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Congrats on getting the rifle exactly the way you wanted. I think you did really well.
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Most here think he got a great rifle and I agree. They also think he bought it at a great price, while I think he bought it at a fair price. I wish him well with it.
i have rifle decision delima this year. The new Yar .30-06? The new BobinNh .270W campfire rifle that I was lucky to win? The .308W will have to stay in the safe. (Unless it comes down to the end and I need some juju.) The Kimber Montana .300Savage? Best Pa Deer rifle of the bunch. Then there is the scary accurate Bartlain barrel .308W-imagine that😂-and the Classic Sporter .30-06. There is a Standard Grade 17xxx sitting in the wings also. .30-06. Again imagine that.😂
The BobinNH .270W will bat lead-off, the like new Yar .30-06 second. But if it comes down to last bats it will be the old .308W😉
BTW, a phone number has gone silent. It used to be answered by a guy who had Model 70 stuff that would drop your jaw. He had it all and was a good man. This place gave him the giggles. 😏
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Elk Slayer,
If you bought the rifle at that price- you did good.
It looks like a sligjtly used ,unaltered gun in a great ( maybe the best) caliber. You paid the cost of a current NIB Portugese made m70 FTW and in terms of history and long term value- got a LOT more rifle.
I just bought a '62 vintage m70 almost identical to that one a few months ago for the same price. Mine is a few hundred guns apart from that one in terms of serial number had a bit more metal finish but the orgional owner (who was from California) mounted an early Jap "Mayflower" Scope in Buehler mounts and installed a period Mershon ventlated pad to his 14"+ length if pull. The gun looked like it spent most of its life in a closet:)
It has now been liberated and will be used this season to terrorize bull Elk in the heavily timbered canyons of Colorado.
Right now, I have a mint Weaver K4 60B on the gun in Weaver rings( VERY 1962! ) but within 30 days, it will have a Leupold VX3 in DD mounts being installed along with a thin solid old English pad to my LOP.
Got a box of 180g Nosler Partitions to use for working up a good Elk load. So far, it puts 3 shots of cheap Federal blue box 180g Soft points into 1.5" at 100 yards on demand.
Actually, it would be pretty darned effective on Elk as it is without any further tweeks.. Such are pre 64 Midel 70s- they simply work..
Sounds like you did good too on obtaining a new toy. Have fun dialing it in, and good luck this year chasing the bulls. I hope this one I bought spits out the 150 gr. Partitions, I want to try, into a close grouping, so I don't have to spend time on adjusting stock or changing stocks to get to shoot good. I really want to hunt it factory stock and open sighted if it will shoot good.
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That's awesome man. I am very happy the rifle went to that gut. Sounds like it was "meant to be".... Great deal too. Regardless of what batue said... .. I wouldn't take that personal though. His feeling are hurt because I was picking on his favorite 308 win. Even though he knows I'm right about the 30-06 fwt being better... Thanks. I feel it was "meant to be" being nobody else bid on it.
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I would have bought it at that price. I hope you find one "at that price".
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Congrats on getting the rifle exactly the way you wanted. I think you did really well. Thanks.
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Most here think he got a great rifle and I agree. They also think he bought it at a great price, while I think he bought it at a fair price. I wish him well with it. Sometimes there is more to a gun than just the price when a person really wants a certain gun that is for sale.
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As mentioned, IMO the price was fair. If you received some other form of perceived intrinsic value, that's great.
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I'd have bought it for that price in a heartbeat even when converted to the Northern Peso resulting in $957 CDN....about the going price for one like that. I sold a '59 just like that about two years ago for $1100 CDN....should have kept it....:-(
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I think it looks very nice. It is a buyers market right now. Always nervous times until we hit " the bottom". I have recently bought two model 70 pre 64 s here on the fire. Have not shot them yet. I am a husquvarna Mauser kind of guy, looking foreword to the regular model 70. I have enjoyed the " improved" model 70 s aka the model 88 s for over a decade. Thought it was time to expand my Winchester experience.
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As Bob frequently mentioned us Model 70 guys are fading into the past. Outside of prime collectibles, the Model 70 may be a buyers market for some time. Seen the same happen with cars.
Most of the younger crowd will buy a Tikea and never even consider a Model 70.
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As Bob frequently mentioned us Model 70 guys are fading into the past. Outside of prime collectibles, the Model 70 may be a buyers market for some time. Seen the same happen with cars.
Most of the younger crowd will buy a Tikea and never even consider a Model 70. I think you are spot on, and I think we are seeing this reflected in the soft market for pre 64s. Have seen some really nice shooter grade guns go fairly inexpensively in the last couple of months - a couple of '06 featherweights have sold for under $600 on gunbroker...
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I hope it is true that the market is softening a bit, that would make it easier to put a couple more away! I have not noticed it in Canada yet though our prices are typically a bit less than US when you figure in the exchange. I do know that finding a decent 270 fwt takes some real patience and luck. For whatever reason 308 fwts are not that tough to find.
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Real nice (90%+), aluminum plate, '55, 270 Fwt. for $1,100.00 at the Allentown show last weekend....
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Just last week I saw a very nice unmolested standard 06 I think it was a 54' went for $705 on gb. I have kind of felt like the pre 64 market on especially 30 06's softening up.
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Didnt yall hear, 30-06s are obsolete? Sheesh.
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Real nice (90%+), aluminum plate, '55, 270 Fwt. for $1,100.00 at the Allentown show last weekend.... I wouldn't sell mine for that. Been thinking of thinning the herd somewhat but with the market down I'll hold on to them after all they don't eat anything:)
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The market hasn't been down for a good while and setting there bearly holding value they most definitely have eaten.Then again it is not rare to hold onto a stock too long. If you look at Model 70's purely as an investment, then like stocks you can hold on too long.
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I'm just hoping the current market allows me to find a decent honest 30-06 '50's FWT... I keep looking but I'm not yet seeing anything but top dollar. I'd like a .270 as well but that's probably wishful thinking.
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I'd agree the buyer did pretty well. Yes the market has gotten a bit soft lately, but they will always be the best, so buy them if you find them. My 3 kids are all set with Pre 64 M70's...but someday there may be grandkids....
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