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I am calling this �Project Renegade� because it is a Thompson Center Arms Renegade <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Subject rifle is 50 caliber and pretty messed up as it was in a house fire. So any way, here is the first look and disassembly for working on restoring her.

Not sure about the stock, it is pretty charred right in the middle.


Here are some pictures after disassembly:


The lock was fortunately away from the flames and heat:

You should be able to find anything you need on eBay. Do you think the barrel is OK? Do your springs still work?

looks like you need a new trigger a new stock a new barrel and well looks like you need to just throw it away and buy a new one.. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />

All the springs are still fine even the one under the sight and most of the damage to metal is from the water they put the fire out with that tells me it really didn't get that hot. I am going to sand on the stock tomorrow and see how deep the charring goes. The barrel straight edges just fine the bore is fine, no pitting and cleaned up easily.

cool, looks much worse than it must be.

Well, a bunch of it is cleaned up ready to "Gun-Kote" the stock looks like it will be toast however, I will sand on it a bit more but hold out little hope. I think I need to find either a Hawken stock or a synthetic Renegade one.

A Hawken stock may not work. You'll need the one with a 1" barrel channel.

I will have to look and see what is out there. I also could relieve a 15/16th channel easy enough.

Here's your stock:

http://cgi.ebay.com/THOMPSON-CENTER-RENE...1QQcmdZViewItem

Thanks. I am the current high bidder!

Have you considered whether the steel may have been annealed? It would be easy enough to have a machinist check it. I bet T/C would do this as well. I would consider it a good precaution in light of the internet "talk" regarding soft spanish muzzy barrels blowing.

Other than that it looks like a nice winter project. Have fun.

Could not have gotten that hot, the wood was just charred on the surface and the damage to the metal is from the water, not the heat. Thanks for the concer none the less, I do appreciate it.

This is a T/C, the barrel isn't made in Spain thank goodness.

even if it was i would be concerned most all that�s a lot of FOOO foo spread by those whose hand are always in their pockets counting their money .

Many folks purposely made their barrels soft , hacker martin even stated that he preferred his target barrels to be so soft the flats could be drawn with a knife .
If you read his comments in fox fire you will find that he would put the barrels in a bed of coals just for that reason .

I read his comments about 30 years ago. I have no faith in any Spanish made barrel.

well thats most certainly your choice .
just don�t propagate it unless you can give something to the statement past your Buy American made. Of which i agree with .
However I also understand that when I do concerning barrels , im buying an item that is not held to any standard past that of the manufacture ..
Ever wonder why the barrels we buy today are often not drilled and tapped for liner or drum ??
You might want to read the fine print .
Just a thought

Myself ,, I have no problem with European barrels , be those Italian , Spanish or English .
As to how long ago you read Hackers statements ,, well hummmmm maybe you should read them again . Would do you good now that your grown up and can understand it LMAO.
ohhh one last thing next time you by a barrel , you might want to ask if the stock that barrel was made from was imported or made here in the states ??
also somethimng to think about when you concider the Made in the USA stamp LOL

If a manuf. isn't willing to proof their barrels, I'm not willing to go to the ER when they hand grenade. I'll stick with American made products if there's any way possible.

who do you know that does not proof their barrels ?
If your thinking European barrels , your wrong. They have to pass proof twice . 1st the manufactures proof same as American barrels. then they have to pass export proof through an independent proofing house .

That proof is what you see stamped on many barrels. Which by the way is not the actual proof but the proofing house test pressures , set forth by that individual government .
Is that proof obscenely low ? Ohm ya . But understand its an old law . a formality for export that goes back to the early to mid 1700 in their law .
But at least that barrel has been looked at twice .

We have no such writing here . But we have liabilities . So barrel makers do things like requiring you to install the breech plug or drill and tap for liner or drum .
Our makers also test much the same way but for one thing , the don�t test every barrel . We do whats called batch testing .so one barrel out of say 100 gets looked at . This is why you see garbage like heli coils being installed in bolsters to replace poor threads . Or as with a barrel I recently received with the makers stamp up side down all coming from a very well know barrel maker here in the US .


Im with you in the Buy USA idea . However that IMO should be because we make a batter all around product . Sadly that�s not always the case .

One fella who frequents this forum and has in the past had a lot to say about Spanish barrels likes to taunt numbers and pressures that American manufactures batch test to .
Those are some good numbers but at the same time who is checking those numbers ?
The manufacture . They can tell you what ever they want doesn�t mean they are doing it .or that they are anymore safe then any other barrel .
but then we here have a history of trusting companies words don�t we,, Philip Morris , Enron,
To lesser degree�s Ford , Chevy ��.

So you may want to remember that that barrel on your custom rifle may never have been tested at all , to any standard . Unless you were lucky enough to get that 1 in 100 barrel .

Now why are americian barrels better ?
Simple our finish of the bores , cutting of the rifling is much better IMO then those barrels quickly cut for lower end production guns be that muzzleloader or center fire .

T Lee, you can put a TC stock on if you want of course, but I think this is a great opportunity to buy a curly maple blank and use the charred stock for a pattern.

But I love to spend other people's money so don't listen to me too hard.

T;

If you tire of that project, or she needs a new home, let me know. What caliber?