Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Handguns Glock releases photos of their MHS submission

The military doesn't carry a round in the chamber per regulations.

This guy is just a hater.

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2017/08/08/p320-failed-without-even-dropping-no-plans-test/

True, but the drop is negligence, but the maker has deeper pockets.

Depends on where you are and what job you have. I carried unchambered and on safe in Afghanistan. SOP (USAF) on my African deployment last year was to carry chambered and red.

I would like to see a copy of the actual regulation. I don't believe I've ever seen anything truly in writing on the subject. During the years of the M9 W. Cary I have met people who were instructed to carry it chambered, unchambered, safety, on safety off.

If those regulations are going to remain the same or change with the 320 that remains to be seen...too early to know.

According to a marine, an Army Ranger and our own MackaySagebrush they do not carry with a round in the chamber.

There are no regulations that govern whether a pistol is carried with a round chambered or not. Unit SOP, command guidance, local situation and individual common sense dictate. Anyone who believes that a service-level regulation will say otherwise is deluded.

I think it depends on who owns the base. I worked for an Army garrison in Afghanistan and their policy was no round chambered. We had an adjacent MARSOC compound and those guys always had a round chambered (Glock 19 or 1911 cocked and locked). I was on an Air Force compound in North Africa and everyone carried with a round in the chamber and safety off. Seems like the Army frowns upon chambered rounds unless actually engaged.

Again, local policy, not regulation. "Garrison" (by which I assume you mean "FOB") is different from "outside the wire".

It was a FOB, but the emphasis on garrison was intentional. The base had an Air Force site and O6 commander and a separate Army O6 garrison commander. I was unfortunate and assigned to the garrison. I'm not positive, but I believe the AF carried with chambered rounds. I know that my team and I had rounds chambered when we made our regular visits to the Afghan Air Force compound.

They get those 320s, they better not even have a mag in it. Sarcasm. LOL

the amazing thing is how they passed all the tests, were selected largely due to price it seems, discharged on a few civilians striking one in the leg, SIG issued a statement that the guns were safe, then after continued publicity regards drop firing, issues a statement about a trigger fix. beta testing done by the customer.

And from what I've read, they actually completed all the tests on the full size pistols. Of course we haven't seen the actual data of what specifically was done in those tests.

What are you taking about? The above, combined with your statement that guns shouldn't be dropped therefor a pistol that fires when dropped is ok...? Guns get dropped when used. Doesn't make it "ok", but the baddest gunslinger in earth will eventually drop a gun if pushed hard enough.


I've been in the military since 2002, and have never not carried chambered. The Army is retarded in that they think the decocker on the M9 is a "safety", however not every branch/organization does.





As for the M17/18.... someone might have said earlier this year that there were issues with the choice of the Sig.... However, the "upgrade" was already added to the military pistols. There's more to it of course....

pictures of DOD types with hookers??? don't know why they refer to it as the swamp...the septic tank would make more sense.