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One thing I've noticed is there are almost never any diesels for sale used on the car lots. Those that are w/ the diesel engine go for really high prices. E

I have a 2016 Ram 3500 CC SB 4X4 6.7...its a tradesman, but with every option you can throw in that trim.. (Auto 4x4, backup camera, uconnect 5.0, ect.) and it is without a doubt the best pickup I have ever owned. I only have 16k miles so not a huge sample size, but with Michelin tires, it rides way better than expected on the freeway, gets great fuel mileage for a big truck, and tows my 8k travel trailer likes its not even back there. Other than 1 oil/fuel filter change and tire rotations - no service needed so far. The other thing I like that is as long as I take care of this truck, when my loan is paid off in 5 years, it should still have a ridiculous resale value - even at 125-150k miles.

Other day I saw the same truck but a 2012 with 121,000 miles listed for 31k.

Now in full disclosure I am a ram fan and in order of trucks I always would go 1. Ram 2. Chevy/GM 3. Toyota 4. Ford.

Hiaring8

What is the definition of, "great fuel mileage for a truck"

If I don't drive crazy, I have gotten up to 22-23 on highway trips and usually around 17-18 in town. For a 1 ton deisel pickup, I would say thats pretty good for me.

After driving Fords and Chevys for years, I bought my first Dodge in 05 (04 model year). Traded it a year later for an 06 only to go from a short box to long box. Still driving the 06 (2500 Bighorn/Cummins) - 125k now and have been very happy with it. If I had to replace it tomorrow, I'd get another Dodge.

Some guys get good ones, and some get bad ones. Same with anything, I reckon.

I just traded off my 2014 3500 4x4.

It had 27k miles on it.

2 transmissions, and this summer, I started having emissions issues the service dept. couldn't or wouldn't fix. In the shop more than out.

Just had had enough. I enjoy my new F350 Superduty.


My wife has a 2015 2500 4x4 diesel. Great truck. No issues. Gets over 22mpg in mixed driving.

If you really want a full sized pickup with a manual transmission, you'll drive a Dodge diesel, either the 2500 or 3500. It's the only full sized pickup available in the US now with a manual. They're 6 speeds starting in '07 along with the 6.7 engine.

If you have a hard time getting going up a hill with a manual, Cummins has solved it. They come with what's called a Zero Throttle Launch (ZTL). You hold down the brake and start to let up on the clutch. As the clutch starts to grab, back off on the brake. Don't touch the throttle. As the engine starts to stall, the computer takes over and gives it just enough throttle to get you moving. It will accelerate enough to get you moving and pull you along until you push the throttle. which ends the ZTL action. It's great when you're pulling a trailer and have to stop on a hill. There's no more of that trying to keep your right heel on the brake while your toe pushes the throttle pedal. With just a little practice, you'll be starting on hills as easy as you do on the flat.

Do they still derate the HP and TQ with the manual transmissions?

2017 6.7 cummins hp/torque specs:

• 350 hp @ 2,800 rpm • 660 lb-ft @ 1,500 rpm (manual trans)
• 370 hp @ 2,800 rpm • 800 lb-ft @ 1,700 rpm (68RFE trans)
• 385 hp @ 2,800 rpm • 900 lb-ft @1,700 rpm (Aisin AS69RC trans, 3500 only)

" Zero Throttle Launch (ZTL)" LMAO, MY 1941 Olds has it. It is called a "Hill Holder".

Nothing now under the sun.

Having three Dodges, i cannot imagine why anyone would chose a manual transmission anymore.

Waiting for a double clutch paddle shifter to appear .... perhaps in the NEW 2018 models (If the Eities don't sell MOPAR to China first !)

It's all computerized these days. With the Cummins version, you don't need the throttle at all. It does it all for you no matter how much weight's in your trailer.

I am not brand loyal at all. I have owned or drawn for regular use from the motor pool, just about every make compact and full size P/U made in the last 10 years. I drive a lot, tow a lot, but not heavy loads and haul stuff frequently. When I entered into the market last February, I looked at all makes. I was looking for a pretty basic truck. I went with a Dodge Tradesman V-6 with a few options. It was 5K cheaper than the competing GM and Ford. Dodge offers a quieter ride and a smoother ride. The 8 speed tranny works great, even when towing 3500 pounds. At this point the only negative is that the fit of interior parts is not well executed in places. I have yet to want for more power and the highway fuel economy is better than my 4 cylinder Tacoma if I keep it close to 70 MPH. From 65 to 70 it drops off significantly and from 70 to 75 it does as well. The truck market is so competitive and so important to manufacturers that they have all upped their game and are cranking out good products.

Larry you crazy old bastard..

I have a 2004 with 164,000 miles. I've had the front end rebuilt,but that's all.

My 01' Cummins only has 100K on it but HARD miles.

Just Put the Luke's Links on all the "tie rod" ends, 5 in total.

- 2 tie rods
- connecting tie rod
- pitman arm
- track bar

Unlike OEM ends, Luke's are adjustable to take up for wear and set pressure on ball in end.

Better steering that it had when new.

Also have "Solid Steel" brand steering box support to avoid it flexing.

All are DYI jobs saving 1000s over have shop do it.

Luke's also fit pre 99 Fords to fix the same issues.

Sure a H--- cannot afford a new truck at $80K !

you live in the burgh so expect that thing to rot off the frame in about 6-7 years. i know from experience. there's a reason why they're the cheapest truck.

Zero throttle launch, my ass. Computer controlled, bullshitt.
With the exception of the 2 cycle Detroits, any inline 6 cylinder
diesel has the ability to pull out without throttle.
It's called a governor.

Dodge tours the ability, because the V8 competition does not have as
much torque off idle and cannot pull as hard without throttle.

Trying to explain that to most is impossible. So, they made up a name for it.

Hill holder is different, it holds the brakes while the left foot releases the clutch,
and the right goes to and applies throttle.

Three dodges here
2005 2500 315k
2011 4500 195k
2017 3500 6k

All with manuals.

Have a 2016 6.7diesel. Has 30k miles on it. No problems, but I can't stand the throttle delay with the diesel. It's damn scary at times, if you need to accelerate and punch it, it just hesitates for a second or two or three. Talked to Dodge engineers and they agreed it existed and said "just have to learn to drive with it." This is the second Ram diesel I've owned, and 6th Ram truck since 1996. My wife is on her second 1500 Hemi and they are super comfortable and fast.

Two old one's only, so no input on the OP's original question. I've found the 99 4x4 Cummins 5 spd to give good trouble free service except for steering and brake maintenance. The 93 only has 77K miles and one throttle position sensor quit. I hate auto transmissions. If I couldn't get a new truck with a manual transmission I'd get a used truck.