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I always liked the 40 cal stuff from win and sharps...

Regarding the .375 Winchester.

If anyone has experience with the 235g Speer I'd like to hear about it, either with respect to loading or on-game performance. The bullet was designed for the .375 H&H but i'm curious how it expands at .375 Win impact velocities. I'm thinking about giving it a try, although I already know some special loading procedures are necessary concerning COL and crimping.

TIA

The triple four is handicapped by the microgroove barrel in some cases. Microgrooves are known to not handle longer bullets.
However I have read the 444 action in the Marlin is " stronger " than the 1895 45/70? I own both. If I was on a budget I would get the 45/70 because you will most likely have a cowboy shooting buddy the readily casts bullets in that caliber. U can go up and down the Ballistic scale and brass will always be around. Plus most will have a traditional rifeling.

There are also Winchester Lever 45/70 s the 1886?

The Ruger number one has its own reloading page / parameters. Much more ( insert correct term). Hint hint more powder can get added to the load.

There is a wonderful book called 40 years with the 45/70 author slips my mind..........huh? Go ahead trolls this lines 4 U.

Any ways the book has a lot of letters written by Elmer Keith, Jack O Conner P.O. Ackley among others.

45-70....although I did just get my son a Henry All Weather 44mag, like mine shown here in 45-70. Havent seen a Deer walk away from a 44mag yet.

I opted for a circa '77 Marlin 44 a friend got for me. I'm a little tired of boomers and where I'd hunt would be in the trees so a good soft point at ~ 1600 fps will be plenty antidote for any whitetail that I see.

The one I have will hit gallon milk jugs with a Burris Red Dot sight at 200 unless I lose my glasses. Any buck beyond 150, C'est le vie.

Take a look at Barnes load data for the 45-70 with the 250gr TSX. Smoking fast for a 45-70. Just don't mix up the load information. The ruger load is too hot for the Marlin action. You'd also need a 24" tube to reach those velocities. Something like the Marlin XLR or similar.

http://barnesbullets.com/files/2014/11/45-70RugerNo1.pdf
http://barnesbullets.com/files/2014/11/45-70Marlin1895Web.pdf

He might want to look at Pedersoli 444. It's based on the Win 71 action I believe and it comes with a scout scope mount. I think it's called a boar buster or hog hunter or something like that.

The .444 and .45-70 don't fit that criteria either.

Both of which are way overkill for Iowa deer anyway

I have a Winchester Model 92 in .45 Long Colt that has proven to be a reliable deer tree stand gun.


These loads are also safe in all modern Model 1892 lever guns as well as all Winchester & Marlin 1894's

Buffalo Bore Hunting Ammo
Grain Weight - - - - -300 Grains
Muzzle Velocity - - -1200 Feet Per Second
Muzzle Energy - - - -959 Foot Pounds
Bullet Style - - - - - - Jacketed Flat Point

The 444 and 45-70 are specifically mentioned as allowed. The other criteria are for cartridges not specifically listed. As I said: no logic to it but that is how the law reads.

Yup, same with the .375 Win (allowed) and the .38-55 (not allowed). Essentially the same cartridge except the .38-55 has a slightly (0.065") longer case and lower SAAMI pressures.

.38-55 cases drop into my .375 chamber just fine and I've worked up loads with them at higher pressure than the .38-55 spec. Gained over 100fps. Gave up on the project because I have hundreds of .375 cases and didn't want to have to keep track loads using both types of case.

I have used my 444 Marlin in past years during the late antlerless season.

265gr Hornady FP's on top of a moderate charge of 4198 at around 2200fps. Great performance on the couple of deer and one bear I've put to rest with it.

Ole whitey don't take all that much killing to justify the high dollar bullets, the heavies, and the extreme velocities. My opinion anyway, ymmv.

It's funny, I can poke a deer with a 357 out of a hand gun, but not from a long gun. At least the way I read the law.

muleshoe,
The 357 Mag is just fine in a rifle too. Any cartridge legal in a handgun is legal in a rifle too and the 357 is on the allowed list.

Okay, after re-reading I see it. Thought I saw 375 instead of 357. The dyslexia must have kicked in a bit.

Yup, to different critters.

My Marlin 375 (.375 Win) gets 2396fps with a 200g Sierra, 2230fps with the now obsolete Hornady 220g and 2219fps with the Les Volmer 220g.

Headed to the range Saturday with my hunting partner of the last 19 years. With a little luck I'll get to build some test loads with the Speer 235g before we go. Using these will turn my levergun into a two-shooter (one in the mag and one in the chamber) but at least they are available.