I found this Winchester 1895 last fall at a gun show. It was marked 30 Gov. and sold to me as a 30/40 Craig. Turned out it was a 30/06. I found an original peep sight on line, it cost an arm and a leg but it was an original nor a reproduction sight and it looks like it's been on the gun forever.
It likes Rem 220gr and I had a ball hunting with it. I took this big doe in the late season. I turned 81 in March and it's cool to hunt with a gun that's older than me.....
Very nice. I'm a bit bias on 1895's. I think they are one of the greatest rifles, EVER!!!
Founder Ancient Order of the 1895 Winchester
"Come, shall we go and kill us venison? And yet it irks me the poor dappled fools, Being native burghers of this desert city, Should in their own confines with forked heads Have their round haunches gored."
"Come, shall we go and kill us venison? And yet it irks me the poor dappled fools, Being native burghers of this desert city, Should in their own confines with forked heads Have their round haunches gored."
Heck, I think that anyone who is 81 and still going afield can hunt with any rifle that they want!
I've got two 1895 carbines, one in 30-40, AKA .30 U.S. Army, and one in 303 British. The 30-40 came off a mountain ranch in southern Colorado, south of Pagosa Springs and close by the New Mexico line, and the 303B came out of the Eastern Township of Quebec. Whenever I dig one of them out and handle it, I am graphically reminded what a brilliant man of vision John Moses Browning was.
I have read that most of the 1895s were military rifle made for Czarist Russia during the early years of WW1, but they seem to be among the least common of military surplus firearms that find their way into the U.S.
They had a segment on the Win 1895 on one of the gun shows last night. That's what prompted me to post the pictures of my success with mine last season.
I found an old half rack elk antler in an antique store. It's dark with age and someone had made it into a hanging lamp. It looks great against the barn wood paneling. One of the short points goes through the trigger guard and holds the gun securely.
Terrific Inspiration, and I gotta say, the gun and pics are FANTASTIC!!
Awesome post.
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I think (hope) I got a glimpse into the future! I have and wear the same hat & coat plus love the "climbing Lyman" equipped 1895s! Hunted mine (a .405) a bit last year but found a I need to replace the front sight with an ivory bead. The bead is missing on mine and I couldn't get a good enough sight picture on the one buck I saw. Congrats on your hunt, rifle and the drive to get out there and enjoy it all.
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The gun I shot my first buck with was this Mod 94 30-30 in 1952 when I was 16 years old. The rack is above the gun and my picture is on the right with the buck on my dad's 1949 Nash
Trump HAD the World, ", Trump saw our children, " Trump saw a way to make a brighter day so he started giving There was a choice he was making, he was saving our own lives Its true he made a brighter day for you and me. --Trump WINS 2016
"Come, shall we go and kill us venison? And yet it irks me the poor dappled fools, Being native burghers of this desert city, Should in their own confines with forked heads Have their round haunches gored."
A few Rangers with a few SRC's (except for that one goofball in front. Looks like he has a Savage 99) 😂
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Founder Ancient Order of the 1895 Winchester
"Come, shall we go and kill us venison? And yet it irks me the poor dappled fools, Being native burghers of this desert city, Should in their own confines with forked heads Have their round haunches gored."
"Come, shall we go and kill us venison? And yet it irks me the poor dappled fools, Being native burghers of this desert city, Should in their own confines with forked heads Have their round haunches gored."
And. BTW, all you 1895 Win owners are now members(if you so wish), of "The Ancient Order Of The 1895 Winchester", with all rights and benefits. Which BTW, are damn few! 😊
Founder Ancient Order of the 1895 Winchester
"Come, shall we go and kill us venison? And yet it irks me the poor dappled fools, Being native burghers of this desert city, Should in their own confines with forked heads Have their round haunches gored."
Great Thread Ron! i looked a at a 1895 Mil. md in 30-40 yesterday at a gun show it looked redone they wanted way to much for it. the resto just didnt look right to me. but it looked all there! maybe one day Ill join the club!
"Come, shall we go and kill us venison? And yet it irks me the poor dappled fools, Being native burghers of this desert city, Should in their own confines with forked heads Have their round haunches gored."
I know where there's a NIB Browning repo (no safety) available for about a grand. Need to take a cold shower and find something to take my mind off stuff I don't need.
Pappy NIB Browning for that money ain't too dang bad!
My old Browning 30/06
And 2015's bull that succumbed to a factory 180 grain RN core-lokt
Founder Ancient Order of the 1895 Winchester
"Come, shall we go and kill us venison? And yet it irks me the poor dappled fools, Being native burghers of this desert city, Should in their own confines with forked heads Have their round haunches gored."
I know where there's a NIB Browning repo (no safety) available for about a grand. Need to take a cold shower and find something to take my mind off stuff I don't need.
Except for the Hawkins recoil pad, which was added MANY years ago, this one cost me several hundred dollars BELOW $1000. I thought that was more than fair for a 113 year old 1895.
Winchester liked to never got those stripper clip guides to work!!! They were a headache!
Founder Ancient Order of the 1895 Winchester
"Come, shall we go and kill us venison? And yet it irks me the poor dappled fools, Being native burghers of this desert city, Should in their own confines with forked heads Have their round haunches gored."
Only photos. But I'm hermitized and don't get out much!!! 😂 And to think almost what??? Almost 600,000 made? I remember seeing the adds from was it Hunter's Lodge? Back in the 60's. "These rifles still have Trotsky's teeth marks on them!"
Some didn't make it to Russia. I believe the shipment was stopped in England in 1917 as the Czar abdicated. So I've heard. Mebbe urban myth.
But lots ended up in Spain in the 30's and also China like late 40's.
Founder Ancient Order of the 1895 Winchester
"Come, shall we go and kill us venison? And yet it irks me the poor dappled fools, Being native burghers of this desert city, Should in their own confines with forked heads Have their round haunches gored."
You story of the mis-purchase of your 95 (sold to you as 30/40) reminds me of walking into our local Small town shop one day. Lo and behold there's a std 1895 rifle on the rack. I asked to see it. The shop owner hands it to me and say "it a 30/06!"
On top of receiver it is stamped .30 Govt 1903. So I try to explain the difference to him. And he's still maybe a bit skeptical. Then again he does own the shop so that makes him the authority. And we all know the type of experts that frequent these establishments. 😁 So the next week I drop by and kindly lay this box on their counter and tell the guy "this is the correct cartridge for that 95." He was a bit flabbergasted but thankful. Admitted he had never heard of the ctg!
Btw, I felt their rifle was a bit overpriced. But someone will buy it, Im sure!
Founder Ancient Order of the 1895 Winchester
"Come, shall we go and kill us venison? And yet it irks me the poor dappled fools, Being native burghers of this desert city, Should in their own confines with forked heads Have their round haunches gored."
"Come, shall we go and kill us venison? And yet it irks me the poor dappled fools, Being native burghers of this desert city, Should in their own confines with forked heads Have their round haunches gored."
Regardless of what anyone else says, they are fun to hunt with!!!
I have no issue toting one around the woods! They are not unwieldy or difficult for me!!
And they are just über cool!!!
Founder Ancient Order of the 1895 Winchester
"Come, shall we go and kill us venison? And yet it irks me the poor dappled fools, Being native burghers of this desert city, Should in their own confines with forked heads Have their round haunches gored."
Anyone got any thoughts on the Lyman #21 peep sights on the 1895?
In my opinion, an 1895 ain't hardly correct without one! (except maybe a SRC). I'm a big fan of the "Climbing Lyman", I have one on my .405 '95. My late fathers M64 carbine was fitted with one as was his older brothers Remington 141. Now I'm thinking of picking up an 1894 rifle in .25-35 thatbecause it has a Lyman.
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I have a question on those Lymans. Given about a 28" sight radius, .008" movement of the rear sight equals 1 inch at 100 yards. x/28 = 1/3600. It's actually .007777777" movement but let's not quibble over billionths. So if that sight has 2" of travel, that's 257 MOA elevation adjustment. Even if it's only 1" of travel that's still 128 MOA. Now the numbers can be juggled some but you only need about 45 MOA elevation change to go from a 100 yard sight in to 1000 yards in a typical .30-06 load.
So my question is, exactly what was that much elevation adjustment supposed to be used for?
Gunnery, gunnery, gunnery. Hit the target, all else is twaddle!
Anyone got any thoughts on the Lyman #21 peep sights on the 1895?
In my opinion, an 1895 ain't hardly correct without one! (except maybe a SRC). I'm a big fan of the "Climbing Lyman", I have one on my .405 '95. My late fathers M64 carbine was fitted with one as was his older brothers Remington 141. Now I'm thinking of picking up an 1894 rifle in .25-35 that has a Lyman.
This^^^^. I have a 21 on my .35 WCF. And there had been one my SRC. Wished they weren't an arm and a leg, I'd like 2 or 3 more. Someday may opt for a Providence tool copy. It's a perfect hunting sight for the 1895.
As for all the elevation on the 21, originally The 95 was offered in ctgs like 38/72, 40/72, etc. May have been useful on them. I took my 2016 bull almost 200 yds. With the 35. No additional sight adjustment. Maybe a bit of Kentucky windage involved. 😉
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Founder Ancient Order of the 1895 Winchester
"Come, shall we go and kill us venison? And yet it irks me the poor dappled fools, Being native burghers of this desert city, Should in their own confines with forked heads Have their round haunches gored."
I only own 3 Winchesters and they are all lever actions, though I'd like to have a Model 97 again. I killed my first turkey with a M97
Could always tell when the gunshow was in town! Some CAS fellow would come in Monday morning with a "new" 97 in two zip lock bags! There's just something about them fellers and screwdriver slots.
Can kinda kick myself for not grabbing one of the better ones that would come thru while I was still working. But I had like 6 Model 12's at the time. Think I'm down to 3 of them now.
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Founder Ancient Order of the 1895 Winchester
"Come, shall we go and kill us venison? And yet it irks me the poor dappled fools, Being native burghers of this desert city, Should in their own confines with forked heads Have their round haunches gored."
I found this one at a gun show, reblued and refinished, I had it cut down. I had another 97 original condition that my son used to kill his first turkey so I gave him the gun. I love them old guns....they're not makin em anymore.
"Come, shall we go and kill us venison? And yet it irks me the poor dappled fools, Being native burghers of this desert city, Should in their own confines with forked heads Have their round haunches gored."
Good luck! And I remember that 40/72 of your daughters when you posted pic a while ago! Would like to see it again! It was really nice!
Founder Ancient Order of the 1895 Winchester
"Come, shall we go and kill us venison? And yet it irks me the poor dappled fools, Being native burghers of this desert city, Should in their own confines with forked heads Have their round haunches gored."
Trump HAD the World, ", Trump saw our children, " Trump saw a way to make a brighter day so he started giving There was a choice he was making, he was saving our own lives Its true he made a brighter day for you and me. --Trump WINS 2016
"Come, shall we go and kill us venison? And yet it irks me the poor dappled fools, Being native burghers of this desert city, Should in their own confines with forked heads Have their round haunches gored."
"Come, shall we go and kill us venison? And yet it irks me the poor dappled fools, Being native burghers of this desert city, Should in their own confines with forked heads Have their round haunches gored."
Posted this in gallery, but I'll post it here too! My varmint rig. .30 US Army mfg in 1915 and Colt Army Special .32 WCF mfg in 1923. Knife is big Marbles Ideal Bowie type. Big blade! Late American production.
Founder Ancient Order of the 1895 Winchester
"Come, shall we go and kill us venison? And yet it irks me the poor dappled fools, Being native burghers of this desert city, Should in their own confines with forked heads Have their round haunches gored."
"Come, shall we go and kill us venison? And yet it irks me the poor dappled fools, Being native burghers of this desert city, Should in their own confines with forked heads Have their round haunches gored."
Trump HAD the World, ", Trump saw our children, " Trump saw a way to make a brighter day so he started giving There was a choice he was making, he was saving our own lives Its true he made a brighter day for you and me. --Trump WINS 2016
Thanks WAR. I'm very attached to the rig. Called WolfEars up in Wyoming and he made me the belt. Top notch workmanship!
Last year at Armijo Springs campfire get together. Thanks to Mudhen for this photo!!
Im really gonna miss not being there this year. 😟 It like a pilgrimage to Loudres for me!! Or Something like that!
Founder Ancient Order of the 1895 Winchester
"Come, shall we go and kill us venison? And yet it irks me the poor dappled fools, Being native burghers of this desert city, Should in their own confines with forked heads Have their round haunches gored."
If I didn't have enough levers, Id try to track that version down.
Trump HAD the World, ", Trump saw our children, " Trump saw a way to make a brighter day so he started giving There was a choice he was making, he was saving our own lives Its true he made a brighter day for you and me. --Trump WINS 2016
"Come, shall we go and kill us venison? And yet it irks me the poor dappled fools, Being native burghers of this desert city, Should in their own confines with forked heads Have their round haunches gored."
Great movie Longhunter. Some trivia if I may on the other 1895 in the movie. This one!!!
Was a mock up of a standard rifle by the late Rusty Cox, formerly of Harper Texas. Rusty was a supreme counterfeiter. And painted up that 95 to look like a gold inlaid presentation rifle. Rusty was quite knowledgeable on all things western. I bought an old Messkin saddle from Once that I used for years. I know of several other campfire members that knew Rusty too! Mebbe one will show up shortly and tell the "cat mummy" story. 😂
Rusty was also in the movie portraying the big burly Marine sergeant. Here he is storming the Bashaws palace!
I miss Rusty! He was truly one of a kind!
Founder Ancient Order of the 1895 Winchester
"Come, shall we go and kill us venison? And yet it irks me the poor dappled fools, Being native burghers of this desert city, Should in their own confines with forked heads Have their round haunches gored."
Theodore, what are you doing? Isn't that the Czar?
'Four legs good, two legs baaaad." ---------------------------------------------- "Jimmy, some of it's magic, Some of it's tragic, But I had a good life all the way." (Jimmy Buffett)
Great movie Longhunter. Some trivia if I may on the other 1895 in the movie. This one!!!
Was a mock up of a standard rifle by the late Rusty Cox, formerly of Harper Texas. Rusty was a supreme counterfeiter. And painted up that 95 to look like a gold inlaid presentation rifle. Rusty was quite knowledgeable on all things western. I bought an old Messkin saddle from Once that I used for years. I know of several other campfire members that knew Rusty too! Mebbe one will show up shortly and tell the "cat mummy" story. 😂
Rusty was also in the movie portraying the big burly Marine sergeant. Here he is storming the Bashaws palace!
I miss Rusty! He was truly one of a kind!
Guess I missed this yesterday!
Yes, I indeed knew Rusty!
There's lots of stories on him!... Like the time Charlie Schreiner fired him for shooting flies with his Colt 45 at a gathering at the YO Ranch headquarters. Rusty was an entertainer. Guitar picker, story teller. The next time the YO had a large group out, they'd call Rusty up, and un-ban him from the ranch.
Was helping Rusty "clean out" his abode on the Hondo Crouch ranch once. Simply because you couldn't move around in there... I was in some bedroom moving boxes and lifted one to find a dried up dead cat between two boxes. I mean it was as Kaywoodie said. Mummified. I called Rusty in there, and showed him the cat. He said "I wondered where that cat went!"
Always wanted an 1895 in 405 just never had one cross my radar until recently..I would have been satisfied with an original but snagged this Teddy R, 150th anniversary for a steal..Thanks to jorge for the commemorative box of loaded 405's and a well rounded care package to get me started. BTW it won't become a safe queen but will see the field this fall and winter.
You better be afraid of a ghost!!
"Woody you were baptized in prop wash"..crossfireoops
"Come, shall we go and kill us venison? And yet it irks me the poor dappled fools, Being native burghers of this desert city, Should in their own confines with forked heads Have their round haunches gored."
Woody just informed me of this great thread. First, great job Long Hunter! I have an old (1916) 1895 in 303 Brit. With it, I've taken quite a few hogs here in SE Georgia with it. I load the Woodleigh 215gr RN and it will flat shoot through any hog. I also have two other jap 95, a TR 1909 Safari Commemorative as well as a standard grade 405 I had a period correct Winchester rubber butt plate installed as well as a Lyman. Took a nice Axis with it in Texas a couple of years ago with Pugs and Hatari. The peep sight is the way to go. Easy 2" groups at 100 yards and many times even tighter than that. Great rifles, great thread!
A good principle to guide me through life: “This is all I have come to expect, standard lackluster performance. Trust nothing, believe no one and realize it will only get worse…”
It is my understanding that several (Mebbe 1/2 dozen???) 1895's were produced in the .236 Lee Navy cartridge. But possibly due to the early day smokeless powder it did not perform well in this action. Here is an interesting ad;
Founder Ancient Order of the 1895 Winchester
"Come, shall we go and kill us venison? And yet it irks me the poor dappled fools, Being native burghers of this desert city, Should in their own confines with forked heads Have their round haunches gored."
PS: If anybody knows an easier way to load these damned things, let me know!
A good principle to guide me through life: “This is all I have come to expect, standard lackluster performance. Trust nothing, believe no one and realize it will only get worse…”
Jorge, It is muscle memory, just muscle memory. Practice enough and you can load one on the run! In fact, I did just that before taking my 1895 .405 to RSA to hunt buffalo.
I went a bit overboard with practice because before I practiced loading without looking, I tried to reload while following a spooked Nilgai and messed up. We had to stop while I dug jammed .405 cartridges out with my knife, all while my PH looked on. After that it occurred to me such a fubar could be fatal if hunting DG.
Practice, practice, etc.
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Over, Nothings Over! rember when the germans Bombed Pearl harbor! Ha!
Germans???
Forget it he's rolling......
Founder Ancient Order of the 1895 Winchester
"Come, shall we go and kill us venison? And yet it irks me the poor dappled fools, Being native burghers of this desert city, Should in their own confines with forked heads Have their round haunches gored."
In the interest of keeping this thread going, once again 2016's bull.
Founder Ancient Order of the 1895 Winchester
"Come, shall we go and kill us venison? And yet it irks me the poor dappled fools, Being native burghers of this desert city, Should in their own confines with forked heads Have their round haunches gored."
"Come, shall we go and kill us venison? And yet it irks me the poor dappled fools, Being native burghers of this desert city, Should in their own confines with forked heads Have their round haunches gored."
Here's old son (aka Postoak Cowbow who lurks about the fire) who now owns my first '95 in 35 WCF, and a nice buck from last season he scored with it
Founder Ancient Order of the 1895 Winchester
"Come, shall we go and kill us venison? And yet it irks me the poor dappled fools, Being native burghers of this desert city, Should in their own confines with forked heads Have their round haunches gored."
That 95 the son has above had a refinished buttstock that displayed a LOT of proud metal around the upper and lower tang. I had a refinished original 1894 buttstock in my shop and in about 1/2 hour fitted it to this rifle. Looks a bit better. And yes we retained the original wood.
Founder Ancient Order of the 1895 Winchester
"Come, shall we go and kill us venison? And yet it irks me the poor dappled fools, Being native burghers of this desert city, Should in their own confines with forked heads Have their round haunches gored."
"Come, shall we go and kill us venison? And yet it irks me the poor dappled fools, Being native burghers of this desert city, Should in their own confines with forked heads Have their round haunches gored."
"Come, shall we go and kill us venison? And yet it irks me the poor dappled fools, Being native burghers of this desert city, Should in their own confines with forked heads Have their round haunches gored."
A good principle to guide me through life: “This is all I have come to expect, standard lackluster performance. Trust nothing, believe no one and realize it will only get worse…”
"Come, shall we go and kill us venison? And yet it irks me the poor dappled fools, Being native burghers of this desert city, Should in their own confines with forked heads Have their round haunches gored."
Will add just over the point in my hat, down in that bottom, several years ago old son made heck of a Hail Mary shot on a little Fork horn with that 95 Im aholding. It's a .30 Army.
Founder Ancient Order of the 1895 Winchester
"Come, shall we go and kill us venison? And yet it irks me the poor dappled fools, Being native burghers of this desert city, Should in their own confines with forked heads Have their round haunches gored."
Love the picture, KW! BTW, tried Larry's loading method and it worked !
A good principle to guide me through life: “This is all I have come to expect, standard lackluster performance. Trust nothing, believe no one and realize it will only get worse…”
Thanks for comments! As a postscript, everybody thinks I dress up in special clothes to hunt or something. When my shirt and trousers are from Wally World!
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Founder Ancient Order of the 1895 Winchester
"Come, shall we go and kill us venison? And yet it irks me the poor dappled fools, Being native burghers of this desert city, Should in their own confines with forked heads Have their round haunches gored."
Our friends at Williams have blasphemed at huge number of classic Winchesters over the years. I have that same scope and mount that came off a Model 71. The forearm on that rifle looks fairly unique also.
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"It's an insecure and petite man who demands all others like what he likes and dislike what he dislikes." szihn
I look so vintage in that photo now Tmitch! (I've felt vintage for years, and not in a good way!! )
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Founder Ancient Order of the 1895 Winchester
"Come, shall we go and kill us venison? And yet it irks me the poor dappled fools, Being native burghers of this desert city, Should in their own confines with forked heads Have their round haunches gored."
I look so vintage in that photo now Tmitch! (I've felt vintage for years, and not in a good way!! )
You mean OLD don't ya
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I look so vintage in that photo now Tmitch! (I've felt vintage for years, and not in a good way!! )
You mean OLD don't ya
As In dirt, Neal!
Founder Ancient Order of the 1895 Winchester
"Come, shall we go and kill us venison? And yet it irks me the poor dappled fools, Being native burghers of this desert city, Should in their own confines with forked heads Have their round haunches gored."
Yeah!!! Thats me standing on top of the pachyderm keeping a clear eye for Matabeles!
Founder Ancient Order of the 1895 Winchester
"Come, shall we go and kill us venison? And yet it irks me the poor dappled fools, Being native burghers of this desert city, Should in their own confines with forked heads Have their round haunches gored."
A good principle to guide me through life: “This is all I have come to expect, standard lackluster performance. Trust nothing, believe no one and realize it will only get worse…”
"Come, shall we go and kill us venison? And yet it irks me the poor dappled fools, Being native burghers of this desert city, Should in their own confines with forked heads Have their round haunches gored."
Love to have that one Bob! Carved by Charley Russell with a pocket knife by campfire light!!! He has always been one of my favorite artists. Along with Fredrick Remington, of course.
"Allways speak the truth and you will never have to remember what you said before..." Sam Houston Texans, "We say Grace, We Say Mam, If You Don't Like it, We Don't Give a Damn!"
After all,,,, You gotta drill at least one hole to put on a Lyman 21.
Founder Ancient Order of the 1895 Winchester
"Come, shall we go and kill us venison? And yet it irks me the poor dappled fools, Being native burghers of this desert city, Should in their own confines with forked heads Have their round haunches gored."
Steelhead, Do you mean safe queen rifles like my unfired Miroku/Winchester 1895 .405 Deluxe ?
The Deluxe was my first 1895 and was purchased from a collector because it was sooo pretty. Then, I fired an 1895 .405 of a friend and was so pleasantly surprised that I searched for and found my shooter. It is a Standard 1895 .405 has seen lots of use in load development and hunting,
My looker will stay as is until some 1895 .405 enthusiast ponies up the $$ or I pass it on to my son or grandson in my will.
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Steelhead, Do you mean safe queen rifles like my unfired Miroku/Winchester 1895 .405 Deluxe ?
The Deluxe was my first 1895 and was purchased from a collector because it was sooo pretty. Then, I fired an 1895 .405 of a friend and was so pleasantly surprised that I searched for and found my shooter. It is a Standard 1895 .405 has seen lots of use in load development and hunting,
My looker will stay as is until some 1895 .405 enthusiast ponies up the $$ or I pass it on to my son or grandson in my will.
Yeah, like that. A gun that ain't used is a stick. I'd much rather see a rifle with holes drilled in it for a scope so the older owner can still hunt with it than a masturbation piece.
Where can a guy get a shooter '95? What's a decent price on one? powdr
The one my son shot that buck with I picked up at the Kyle Tx Cabela's for $950 several years ago. Just gotta hunt for em!
Founder Ancient Order of the 1895 Winchester
"Come, shall we go and kill us venison? And yet it irks me the poor dappled fools, Being native burghers of this desert city, Should in their own confines with forked heads Have their round haunches gored."
My SRC came from Cabelas (forgot which store). Seems I have a little over 1K in it. Their pricing is all over the map, but decent guns at good prices do show up. They run 10% off sales once in awhile (5% right now) plus I buy up Cabelas gift cards off ebay for an additional 20% off.
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Desert Oakie. Circumstances differ - my 1895.405 Deluxe was purchased from a Winchester collector as an investment and for artistic appeal with approval of wife as every gun she has said "go buy it" has appreciated well and been a good investment. It is sooo pretty! :):):)
That gave me tacit approval to shop for a "shooter" and I found one at a very good price which looked NIB, but had already been fitted with a good recoil pad and Williams receiver sight AND sighted in! Included a couple boxes of 300 grain ammo too. My shooter has taken a variety of game from feral hogs to big stuff like water buff and Cape Buff. As you know , it shoots bullets from 210 grains to 400 grains equally well.
I like the .405 WCF cartridge so well, that I abandoned plans for a .45- 90 double rifle, and bought this custom made .405 Double Rifle. Again, with Nilgai taken recently down at Hondo, Texas; note my "after the kill" Texas camo:
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that is one rifle i never owned. it has been on my bucket list forever. someday soon i hope!
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I have a 3003 takedown. Been using 3006 cases. Is there any benefit to resizing 270 cases to match the proper brass length. The rifle shoots fine as is?
"Shoot low sheriff, I think he's riding a shetland!" B. Wills
Back in the '90s one in 303 came to live at my house. It was followed by a 30 US and a 30-06 takedown. The last one purchased was another 30 US by Miroku. All of them still live in the safe. One of the few rifles I really regret buying was an all there not awful condition Russian contract musket. It's the only one I've ever seen.
I am really enjoying my USRAC Color Case Take down in 30/06. It is becoming my favorite. This may border on heresy but as my eyes age I am thinking of a reflex style site. I ordered the Turnbull receiver mount for my 1949 Model 64 and asked about one for the 1895. The woman on the phone ( Stephanie) said I was the third call in a week asking for one. She stated that if there was enough interest that they would have some made. Please call Turnbull if you are interested. I have Williams receiver sights on all of my levers but am starting to see fuzz around the apertures. Thanks
Used to own a 405 takedown which was used on a bison hunt. After moving decided to sell it. Ended up missing the rifle so placed a WTB ad and found a NIB takedown 30-06 made by Miroku, This will be one rifle in my collection that will stay there until I die. Plan is to install a Williams peep sight and give it a regular walk during our long deer seasons. Now I find myself searching to replace the 405 as well.
Did Winchester ever commission the jap model 270 in a take down version?
My biggest fear is when I die my wife will sell my guns for what I told her they cost.
Again, of course. We are a very lax organization! Welcome to our happy group of miscreants. More the merrier!
Founder Ancient Order of the 1895 Winchester
"Come, shall we go and kill us venison? And yet it irks me the poor dappled fools, Being native burghers of this desert city, Should in their own confines with forked heads Have their round haunches gored."
I just picked up a new Browning Repo 1895 in 30-06. I want to put a peep on it for my old eyes. My old gun has an original Lyman 21 and I'm thinking about putting one of the new Lyman sights from buffalo Arms. What say you?....anyone have any experience with this sight on a Browning 1895?
They were produced by Providence Tool and the are well made! I removed two of them off of a customers Miroku Winchesters several years ago ( for some reason he wanted them removed and couldn't seem to do it himself. Go figure). Anyway being much of the time we Never saw the customer, I didn't get the opportunity to ask him if he wanted to sell them. Oh well.
But they are well made sights. You will have to have to drill one hole in receiver.
Founder Ancient Order of the 1895 Winchester
"Come, shall we go and kill us venison? And yet it irks me the poor dappled fools, Being native burghers of this desert city, Should in their own confines with forked heads Have their round haunches gored."
I would love to see someone make a lightweight "L" piece for the 1895. It could fit the 2 holes drilled and tapped on the side then come up and over the top of the action where a small red dot like the Burris could be mounted. Made out of aluminum it would only weigh an ounce or two and could be anodized to match the bluing.
My biggest fear is when I die my wife will sell my guns for what I told her they cost.
I just picked up a 1915 production 1895 in 35 WCF, it's pretty rough with a lot of pitting but I hope it's a shooter and the price was right! I plan on taking it cow elk hunting next year. Any advice on reloading for it would be appreciated. I'll post some pics when I get it.
I just picked up a 1915 production 1895 in 35 WCF, it's pretty rough with a lot of pitting but I hope it's a shooter and the price was right! I plan on taking it cow elk hunting next year. Any advice on reloading for it would be appreciated. I'll post some pics when I get it.
I do like that cartridge Helldiver! Old son and i both have '95's in .35 WCF. I believe i was shooting 48 grains of IMR 4320 with a 250 grain bullet (old Hornady RN). And 46 grains of IMR 4064 and a 200 grain Hornady RN. I have loaded 50 grains IMR 4320 with the 200 RN. But i think the 4064 load is better. Need to work up a good cast bullet load for it!
Jamisons make some good brass but I believe all the suppliers or currently out. Least ones I visit online. Son blamed me for buying all Midway had! Mebbe Desert Okie will chime in! He's another 35 shooter!
Founder Ancient Order of the 1895 Winchester
"Come, shall we go and kill us venison? And yet it irks me the poor dappled fools, Being native burghers of this desert city, Should in their own confines with forked heads Have their round haunches gored."
I'm really excited about it! I think you gave me advice to pursue the 35 when I was talking about a .405 last year. I'll definitely post some pics when I get it. I'm thinking about maybe making some brass out of 405 hornady if I can't find any.
I'm really excited about it! I think you gave me advice to pursue the 35 when I was talking about a .405 last year. I'll definitely post some pics when I get it. I'm thinking about maybe making some brass out of 405 hornady if I can't find any.
I remember now! Looking forward to pics!
You may have better luck using and finding the .405 brass! It's very doable.
I loaded a few 200 RN's today. Its a good all around bullet for these parts. A hawg thumper for sure!
Founder Ancient Order of the 1895 Winchester
"Come, shall we go and kill us venison? And yet it irks me the poor dappled fools, Being native burghers of this desert city, Should in their own confines with forked heads Have their round haunches gored."
Another one of my favorite characters on the show is Bob Harte who passed away from cancer. Bob truly loved the wilderness way of life and he will be missed.
Yes he does. I was thinking it was like a Williams WGRS-ML. Or something similar with a flat base. Someone here on forum Said his rifle Was originally a .30 Army that had been rebored.
Apparently someone has such an arrangement on my SRC. You could prolly cook up a lot of stuff given an ample supply of old rear sights!
Last edited by kaywoodie; 11/05/17.
Founder Ancient Order of the 1895 Winchester
"Come, shall we go and kill us venison? And yet it irks me the poor dappled fools, Being native burghers of this desert city, Should in their own confines with forked heads Have their round haunches gored."
I've got the sight installed, now I'm working on knocking down the bluing a little
I dont mind the blue. Its the dang stock finish on them Brownings that kinda gets me. Someday im stripping mine. Even gonna change out the buttplate to a hard rubber shotgun style. Might even replace the entire forearm. Get that ebony inlay thing going! Or at least redo the forearm that come with it.
Founder Ancient Order of the 1895 Winchester
"Come, shall we go and kill us venison? And yet it irks me the poor dappled fools, Being native burghers of this desert city, Should in their own confines with forked heads Have their round haunches gored."
Think I'll take one of mine out tomorrow. Prolly the winmiroku 30/06. Its ready to go.
Founder Ancient Order of the 1895 Winchester
"Come, shall we go and kill us venison? And yet it irks me the poor dappled fools, Being native burghers of this desert city, Should in their own confines with forked heads Have their round haunches gored."
Think I'll take one of mine out tomorrow. Prolly the winmiroku 30/06. Its ready to go.
Well i ended up taking the 1895, .35 WCF and a wore out 1894, 25/35. Didnt even take 95 out of case. Got a nice tasty dink last evening with the 94. But old son did manage a 3pt dink over at his place Thursday evening with his 95, .35 WCF. He says that 200 RN Hornady makes a mess of em!
Founder Ancient Order of the 1895 Winchester
"Come, shall we go and kill us venison? And yet it irks me the poor dappled fools, Being native burghers of this desert city, Should in their own confines with forked heads Have their round haunches gored."
Kay, that little .25-35 does a nice job.. I have a rebarreled Marlin.. Haven’t shot it in a while, but killed coyotes, p.dogs, jacks, antelope, whitetails, mulies, and turkey with mine.. Have lots of rifles now, and less big game hunting.. still a great problem to have.. No longer do much out of state hunting so only get 6-10 head of big game each year.. Like to hear your posts about the 95’s and other old rifles.. Keep up the good work.. Enjoy and have a great fall.
I just ordere some reloading components, Redding 35 Win dies and some hornady 405 brass. Do I just lube and run through the sizer die?
Yes. I had same set up until i bought a bunch of Jamison .35 WCF brass.
Just TAKE YOUR TIME AND DON'T GET IN A HURRY!!!! . You may screw up a case or two. But just regroup and slow down.
Crossfireoops and i corresponded on this very same subject. He was concerned and told me he sure would llike to see one more forming die in the procedure to be safe. But it worked out ok. With patience!!!!
Good luck and happy shooting. Damn! Im pumped with all this 95 talk! I was going to haul nothing but muzzleloaders to south Texas Friday. I may make it a 95 weekend instead! Rancher did say he's seen 6 nilgai hanging around the area we call the veldt on a regular basis!!! Mebbe another cow would Be good in the freezer??
Also packing the ol' model 12. Apparently lots of quail too!!!
Founder Ancient Order of the 1895 Winchester
"Come, shall we go and kill us venison? And yet it irks me the poor dappled fools, Being native burghers of this desert city, Should in their own confines with forked heads Have their round haunches gored."
Kay, that little .25-35 does a nice job.. I have a rebarreled Marlin.. Haven’t shot it in a while, but killed coyotes, p.dogs, jacks, antelope, whitetails, mulies, and turkey with mine.. Have lots of rifles now, and less big game hunting.. still a great problem to have.. No longer do much out of state hunting so only get 6-10 head of big game each year.. Like to hear your posts about the 95’s and other old rifles.. Keep up the good work.. Enjoy and have a great fall.
Thanks, WCH
My 94, 25/35 is a rifle with a bit of history. Belonged to a USDA "tick rider" down on the border for about 40 years ( beginning in 1910) and it has seen the elephant! Allegedly been in at least two gunfights. It looks the part. Got home and got into it and it appears thst the old girl is suffering from headspace issues like all these old 94 can do. Hence the FP issues. Gut enough play to cause issues. So I put her on my wall of fame in the shop! For special occassions.
Founder Ancient Order of the 1895 Winchester
"Come, shall we go and kill us venison? And yet it irks me the poor dappled fools, Being native burghers of this desert city, Should in their own confines with forked heads Have their round haunches gored."
"Come, shall we go and kill us venison? And yet it irks me the poor dappled fools, Being native burghers of this desert city, Should in their own confines with forked heads Have their round haunches gored."
"Come, shall we go and kill us venison? And yet it irks me the poor dappled fools, Being native burghers of this desert city, Should in their own confines with forked heads Have their round haunches gored."
"Come, shall we go and kill us venison? And yet it irks me the poor dappled fools, Being native burghers of this desert city, Should in their own confines with forked heads Have their round haunches gored."
"Come, shall we go and kill us venison? And yet it irks me the poor dappled fools, Being native burghers of this desert city, Should in their own confines with forked heads Have their round haunches gored."
I couldn't get my pictures to upload but here's the gun broker link with a lot of pics of my 1895. Notice the shadow of a Lyman 21 sight on it. I found an old one listed as s model 21 online and bought it but it's about a half inch shorter than the hole pattern. I didn't think they came in different sizes? I did feel like I got a good deal on the rifle, it's not real pretty but seems to be mechanicaly sound. Should have it shooting next week sometime. I'd really like to get another Lyman on it.
Yup you got the one they made for 1892/94 I bet! They also made em for model 1886.
That rifle is gonna be fun!
Founder Ancient Order of the 1895 Winchester
"Come, shall we go and kill us venison? And yet it irks me the poor dappled fools, Being native burghers of this desert city, Should in their own confines with forked heads Have their round haunches gored."
Shameless 1895 selfie from the oak mott last evening!
Founder Ancient Order of the 1895 Winchester
"Come, shall we go and kill us venison? And yet it irks me the poor dappled fools, Being native burghers of this desert city, Should in their own confines with forked heads Have their round haunches gored."
Well I just paid $375 for an original model 21 sight and I havent even shot the rifle yet, I think I might be coming down with something... Anybody happen to have a 3/8" dovetail plug for the rear sight that has some bluing wore off and pitted some? Having a hard time putting a new shiny one in there.
Then do same to that pretty dove tail filler! It will come out just fine!
Then go do some shootin'! Or get that back sight hole D&T for that 21! If it ain't already there!
Then go do some shootin'!
Founder Ancient Order of the 1895 Winchester
"Come, shall we go and kill us venison? And yet it irks me the poor dappled fools, Being native burghers of this desert city, Should in their own confines with forked heads Have their round haunches gored."
Here's a cool photo, of a cool first edition in my collection of junk, and a cool story to go with it!
The book is pretty self explanatory. One of my favorites. And according to the recent biography of Mr. Service, the gentleman in the photo holding the flatside 1895 is one Solomon Albert. He lost most of both feet to frostbite. So he shot a bear and "made" himself new feet from the late bear's feet!!! That is a form of prosthetic mocassin. Don't know the cartridge of the rifle. Either a .30 Army, 38/72, or 40/72 being a flatside. But lots of coolness all way around!
Founder Ancient Order of the 1895 Winchester
"Come, shall we go and kill us venison? And yet it irks me the poor dappled fools, Being native burghers of this desert city, Should in their own confines with forked heads Have their round haunches gored."
Loading supplies should be in the mail today and believe me I will be shooting it! Thanks a lot for the link I'm going to try the vinegar for sure. It already had a 21 on it, you can see the "shadow" in the patina. If you get a chance Kaywoodie check out that gunbroker link I posted and let me know what you think of my rifle. Couple questions.
What are my options for installing a period correct sling?
Can I get more info on the rifle other than date of manufacture from the Cody museum?
Yes, the proof will be in the pudding! Thats is, will it hit what you are shooting at! . Not a thing wrong with that rifle from the photo.
As for a sling....... a period correct one....... well I have a sling on a used Miroku I picked up. Previous owner installed. I suppose it's ok. One of them Uncle Mikes clamp on the barrel thingy. Not all that correct. I suppose if you wanted the really period correct ones you should have a swivel "eyehook"" sweated on the barrel forward of forearm. That uses swivel hooks like a Model 54 Winchester. I have a set on an old Mauser sporter. This could promise to be a real PITA to set up! And mebbe a bit pricey.
My suggestion would be to not install a sling!!!!!
Last edited by kaywoodie; 11/22/17.
Founder Ancient Order of the 1895 Winchester
"Come, shall we go and kill us venison? And yet it irks me the poor dappled fools, Being native burghers of this desert city, Should in their own confines with forked heads Have their round haunches gored."
"Come, shall we go and kill us venison? And yet it irks me the poor dappled fools, Being native burghers of this desert city, Should in their own confines with forked heads Have their round haunches gored."
"Come, shall we go and kill us venison? And yet it irks me the poor dappled fools, Being native burghers of this desert city, Should in their own confines with forked heads Have their round haunches gored."
"Come, shall we go and kill us venison? And yet it irks me the poor dappled fools, Being native burghers of this desert city, Should in their own confines with forked heads Have their round haunches gored."
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