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The 45-70 is a classic example of how reloading can help. The old guns can't handle a lot of pressure. Ammo makers have to make ammo that can be shot in all guns of that caliber or they'll end up blowing up some old guns. So, they load it down. Some of the newer guns can handle much higher pressure, well above the ammo that's on the shelves. The only way to make use of the gun's ability is to load your own. Aren't the factory offernings for the military Mauser rounds the same way?
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Nosler Accubond. 165 308, 110 257R.
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.308 I use the 165 gr fusion loads 30/30 either 170 gr federal blue box or fusion. Have a mix of both in my ammo pouch, they shoot to same poi (at least close enough with iron sights) 300 savage I've gone to 180 gr federal blue box since remington dropped their 180 gr load. Have both federal and rem 150 gr on hand, but currently sighted in for the 180s 250 savage not a lot of factory choice - 100 gr remington express. I do have a stash of old 87 gr winchester super-x on hand too.
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Count me in as another deer hunter that reloads. The last time I lobbed a factory load at a deer was 20 years ago. If memory serves, the last factory load that I shot at a deer was Musgrave 30-06 180 RN. I still have several boxes of the stuff. Back then, it was a good idea to find a load that shot well in your deer rifle and buy up as much of the same lot as possible. This Musgrave stuff ( South African as I remember) shot as well as anything else I could find for my Remington 742 and it was cheap. I bought a case of it in the mid 80's. I'd still say it is a good idea. Find something that shoots well-- cheaper the better. And buy as much of it as you can. Here is the long version: What's the Best Factory Ammo?
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The 45-70 is a classic example of how reloading can help. The old guns can't handle a lot of pressure. Ammo makers have to make ammo that can be shot in all guns of that caliber or they'll end up blowing up some old guns. So, they load it down. Some of the newer guns can handle much higher pressure, well above the ammo that's on the shelves. The only way to make use of the gun's ability is to load your own. Aren't the factory offernings for the military Mauser rounds the same way? Maybe ammo from the American Big 3. European companies load them up to spec, assuming, I suppose, that shooters should know how to keep their fingers, toes, and eyes where they belong. Some 8mm ammo from U.S. companies is in the .30/30 class.
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I'd say the biggest reason to load for 45-70 is there's no good factory DEER ammo....everything is geared towards shooting through some buffalo or grizzly.
For most other stuff, I load, but I've also killed lotsa stuff with 243 fusions, 223 power points, and 356/358 silver tips. The fusions are a good deer bullet.
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I have had good luck with the Federal Fusions on deer, also Hornady Interlocks.
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Having several different rifles they all seem to have their favorites. The 7mm08 Savage likes the hornady superformance 139 grain. The 35 remington shoots the 200 grain rem coreloct very well and the 45/75 likes the Hornady LE 325grain. But this year I am going to try and kill a deer with my hand cast and powdercoated 250 grain in the Marlin 375. When I still had 30-30 rifles I found each one had a different favorite round and at one time I had oiver 30 different boxes of 30-30 ammo. I say feed them what they like.
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