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Good! That's what he gets for torturing an animal to death for other peoples pleasure! ] Like hunting, huh?
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Good! That's what he gets for torturing an animal to death for other peoples pleasure! ] Like hunting, huh? Good thing nobody hunts with a bow...
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Sad for the Matador, his family, any youngsters seeing their first bullfight, but as mentioned earlier the risk of death or injury is a big part of the allure of man vs beast. The closest comparison is ironically dangerous game hunting - - most of the time the hunter eats the Cape buffalo but once in a while he or the PH are on the losing end and get the same treatment as the bullfighter.
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I recommend Ernest Hemingway's Death in the Afternoon. Its a mostly nonfiction explanation of the details of bullfighting. The roles of the various men. The condensed version, tire and damage the bull's neck muscles so he charges with his head low enough to get the sword into the heart from between the shoulder blades. No Thanks! He has to charge you and miss! I read this book as a young man made me want to try it.
Fast forward to yesterday. I had planned to borrow my neighbor's bull for my cows, next month. Yesterday, the bull decided breeding season comes early this year. He got out, ran through my yard, past my little boys, and through my fence. The bull's owner and I decided to keep him here. It will move our calving up, but I don't think we can keep the bull out now that he found my herd. Bulls scare me. Faster than me, 10 times my size. So far this bull is calm, for a bull. Generally, I don't want testicles on any animal bigger than a chicken. I used to want to be a bull fighter, but now I feel like I should be armed in my own yard. Today, we'll move the herd to a pasture far from the house. So far, I like this bull better than the jersey we borrowed last time. That thing was mean, hated me, and didn't respect fences. This new bull got shocked a few times and hasn't touched the fence since.
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the object in hunting is to get a clean, fast kill. In bullfighting, the object is to stretch it out for a long time. The bull is speared repeatedly in the neck so it's head motion is restricted which protects the matador to some extent. The horses used are covered with thick padding to protect them. This is a fairly recent requirement. Formerly, more horses got killed in the ring than bulls, usually by disemboweling. A day of bullfighting could result in the deaths of 6 bulls and 6 to 8 horses.
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An American was touring Europe where one evening he is having dinner at a fancy restaurant. During his dinner, a big procession occurs whereby a man at an adjacent table is ceremoniously presented with two huge globular shaped items on a golden plate. The tourist, intrigued, asks his waiter what the spectacle was all about.
Waiter: "Senor, those are the testicles from the bull the matador slayed in the ring today. It is a great honor to be served those."
Tourist: "I would very much like to take part in this honor, is there a way I could experience it?"
Waiter: "Si Senor, but we must wait for another bull fight to have the proper ingredients."
A week later, the tourist receives a call from the waiter informing him another bull fight has occurred and he has procured the main ingredient needed. A reservation is set for later that evening.
That night, the tourist is seated at his table and anxiously awaits the ceremony he witness just the week before. The ceremony occurs with all the splendor the tourist remembered, but when the waiter finally reaches his table and presents the golden platter, the tourist is disappointed to see that the testicles he is presented with are tiny in comparison to the ones he saw last week. Saddened, he inquires with his waiter why the difference, which the waiter responds, "Senor, sometimes the matador does not win."
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Back in the early - mid 60's bull fights from Mexico used to be aired in Chicago on regular TV (IIRC on WGN) with nothing censored. Had TV commentators same as regular televised sports, too. Depending on the quality of the Matador's performance he could get awarded an ear, both ears, or both ears and the tail from the bull.
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I have been to a "bull fight" in Mexico. I left before it was over and it was added to the long list of reasons I will never visit that country again. Once was enough.
As for the original post, my hat is off to the bull for beating the odds and winning.
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Uncle had a cow and calf near the house to watch, he had her for many years never a problem, she was even named, four/five years ago he was in the pen and she nailed him. Broken ribs, lacerated kidney, he had nearly bled out by the time he got to ER........ they can be bad when they put their mind to it.............. they butchered her the next month. Aunt Pearl said 'make sure' I want the whole thing ground into burger!?!? PS: don't pizz off Aunt Pearl
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... The condensed version, tire and damage the bull's neck muscles so he charges with his head low enough to get the sword into the heart from between the shoulder blades. . It has been years since I watched bullfighting on TV, but every one I ever saw, the final sword thrust was at a standing animal, not charging, but agree the bull has to be worn out to stand with it's head held low.
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The bull is more than just worn out. His neck is so badly injured that he can't lift it.
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Reports say that the Bull's left horn penetrated the Matador's anus and was buried up to the skull. The undertaker is reportedly unable to remove the smile from the deceased's face. FOAD, A S S H O L E
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Anybody who slowly tortures animals to death for sport/entertainment deserves a horn up his ass. Some sick f^ckers here for sure comparing this to hunting.
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Anybody who slowly tortures animals to death for sport/entertainment deserves a horn up his ass. Some sick f^ckers here for sure comparing this to hunting. Yeah. It's just totally insane to compare one form of killing animals for sport/entertainment to another.
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Hunting is killing animals for entertainment?
I don't see it that way.
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And your post after a PH was killed by an elephant
Originally Posted by simonkenton7 Mess with the bull, you get the horn. I have been a deer hunter for 30 years and have killed over 90 whietail, and a bunch of hogs. And I ate them.
I can't see the attraction of killing these animals in Africa for "trophies." Glad to see the elephants getting revenge.
What a piece of sheit you are. That's exactly the first thing I thought when I read his post.
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Anybody who slowly tortures animals to death for sport/entertainment deserves a horn up his ass. Some sick f^ckers here for sure comparing this to hunting. Yeah. It's just totally insane to compare one form of killing animals for sport/entertainment to another. Why yes it is. And you'd be one of the first dumb old hypocrites here to condemn some sicko who was found tortring dogs/cats to death in his basement for fun. Like I said, some sick f^ckers here.
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Reports say that the Bull's left horn penetrated the Matador's anus and was buried up to the skull. The undertaker is reportedly unable to remove the smile from the deceased's face. grow up son
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Reports say that the Bull's left horn penetrated the Matador's anus and was buried up to the skull. The undertaker is reportedly unable to remove the smile from the deceased's face. Really? What a totally unclassy thing to say... GMAFB. Are you serious? Do you know what they do to these animals prior to the "Dance"? Obviously, you don't. The deck is stacked heavily against the animal. Fortunately, most always, the meat is consumed at the end. "Bull Fighter" isn't quite an accurate description of a Matador. Piercing the heart of the bull, through the shoulder blades, after an extended blood letting, and weakening of the animal, is the goal. No doubt there is still a lot of danger in what they do. But I don't feel a damn bit sorry for one that the animal gets the best of, before it is destroyed. do you enjoy a steak, how about a big Mac.? Obviously you have never been to a feedlot or slaughter house. go hug a bunny
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