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Released to quite a bit of controversy at the NRA show, the NRA’s Carry Guard program is again the focus of controversy. As listed on the NRA’s Carry Guard website, instructions for prospective students of their “Level 1” program are specifically asked not to bring revolvers or 1911s as “primary firearms” to the classes. This instruction is added as a note to bringing a full-size or compact handgun:

*NOTE: NRA Carry Guard Level One is designed for training with a semi-automatic handgun (Glock 19/17, Sig P226/P228 or equivalent). We will not allow revolvers or 1911s as your primary firearm in this class.

I can understand the reasoning to NOT want revolvers in a semi-auto class, but the decision to specifically bar the 1911 is most peculiar and likely to draw some ire of the NRA membership and potential student base.
I mean, the instruction simply does not add up. The NRA specifically asks for a “semi-automatic handgun” but then disallows America’s favorite semi-auto? I can understand if the program wants a minimum capacity, but even that does not make sense as they mention bringing backup guns, etc which then has the 1911 allowed:

You should bring a secondary firearm that you carry concealed, as well as a holster for such. We will run the course with a primary carry weapon and then run a course of fire with a secondary or back-up gun to evaluate the differences. Please bring at least 40 rounds of ammo appropriate for your carry firearm for this portion of the class. Revolvers, 1911s and/or subcompacts can be used for this portion of the class. (emphasis added)

If anything, the NRA should have set a type of handgun and impartial requirements. Instead, they are managing to shoot themselves in the foot with Carry Guard yet again…

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2017/06/17/breaking-nra-disallows-1911-handguns-carry-guard-classes/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheFirearmBlog+%28The+Firearm+Blog%29


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Proly too many instructors shooting themselves with 1911s.

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Oh oh, to many tripping over walkers and canes. 😂😂😂😂😂

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I'd have to bring a broomstick Mauser just to tell'em to stick it...


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What is wrong with the 1911's?

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Its not a Glock.


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sounds like a class taught by millennials, and attended by millennials.


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Metrosexuals don't carry 1911's.


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Sounds like Glock, Sig, and other manufacturers are footing the bill and paying off the NRA.


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They know that the time of the 1911 has passed. LOL.

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Cooper just turned over in his grave and told them to kiss his ass


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Except for a few mouse guns, I only own 1911s and revolvers. grin But then, I wouldn't be attending any of these classes either.


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Originally Posted by Northman
Its not a Glock.



that was my first thought.

the 1911 is not a glamour gun


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Will they allow me to bring my Colt 1873 Peacemaker as my primary? If not, I call foul.

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Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Will they allow me to bring my Colt 1873 Peacemaker as my primary? If not, I call foul.


Government should not be in the business of telling someone what they should carry. Neither should any organization or training class.

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Sounds like they understand that the manipulation of 1911s require a higher level of proficiency prior to the class that most may not have.

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Originally Posted by stevelyn
Sounds like they understand that the manipulation of 1911s require a higher level of proficiency prior to the class that most may not have.



If they are carrying for defense reasons, they need a high level of proficiency, no matter what they carry.


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