attack American democracy the son of a bitch should hang for treason and I'm not kidding.
He won't hang, because the Founders defined treason narrowly due to their experiences with King George abusing the notion. But when he's getting frog-marched off to prison I'll be a happy camper.
Because he did it, and you're fücking retarded if you don't see that STILL as the lies keep coming out.
On a more farcical note, Giuliani is a walking clown show who kneecaps the PINO every time he opens his yap. Sunday was CLASSIC in that regard. Rudolf the dumb-ass reindeer blorped out that Individual-1 lied about both the campaign skank payoffs AND the ongoing Trump Tower in Moscow efforts ALL THE WAY TO THE FREAKING ELECTION!
Oh, there's no motive there to collude. Move along people, nothing to see here.
Too bad you dumbasses weren't smart enough to take my advice and vote for the Libertarian dork I voted for. We could've shook up the system, protected gun rights, and skipped all this nonsense.
Senate Intelligence Committee Chairman Richard Burr, a North Carolina Republican, said the [new Russia interference] reports illustrated how "hostile foreign actors seeking to manipulate and subvert public opinion" can take advantage of social media platforms for nefarious purposes.
I used to feel sorry for Jeff and thought he took more abuse than he deserved but unfortunately I was wrong. I try to think the best about people and give them the benefit of the doubt but this was a lesson learned. People like Jeff are why old guys hate everyone. He creates more hatred and personifies everything that he claims to hate while seeking negative attention from men. His demeanor and overall attitude sure took a dive into Crazy Land after the election, now he’s just obsessed with being “right”.
Is there a member called Rolling Thunder? Ain't me. Rick, delete my account if I'm lying.
You clueless wonders have the mother of all dope-slaps inbound.
LOL.
You've "been lying" for awhile now.
Only thing he knows how to do.
Originally Posted by Jeff_O
You guys are comical in your fear of Obama. He's not gonna go after your guns.[/b] The Dems have learned their lesson on that one. But after 8 years of ineptitude from GWB, and with an old, tired McCain and a freaky Palin as the ONLY alternative... Well... Call me all the names you want, but *I* voted for the better overall ticket, period.
Actual journalists (as opposed to, you know, the utterly co-opted alt.media) are pretty good at boiling things down to actual facts (as opposed to, you know, your alt.facts). None of the below is disputable. The man is a traitor (as opposed to, you know, an America-First kinda guy). Which makes all of you pure retards for being such useful idiots (as opposed to, you know, me).
Let’s recap:
Trump, while campaigning for president, had a secret deal in Russia for which his attorney sought Putin’s help. Trump lied to the public about this.
Trump’s campaign was informed [at the Trump Tower meeting] that Moscow intended to intervene to help Trump. It said nothing about this information, essentially encouraged the Kremlin, and denied Moscow’s involvement once the Russian hack-and-dump attack became publicly known.
Trump, after being told the Kremlin was attempting to subvert an American election, claimed no such thing was happening. He covered for Putin.
Trump aided and abetted Russia’s secret war on the United States—a war that helped shape the outcome of a narrowly decided presidential election. This is all known, and indisputable—except that these days, anything will be disputed by Trump and his followers {because you are retards- Ed}. Even if Trump’s disputations are demonstrable lies—“I have nothing to do with Russia”—they still color and cloud the ongoing public discourse about what happened in 2016 {ditto}
"There’s no allegation in this indictment that any American citizen committed a crime. There’s no allegation that the conspiracy changed the vote counted or affected any election result." Rod Rosenstein
"There’s no allegation in this indictment that any American citizen committed a crime. There’s no allegation that the conspiracy changed the vote counted or affected any election result." Rod Rosenstein
So you implicitly concede the above and counter with "but it didn't matter"?
A play right outta the Individual-1 camp. Deny lie deny lie deny lie, then retroactively justify without ever really taking responsibility.
"There’s no allegation in this indictment that any American citizen committed a crime. There’s no allegation that the conspiracy changed the vote counted or affected any election result." Rod Rosenstein
So you implicitly concede the above and counter with "but it didn't matter"?
A play right outta the Individual-1 camp. Deny lie deny lie deny lie, then retroactively justify without ever really taking responsibility.
It did matter, and it does matter, a LOT.
I'M saying that statement should have been the end of this damn charade.
By the way, you guys do realize that what I posted above- as if it took that post, but whatever- demonstrates collusion, right? You know, just the thing you guys denied happened? Do I need to go back to the beginning of this thread and mine all your statements and put them in your faces like a pup getting potty trained?
col·lu·sion /kəˈlo͞oZHən/ noun secret or illegal cooperation or conspiracy, especially in order to cheat or deceive others.
I mean, I just assumed you've all conceded this, but sometimes I forget the level of pure retardation around here.
WTM45, if only vast conspiracy takedowns by the criminal justice system ended with the first indictment, you might have a point. They do not, thus, you do not. What he said was true OF THAT INDICTMENT.
More broadly, all y'alls invocation of "TDS" is getting increasingly hysterical in tone. It's also deeply, deeply ironic.... but I don't expect you double-digit IQ peeps to understand why.
You mean like collusion to illegaly overthrow the duly elected POTUS by subversion involving the payment of outside sources to build a false dossier using enemies of our nation by Zero, Hillary, dnc, Comey, mccabe, strozk, mueller, page, loretta lynch, ....... ?
By the way, you guys do realize that what I posted above- as if it took that post, but whatever- demonstrates collusion, right? You know, just the thing you guys denied happened? Do I need to go back to the beginning of this thread and mine all your statements and put them in your faces like a pup getting potty trained?
col·lu·sion /kəˈlo͞oZHən/ noun secret or illegal cooperation or conspiracy, especially in order to cheat or deceive others.
I mean, I just assumed you've all conceded this, but sometimes I forget the level of pure retardation around here.
WTM45, if only vast conspiracy takedowns by the criminal justice system ended with the first indictment, you might have a point. They do not, thus, you do not. What he said was true OF THAT INDICTMENT.
More broadly, all y'alls invocation of "TDS" is getting increasingly hysterical in tone. It's also deeply, deeply ironic.... but I don't expect you double-digit IQ peeps to understand why.
When you go back to the beginning, dig up all the times where “big things” were imminent and [bleep] was going to happen soon.
How long do you think it will be before the Mueller wiped texts of Strozk are retrieved and unleashed concerning the proposed assasination of our President, Jell0?
3 days after Bill met with Lynch on the tarmack Comey drafted the speech he would months later feed the would exonerating Hillary. COLLUSION.
Zero had 6 fbi moles trying to join the Trump campaign in the spring of '16 - before Trump won the R nomination.
By the way, you guys do realize that what I posted above- as if it took that post, but whatever- demonstrates collusion, right? You know, just the thing you guys denied happened? Do I need to go back to the beginning of this thread and mine all your statements and put them in your faces like a pup getting potty trained?
col·lu·sion /kəˈlo͞oZHən/ noun secret or illegal cooperation or conspiracy, especially in order to cheat or deceive others.
I mean, I just assumed you've all conceded this, but sometimes I forget the level of pure retardation around here.
WTM45, if only vast conspiracy takedowns by the criminal justice system ended with the first indictment, you might have a point. They do not, thus, you do not. What he said was true OF THAT INDICTMENT.
More broadly, all y'alls invocation of "TDS" is getting increasingly hysterical in tone. It's also deeply, deeply ironic.... but I don't expect you double-digit IQ peeps to understand why.
When you go back to the beginning, dig up all the times where “big things” were imminent and [bleep] was going to happen soon.
I’m still waiting...........
George
Hell, I've asked him for just ONE PAGE of evidence.
There was a lot of collusion, traitorous acts, subversion and lying but it was not Trump or his campaign that’s guilty of it. He was a newcomer to politics and he was vulnerable to the despicable manipulations of the deep state. They saw an opportunity to frame him for what they had done and were doing and he became their false scapegoat. Obongo the magic negro was so dirty and corrupt and hated this country so much that he shat on our Constitution over and over but in spite of his disgusting behavior even the magic negro couldn’t stomach the thought of Hilary as President. The democrats and their deep state “republicans” like McStain are the ones that are guilty. Projection is the only play those losers have in a weak attempt to buy them enough time to wiggle free from the noose that’s slowly but surely tightening around their little pencil necks.
Lynch looked uncomfortable today headed in for questioning about her lies. Comey is in such a tenuous spot that he’s becoming a caricature of what the deep state looks like and acts like when they don’t get their way. His misplaced anger is growing and his <rightful> paranoia is causing him to be the laughing stock of the country. He and his merry band of douchebags have destroyed the FBI and their once stellar reputation. They’ve proved beyond any doubt that the FBI has become so politicized, so corrupt that any credibility they once enjoyed has morphed into distrust and outright hatred by those they “serve”.
Jeff has been wrong so often that his reputation here is ruined (as if he ever enjoyed respect from anyone here). Any shred of dignity he once had is gone and he’s a sad example of a larger subset of morons and retards.....progressives, democrats and #nevertrumpers. His general attitude has deteriorated into desperation, despair and hysteria. It’s become laughable.
How long do you think it will be before the Mueller wiped texts of Strozk are retrieved and unleashed concerning the proposed assasination of our President, ?
They are already retrieved. The NSA has everything on everybody.
As for being unleashed, that's a never, especially if there is assassination talk. How long have they been able to keep the Kennedy assignations under wraps?
Besides, the only person that would be able to release them is President Trump and he has already stated that he isn't going to declass the FISA scandal or anything else. and that "some things" are best kept secret.
Actual journalists (as opposed to, you know, the utterly co-opted alt.media) are pretty good at boiling things down to actual facts (as opposed to, you know, your alt.facts). None of the below is disputable. The man is a traitor (as opposed to, you know, an America-First kinda guy). Which makes all of you pure retards for being such useful idiots (as opposed to, you know, me).
Let’s recap:
Trump, while campaigning for president, had a secret deal in Russia for which his attorney sought Putin’s help. Trump lied to the public about this.
Trump’s campaign was informed [at the Trump Tower meeting] that Moscow intended to intervene to help Trump. It said nothing about this information, essentially encouraged the Kremlin, and denied Moscow’s involvement once the Russian hack-and-dump attack became publicly known.
Trump, after being told the Kremlin was attempting to subvert an American election, claimed no such thing was happening. He covered for Putin.
Trump aided and abetted Russia’s secret war on the United States—a war that helped shape the outcome of a narrowly decided presidential election. This is all known, and indisputable—except that these days, anything will be disputed by Trump and his followers {because you are retards- Ed}. Even if Trump’s disputations are demonstrable lies—“I have nothing to do with Russia”—they still color and cloud the ongoing public discourse about what happened in 2016 {ditto}
Originally Posted by Jeff_O
(Kenneth, if you are reading this, I'm laffin' at your spineless butt)
Sorry for being late......
I WAS AT WORK!!!!!!!!!!!
I'm astounded how you can find sentences about things others have said, and form them to suit your thoughts or reasoning.... You don't have a clue what Trump or Putin did or said, what happened or what did not happen. The amount of links you have provided by every hick dime store media has been laughable..
The quotes from some of your "sources" have been straight from National Lampoon.
Your 30+ years of hatred for someone you've never met, who lives across the entire USA from you, is simply driving you into stupidity..Get a job, get a life, find something worthwhile to actually focus on.......
still no facts, no evidence, no crimes.....
Some people might actually respect you (not likely) if you just sat in the weeds and waited for the Real Players to find actual evidence of a crime, instead you continue to insult, belittle, call names,,,,
basically just acting childish..... Have at it, it's your funeral............
Jello is truly to stupid for words. Seriously what a fugking idiot!!! Just say no to drugs. Unless your jello then feel free to overdose you worthless sack of crap.
"Giuliani suggested over the weekend that Trump had spoken with his former attorney Michael Cohen past January 2016 about a Trump Tower in Moscow. Asked to clarify by CNN, Giuliani also asserted, "There was a letter of intent to go forward, but no one signed it." "
Today:
""I was wrong if I said it," Giuliani told CNN's Dana Bash. "I haven't seen the quote, but I probably meant to say there was never a deal, much less a signed one"
BULL EFFING SHÏT. Those are utterly different statements, and his initial statement is clear as a bell, and the very structure of the phrasing only works if it's about a letter of intent.
Lies lies lies lies upon lies. Gosh golly, why would they keep lying about this? Could it BE.....?! Naaaaah. It's just all about Angry Democrats and Deep States and Swamp Creatures. That the most obvious explanation here. Right? Aww hell yeah!!
Actual journalists (as opposed to, you know, the utterly co-opted alt.media) are pretty good at boiling things down to actual facts (as opposed to, you know, your alt.facts). None of the below is disputable. The man is a traitor (as opposed to, you know, an America-First kinda guy). Which makes all of you pure retards for being such useful idiots (as opposed to, you know, me).
Let’s recap:
Trump, while campaigning for president, had a secret deal in Russia for which his attorney sought Putin’s help. Trump lied to the public about this.
Trump’s campaign was informed [at the Trump Tower meeting] that Moscow intended to intervene to help Trump. It said nothing about this information, essentially encouraged the Kremlin, and denied Moscow’s involvement once the Russian hack-and-dump attack became publicly known.
Trump, after being told the Kremlin was attempting to subvert an American election, claimed no such thing was happening. He covered for Putin.
Trump aided and abetted Russia’s secret war on the United States—a war that helped shape the outcome of a narrowly decided presidential election. This is all known, and indisputable—except that these days, anything will be disputed by Trump and his followers {because you are retards- Ed}. Even if Trump’s disputations are demonstrable lies—“I have nothing to do with Russia”—they still color and cloud the ongoing public discourse about what happened in 2016 {ditto}
Originally Posted by Jeff_O
(Kenneth, if you are reading this, I'm laffin' at your spineless butt)
Sorry for being late......
I WAS AT WORK!!!!!!!!!!!
I'm astounded how you can find sentences about things others have said, and form them to suit your thoughts or reasoning.... You don't have a clue what Trump or Putin did or said, what happened or what did not happen. The amount of links you have provided by every hick dime store media has been laughable..
The quotes from some of your "sources" have been straight from National Lampoon.
Your 30+ years of hatred for someone you've never met, who lives across the entire USA from you, is simply driving you into stupidity..Get a job, get a life, find something worthwhile to actually focus on.......
still no facts, no evidence, no crimes.....
Some people might actually respect you (not likely) if you just sat in the weeds and waited for the Real Players to find actual evidence of a crime, instead you continue to insult, belittle, call names,,,,
basically just acting childish..... Have at it, it's your funeral............
Spiiiiiiineless.......... bwa ha ha. Just can't control your self, can you? Bet they love that at your so-called "work".
Calling names, insulting, acting childish, and belittlement are the currency of the realm, you clueless moron. I learned it right here.
Respect? Good lord. I'm not here to get anybody's respect. I'm here to call out the most blatant dumbassery by a group of people- many of whom I actually DID once respect- that I've seen in my entire life.
You’re at the top of the mountain of blatant dumbassery. Falling off a ladder, blue tape, lost on your postage stamp and the infamous box of bullets. Was there a thread about azz shooting too or was that another retard?
WASHINGTON — Special counsel Robert Mueller is nearing the end of his historic investigation into Russian election interference and is expected to submit a confidential report to the attorney general as early as mid-February, government officials and others familiar with the situation tell NBC News.
"They clearly are tying up loose ends," said a lawyer who has been in contact with the Mueller team.
The sources either did not know or would not say whether Mueller has answered the fundamental question he was hired to investigate: Whether Trump or anyone around him conspired with the Russian intelligence operations to help his campaign.
You’re at the top of the mountain of blatant dumbassery. Falling off a ladder, blue tape, lost on your postage stamp and the infamous box of bullets. Was there a thread about azz shooting too or was that another retard?
Fücknut-in-chief is panic tweeting in full meltdown mode.... the end is near and he knows it. He's botched everything (in addition to being a PROVEN traitor*.) He's going down.
Stock market will crash hard when it opens back up. Panic is contagious.
Good job, guys. Good job. Golf clap.
* at the absolute minimum the son of a bitch lied to give Russia cover. He did way, way more.... but that's incontrovertible.
Fücknut-in-chief is panic tweeting in full meltdown mode.... the end is near and he knows it. He's botched everything (in addition to being a PROVEN traitor*.) He's going down.
Stock market will crash hard when it opens back up. Panic is contagious.
Good job, guys. Good job. Golf clap.
* at the absolute minimum the son of a bitch lied to give Russia cover. He did way, way more.... but that's incontrovertible.
JeffObama, do us all a GREAT favor for Christmas, shoot all your offspring then eat a Glock. The world and certainly this Site will be a better place...
In an article published Thursday, news agency McClatchy DC cites four sources who say a mobile phone connected to Cohen “briefly sent signals ricocheting off cell towers in the Prague area in late summer 2016, at the height of the presidential campaign, leaving an electronic record to support claims that Cohen met secretly there with Russian officials.” If true, the claims would lend additional support to the controversial and inflammatory Steele dossier, which famously claimed that Cohen had been in Prague around that time on behalf of then–presidential candidate Donald Trump."
Link to the story. Hint: you likely won't read it. Can't leave your bubble, after all.
Individual-1 (poor him!) did more than "just" collude. You'd understand if you knew the reported reasons Individual-1 (poor him!) sent Cohen to Prague. I suggest you start understanding ASAP. Individual-1 will be end up in an orange jumpsuit unless/until his successor pardons him.
By the way, I told you guys about Mueller having this intel months ago. At the time I believe I received a chorus of, in essence, "fake news!" howls.
The thing is, the Steele dossier was a valid data point, among many others, from which to launch FISA warrants and an investigation.
The thing is, the investigation has proven to be utterly valid and the conspiracy utterly real. The opposite of a witch hunt.
Individual-1 (poor him!) has already been shown to have lied to give Putin cover. He knew it was Russia hacking, and he lied. He lied to you, me, everyone. He knew, he lied, he's a traitor.
And you wanks have been shown to be indoctrinated puppets of a huckster and his complicit media by willfully ignoring obvious reality. And I'm ashamed of you, a group of people I actually used to hold up to my liberal friends as an example of online right-wing rationality. And what's really strange to me is that YOU KNOW IT. But you're too addicted to the conspiracies to let go and too prideful to admit it.
How many cell phones did Cohen have? Hint, he had quite a few of them. Could someone else have been using one of them? How hard would it be to briefly mimic a ping from one of his many phones as part of a Russian disinformation campaign? I'm not convinced that Cohen was actually in Prague and that there might be other plausible explanations for what is being reported in the news. I'd like to see more evidence such as pictures or videos of Cohen actually in Prague at the time before I'd give this story credence.
What's funny is that Springcove is right there on that page of this clusterfück of a thread pitching shït. Yet it looks like I was reading the tea leaves right- and that was in April.
i could make an online career, and a fun one at that, out of mining this thread for retarded (and rude) statements made by you guys, and rubbing your noses in them. And I just might do that. Consider this the first salvo.
This would obviously be a game-breaking development, but a few reasons to be cautious:
The Prague meeting was in Steele's very last memo, and Steele himself suspects Russia learned of his first memo shortly after he submitted it, and could have deduced his sources and begun feeding him disinformation.
Greg Miller at WaPo says his sources at FBI and CIA are skeptical of the Prague meeting. Then again, it's possible this information did not get disseminated widely, and this article indicates that the intelligence was shared directly with Robert Mueller.
Cohen's personal arc that he is trying to build, where he is not a villain of history, relies on him telling the truth from here on out, and he is still denying the Prague trip. Then again, (1) it may be that Cohen is hoping to avoid admitting to an event that is this close to treason and (2) it's Lanny Davis who is issuing the denials nowadays, and Davis is no longer representing Cohen. (Edit: Cohen re-affirmed his denial this afternoon of Prague specifically, also saying "Mueller knows everything!".)
This is just a working title, and I'm open to suggestions, but I could create a thread and call it "JeffO was right, and these fücks were wrong:" and just post example after example of me being right, and you wanks being wrong. I mean, it's all right here, gloriously so. Just go on, and on, and on. I mean SPECIFICS. Call you out by name. Over and over. For years.
Or, I could choose a specific retard amongst you and, one at time, show me speaking truth and you being, well, a retard. Over and over and over.
This is just a working title, and I'm open to suggestions, but I could create a thread and call it "JeffO was right, and these fücks were wrong:" and just post example after example of me being right, and you wanks being wrong. I mean, it's all right here, gloriously so. Just go on, and on, and on. I mean SPECIFICS. Call you out by name. Over and over. For years.
Or, I could choose a specific retard amongst you and, one at time, show me speaking truth and you being, well, a retard. Over and over and over.
This is just a working title, and I'm open to suggestions, but I could create a thread and call it "JeffO was right, and these fücks were wrong:" and just post example after example of me being right, and you wanks being wrong. I mean, it's all right here, gloriously so. Just go on, and on, and on. I mean SPECIFICS. Call you out by name. Over and over. For years.
Or, I could choose a specific retard amongst you and, one at time, show me speaking truth and you being, well, a retard. Over and over and over.
Options don't suck! Hmmm.
Go for it, Champ.
Don’t forget blue tape and a gps for his vast acerage.
If you didnt, then why would it upset you? Please dont bother answering. It isnt as if i care.
Maybe words starting with Q give you a case of the red ass.
I just asked. You have your own private Q-ber thread, why bring this stuff elsewhere on this forum and double post the same video?
Its his own special way of being relevant and important for the masses on the internet. Kind of a truth in numbers thingy in his, uh, mind..... And Q hasn't "dropped' anything really new lately.......Its all just the same old "hold your beer and watch this" happen crap being "re-dropped", so one has to spread it out..............
Jell0, who said, "We in the FBI are not concerned with politics".
Ho, ho, ho, your bro- Comey the Clown. What is it attracks you to lick the stick of liars like him, Zero and Slick?
Comey the Clown be going down.
Please consult that feeling of a stick in your ass and tell us why we have seen no tweets from you deep state cabal members since about 12-21 and, none of them mentioned wishing their ass lickers having a merry xmas or happy new year.
Ah for those good old days when just before the election Hillary leaked that she had heard there was going to come out some bad news about the Trump campaign. Did she smugly say a little birdy told her? Now how would she know?
Did a real tall turkey tell her that her paid for Trump Dossier was on its way to save her day? When Uncle Sams away the rats will play- democRats, that is.
Yep, McCabe would never let Trump become potus, "We will stop him".
Too bad you only watch cnn and have no clue what im talking about. Well, read below and try to figure it out.
"Former Russian intelligence officer Victor Boyarkin was in touch with Manafort during the 2016 US presidential campaign on behalf of Russian billionaire Oleg Deripaska, who has close ties to the Kremlin, Time magazine reported Saturday....."He owed us a lot of money," Boyarkin told Time this past fall. "And he was offering ways to pay it back."
"I came down on him hard," Boyarkin added.
Such a baseless witch hunt. I mean, all we have is motivation (everywhere, everyone involved, in spades), opportunity, desire (the TT meeting), and a weapon.
Don't underestimate the stupidity of the democratic voter. Your talking a group of people who can't survive without handouts and assistance. By handouts and assistance I mean taking from working folks.
Don't underestimate the stupidity of the democratic voter. Your talking a group of people who can't survive without handouts and assistance. By handouts and assistance I mean taking from working folks.
"know yourself, know your enemy, and you shall win a hundred battles without loss"
Unnamed sources have possibly stated, that it's likely, that Individual Kenneth, may have, possibly, had some form of contact with Russian vodka during the 2018 Holiday season,
individual Kenneth has repeatedly claimed that he did not know there was possibly Russians involved, also possibly indicating that Cake baked with Vodka is not a crime, nor to be alleged has drinking heavily.........
Also sources say neighbors may have seen Individual Kenneth "possibly", drunk like a Russian while walking the garbage cans down to the end of the driveway,
With complete and utter contradiction, Kenneth's wife states that the driveway is slick with ice and snow,
and that if, possibly, maybe, someone driving by at 65 miles per hour may have seen Individual1 slip and possibly almost fall,
it was likely, possibly, almost assuredly, the Russians fault......
Unnamed other sources have possibly stated there is possibly, in fact, even likely, collusion by Mexican officials in this deep state, "Holiday Cake" cover-up.
The alleged liquor, also called Kahlua, commonly used in Holiday cakes, is now known to have other code names, such has possibly, and even likely '''''''White Russian''''''''. Other sources say these two highly radioactive hazardous materials, are often used in weapons of mass destruction,
A clear example of this not so clear example would possibly be, in fact, even likely, the fall of Stalingrad in 1943.
With these new allegations of Mexican collusion, it has now become almost, somewhat, perfectly clear on Trumps insistence on the border wall.
Perfect, if , and almost factual evidence of another deep state cover-up.
If you didnt, then why would it upset you? Please dont bother answering. It isnt as if i care.
Maybe words starting with Q give you a case of the red ass.
I just asked. You have your own private Q-ber thread, why bring this stuff elsewhere on this forum and double post the same video?
How about, "I felt like it".
Reserch further and you will discover, its Whips thread, Fred.
How about, your Q-ber thread is all but dead and only viewed by the same 3-4 people, so you post the same schit from the Dead Q-ber thread elsewhere in hopes that other members that won't waste their time at the Q-ber thread, will click on your Bull Schit.
Lots of diff people view an also post on the Q thread ,some contibute news and some like to piss in the corner,, just like all the rest of the threads ,,, havnt had to lead anybody by the hand lately and draw stuff out on a chalkboard but theres info to look at or not ,, seems to stay in the front 4 pages,,, same as the others,,
He never thinks of Jesus when he votes for baby killers like Zero. Oh sorry, Jell0 doesnt know about Zero voting 3 times to kill live babies of failed abortions. CNN forgot to tell him.
When he votes for abortionists he supports it becaue he really doesnt give a schiett.
Disingenuous lying scum.
Jell0, what did Jesus say about being a liar, or people living on welfare?
A piece of Special Counsel Robert Mueller's investigation is now out in the open — not that Paul Manafort's lawyers wanted it to be.
On Monday, Manafort's lawyers submitted a filing in the U.S. government's case against him, and a redacted version was made public on Tuesday. Except the public document wasn't redacted very well, and revealed that Mueller is alleging Manafort shared 2016 polling data with a supposed Russian operative.
A piece of Special Counsel Robert Mueller's investigation is now out in the open — not that Paul Manafort's lawyers wanted it to be.
On Monday, Manafort's lawyers submitted a filing in the U.S. government's case against him, and a redacted version was made public on Tuesday. Except the public document wasn't redacted very well, and revealed that Mueller is alleging Manafort shared 2016 polling data with a supposed Russian operative.
Yessir, that's exactly what it sounds like.
Sounds like you dont care about ruskies giving the clinton foundation $145 million.
Army Corps of engineers has a multibillion dollar budget they can reprioritize to build a border wall.
Not going to happen.
As Rush pointed out yesterday,
President Trump will declare a National Emergency.
The Democrats have already picked the Judge that will strike it down.
President Trump will not be able to use the Military to build the wall unless the Supreme Court overturns the Judges ruling. Odds of that happening are slim to non as Roberts has been blackmailed into siding with the other 4 Liberals on the Court.
The Military will not be building this wall while RBG and Roberts are on the Court.
Roberts is living proof that the republicans are no different than the democrats. Bush appointed a “conservative” justice and we all bought in to the BS. We thought Texas Bush was different than than the democrats because we haven’t had a true patriot in the White House since <maybe> Reagan and we got fooled bigly.
Texas Bush is a POS deep state lover and quietly fugged us over with his tomfoolery. We got suckered into thinking there was a difference between the 2 parties, there isn’t.
Roberts is living proof that the republicans are no different than the democrats. Bush appointed a “conservative” justice and we all bought in to the BS. We thought Texas Bush was different than than the democrats because we haven’t had a true patriot in the White House since <maybe> Reagan and we got fooled bigly.
Texas Bush is a POS deep state lover and quietly fugged us over with his tomfoolery. We got suckered into thinking there was a difference between the 2 parties, there isn’t.
There "Wasn't". With Donald J Trump at the helm, there is a yuge difference. At least until he leaves office.
I'd be more inclined to believe that Roberts is proof the obama and clinton cartel corrupted and weaponized every department in the government including the Supreme court.
Roberts adopted two Irish kids through another means outside the state in what may be considered an illegal manner. Zeros doj could have made things bad for him and his family.
Scum will stop at nothing to win, as you should know by your own character, la Roy, or lack thereof.
Jell0, some inconveient truths the handlers behind cnn, abc, cbs, etc are aware of but not informing their lemmings of is that Trump doesnt lie.
1. He said he didnt collude with Russia and it means little to msm tit suckers its true and
2. wouldnt have been illegal had he done so.
3. RR has said that the focus of the Mueller investigation is not Trump. There is no criminal investigation of Trump. RR, your hero told you so but all you can hear is what the MSM tells you.
4. Mueller is never going to bring charges against Trump. Think, use your brain. Quit swallowing the NWO deep state BS.
5. Trump said its a witch hunt, why, because its a Witch Hunt. Who is the witch, why its your Hillbitch.
6. Think, man, think! You and la Roy really are dumb enough to believe the MSM and think Mueller met with Trump for 31/2 hours asking for a job he had already served on for 12 years of a 10 year term. He wasnt eligible. He presided over the FBI turning a blind eye to Hillarys subversive act of selling U One to Russia for personal gain. I know you and la Roy dont care and just ignore it to swallow more palatable BS, but others dont ignore it. You ignore anticonstitional criminality because you are brainwashed to the MSM lie that the dims really care for you and are working for your best interest. (Thats why Peoosi just called for reversing Trumps tax cuts that got our economy going and its why she wants no wall).
Now Mueller may have been blackmailed into turning a blind eye or he may have done so on his own or for favors or money, but the fact is, its a fact.
Now, if you were Mueller and Trump met with you for 3.5 hours and explained to you how the freaking cow ate the cabbage and how he owened your ass would you be going after Trump, or would you be on a Witch Hunt?
You suckers are the ones following the NWO Jim Jones pied piper who is poisoning and destroying you're country with muzzy immigration and open borders and drugs and caravans now from Central America right in front of your very eyes, and you cant see it because youre focused on their lies.
First, that a counter-intel investigation was launched. I'm not in any way surprised; as I said at the very beginning of this, WTF else were our intel guys supposed to do?! This is their JOB, and only idiots could've missed all the red flags. Interestingly, y'all missed them. What's notable is that, similar to the issuance of a FISA warrant, the initiation of an CI investigation into a sitting POTUS requires far, far more than just Angry Democrats on a Witch Hunt. Mark my words, there will have been communications intercepts or the like that justified the investigation, beyond the obvious stuff that was plain to see.
Second, that Trump has taken great efforts to conceal his communications with Putin within his own adminstration. Helsinki was the most glaring and frankly, the most insane example. Here's a guy under all kinds of heat over "Russia", so what does he do? He meets with Putin for TWO HOURS, with no Americans present other than an interpreter, who's notes he promptly confiscated. Then, to top it off, he stood next to a smirking Putin, while pissing down his own leg in submission, and threw American intelligence services under the bus.
That's just [bleep] weird.
Facts:
Trump knowingly lied to America to give Putin's attacks cover during the election; His campaign was in constant contact with Russia, which they lied about; His campaign participated in the attack on America by providing granular polling data to Russia; Trump has lied about every aspect of this ever since. He literally could not have acted more guilty, and every. single. freaking. revelation since then has further reinforced the FACT that he's a lying traitorous POS.
There will be much, much, more.
Oh, and I've been right all along. Yep. Yuh-huh. Suck on THAT.
Keep saying it until you "get it". = Mueller & his DIMocRAT supporters are on a WITCH HUNT & the ONLY real witch is Hillary ROTTEN Klintoon.
IF there was ONE standard of justice, rather than one for the politically powerful ELITES & a MUCH more inflexible/stern standard for ordinary folks (like you/me), she would be in jail for decades for several felonies. (IF you/I was even half as corrupt & had broken even 1/5 of the laws that HRC has violated, we would be doing LIFE W/O parole in federal prison for fraud, dishonest business practices, bribery, criminal perjury, subornation of perjury & YES, involvement in numerous homicides in Arkansas.)
Fyi, I was a federal LE officer for 3 decades & I know how CORRUPT that the system is from top to bottom, when it comes to the "favored few".
You f’wads must have missed Jonathan (I’m a lefty troll parading as a journalist)Karl on ABC telling ol’ George (Clinton Hack) Stephanopoulos that the Mueller Report isn’t going to amount to Shiit.
You f’wads must have missed Jonathan (I’m a lefty troll parading as a journalist)Karl on ABC telling ol’ George (Clinton Hack) Stephanopoulos that the Mueller Report isn’t going to amount to Shiit.
[quote=jaguartx] The Military will not be building this wall while RBG and Roberts are on the Court.
Tell us more about this blackmailing. With what leverage is he being blackmailed and how do you know this? Are you a confidante of his?
Yes
Interesting. Quite the fantasy world you live in.
You asked, he answered, but you would rather believe a lie. You would rather believe we gotta pass the bill to see whats in it.
You think all people are no better than you and your ilk which are lying dimocraps.
And you know what? You cant help it. Its human nature. That is the real reason you shouldnt be a liar. Its because you are cursed by your own self in that you live a life of never being able to believe another human being.
Maybe thats why dimocreeeps are so fugged up. Its them against the world, with no refuge for rest.
You f’wads must have missed Jonathan (I’m a lefty troll parading as a journalist)Karl on ABC telling ol’ George (Clinton Hack) Stephanopoulos that the Mueller Report isn’t going to amount to Shiit.
Legendary journalist Carl Bernstein has said that he’s been told that special counsel Robert Mueller’s report will show how President Donald Trump helped Russia “destabilize the United States.”
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But Bernstein slammed Trump’s dismissal of the probe.
“This is about the most serious counterintelligence people we have in the U.S. government saying, ‘Oh, my God, the president’s words and actions lead us to conclude that somehow he has become a witting, unwitting, or half-witting pawn, certainly in some regards, to Vladimir Putin,'” Bernstein explained during his appearance on Reliable Sources .
“From a point of view of strength… rather, he has done what appears to be Putin’s goals. He has helped Putin destabilize the United States and interfere in the election, no matter whether it was purposeful or not,” the journalist added. He then explained that he knew from his own high-level sources that Mueller’s report would discuss this assessment.
“And that is part of what the draft of Mueller’s report, I’m told, is to be about,” he said. “We know there has been collusion by [former national security adviser Michael] Flynn. We know there has been collusion of some sort by [Trump’s former campaign chairman Paul] Manafort. The question is, yes, what did the president know and when did he know it?”
Better not read this. 101 documented contacts between the Trump campaign and "Russia". Be sure not to read deep enough to where, for comic relief, they provide a much-abridged list of the times that Trump campaign members, administration members, and/or Trump himself say there were NO contacts.
It's just kinda funny. Also, pathetic that any adult believes a word Lyin' Trump says.
KARL: What I am getting is that this is all building up to the Mueller report and raising expectations of a bombshell report. And there have been expectations that have been building, of course, for over a year on this. But people who are closest to what Mueller has been doing, interacting with the special counsel caution me that this report is almost certain to be anti-climactic. If you look at what the FBI was investigating in that New York Times report, you look at what they were investigating, Mueller did not go anywhere with that investigation. He has been writing his report in real time through these indictments and we have seen nothing from Mueller on the central question of, was there any coordination, collusion, with the Russians in the effort to meddle in the elections? Or was there even any knowledge on the part of the president or anybody in his campaign with what the Russians were doing, there’s been no indication of that …
STEPHANOPOULOS: They hadn’t laid that out yet in the indictments but how do things like the Trump Tower meeting with Russians, Don Jr., Paul Manafort, Paul Manafort giving polling data to Ukrainian oligarchs, the pursuit of a Trump Tower in Moscow. How does that fit into this theory?
KARL: What we’ve certainly seen over and over again is the people around the president, first of all, have been willing to lie to investigators, and had their own dealings with Russians, had their own agendas with Russians. And Manafort was trying to get paid for his work on behalf of Ukraine. Flynn had his own dealings. But it is not added up to anything of the central question, again, was there anybody – was the Trump campaign aware of or coordinating with the Russians in their effort to meddle with the election. So far there’s been nothing on that and I’m led to believe don’t expect there’s going to be any.
KARL: What I am getting is that this is all building up to the Mueller report and raising expectations of a bombshell report. And there have been expectations that have been building, of course, for over a year on this. But people who are closest to what Mueller has been doing, interacting with the special counsel caution me that this report is almost certain to be anti-climactic. If you look at what the FBI was investigating in that New York Times report, you look at what they were investigating, Mueller did not go anywhere with that investigation. He has been writing his report in real time through these indictments and we have seen nothing from Mueller on the central question of, was there any coordination, collusion, with the Russians in the effort to meddle in the elections? Or was there even any knowledge on the part of the president or anybody in his campaign with what the Russians were doing, there’s been no indication of that …
STEPHANOPOULOS: They hadn’t laid that out yet in the indictments but how do things like the Trump Tower meeting with Russians, Don Jr., Paul Manafort, Paul Manafort giving polling data to Ukrainian oligarchs, the pursuit of a Trump Tower in Moscow. How does that fit into this theory?
KARL: What we’ve certainly seen over and over again is the people around the president, first of all, have been willing to lie to investigators, and had their own dealings with Russians, had their own agendas with Russians. And Manafort was trying to get paid for his work on behalf of Ukraine. Flynn had his own dealings. But it is not added up to anything of the central question, again, was there anybody – was the Trump campaign aware of or coordinating with the Russians in their effort to meddle with the election. So far there’s been nothing on that and I’m led to believe don’t expect there’s going to be any.
Can you imagine the Rachel Maddow lackeys hearing this news?
“This is about the most serious counterintelligence people we have in the U.S. government saying, ‘Oh, my God, the president’s words and actions lead us to conclude that somehow he has become a witting, unwitting, or half-witting pawn, certainly in some regards, to Vladimir Putin,'” Bernstein explained during his appearance on Reliable Sources .
“From a point of view of strength… rather, he has done what appears to be Putin’s goals. He has helped Putin destabilize the United States and interfere in the election, no matter whether it was purposeful or not,” the journalist added. He then explained that he knew from his own high-level sources that Mueller’s report would discuss this assessment.
“And that is part of what the draft of Mueller’s report, I’m told, is to be about,” he said. “We know there has been collusion by [former national security adviser Michael] Flynn. We know there has been collusion of some sort by [Trump’s former campaign chairman Paul] Manafort. The question is, yes, what did the president know and when did he know it?”
I had a hunch something like that would come up. When you can't pin a crime on him, you make some schidt up.
KARL: What I am getting is that this is all building up to the Mueller report and raising expectations of a bombshell report. And there have been expectations that have been building, of course, for over a year on this. But people who are closest to what Mueller has been doing, interacting with the special counsel caution me that this report is almost certain to be anti-climactic. If you look at what the FBI was investigating in that New York Times report, you look at what they were investigating, Mueller did not go anywhere with that investigation. He has been writing his report in real time through these indictments and we have seen nothing from Mueller on the central question of, was there any coordination, collusion, with the Russians in the effort to meddle in the elections? Or was there even any knowledge on the part of the president or anybody in his campaign with what the Russians were doing, there’s been no indication of that …
STEPHANOPOULOS: They hadn’t laid that out yet in the indictments but how do things like the Trump Tower meeting with Russians, Don Jr., Paul Manafort, Paul Manafort giving polling data to Ukrainian oligarchs, the pursuit of a Trump Tower in Moscow. How does that fit into this theory?
KARL: What we’ve certainly seen over and over again is the people around the president, first of all, have been willing to lie to investigators, and had their own dealings with Russians, had their own agendas with Russians. And Manafort was trying to get paid for his work on behalf of Ukraine. Flynn had his own dealings. But it is not added up to anything of the central question, again, was there anybody – was the Trump campaign aware of or coordinating with the Russians in their effort to meddle with the election. So far there’s been nothing on that and I’m led to believe don’t expect there’s going to be any.
I saw that this thread had 2466 posts, and I innately knew that it was another picture thread with hot chicks.
So I clicked the mouse
I got jeffO, jaguar and leroy freaking beans...
SYSOP!!!
Dude!
After a very slow start, my goal was to see this get to 1000 posts. JeffO has single handedly got 2500 in sight for my humble post. It wasn't even one of my good ones either, just a great topic. Run with it! On to 3000!
I saw that this thread had 2466 posts, and I innately knew that it was another picture thread with hot chicks.
So I clicked the mouse
I got jeffO, jaguar and leroy freaking beans...
SYSOP!!!
Dude!
After a very slow start, my goal was to see this get to 1000 posts. JeffO has single handedly got 2500 in sight for my humble post. It wasn't even one of my good ones either, just a great topic. Run with it! On to 3000!
You and CNN have milked this issue to death, CNN on purpose, you, not so much.
Talk to Bin about royalties or some type of compensation.
It's a topic not going away for a while. This post gives Jeff a conveient place to land everytime he gets a ray of sunshine from Mueller. This post lies dormant until something stirs his soul, and then out he comes!
I saw that this thread had 2466 posts, and I innately knew that it was another picture thread with hot chicks.
So I clicked the mouse
I got jeffO, jaguar and leroy freaking beans...
SYSOP!!!
Dude!
After a very slow start, my goal was to see this get to 1000 posts. JeffO has single handedly got 2500 in sight for my humble post. It wasn't even one of my good ones either, just a great topic. Run with it! On to 3000!
You and CNN have milked this issue to death, CNN on purpose, you, not so much.
Talk to Bin about royalties or some type of compensation.
And talk to me about another bottle of whiskey. Im getting low on shots for special occasions and i would hate to run dry and let this epic thread die.
And talk to me about another bottle of whiskey. Im getting low on shots for special occasions and i would hate to run dry and let this epic thread die.
It, it, it feels like its a part of me.
Have no fear, you couldn't quit binge drinking to save your life - and luckily, this thread will go on just fine without ya. Trust me.
And it gives so many others a place to vent, pound their chests, and BATHE YOU IN THE LIGHT OF DAY.
You should be thankful in that the truth will set you free. Of course, you and yours would prefer being kept safe on the plantation by the DNC. Remember Hillarys mentor, your Hon Senator Robert Byrd, former grand master of the KKK. Oh! I forgot, he voted to increase the welfare payments for your proud folks, to make amends for killing your sons in Nam and to buy your proud votes.
Of course, adequate renumeration is a mitigating factor in this dirty consortium.
Jeff0 is appropriate for several reasons the least of which is his record on predictions......Jeff0 is Oh’fer a bazillion. This pathetic example of propaganda and hysteria will make Jeff0.....Oh’fer a bazillion and one. 😂
All the predictions he makes about the President might make him wet in his fantasy world but they don’t amount to chit in the real world. I do hope that the guilty bastards pay the price of justice but I believe they’ll wind up being mostly democrats with a few republicans in the mix.
The Manaforts of the world have no allegiance, no ethics or morals and follow whichever party blows them best. They blow whichever way the money blows.
Dick Morris is another example of a money grubbing cockroach.
Attorney General nominee William Barr broke with President Donald Trump during his confirmation hearing Tuesday, saying he didn’t think special counsel Robert Mueller is involved in a “witch hunt” investigation. Barr told Senate Judiciary Chairman Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) that he did not think Mueller "would be involved in a witch hunt," a term Trump has used repeatedly to deride the investigation. Barr also told the Judiciary Committee that he agreed with former Attorney General Jeff Sessions' decision to recuse himself from the Russia investigation...
Swamp creature! Gaaaaa! Run for your alt.safe spaces!
Of course it's not a Witch Hunt. That's just a term Individual-1 uses to horn up his ever-shrinking band of retards. Instead, it's a serious-as-a-heart-attack intelligence investigation into something that actually happened, namely a massive and effective attack on the core principle of our democracy and an attempt o destabilize same, and to determine if and to what extent the Trump campaign and even Indidual-1 hisself aided in that attack.
Since it's now in the public domain that the following HAPPENED:
- Trump knowingly lied during the election to give Russia cover; - his campaign chairman passed granular polling data to Russia, which was then weaponized and used as part of the attack; - in total contraction to his public statements, the Trump campaign was in near-constant communication with Russia and Wiki; - the Trump campaign sent Prince to the Seychelles to try to set up a back-channel for comms outside the US government; - in total contradiction to his public statements (there's a theme here) Individual-1 WAS pursuing a massive business deal in Russia during the election; - in total contradiction to his public statements, Individual-1 did send Cohen to Prague (or its outskirts- see what they did there, numbskulls?) to meet with Russians; - after being "elected" (sic) Individual-1 took great pains to cover his tracks in an utterly unprecedented fashion, to include a 2-hour private meeting with Putin WHICH HE ENSURED THERE IS NO RECORD OF WHATSOEVER. - time after time after time, Individual-1 and his close campaign associates have caught in lie after lie after lie. Oh no, nothing to see THERE!
I could continue but suffice it to say, yeah, no, this ain't a witch hunt. So kudos to Barr for stating the obvious.
He's also correct about Sessions' recusal. There were actually two rock-solid reasons why that was the correct and legal thing to do.
“This is about the most serious counterintelligence people we have in the U.S. government saying, ‘Oh, my God, the president’s words and actions lead us to conclude that somehow he has become a witting, unwitting, or half-witting pawn, certainly in some regards, to Vladimir Putin,'” Bernstein explained during his appearance on Reliable Sources .
“From a point of view of strength… rather, he has done what appears to be Putin’s goals. He has helped Putin destabilize the United States and interfere in the election, no matter whether it was purposeful or not,” the journalist added. He then explained that he knew from his own high-level sources that Mueller’s report would discuss this assessment.
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I meant to comment on this earlier. It's a face saving exit strategy for the witch hunters. "No, we couldn't find anything illegal, but he may have unwittingly helped Russia." Hell, they knew going in they weren't going to find any illegal interaction with Russia. They did think that the open ended investigation would lead them to some crime they could hang on Trump. I am amazed that it didn't. I can't imagine a team of the most vicious agenda driven lawyers conducting an investigation on a billionaire international business magnate and not finding something he did wrong. It certainly will speak well of him and his team if they can't find anything. Hell, I probably made a mistake on my taxes at some point. Their pride and their agenda won't let them leave without some sort of scathing rebuke. The above is it.
And Democrats will celebrate with a great big "I told you so."
It's really a pretty good strategy for them. I just hope the new AG has the balls enough to seek justice.
Going on close to 2 years now and Jell0 hasn't been right about anything. He's going to be devastated when Mueller comes out with his report and says "Yeah sorry, no collusion to be found here folks". It will be epic I am sure.
Going on close to 2 years now and Jell0 hasn't been right about anything. He's going to be devastated when Mueller comes out with his report and says "Yeah sorry, no collusion to be found here folks". It will be epic I am sure.
He'll hang on the words of rebuke in Mueller's report. He'll hang on them as if they are clear evidence that Trump broke the law. Watch. That's why Mueller will pen them. He owes his supporters something.
“Not ALL FBI Agents are moral pariahs. 60% are good American patriots who joined the Agency in good faith expecting to serve their Country and put bad people behind bars.
The other 40% are Peter Strozk and Lisa Page. ALL of FBI HQ is populated by the Strozk/Page types. Recruitment of this type of Agent started under Mueller and continued under Comey. Mueller drove out all of the old school “Brick Agents” shortly after he became Director.
Mueller implemented an “up or out” policy where all SSAs were required to move to DC and do Headquarters time or lose their GS 14 pay grade. This policy change by Mueller purposely targeted the most senior Agents in the FBI who had finally earned the right to move their family to a medium sized office in fly over country, had teenage kids and were living a comfortable life.
Mueller knew these Agents would not uproot their families and move to DC. Hundreds of these senior Agents immediately retired. Literally thousands of years of investigative experience left the FBI overnight.
This is exactly what Mueller wanted. These were the men and women who would have called Mueller out when he started transforming the FBI from a criminal investigative organization into a domestic intelligence organization (it is illegal to collect intelligence on American citizens).
Mueller immediately began filling the ranks with Strozk/Page types. The FBI does extensive psychological screening of applicants. Stroke and Page are self interested, well-educated cowards whose only motivation is their own promotion and paycheck. In other words they are people who will be blindly loyal to the Agency and will obey any order no matter how un-Constitutional or unlawful. This is the psychological profile that Mueller and Comey actively recruited and hired.
On the flip-side, combat veterans, patriots, have been denied employment by the FBI at all costs (they all mysteriously fail the polygraph and background check).
The morale of the good Agents is at rock bottom. Everyone is retiring as soon as they are eligible. Younger Agents are leaving as soon as they can find another line of work. They are ashamed of the badge.
It is time to abolish the FBI. Make the 56 FBI field offices the Investigative Branch of DHS. Fire everyone in the FBI and make them re-apply for their job under new standards. President Trump can remodel FBIHQ into a hotel. Or better yet, burn it to the ground and salt the earth. Hang everyone on the 7th floor for treason.”
I'm glad it wasn't a troll to hit the milestone. Just think, with the Dems running the House, and Mueller still working, JeffO could spawn another 2500!
Looks like (as predicted) Barr is just another establishment hack following in the footsteps of Sessions and Rosenstein, doing water ever he can to protect the swamp and obstruct any real and honest investigations and indictments.
Who could not not see this coming? After all he is and was part of the Bush Dynasty.
What the Hell was President Trump thinking when he nominated a Bush Boy?
So much for Draining the Swamp and bringing justice back to Justice.
How long before we start hearing cries begging for Sessions return.
Democrats can't find a Smocking (sic) Gun tying the Trump campaign to Russia after James Comey's testimony. No Smocking (sic) Gun...No Collusion.' @FoxNews. That's because there was NO COLLUSION.
Donald Trump's lawyer, Giuliani, 5 weeks later:
"I never said there was no collusion between the campaign, or people in the campaign," Giuliani said. He added, "I said the President of the United States. There is not a single bit of evidence the President of the United States committed the only crime you can commit here, conspiring with the Russians to hack the DNC."
Bwa ha ha ha ha ha. Guess those dang Angry Democrats found them a smoking gun after all.
So now, they are conceding the campaign colluded. And they are pinning their, well, everything on Trump having ZERO knowledge or direction of this. Hint: they're lying. I mean, duh.
Donald Trump is a traitor. Anyone still carrying his water is a moron.
SEN. SHELDON WHITEHOUSE: I think that if there are crimes that he [President Trump] has committed, he should be indicted. I do not at all subscribe to the OLC theory that a president can’t be indicted. I think that the Office of Legal Counsel and Department of Justice bends over backward to take the most executive branch-friendly position that it possibly can. I think a court taking a look at this would say “no, no, no, no, no,” and if you look at the Nixon precedents and others, they don’t align with a president not being answerable to the public in this way. And it would create a terrible situation. You have a president, who the public knows is the subject of a criminal investigation, may very well be involved in criminal activity, and you don’t get a resolution of that question? You don’t get pressure on him to answer questions and get out? That doesn’t seem like an appropriate way to deal with it.
CHRISTOPHER CUOMO: Based on what you know right now, do you think you could bring a case against the president?
SEN. WHITEHOUSE: I would want to know a lot more. I’m at the stage, based on what I know, that I would be sitting down with the agents and say “okay, we need to run down this, we need to run down that, we need to pin down some things before we go.” We are certainly in a mode, I believe, of moving toward an indictment and charges of the president, but I do not believe, based on what I know — Mueller may know more — that we’re at the stage of actually being able to make the charge.
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Two years in. Democrat on Senate Judiciary Committee. Expresses deep desire to nail Trump. And admits: we got nothing.
Democrats can't find a Smocking (sic) Gun tying the Trump campaign to Russia after James Comey's testimony. No Smocking (sic) Gun...No Collusion.' @FoxNews. That's because there was NO COLLUSION.
Donald Trump's lawyer, Giuliani, 5 weeks later:
"I never said there was no collusion between the campaign, or people in the campaign," Giuliani said. He added, "I said the President of the United States. There is not a single bit of evidence the President of the United States committed the only crime you can commit here, conspiring with the Russians to hack the DNC."
Bwa ha ha ha ha ha. Guess those dang Angry Democrats found them a smoking gun after all.
So now, they are conceding the campaign colluded. And they are pinning their, well, everything on Trump having ZERO knowledge or direction of this. Hint: they're lying. I mean, duh.
Donald Trump is a traitor. Anyone still carrying his water is a moron.
Sheesh. I wunner if any on hitlerys campaign ever dealt with ruskies. Oh yeah. I memer hearing someting about 145 million. Isn't that kind of like the money China was slipping to Slick for Loral Spaces missile guidance tech? They called it Chinagate or sumtin. Said it was the biggest scandal in US history at the time. Some China people wentbto the pen and others got out of the states before the law cud huntem down iirc.
Democrats can't find a Smocking (sic) Gun tying the Trump campaign to Russia after James Comey's testimony. No Smocking (sic) Gun...No Collusion.' @FoxNews. That's because there was NO COLLUSION.
Donald Trump's lawyer, Giuliani, 5 weeks later:
"I never said there was no collusion between the campaign, or people in the campaign," Giuliani said. He added, "I said the President of the United States. There is not a single bit of evidence the President of the United States committed the only crime you can commit here, conspiring with the Russians to hack the DNC."
Bwa ha ha ha ha ha. Guess those dang Angry Democrats found them a smoking gun after all.
So now, they are conceding the campaign colluded. And they are pinning their, well, everything on Trump having ZERO knowledge or direction of this. Hint: they're lying. I mean, duh.
Donald Trump is a traitor. Anyone still carrying his water is a moron.
You do know that collusion and conspiracy are two different things right? For one thing, conspiracy is a criminal matter and collusion isn’t.
TDS is tough to shake, but with help you can have a rational future. It’ll take work on your part and we’re all pulling for ya.
<in July 2018>, Fox News contributor Guy Benson asked Giuliani, “Regardless of whether collusion would be a crime, is it still the position of you and your client that there was no collusion with the Russians whatsoever on behalf of the Trump campaign?” “Correct,” Giuliani responded.
Ok, let's just pretend for a moment that they weren't just lying their fool heads off about campaign collusion until it was just rammed up their lying asses by Mueller that indeed there WAS, and lots of it. It's a lot to ask, I know, I know, but let's pretend.
If we grant them that, then the inescapable conclusion is that the investigation is NOT a witch hunt, because it's now been revealed that unbeknownst to our noble, honest POTUS (PINO, actually, but remember we are in make-believe here), who would never ever EVER conspire with evil Russia to hork the election, HIS CAMPAIGN WAS DOING JUST THAT. Ergo, not a witch hunt at all. Rather, the Deep State is HELPING Mr. Trump root out this criminality in his campaign that he, in his patriotic fervor, didn't even know existed until this very moment!
He should, in that case, be publically thanking the Angry Democrats today. Is he?
--------- Of course, he isn't. PINO is a lying sack of [bleep]. His own lawyer now having conceded campaign collusion publically, and more on that below.... his presidency now hangs by a single solitary and very thin thread: that he never knew. Never. That there isn't one single piece of evidence that he knew, ever.
Hint: that's farcical on the face of it; he not only knew, he directed it.
On Giuliani, what a freaking clown show this so-called lawyer is. Fücknut can NOT keep his mouth shut and it keeps burning them. Birds of a feather flock together I guess, but WOW.
Jell-O is enjoying two blunts at a time....one he's smoking and the other one he's snuggling between his butt cheeks while he types more DU revelations.
<in July 2018>, Fox News contributor Guy Benson asked Giuliani, “Regardless of whether collusion would be a crime, is it still the position of you and your client that there was no collusion with the Russians whatsoever on behalf of the Trump campaign?” “Correct,” Giuliani responded.
Ok, let's just pretend for a moment that they weren't just lying their fool heads off about campaign collusion until it was just rammed up their lying asses by Mueller that indeed there WAS, and lots of it. It's a lot to ask, I know, I know, but let's pretend.
If we grant them that, then the inescapable conclusion is that the investigation is NOT a witch hunt, because it's now been revealed that unbeknownst to our noble, honest POTUS (PINO, actually, but remember we are in make-believe here), who would never ever EVER conspire with evil Russia to hork the election, HIS CAMPAIGN WAS DOING JUST THAT. Ergo, not a witch hunt at all. Rather, the Deep State is HELPING Mr. Trump root out this criminality in his campaign that he, in his patriotic fervor, didn't even know existed until this very moment!
He should, in that case, be publically thanking the Angry Democrats today. Is he?
--------- Of course, he isn't. PINO is a lying sack of [bleep]. His own lawyer now having conceded campaign collusion publically, and more on that below.... his presidency now hangs by a single solitary and very thin thread: that he never knew. Never. That there isn't one single piece of evidence that he knew, ever.
Hint: that's farcical on the face of it; he not only knew, he directed it.
On Giuliani, what a freaking clown show this so-called lawyer is. Fücknut can NOT keep his mouth shut and it keeps burning them. Birds of a feather flock together I guess, but WOW.
I know you aren't interested in a discussion at all, but I'll toss this out in the off chance someone else is. If there was EVIDENCE of this collusion (and remember to launch a special counsel the law says in effect there has to be more than evidence) then why in the name of God would the dossier that was KNOWN to be an unverified political product be the primary driving "evidence" behind the FISA warrants used to investigate that alleged collusion?
You see, when an honest, unbiased, thinking person asks that question of themselves they see that things don't quite add up.
<in July 2018>, Fox News contributor Guy Benson asked Giuliani, “Regardless of whether collusion would be a crime, is it still the position of you and your client that there was no collusion with the Russians whatsoever on behalf of the Trump campaign?” “Correct,” Giuliani responded.
Ok, let's just pretend for a moment that they weren't just lying their fool heads off about campaign collusion until it was just rammed up their lying asses by Mueller that indeed there WAS, and lots of it. It's a lot to ask, I know, I know, but let's pretend.
If we grant them that, then the inescapable conclusion is that the investigation is NOT a witch hunt, because it's now been revealed that unbeknownst to our noble, honest POTUS (PINO, actually, but remember we are in make-believe here), who would never ever EVER conspire with evil Russia to hork the election, HIS CAMPAIGN WAS DOING JUST THAT. Ergo, not a witch hunt at all. Rather, the Deep State is HELPING Mr. Trump root out this criminality in his campaign that he, in his patriotic fervor, didn't even know existed until this very moment!
He should, in that case, be publically thanking the Angry Democrats today. Is he?
--------- Of course, he isn't. PINO is a lying sack of [bleep]. His own lawyer now having conceded campaign collusion publically, and more on that below.... his presidency now hangs by a single solitary and very thin thread: that he never knew. Never. That there isn't one single piece of evidence that he knew, ever.
Hint: that's farcical on the face of it; he not only knew, he directed it.
On Giuliani, what a freaking clown show this so-called lawyer is. Fücknut can NOT keep his mouth shut and it keeps burning them. Birds of a feather flock together I guess, but WOW.
I know you aren't interested in a discussion at all, but I'll toss this out in the off chance someone else is. If there was EVIDENCE of this collusion (and remember to launch a special counsel the law says in effect there has to be more than evidence) then why in the name of God would the dossier that was KNOWN to be an unverified political product be the primary driving "evidence" behind the FISA warrants used to investigate that alleged collusion?
You see, when an honest, unbiased, thinking person asks that question of themselves they see that things don't quite add up.
Better yet, discuss "Collusion" and find any Federal Statute that defines "Collusion" as a crime.
Better yet, discuss "Collusion" and find any Federal Statute that defines "Collusion" as a crime.
Winner, winner...
I’d love to hear from one Hillary voter who seems to care so deeply about this news story explain why it doesn’t matter what Hillary did with her emails or Uranium One but it does matter that Trump went after oppo research on Hil offered by Russians.
It would appear that a certain Stable Genius (sic) was dumb enough to suborn perjury while leaving a big paper trail.
Oops.
That said, my personal core interest here is participation in the Russian attack on America. For that, he hangs. Without that, he's just another lying corrupt sleaze- I think you call them Swamp Creatures, in your cartoon level minds- , albeit a very incompetent and annoying one. Anyway, the obstruction and perjury and campaign finance stuff might well get him impeached, but not by ME. So to speak.
Now that Trump's so-called attorney has conceded campaign collusion, I've got a little numerical analysis for y'all. Let's pause a minute while you find your calculators. The math involves percentages and addition 'n [bleep] and you are, well, proven DUMBASSES. So go find your calculators, and we'll pick this up again in a bit. K? K.
Guys, sorry for the delay, I'm busy as the proverbial one-legged man getting parts washed & delivered and switching machines/fixtures over to the next job. Keep those calculators handy. You're gonna like my super duper Numerical Analysis because it will show just how right y'all are.
Better yet, discuss "Collusion" and find any Federal Statute that defines "Collusion" as a crime.
Winner, winner...
I’d love to hear from one Hillary voter who seems to care so deeply about this news story explain why it doesn’t matter what Hillary did with her emails or Uranium One but it does matter that Trump went after oppo research on Hil offered by Russians.
Guys, I'm not seeing a lot of enthusiasm for my soon-to-be-realeased Numerical Analysis. Can you at least please just PRETEND?! Man. Hurt a guy why dontcha.
Cohen has expressed both in word and in deed that he wants to get on the right side of this, for family and country, and from a historical perspective. He's in a position to know the severity of what he's trying to get on the right side of. Clearly, he's willing to trade 3 years of freedom for that. That should tell you something. Hint: it apparently doesn't.
Guys, I'm not seeing a lot of enthusiasm for my soon-to-be-realeased Numerical Analysis. Can you at least please just PRETEND?! Man. Hurt a guy why. dontcha.
Cohen has expressed both in word and in deed that he wants to get on the right side of this, for family and country, and from a historical perspective. He's in a position to know the severity of what he's trying to get on the right side of. Clearly, he's willing to trade 3 years of freedom for that. That should tell you something. Hint: it apparantky doesn't.
And we all know that Cohen is a man of integrity. He is to be trusted.
Guys, I'm not seeing a lot of enthusiasm for my soon-to-be-realeased Numerical Analysis. Can you at least please just PRETEND?! Man. Hurt a guy why dontcha.
Cohen has expressed both in word and in deed that he wants to get on the right side of this, for family and country, and from a historical perspective. He's in a position to know the severity of what he's trying to get on the right side of. Clearly, he's willing to trade 3 years of freedom for that. That should tell you something. Hint: it apparently doesn't.
Your pals are going to jail, before you all, go to hell.
Actually I am shocked. Shocked that Mueller would come forward with the truth.
Something doesn’t add up here.
Mueller leaks to Buzzfeed, then says Buzzfeed lied?
Like you, I am shocked that Mueller actually stepped in to disabuse everyone of false info. Seems odd.
What I am not shocked at is that the info itself was, apparently, false. Red flags all OVER on this one. As I posted before, if I am Cohen, and I can deliver Trump's head on a platter, I am either getting complete immunity from Mueller, or a pardon from Trump. Nobody (who has decided to cooperate with prosecutors) walks into the pen for 3 years and gives up their license to practice law for life with the mother of all hole cards in their hand.
Also, I wonder at what point it becomes incumbent on Mueller go public with truly damning information. For example, if, as alleged by Buzzfeed, the President suborned perjury and obstructed justice, what, you let him continue to perform the duties of the office of the President for months or years while you finish your investigation? That's a question I'd like to see addressed.
Guys, I'm not seeing a lot of enthusiasm for my soon-to-be-realeased Numerical Analysis. Can you at least please just PRETEND?! Man. Hurt a guy why dontcha.
Cohen has expressed both in word and in deed that he wants to get on the right side of this, for family and country, and from a historical perspective. He's in a position to know the severity of what he's trying to get on the right side of. Clearly, he's willing to trade 3 years of freedom for that. That should tell you something. Hint: it apparently doesn't.
I'm kinda wondering if the Trump admin just found their leaker?
One story I read today said that the source was a high up Trump Official..........Maybe they got a leaker and made the Fake News look like their asses they are, the proverbial "Two birds with one stone".
I'm kinda wondering if the Trump admin just found their leaker?
One story I read today said that the source was a high up Trump Official..........Maybe they got a leaker and made the Fake News look like their asses they are, the proverbial "Two birds with one stone".
We shall have to see if anyone gets their walking papers shortly.
Guys, I'm not seeing a lot of enthusiasm for my soon-to-be-realeased Numerical Analysis. Can you at least please just PRETEND?! Man. Hurt a guy why. dontcha.
Cohen has expressed both in word and in deed that he wants to get on the right side of this, for family and country, and from a historical perspective. He's in a position to know the severity of what he's trying to get on the right side of. Clearly, he's willing to trade 3 years of freedom for that. That should tell you something. Hint: it apparantky doesn't.
And we all know that Cohen is a man of integrity. He is to be trusted.
For sure. After all, Trump hired him for years, so he has to be good.
Actually I am shocked. Shocked that Mueller would come forward with the truth.
Something doesn’t add up here.
Mueller leaks to Buzzfeed, then says Buzzfeed lied?
Like you, I am shocked that Mueller actually stepped in to disabuse everyone of false info. Seems odd.
What I am not shocked at is that the info itself was, apparently, false. Red flags all OVER on this one. As I posted before, if I am Cohen, and I can deliver Trump's head on a platter, I am either getting complete immunity from Mueller, or a pardon from Trump. Nobody (who has decided to cooperate with prosecutors) walks into the pen for 3 years and gives up their license to practice law for life with the mother of all hole cards in their hand.
Also, I wonder at what point it becomes incumbent on Mueller go public with truly damning information. For example, if, as alleged by Buzzfeed, the President suborned perjury and obstructed justice, what, you let him continue to perform the duties of the office of the President for months or years while you finish your investigation? That's a question I'd like to see addressed.
The last point about it being incumbent on Mueller to come forward with truly damning information is an good one. I think it is becoming clear that Mueller's counterintelligence investigation is taking precedence over his criminal investigation. He is clearly holding off indictments for several people who clearly believe they will be indicted and this has been true since the beginning.
We are going to find out eventually that what Mueller is trying to get to the bottom of (international corruption between organized crime, corrupt foreign governments, corrupt international corporations and certain players in our government) is more important to him than Trump's head on a platter.
Trump is 72 years old and won't be around forever. The "iron triangles" global corruption that Mueller has been writing about and giving speeches about since 2011 will be around forever unless someone (Mueller) crushes it.
Whats taking precedence is Mueller investigating everyone he can to tie them up from being questioned by Huber or the senate in order to keep his own ass out of GITMO.
His criminal past may have endangered him to the point of flipping to save hisbown ass and if that's the case you wont like the result of his work.
Hilkary has begged Trump to deal but her hands have shed the blood of patriots so she will probably recieve no quarter.
Whats taking precedence is Mueller investigating everyone he can to tie them up from being questioned by Huber or the senate in order to keep his own ass out of GITMO.
His criminal past may have endangered him to the point of flipping to save hisbown ass and if that's the case you wont like the result of his work.
Hilkary has begged Trump to deal but her hands have shed the blood of patriots so she will probably recieve no quarter.
Had your cat walked back and forth across your keyboard the resultant characters on the page would make more sense than what you typed.
So, the exercise is goalpost-moving that defines the Individual-1 administration as they get caught in lie after lie after lie continues.
Now we've gone from (paraphrasing) "I have no business interests in Russia!" to an admission by PINO's own lawyer that that was a baldface lie, and in fact, PINO had a major venture in play literally up to the election.
It's our understanding that they went on throughout 2016,” Giuliani said, adding that “there weren't a lot of them, but there were conversations. Can't be sure [of] the exact dates, but the president can remember having conversations with him about it." Pressed by host Chuck Todd, Giuliani said that the discussions could have extended until October or November.
I love how he phrases it in the 3rd person.... "it's our understanding...". How about this, Rudy G: "My client is a pathological liar and we are now forced to admit he was lying to the American public about his Russian business interests right up to the election".
So, as he was running for POTUS, Individual-1 lied repeatedly to give Russia cover in it attack; he lied about the major biz deal he was pursuing in Moscow; his campaign chairman was passing granular polling data to Russia; and then, just to bring it full circle here, PINO lied ("could be a fat kid in moms basement") to facilitate the weaponization of that data, along with the hacked DNC stuff.
In short he's a proven lying traitorous POS who cheated and therefore is an illegitimate POTUS. You cannot alt.fact this away.
I’m guessing Jeff doesn’t even believe half of what he posts. He just does it to watch the aftermath and stir up the natives.
Yep. No one can be as dumb as he pretends to be. He says hes never wrong, then admits he voted for Zero on his first run but not the second. So why not the second time?.Or why the first time?
Ok, due to popular demand I'm releasing my much-anticipated Numerical Analysis (NA). To accomplish this, I used various maths and equations and shït. I've tried to make it retard-proof, but you guys are a steep challenge in that regard.
Please understand, I'm doing y'all a FAVOR here. More on that later.
The purpose of this NA is to quantify just how right tall have been and wrong I have been. I promise, you will get something to hang your tiny pinhead retard-hats on by the end of this, so buckle up and stick with me here. K? K.
First a couple facts. Trump fired Comey on May 9, 2017. As I type, that was 621 days ago. On May 10 I made my first post on this thread. Here it is:
Swamp-draining is fine by me but this wasn't that. In a bizarre way, Comey had credibility across the aisle. This was an ego- and emotion-based decision and, IMHO, a big mistake.
When was the last time we had a POTUS turtle up, fume for days, then fire the man investigating him? How'd that turn out?
My belief has been that there's a lot of "there" there in the Russian collusion mess. Might not reach Trump- might be confined to Page, Stone, Manafort, Flynn, or some combo, but I think it happened. I think law enforcement has been doing what they do: methodically building the case. I think this brings all that to a head. Guess we'll see. I kinda hope I'm wrong but I doubt it.
At which point- go see for yourselves, it's all right here archived on this thread- I was roundly mocked for how stoooopid that calm, rational, and as it turns out, CORRECT that opening statement was.
Let's close this one with this little nugget from Jaguar from right about then. Mined from this very thread- which by the way will be the MOTHER of all gold mines for examples of me being right and y'all being wrong. I can get YEARS of fun from just mining up this stuff! Good times, good times. Anyway, pretty funny in hindsight, eh? I sure think so.
Hat, the stupid SOB said he knew for certain Russia interferred in our election and they just hadnt as of yet found the evidence, indicating to the media that there had been collusion, which gave false hope to gullible suckers like Jell0.
So, getting back to my soon to be legendary NA: Giuliani conceded campaign collusion 3 days ago, so, 618 days since PINO fired Comey. While it would be soooo easy to go back to the Retard Mine (aka this thread) and dredge up any number of retard-nuggets where you [bleep] maroons told me how stoooopid I was for predicting same, I'll take the high road for the moment. You fücking retards deserve that level of respect from me.
Ok. So, I predicted, right here, on this thread, that it would be shown that Trump and/or high-ranking members of his campaign would be shown to have colluded by the midterms on Nov 6 2018. That was 75 days ago, or, put another way, it's been 72 days from the midterms to Giulliani's concession. Do I need to prove that "you" retards were unanimous (and frankly a bit hurtful to my lil feelers) in denying this?
So now we've done some simple maths. Let's pause again. Are you tracking so far? Should I slow down?
For the record, collusion WAS shown to have occurred by the midterms. But I'm feeling really generous today and as I said, I want to give y'all something to hang your pinhats on.
Aight fellas, take deep breaths. 3rd-grade maths inbound. DO NOT PANIC! I will asplain it more betterly than your 3rd-grade teacher so maybe you will understand this time. Ready?
For the record, collusion WAS shown to have occurred by the midterms.
No it wasn't,
you're connecting dots of your choice and manipulating it into your agenda.
But while Giuliani said Trump was mostly uninvolved in the discussions, Trump himself took credit for ending the deal last year, telling reporters multiple times that “I decided” not to pursue it.
For instance, he said on Nov. 29, 2018: “We had a position to possibly do a deal to build a building of some kind in Moscow. I decided not to do it. The primary reason — there could have been other reasons. But the primary reason, it was very simple: I was focused on running for president.“
your wetting your pants over some possible future building project, then trying to infer that's collusion involving an Election.
One hell of a stretch skippy...............
Just admit you hate the man, and move on with your life.
Righty then, 34 views since I typed that, so clearly the class is eyes-forward and quietly paying attention. Either that or stunned silent, and scared shïtless as the drubbing they are about to receive? Let's go with the former: a nice, polite, quiet group of retards listening intently. G'job, guys. Cookies at recess.
(real quick though: Jaguar sure shut his fücking PIEHOLE when he got his schnoz rubbed in his very own poop from earlier in the thread, huh? And Lordy Lordy this thread is a veritable goldmine of poop to rub schnozzes in. Let this be a lesson to the class. I ain't playin' ROUND here, yo!)
Ok, eyes forward, class! Bigfish, stop eating Jaguars boogers! Deflave, stop gazing wistfully at the sheep over there! EYES FORWARD!
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First, some subtraction. 618 - 72 = 546. I said we'd know by midterms (546 days) but it was 618 days before Trump's lawyer conceded collusion.
Now, a percentage. 546/618 = 88.3%
Now, more subtraction. 100% - 88.3% = 11.7%. This is important stuff. Are you with me so far?
Now here's the part I've been promising you. Looking at the time from the firing to PINO's own lawyer conceding campaign collusion as a "timeline" of 618 days, and my prediction of 546, that means that in this way of looking at it, you can be said to be 11.7% correct, while I was 88.3% correct. Dudes-and you too, Bigfish- that's HUGE for you! No longer can I just barge in, swinging my giant dick around like a bull in a china shop, and say I was right and you were wrong, because it's just not that simple! You WERE right! Not very much so, by hey, 11.7% is 11.7%, yeah?
Class, there's more to this NA, much more, but let's take a nice little pause here so you can enjoy the glow of your little self-esteemers getting a much needed boost. Also, I love you, you little scamps!
Ok class. Next lesson. As with most "maths", one thing kinda builds on the next, so use your pinbrains to try to follow here, ok?
With your self-esteem built up a bit (hang onto that warm fuzzy feeling like Deflave on a sheep-ass, ok retards?) we are going to inject a little mathematical reality-stuff. I know reality ain't really your thing these days but, shut the [bleep] up and listen anyway.
Unfortunately, for you I mean, there are some countermanding factors acting against that 11.7%. Don't get me wrong- you were still RIGHT! I WILL NOT take that away from you, I promise you that.
First, there were actually two considerations. First, the timeline. We already addressed that. Second, the notion of collusion itself. For simplicities sake, since you are fücking retards, let's give those equal weight for the moment. The simplest way to express this would be:
So, let's say out of 200 possible points, I scored 188.3 of them, and you retards scored 11.7 of them. If we express that as a percentage, we need to do some division that might be hard for you but please try:
11.7/2 = 5.6%. That is your new "rightness" factor.
So, again, there's more to come, but let's pause a minute so you 5.6%'ers can bask in the sheer glory of your victory. Yay retards!
Ok, due to popular demand I'm releasing my much-anticipated Numerical Analysis (NA). To accomplish this, I used various maths and equations and shït. I've tried to make it retard-proof, but you guys are a steep challenge in that regard.
Lie No 2. Please understand, I'm doing y'all a FAVOR here. More on that later.
Guys, guys, GUYS! Stop being such meany-poos! Enjoy the 5.6% I have given you! Revel in it! I mean, for the moment.
Look at it this way. You go to elk camp this fall. You're talking to some other hunters you meet a camp over. The 24hrCampfire comes up. One of them says, " Hey, wait a minute, are you guys the freaking morons that JeffO punked like whiny little bitches on that Comey thread?! Right there, in writing, archived forever?! You're fücking RETARDS, bro!"
But this is the great gift I have given you! Because now YOU can say: "Shuddup! We were partly RIGHT!" And dudes (you too, Bigfish)---- it'll be TRUE! You won't even be doing your normal lying-sack thing.
I give you this Great Gift, and this is the thanks I get. Sheesh.
So you been punked by a clinically insane person? Good JOB! Uh.... what kinda dumbass does that make YOU? Bwa ha ha.
As Mr. Bin is my witness, I don't have a single sock puppet. What would be the fun in THAT?! I win fair and square. As can be seen, right here, on this thread, archived.
Aight retards, let's finish up our NA so you can get to your remedial life-skills class.
I told you we'd be introducing a concept called a weighted average. Now I'll tell you about it.
The short-bus version is it's a way to apply weight to a statistic relative to other relevant statistics. As it pertains here, we have two basic arguments. First, the presence or absence of collusion. Second, the timeline by which it was shown. As we've seen, absent weighting you now can say you were 5.6% RIGHT! Woot woot! You're so freaking awesome and I want you to know that. I do love you and so does, I mean, pretty much everyone.
Sigh. I just love building self-esteem in retards.
Anyway. Onward. So, the question is, how do we decide if one is more important than the other, and if so, by how much?
Let's try a few hypotheticals.
- if Donald Trump's own lawyer had conceded campaign collusion say a week sooner or a week later than he did, how much would that matter in the big legal and political picture? I say, didly squat. However-- I'm listening here, guys! Really I am. I CARE about whatever retarded shït you cook up in your addled pinheads. So by all means, contest that as you see fit.
- second, legally and politically, how much difference is there between collusion NEVER being shown, vs. being shown? Example: say Mueller comes out and completely clears Trump, his campaign, and for extra credit gives Putin a hand job? How would that compare to, say, Mueller showing that Trump himself directed a conspiracy to attack America with Russia and then cover it up? By my assessment, that would be the biggest political event, either way, in our lifetimes.
So in short, we have didly squat vs. largest political event of the entire modern era.
So now, let's assign a weight. I think it's fair to say that the specific timeline by which collusion is revealed, within reason, is about a million times less important than the actual showing of same. I mean, duh? But, out of respect for your retard-feelers, let's reduce that by a factor of, uh, "a bunch", and assign it a weight of 100 relative to the timeline argument, which will get a 1. Put another way, it's 100 times more important whether or not a sitting POTUS (sic) and/or his campaign aided and abetted an attack on America than the specific date when that's revealed.
The TDS symptoms are moving much faster than I figured, it appears that it settles at the bottom of the brain stem and effects all manner of cognitive thought, it's almost as if it's a fact filter.
I hope the progress slows down a bit as I don't think the body can handle all the changes at once, the next 2 weeks should prove interesting.
The TDS symptoms are moving much faster than I figured, it appears that it settles at the bottom of the brain stem and effects all manner of cognitive thought, it's almost as if it's a fact filter.
I hope the progress slows down a bit as I don't think the body can handle all the changes at once, the next 2 weeks should prove interesting.
TDS is fascinating, though you're defining a bit backwards. Agree it'll be fun watching a certain segment of society go into full meltdown in the near future, though again, you've got things a bit, shall we say, backwards.
PS- don't tempt me to go back in this thread and quote you denying the very collusion that Trumps own lawyer has conceded. I already went back and looked. I could literally punk you guys Iindefinitely.... with your own dumbass words!
I think JellO is unraveling, maybe we need a suicide watch? I would normally suggest a wellness check but don't believe anyone cares enough to go to that much trouble.........
So now we come to the "tell you what I told you" portion of this lesson.
Using the power of Mathematics with advanced concepts like a Weighted Average I have demonstrated, to my chagrin, that you [bleep] are actually right. This is a shame I will carry forever. I will be careful, going forward, to acknowledge that in this great pissing match of ours, it has turned out that I was only 99.9% correct. Fawk ME! I'm gonna be licking this wound for a while. And fellas, big congratulations from me to you, sincerely, and in direct proportion* to your right-ness.
*that will be a Mathematical Lesson for another day. I'm tired.
I think JellO is unraveling, maybe we need a suicide watch? I would normally suggest a wellness check but don't believe anyone cares enough to go to that much trouble.........
He thinks a ass kicking is a kissing match. Crazy and cueer.
I think JellO is unraveling, maybe we need a suicide watch? I would normally suggest a wellness check but don't believe anyone cares enough to go to that much trouble.........
He thinks a ass kicking is a kissing match. Crazy and cueer.
Well, your right about one thing (see how nice I am?)..... I did kick y'alls asses on this thread.
Originally Posted by Jeff_O Let's pause a minute while you find your calculators. The math involves percentages and addition and we'll pick this up again in a bit. K? K.
Where did you get this "we" chitt, Kimo Sabe?
Lets pause a year, while you find a brain.
Sorry Jell0, but youre not cutting the mustard as a comedian either.
I think JellO is unraveling, maybe we need a suicide watch? I would normally suggest a wellness check but don't believe anyone cares enough to go to that much trouble.........
He thinks a ass kicking is a kissing match. Crazy and cueer.
Well, your right about one thing (see how nice I am?)..... I did kick y'alls asses on this thread.
Your wife could use this thread to have you committed, undoubtedly among other things.
I think JellO is unraveling, maybe we need a suicide watch? I would normally suggest a wellness check but don't believe anyone cares enough to go to that much trouble.........
This dude has been archived alright. Check out the difference in his posts from his first on this thread:
Originally Posted by Jeff_O
Swamp-draining is fine by me but this wasn't that. In a bizarre way, Comey had credibility across the aisle. This was an ego- and emotion-based decision and, IMHO, a big mistake.
When was the last time we had a POTUS turtle up, fume for days, then fire the man investigating him? How'd that turn out?
My belief has been that there's a lot of "there" there in the Russian collusion mess. Might not reach Trump- might be confined to Page, Stone, Manafort, Flynn, or some combo, but I think it happened. I think law enforcement has been doing what they do: methodically building the case. I think this brings all that to a head. Guess we'll see. I kinda hope I'm wrong but I doubt it.
To his last:
Originally Posted by Jeff_O
So you been punked by a clinically insane person? Good JOB! Uh.... what kinda dumbass does that make YOU? Bwa ha ha.
As Mr. Bin is my witness, I don't have a single sock puppet. What would be the fun in THAT?! I win fair and square. As can be seen, right here, on this thread, archived.
But while the retards are all here I do need to ask you this. Given that I predicted campaign collusion and you dumb fücks denied it, and now Giuliani has conceded it, WTF are you even basing your ball-busting on here? The .1%? That's weak sauce, in case you don't really understand how percentages work.
This dude has been archived alright. Check out the difference in his posts from his first on this thread:
Originally Posted by Jeff_O
Swamp-draining is fine by me but this wasn't that. In a bizarre way, Comey had credibility across the aisle. This was an ego- and emotion-based decision and, IMHO, a big mistake.
When was the last time we had a POTUS turtle up, fume for days, then fire the man investigating him? How'd that turn out?
My belief has been that there's a lot of "there" there in the Russian collusion mess. Might not reach Trump- might be confined to Page, Stone, Manafort, Flynn, or some combo, but I think it happened. I think law enforcement has been doing what they do: methodically building the case. I think this brings all that to a head. Guess we'll see. I kinda hope I'm wrong but I doubt it.
To his last:
Originally Posted by Jeff_O
So you been punked by a clinically insane person? Good JOB! Uh.... what kinda dumbass does that make YOU? Bwa ha ha.
As Mr. Bin is my witness, I don't have a single sock puppet. What would be the fun in THAT?! I win fair and square. As can be seen, right here, on this thread, archived.
This dude has been archived alright. Check out the difference in his posts from his first on this thread:
Originally Posted by Jeff_O
Swamp-draining is fine by me but this wasn't that. In a bizarre way, Comey had credibility across the aisle. This was an ego- and emotion-based decision and, IMHO, a big mistake.
When was the last time we had a POTUS turtle up, fume for days, then fire the man investigating him? How'd that turn out?
My belief has been that there's a lot of "there" there in the Russian collusion mess. Might not reach Trump- might be confined to Page, Stone, Manafort, Flynn, or some combo, but I think it happened. I think law enforcement has been doing what they do: methodically building the case. I think this brings all that to a head. Guess we'll see. I kinda hope I'm wrong but I doubt it.
To his last:
Originally Posted by Jeff_O
So you been punked by a clinically insane person? Good JOB! Uh.... what kinda dumbass does that make YOU? Bwa ha ha.
As Mr. Bin is my witness, I don't have a single sock puppet. What would be the fun in THAT?! I win fair and square. As can be seen, right here, on this thread, archived.
Strange transformation.
I've followed you dorks down the retard-hole. When in Rome, etc.
And trust me, dead serious now, you guys are the ones who've transformed these last few years.
But while the retards are all here I do need to ask you this. Given that I predicted campaign collusion and you dumb fücks denied it, and now Giuliani has conceded it, WTF are you even basing your ball-busting on here? The .1%? That's weak sauce, in case you don't really understand how percentages work.
It also appears that illusions of grandeur are another symptom,.............Interesting.
It ain't that I'm grand, buddy. It's that you guys have been complete morons.
Truth^^^. You cant even make a complete sentence. Ex: Its that you guys have......
You could exchange that period for a comma and contract the structure and give us a real sentence.
Originally Posted by Jeff_O
But while the retards are all here I do need to ask you this. Given that I predicted campaign collusion and you dumb fücks denied it, and now Giuliani has conceded it, WTF are you even basing your ball-busting on here? The .1%? That's weak sauce, in case you don't really understand how percentages work.
And you could stop being a nitpicking puss and answer that question. But 'cept you can't, because then you'd have to man up and admit I was right and you were wrong. 99.9% / .1% notwithstanding.
This dude has been archived alright. Check out the difference in his posts from his first on this thread:
Originally Posted by Jeff_O
Swamp-draining is fine by me but this wasn't that. In a bizarre way, Comey had credibility across the aisle. This was an ego- and emotion-based decision and, IMHO, a big mistake.
When was the last time we had a POTUS turtle up, fume for days, then fire the man investigating him? How'd that turn out?
My belief has been that there's a lot of "there" there in the Russian collusion mess. Might not reach Trump- might be confined to Page, Stone, Manafort, Flynn, or some combo, but I think it happened. I think law enforcement has been doing what they do: methodically building the case. I think this brings all that to a head. Guess we'll see. I kinda hope I'm wrong but I doubt it.
To his last:
Originally Posted by Jeff_O
So you been punked by a clinically insane person? Good JOB! Uh.... what kinda dumbass does that make YOU? Bwa ha ha.
As Mr. Bin is my witness, I don't have a single sock puppet. What would be the fun in THAT?! I win fair and square. As can be seen, right here, on this thread, archived.
Strange transformation.
From my studies it is the natural progression of the disease.
But while the retards are all here I do need to ask you this. Given that I predicted campaign collusion and you dumb fücks denied it, and now Giuliani has conceded it, WTF are you even basing your ball-busting on here? The .1%? That's weak sauce, in case you don't really understand how percentages work.
He jumps in and illustrates my point. He's transformed from discussing his side to becoming a confrontational bore.
Oh, you poor sweet thing! Am I too confrontational for you delicate lil' flowers? Should I call you a wahmbulance?
That's just comical, that the confrontational crap is due to ME. I tried to be reasonable here for YEARS. And you know it. Stop being a sore loser, hatari.
But while the retards are all here I do need to ask you this. Given that I predicted campaign collusion and you dumb fücks denied it, and now Giuliani has conceded it, WTF are you even basing your ball-busting on here? The .1%? That's weak sauce, in case you don't really understand how percentages work.
You could, you know, answer this simple question. Except you can't. Pussies.
How about someone- ANYONE!- shows they have a shred of manhood left and admits you were wrong on this thread? What, are your balls in Trump's pocket or something?
But while the retards are all here I do need to ask you this. Given that I predicted campaign collusion and you dumb fücks denied it, and now Giuliani has conceded it, WTF are you even basing your ball-busting on here? The .1%? That's weak sauce, in case you don't really understand how percentages work.
You could, you know, answer this simple question. Except you can't. Pussies.
How about someone- ANYONE!- shows they have a shred of manhood left and admits you were wrong on this thread? What, are your balls in Trump's pocket or something?
He jumps in and illustrates my point. He's transformed from discussing his side to becoming a confrontational bore.
Oh, you poor sweet thing! Am I too confrontational for you delicate lil' flowers? Should I call you a wahmbulance?
That's just comical, that the confrontational crap is due to ME. I tried to be reasonable here for YEARS. And you know it. Stop being a sore loser, hatari.
Besides, you guys don't discuss, you circle-jerk.
You know, there was a day when I did engage with you in a civilzed manner. You weren't so looney then.
But while the retards are all here I do need to ask you this. Given that I predicted campaign collusion and you dumb fücks denied it, and now Giuliani has conceded it, WTF are you even basing your ball-busting on here? The .1%? That's weak sauce, in case you don't really understand how percentages work.
You guys are dodging.......
I am not and never have dodged you. We already have a bet for a box of bullets. Want to up the ante?
Another box of bullets says the Justice department will NEVER EVER charge ANYONE with "collusion".
He jumps in and illustrates my point. He's transformed from discussing his side to becoming a confrontational bore.
Oh, you poor sweet thing! Am I too confrontational for you delicate lil' flowers? Should I call you a wahmbulance?
That's just comical, that the confrontational crap is due to ME. I tried to be reasonable here for YEARS. And you know it. Stop being a sore loser, hatari.
Besides, you guys don't discuss, you circle-jerk.
Do you normally call men "sweet thing" and you keep referring to us as puzzies.
But while the retards are all here I do need to ask you this. Given that I predicted campaign collusion and you dumb fücks denied it, and now Giuliani has conceded it, WTF are you even basing your ball-busting on here? The .1%? That's weak sauce, in case you don't really understand how percentages work.
You guys are dodging.......
I am not and never have dodged you. We already have a bet for a box of bullets. Want to up the ante?
Another box of bullets says the Justice department will NEVER EVER charge ANYONE with "collusion".
Jell0, since its evident you only listen to fake news, i will share some uncomfortable truths.
Hillary and the DNC paid for the fake Russian Dossier. Comey knew it, Mueller knew it, C Steele knew it, Hillary knew it, Bruce Ohr knew it, Stzrok knew it, McCabe knew it, Zero knew it and Lisa Page knew it was BS.,
Jell0 didnt know it and he swallowed it, hook, line and sinker.
Bruce Ohr told them Hillary and the DNC paid for it. C Steele didnt believe it.
Okie, you are the one person with whom, if memory serves, I might have successfully consummated an actual bet. You'll want to go read the language I was proposing. I was very precise in my wording and that was not by accident; in fact, it's why I was resistant at the time to, say, Jorge: he kept changing the wording, for one thing, but for the other he wasn't paying attention to what I was actually saying, as evidenced by his comment at the time how he'd win because, snork snork, collusion is not a crime. So he was just gonna do his usual weasel his way out (in his mind) thing anyway.
But to my point, I never bet that it WAS a crime. Go back and look. Anyway, if indeed we completed the simple contract that is a bet, then we'll need to have a conversation about what it means for collusion to be demonstrated. Because it WAS. Maybe you see it differently. You are one of tge very few folks around here who've behaved honorably and I'd be happy to have that talk. Just PM me. Should we determine a bet occurred and a box of bullets needs to change hands then that's what'll happen on my end and, I trust, the same is true from you.
By the way, contrary to popular belief, collusion actually IS an enumerated crime in the Federal justice codes or whatever they are called. True fact! A former prosecutor, again if memory serves, found it mentioned somewhere. I read an article. Might have bookmarked it, I'll look. Regardless, there's no shortage of enumerated specific crimes that fall under the general descriptor "collusion". Conspiracy to defraud jumps right to mind.
And for the Monday crowd, I highly recommended you go back a few pages and read my highly acclaimed and soon to be award-winning* Numerical Analysis that shows that, fück ME, you guys are actually right! Not 100% right but.... anyway, just check it out.
* the "Using Math.... to Dispel Egregious Retardation" (Um....Der) group has contacted me and apparently, I get an award, some cash... a story in their trade rag.... crazy!
You may notice how non-confrontational I'm being today. You can thank Hatari for that. He made it clear that me being a stiff dick was putting the hurt on the many tender vaginas here. I am so sorry about that and will strive to be much more gentle with you in the future.
Okie, you are the one person with whom, if memory serves, I might have successfully consummated an actual bet. You'll want to go read the language I was proposing. I was very precise in my wording and that was not by accident; in fact, it's why I was resistant at the time to, say, Jorge: he kept changing the wording, for one thing, but for the other he wasn't paying attention to what I was actually saying, as evidenced by his comment at the time how he'd win because, snork snork, collusion is not a crime. So he was just gonna do his usual weasel his way out (in his mind) thing anyway.
But to my point, I never bet that it WAS a crime. Go back and look. Anyway, if indeed we completed the simple contract that is a bet, then we'll need to have a conversation about what it means for collusion to be demonstrated. Because it WAS. Maybe you see it differently. You are one of tge very few folks around here who've behaved honorably and I'd be happy to have that talk. Just PM me. Should we determine a bet occurred and a box of bullets needs to change hands then that's what'll happen on my end and, I trust, the same is true from you.
By the way, contrary to popular belief, collusion actually IS an enumerated crime in the Federal justice codes or whatever they are called. True fact! A former prosecutor, again if memory serves, found it mentioned somewhere. I read an article. Might have bookmarked it, I'll look. Regardless, there's no shortage of enumerated specific crimes that fall under the general descriptor "collusion". Conspiracy to defraud jumps right to mind.
"A box of bullets says Trump won't finish his first term."
This is our first bet.
The additional bet I am proposing is just as straight to the point as the first. You want some of it?
In the spirit of nonconfrontationalism I am offering up something that perhaps we can all agree on, which is that Rudy G. is a spectacularly bad "spokeslawyer". Yes?
Most recently, he said- he SAID- that he worried his tombstone would say he lied for Trump. Then he walked it back but DUDE... really?!
He also said, again, that the proposed Moscow Trump Tower that, well, everyone involved lied about, had no plans, nothing to look at here folks, just a letter of intent, which he famously said wasn't even signed, only to have a signed copy rammed up his butt the very next day (hey, I'm confronting Rudy G. here, I mean THATS ok, right Hatari?).
The problem is either he's lying through his teeth, or people are lying to him and then he's passing it along. Either way, it throws the bright lights on the issue that this group has, which is getting caught blatantly lying over, and over, and OVER about all things Russia. We can agree about that, yeah? Still trying to be nonconfrontationalistic here. We do agree that they've been caught in a series of lies, yes? Could be innocent; perfectly explainable, etc, but we agree they've been lying?
Anyway, here's a link to a The Hill story about the Trump Tower plans. Apparently it was gonna be quite the place! Perhaps, when Mr. Trump is finished Making America Great Again, he'll get to build it. Here's hoping!
Look at the look, of your NWO illuminati puppet crooks. Your puppets and clowns forb those who own your nations banks and feed your contrymens kids dope are going down. Still, you valiantly fight on trying to protect the Khazarian Mafia in its quest to rule the world by trying to convince us to believe the lies of their complicit press.
Youve been swallowing ther BS since you were a little kid and now youve grown up to be a big dumb ass.
Come on genius, tell us of the great and wonderful benefits of open borders. I bet you cant.
Look at their looks, when confronted with the thought of having their crimes brought out.
In the spirit of nonconfrontationalism I am offering up something that perhaps we can all agree on, which is that Rudy G. is a spectacularly bad "spokeslawyer". Yes?
Most recently, he said- he SAID- that he worried his tombstone would say he lied for Trump. Then he walked it back but DUDE... really?!
He also said, again, that the proposed Moscow Trump Tower that, well, everyone involved lied about, had no plans, nothing to look at here folks, just a letter of intent, which he famously said wasn't even signed, only to have a signed copy rammed up his butt the very next day (hey, I'm confronting Rudy G. here, I mean THATS ok, right Hatari?).
The problem is either he's lying through his teeth, or people are lying to him and then he's passing it along. Either way, it throws the bright lights on the issue that this group has, which is getting caught blatantly lying over, and over, and OVER about all things Russia. We can agree about that, yeah? Still trying to be nonconfrontationalistic here. We do agree that they've been caught in a series of lies, yes? Could be innocent; perfectly explainable, etc, but we agree they've been lying?
Anyway, here's a link to a The Hill story about the Trump Tower plans. Apparently it was gonna be quite the place! Perhaps, when Mr. Trump is finished Making America Great Again, he'll get to build it. Here's hoping!
Isn't the political dysfunction in DC just a hoot to witness? If nothing else the last few years have been highly entertaining. However this all shakes out I think we can all agree that we've gotten our money's worth in that sense.
I'm sure everyone has noted that Roger Stone, he of the Nixon tattoo on his back (can we all agree: uh, ick?) (also, if it's a tramp-stamp, that's just WEIRD) was indicted today for what's become the standard menu of lawbreaking from this crew. Also, I'm sure you've all noted the White House response which, due to the sheer volume of indictments of this type, has become rote. But in the spirit of cooperation as we work together to find the truth, practicing nonconfrontationalism as we go, you might not have noticed this. So I'm just helping out my brothers from other mothers here, in case you didn't. Bolding mine.
In the court documents, the special counsel's office wrote that after WikiLeaks began releasing internal Democratic National Committee emails in the summer of 2016, an unidentified "senior Trump campaign official was directed to contact Stone about any additional releases and what other damaging information [Wikileaks] had regarding the Clinton Campaign." "Stone thereafter told the Trump Campaign about potential future releases of damaging material by [Wikileaks]," prosecutors say.
See, I have to wonder. Who exactly "directs" a senior campaign official? But that's just me being, I dunno, all weird and conspiratorial probably.
Raeford, I know about process crimes. While the term is meant by you to minimize the apparent severity of same, they are in fact highly consequential in this instance for several reasons. First, the alleged conspiracy is literally a threat to our very democracy; therefore obstructing the understanding and prosecution of same matters large. Second, since a sitting POTUS can't be indicted (probably), prosecutors have to approach the crime obliquely. Third, since the apparent ringleader-- POTUS-- is the nominal head of law enforcement in America the very existence of a huge cloud of lies and outright obstructionist behaviors across a small army of individuals close to said POTUS is, shall we say noteworthy.
Friend Raeford, I hope that helped YOU understand "process crimes" as they relate to this current moment. If not, feel free to PM me and I'll be glad to help you understand, and all in a very nonconfrontational manner.
But that's not why I chose to burn a few minutes here tonight on this wonderful discussion forum. I just wanted to point something out in case you guys had missed it, or, in your partisan blood frenzy, didn't give it proper weight. I don't mean "partisan blood frenzy" confrontationally, it's just my attempt to encapsulate what I'm seeing here. If it's an offensive term, please let me know how you'd LIKE to be described when you are foaming at the mouth and acting irrationally. I aims to please.
ANYway, silly me, I digress. Just wanted to point out what might've seen like just a lil ol' nuthin to you fellas, but in fact is an interesting semantics "tell"... to wit:
"....the question, and the big thing, is that the Mueller investigation is supposed to center on is whether or not the president in some outrageous way colluded with Russia and the answer to that is no.”
That's the esteemable Ms. Sanders. In the least confrontationalistic way possible, I just want to point out that goalpost has been moved yet again. Now we need "outrageous" collusion to move the needle, says Ms. Sanders. Also, she's factually incorrect WRT to Mueller's mandate.
Make of that what you will, my good and dear friends.
Lets see. Manafort charged with lying to the FBI. Flynn charged with lying. Cohen charged with lying. Stone charged with lying. Hummm. Are we seeing a pattern here? Msm jumps in with both feet on each case, blinded to justice by hate. No charges connected to Trump. Do you maybe see a hint of a pattern? Can you get a clue of anything unless CNN tells you to? Every time you and the press go crazy as a beagle and run the trail down a rabbit hole and catch nothing. TDS.
Did you evenn consider Sarah? Sarah Sanders asked when Hillary would be charged with lying.
You and the stupid and treasonous MSM have been suckered in.
The truths that are revealed to you on the Fire are comming in a way you wont ignore.
Again, I want to extend the warmest possible morning greetings to my fellow truth-seekers! As we progress together through this process of enlightenment it's my sincere wish that as the picture becomes clear to even you guys, it's as painless as possible.
Really! Any good debate requires two sides, and while the scales are certainly tilted towards my ongoing interpretation of events, in the sense that I've actually been lucky enough to be almost 100% correct, it bears remembering that you guys have not been 100% WRONG. I will refer you to my award-winning Numerical Analysis a few pages back for further illumination.
Aight, let's get to work. I'm sure we've all been wondering, on all sides of this, what the HELL is Rudy G. up to?! Why would a presidents' personal lawyer publically concede highly damning points that said POTUS has denied literally since the election? I mean, not to overuse the word, but it makes Trump out as a literal, serial, liar on multiple very important issues. So why would he do that?
Here's an insightful The Hill article asking just that. The Hill is hardly a bastion of liberalism so I offer this in good faith and in my continuing efforts to be as nonconfrontationalistic as possible.
In a nutshell, the author opines that Rudy G. knows what Trump revealed to Mueller in the written questions he filled out under oath, so he knows what's coming so to speak. And he finds himself acting as a sort of goofy short-necked "bridge" from the alt.facts based reality Trump has tried to create for you, dear friends, and the actual fact-based reality the rest of us inhabit. An unenviable task to be sure; given that he has now publically conceded that Trump had a major financial interest in Russia that Putin held the key to, and further that at a bare minimum there was campaign collusion with Russia. Notably, those are both things Trump lied about repeatedly and directly, and they both matter a LOT. Anyway, enough of my silly little analysis, here's the story itself.
So, I'm working today in the shop, cutting bearing pockets to a tolerance of a couple ten-thou as it happens, because I'm gonna take a couple days off early in the week to go slay fish and I don't want to feel guilty. While engaging, it does leave me some time to reflect on my many faults. On that note, I feel I need to do a better job explaining to Raeford the significance of a process crime in this specific case.
But first, now I'm worried that some here will feel I'm not practicing nonconfrontationalisticisms by mentioning I'm doing precision machine work for a high rate of pay. Guys, I KNOW for a fact that whatever work it is you do, it is meaningful! It's manly! It has VALUE. It's difficult, at least for you, because I know you want to achieve excellence just as I do. And I SALUTE your contributions to this fine nation's economy!! Salute!
Ok, so, process crimes. If the process being undertaken by LEO's is insignificant, such as let's say figuring out who's dog pooped on the sidewalk ILLEGALLY.... then yes, to prosecute for a process crime, in this case lying about one's dog shït, would be silly.
But now let's imagine something different. Let's imagine that a foreign adversary mounted an attack on the single most foundational principle of our democracy, namely free and fair elections. Without which, we'd be a banana republic. Let's further say that some unpatriotic Americans helped in this attack. I'd say that would bear investigating, wouldn't you agree? Good. (side note: This whole nonconfrontationalism stuff is sooooo much better than arguing in that regard!) At any rate, in such a case, process crimes- particularly impeding said investigation or even outright lying to investigators- becomes a pretty big deal, right fellas? It's literally interfering with an investigation into an attack on America! Man, that just gives me the all-over willies. In addition, of course, though I would never presume that the folks around Trump are anything but fine, upstanding, patriotic Americans I think we all have to agree that lying to impede the investigation of such an attack does make one seem a tad bit guilty. I mean, I wouldn't lie to the FBI investigating an attack on America! Nor would you fine people. Yet they did. It has a bad look to it, is all I'm saying.
So, friend Raeford, it turns out these process crimes are about as serious as a heart attack.
Sure is great sharing thoughts and most importantly FEELINGS with y'all as we search for the evil perpetrators of this attack. You guys are the BEST and I value our relationship beyond my meager abilities to express. Have a great day, guys!
After two years and 200 interviews, the Senate Intelligence Committee is approaching the end of its investigation into the 2016 election, having uncovered no direct evidence of a conspiracy between the Trump campaign and Russia, according to both Democrats and Republicans on the committee.
Well, rumor has it Mueller drops his report soon. Clearly, the public will end up seeing it one way or the other; I don't think Barr is a Trump patsy and there's certainly significant, shall we say, public interest in transparency here.
We already know via his own lawyer's screwup that Trump's campaign manager (Manafort) actively colluded. Whether the conspiracy to defraud America extended to Donald Trump Sr. is really the only question left at this point. We also know that POTUS and basically everyone around him lied their asses off and attempted to impede and, let's just use the word, obstruct the investigation at every turn. Not a good look, that. Not what, oh I don't know, "innocent people" generally do?
But, we will find out sooner than later, it appears.
But, we will find out sooner than later, it appears.
Phuuuck..........I hope so! You’ve been growing more and more manic about how imminent repercussions were coming for a while now. I’m genuinely interested as to what you’re going to do when your fantasyland comes crashing in.
Hopefully the THC keeps you from doing anything too final.
Are you kidding? he's probably celebrating the latest insanity by Nadler (shalom) of launching over 80 subpoenas to go over the same crap and is probably in a dope addled stupor. That or going through therapy about ladder PTSD. But yes, OD would be excellent..
The Clintons managed to corrupt all the departments before they left office to the extent we may never get them straight again. Then Obama carried on where they left off. Were supposed to trust the Abbot and Costello investigations of their cronies? There's plenty of evidence they are incapable of honorable work concerning the country. We have a government so corrupted it may take another shooting war to straighten it out again and that ain't a happening.
The game is methodical, if slow, but the result is looking less and less pleasant for Trumpeteers. Every rat hole is slowly be excavated and plugged. The Donald will eventually be on an island all by himself, surrounded by hungry sharks. The water is definitely rising.
The game is methodical, if slow, but the result is looking less and less pleasant for Trumpeteers. Every rat hole is slowly be excavated and plugged. The Donald will eventually be on an island all by himself, surrounded by hungry sharks. The water is definitely rising.
Ya, I like the part about being on an island all by himself...... hmmm have you seen the crowds at his rallies? and by hungry sharks do you mean the Bolshevik Dem's like Pelosi, Schummer, Shiff etc...
Or maybe Maxine Waters? why don't you just move to Cuba or maybe Venezuela ,they are aligned with your values? of course you wont.... you are a parasite and wouldn't survive in those places, no tit for you to suck off of.
I think you and JellO will be the ones on an island.....
The game is methodical, if slow, but the result is looking less and less pleasant for Trumpeteers. Every rat hole is slowly be excavated and plugged. The Donald will eventually be on an island all by himself, surrounded by hungry sharks. The water is definitely rising.
Who exactly did you say you are[other handle-s here at the Fire]? Oh, you wouldn't come out and state that info, just that LB IS a sock-puppet.]
The game is methodical, if slow, but the result is looking less and less pleasant for Trumpeteers. Every rat hole is slowly be excavated and plugged. The Donald will eventually be on an island all by himself, surrounded by hungry sharks. The water is definitely rising.
Get fitted for your straight jacket yet? Trump is here till 2024. LOL
So is Leroy , Rolling thunder & JellO the same person? they sound an awful lot alike..... but then the rank & file Bolsheviks are natural "followers" they love the same talking points... Useful idiots....... Stalin, Hitler etc.... loved people like them
The game is methodical, if slow, but the result is looking less and less pleasant for Trumpeteers. Every rat hole is slowly be excavated and plugged. The Donald will eventually be on an island all by himself, surrounded by hungry sharks. The water is definitely rising.
LOL.................watching the left meltdown when Trump is exonerated will be fun to watch. Stupid posts like this are just a precursor of what's to come.
So is Leroy , Rolling thunder & JellO the same person? they sound an awful lot alike..... but then the rank & file Bolsheviks are natural "followers" they love the same talking points... Useful idiots....... Stalin, Hitler etc.... loved people like them
The game is methodical, if slow, but the result is looking less and less pleasant for Trumpeteers. Every rat hole is slowly be excavated and plugged. The Donald will eventually be on an island all by himself, surrounded by hungry sharks. The water is definitely rising.
I get such a chuckle out of the desperation you fools must feel. 😂
The game is methodical, if slow, but the result is looking less and less pleasant for Trumpeteers. Every rat hole is slowly be excavated and plugged. The Donald will eventually be on an island all by himself, surrounded by hungry sharks. The water is definitely rising.
LOL.................watching the left meltdown when Trump is exonerated will be fun to watch. Stupid posts like this are just a precursor of what's to come.
Watching the right melt down right now is pretty fun.
So is Leroy , Rolling thunder & JellO the same person? they sound an awful lot alike..... but then the rank & file Bolsheviks are natural "followers" they love the same talking points... Useful idiots....... Stalin, Hitler etc.... loved people like them
I could not begin or care to guess.
What did you say that your 'other' handle is here when admitting to being a sock-puppet?
The game is methodical, if slow, but the result is looking less and less pleasant for Trumpeteers. Every rat hole is slowly be excavated and plugged. The Donald will eventually be on an island all by himself, surrounded by hungry sharks. The water is definitely rising.
Your wishful, moronic thinking will in the end, frustrate you even more than the pathetic douche bag you already are....
So is Leroy , Rolling thunder & JellO the same person? they sound an awful lot alike..... but then the rank & file Bolsheviks are natural "followers" they love the same talking points... Useful idiots....... Stalin, Hitler etc.... loved people like them
The game is methodical, if slow, but the result is looking less and less pleasant for Trumpeteers. Every rat hole is slowly be excavated and plugged. The Donald will eventually be on an island all by himself, surrounded by hungry sharks. The water is definitely rising.
Tell us how your leader would step up at the plate, if she only could.
LOL.................watching the left meltdown when Trump is exonerated will be fun to watch. Stupid posts like this are just a precursor of what's to come.
The game is methodical, if slow, but the result is looking less and less pleasant for Trumpeteers. Every rat hole is slowly be excavated and plugged. The Donald will eventually be on an island all by himself, surrounded by hungry sharks. The water is definitely rising.
LOL.................watching the left meltdown when Trump is exonerated will be fun to watch. Stupid posts like this are just a precursor of what's to come.
Watching the right melt down right now is pretty fun.
Good luck with your predictions.
Bombshell. The beginning of the end. The walls are closing in. Now the rope is getting tighter.
The game is methodical, if slow, but the result is looking less and less pleasant for Trumpeteers. Every rat hole is slowly be excavated and plugged. The Donald will eventually be on an island all by himself, surrounded by hungry sharks. The water is definitely rising.
Who exactly did you say you are[other handle-s here at the Fire]? Oh, you wouldn't come out and state that info, just that LB IS a sock-puppet.]
I love the way you guys are so good and so quick at deflection. Lets me know that I was right on the mark. Again.
The game is methodical, if slow, but the result is looking less and less pleasant for Trumpeteers. Every rat hole is slowly be excavated and plugged. The Donald will eventually be on an island all by himself, surrounded by hungry sharks. The water is definitely rising.
Who exactly did you say you are[other handle-s here at the Fire]? Oh, you wouldn't come out and state that info, just that LB IS a sock-puppet.]
I love the way you guys are so good and so quick at deflection. Lets me know that I was right on the mark. Again.
Is what you continually fail to realize is that it isn't so much deflection as it is nobody gives a flying fuqk what you think, It really is that simple.
The game is methodical, if slow, but the result is looking less and less pleasant for Trumpeteers. Every rat hole is slowly be excavated and plugged. The Donald will eventually be on an island all by himself, surrounded by hungry sharks. The water is definitely rising.
Who exactly did you say you are[other handle-s here at the Fire]? Oh, you wouldn't come out and state that info, just that LB IS a sock-puppet.]
I love the way you guys are so good and so quick at deflection. Lets me know that I was right on the mark. Again.
Is what you continually fail to realize is that it isn't so much deflection as it is nobody gives a flying fuqk what you think, It really is that simple.
Quite the contrary, actually. It seems that you and many others simply cannot resist replying, so obviously you care. You can't help yourself, you care so much.
It appears some evidence of Russian collusion has surfaced...... JeffO , before you get too excited you had better read the link first, there was collusion with Russia ... A hint ... it wasn't Trump colluding... if you had a shred of integrity you would objectively read this.....
The game is methodical, if slow, but the result is looking less and less pleasant for Trumpeteers. Every rat hole is slowly be excavated and plugged. The Donald will eventually be on an island all by himself, surrounded by hungry sharks. The water is definitely rising.
Who exactly did you say you are[other handle-s here at the Fire]? Oh, you wouldn't come out and state that info, just that LB IS a sock-puppet.]
I love the way you guys are so good and so quick at deflection. Lets me know that I was right on the mark. Again.
Is what you continually fail to realize is that it isn't so much deflection as it is nobody gives a flying fuqk what you think, It really is that simple.
Quite the contrary, actually. It seems that you and many others simply cannot resist replying, so obviously you care. You can't help yourself, you care so much.
Trump's got you liberal morons running around like retards at a bouncy ball court. So far the only thin the Democrats have proven is their stupidity.
The game is methodical, if slow, but the result is looking less and less pleasant for Trumpeteers. Every rat hole is slowly be excavated and plugged. The Donald will eventually be on an island all by himself, surrounded by hungry sharks. The water is definitely rising.
Who exactly did you say you are[other handle-s here at the Fire]? Oh, you wouldn't come out and state that info, just that LB IS a sock-puppet.]
I love the way you guys are so good and so quick at deflection. Lets me know that I was right on the mark. Again.
Whatver, JeffO - you cowardly, dope smoking, lying azz cuunt.
Funny, the guy looking the hardest, with the most money to spend looking, and the greatest ability to sensationalize what he finds, and as much skin in the game as anyone... says flat out there is none.
You ever notice how the Libtard Bots like JeffO Piddler, TurdRoller, and Burrwhore stay away in droves when the news cycle doesn't go their way?
How many threads would they have posted by now if the headlines would have been... "Trump Indictment coming, first of many family and cabinet members"...??
Wonder why that is?
You would think that ALL Americans would be glad their POTUS wasn't a Russian agent... But they aren't.
You ever notice how the Libtard Bots like JeffO Piddler, TurdRoller, and Burrwhore stay away in droves when the news cycle doesn't go their way?
How many threads would they have posted by now if the headlines would have been... "Trump Indictment coming, first of many family and cabinet members"...??
Wonder why that is?
You would think that ALL Americans would be glad their POTUS wasn't a Russian agent... But they aren't.
Cowards tend to operate that way, it really is that simple.
Can you imagine what it will look like in November of 2020?
The game is methodical, if slow, but the result is looking less and less pleasant for Trumpeteers. Every rat hole is slowly be excavated and plugged. The Donald will eventually be on an island all by himself, surrounded by hungry sharks. The water is definitely rising.
LOL.................watching the left meltdown when Trump is exonerated will be fun to watch. Stupid posts like this are just a precursor of what's to come.
Watching the right melt down right now is pretty fun.
You ever notice how the Libtard Bots like JeffO Piddler, TurdRoller, and Burrwhore stay away in droves when the news cycle doesn't go their way?
How many threads would they have posted by now if the headlines would have been... "Trump Indictment coming, first of many family and cabinet members"...??
Wonder why that is?
You would think that ALL Americans would be glad their POTUS wasn't a Russian agent... But they aren't.
Cowards tend to operate that way, it really is that simple.
Can you imagine what it will look like in November of 2020?
Well, luckily they werent really sure that Mueller would nail Trump or this would be embarraskin.
Hey, what are the chances they mite be wrong about Trump and Zero also?
Whats funny is, they are actually lucky they were wrong all the time. Wrong about Hill and Bill and Zero, who would have taken their guns and screwed up their country. Now they seem to lose but actually Trump will save their country.
I bet they are so stupid they are pissed Muller lost and their country won. Especially dumb is that goofy Burroho goofball. For two sixpacks and he would be a corcksucker for sure.
Still, the way it's being underplayed leaves me to believe the communist left won't be happy. They'll spin it their way somehow, and the MSM will keep it spinning...somehow.
JellO is alive and well on the Fitness - Workout thread in the backpacking forum with at least a couple of posts there in the last 24 hours. I'd bet a box of bullets he's looking in here as well
JellO is alive and well on the Fitness - Workout thread in the backpacking forum with at least a couple of posts there in the last 24 hours. I'd bet a box of bullets he's looking in here as well
Tell him we are missing his genius posts on here. We need to know whats going to happen next.
JellO is alive and well on the Fitness - Workout thread in the backpacking forum with at least a couple of posts there in the last 24 hours. I'd bet a box of bullets he's looking in here as well
Still, the way it's being underplayed leaves me to believe the communist left won't be happy. They'll spin it their way somehow, and the MSM will keep it spinning...somehow.
True! Trump must be waiting on the details too, it's been 28 hours since his last tweet. Hard to tell if that is good sign or bad sign.
This is just a working title, and I'm open to suggestions, but I could create a thread and call it "JeffO was right, and these fücks were wrong:" and just post example after example of me being right, and you wanks being wrong. I mean, it's all right here, gloriously so. Just go on, and on, and on. I mean SPECIFICS. Call you out by name. Over and over. For years.
Or, I could choose a specific retard amongst you and, one at time, show me speaking truth and you being, well, a retard. Over and over and over.
Mmm hmmm. Flynn, Manafort and soon-to-be Kushner. Laffin' here.
It will turn out that Kushner was the point man for the collusion, in part by providing electoral data analytics to the Russians to target their bots and disinformation at. Gonna bet against me? I've been right so far. And you've been wrong. Hint. Oh- and it'll turn out Trump knew. I had thought perhaps he didn't. He did. He's going down. It's gonna be a shïtshow. Hells bells; it already IS! The man is falling apart right before our eyes. He can't put three sentences together without a bizarre mental glitch manifesting. His mind, such as it is, is elsewhere. Guilty guilty guilty.
Maybe the vociferous bashers here will find a way to alternative-fact your way out of me being right and you being wrong. I mean, not REALLY.... just in your little alternative reality. But that seems to suffice for some of you, so, good luck with that!
There was campaign collusion; I was right, y'all were wrong (and were [bleep] about it). But we will wait for official confirmation before we address that little detail. Teabagging can wait. I'm a patient man.
Of far more interest to me, since this one is in the bag, is whether Trump himself directed or was aware of this. I've gone both ways with my thoughts on that. I've come back around to thinking he was aware and likely did provide some guidance to his guilty-as-sin underlings... it fits his behavior patterns and general egomaniacal arrogance towards limits on his behavior. But we'll see. As I've also gone to great lengths to make clear, IF he did not know a thing about this- which is possible- then I really hope this does NOT spin into an obstruction case; unless there's more to that that we do not yet know.
But if anyone still thinks there's no collusion between Russia and the Trump campaign you need to come back to planet Earth.
Other than collusion is not illegal according to Alan Dershowitz, so "collusion" alone ain't cutting it. YOU said Trump was "toast" as in impeached or resigning. THAT is the bet and ten boxes is fine...butthole. And you smart? please.. Bag of hammers doesn't begin to describe your stupidity..
Illegal in that sense doesn't matter in this case, as you well know. I read that from Dershowitz too.
Look at you, trying to change the deal. Hmmm. Heck, I'll take that offer! That's a cleaner bet anyway. Butthole.
Ok, so it's you putting up 10 boxes of bullets against my one that Trump is still president by the 2018 midterm elections? And disclaimers or caeveats yiyd like to add to that?
Is it safe to say you'll still support Trump even if he colluded? I think it is. But that reminds me, since you are here: would you accept it if it was shown that the captain of your aircraft carrier had colluded with Russian intelligence to climb up the command ladder?
By the way, I didn't say I was smart. I said I was exceptionally smart. Try to keep up.
You guys are the ULTIMATE homers and you should be embarrassed. Y'all would be apoplectic if this whole situation was flipped around, R to D, and for good reason: if a POTUS is beholden to Russia that's a huge deal. And you don't have to be a tin-hatter to see that this is very possible. We need to know the truth. If the truth turns out to be that Trump knew nothing about any of what members of his campaign staff appear to have been up to, fair enough. I'm fine with that. I doubt it's the case, but I'm fine with it. And THAT is a non-partisan take, right there. I didn't vote for Hillary Clinton; she's horrible, and if she'd won, we'd be pillorying her. She didn't. He did. So now we talk about him. Our intelligence services are unanimous that Russia tried to influence the election to benefit Trump. Are you aware of this? Further, there's vast clouds of dark oily smoke around not one, not two, not three, not four... of his campaign "folks". Subpoenas are imminent. This isn't make-believe, and as much as you guys would like to shout "fake news!!" at it until it goes away, it's not going to.
I'm gonna repeat myself for emphasis. Any patriotic American who isn't absolutely blinded by partisanship should care deeply about finding out the truth. We have a compromised, cheating SOB for a president, or, we have a deep state acting in a treasonous fashion. One of those things is true, both are very bad. We need to know the truth. . If you don't agree with that, you aren't a patriotic American. You're simply a partisan bubblehead who can't be bothered to un-ass your head and look around.
And yes, all the crap you wankers pitch my way means you deserve every bit of the rubbing-in that'll come your way if/when my prediction is shown to be true. If not, then I'll deserve the crap. That's the deal.
Now get to work un-assing your heads. It's embarrassing to be associated with.
Trump also BADLY misread the feelings in Congress and in non-fruitcake America in general towards Comey. Comey was perhaps the one person with some credibility on both sides of the aisle due to how things had played out. Both sides are pissed, yes, but both sides had been "wronged" (sic) by him so at least there was a sense that he wasn't going to bend over for either.
I know many here don't like Ryan, but he's a powerful person and, by the way, next in line if Pence goes down with Trump. Anyway... this is telling. Because no, Mr. Trump, your FBI Director was NOT a nut job.
Howdy folks. Thought it best to let this one rest until after Comey's testimony.
I'm sure y'all have eviscerated Comey on other threads. Some of it is deserved. I've read the news on both sides post-testimony and have seen where the general battle-lines are drawn now.
My takeaways, since you ask, are thus:
*Comey, Mueller, et al are the ones playing 3D chess here. I think it's in the realm of possibility that Comey's firing was an elaborate setup- by Comey himself. Certainly, the way he prepped for the possibility, and then played it when it occurred, was brilliant; it has resulted in a) a special prosecutor who b) is not just anybody, but the un-impeachable (as opposed to Trump, haha) Mueller... who has carte blanch (and political cover) to investigate all this stuff in ways Comey never had... and it has also resulted in Comey being free to talk.
*Theres now a pure and simple credibility battle between the two men, Trump and Comey. Both have now called the other a flat-out liar. Since we know Trump IS a serial liar, advantage Comey... but more to the point, the "tapes" now loom as political land mines for Trump. All it takes is any of his administration, who would know about them, to be asked under oath if they exist. If so, they'll be subpoenaed as public records. And I'd bet the farm that they'll prove that Comey is telling the truth to the letter, and Trump is lying his orange ass off. So, Comey has now placed Trump in a position of great political (credibility) peril on that front; well... actually, Trump did it to himself because the [bleep] guy cannot just STFU. But Comey took that mistake and played it perfectly.
*Sessions is a dead man walking and will be the next domino to fall. Comey essentially assasinated his career. And what the heck is up with these guys not disclosing these meetings?! Jeez! If they were so innocent, just disclose them and move on. "It's not the crime, it's the coverup". Truer words...
* Mueller will be pursuing obstruction charges. They've got more "there" that Comey didn't disclose. Mark my words.
* Pence remains clean. Everyone on both sides is being studiously careful about that. Gosh golly I cannot imagine why.
* Trump's tax returns will turn out to be a Very Big Deal and will show numerous undisclosed Russian entanglements.
* That said, I still think it's at least 50/50 that Trump himself is NOT guilty of collusion with Russia. I think he's entangled in ways that would be suspicious (see: tax returns) and I think he's been incredibly naive about "Russia" at a bare minimum, but he might be innocent of actual, active collusion. But members of his campaign/family/ and/or administration are guilty as hell. Didn't take much reading between the lines to get that... reference Comey emotionally saying "but if Americans were HELPING them, that's a huge deal!" (Not an exact quote).
* the stage is now set; Comey and Mueller have rather brilliantly hemmed Trump in and he's in an almost literal minefield created mostly by his own big mouth. He's under enormous pressure. He responds poorly to pressure; eruptions will follow... anyway, they'll now be putting the squeeze on Kushner, Micheal "I'm not Matt" Flynn, and Manforte... someone will cave. Trump telling Flynn to "stay strong!" was brutally stupid. There's something "there".
* McCain is fading fast and won't be around much longer.
* Russia won the American 2016 presidential election.
I'll reiterate my willingness to bet a box of bullets that collusion by Trump and/or campaign associates will be demonstrated prior to the '18 midterms; or, that Trump does not serve his full term. Any takers, or are you guys just gonna call me names and puss out? I'm guessing the latter, because I think in your heart of hearts it's dawning on y'all that I'm right, you're wrong, and that is gonna suck bad enough without the added indignity of mailing me a box of bullets. But the offer stands.
[quote=Springcove]If is right dumbass!!! How many times have you been right so far???
Uh.... all of them, as it pertains to this stuff....? Look back at the beginning of the thread. Who was wrong? Who was right? Hint. Plus, while you can't admit it, you guys know at this point that I'm gonna be right about the whole shebang-- there was collusion-- and that's why your heads are startin' to asplode. Sorry 'bout dat. I can't help being right; it's just my basic nature.
It's dismaying to watch the Right change their tune on all this [bleep] though. By the time it's proven there was collusion- and it will be- many on the Right will have morphed full-retard into "believing" (because they'll be told to by talk radio and Breitbart, and they are sheeple) that it doesn't matter.
Nothing could be further from the truth.
An epic battle looms. There's treason at the highest levels of .gov., this is 100% certain at this point. But is it Deep State treason or POTUS treason? Enquiring minds want to know. But what we do with whatever info we finally get will be the really interesting thing. Are you gonna go all sheeple? Are you the patriots you claim to be? If collusion is shown we gonna find out.
Who be the "sheeple" you reffer too? project much?....... hahhahaha
Hahaha. Tff. Fake news was right. Mueller nailed Trump. Hahaha.
Dope and rose colored glasses.
Been sucking on some of those hallucinogenic toads and smoking little grey cow pile mushrooms? Well, some folks go for whatever makes them happy.
Pls explain that to MadCow and Pisloosy and Schumer and Schff. They arent getting the upside of all this.
I suppose if a guy does enough dope they could be happy in prison pulling trains. Tell that to your bud Comey. It will lighten his mood, knowing as he does, hes about to get screwed.
Are you doped up enough to tell us how open borders and muzzy immigration are good for us?,
Cut the crap. We all know who bent over for Putin. Your refusal to accept what you saw of his offer is enough to convince a judge of lack of mental facility.
The more you go down your rabbit hole the more evident it becomes that you are not only strange but mentally deranged.
You arent hurting us or Trump following your foolish plan of action. It has become evident you were a mentally weak individual whos indoctrination overpenetrated. In your present condition you have become a liability to the deep state you worship.
You guys are the ULTIMATE homers and you should be embarrassed. Y'all would be apoplectic if this whole situation was flipped around, R to D, and for good reason: if a POTUS is beholden to Russia that's a huge deal. And you don't have to be a tin-hatter to see that this is very possible. We need to know the truth. If the truth turns out to be that Trump knew nothing about any of what members of his campaign staff appear to have been up to, fair enough. I'm fine with that. I doubt it's the case, but I'm fine with it. And THAT is a non-partisan take, right there. I didn't vote for Hillary Clinton; she's horrible, and if she'd won, we'd be pillorying her. She didn't. He did. So now we talk about him. Our intelligence services are unanimous that Russia tried to influence the election to benefit Trump. Are you aware of this? Further, there's vast clouds of dark oily smoke around not one, not two, not three, not four... of his campaign "folks". Subpoenas are imminent. This isn't make-believe, and as much as you guys would like to shout "fake news!!" at it until it goes away, it's not going to.
I'm gonna repeat myself for emphasis. Any patriotic American who isn't absolutely blinded by partisanship should care deeply about finding out the truth. We have a compromised, cheating SOB for a president, or, we have a deep state acting in a treasonous fashion. One of those things is true, both are very bad. We need to know the truth. . If you don't agree with that, you aren't a patriotic American. You're simply a partisan bubblehead who can't be bothered to un-ass your head and look around.
And yes, all the crap you wankers pitch my way means you deserve every bit of the rubbing-in that'll come your way if/when my prediction is shown to be true. If not, then I'll deserve the crap. That's the deal.
Now get to work un-assing your heads. It's embarrassing to be associated with.
Is it or isn't it poor form to post a "come and get it" to JeffeO on the Workout thread? Just trying to get in touch with the 'fire you know.
Yeah -
The other posters on that thread get mad. It's a community safe space for Jefe. Bit sickening especially since Jefe's posts have nothing to do with working out on average and usually include ramblings of how many times he swept the floor which worked his upper body....
Is it or isn't it poor form to post a "come and get it" to JeffeO on the Workout thread? Just trying to get in touch with the 'fire you know.
Yeah -
The other posters on that thread get mad. It's a community safe space for Jefe. Bit sickening especially since Jefe's posts have nothing to do with working out on average and usually include ramblings of how many times he swept the floor which worked his upper body....
There shouldn't be any safe space for jefe............
Dude, was crying how Fire Members had changed and turned on him...Contrary, he took up with Left Wing radicals who couldn’t handle Hillary losing...And, he continued to believe everything coming out of the mouths of Dem politicians and “fake it till you make it” news outlets as his source for the facts.
Jeffo, will either own his inaccurate beliefs and opinions, and carry on with us.....Or, he and his ilk will continue their refusal to acknowledge and admit Mueller did a thorough and exhaustive investigation, coming up with a big nothing burger.....Jeff, you want fries or humble pie with your burger? 😎
The Special Counsel's investigation determined that there were two main Russian efforts to influence the 2016 election. The first involved attempts by a Russian organization, the Internet Research Agency (IRA), to conduct disinformation and social media operations in the United States designed to sow social discord, eventually with the aim of interfering with the election. As noted above, the Special Counsel did not find that any U.S. person or Trump campaign official or associate conspired or knowingly coordinated with the IRA in its efforts.
JeffO, is that you he's talking about? (And a few others here...)
Jeffo's "mathematical analysis" will live in infamy, as some babbling,embarrassing, unbelievably awkward attempt at who the hell knows what...... Smoke a J, pound away on the keyboard.
Idle mind, Idle body, Poster child for drug abuse, But I imagine the stupidity 'Trumped' the effects of the drugs.
I can pull up posts from over 10 years ago when I was kicking the shiet out of JeffO and being 'beaten' by many of the Campfire members for not being nice to the guy.
Some people are SO slow to learn. I've seen some people, that sent me PM's telling me I shouldn't be so hard on JeffO, now giving him grief.
There are a bunch of stupid mother fuc*kers on the 'Fire. Ain't pointed at any of the few above this post.
I don’t care if Jeffo concedes that he was completely wrong and begs forgiveness, he’s nothing more than a pathetic, emotional liberal that sees our country as democrat versus republican as if one is any different than the other. Time has shown that most republicans that feign conservative values are scumbags willing to secretly sell out their constituents for personal prestige and a seat on a committee. They’re almost all without exception lying douchebags without a shred of morality and totally untrustworthy.
Guys, Jell0 is trolling you. No one can be as stupid as he pretends to be. He knows the jig is up and headed for investigation along with Hillary, Comey, Clapper, Brennin, Cheryl Mills, Janet Lynch, Stzrok, Page, McCabe, etc.
Of course, being a low life lying pos dimocommie he is too gutless to admit he was, is, and will be wrong, but believe you me, the chicken schiett knows it.
I don’t care if Jeffo concedes that he was completely wrong and begs forgiveness, he’s nothing more than a pathetic, emotional liberal that sees our country as democrat versus republican as if one is any different than the other. Time has shown that most republicans that feign conservative values are scumbags willing to secretly sell out their constituents for personal prestige and a seat on a committee. They’re almost all without exception lying douchebags without a shred of morality and totally untrustworthy.
Yup....Politicians all have agendas to enrich themselves and their handlers...We The People don’t factor, aside from our votes. 😎
Guys, Jell0 is trolling you. No one can be as stupid as he pretends to be. He knows the jig is up and headed for investigation along with Hillary, Comey, Clapper, Brennin, Cheryl Mills, Janet Lynch, Stzrok, Page, McCabe, etc.
Of course, being a low life lying pos dimocommie he is too gutless to admit he was, is, and will be wrong, but believe you me, the chicken schiett knows it.
You need to rearrange your bracket, Comey is going to be a Hero
Almost a 1/4 million hits Hat, that has to be some kind of record!
Will it make 3000 replies?
Depends on JeffO. Gonna be tough for him to crow about collusion now. He could switch to the obstruction thing, but hey, wasn't "resist!" and "obstruct!" a Dem mantra coming out of their 2016 loss? They will cling to that simply because they are at a loss for anythihng else to counter Trump at this point.
I'm sure Jeff_O is feverishly collecting content and thoughts from MSNBC, CNN and the Democratic Underground and will cut/paste in an attempt to school us all on what to expect with his next "lock".
Originally Posted by Jeff_O
But while the retards are all here I do need to ask you this. Given that I predicted campaign collusion and you dumb fücks denied it, and now Giuliani has conceded it, WTF are you even basing your ball-busting on here? The .1%? That's weak sauce, in case you don't really understand how percentages work.
In this tread alone JeffO could be hung 100 times with his own words.
That POS has been hung with his own words here and on every other subject he pollutes with his garbage way more than 100 times. He's a liar, a troll and an effete pussy that needs theshit kicked out of him...
jeffO and the rest of the trolls here never had even one word of proof, yet they blew up the place with their lies and personal attacks on all of us here.
They aren't done. They will continue those narratives, insults, and lies.
Don't expect any kind of consession from JellO, he's already moved on to the next investigation and will be along shortly to tell us how Trump is going down.
Don't expect any kind of consession from JellO, he's already moved on to the next investigation and will be along shortly to tell us how Trump is going down.
THAt is becuse that is what spineless homos without character or integrity do,,,
In this tread alone JeffO could be hung 100 times with his own words.
That POS has been hung with his own words here and on every other subject he pollutes with his garbage way more than 100 times. He's a liar, a troll and an effete pussy that needs theshit kicked out of him...
What type of bullets does he owe you from the bet that was posted on here for entire planet to see on the www .
He is not only a POS. But also a fugging weasel.... And the whole world can see it on the web.
The coward JeffO posted today on the backpacking forum....... not a word about any of this... he hiked up a hill in Nevada and thought the world should know... Fuuukin loser..
I saw that....You directly called him out... Isn’t he a little too old to be acting like a pussy Social Justice Warrior?...Even CNN and Dem leadership has walked back the rhetoric. Guess some men can’t stand up to piss....Oh well. Trump 2020! 😎
Fub, I imagine he’s trying to figure out how to wipe his ass now that he’s gotten it handed to him. 😎
Hey Beav, I lit him up on the backpack forum, no response yet..... from him or his pals.......
Who are his pals?
Not sure yet, waiting for them to expose themselves...... Although come to think of it you have taken me to task before for calling out JeffO... remember his antelope hunting thread?
In this tread alone JeffO could be hung 100 times with his own words.
That POS has been hung with his own words here and on every other subject he pollutes with his garbage way more than 100 times. He's a liar, a troll and an effete pussy that needs theshit kicked out of him...
What type of bullets does he owe you from the bet that was posted on here for entire planet to see on the www .
He is not only a POS. But also a fugging weasel.... And the whole world can see it on the web.
Hahahahaha!!!!
Pretty much. Here's to hoping he falls off another ladder...
Fub, I imagine he’s trying to figure out how to wipe his ass now that he’s gotten it handed to him. 😎
Hey Beav, I lit him up on the backpack forum, no response yet..... from him or his pals.......
Who are his pals?
Not sure yet, waiting for them to expose themselves...... Although come to think of it you have taken me to task before for calling out JeffO... remember his antelope hunting thread?
Yeah, I remember. You were "lighting him up" for going fishing during a hunting trip or some such.
And now that I think about it you were absolutely right. No one should ever do stuff like that. Outrageous.
Fub, I imagine he’s trying to figure out how to wipe his ass now that he’s gotten it handed to him. 😎
Hey Beav, I lit him up on the backpack forum, no response yet..... from him or his pals.......
Who are his pals?
Not sure yet, waiting for them to expose themselves...... Although come to think of it you have taken me to task before for calling out JeffO... remember his antelope hunting thread?
Yeah, I remember. You were "lighting him up" for going fishing during a hunting trip or some such.
And now that I think about it you were absolutely right. No one should ever do stuff like that. Outrageous.
What was that, three years ago?
I was criticizing JellO for being cavalier about a highly desirable extremely hard to draw trophy antelope tag and not even making the effort to learn to judge a trophy, he shot a decent buck and left the head to rot in the back yard.....
Many people would have loved to have that tag and many apply for 10-20 years for that tag...
Flave was correct you do like to smoke JellO's pole.....
Congratulations, I suspected you would come along and out yourself .........
Smoke, Regardless of anything, surely you're not defending Jeffo. Please say it aint so.
ct, thanks for asking the question without resorting to the usual BS and name-calling, what a concept. No, I'm not defending him. I didn't really follow this thread and wouldn't have commented here if others didn't follow him around and post their BS all over the forums.
From what I've seen, he deserves everything he's getting here. He went out of his way to be antagonistic so he should man up and say "I was wrong." But really, who gives a rats ass? He's not gonna, so why raise your blood pressure worrying about it?
My comments to various posters who follow JeffO around are not a defense of him, his politics, or his methods--he brings it on himself.
Having said that, seems to me that it wasn't too long ago that these forums were mostly about hunting and shooting with a sideshow of politics and the inevitable name-calling and other BS.
Now it's turned into a forum that's mostly about politics with a little hunting and shooting as a sideshow. I just wish people could quit with all the nonsense, call-out threads, and similar juvenile BS.
Or at least keep it on the "Hunters Campfire" where it belongs.
I was criticizing JellO for being cavalier about a highly desirable extremely hard to draw trophy antelope tag and not even making the effort to learn to judge a trophy, he shot a decent buck and left the head to rot in the back yard.....
Many people would have loved to have that tag and many apply for 10-20 years for that tag...
Flave was correct you do like to smoke JellO's pole.....
Congratulations, I suspected you would come along and out yourself .........
LOL, is that all you've got? But you do raise a good point. People who draw tags should use them the same as you or I would, and they should definitely think about the privilege in the same terms you would.
Back from a road trip and I've got the world up my ass as far as work for my shop so I'll try to be brief and to the point here.
First and foremost, there is no outcome here that doesn't result in me eating a big steaming pile of my own shït, so let's just acknowledge that up front. I said I'd own it if I was wrong and I will. In short, anything I said, any insult I tossed out, regarding Trump being guilty of a criminal conspiracy now applies to ME. I will go more specifically into that once we know for sure where things stand, but yes, "you" flat out wiped the floor with me in that regard. You won, I lost. Bad.
The reason I'm hedging slightly is that contrary to what Ack said on the exercise forum- more on that below- we have not seen the Mueller report. We've seen the Barr summary. The line Barr quotes makes it pretty clear he found no criminal conspiracy, hence me owning that, but since we supposedly get to see a redacted full report in a couple short weeks, that's as far as I'm willing to concede things until then. There are several baffling things we KNOW, not from anonymous-sourced WaPo stories or whatever, but from indictments and court documents, that need explained. For instance, we have Trump's campaign manager sending a known Kremlin-linked oligarch internal polling data. I'd like to hear the full story about that, because that reeks to high heaven right on its face. There's a couple more things of that nature, as well. As y'all took great pains to point out, collusion is not a crime! As*I* took great pains to point out, collusion would be pretty fücked-up from a POTUS or his campaign. Anyway, before I eat THAT pile of my own [bleep], I'd like explanations for some known facts, and I'm guessing the full Mueller report will shine light there.
(It's important to realize that high-level prosecutors speak very precisely. The quote Barr pulled said in essence that there was no conspiracy with the Russian STATE. Wiki, for instance, is not the Russian state; yet it was an instrument being used by the Russian state to attack us. Does the paragraph or pages after what Barr pulled, go into that? Trump knew Wiki was aligned with Russia. I'd like to know more there, and my guess- yeah, yeah, yeah, I know- is that there's gonna be some pretty interesting stuff there. So I'm gonna wait the two weeks and see, before I concede that.)
But I'm under no illusions here, generally speaking. At a bare minimum I was purely wrong about a large swath of this, and it's probably gonna be worse than that.
I'm gonna piss "you" off here by pointing out that you were largely wrong too. You were full-throated participants in the purely partisan effort to tear down an honorable American and to a degree, the rule of law itself. ANYONE could see this mess needed looking into. From POTUS on down, everyone involved was lying their fool asses off at every turn. If there's an innocent explanation for that, too, I want to hear it. And I'd hope you would acknowledge, even just internally, that it wasn't just me who went full-retard on this whole thing. You did too. Being "right" doesn't change that any more than it would if I was "right". You guys had this all set up to discredit Mueller, he was the devil incarnate, which makes it pretty ironic that suddenly you are his best buddy... I said I'd accept his findings either way, but my point is, you did not. So a huge swath of what you were presenting as a vast deep state conspiracy turns out to be bullshït. Will you acknowledge THAT? Will you own your own crap, like I am? I'm interested to see what quality of folk I'm dealing with here in that regard.
Finally, if you want me to actually see and acknowledge the shït you want me to eat, STAY OFF THE EXERCISE THREAD. I will plonk you into the ignore folder in a heartbeat. Ask Deflave about that. He follows me around like a plaintive little kid begging for my attention and I don't see a word of it. That'll be your fate as well if you go to that thread with this crap. Fair warning. I'll take my medicine HERE, like I said I would, but you go there and screw that thread up, I'll never see another word you type.
And finally finally, this is all GOOD NEWS! Hell, I'd much rather eat a plate of my own shït than have a POTUS in league with an adversary. Anyone who's paid attention to my political views over the years knows that I share at least some of the major planks of Trumpism. I was talking crap about NATO and our global military footprint long ago, right here on this forum, before it was a twinkle in many of your eyes, in fact many of you gave me crap for it. I was preaching a form of economic isolationism then, too. In short, I want this country to be great and with Russian conspiracy off the table I can give my support to the parts of Trump's agenda I do support, and I will, and that actually feels kinda good!
Enjoy the win, you deserve it, and I'll be back once the full report drops, and STAY OFF THE EXERCISE THREAD in the meantime if you ever want me read what you type again. Serious about that, starting now.
First and foremost, there is no outcome here that doesn't result in me eating a big steaming pile of my own shït, so let's just acknowledge that up front. I said I'd own it if I was wrong and I will. In short, anything I said, any insult I tossed out, regarding Trump being guilty of a criminal conspiracy now applies to ME. I will go more specifically into that once we know for sure where things stand, but yes, "you" flat out wiped the floor with me in that regard. You won, I lost. Bad.
Well, Bravo for you. I would have bet money you didnt have it in you. Thanks for that. Maybe there is a sliver of hope for you after all. I think you need to accept that had you listened to more than fake news which was baldfaced lying to you, you would have come to your above conclusion a long time ago.
Too bad you dont know whats really going on. You will eventually learn the truth, after it comes out, of course, unless you put away your preconcieved notions and start looking at both sides of the coin and adding things up for yourself- objectively.
The truth will set you free, but you just keep right on believing Rs want to push granny off that cliff if you wish.
I wonder if you will ever learn, not all people live life lying. We werent lying and neither was Trump.
Guess what, Zero, Hillary, Comey, Mueller, Stzrok, Ohrs, McCabe, Page, Clapper, Brennan, Shiff and others knew there was no collusion.
I dont care what you think or believe. You will eventually learn of the truth, because Trump wants you to know.
He isnt doing this for the money. He had it made.
You will learn many of those i listed have a dog in this fight. Now they are fighting for their life and it hinges on Trump being driven from office.
Now, what do you think the reason was for Their collusion?
It was just as Hillary said, "If that _____ bastard wins, we will all hang from nooses.
Finally, if you want me to actually see and acknowledge the shït you want me to eat, STAY OFF THE EXERCISE THREAD. I will plonk you into the ignore folder in a heartbeat.
The retard is strong in you, if ya think you can tell 'fire members where ta post.
Well well well JeffO, you deserve credit for owning your rhetoric, I hope this is the first step to you opening your eyes...... by the tone of your apology I am not counting on it.... Early on you said this is either a corrupt President or a corrupt deep state..... it should be clear to you now.......
As far as your threat about posting on the backpack forum... are you fuuukin kidding me? you think your ignore matters to us? WTF
Ignore me..... but don't tell me where and what I can post ..... you insulted a bunch of good and informed people here and you have no right to dictate anything to anyone..... GFY
Ha ... right you are .... so JellO's mea copa is a hoax , makes sense...... if you disagree with JellO don't be posting in the backpack forum.... hahahahahhahaha
Well well well JeffO, you deserve credit for owning your rhetoric, I hope this is the first step to you opening your eyes...... by the tone of your apology I am not counting on it.... Early on you said this is either a corrupt President or a corrupt deep state..... it should be clear to you now.......
As far as your threat about posting on the backpack forum... are you fuuukin kidding me? you think your ignore matters to us? WTF
Ignore me..... but don't tell me where and what I can post ..... you insulted a bunch of good and informed people here and you have no right to dictate anything to anyone..... GFY
And Jeff, this reminds me, dont tell us a bunch of BS they feed you off the MSM or Commie News Network is the straight schiett.
You are smart enough to figure out why cnn, nbc, cbs and abc come up with the same terminology on virtually every Trump hit piece. They are owned by the cabal and they are told what to say.
You also have the brains to finally quit swallowing their lying schiett hook, line and sinker. They are liars. Benghazi was caused by a video; your ins will save you 2500 a year; open borders are good, for use; we have 12 years to turn global warming around; blah, blah, blah.
Get a clue. They have an genda that uses you uses lies to hook you.
Jell-O is kinda' feminine, so maybe April is his real name. And he's definitely a Fool, so it all fits.
He will never not try to own and justify what he's said here. But at the same time he'll Google his azz off to find excuses to show that he is right even though he and everyone else know that he's wrong.......... He's nothing but a fuggin' loser of immense proportions who got in over his hip waders.
From POTUS on down, everyone involved was lying their fool asses off at every turn. If there's an innocent explanation for that, too, I want to hear it.
Is there an innocent explanation? I think this all started with the lie about Trump not pursing or having business interests in Russia during the campaign, from there the lying snowballed on many levels to protect that claim. This would explain Trump seeing Russia as a friend, defending Russia, and the flattering things he said about Putin, this was done simply to further his business interests if he didn't win. The Russians also played the Trump campaign to further their own self interests and the campaign did not handle it well. Building a tower in Moscow is something Trump has chased unsuccessfully for many years. In my opinion, things would have turned out much differently if Trump had simply said that there were some on going talks about building a Trump Tower in Moscow during the campaign, and then said "so what? That's my right." Once people start lying it's hard to stop, not exactly an innocent explanation but one that doesn't involve a criminal conspiracy against the United States.
Jeff it's good to see you own up to your stupidity, But it doersn't matter your a grade afucktard and will alway be a grade afucktard!
Go Fuuck Yourtself ya fuucking liberal asswhole!
Originally Posted by Jeff_O
You guys are comical in your fear of Obama. He's not gonna go after your guns.[/b] The Dems have learned their lesson on that one. But after 8 years of ineptitude from GWB, and with an old, tired McCain and a freaky Palin as the ONLY alternative... Well... Call me all the names you want, but *I* voted for the better overall ticket, period.
Jell-O is kinda' feminine, so maybe April is his real name. And he's definitely a Fool, so it all fits.
He will never not try to own and justify what he's said here. But at the same time he'll Google his azz off to find excuses to show that he is right even though he and everyone else know that he's wrong.......... He's nothing but a fuggin' loser of immense proportions who got in over his hip waders.
Thats been his history for sure.
I dont know if he will ever be able to grasp mentally that Trump is no R. Hes a nstionalist, as is Putin.
Enjoy the win, you deserve it, and I'll be back once the full report drops, and STAY OFF THE EXERCISE THREAD in the meantime if you ever want me read what you type again. Serious about that, starting now.
Am I the only one that interprets this to read "Post on the exercise thread daily?"
Back from a road trip and I've got the world up my ass as far as work for my shop so I'll try to be brief and to the point here.
First and foremost, there is no outcome here that doesn't result in me eating a big steaming pile of my own shït, so let's just acknowledge that up front. I said I'd own it if I was wrong and I will. In short, anything I said, any insult I tossed out, regarding Trump being guilty of a criminal conspiracy now applies to ME. I will go more specifically into that once we know for sure where things stand, but yes, "you" flat out wiped the floor with me in that regard. You won, I lost. Bad.
The reason I'm hedging slightly is that contrary to what Ack said on the exercise forum- more on that below- we have not seen the Mueller report. We've seen the Barr summary. The line Barr quotes makes it pretty clear he found no criminal conspiracy, hence me owning that, but since we supposedly get to see a redacted full report in a couple short weeks, that's as far as I'm willing to concede things until then. There are several baffling things we KNOW, not from anonymous-sourced WaPo stories or whatever, but from indictments and court documents, that need explained. For instance, we have Trump's campaign manager sending a known Kremlin-linked oligarch internal polling data. I'd like to hear the full story about that, because that reeks to high heaven right on its face. There's a couple more things of that nature, as well. As y'all took great pains to point out, collusion is not a crime! As*I* took great pains to point out, collusion would be pretty fücked-up from a POTUS or his campaign. Anyway, before I eat THAT pile of my own [bleep], I'd like explanations for some known facts, and I'm guessing the full Mueller report will shine light there.
(It's important to realize that high-level prosecutors speak very precisely. The quote Barr pulled said in essence that there was no conspiracy with the Russian STATE. Wiki, for instance, is not the Russian state; yet it was an instrument being used by the Russian state to attack us. Does the paragraph or pages after what Barr pulled, go into that? Trump knew Wiki was aligned with Russia. I'd like to know more there, and my guess- yeah, yeah, yeah, I know- is that there's gonna be some pretty interesting stuff there. So I'm gonna wait the two weeks and see, before I concede that.)
But I'm under no illusions here, generally speaking. At a bare minimum I was purely wrong about a large swath of this, and it's probably gonna be worse than that.
I'm gonna piss "you" off here by pointing out that you were largely wrong too. You were full-throated participants in the purely partisan effort to tear down an honorable American and to a degree, the rule of law itself. ANYONE could see this mess needed looking into. From POTUS on down, everyone involved was lying their fool asses off at every turn. If there's an innocent explanation for that, too, I want to hear it. And I'd hope you would acknowledge, even just internally, that it wasn't just me who went full-retard on this whole thing. You did too. Being "right" doesn't change that any more than it would if I was "right". You guys had this all set up to discredit Mueller, he was the devil incarnate, which makes it pretty ironic that suddenly you are his best buddy... I said I'd accept his findings either way, but my point is, you did not. So a huge swath of what you were presenting as a vast deep state conspiracy turns out to be bullshït. Will you acknowledge THAT? Will you own your own crap, like I am? I'm interested to see what quality of folk I'm dealing with here in that regard.
Finally, if you want me to actually see and acknowledge the shït you want me to eat, STAY OFF THE EXERCISE THREAD. I will plonk you into the ignore folder in a heartbeat. Ask Deflave about that. He follows me around like a plaintive little kid begging for my attention and I don't see a word of it. That'll be your fate as well if you go to that thread with this crap. Fair warning. I'll take my medicine HERE, like I said I would, but you go there and screw that thread up, I'll never see another word you type.
And finally finally, this is all GOOD NEWS! Hell, I'd much rather eat a plate of my own shït than have a POTUS in league with an adversary. Anyone who's paid attention to my political views over the years knows that I share at least some of the major planks of Trumpism. I was talking crap about NATO and our global military footprint long ago, right here on this forum, before it was a twinkle in many of your eyes, in fact many of you gave me crap for it. I was preaching a form of economic isolationism then, too. In short, I want this country to be great and with Russian conspiracy off the table I can give my support to the parts of Trump's agenda I do support, and I will, and that actually feels kinda good!
Enjoy the win, you deserve it, and I'll be back once the full report drops, and STAY OFF THE EXERCISE THREAD in the meantime if you ever want me read what you type again. Serious about that, starting now.
And who would that honorable American be by chance?
You shold know better than to threaten people on this site, you might as well get used to being attacked (and deservedly so) in any thread you post.
Predictably, Trump is backtracking on releasing the full report. Fits the same pattern as when he said (several times) he'd be happy to be interviewed under oath by Mueller.
He's "hold me back!" guy in a bar fight.
The report will eventually see daylight. Not much point debating it until it does. I'll be here for whatever degree of beatdown I have coming, once it is, though judging from the activity on the exercise thread I won't actually have to listen to a bunch of you! Oh well, that's your choice. I was plenty clear.
The report is no small thing, and you are correct to be worried about it. I've conceded I was wrong about the criminal conspiracy part and I've said all along obstruction was not a big concern for me. Remember, my original mantra, before I went full-retard on criminality, was that Trump and/or high campaign officials would b shown to have colluded. That's still VERY much in play here. Just sayin'.
Predictably, Trump is backtracking on releasing the full report. Fits the same pattern as when he said (several times) he'd be happy to be interviewed under oath by Mueller.
He's "hold me back!" guy in a bar fight.
The report will eventually see daylight. Not much point debating it until it does. I'll be here for whatever degree of beatdown I have coming, once it is, though judging from the activity on the exercise thread I won't actually have to listen to a bunch of you! Oh well, that's your choice. I was plenty clear.
The report is no small thing, and you are correct to be worried about it. I've conceded I was wrong about the criminal conspiracy part and I've said all along obstruction was not a big concern for me. Remember, my original mantra, before I went full-retard on criminality, was that Trump and/or high campaign officials would b shown to have colluded. That's still VERY much in play here. Just sayin'.
If they were indicting the low hanging fruit for a couple of lies that had nothing to do with Russia, and a few false loan applications....
I imagine they would not have hesitated to go after Trump or anyone else that committed crimes.
Not only did Trump not collude with Russia to steal the election..., NOBODY did. That is clear.
But, by all means keep thinking that Trump will be removed from office or shamed from office.
You need to give it a figgin' break. The entire investigation was and is a hoax.
Not ONE SINGLE smidgen of proof.
Yet, you continue to impugn our POTUS.
How would you like it if stories day in a day out ran on national news that YOU were a child molester... When you damned knew well you weren't. And nobody could possibly have evidence of such?
You already have me on ignore so I don't have anything to "lose" lol, besides your here eating the crow you dished up, I have a certian amount of respect for that but it ain't much due to the asswhole you were.
I do have to say, you were right.........you aren't very good at politics, you should accept that and sty the hell away from it.
Predictably, Trump is backtracking on releasing the full report. Fits the same pattern as when he said (several times) he'd be happy to be interviewed under oath by Mueller.
He's "hold me back!" guy in a bar fight.
The report will eventually see daylight. Not much point debating it until it does. I'll be here for whatever degree of beatdown I have coming, once it is, though judging from the activity on the exercise thread I won't actually have to listen to a bunch of you! Oh well, that's your choice. I was plenty clear.
The report is no small thing, and you are correct to be worried about it. I've conceded I was wrong about the criminal conspiracy part and I've said all along obstruction was not a big concern for me. Remember, my original mantra, before I went full-retard on criminality, was that Trump and/or high campaign officials would b shown to have colluded. That's still VERY much in play here. Just sayin'.
If they were indicting the low hanging fruit for a couple of lies that had nothing to do with Russia, and a few false loan applications....
I imagine they would not have hesitated to go after Trump or anyone else that committed crimes.
Not only did Trump not collude with Russia to steal the election..., NOBODY did. That is clear.
But, by all means keep thinking that Trump will be removed from office or shamed from office.
You need to give it a figgin' break. The entire investigation was and is a hoax.
Not ONE SINGLE smidgen of proof.
Yet, you continue to impugn our POTUS.
How would you like it if stories day in a day out ran on national news that YOU were a child molester... When you damned knew well you weren't. And nobody could possibly have evidence of such?
You wouldn't.
Just stop already.
One of the top Dimocrap lowyers in the US calls this an illegal bs soft coup with no legal basis for ever having had Mueller assigned.
The suckers like Jell0 are too dumb to realize they are trying to take down the only man standing between the nwo take down of this country.
They are too stupid to realize there are reasons people drown essentially trying to swim here from the socialist utopia named Cuba.
Predictably, Trump is backtracking on releasing the full report. '.
First, President Trump has nothing to do with the release of the Report. That is up to Rod Rosenstien and Bill Barr.
Second, the "full" report cannot be released by a matter of law. Laws written and signed by Democrats. Portions of the report that are classified, show sources and methods AND any and all Grand Jury testimony is forbidden by LAW to be released.
Second, the "full" report cannot be released by a matter of law. Laws written and signed by Democrats. Portions of the report that are classified, show sources and methods AND any and all Grand Jury testimony is forbidden by LAW to be released.
The entire reason for the statements made on DU and other liberal havens, and repeated by Ignore_O here.
The demorrhoids *know* the full report can never be released, so they have moved on to the next phase of the Russian Delusion farce.
Argue that President Trump isn't legitimately in office until the full report clears him.
, Remember, my original mantra, before I went full-retard on criminality, was that Trump and/or high campaign officials would b shown to have colluded. That's still VERY much in play here. Just sayin'.
Who? How?
Are you stoned?
At this point it's clear your just looking for attention, trying to fabricate some relevancy to justify your idiotic bored lifestyle.
Predictably, Trump is backtracking on releasing the full report. Fits the same pattern as when he said (several times) he'd be happy to be interviewed under oath by Mueller.
He's "hold me back!" guy in a bar fight.
The report will eventually see daylight. Not much point debating it until it does. I'll be here for whatever degree of beatdown I have coming, once it is, though judging from the activity on the exercise thread I won't actually have to listen to a bunch of you! Oh well, that's your choice. I was plenty clear.
The report is no small thing, and you are correct to be worried about it. I've conceded I was wrong about the criminal conspiracy part and I've said all along obstruction was not a big concern for me. Remember, my original mantra, before I went full-retard on criminality, was that Trump and/or high campaign officials would b shown to have colluded. That's still VERY much in play here. Just sayin'.
Jeff, you're a waffler even in defeat. You have no defense left. As for demanding people keep off your backpacking thread? Hahahahah! You can't demand anyone do or not do a damn thing. If you already have me on ignore? Well, I guess I wasted a few minutes.
Predictably, Trump is backtracking on releasing the full report. Fits the same pattern as when he said (several times) he'd be happy to be interviewed under oath by Mueller.
He's "hold me back!" guy in a bar fight.
The report will eventually see daylight. Not much point debating it until it does. I'll be here for whatever degree of beatdown I have coming, once it is, though judging from the activity on the exercise thread I won't actually have to listen to a bunch of you! Oh well, that's your choice. I was plenty clear.
The report is no small thing, and you are correct to be worried about it. I've conceded I was wrong about the criminal conspiracy part and I've said all along obstruction was not a big concern for me. Remember, my original mantra, before I went full-retard on criminality, was that Trump and/or high campaign officials would b shown to have colluded. That's still VERY much in play here. Just sayin'.
Predictably, Trump is backtracking on releasing the full report. '.
First, President Trump has nothing to do with the release of the Report. That is up to Rod Rosenstien and Bill Barr.
Second, the "full" report cannot be released by a matter of law. Laws written and signed by Democrats. Portions of the report that are classified, show sources and methods AND any and all Grand Jury testimony is forbidden by LAW to be released.
But that doesn't fit his agenda, truth be damned...
Predictably, Trump is backtracking on releasing the full report. '.
First, President Trump has nothing to do with the release of the Report. That is up to Rod Rosenstien and Bill Barr.
Second, the "full" report cannot be released by a matter of law. Laws written and signed by Democrats. Portions of the report that are classified, show sources and methods AND any and all Grand Jury testimony is forbidden by LAW to be released.
So throughout Barr’s confirmation hearing, he cited the law and said he would release what could be released. The democrats asked the same question 49 times on whether he would release the report.
Democrats proclaim they support the rule of law, except when the rule of law is inconvenient to their agenda.
Predictably, Trump is backtracking on releasing the full report. '.
First, President Trump has nothing to do with the release of the Report. That is up to Rod Rosenstien and Bill Barr.
You actually BELIEVE that? You can't be that naive.
It doesn't matter what I believe, it matter what the facts are.
Fact: Rod Rosenstein (RR) as Deputy AG was in charge of the Mueller Investigation.
RR is still the DAG and is still engaged in the Mueller Investigation.
RR sent a memo to President Trump recommending that James Comey be fired.
As soon as Comey was fired, RR appointed Mueller to investigate Donald J Trump and President Trump for Colluding with Russia AND for Obstructing Justice for firing James Comey.
RR was part of the Coup to remove President Trump from office. He was involved in a scheme to wear a wire and secretly record the President in order to invoke the 25th Amendment and have him removed from office.
RR's wife Lisa Barsoomian works for the Senior Executive Service (SES) in the CIA Office of General Counsel (OGC). As a federal government attorney, she has represented the CIA, FBI, Robert Mueller, Hillary Clinton, President Bill Clinton, President Barack Obama, James Comey, and other federal agencies multiple times.
RR has refused to testify before Congress.
According to Democrats, RR and Mueller are the Great Saviors of America and will take down President Trump, If President Trump were to interfere in the Mueller Investigation or Report in any way shape or form, RR, Mueller would not hesitate for one second to slap the cuffs on him and charge him with obstruction. In case you have not been paying attention, that is RR and Mueller's objective, Obstruction of Justice.
Sorry, President Trump is to smart for them and knows a trap when he sees one. They set the trap, but he didn't bite.
Predictably, Trump is backtracking on releasing the full report. '.
First, President Trump has nothing to do with the release of the Report. That is up to Rod Rosenstien and Bill Barr.
You actually BELIEVE that? You can't be that naive.
I would have thought you not that stupid. Not really. You are stupid enough to listen to the media that has lied about everything having to do with this for about as many years as there has been media.
Trump has NOTHING to say in when, what and how the report is released and in what redacted format. It WILL be redacted because it has to be to protect national security and those who were NOT indicted. That includes Trump.
The lying losers in the national media and their handlers in the senate and house KNOW it can't be released without taking out national security and information regarding the innocent, but they are liars from the pit of Hell for whom truth has no relevance and scream their lies to pump up the foolish lemmings like you and Jeff. A perfect day would be hanging them all.
I read someplace that Mueller is part of the redacting process. He is working with RR and Barr redacting what by law must be redacted.
How are the Democrats going to spin this? Mueller redacting his own report is going to give those that claim Barr and President Trump are covering up the "real" report fits.
I caught part of a Comey interview on the radio the other day. He described himself as a "political enemy of Trump." I am sure that started after the firing.
I caught part of a Comey interview on the radio the other day. He described himself as a "political enemy of Trump." I am sure that started after the firing.
So he appears to know the definition... Now part of the prosecution for his crimes involves proving a timeline.
D's subpoena'ing the full report. Good. Transparency in .gov is a good thing- as several of you said regarding Wiki during the election. And of course we all believe in Constitutionally-mandated congressional oversight of the executive branch.
A little patience guys, you'll (likely) get your pound of flesh here soon enough. Well, the ones who aren't trashing that other thread will. And/or I may yet extract a pound of flesh from you, or at least a couple ounces <grin>. We just don't know yet. Patience.
D's subpoena'ing the full report. Good. Transparency in .gov is a good thing- as several of you said regarding Wiki during the election. And of course we all believe in Constitutionally-mandated congressional oversight of the executive branch.
A little patience guys, you'll (likely) get your pound of flesh here soon enough. Well, the ones who aren't trashing that other thread will. And/or I may yet extract a pound of flesh from you, or at least a couple ounces <grin>. We just don't know yet. Patience.
They're fools. Nothing new there. Mostly setting up their lemmings to take their lies where they may lead. Your elected lieberal demoncraps likely understand that the report will never be released in it's entirety, but maybe not. They don't ever appear "up on the law", just up on how to destroy good law. But that's another topic. What they are doing here is to feed you crap so you will have expectations that will never be met, and never tell you why. They are using you like cheap whores. But that may be another topic, too.
They won't release the full report. Not now, not ever. No one does, and no one has. Ever. And not for anything but good and very understandable reasons to them who understand reason.
Transparency in classified information is not good. Neither is information dug up about anyone who was not indicted and that would apply to most of those investigated.
And you must understand this: Oversight is an implied rather than an enumerated power under the U.S. Constitution. The government's charter does not explicitly grant Congress the authority to conduct inquiries or investigations of the executive, to have access to records or materials held by the executive, or to issue subpoenas for documents or testimony from the executive.
I knew this in 13th grade. That is, my Freshman year in college in 1973. Were you born then?
I caught part of a Comey interview on the radio the other day. He described himself as a "political enemy of Trump." I am sure that started after the firing.
I would be more inclined to believe it started well before that. About the time they began talking about an insurance policy.
I'm sure Comey, and the others, missed out on a lot of Clinton cash by not being able to take down Trump after the election. They should pay dearly for their attempts.
D's subpoena'ing the full report. Good. Transparency in .gov is a good thing- as several of you said regarding Wiki during the election. And of course we all believe in Constitutionally-mandated congressional oversight of the executive branch.
A little patience guys, you'll (likely) get your pound of flesh here soon enough. Well, the ones who aren't trashing that other thread will. And/or I may yet extract a pound of flesh from you, or at least a couple ounces <grin>. We just don't know yet. Patience.
This of course is not true.
Nadler has said he will subpoena Barr and the unredacted report, he has also said he will give Barr a few days to think about it.
What that means is that Nadler knows that by law the AG cannot release the underacted report. BTW, a law that was passed and sponsored by Nadler back during the Clinton SC investigations.
So, Nadler is giving Barr a few days to think about it, but in reality what he is doing is Judge shopping and looking for Federal Judge that will order Barr to break the Law and release the report. Nadler must not have yet found this judge, but don't fret, he will and when he does, all hell will brakw lose, with the Democrats ordering the AG to violate the law they themselves wrote.
I caught part of a Comey interview on the radio the other day. He described himself as a "political enemy of Trump." I am sure that started after the firing.
I would be more inclined to believe it started well before that. About the time they began talking about an insurance policy.
I'm sure Comey, and the others, missed out on a lot of Clinton cash by not being able to take down Trump after the election. They should pay dearly for their attempts.
Yep. Treasonous Bastards need to swing from the highest tree 😡
President Trump is going to announce that he'll release the entire Mulder report right after O'Buckwheat releases his birth certificate and educational records.
D's subpoena'ing the full report. Good. Transparency in .gov is a good thing- as several of you said regarding Wiki during the election. And of course we all believe in Constitutionally-mandated congressional oversight of the executive branch.
A little patience guys, you'll (likely) get your pound of flesh here soon enough. Well, the ones who aren't trashing that other thread will. And/or I may yet extract a pound of flesh from you, or at least a couple ounces <grin>. We just don't know yet. Patience.
D's subpoena'ing the full report. Good. Transparency in .gov is a good thing- as several of you said regarding Wiki during the election. And of course we all believe in Constitutionally-mandated congressional oversight of the executive branch.
A little patience guys, you'll (likely) get your pound of flesh here soon enough. Well, the ones who aren't trashing that other thread will. And/or I may yet extract a pound of flesh from you, or at least a couple ounces <grin>. We just don't know yet. Patience.
You and the rest of the dumbasses want Barr to break the law.
It's illegal to release the entire thing with unredacted innocent parties named, grand jury testimony etc...
But since when has breaking the law bothered any Leftist?
Never.
Good thing there are those that will follow the letter of the law.
D's subpoena'ing the full report. Good. Transparency in .gov is a good thing- as several of you said regarding Wiki during the election. And of course we all believe in Constitutionally-mandated congressional oversight of the executive branch.
A little patience guys, you'll (likely) get your pound of flesh here soon enough. Well, the ones who aren't trashing that other thread will. And/or I may yet extract a pound of flesh from you, or at least a couple ounces <grin>. We just don't know yet. Patience.
You and the rest of the dumbasses want Barr to break the law.
It's illegal to release the entire thing with unredacted innocent parties named, grand jury testimony etc...
But since when has breaking the law bothered any Leftist?
Never.
Good thing there are those that will follow the letter of the law.
Wanting him to break the law is one thing, it's quite another when a Federal Judge orders him to break the law. Yes, the odds of that happening are extremely high.
A little patience guys, you'll (likely) get your pound of flesh here soon enough. ,,,,, Patience.
Patience? It' only been 2 years and you guys came up with nothing on Trump. Time for you to let it go. Hillary lost through the will of the people. Just because you were shocked and disappointed won't overturn 2016. I bet you ran to Florida in 2000 to count hanging chads. How'd that go?
The demoncraps know full well the unredacted report cannot be released. The unceasing bleating emanating from their buttcheeks is designed only to be trumpeted by the leftist media in an attempt to erode support for the administration and will be slurped up by the usual low information embiciles who can be counted on to do so.
Well, you're at least HALF-correct anyway. = SOME DIMocRATS know that the unredacted report CANNOT be LAWFULLY released to the public BUT many DIMocRATS in Congress are so CLUELESS that they think that WISHING will make what they want done OK.
As my Darla says, "Some of the DIMs are so clueless that they are unfit intellectually to mop the floors & clean the restrooms of the Capitol BUT they are not too stupid to be elected to Congress."
Looks like the redacted Mueller report drops Thursday. Depending on redactions, we should hopefully be able to have our big kumbaya moment this weekend where we come together in the warm brotherhood of the Fire and calmly and rationally apportion who was right about what parts of all this. Well, at least those who haven't shat on that thread. They'll be shut out.
The patina on my predictive powers having been admittedly badly tarnished, I'm still gonna go out on a limb and predict that the actual report will not turn out to be the total exoneration Trump has been trumpeting. But I gotta admit, I could just possibly be slightly wrong about that. At any rate, we will hopefully find out soon enough, unless Barr went completely bonkers with the Sharpie, and I look forward to conversing with those of you mature enough to keep it in your pants and not go screw up a non-political thread. The things I was wrong about, I'll own. The things I was right about, I will teabag y'all with mercilessly. It's gonna be AWESOME!
Looks like the redacted Mueller report drops Thursday. Depending on redactions, we should hopefully be able to have our big kumbaya moment this weekend where we come together in the warm brotherhood of the Fire and calmly and rationally apportion who was right about what parts of all this. Well, at least those who haven't shat on that thread. They'll be shut out.
The patina on my predictive powers having been admittedly badly tarnished, I'm still gonna go out on a limb and predict that the actual report will not turn out to be the total exoneration Trump has been trumpeting. But I gotta admit, I could just possibly be slightly wrong about that. At any rate, we will hopefully find out soon enough, unless Barr went completely bonkers with the Sharpie, and I look forward to conversing with those of you mature enough to keep it in your pants and not go screw up a non-political thread. The things I was wrong about, I'll own. The things I was right about, I will teabag y'all with mercilessly. It's gonna be AWESOME!
Boo!
Dumbass.
If there wasn't anything in the abridged version there won't be in this one either.
Well guys I am one of the guys that invaded JellO's safe space... so he put me on ignore......
JellO is easy to predict, as the Mueller report comes out the lib's will key on any language they can and take things out of context and march forward with the collusion nonsense.... and JellO will hang his hat on that and lap up every bit of it.
If they cant pull that off due to content of the report they will scream the good (incriminating) stuff was redacted.......and JellO will get on his knees once again and slurp that up.....
Well guys I am one of the guys that invaded JellO's safe space... so he put me on ignore......
JellO is easy to predict, as the Mueller report comes out the lib's will key on any language they can and take things out of context and march forward with the collusion nonsense.... and JellO will hang his hat on that and lap up every bit of it.
If they cant pull that off due to content of the report they will scream the good (incriminating) stuff was redacted.......and JellO will get on his knees once again and slurp that up.....
Good to see you’re still a narcissistic fugking idiot!!!
You haven’t been right once dipshit. Better get back to that strenuous tree cutting...
And the patina on your predictive powers smells like schitt. Anyone who hadnt fallen off a ladder would quit "going out on a limb" after having had it sawed off proximal to the tree as often as it has happened to you. You just keep getting more screws loose.
Looks like the redacted Mueller report drops Thursday. Depending on redactions, we should hopefully be able to have our big kumbaya moment this weekend where we come together in the warm brotherhood of the Fire and calmly and rationally apportion who was right about what parts of all this. Well, at least those who haven't shat on that thread. They'll be shut out.
The patina on my predictive powers having been admittedly badly tarnished, I'm still gonna go out on a limb and predict that the actual report will not turn out to be the total exoneration Trump has been trumpeting. But I gotta admit, I could just possibly be slightly wrong about that. At any rate, we will hopefully find out soon enough, unless Barr went completely bonkers with the Sharpie, and I look forward to conversing with those of you mature enough to keep it in your pants and not go screw up a non-political thread. The things I was wrong about, I'll own. The things I was right about, I will teabag y'all with mercilessly. It's gonna be AWESOME!
Boo!
Dumbass.
If there wasn't anything in the abridged version there won't be in this one either.
Hes too stupid to realize if Mueller was getting screwed by Barrs report, Mueller would be shouting it from the rooftops and would be a constant on the msm.
Sharp eye, David. How was it you missed Jello's attempt to turn "mercilessly" into a noun?
QWERTY like jeffO throws out a word like that, ya just gotta accept it means somethin ya don't wanna google, less your antivirus is completely up to date.
Hey Jell0, when did you say Mueller would find T guilty and have him jailed?
The walls are closing in..... it's the beginning of the end..... blablabla Poor JeffO , he simply believed in CNN......... he is the victim in all this...... hahahaha
rationally apportion who was right about what parts of all this.
Well, guess that leaves you out.... Go fall off another ladder...
No chit. If we’re “rationally apportioning” correctness then I was completely 100% correct.....I said Jeff0 was a fucqing idiot that didn’t know what thefuck he was talking about.....I was right.
Now that he’s been proven 100% wrong about everyfuckingthing he’s trying to rationally apportion some accuracy to his idiotic blather. If he had a single shred of dignity he’d slink of to DU and stay thefuckaway from the campfire. His fake news and outright glee at the thought our president “colluded” with Russia while ignoring the high crimes committed by his own party is all the proof one needs to know that Jeff0 is an anti-American POS.....the enemy of freedom and the enemy of our Constitution. Fug him and the ladder he road in on.
I hope his PTSD from a fender bender and falling off his ladder causes him to try to suck start a Glock.
He will justify a smear and slander campaign by Mueller and the deep state one percenter msm owners that direct the narrative that would get any other prosecutor disbarred.
All the msm will follow suit because they are owned by the NWO and their only hope is to discredit Barr.
Jell0 will follow the narrative because he is spineless, aka jello.
Once a sucker takes that easy road of being a lying lowlife they will always be a lowlife liar, unless they are treated to a good caning. Thats why other less dimoctatic societies use it. Not many have skin thick enough to let their disengenuous tongue get them another dose.
I know Jag, and that is bullchit...... I went to his safe space and asked for assistance from the guys.... he has me on ignore, maybe they will help and he will listen?
I know Jag, and that is bullchit...... I went to his safe space and asked for assistance from the guys.... he has me on ignore, maybe they will help and he will listen?
I know Jag, and that is bullchit...... I went to his safe space and asked for assistance from the guys.... he has me on ignore, maybe they will help and he will listen?
I know Jag, and that is bullchit...... I went to his safe space and asked for assistance from the guys.... he has me on ignore, maybe they will help and he will listen?
I know Jag, and that is bullchit...... I went to his safe space and asked for assistance from the guys.... he has me on ignore, maybe they will help and he will listen?
I know Jag, and that is bullchit...... I went to his safe space and asked for assistance from the guys.... he has me on ignore, maybe they will help and he will listen?
I know Jag, and that is bullchit...... I went to his safe space and asked for assistance from the guys.... he has me on ignore, maybe they will help and he will listen?
I know Jag, and that is bullchit...... I went to his safe space and asked for assistance from the guys.... he has me on ignore, maybe they will help and he will listen?
I know Jag, and that is bullchit...... I went to his safe space and asked for assistance from the guys.... he has me on ignore, maybe they will help and he will listen?
I know Jag, and that is bullchit...... I went to his safe space and asked for assistance from the guys.... he has me on ignore, maybe they will help and he will listen?
I know Jag, and that is bullchit...... I went to his safe space and asked for assistance from the guys.... he has me on ignore, maybe they will help and he will listen?
I know Jag, and that is bullchit...... I went to his safe space and asked for assistance from the guys.... he has me on ignore, maybe they will help and he will listen?
I know Jag, and that is bullchit...... I went to his safe space and asked for assistance from the guys.... he has me on ignore, maybe they will help and he will listen?
You just know he's a peeker.
Uhoh.......Multiple posts, I don't know what happened......I'll get a hold of Rick and let him know he has a problem.
I know Jag, and that is bullchit...... I went to his safe space and asked for assistance from the guys.... he has me on ignore, maybe they will help and he will listen?
I know Jag, and that is bullchit...... I went to his safe space and asked for assistance from the guys.... he has me on ignore, maybe they will help and he will listen?
You just know he's a peeker.
More like a meat gazer
To be truthful I hope Jeff never leaves the Fire, you can't buy entertainment like this at any price!
Hmmmm I will need to appoint Robert Mueller to investigate this multiple post thing...😀😀😀
Good then that whiskey can age for two more years!
I'm pretty confident.........
You know, if he werent such a freaking tightwad he would throw us a couple of bottles each.
Who has done more to drive his otherwise inane and mundane post and make this an epic thread in the annals (minus one n) of campfar history than you an me?
The only reason he came up with the bottle idea was because he has a guilty conscience. Problem is, it isnt very guilty.
Please Jag, tell me that “annals of campfar” is a spelling error. If not, it must be in one of those secret sub forums. I looked. 😳
There! Fixd
Edit to add, do I have to take this down since the topic was edited? Bwahahah!
You better not watch this, Jell0. You wont like the truth about your pipple. They are going down. Its in the Plan. Trump has the goods: Hillarys server, DNC server, Weiners server, Wassermans server- all saved from the cloud by Mil Intel.
Keep watching your NWO 1%'ers grabbing at straws on CNN and MSNBC. They are sucking for air as they are going down.
Come on, Jell0, sling some tea bags at us. Canon fodder is headed your way. You best show the white flag and live to be wrong another day.
You should be proud of Hillary and Zero destroying peoples lives in their quest to rebuild the Moslem Caliphate.
Now women and children sell themselves for a few morsels of food in what was once a wealthynation with a thriving economy. Thank God Trump saved Syria from the same fate.
I would appreciate an unredacted version of your report and conclusions...
Preliminary findings are some people find great sport in skewering JeffO for his absurdities, and any promise of liquid grand prize motivates them further.😀
Congratulations 1234567mag on a well earned victory....... you are now an honorary Democrat....
That's way below the belt...........And mean.
Now you see what you gone an done. We going down. The Mullet will be investigating collusion. Comey the Clown will sic his Fibby fudds on us. They will interview our dead grandparents and ask them if we're sorry. Silence means consent to them dimocraps.
Now you see where we're at huh? Jell0 will call us guilty as hell.
I, i cant be locked up with a yankee. I, i got issues-an asthma. I cant sleep on my back all night.
Doc Jeffery, it was a rare and extreme pleasure watching your thread surpass all expectations.
I cant think of anyone who deserves the record more due to your frequent and great posts composed in an excellent fashion though many required a real effort and diligence on your part.
You and my bud Doc Rocket have composed some great off the cuff reads over the years.
Thanks for the great thread and great reads. Jageye.
Doc Jeffery, it was a rare and extreme pleasure watching your thread surpass all expectations.
I cant think of anyone who deserves the record more due to your frequent and great posts composed in an excellent fashion though many required a real effort and diligence on your part.
You and my bud Doc Rocket have composed some great off the cuff reads over the years.
Thanks for the great thread and great reads. Jageye.
Sounds like you're trying to schmooze the judge ..
Let's give credit to JellO. Without his cannabis logic, this thread would have died after 36 hours. Now it is Franken thread exposing all things Leftist, troll like, and a monument to post ladder trauma syndrome.
We ain't nowhere near done spearin' Jeff Obama! This thread is going to 3500 easy, Jeff ain't gonna get any smarter and he ain't gonna quit posting his dumbassery anytime soon.
I really thought hitting 3000 posts would maybe be the end as Jell0 is too mello to say hello.
I dont think he is insane nor stupid enough to keep following cnn down the same rabbit hole. I think he knows insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result.
I dont think the guy is a traitor. You know most lieberals got off track trying to genuinely help those less fortunate. The deep state lured them in with lying BS.
Many here have kids that swallowed their lieberal indoctrination that Rs want granny dead, open borders are great, muzzies are wonderful, our diversity is our strength, we are going to be dead in 15 years (as Gore said 30 years ago), etc.
Trump is slowly feeding the narrative of truth. We wont be dead in 12 or 15 or 25 years, and the info is getting out that the deep state dims and rinos want no wall for the drugs and child trafficking and illegal vote.
A lot of dims are getting the message and have the sense to realize the dangling carrot tantilizing them to pull our wagon off the cliff is just that.
If he doesnt recognize that by now he will. I dont think hes a traitor like that Diddler pos. Hes just been sucked innto being a useful tool by the deep state 1%ers who pull the strings of Hill, Bill, DNC and Zero.
It will help when the truth comes out about how much of the 150 billion to iran is being gifted to rinos and dims in endowments.
Remember, he did say swamp draining was fine with him before he got hooked on the Adam Shiff "evidence" of collusion the msm kept feeding suckers.
Im thinking it wont be long until a lot of folks begin to see who the swamp really is. Exposure is coming.
Funny. Jello posting on the backpacking workout thread but doesn’t have the balls to post here. What a douche.
He's still waiting for the mueller report to come out............
He might be reading the report and taking notes before responding.
You are kidding? right
If JellO actually took the time to read anything he wouldn't be in the mess he is in..... the only thing he reads is the CNN headline and off to the races from there.
He likes to pretend he is accountable and has the moral high ground, yet he is caught in lie after lie (documented here over the years) he welches on bets..... He is proven wrong, then hides... coward..... the few times he admits being wrong it is always qualified with a (but more evidence is coming out etc...) then a vulgar gay reference etc.... He hides in the backpack forum then tell's us better not go there! GMAFB He made his bed here, yet refuses to sleep in it......
Nope not kidding, reading and quoting directly from Mueller's report is about the only option he has left to make an argument for "teabaging y'all" in this thread. His other options are to walk away from this thread and disappear from embarrassment, or to come clean about what he was wrong about. The way he carried on about "being right" leads me to believe that he will be back at some point with an argument about "being right" rather than an admission that he was wrong, 448 pages is a long read.
I’m guessing the smart money is on those of us who quietly went about our business and then silently elected Trump sending a clear message to the “Left” that we were done with their elitist, we know what’s best for you politics...
Fly over States and the conservative minded in Blue States I suspect will come together, again in 2020, and end the Social Media Heat Throbs of Social Reforms and Government Control again.
The craziness of the Left isn’t being ignored by us...We’ll ruin their party again, if we vote. 😎
What a strange and nebulous place we find ourselves in.
It would appear that POTUS and his band of lying crooks is, as I said, not guilty of conspiring with Russia. But holy FAWK did they push that boundary. And holy FAWK did they lie and lie and lie about it, often at POTUS's direct command.
I said early on that if Trump et al turned out to be innocent, they would be the guiltiest-seeming innocent people EVER. I stand by that. Lies upon lies upon lies. These are fundamentally, profoundly, dishonest people. That's just charming. And this was NOT a "witch hunt". Any candidate who ever pulls this kind of crap again deserves to be investigated.
Anyway.... one reason I wanted to wait to do this until we at least saw the redacted report was that I wanted to assess just how far astray the MSM had led me. It turns out, not very far at all. Where I went full-retard was in the connecting of the dots; but the dots themselves were almost completely correct. I read a story last night about the number of times that Trump cried "fake news!" that turned out to be 100% correctly reported REAL news. It was a BUNCH, and they were very consequential dots, too. The dude is a LIAR. If you bought into his BS then you got played. Period. So I got played too, I went all-in.... I'm admitting that. But you got played WORSE. My mistake was letting my profound dislike for this piece of human dung color my judgement. Your mistake was ignoring, even wholly discrediting, a whole shïtload of stuff that turned out TRUE and spinning up a vast conspiracy story.
I'll take my mistake over yours. YMMV.
(It's necessary to point out that YOUR alt.media did not report these dots and in fact generally tried to discredit and de-value them. You won't acknowledge that because that's just how you guys roll, but it's the truth. )
Finally, obstruction. I also said early on that this was not my main issue; I was concerned about collusion with an adversary and what that meant on the global stage. That's still true. But it needs said: Trump obstructed justice. Period. If any other citizen other than a POTUS had done what he did they'd be indicted. When he claims exoneration on that front, he's lying. If you buy it, you're simply proving beyond ANY doubt that you are fully indoctrinated. Still, this was not my main issue so I'm not gonna push that point other than to say, whatever political hellfire he receives for it is fully earned.
Speaking of Truth. So what, AFAIK, is true?
-Donald Trump had deep, ongoing business ties with Russia during the campaign which he flat lied about. I think the Deutchbank subpoenas will be illustrative of this beyond what we already know.
-Donald Trump's campaign was in constant contact with Russia; over 100 instances. He/they also flat lied about this.
-Donald Trump knew Russia had hacked the DNC emails and was feeding them to Wiki. He flat lied about this as well, in essence giving them cover so they could continue to weaken his opponent.
-Donald Trump did conspire with Wiki; however this apparently was technically legal, despite knowing that Wiki was in league with Russia. This is very troubling to me.
-Donald Trump repeatedly obstructed the investigation into the Russian attack, and his potential ties to it. He's literally a crook in this regard, protected only by a JD policy (I.E., NOT a constitutional provision) protecting sitting presidents from indictment.
-Donald Trump is a serial and very consequential liar who will go down in history as such. Anyone supporting him is supporting someone who lied to them, and everyone else, over and over. Only a Herculean effort in goalpost-moving even allows said support. His level of engagement with Russia, and subsequent lies about it, would've been utterly unacceptable to most of you... 2 years ago. You've changed. Golf clap, fellas. Good job. Way to show just how principled you actually are. As in, not so much.
I will conclude by saying that if there's a Russia connection that Mueller didn't find; one that would prove a criminal conspiracy, then Putin has Trump by the absolute BALLS right now. I'm gonna throw a hail-Mary and predict that this turns out to be the case. That fits the known fact-cloud, and Trump's actions and responses, better than any other explanation. Dude was SCARED. He lied over and over and over for a reason. He's hiding something. Obviously this is pure speculation on my part, and obviously, "I've been wrong before!".... but still, that's my guess. Time will tell. Before you heads explode, I'm not gonna pimp that theory or try to defend it here as nauseam. I'm done doing that. Still, I am putting it out there this once.
Oh- I've un-subbed from the exercise thread and no longer GAF who trashes it. I won't see it. If messing up a apolitical thread where guys are simply trying to better themselves and hold themselves accountable is your thing, have at it. Those are good guys; they can hold their own.
Donald Trump is a piece of shït, but he's your piece of shït, and you can have him. We'll see how that plays out. Interesting times we live in. For the record, I don't see a Democrat in the field I could vote for in 2020, and I'm not voting for this lying incompetent clown, so, here's hoping for a good Libertarian candidate or the like to rescue us from this cesspool. Out.
I’m guessing the smart money is on those of us who quietly went about our business and then silently elected Trump sending a clear message to the “Left” that we were done with their elitist, we know what’s best for you politics...
Fly over States and the conservative minded in Blue States I suspect will come together, again in 2020, and end the Social Media Heat Throbs of Social Reforms and Government Control again.
The craziness of the Left isn’t being ignored by us...We’ll ruin their party again, if we vote. 😎
The left has no clue the folks are pissed at blue.
They are kind of like their followers and our fire liebs that way: Stupid.
For the record, I don't see a Democrat in the field I could vote for in 2020, and I'm not voting for this lying incompetent clown, so, here's hoping for a good Libertarian candidate or the like to rescue us from this cesspool. Out.
What a strange and nebulous place we find ourselves in.
It would appear that POTUS and his band of lying crooks is, as I said, not guilty of conspiring with Russia. But holy FAWK did they push that boundary. And holy FAWK did they lie and lie and lie about it, often at POTUS's direct command.
I said early on that if Trump et al turned out to be innocent, they would be the guiltiest-seeming innocent people EVER. I stand by that. Lies upon lies upon lies. These are fundamentally, profoundly, dishonest people. That's just charming. And this was NOT a "witch hunt". Any candidate who ever pulls this kind of crap again deserves to be investigated.
Anyway.... one reason I wanted to wait to do this until we at least saw the redacted report was that I wanted to assess just how far astray the MSM had led me. It turns out, not very far at all. Where I went full-retard was in the connecting of the dots; but the dots themselves were almost completely correct. I read a story last night about the number of times that Trump cried "fake news!" that turned out to be 100% correctly reported REAL news. It was a BUNCH, and they were very consequential dots, too. The dude is a LIAR. If you bought into his BS then you got played. Period. So I got played too, I went all-in.... I'm admitting that. But you got played WORSE. My mistake was letting my profound dislike for this piece of human dung color my judgement. Your mistake was ignoring, even wholly discrediting, a whole shïtload of stuff that turned out TRUE and spinning up a vast conspiracy story.
I'll take my mistake over yours. YMMV.
(It's necessary to point out that YOUR alt.media did not report these dots and in fact generally tried to discredit and de-value them. You won't acknowledge that because that's just how you guys roll, but it's the truth. )
Finally, obstruction. I also said early on that this was not my main issue; I was concerned about collusion with an adversary and what that meant on the global stage. That's still true. But it needs said: Trump obstructed justice. Period. If any other citizen other than a POTUS had done what he did they'd be indicted. When he claims exoneration on that front, he's lying. If you buy it, you're simply proving beyond ANY doubt that you are fully indoctrinated. Still, this was not my main issue so I'm not gonna push that point other than to say, whatever political hellfire he receives for it is fully earned.
Speaking of Truth. So what, AFAIK, is true?
-Donald Trump had deep, ongoing business ties with Russia during the campaign which he flat lied about. I think the Deutchbank subpoenas will be illustrative of this beyond what we already know.
-Donald Trump's campaign was in constant contact with Russia; over 100 instances. He/they also flat lied about this.
-Donald Trump knew Russia had hacked the DNC emails and was feeding them to Wiki. He flat lied about this as well, in essence giving them cover so they could continue to weaken his opponent.
-Donald Trump did conspire with Wiki; however this apparently was technically legal, despite knowing that Wiki was in league with Russia. This is very troubling to me.
-Donald Trump repeatedly obstructed the investigation into the Russian attack, and his potential ties to it. He's literally a crook in this regard, protected only by a JD policy (I.E., NOT a constitutional provision) protecting sitting presidents from indictment.
-Donald Trump is a serial and very consequential liar who will go down in history as such. Anyone supporting him is supporting someone who lied to them, and everyone else, over and over. Only a Herculean effort in goalpost-moving even allows said support. His level of engagement with Russia, and subsequent lies about it, would've been utterly unacceptable to most of you... 2 years ago. You've changed. Golf clap, fellas. Good job. Way to show just how principled you actually are. As in, not so much.
I will conclude by saying that if there's a Russia connection that Mueller didn't find; one that would prove a criminal conspiracy, then Putin has Trump by the absolute BALLS right now. I'm gonna throw a hail-Mary and predict that this turns out to be the case. That fits the known fact-cloud, and Trump's actions and responses, better than any other explanation. Dude was SCARED. He lied over and over and over for a reason. He's hiding something. Obviously this is pure speculation on my part, and obviously, "I've been wrong before!".... but still, that's my guess. Time will tell. Before you heads explode, I'm not gonna pimp that theory or try to defend it here as nauseam. I'm done doing that. Still, I am putting it out there this once.
Oh- I've un-subbed from the exercise thread and no longer GAF who trashes it. I won't see it. If messing up a apolitical thread where guys are simply trying to better themselves and hold themselves accountable is your thing, have at it. Those are good guys; they can hold their own.
Donald Trump is a piece of shït, but he's your piece of shït, and you can have him. We'll see how that plays out. Interesting times we live in. For the record, I don't see a Democrat in the field I could vote for in 2020, and I'm not voting for this lying incompetent clown, so, here's hoping for a good Libertarian candidate or the like to rescue us from this cesspool. Out.
Delusional is too kind. You're a flaming left liberal living in a little vacuum. Just because you own a chainsaw or play hunter doesn't make it all go away.
I hope you live long enough to reap the rewards of what you sow...
What a strange and nebulous place we find ourselves in.
It would appear that POTUS and his band of lying crooks is, as I said, not guilty of conspiring with Russia. But holy FAWK did they push that boundary. And holy FAWK did they lie and lie and lie about it, often at POTUS's direct command.
I said early on that if Trump et al turned out to be innocent, they would be the guiltiest-seeming innocent people EVER. I stand by that. Lies upon lies upon lies. These are fundamentally, profoundly, dishonest people. That's just charming. And this was NOT a "witch hunt". Any candidate who ever pulls this kind of crap again deserves to be investigated.
Anyway.... one reason I wanted to wait to do this until we at least saw the redacted report was that I wanted to assess just how far astray the MSM had led me. It turns out, not very far at all. Where I went full-retard was in the connecting of the dots; but the dots themselves were almost completely correct. I read a story last night about the number of times that Trump cried "fake news!" that turned out to be 100% correctly reported REAL news. It was a BUNCH, and they were very consequential dots, too. The dude is a LIAR. If you bought into his BS then you got played. Period. So I got played too, I went all-in.... I'm admitting that. But you got played WORSE. My mistake was letting my profound dislike for this piece of human dung color my judgement. Your mistake was ignoring, even wholly discrediting, a whole shïtload of stuff that turned out TRUE and spinning up a vast conspiracy story.
I'll take my mistake over yours. YMMV.
(It's necessary to point out that YOUR alt.media did not report these dots and in fact generally tried to discredit and de-value them. You won't acknowledge that because that's just how you guys roll, but it's the truth. )
Finally, obstruction. I also said early on that this was not my main issue; I was concerned about collusion with an adversary and what that meant on the global stage. That's still true. But it needs said: Trump obstructed justice. Period. If any other citizen other than a POTUS had done what he did they'd be indicted. When he claims exoneration on that front, he's lying. If you buy it, you're simply proving beyond ANY doubt that you are fully indoctrinated. Still, this was not my main issue so I'm not gonna push that point other than to say, whatever political hellfire he receives for it is fully earned.
Speaking of Truth. So what, AFAIK, is true?
-Donald Trump had deep, ongoing business ties with Russia during the campaign which he flat lied about. I think the Deutchbank subpoenas will be illustrative of this beyond what we already know.
-Donald Trump's campaign was in constant contact with Russia; over 100 instances. He/they also flat lied about this.
-Donald Trump knew Russia had hacked the DNC emails and was feeding them to Wiki. He flat lied about this as well, in essence giving them cover so they could continue to weaken his opponent.
-Donald Trump did conspire with Wiki; however this apparently was technically legal, despite knowing that Wiki was in league with Russia. This is very troubling to me.
-Donald Trump repeatedly obstructed the investigation into the Russian attack, and his potential ties to it. He's literally a crook in this regard, protected only by a JD policy (I.E., NOT a constitutional provision) protecting sitting presidents from indictment.
-Donald Trump is a serial and very consequential liar who will go down in history as such. Anyone supporting him is supporting someone who lied to them, and everyone else, over and over. Only a Herculean effort in goalpost-moving even allows said support. His level of engagement with Russia, and subsequent lies about it, would've been utterly unacceptable to most of you... 2 years ago. You've changed. Golf clap, fellas. Good job. Way to show just how principled you actually are. As in, not so much.
I will conclude by saying that if there's a Russia connection that Mueller didn't find; one that would prove a criminal conspiracy, then Putin has Trump by the absolute BALLS right now. I'm gonna throw a hail-Mary and predict that this turns out to be the case. That fits the known fact-cloud, and Trump's actions and responses, better than any other explanation. Dude was SCARED. He lied over and over and over for a reason. He's hiding something. Obviously this is pure speculation on my part, and obviously, "I've been wrong before!".... but still, that's my guess. Time will tell. Before you heads explode, I'm not gonna pimp that theory or try to defend it here as nauseam. I'm done doing that. Still, I am putting it out there this once.
Oh- I've un-subbed from the exercise thread and no longer GAF who trashes it. I won't see it. If messing up a apolitical thread where guys are simply trying to better themselves and hold themselves accountable is your thing, have at it. Those are good guys; they can hold their own.
Donald Trump is a piece of shït, but he's your piece of shït, and you can have him. We'll see how that plays out. Interesting times we live in. For the record, I don't see a Democrat in the field I could vote for in 2020, and I'm not voting for this lying incompetent clown, so, here's hoping for a good Libertarian candidate or the like to rescue us from this cesspool. Out.
Anyway.... one reason I wanted to wait to do this until we at least saw the redacted report was that I wanted to assess just how far astray the MSM had led me. It turns out, not very far at all. Where I went full-retard was in the connecting of the dots; but the dots themselves were almost completely correct. I read a story last night about the number of times that Trump cried "fake news!" that turned out to be 100% correctly reported REAL news.
What a strange and nebulous place we find ourselves in.
It would appear that POTUS and his band of lying crooks is, as I said, not guilty of conspiring with Russia. But holy FAWK did they push that boundary. And holy FAWK did they lie and lie and lie about it, often at POTUS's direct command.
I said early on that if Trump et al turned out to be innocent, they would be the guiltiest-seeming innocent people EVER. I stand by that. Lies upon lies upon lies. These are fundamentally, profoundly, dishonest people. That's just charming. And this was NOT a "witch hunt". Any candidate who ever pulls this kind of crap again deserves to be investigated.
Anyway.... one reason I wanted to wait to do this until we at least saw the redacted report was that I wanted to assess just how far astray the MSM had led me. It turns out, not very far at all. Where I went full-retard was in the connecting of the dots; but the dots themselves were almost completely correct. I read a story last night about the number of times that Trump cried "fake news!" that turned out to be 100% correctly reported REAL news. It was a BUNCH, and they were very consequential dots, too. The dude is a LIAR. If you bought into his BS then you got played. Period. So I got played too, I went all-in.... I'm admitting that. But you got played WORSE. My mistake was letting my profound dislike for this piece of human dung color my judgement. Your mistake was ignoring, even wholly discrediting, a whole shïtload of stuff that turned out TRUE and spinning up a vast conspiracy story.
I'll take my mistake over yours. YMMV.
(It's necessary to point out that YOUR alt.media did not report these dots and in fact generally tried to discredit and de-value them. You won't acknowledge that because that's just how you guys roll, but it's the truth. )
Finally, obstruction. I also said early on that this was not my main issue; I was concerned about collusion with an adversary and what that meant on the global stage. That's still true. But it needs said: Trump obstructed justice. Period. If any other citizen other than a POTUS had done what he did they'd be indicted. When he claims exoneration on that front, he's lying. If you buy it, you're simply proving beyond ANY doubt that you are fully indoctrinated. Still, this was not my main issue so I'm not gonna push that point other than to say, whatever political hellfire he receives for it is fully earned.
Speaking of Truth. So what, AFAIK, is true?
-Donald Trump had deep, ongoing business ties with Russia during the campaign which he flat lied about. I think the Deutchbank subpoenas will be illustrative of this beyond what we already know.
-Donald Trump's campaign was in constant contact with Russia; over 100 instances. He/they also flat lied about this.
-Donald Trump knew Russia had hacked the DNC emails and was feeding them to Wiki. He flat lied about this as well, in essence giving them cover so they could continue to weaken his opponent.
-Donald Trump did conspire with Wiki; however this apparently was technically legal, despite knowing that Wiki was in league with Russia. This is very troubling to me.
-Donald Trump repeatedly obstructed the investigation into the Russian attack, and his potential ties to it. He's literally a crook in this regard, protected only by a JD policy (I.E., NOT a constitutional provision) protecting sitting presidents from indictment.
-Donald Trump is a serial and very consequential liar who will go down in history as such. Anyone supporting him is supporting someone who lied to them, and everyone else, over and over. Only a Herculean effort in goalpost-moving even allows said support. His level of engagement with Russia, and subsequent lies about it, would've been utterly unacceptable to most of you... 2 years ago. You've changed. Golf clap, fellas. Good job. Way to show just how principled you actually are. As in, not so much.
I will conclude by saying that if there's a Russia connection that Mueller didn't find; one that would prove a criminal conspiracy, then Putin has Trump by the absolute BALLS right now. I'm gonna throw a hail-Mary and predict that this turns out to be the case. That fits the known fact-cloud, and Trump's actions and responses, better than any other explanation. Dude was SCARED. He lied over and over and over for a reason. He's hiding something. Obviously this is pure speculation on my part, and obviously, "I've been wrong before!".... but still, that's my guess. Time will tell. Before you heads explode, I'm not gonna pimp that theory or try to defend it here as nauseam. I'm done doing that. Still, I am putting it out there this once.
Oh- I've un-subbed from the exercise thread and no longer GAF who trashes it. I won't see it. If messing up a apolitical thread where guys are simply trying to better themselves and hold themselves accountable is your thing, have at it. Those are good guys; they can hold their own.
Donald Trump is a piece of shït, but he's your piece of shït, and you can have him. We'll see how that plays out. Interesting times we live in. For the record, I don't see a Democrat in the field I could vote for in 2020, and I'm not voting for this lying incompetent clown, so, here's hoping for a good Libertarian candidate or the like to rescue us from this cesspool. Out.
You've gone farther off the Rez than ol' Eyeball, and that's saying something.
is the fact that their too stupid to realize how stupid they actually are.
Most idiots, when digging their own hole, usually at some point realize it's time to stop digging.
This idiot, hits bottom, and then double's down every single time.
Hes too stupid to see Trump was telling the truth every time be cried Fake News abd he pardons the fake news sources because they cry about it and report it. Sheesh. Unreal.
Look, Ma, they told the truth when they said he called them fake news.
Well, Jell0, they lied when theh said they werent fake news.
They lied when they said there was evidence Trump colluded. They lied when they said they had evidence of obstruction.
They lied when they said he was a Hitler, and when they said he was in Putins pocket and when they said T jr met with Russian agents and when they said Cohen went to Russia.
Anyway.... one reason I wanted to wait to do this until we at least saw the redacted report was that I wanted to assess just how far astray the MSM had led me. It turns out, not very far at all.
You can't be objectively serious. The MSM and their followers (you among them) make Obama birthers look objective and not blind haters by comparison. You people could have Marilyn Monroe naked in your bed, but if she wore a MAGA cap you'd claim she was hideous because she had a mole!
Originally Posted by Jeff_O
Where I went full-retard was ...
Oh the places I could go with this quote!
Originally Posted by Jeff_O
I'll take my mistake over yours. YMMV.
Fine, then quit being so bitchy about Trump. Your whining almost makes me miss Maser, almost. We get the blind hate. Your side got beaten by someone you don't like, and in spite of your most deceivious best efforts he continues to thwart you and the Left and you have come to the realization that the economy will re-elect him. Now you know how I felt about Obama. Get it? Can't stand the bastard. Turn around is fair play bendeco.
Originally Posted by Jeff_O
Finally, obstruction. I also said early on that this was not my main issue
Well, then STFU already about obstruction. It's a bullcrap accusation that the Left is clinging to like a life preserver after the Titanic crash.
Originally Posted by Jeff_O
Speaking of Truth. So what, AFAIK, is true?
Truth? Oh, the truth is laid bare for everyone to see. Truth is nobody on the Left EVER saw Hillary losing. When the race become obviously tight, the Left went into panic mode. That was just right before the infamous "We will swing from nooses" declaration by Her Royal Highness. As soon as Trump won, AND the GOP took BOTH the House and Senate, the Democrats went into crisis mode. The SCOTUS was at stake, Merrick Garland was history, and it was a sure thing Trump would appoint 2, maybe more justices. With the fact the Dems were completely out of power, there was only one way to combat this - get Trump out.
Obama, Clinton, the Dem hierarchy including Podesta worked out this strategy that "The Russians Stole the Election" as the obvious answer to the question Leftists asked; "WTF happened?". They bought it and the MSM was more than willing to run with it. The Dems immediately pushed this story in the MSM. and the GOP Deep State Old Guard was stupid enough to think this was the "old Days" and that a "Special Prosecutor" would clear things up quickly and make it all look clean and above board. They didn't realize the Dem game was damage Trump and get him out before 2018 and before he could appoint anymore conservatives to the Supreme Court. Beyond the Supreme Court, this soon took on a life of itself, very self perpetuating as the only glimmer of hope the Left had as Trump romped from one victory to the next. The few things the Dems have to cheer about either come from their own obstruction blocking Trump in court by using Leftist Federal judges to place injunctions, or the recapture of the House, which is an historic norm in off year elections such as 2018.
The Left is dumfounded that support for Trump has not collapsed. These tactics would have torpedoed just about any other GOP leader. McCain, Romney, even W. would have folded. Reagan is the only one I can think of that would have weathered this because he could go directly to the people.
Face it, this was a dirty tricks witch hunt with nothing to it. Whatever "irregularities" you want cling to are sensationalized nothings. The next big fear you Lefties have is called retribution. Let's look into McCabe, Comey. Let's put Strok and Page on the stand to testify. let's investigate the Clinton Foundation. Let's investigate Brennen and Clapper. Hey buddy, it's only fair. Tit for tat, baby. Wanna guess where more dirt can be found?
That's your truth. That, and the truth is you on Left hate Trump. He could cure cancer and heal Tiny Tim and you'd still hate him. How can we have a conversation with that as YOUR foundation?
Originally Posted by Jeff_O
Donald Trump is a piece of shït, but he's your piece of shït, and you can have him. We'll see how that plays out. Interesting times we live in. For the record, I don't see a Democrat in the field I could vote for in 2020, and I'm not voting for this lying incompetent clown, so, here's hoping for a good Libertarian candidate or the like to rescue us from this cesspool. Out.
Further proof of what I just wrote. Blind hate. Economy is booming (POS) Lowest unemployment in 50+ years (POS) ISIS crushed (POS) Withdrawing troops from Afghanistan and Iraq (POS) Energy exporters (POS) Working to get our borders under control (POS)
Where do you do expect to get a respectful conversation when this is your beginning and end? Go back and read your posts from the first 10 pages of this thread and compare them to the deranged angry rants of the last 40. Your frustration that stems from your losing position is eating you alive.
Thanks, but Jell0 is too stupid to consider the possibility that the left could be investigated but, in fact thats just what is going on and was redacted by Barr and Muller from the report.
Thats why the left is going crazy over trying to get the full report. Jello missed the part about 11 other investigations going on outside the Trump/Ruskie and obstruction perview- but the crooked govt dimocraps didnt miss it.
Trump could have had the entire Mueller report classified. He didnt because he wanted the Mueller points on possible obstruction cast out to pull in the DNC and Jell0 suckers so they can be trapped.
Just like the fact the Kavanaugh DNC dirty tricks insanity was not about Roe vs Wade, it was the smokescreen used to try to prevent Kav from being seated to protect Dims, DOJ and State Dept and Da Hilkary and Zero and Facebook and Twitter from being tried in mil tribunals for subversion for collusion in a country that is in a declared war and also in a declarec state of National Emergency. So, i guess cnn wasnt real truthful to its folks about why the Dims went overboard to trip Kav.
Neither was the msm and cnn truthful about the need for a border wall. The deep state says the wall isnt needed because they want this country taken down buy illegals, their expenses, crimes, diseases and drugs. They want the cartels and ms-13 bringing drugs and children for sex trafficking.
Adam Schiff will be found to have provided cover for the Standard Hotel trafficking and hes grasping at straws to try and bring Trump down to save his life.
Jell0, heres a chance for you to get a clue as to what Trump, Muelker and Barr are fixing to do.
Trump didnt lie. Zero surveilled him. Trump didnt collude with Russia. He tried to give you a freaking clue, dumbass.
Now he trying to give you another clue, dumbass. He breaking it to you gently. We have TREASON. They were Treasonous. Dims committed Treason. Treason, treason, tis the season to get focused about TREASON.
Why? So you will be ready to see charges for -guess. Yeah. Treason.
Your sucker buddies are after the chum in the water.
Oh- I've un-subbed from the exercise thread and no longer GAF who trashes it. I won't see it. If messing up a apolitical thread where guys are simply trying to better themselves and hold themselves accountable is your thing, have at it. Those are good guys; they can hold their own.
So what do you expect? You fart in this room and then run to another and expect your challengers not to follow you? You defended yourself right here for the past how many months until the writing was on the wall, then wouldn't show up take your medicine. Now you're a martyr because your critics had to hunt you down elsewhere? Please!
Also, Jell0, re your saying you had already said your main point was not obstruction? Well, it appears now its about all you got so i guess that is your main point now.
Your main point was collusion. You said Trump colluded. You said Muelker would get him on it. Did i hear you say Trump told us the truth and you and Schiff and Cnn lièd?
Did we ever hear you tell the truth. Did you tell us the truth and admit you lied?
Dayom, you had me worried. I lost sleep because of your lies. You seemed so truthful and so certain. No way you could be wrong again, right. Hell, no one is dumb enough to be wrong all the time, well i guess unless they watch Fake News?
I thought you had inside info from a freaking Martian or freaking grasshopper.
I should have known, you only had FAKE NEWS.
Youre a no good and a goofy liar, Jell0. You have only fed us lies and BS, like your bud, Zero. I didnt kno Hillry had a unsecured server, even tho i emailed her onit with my fake name. Yep, most open admin ever. You kin save $2500 a yr on my BS plan. Benghazi was cause of a video nobody saw. I cant just invite alien kids in, we gotta constitution. I gave uran 150 bilkion so dey dont build no nukes. Oh yeah, well, i fergot about those icbms they got sitting there pointing at us now.
Yeah. I can see, you justbdont cotton to liars, huh, you pos liar.
Oh- I've un-subbed from the exercise thread and no longer GAF who trashes it. I won't see it. If messing up a apolitical thread where guys are simply trying to better themselves and hold themselves accountable is your thing, have at it. Those are good guys; they can hold their own.
So what do you expect? You fart in this room and then run to another and expect your challengers not to follow you? You defended yourself right here for the past how many months until the writing was on the wall, then wouldn't show up take your medicine. Now you're a martyr because your critics had to hunt you down elsewhere? Please!
Nobody on the backpack thread seems put out...... well except... JellO
Talking to JellO and djs is a waste of time..... you can put the truth and facts in front of them and they will reject it every time... it's astounding to watch and hard to comprehend...
The clip Flave played probably accounts for most of the explanation... Stalin truly understood how to brain wash and employ "useful Idiots" and the left in America is all in on that....
You can see as this drama plays out the left cool-aid drinkers wont budge... these fools need to be defeated and never allowed power again... if not our country will be in for hard violent times.
Never has socialism been imposed on an armed previously free population.....
JellO, djs, paddler etc.... have chosen a side, they side with the Marxist, they are the enemy, they deserve scorn and ridicule and worse.......
Every tyrant has had henchmen to do their bidding and dirty work...... we have those lackey's here on the campfire spewing their vile ignorance.....
It will be funny to watch JellO spin when the investigators are prosecuted and jailed..... but it will be no surprise as we have seen JellO spin over and over..... no integrity, no conscience....
As easy as these fools are to predict it should be easy to defeat them, I believe Trump understands them perfectly and has set a trap....
JellO your workouts consist of cutting and splitting fire wood for half a day... You poor thing. Perhaps if you didn’t take so many bong hits you could do a full day you wuss!!! You’re a disingenuous lying piece of crap and everyone knows it. Trying being a man for once and admit you were wrong, pay off your bet and apologize for being a complete ass.
Travis is dogging the hell out of him over there.......TFF!
And irfubar is right, nobody seems to care. I got a feeling they all now realize what a lying POS Jeff Obama is.
Yep, I dogged JellO pretty hard on the backpack thread a week or so back and the regulars were actually pretty nice to me and didn't complain....... I think they understood and simply tolerate JellO.
Whats happening Jell0. Are you now waiting for Nadler to pull the smoking gun proving collusion or obstruction out of a report Muelker couldnt find enough in to issue a charge against Trump?
So Barr said there was spying and that he was looking into how this illegal crap got started that destroyed lives of others including an American hero named Flynn to destroy him for knowing where Zeros commie skeletons are buried.
Of course you know (being sharp as a tack) without CNN having told you so, that Mueller wasnt on the case of a crime since collusion wouldnt have been one, and you know also no President could be tried for firing an underling.
So you would have to know Muelker never intended to file charges on him since it wasnt a criminal investigation.
Of course anyone with half a brain would subsequently know Mueller knew the Steele dossier was BS and new all the time there was no there there.
So, even you would have to be able to figure out the whole ordeal was to keep stupid pricks hanging on and thinking Trump was a genius having covered up collusion God couldnt even find.
And of course the reason Muelker kept the dog and pony show going on was to mislead the lame brains into thinking Trump was a crook and get them voting D in the mid terms.
So, in fact, your buds objective was to keep the truth from you and others to help swing a D win in the house by illegitimate means. Would that, in a sane world, constitute obstruction of justice?
So Barr calls spying spying and then reveals there are Grand Juries investigating possible illegalities possibly involving dimocraps. Now this gets Nadler really worried and he has to try and queer those cases by having them exposed in an effort to protect some of your other deep state swamp commie buds.
Would Nadlers attempt to derail Barrs Grand Jury investigations constitute obstruction. I thought you really had a problem with scum obstructing justice. Well, i guess it appears the only obstruction you get upset about is if patriots are obstructing lieberal scum. What say you about that? Is that too deep for you to contemplate and then show us how you can really bloviate?
Maybe Mueller was just stringing you and other suckers along while trying to drive Trumps numbers down and praying for a chance for impeachment to save his crooked deep state swamp ass from his crimes.
I dont think youre going to get much fun out of watching and seeing how Trump is fixing to get MAGA done, because some of your buds are fixing to be on the run. The bad thing about that is it will prove you really dont give a crap about Making America Great Again, which proves you are a low life lieberal liar when you said you would be happy to see the chips fall where they may. We will remember your lying words saying you just wanted the crooks to pay. Well, its beginning to look like youll see your buds pay.
Night night, sleep tight, dont let the truth screw with you tonight.
Keep your focus on CNN, Disneyland is your friend.
The thing is, Jell0 is so stupid from watching CNN we dont know what he doesnt know. Hell, he may not know anyting about Barr saying Trump was spied on. He may only be aware of Wrays statement.
He may not know Barr cant legally release GJ info or that there are investigatiins of lieberals going on.
Constitutional lowyer Greg Jarrett thinks Nadler doesnt know the law and doesn't know Barr cant release GJ info or info on innocent folks.
I can't believe Nadler is that stupid. I think Nadler is pulling a scam on the populace like Mueller did. Jell0 realizes this and is a lying POS or he is stupid magnified by believing CNNs lies. Has cnn explained its illegal for Tea Barr to release every thing or arr they lying and saying Barr is obstructing Nadlers search for the truth?
Jell0, did your hero bro Mueller hire Steele to set up an American citizen hero to be illegally set up and spied on by your and muellers good bud Comey and Zero?
We arent understanding this action by your hero patriots.
Oh no, bro, tell me this chitt just aint so. Mueller involved in obstruction of justice. FBI top lawyer spills digested beans on your hero, Mueller being a fughking crook.
What are your feelers feeling? Can you afford to buy more freaking feelers?
Oh no, bro, tell me this chitt just aint so. Mueller involved in obstruction of justice. FBI top lawyer spills digested beans on your hero, Mueller being a fughking crook.
What are your feelers feeling? Can you afford to buy more freaking feelers?
Oh no, bro, tell me this chitt just aint so. Mueller involved in obstruction of justice. FBI top lawyer spills digested beans on your hero, Mueller being a fughking crook.
What are your feelers feeling? Can you afford to buy more freaking feelers?
Oh no, bro, tell me this chitt just aint so. Mueller involved in obstruction of justice. FBI top lawyer spills digested beans on your hero, Mueller being a fughking crook.
What are your feelers feeling? Can you afford to buy more freaking feelers?
Now this concerns you, Jell0. You said you would own what the Mueller investigation came up with. He didnt find crap and he doesnt want to testify against Trump and you cant accept that you were wrong and hide like a rat from the truth. That makes you a liar and a gutless, spineless mannequin in the mens dept.
We have tried to give you every chance to man up rather than dream of mushrooms and buttercups.
I noted that as soon as I offered a reward for the 3000 post on my humble thread, your computer suddenly developed hiccups and stuttering, posting at an alarming rate. Now while we all understand that bantering the JeffObama is great sport, your activity was especially suspicious! Therefore, I sought out a "Special Investigator" to sort this out. Since Robert Mueller is now unemployed, he was more than happy to take the job. His findings are:
- no sign of Russian meddling - no sign of Russian Troll farm activity - plenty of nonsense posted by 'fire trolls unrelated to Russia
- there is evidence of thread abuse and manipulation
Therefore, as sole arbiter in what we willl call the Brown Liquid Affair, I DISQUALIFY YOU!!
Prize go to 2nd place, Jag the anti-troll. Probably not a good idea to give him brown liquor and access to a key board with the weekend coming, but that's outta my hands now. In addition to disqualification, this court orders you to insult JeffO, Paddler, Northman, Gayghost, and Goosey daily until the Summer Solstice as your sentence.
I expect the "winner" will post a photo of the prize as proof I DO pay off bets and promises, - unlike JeffObama.
All rite. PTL. I am the WINNER and yellow belly knees like jelly Jell0 is the loser.
Too askeered to surface in sight, and too ashamed to give his much admired insight.
What will we do without the spineless loser who promised to eat crow if Mueller didnt find crap to bring Trump low or justify his being a lowlife dimocrap.
All rite. PTL. I am the WINNER and yellow belly knees like jelly Jell0 is the loser.
Too askeered to surface in sight, and too ashamed to give his much admired insight.
What will we do without the spineless loser who promised to eat crow if Mueller didnt find crap to bring Trump low or justify his being a lowlife dimocrap.
Your honor astounds us yellow Jell0.
Doc, you forgot to congratulate Mag on his disqualification. Was that the sporting thing to do?
One other thing. Once you receive your winnings, please share your thoughts with JeffO after you've tasted about 4 fingers worth of the prize.
Congratulations Jag on your well earned prize......... I too noticed the suspicious posting activity of 123456 mag, shameful he stooped to Demorat tactics.....
Glad this got sorted out and justice has been served......
As far as JellO well not much left to say that hasn't already been said...... he has disgraced himself, but in typical demorat fashion he doesn't know or care...
And kudos to Hatari for honoring his word, unlike JellO.......
Thanks, Fubar and amen, men will be men and lieberal boys will be boy toys.
Come on Yellow Jell0, anyone can be wrong, but being wrong over and over again takes ones with a special propensity for falling for lieberal stupidity. Be at least half a man. Sit up and admit chagrin at having taken it on the chin again.
All rite. PTL. What will we do without the spineless loser .
Jell-O is still here. Just ask GunTruck50. same same
Whoa, jorge, thanks for saying so. Well, well, well, what do you know. Has yellow Jell0 gone into deep cover?
Jell0, ill tell you something you should know, dont play gotcha with the big brain boys. Get a clue. Your D buds suckered you in, we didnt. You fell in the trap they set because you believed their crap. Then you tried to feed us their lying BS.
WTF, I put you over the top and this is the thanks I get..........
Originally Posted by hatari
- there is evidence of thread abuse and manipulation
At least you didn't bring up self abuse and manipulation.
Originally Posted by hatari
Prize go to 2nd place, Jag the anti-troll.
Must be hell to be a Texan and second place to a Damned Yankee!
An FYI Hat: Sometimes things happen on the fire that are explainable and multiple posts just happen.
Oh how you wound me so, bro, but never fear, i have the healing elixer at hand now and i am confident that Dr Jeffs prescription will lift me with spirits from the misery of confliction.
2A wise man’s heart inclines to the right, but the heart of a fool to the left. 3Even as the fool walks along the road, his sense is lacking, and he shows everyone that he is a fool.…
He’s working out real hard on the backpack forum. What a coward.
It isnt that he minds being wrong, hes just too gutless and spineless to own up and admit it, increasing the charge of being stupid and clueless for swallowing the lies from CNN to being a yellow bellied chickenschiett.
Stupid clueless chickenschiett Yell0 Jell0, all you had to do was admit you were wrong about Trump Russia collusion because you listened to CNN and you would have been forgiven and welcomed back as a fallible man, but you didnt and that makes you not a man but instead You turned yourself into a chickenschiett.
Darn, Jell0, you could be here happy and celebrating with us. We have the highest employment and lowest unemployment in history and youre unhappy your bud Mueller didnt take him down. Unreal.
What did your magic Negro who said high unemployment is here to stay do for us? He gave us open borders and tyrannical govt who worked and COLLUDED to thwart the Constitution and the folks. What did the magic negro ask about Trump. Did he ask if he had a magic stick. Im sure Zero wanted to know.
It's amazing how well JeffO has gotten into your collective heads. Man, he did a number on you guys, to the point you are now talking to yourselves in an empty room. Over 3100 posts of nothing but you guys blubbering insults as fast as you can. Hilarious.
I wish I had his talent for lighting you guys up like Georgia fat wood. Way too funny.
It's amazing how well JeffO has gotten into your collective heads. Man, he did a number on you guys, to the point you are now talking to yourselves in an empty room. Over 3100 posts of nothing but you guys blubbering insults as fast as you can. Hilarious.
I wish I had his talent for lighting you guys up like Georgia fat wood. Way too funny.
Jeff Obama is twice as smart as you are and he's one dumb fuqk, that would make you a two dumb fuqk.......
Get worse for you I'm sure. Wait until November 2020 and you'll get a whole new definition on how your world gets worse as ours improves.
Take a closer look and see how we've shared a few laughs and some pleasant camaraderie this past week. Though it might be at JeffOs expense, he earned it. He's not on ignore because he tried to back his stance, until it became absurd.
I've enjoyed on and offline correspondence with a number of Fire members I have yet to meet over this last bit of fun,and now hope I get opportunity one day soon to met in person, as I have others. All it took for me to make a few new friends over the past two weeks was a sense of humor and a bit of creativity. Something that I'm sure never crossed your anti-social personality disorder ridden brain. Make a new friend? I'm thinking that would be awkward and uncomfortable for you.
What did your magic Negro who said high unemployment is here to stay do for us?
That statement, and also the following quote,
"you didn't build that",
still make me shake my head at O's idiocy, nauseating in fact.
And yet bong boy resurrected this thread for two years while calling all the others retards.
JFC.
Jeffy bump.
Yep, for sure, Kenneth.
"You didn build thet, why, we builf tha roads so you could git toit. You owe us", as if "they didnt get paid for building that road. Anyway, his stupid statement made le Roy proud to be a POS American.
Not hardly! But I appreciate your attempt at humor (which you pretty much suck at when you are trying). I always get a nice welcome whenever I log in.
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Originally Posted by LeroyBeans
Keep up your spirits, things will only get worse.
Get worse for you I'm sure. Wait until November 2020 and you'll get a whole new definition on how your world gets worse as ours improves.
Take a closer look and see how we've shared a few laughs and some pleasant camaraderie this past week. Though it might be at JeffOs expense, he earned it. He's not on ignore because he tried to back his stance, until it became absurd.
I've enjoyed on and offline correspondence with a number of Fire members I have yet to meet over this last bit of fun,and now hope I get opportunity one day soon to met in person, as I have others. All it took for me to make a few new friends over the past two weeks was a sense of humor and a bit of creativity. Something that I'm sure never crossed your anti-social personality disorder ridden brain. Make a new friend? I'm thinking that would be awkward and uncomfortable for you.
Hell no, I'm having a great time laughing at you. It's been awesome.
La Roy is too stupid to connect these dots without help.
His lieberal buds hollerin at Trump, "Dont mess with little Kim. He'll nuc us away."
Now la Roys itch was running for the potus spot a few months before and she was talking about shooting Putins jets over Syria down.
Then when Trump was going to meet with Putin, his buds are hollering for Trump to slap him around. Yep, slap the guy with real nucs around right, like the Zero did?
Yep, la Roy and Jell0 sure go for the mensa crew. Tff, laRoy.
LeRoy is a troll, another kid with a keyboard. Agent Provocateur that is here to stir the pot. It'd be interesting to look into the account to see if it is shared like Paddler's.
Jell0, are you really so stupid? Your bud Mueller knew before he started his collusion job that there had been no T/R collusion. He and cnn suckered you and other lieberals in. Youre cant learn that lieberals lie because Satan has suckered you. You cant see it because HE didnt lie - you have scales over your eyes.
Who really hacked the election, besides Bidens Ukraine buds for Hillary?
Jell0, diddler, la Roye, your commie buds in the deep state (Comey, Brennan and Clapper) said they supported the i Surveillence of Trump because they were worried about Russian interference affecting the election, why are they not claiming to be heros now for protecting the election rather than now pointing fingers of blame at each other?
Jell0, diddler, la Roye, your commie buds in the deep state (Comey, Brennan and Clapper) said they supported the i Surveillence of Trump because they were worried about Russian interference affecting the election, why are they not claiming to be heros now for protecting the election rather than now pointing fingers of blame at each other?
That is a very good point Jag, unfortunately they wont have the integrity to answer why.....
Jell0, diddler, la Roye, your commie buds in the deep state (Comey, Brennan and Clapper) said they supported the i Surveillence of Trump because they were worried about Russian interference affecting the election, why are they not claiming to be heros now for protecting the election rather than now pointing fingers of blame at each other?
That is a very good point Jag, unfortunately they wont have the integrity to answer why.....
True, because they are brainless mouths with no integrity. Can you imagine being stupid enough to believe Zero or the deep states owned MSM?
If Comey is a friend of the deep state, I'd hate to have him as an enemy
I think the last 2 years have been a manifestation of the anger the deep state state, and by extension Comey, have because Trump was elected. Comey already shot his quiver and thereby his “enemieness” is waning and any threat he posed has been neutralized but the return volley is imminent. 😉
Jell0, diddler, la Roye, your commie buds in the deep state (Comey, Brennan and Clapper) said they supported the i Surveillence of Trump because they were worried about Russian interference affecting the election, why are they not claiming to be heros now for protecting the election rather than now pointing fingers of blame at each other?
They’re blaming each other variously for leaking or for misrepresenting the importance of the dossier in the FISA probe. They’re all now starting to backtrack from their hard, fast positions of the investigation. They’re backtracking from this whole notion that Rosenstein wanted to wire up, try to get Trump discriminating himself, 25th Amendment for inserting the unverified dossier in the presidential intelligence briefing. But here’s the question. Instead of all of them starting to point fingers at each other, instead of all of them trying to blame each other, why aren’t they still claiming credit for it?
Why aren’t they holding to their original positions that Trump was a traitor and that Trump was colluding or that Trump was hoping to collude or the Russians were hoping to collude? Why are they backing off of their original positions? Remember their original claim. They didn’t do anything wrong. They were only saving the republic. What they did was not only legal, but critical to the survival of the country. Trump was maybe partnering up with the Russians.
Why don’t they stick with that?
Instead, they’re the ones backing off!
They’re the ones changing their stories. They’re the ones starting to point fingers at each other. If no crime took place — meaning if these guys didn’t do anything wrong, if there was no coup, if everything Comey did was aboveboard, if everything Clapper and Brennan did was aboveboard — why not continue taking credit for it? In fact, why isn’t Comey trying to take credit for the whole thing and telling us Brennan and Clapper had nothing to do with it?
Why aren’t any of them fighting the others for total credit? If their original purpose was to save America from the dastardly Russians and to protect American elections, why have they given that up? Why are they now starting to point fingers? Why are they now starting to claim, “No, it was his idea to use dossier.” “No, no, no, no, no. No! The dossier wasn’t mine. No, no, no, no.” All of them are backing off of everything they spent two years assuring is us was true.
Well, the answer to this is obvious. These people were lying from the get-go. Because if they were the patriots they claim to be, and if they were the saviors — if they were the people of impeccable character and moral strength to save America –they wouldn’t be giving this up.
They’d be hanging in. They’d be still insisting that what they did was crucial to save America. But, see, it was never that. What they did was never anything other than trying to ruin Donald Trump, overturn the election results, and get him thrown out of office. The fact that they’re now scurrying around and unable to maintain their original positions is really all you need to know about the falsity and the fallacious aspects of their original contentions.
A little patience guys, you'll (likely) get your pound of flesh here soon enough. ,,,,, Patience.
Patience? It' only been 2 years and you guys came up with nothing on Trump. Time for you to let it go. Hillary lost through the will of the people. Just because you were shocked and disappointed won't overturn 2016. I bet you ran to Florida in 2000 to count hanging chads. How'd that go?
How long has Trump been in jail at this time, Jell0. Yep, like you said, you man up when you're wrong.
Jag, These things take time!
When you have no facts you must make the story up from scratch, then rewrite it when you hit creative snags. They are like authors who get told by publishers that their idea is good but the story is horrible and sends them back for a redo.
Mueller just got this story thrown in the round file.
Yes. The OIG referred Comey to the DOJ for criminal prosecution, Barr refused stating Comey lacked intent. sound familiar.
Nadler and the HJC have announced formal impeachment proceedings against President Trump, firing Comey is still being cited as Obstruction if Justice by Nadler and company.
Comey’s daughter is one of the lead prosecutors in the Epstein case.
Everybody involved in the coup to remove Trump is still walking free, writing books, tweeting and doing the media/talk show circuit.
I’m guessing ole bob is smarter than you think. If you ran a sham investigation and had to somehow account for it what would be your strategy. Bobs pulling off a pretty good one. What and I can’t remember are pretty often used by politicians in a bind. Could be he is nuts but it’s hard to say. Ed k
I’m guessing ole bob is smarter than you think. If you ran a sham investigation and had to somehow account for it what would be your strategy. Bobs pulling off a pretty good one. What and I can’t remember are pretty often used by politicians in a bind. Could be he is nuts but it’s hard to say. Ed k
If Ol' Bob has 2 IQ points more than my dog, I would indeed be surprised.
They gotta wait a proper amount of time before announcing the dementia or Alzheimer's diagnosis though.
Otherwise it will expose even more corruption perpetrated by those that used his name.
It's already "out there" that people have known for awhile ol' Bob isn't right in the head, and has serious issues.
Are you suggesting that the Democrats/media will declare Mueller incompetent, say that the entire investigation was incomplete and improperly conducted due to Muller’s Alzheimer’s, then Demand a new and proper investigating and a new SC?
They gotta wait a proper amount of time before announcing the dementia or Alzheimer's diagnosis though.
Otherwise it will expose even more corruption perpetrated by those that used his name.
It's already "out there" that people have known for awhile ol' Bob isn't right in the head, and has serious issues.
Are you suggesting that the Democrats/media will declare Mueller incompetent, say that the entire investigation was incomplete and improperly conducted due to Muller’s Alzheimer’s, then Demand a new and proper investigating and a new SC?
That would be interesting. Wouldn't surprise to hear somebody on the Left in the MSM start floating that around. It won't go anywhere, but that is one way to to keep the issue stirred up for them.
They gotta wait a proper amount of time before announcing the dementia or Alzheimer's diagnosis though.
Otherwise it will expose even more corruption perpetrated by those that used his name.
It's already "out there" that people have known for awhile ol' Bob isn't right in the head, and has serious issues.
Are you suggesting that the Democrats/media will declare Mueller incompetent, say that the entire investigation was incomplete and improperly conducted due to Muller’s Alzheimer’s, then Demand a new and proper investigating and a new SC?
I doubt that. The truth ship has sailed on the Russia thing...
The media will keep using it, and Nadler will spout it.
But when accountability for criminal actions taken against a POTUS start coming around, they will claim Mueller wasn't culpable due to dementia...
We dont know WTH is going on since the clairvoyant Jell0 has passed and we get no freaking CNN Leg quiver intuition updates and LaRoy lies as usual. The boy cant help it.
They dont let the truth interfere with the "facts" as Biden says.
The left is all schietts and pissed because the national debt is up 2 trillion under Trump but they are happy with the prospects of spending $40 trillion or so under their prospective new dimocommie president.
Comey and McCabe are heros to the left as they risked their lives breaking constitutional laws trying to help seat a traitorus commie in place of a duly elected businessman who is MAGA.
Question: When Trump is legally re-elected, does either the Russian Collusion story or impeachment talk stop?
It wont stop dumbphuks like LaRoy. The leftists are all liars and project their same shortcomings onto others and as a result they know Trump is a liar. They have always loved and bent over for communists but have now turned against Putin as he is a nationalist who desires to keep the deep state NWO cabal from getting control of Russia.
Their new heros are the Chinese communists Biden, Clinton's, Pelosi and Feinstein have sold out to.
Start with lying to the FISA court to illegally spy on an American political candidate......then shove your dumb ass questions up your liberal vagina and gofuck yourself. 👍
Constitutional laws against government collusion and conspiracy to prevent a US citizen from becoming president and for trying to affect a silent coup along with paying and using foreign assets in an attempt at overthrowing a duly elected POTUS .
Start with lying to the FISA court to illegally spy on an American political candidate......then shove your dumb ass questions up your liberal vagina and gofuck yourself. 👍
This^^^^• , and yes, Ace, the dumbass meant that as a serious question. CNN viewers have not been informed it is illegal for them to break laws nor that our laws are derived from the constitution.
Yeah, sure. Still waiting for the indictments. Much like JeffO waiting for Trump to be indicted. But maybe you will get luckier. After all, Trump holds all the cards. He can't lose now. Well, Putin holds all the cards, but that's not something we want to talk about in public. Might be dangerous.
Now, let's get this thread whipped back into shape, girls!
Start with lying to the FISA court to illegally spy on an American political candidate......then shove your dumb ass questions up your liberal vagina and gofuck yourself. 👍
You and I are too dumb to be able to comprehend how dumb leftists like LaRoy are.
He thinks our economic recovery is due to Zeros shovel ready projects.
He thinks our diversity is our strength, the opposite iof being United.
He thinks open borders and muzzie immigration are making us great again and that China and Japan are dumb for not following suit.
He thinks Zero having let 30,000 to 36,000 illegal alien mexican drug pushers and thugs and thieves and robbers and rapists out of prison prematurely every year and back on the streets of the US is helping our economic recovery.
LaRoy. You should have turned in to the Trump rally in NM. I guess you haven't been able to figure out he really isn't a real R. He is a nationalist.
Oh, yeah. Never mind. I forgot he is a White nationalist. Of course, those are worse for our country than black muzzy loving dope smoking corksuckers. Those are the geniuses who really love our country.
yeah he is a white russian nationalist. Just awesome how he gives away top secret stuff, defends Putin to the world, basically says "how high" wh when Put says Jump! You guys would be spittin' blood if Obama did that stuff.
Yeah, sure. Still waiting for the indictments. Much like JeffO waiting for Trump to be indicted. But maybe you will get luckier. After all, Trump holds all the cards. He can't lose now. Well, Putin holds all the cards, but that's not something we want to talk about in public. Might be dangerous.
Now, let's get this thread whipped back into shape, girls!
You should check into getting a new deck 'cause you ain't playin' with a full deck............
Like Billy sold China Orbital Sciences missile guidance tech in China Gate, the previous biggest US govt scandal Hillary tailored her scandal after. And your dumbassed bro Ron Brown cleared the sale only to be arkansided later in a convenient plane crash. Warren Christopher wouldnt allow the deal to go through so your pos dims transferred the task to Browns dept who allowed it to go through.
Tell us how many billions your bud Billy paid to N Korea not to build nukes. Then how many billions did he pay them not to build ICBMs.
Your buds wanted to rename Houston international Air Port after sucker Brown. The joke in Texas was that they wanted to name the airport Nic Ker International.
Constitutional laws against government collusion and conspiracy to prevent a US citizen from becoming president and for trying to affect a silent coup along with paying and using foreign assets in an attempt at overthrowing a duly elected POTUS .
Well hurry up with the prosecution. Should be an open and shut case, right? Where is it?
The left is all schietts and pissed because the national debt is up 2 trillion under Trump but they are happy with the prospects of spending $40 trillion or so under their prospective new dimocommie president.
Man, you are GREAT at laying off the blame for the spending. Trump is spending like NEVER BEFORE. $1 trillion OVER INCOME in this most recent federal fiscal year. A RECORD. Mueller was a drop in the bucket. Democraps couldn't have spent that much if they wanted to. This is all on your boy. But I know, he can do no wrong. Meanwhile, back in the Kremlin, The Pute works out the details on the next batch of orders to the Orange One.
The left is all schietts and pissed because the national debt is up 2 trillion under Trump but they are happy with the prospects of spending $40 trillion or so under their prospective new dimocommie president.
Man, you are GREAT at laying off the blame for the spending. Trump is spending like NEVER BEFORE. $1 trillion OVER INCOME in this most recent federal fiscal year. A RECORD. Mueller was a drop in the bucket. Democraps couldn't have spent that much if they wanted to. This is all on your boy. But I know, he can do no wrong. Meanwhile, back in the Kremlin, The Pute works out the details on the next batch of orders to the Orange One.
Tell us about saving $2500 a year on health insurance. All of my employed patients had theirs increase drastically.
You cant explain being able to keep your dr, open borders, muzzy immigration, shovel ready jobs, 876 billion in tarp funds missing, 5 billion to Qatar, 150 billion to Iran, 145 million to Hillary, releasing illegals in the US, illegal daca, etc, but you keep on swinging, short stop.
The left is all schietts and pissed because the national debt is up 2 trillion under Trump but they are happy with the prospects of spending $40 trillion or so under their prospective new dimocommie president.
Man, you are GREAT at laying off the blame for the spending. Trump is spending like NEVER BEFORE. $1 trillion OVER INCOME in this most recent federal fiscal year. A RECORD. Mueller was a drop in the bucket. Democraps couldn't have spent that much if they wanted to. This is all on your boy. But I know, he can do no wrong. Meanwhile, back in the Kremlin, The Pute works out the details on the next batch of orders to the Orange One.
Tell us about saving $2500 a year on health insurance. All of my employed patients had theirs increase drastically.
You cant explain being able to keep your dr, open borders, muzzy immigration, shovel ready jobs, 876 billion in tarp funds missing, 5 billion to Qatar, 150 billion to Iran, 145 million to Hillary, releasing illegals in the US, illegal daca, etc, but you keep on swinging, short stop.
Yep. The Muzzy Halfican has done more to destroy America than ALL of the other past Presidents combined. NOT TO MEMORIZE BEING A TRAITOROUS POS.
And dumbfuks like LaRoy are happy about what he did. Hes too stupid to understand filling America with muzzies and south Americans and putting them on welfare will destroy the US and then his dimocommie bros wont get their gravytrain welfare and snap benefits.
And dumbfuks like LaRoy are happy about what he did. Hes too stupid to understand filling America with muzzies and south Americans and putting them on welfare will destroy the US and then his dimocommie bros wont get their gravytrain welfare and snap benefits.
Yep. The flood of wetbacks will soon bankrupt the welfare system.
Wonder if that will make the welfare rats turn on the Democraps.
Is Zero worth $40 million and still drawing his POTUS retirement salary?
While Trump is losing millions having divested his holdings and yet giving his salary to worthwhile endeavors?
Yep, laroy, you're too stupid to get a clue.
Even your buds are starting to get a clue with black and brown unemployment down to the best numbers ever in history.
Proof you are retarded and dont give a crap about the financial state of your country as much as you do the CNN fake news line. You love the news that agrees with your feelers.
And dumbfuks like LaRoy are happy about what he did. Hes too stupid to understand filling America with muzzies and south Americans and putting them on welfare will destroy the US and then his dimocommie bros wont get their gravytrain welfare and snap benefits.
Yep. The flood of wetbacks will soon bankrupt the welfare system.
Wonder if that will make the welfare rats turn on the Democraps.
The democrats are quick to turn and eat each other.
They’re devoid of God, morals, patriotism, intelligence, balls, allegiance, love, empathy, respect, etc ad nauseum.
They’ll turn on the democrats once the money runs out and their EBT cards aren’t replenished. They’ll then turn to Bunny Sandus if the old hypocritical bastard is still stealing air.....or more likely, someone that’s FAR FAR to the left of the old bastard. Hopefully by then this country would’ve purged millions from the burden they place on this country.....post second civil war. 😉
Those dumbfucks will be sorry that they instigated the uprising once they realize that the quiet, hardworking conservatives that didn’t want trouble but had no other choice except to fight back. There will be NO timeouts, no mercy and no quarter given until they unconditionally surrender and agree to leave. The ones that survive the uprising and the military tribunals will get a one way ticket to Africa since that continent is a clean slate, as in there’s no formal government on that god forsaken continent. I’m sure that the democrat refugees will create a paradise the likes of which would make Idi Amin proud. 😂
Yep, Ace, "continent is a clean slate, as in there’s no formal government on that god forsaken continent. I’m sure that the democrat refugees will create a paradise the likes of which would make Idi Amin proud. 😂"
LaRoy and crew are too stupid to see this. Yeah, Trump is a bad guy, not Killer Edi Amin, Killer Baby Doc, Mugabi, commie Mandela. Those who dont know history are bound to repeat it. What about those who are too dumb to be able to learn history in the first place? Ditto.
Their stupidity is congenital. Their kind hate and run America down while others from all over the world do whatever they can to try and get here. They cant connect the dots, but Trump is bad. CNN told them so.
Like Billy sold China Orbital Sciences missile guidance tech in China Gate, the previous biggest US govt scandal Hillary tailored her scandal after. And your dumbassed bro Ron Brown cleared the sale only to be arkansided later in a convenient plane crash. Warren Christopher wouldnt allow the deal to go through so your pos dims transferred the task to Browns dept who allowed it to go through.
Tell us how many billions your bud Billy paid to N Korea not to build nukes. Then how many billions did he pay them not to build ICBMs.
Your buds wanted to rename Houston international Air Port after sucker Brown. The joke in Texas was that they wanted to name the airport Nic Ker International.
Don't forget Uranium One and that Hillary gave China live access to her illegal server.
Yet, here we are years and even decades later and there they are Free as a Bird with $Millions$ of illegally obtained funds to enjoy their golden years.
Didn't want to have to type out the entire Constitution and BoR I guess. That's okay. You and jaggies do your best. Always disappointing but it's all you've got and there ain't no more.
Like Billy sold China Orbital Sciences missile guidance tech in China Gate, the previous biggest US govt scandal Hillary tailored her scandal after. And your dumbassed bro Ron Brown cleared the sale only to be arkansided later in a convenient plane crash. Warren Christopher wouldnt allow the deal to go through so your pos dims transferred the task to Browns dept who allowed it to go through.
Tell us how many billions your bud Billy paid to N Korea not to build nukes. Then how many billions did he pay them not to build ICBMs.
Your buds wanted to rename Houston international Air Port after sucker Brown. The joke in Texas was that they wanted to name the airport Nic Ker International.
Don't forget Uranium One and that Hillary gave China live access to her illegal server.
Yet, here we are years and even decades later and there they are Free as a Bird with $Millions$ of illegally obtained funds to enjoy their golden years.
Didn't want to have to type out the entire Constitution and BoR I guess. That's okay. You and jaggies do your best. Always disappointing but it's all you've got and there ain't no more.
We have Trump and truth which is more than you will ever have. Hillary is so unhappy she wont be able to help dumbasses like you she has trouble sleeping at night.
Like Billy sold China Orbital Sciences missile guidance tech in China Gate, the previous biggest US govt scandal Hillary tailored her scandal after. And your dumbassed bro Ron Brown cleared the sale only to be arkansided later in a convenient plane crash. Warren Christopher wouldnt allow the deal to go through so your pos dims transferred the task to Browns dept who allowed it to go through.
Tell us how many billions your bud Billy paid to N Korea not to build nukes. Then how many billions did he pay them not to build ICBMs.
Your buds wanted to rename Houston international Air Port after sucker Brown. The joke in Texas was that they wanted to name the airport Nic Ker International.
Don't forget Uranium One and that Hillary gave China live access to her illegal server.
Yet, here we are years and even decades later and there they are Free as a Bird with $Millions$ of illegally obtained funds to enjoy their golden years.
Like Billy sold China Orbital Sciences missile guidance tech in China Gate, the previous biggest US govt scandal Hillary tailored her scandal after. And your dumbassed bro Ron Brown cleared the sale only to be arkansided later in a convenient plane crash. Warren Christopher wouldnt allow the deal to go through so your pos dims transferred the task to Browns dept who allowed it to go through.
Tell us how many billions your bud Billy paid to N Korea not to build nukes. Then how many billions did he pay them not to build ICBMs.
Your buds wanted to rename Houston international Air Port after sucker Brown. The joke in Texas was that they wanted to name the airport Nic Ker International.
Don't forget Uranium One and that Hillary gave China live access to her illegal server.
Yet, here we are years and even decades later and there they are Free as a Bird with $Millions$ of illegally obtained funds to enjoy their golden years.
Deflect, deflect, deflect.
Get back on the tracks, buddy.
OK, Perjury, Mishandling of Classified materials, FISA abuse, 18 U.S. Code § 2381.Treason 18 U.S. Code § 2384.Seditious conspiracy 18 U.S. Code § 2385.Advocating overthrow of Government
...and of course "Conspiracy", or as the Democrats like t call it "Collusion".
OH and BTW, I'm not your buddy for But-F*cken-POS.
Bean breath is no different than any other democrat. EVERYWHERE they go, be it a city, state, country OR Forum they participate in, they turn it into a schithole.
Like Billy sold China Orbital Sciences missile guidance tech in China Gate, the previous biggest US govt scandal Hillary tailored her scandal after. And your dumbassed bro Ron Brown cleared the sale only to be arkansided later in a convenient plane crash. Warren Christopher wouldnt allow the deal to go through so your pos dims transferred the task to Browns dept who allowed it to go through.
Tell us how many billions your bud Billy paid to N Korea not to build nukes. Then how many billions did he pay them not to build ICBMs.
Your buds wanted to rename Houston international Air Port after sucker Brown. The joke in Texas was that they wanted to name the airport Nic Ker International.
Don't forget Uranium One and that Hillary gave China live access to her illegal server.
Yet, here we are years and even decades later and there they are Free as a Bird with $Millions$ of illegally obtained funds to enjoy their golden years.
Deflect, deflect, deflect.
Get back on the tracks, buddy.
Truth hurts, huh?
Is that why you continually deflect when confronted by the Truth about Trump? Suck it up, buttercup.
Like Billy sold China Orbital Sciences missile guidance tech in China Gate, the previous biggest US govt scandal Hillary tailored her scandal after. And your dumbassed bro Ron Brown cleared the sale only to be arkansided later in a convenient plane crash. Warren Christopher wouldnt allow the deal to go through so your pos dims transferred the task to Browns dept who allowed it to go through.
Tell us how many billions your bud Billy paid to N Korea not to build nukes. Then how many billions did he pay them not to build ICBMs.
Your buds wanted to rename Houston international Air Port after sucker Brown. The joke in Texas was that they wanted to name the airport Nic Ker International.
Don't forget Uranium One and that Hillary gave China live access to her illegal server.
Yet, here we are years and even decades later and there they are Free as a Bird with $Millions$ of illegally obtained funds to enjoy their golden years.
Deflect, deflect, deflect.
Get back on the tracks, buddy.
Truth hurts, huh?
Is that why you continually deflect when confronted by the Truth about Trump? Suck it up, buttercup.
You and your kind wouldnt know the truth if it slapped you in the face. You believe what fake news tells you to believe and you keep believing it when the lie is exposed.
What is it about 4 separate investigations, 2 years and $40 million and Muellers misfire you cant comprehend?
Hatari, it’s amazing how your little thread just keeps chugging along. Like moths to a flame 🔥 the idiot trolls keep coming back for more truth and still can’t understand. I’m usually very careful not to disparage those who have special needs. These asswipes are really making it difficult.
So the babbling drug addicted Jeff is back to lying again
no one is shocked
Originally Posted by Jeff_O
Back from a road trip and I've got the world up my ass as far as work for my shop so I'll try to be brief and to the point here.
First and foremost, there is no outcome here that doesn't result in me eating a big steaming pile of my own shït, so let's just acknowledge that up front. I said I'd own it if I was wrong and I will. In short, anything I said, any insult I tossed out, regarding Trump being guilty of a criminal conspiracy now applies to ME. I will go more specifically into that once we know for sure where things stand, but yes, "you" flat out wiped the floor with me in that regard. You won, I lost. Bad.
The reason I'm hedging slightly is that contrary to what Ack said on the exercise forum- more on that below- we have not seen the Mueller report. We've seen the Barr summary. The line Barr quotes makes it pretty clear he found no criminal conspiracy, hence me owning that, but since we supposedly get to see a redacted full report in a couple short weeks, that's as far as I'm willing to concede things until then. There are several baffling things we KNOW, not from anonymous-sourced WaPo stories or whatever, but from indictments and court documents, that need explained. For instance, we have Trump's campaign manager sending a known Kremlin-linked oligarch internal polling data. I'd like to hear the full story about that, because that reeks to high heaven right on its face. There's a couple more things of that nature, as well. As y'all took great pains to point out, collusion is not a crime! As*I* took great pains to point out, collusion would be pretty fücked-up from a POTUS or his campaign. Anyway, before I eat THAT pile of my own [bleep], I'd like explanations for some known facts, and I'm guessing the full Mueller report will shine light there.
(It's important to realize that high-level prosecutors speak very precisely. The quote Barr pulled said in essence that there was no conspiracy with the Russian STATE. Wiki, for instance, is not the Russian state; yet it was an instrument being used by the Russian state to attack us. Does the paragraph or pages after what Barr pulled, go into that? Trump knew Wiki was aligned with Russia. I'd like to know more there, and my guess- yeah, yeah, yeah, I know- is that there's gonna be some pretty interesting stuff there. So I'm gonna wait the two weeks and see, before I concede that.)
But I'm under no illusions here, generally speaking. At a bare minimum I was purely wrong about a large swath of this, and it's probably gonna be worse than that.
I'm gonna piss "you" off here by pointing out that you were largely wrong too. You were full-throated participants in the purely partisan effort to tear down an honorable American and to a degree, the rule of law itself. ANYONE could see this mess needed looking into. From POTUS on down, everyone involved was lying their fool asses off at every turn. If there's an innocent explanation for that, too, I want to hear it. And I'd hope you would acknowledge, even just internally, that it wasn't just me who went full-retard on this whole thing. You did too. Being "right" doesn't change that any more than it would if I was "right". You guys had this all set up to discredit Mueller, he was the devil incarnate, which makes it pretty ironic that suddenly you are his best buddy... I said I'd accept his findings either way, but my point is, you did not. So a huge swath of what you were presenting as a vast deep state conspiracy turns out to be bullshït. Will you acknowledge THAT? Will you own your own crap, like I am? I'm interested to see what quality of folk I'm dealing with here in that regard.
Finally, if you want me to actually see and acknowledge the shït you want me to eat, STAY OFF THE EXERCISE THREAD. I will plonk you into the ignore folder in a heartbeat. Ask Deflave about that. He follows me around like a plaintive little kid begging for my attention and I don't see a word of it. That'll be your fate as well if you go to that thread with this crap. Fair warning. I'll take my medicine HERE, like I said I would, but you go there and screw that thread up, I'll never see another word you type.
And finally finally, this is all GOOD NEWS! Hell, I'd much rather eat a plate of my own shït than have a POTUS in league with an adversary. Anyone who's paid attention to my political views over the years knows that I share at least some of the major planks of Trumpism. I was talking crap about NATO and our global military footprint long ago, right here on this forum, before it was a twinkle in many of your eyes, in fact many of you gave me crap for it. I was preaching a form of economic isolationism then, too. In short, I want this country to be great and with Russian conspiracy off the table I can give my support to the parts of Trump's agenda I do support, and I will, and that actually feels kinda good!
Enjoy the win, you deserve it, and I'll be back once the full report drops, and STAY OFF THE EXERCISE THREAD in the meantime if you ever want me read what you type again. Serious about that, starting now.
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