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That's the reason I put it in quotes. The commonly referred to Establishment Clause of the First Amendment is this:

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof"

In layman's terms it means the government can't establish a state church and make you join it, nor can they stop you from practicing the religion of your choice. The threat of taxation for the purpose of stopping the free expression of religion falls under the "prohibiting the free exercise thereof" part.

Nowhere in there does it say a church can't speak out against the government. It prohibits government reprisal against churches, not the other way around.

You should spend a little more time on your reading skills and lees time working on being an ass hole.

While I don't lap up the Trump kool aid like a lot of you I actually think he's doing a pretty good with his first trip abroad and wasn't ripping on him. I simply don't think this particular Pope is worthy of his time.

I also don't give a f*ck where the Pope lives....he dam sure injects himself into politics and that should disallow the catholic religion's tax exempt status in every country...especially the US. Religion has no place in politics....period.

Touchy? Listen up Grade school. How does the Pope inject himself into politics?
Popes twisting presidents arms and making them do something they
don't want to do?
Religion has no place in politics? Are you for real???
It's Freedom "of" religion
NOT
Freedom "from" religion
God is being taken out of our society ...and look at
the society we have.

Pope frank looked at Melania and Trump and said ........." after gazing upon you ,my dear, .....I am re-thinking my vow of Celibacy.....where's the alter boy?"

Vatican City is a country. The Pope is the head of state. Presidents visit heads of state.
The Johnson amendment to the Internal Revenue Code of 1954 makes organizations endorsing a political candidate or intending to influencing legislation to be ineligible for 501(c)(3) tax exempt status.
501(c) is the most common type of tax exempt charitable organization. Many of you probably belong to one in the form of a church, a sportsman's club, Rotary, etc.

(3) Corporations, and any community chest, fund, or foundation, organized and operated exclusively for religious [ . . . ] purposes [ . . . ] no part of the net earnings of which inures to the benefit of any private shareholder or individual, no substantial part of the activities of which is carrying on propaganda, or otherwise attempting, to influence legislation (except as otherwise provided in subsection (h) [relating to certain expenditures by charities to influence legislation]), and which does not participate in, or intervene in (including the publishing or distributing of statements), any political campaign on behalf of (or in opposition to) any candidate for public office.

This applies to your churches and temples and their representatives/leaders in that capacity.
It does not apply to a foreign head of state. The Pope, the Chancellor of Germany, and the Queen of England can say whatever he/she wants and do so in front of God and everybody; it doesn't violate US law.

Atheists or Scientologists or whatever you call yourselves are a bunch of snowflakes that can't handle someone else having a different beleif - kind of like socialists and Nazis. The constitution guarantees freedom from a state sponsored religion, i.e. the Church of England, and freedom to practice, or not, any religion you wish, or do not. It does not guarantee freedom from seeing a symbol of a religion nor the right to ban or interfere with the free practice of another's religion. Snowflakes that can't handle seeing a cross, well, share a safe space with the lady who flips out when she sees a confederate flag.

The New Atheist Movement wants to remove, counter, and destroy religion. Guess what? The intelligentsia leaders of the New Atheism are socialists and communists who want to destroy the Constitution.
Take freedom to practice away, take away free speech, firearms, freedom from search and seizure. It's all the same guys, it's taking away someone's rights. Maybe I should pick and atheists lose freedom of speech and the 2nd amendment because it

Yes many catholics are dumb , I know that from life long immersion in generational Roman catholic Irish and mediterranean
families and communities abroad..... especially rock dumb when they tell me the Pope is the head of the church and praying
to statues of Mary and Joseph.....Morons claiming to be devout christians is a common thing.

Pope is the head of the church = moronic
praying to Mary & Joseph = moronic

Not near as moronic as you.