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so our law changed this year. 45-70 or 44 mag in a Marlin? which one and why? should I be considering another option?
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I'm not going to recommend one over the other for deer. I've had both and found them equally capable. When you get into bigger game the .45-70 will have an advantage, but deer?, either/or.
It would come down to how much weight you'd like to haul around, the .44 generally being lighter, both ammo and rifle. With that out of the way, I recently sold my .44 rifle, but it had nothing to do with the cartridge/rifle vs .45-70, but instead of simply having too many rifles....
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Why not both? Works 4 me.
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The 44 would be my choice based purely on the rifle. They're a bit handier than the 45-70 for me.
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What about range? Wouldn't the 44 run out of steam way before a 4570?
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I took several deer with a 444 and a 45/70. The 44 mag would be handy for stalking or driving, imo. Tight close work.
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I took several deer with a 444 and a 45/70. The 44 mag would be handy for stalking or driving, imo. Tight close work.
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Several things to consider between the two cartridges. Like said in previous post the 44mag would be lighter to carry with less recoil. 44mag will have a capacity of 10rds. in rifle while the 45-70 will have 5rds. if that makes any difference. I did have a 1895 SS in 45-70 and sold it. Not familiar with a 44mag in rifle, but handgun I have. I have a 1894C 357mag in the Marlin that is a pleasure to shoot and is capable of using on deer if you limit your shot and place shot placement where it counts.Marlin discontinued the 357mag in their lever gun. Rossi and Henry still produce the 357mag in their lever gun. Which one is available in you area far as ammo? Do you reload your own ammo? 44mag would tend to be cheaper and with less recoil I believe you will tend to shoot more often to get more proficient with rifle. With the handgun cartridges you can shoot the special rounds in it.(44mag/44 special) same with the 357mag/38 special). Also you can pair up with a handgun which you can do also with the 45-70 with Magnum Research BFR revolver or T/C single shot handgun. But recoil would be more in 45-70 in handgun.
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Whether handloading or shooting factory ammunition the 44 will be cheaper to shoot, not sure how much that will affect your decision.
How much rifle weight do you want to carry around?
Also I have no clue about recoil of the little 44s but if you are recoil sensitive I would think with anything other than mild Trapdoor loads the 45-70 would have more recoil.
I don't know 100% how trajectories compare but that could be another consideration if you have places where you need to stretch out a little bit if the 45-70 does shoot flatter.
Pretty sure there isn't a deer around that would know the difference if shot within 150 yards.
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What about range? Wouldn't the 44 run out of steam way before a 4570? Not to any great degree. Both shoot bricks. The .45-70 would hold the advantage in huge bullets that shoot through big things, but neither sets the long-range world on fire if held to modern parameters. On deer, and with bullets suitable for deer, unless discussing minutia, it's a wash.
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shots will be limited to 150 yards. I like the idea of lighter in a 1894 Marlin do handload so not a problem. I was looking at the Buffalo Bore deer grenades. They look like an equalizer out to the 150 mark.
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ever consider a smokeless Muzzle loader? completely legal and much more range than a 45-70 I'm shooting a 325 Pittman Aeromax @ 2850 fps, with practice and a good rest it's a 500 yd killer
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shots will be limited to 150 yards. I like the idea of lighter in a 1894 Marlin do handload so not a problem. I was looking at the Buffalo Bore deer grenades. They look like an equalizer out to the 150 mark. Sounds like your mind is pretty much made up. Now you just need to find a JM stamped 1894 and get to shooting!!
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shots will be limited to 150 yards. I like the idea of lighter in a 1894 Marlin do handload so not a problem. I was looking at the Buffalo Bore deer grenades. They look like an equalizer out to the 150 mark. I have a '92 in 44 mag. So fun. I killed some deer and many hogs with mine. I tried different ammo and the Hornady Lever Revolution shot a little better than most others BUT it s on game performance left something to be desired. Compared to the SKS (my other hog gun ) there was a marked difference. I went to a hollow point and expect better results. By that I mean bit more shock value and stuff STAYING down. Think you make a great call on the BB ammo for deer. The Lever Revolution might be better ammo in other calibers but I am not alone in being disappointed with the 44 mag stuff. Good luck and congrats on your new rifle. I LOVE toting the B92 around and do pretty well with it out to 100yds.
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I have a spare shooter grade pre safety 44 mag I would sell/ trade. Pm me if you would like.
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Neither, you need a 444. I happen to have one....
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shots will be limited to 150 yards. I like the idea of lighter in a 1894 Marlin do handload so not a problem. I was looking at the Buffalo Bore deer grenades. They look like an equalizer out to the 150 mark. SLDUCK, It sounds like you're leaning toward a 44 magnum. Something to keep in mind, the Marlin 1894 has a 1/38" twist while the Ruger 77/44 has a 1/20" twist which will stabilize the heavier bullets better. I've had both and I liked the Ruger much better. Just to muddy the water, the Marlin Guide Gun in 45-70 is a blast too! None of them are going to bounce off a deer
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Whatever tickles your fancy more. I've used a .44 mag in the past. Recently picked up a .45-70 but haven't taken a deer with it yet. I'll do that this year. But I don't think the deer will care much either way. -Jake
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When 2 choices cover the immediate need, I'd opt for the one that offers scope outside the immediate need.
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