24hourcampfire.com
24hourcampfire.com
-->
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Hop To
Page 4 of 4 1 2 3 4
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 21,810
D
djs Offline
Campfire Ranger
Offline
Campfire Ranger
D
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 21,810
12 are being punished with a career ending administrative punishment.


Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 19,495
G
g5m Offline
Campfire Ranger
Offline
Campfire Ranger
G
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 19,495
Originally Posted by jorgeI
"Although part of the crew punished might be the lookouts, it's more than possible that they dutifully informed the watch officer of the ship and that officer either hesitated to act"

That "should" all be recorded in the Ship's Log.


As a an author friend says, "The log is a good place to start". Accenting the "should" and the "start".


Retired cat herder.


Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 21,810
D
djs Offline
Campfire Ranger
Offline
Campfire Ranger
D
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 21,810
Originally Posted by jorgeI
There is an EXCELLENT article in Proceedings, written by a Navy Captain who commanded three cruisers and sailed those seas. Look for the operative words or phrases: "bridge clilmate", CO's standing orders, burden of command, etc.

Fitzgerald


Excellent and well written explanation of command structure and environment at sea. A ship's captain can not be on the bridge 24/7 and needs to sleep, eat and unwind. A tremendous level of responsibility is placed in the hands of young and junior people; this is what makes them great leaders - the responsibility and discipline. Unfortunately a single screw-up damages careers and endangers lives.

Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 42,620
Campfire 'Bwana
Online Content
Campfire 'Bwana
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 42,620
Yes but it is the Commanding Officer who in his judgment, grants the CDO Underway status to his subordinates. That is why it doesn't matter if he's in the crapper giving birth to a democrat, the fault will always lie with the CO>


A good principle to guide me through life: “This is all I have come to expect, standard lackluster performance. Trust nothing, believe no one and realize it will only get worse…”
Joined: Jun 2009
Posts: 344
B
Campfire Member
Offline
Campfire Member
B
Joined: Jun 2009
Posts: 344
I wonder if any of those responsible on the Kennedy attained their rank with PC, affirmative action promotions?

IC B2

Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 12,664
D
Campfire Outfitter
Offline
Campfire Outfitter
D
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 12,664
Originally Posted by jorgeI
Yes but it is the Commanding Officer who in his judgment, grants the CDO Underway status to his subordinates. That is why it doesn't matter if he's in the crapper giving birth to a democrat, the fault will always lie with the CO>


Aircraft commanders and ship captains are held responsible for everything under their command period. Too bad politicians aren't held to such a standard.


The Karma bus always has an empty seat when it comes around.- High Brass

There's battle lines being drawn
Nobody's right if everybody's wrong
Page 4 of 4 1 2 3 4

Moderated by  RickBin 

Link Copied to Clipboard
AX24

530 members (007FJ, 01Foreman400, 10ring1, 1234, 10gaugeman, 10gaugemag, 65 invisible), 2,402 guests, and 1,378 robots.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Forum Statistics
Forums81
Topics1,192,162
Posts18,484,348
Members73,966
Most Online11,491
Jul 7th, 2023


 


Fish & Game Departments | Solunar Tables | Mission Statement | Privacy Policy | Contact Us | DMCA
Hunting | Fishing | Camping | Backpacking | Reloading | Campfire Forums | Gear Shop
Copyright © 2000-2024 24hourcampfire.com, Inc. All Rights Reserved.



Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.5
(Release build 20201027)
Responsive Width:

PHP: 7.3.33 Page Time: 0.171s Queries: 27 (0.009s) Memory: 0.8265 MB (Peak: 0.8838 MB) Data Comp: Zlib Server Time: 2024-05-02 16:54:17 UTC
Valid HTML 5 and Valid CSS