I have four pretty decent .22 boltguns, three CZs and an RAR, and the SuperX HPs (all I've tried) have been uniformly the worst ammo I've tried in them. Hands down, absolutely the worst (I haven't tried any Remington stuff, I refuse to put out the money for it).
I seldom buy solids. I buy stuff I'd hunt with, and don't mess with 'target ammo'.
I used to have pretty good luck with it, but today's WW stuff ain't worth messin' with, at least in my rifles. They'll do half-inch at 50 yards with HP CCIs or Federals, and I don't buy Remingtons, and the Winchesters are crap. I won't be buying any more.
These were the 100 packs in plastic boxes. Cabela's had them during the shortage, so I picked up 200 to add to the pile.
You can roll a turd in peanuts, dip it in chocolate, and it still ain't no damn Baby Ruth.
Looks like the good ol' days of high volume pleasure shooting while keeping the wallet fat are over. Shame. I was raised on Remington's "Thunderbolts". I like Mexican Aguilar ammo. Lots of different rimfire options. Affordable as well. I got a 30 carbine and their center fire is great as well. What's the world coming to when Mexico makes better ammo than America? Does anybody make 22WMR that is decent for under $13.00?
W-W HV stuff never does very well for me, and I honestly can't remember how well it did for me a generation ago. But, for the last 40 years I have observed the most consistency with standard vel and target ammo, which is what one can legitimately expect. I gave up on HV and HVHP ammo for hunting loooong ago and rely entirely on the really good target ammo- Tenex/Gold Ultra Match/etc.- for that now. Accuracy is paramount to me and small critters die from it.
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Good info, Butch they might be collectors fodder! Lol.
I have a stash of original PP that is the deadliest ammo I've used on game, and shoots bugholes at 50 yds in a 77/22 w/a re-worked - now 17" Butler Creek Bull Bbl, zero chamber by CPC.
Yes, I never bought match ammo, and use the less expensive solids for "plinking" and practice. Saving the more expensive HP for hunting. I have read many good reports of "alternative" brands, it really seems like RP and WW have bit the dust on most of their ammo. I even recall a time when RP made a match ammo that some said was decent.
Times have changed. Wish I could buy stock in these ammo companies...
Perhaps us Fire members need to start a new mfg company....
That is a shame to hear of the decline of Super-X. I still have most of a case of it bought around the turn of the century and it is as accurate as anything else short of dedicated match ammo, and still close on the heels of that.
Same thing happened with cheapo Wildcat ammo. A friend and I bought a few 5,000 round cases at K-Mart for $90/case (1.8 cents/round, the good old days ) back in the mid-80's and I used that up through the late 90's to win several smallbore silhouette matches. When it ran out I bought some recent production stuff and it was crap.
CCI AR-Tactical seems to be pretty decent, I stocked up on that before Obama II and it shoots great in all my .22's. I see they've raised the price and lowered the round count - used to be 375 rounds in a bulk box and now it's 300 - but Cabela's and on-line dealers seem to have a good supply so I should probably get a box to evaluate.
Before Obama II decent ammo was around 6 cents/rd with the cheapest bulk around 4 cts/rd, now it looks like 9 to 12 cents/rd for good ammo is the new standard. I think you can get bulk stuff for a bit cheaper but for the past few years the bulk .22 ammo I've bought shot so badly it seemed to be false economy to buy it unless I just wanted to make noise and roll tin cans at close range. Geez, just gonna have to not think about it costing a buck every time I load up the 10/22 magazine...
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I had asked a similar question over at Rimfire Central concerning T-22 and was told that the Winchester 22 LR ammo made today is NOTHING like 20-30 years ago. I still have some of the Old that a LGS had that I bought 4 bricks of the same lot # as it shoots consistently well in several 22's that I own
I've had some WW that shot pretty accurately, but I agree that for the bulk stuff at least, the quality and reliability is not very good. Too bad. I think they were much better years ago.
Wow, I was just going to post a "range report" that the 40HP Super X seems to shoot pretty good in my 10/22. I did get one total dud with two rim strikes, and this was hunting hilly gophers inside 75 yards. I hadn't touched a rifle in eight months before my shoot, so I thought the misses were my fault, but the hits were authoritative. I guess I need to shoot some paper.
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I rather liked the one box of Winchester 42gr Max Powerpoint I tried last weekend. Guess it's made in Australia and of reported "old Super X quality". Didn't make it to big gunshow today, so gotta hunt for 2 bricks of the stuff. My Anschutz 184 loves it.
I rather liked the one box of Winchester 42gr Max Powerpoint I tried last weekend. Guess it's made in Australia and of reported "old Super X quality". Didn't make it to big gunshow today, so gotta hunt for 2 bricks of the stuff. My Anschutz 184 loves it.
Winchester - Max 22 LR Power Point CPHP 42 Gr 50 Rounds $5.05 ($0.10 per round) SKU: WNPP22LRH42U Weight: 0.43 LBS Availability: Usually ships within 24 hours of your order being placed. Current Stock: Available
) back in the mid-80's and I used that up through the late 90's to win several smallbore silhouette matches. When it ran out I bought some recent production stuff and it was crap.