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NY is one of the most f'ed up places in the US. I knew that 40 years ago when I got my ass out of there.

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Thats what happens when you bring a gun into a foreign country. I left that filth hole over 30 years ago and never looked back.

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I don't like it (in this situation) but each local jurisdiction (city, county, state) has the right to make it's own laws. It is incumbent on all to know the law when you enter a state. Or, maybe some here universally favor Federal laws that govern all in the entire nation.

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Originally Posted by djs
I don't like it (in this situation) but each local jurisdiction (city, county, state) has the right to make it's own laws. It is incumbent on all to know the law when you enter a state. Or, maybe some here universally favor Federal laws that govern all in the entire nation.



That's just not true.

The rights within the constitution trump any state or local laws.

That's why they call them "rights".


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It's pretty irritating when Leftists talk about fairness of local laws or "compassion" in their enforcement. That's consistent with their ideology, which is at its core, stupid.

When Conservatives do it, however, I find it reprehensible.

Who in this country doesn't know now to bring guns or ammo into Illinois or New York? You have to be hopelessly ignorant not to know they're totalitarian states whose gun laws bear no resemblance to anything in "fly over country".

What needs to be done is not sensational peices on Fox News making mamsy-pamsy "arguments" like these, but a formal law suit on Constitutional grounds. That'll settle this.

Sorry but if you bring a gun there and get "mistreated" that's on you. Ignorance of the law isn not an acceptable excuse for Leftists nor for Conservatives.

Stay the heck away from New York & Illinois if you care about yer freedoms and sure as heck don't give them money if you have to be there!!

As for national gun laws... classic DJS suggestion, but consider this... the idiots who made a law against an unloaded mag are the ones who'd have a seat at the table discussing "common sense gun laws" at the Federal level should that conversation take place.

Not just no; HELL NO!

Ps- I find it rather disturbing how the right has, since this last election cycle, begun more & more to use the "fairness" argument which heretofore had mostly been Leftist turf. I'd love to see us leave that non-sense behind and keep things about the law and proper observance/execution thereof...

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The magazine nonsense first threw me but then realized it must have been "high capacity" i.e. >10 rounds.


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No gun, No bullets, and magazine in locked case is just senseless.

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Originally Posted by djs
I don't like it (in this situation) but each local jurisdiction (city, county, state) has the right to make it's own laws. It is incumbent on all to know the law when you enter a state. Or, maybe some here universally favor Federal laws that govern all in the entire nation.


So we can ban homosexuals via city ordinance?




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I have a CCW for NY,but it's not valid in the 5 bouroughs of NYC.

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If cities and states must recognize gay marriages from other states, recognize those marriage licenses, then why don't they have to recognize my CCW?



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Originally Posted by WyColoCowboy
If cities and states must recognize gay marriages from other states, recognize those marriage licenses, then why don't they have to recognize my CCW?



The same reason you have to have a CCW.

It's all bullshat.

We've let them get away with unconstitutional crap for too long.

Give 'em and inch and they'll take the country.


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Originally Posted by rockinbbar

The same reason you have to have a CCW.

It's all bullshat.

We've let them get away with unconstitutional crap for too long.

Give 'em and inch and they'll take the country.


The only thing I can add to that is that I have nothing to add to that.


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Originally Posted by IMR4350
Thats what happens when you bring a gun into a foreign country. I left that filth hole over 30 years ago and never looked back.

Over fifteen years for me.

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Originally Posted by rockinbbar
Originally Posted by djs
I don't like it (in this situation) but each local jurisdiction (city, county, state) has the right to make it's own laws. It is incumbent on all to know the law when you enter a state. Or, maybe some here universally favor Federal laws that govern all in the entire nation.



That's just not true.

The rights within the constitution trump any state or local laws.

That's why they call them "rights".

Yep. Fourteenth Amendment incorporates to the states the rights protected by the US Constitution.

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Originally Posted by deflave
Originally Posted by djs
I don't like it (in this situation) but each local jurisdiction (city, county, state) has the right to make it's own laws. It is incumbent on all to know the law when you enter a state. Or, maybe some here universally favor Federal laws that govern all in the entire nation.


So we can ban homosexuals via city ordinance?




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Originally Posted by WyColoCowboy
If cities and states must recognize gay marriages from other states, recognize those marriage licenses, then why don't they have to recognize my CCW?

Right. It's the double standard that's the issue.

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Originally Posted by djs
I don't like it (in this situation) but each local jurisdiction (city, county, state) has the right to make it's own laws. It is incumbent on all to know the law when you enter a state. Or, maybe some here universally favor Federal laws that govern all in the entire nation.


I do, it's called the second amendment.

Until the Feds start enforcing it a person has no logical recourse other than to either avoid New York, which is what I prefer to do, or abide by their unconstitutional laws.

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Originally Posted by deflave
Originally Posted by djs
I don't like it (in this situation) but each local jurisdiction (city, county, state) has the right to make it's own laws. It is incumbent on all to know the law when you enter a state. Or, maybe some here universally favor Federal laws that govern all in the entire nation.


So we can ban homosexuals via city ordinance?




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How about free speech, or freedom of the press, can they make their own laws per city, county, and state?
The right to keep and bare arms is now and long since become a privilege.

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Originally Posted by rong
I have a CCW for NY,but it's not valid in the 5 bouroughs of NYC.

Same with me..... But that's because there is no second amendment in NYC.... Except for a few of the elite. That toilet should be a separate country or at least a separate state. Any CCW from anywhere else is nothing but a one-way trip to jail. Think you have rights?..... Sure you do; but they only apply to you when you're in America and NYC doesn't quite qualify.

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