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True, the reason my 125 gr loads are but a few grains of power pistol, even as loud and flashy as power pistol is, it's much, much quieter than near twice the amount of 296/110.


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another powder than gives the vel in the 357 without as much noise to the ears is VV N110 if you can find it.


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I didn't even know a person could shoot jacket bullets out of a revolver.


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Only in a bear area a few times a year and even then it's only an occasional black bear. But for a "just in case" situation I have a pet load that my 4 & 5/8" .357 Blackhawk seems to like. A Cast Performance 180 gr. WFNGC with 11.1 gr. of Accurate #9. That's a half grain below the Western Powder max. and chronos an average of 1159 fps from the Blackhawk and is real accurate. I sometimes carry a Glock 19 with 147 gr. hollowpoints as a woods gun but once in a while if I might encounter any bears I leave the 9mm home. If it ever came to a self defense situation with me vs. a black bear I figure the 9mm ain't gonna do it as well as that hard cast 180 gr. (unless I learn to shoot as good as Phil Shoemaker, ..LOL).

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I have a Black Bear visiting my salt lick and on the trail cam regular and last year she had two cubs. This year i haven't seen any cubs so far. I have been carry my 357 mag with Speer 158 Gold Dots just for comfort


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125 gr Hyda-shock 38 Spl +P in a 4" S&W 66 when walking around the house (little chance of running into a bear though they are around) and 180 gr Buffalo Bore bear loads in a 6.5" Blackhawk in 357 mag when checking bear baits during the season. I have yet to have an issue with a bear that a size 12 boot couldn't handle but raccoons and especially skunks have been my bane.

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I carry 180 LBT style bullets over a full charge of 2400. I've shot them into various things and they penetrate into next week.


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I carry a Ruger Security Six with 4" barrel and 180 LBT style bullets over a full charge of 2400. I've shot them into various things and they penetrate into next week.


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Here she is, nice Black Female

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I just picked up a drilled and pinned Model 66 that was a Georgia State Patrol piece in nearly pristine shape. It likes 180 hardcast Double Tap and I'm glad it does!

If a mama bear was known to be in the area, I'd suffer carrying the heavier 5.5" Redhawk in 45 Colt using a 335 or 360 hardcast wide flat nose.


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I don't tend to overthink it. Whatever I happen to have in the console and glovebox and under the seat of the truck seems to work okay.


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Pretty much always the 158 gr Gold Dot factory load for everything. But I've pretty much stopped carrying a revolver at all, even in the sticks.


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when my wife and I hike during the spring I carry a 2.5 inch barreled model 60 with 180 grain remington SJHP's, moving away from that towards a G27 and heavy bullets.


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158 grain XTP's, loaded in either the special with 4.4grn W231, or mag cases with 10grn Bluedot.

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S&W M60, 3 inch with 158 gr Federal JSP

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One load for everything that needs killed out of my 6" 686... 14 grains of 2400 pushing a 125 grain Barnes almost 1700 FPS. That makes it pretty simple.

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16 grains h110 158 grain xtp
federal mag primer star line case

It's over book max and goes 1280 from a 4 inch pipe however the cases fall out of the gun quite readily.

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Originally Posted by 79inpa
16 grains h110 158 grain xtp
federal mag primer star line case

It's over book max and goes 1280 from a 4 inch pipe however the cases fall out of the gun quite readily.


I use 16.6 gr with no problem with the 158 gr bullet


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Originally Posted by bea175
Originally Posted by 79inpa
16 grains h110 158 grain xtp
federal mag primer star line case

It's over book max and goes 1280 from a 4 inch pipe however the cases fall out of the gun quite readily.


I use 16.6 gr with no problem with the 158 gr bullet



16.5grs with the 158 XTP for me


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Originally Posted by Steelhead
I didn't even know a person could shoot jacket bullets out of a revolver.



If it's a double action I'll shoot jackets, only have two, a Colt Trooper 357 and a S&W model 1955 n frame 45 ACP, all single actions get cast lead.


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