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What's the definition, for this discussion, of a "common cartridge"?
Cartridges that most people on this site have heard of is a far cry from cartridges that the average hunter at a deer camp have heard of. There's a lot of cartridges already listed on this thread that the vast majority of hunters have never even heard of.
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7x57 280 Remington 308 .45 ACP
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Depends on the build I suppose. My leaned 7x57 Swede just seems proper.
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Whichever one I have in my hands at the time.......
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Whichever new rifle I am LUSTING after at the time.....
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define common?
.308 gets my vote for anything I care to chase around...
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The 30-06 is about as well balanced as they get. Wide bullet selection, great shape for feeding, long neck for cast bullets. Most other cartridges are more nich cratridges that do one or two jobs better, but not as a wide range. Great cartridges: 243, 7x57, 270, 30-06, 35 Whelen, 375 H&H, all great cartridges, with out the fluff and sales hype of the supperdupers and specialty cartridges that you will not find in the small town hardware store. Some might go a little faster with lighter bullets or carry heavier lead without the ballistics, but, the 06 will do it all in North America. I have many calibers but I will always come back to the 06. John
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I am an unapologetic .270 guy and it gets my vote for that "one" cartridge. My family/extended family and friends, as well as my self have killed more deer and elk with that cartridge than is worth mentioning. I am also a believer in "accurate speed kills" so I prefer the 130 class bullets in the 270. In regards to larger animals, I have personally killed 5 elk and a Cow Shiras moose with the cartridge and 129 grain Barnes or 130 partitions were the bullets. Never felt the need to go to 140's or 150's.
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For the majority of North American hunting the 270 Winchester or the 30 06 are very hard to bet. Big bears are the exception, but how many of us hunt big bears?
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7X57 it's worked for over a 100 yeas and will work for another hundred.
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30-30 1895, 6.5x55 1894, 30-06 1903 or 06 if you want to split hairs, 375 H&H 1912, 7x57 Mauser 1892
These are just some of the "modern" ones.
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Take your responsibilities seriously, never yourself-Ken Howell Proper bullet placement + sufficient penetration = quick, clean kill. Finn Aagard
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Couldn't agree more. If you disagree look at the numbers sold every year and the variety available. drover
223 Rem, my favorite cartridge - you can't argue with truckloads of dead PD's and gophers.
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For its age, for what it had to do and the technology of its time, the all time iconic 375 H&H mag... Europeans were for some yrs already using far superior modern flake powders at the time .375H&H was introduced with inferior problematic cordite.
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35 Whelen. Anything an 06 can do a Whelen can do better.
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Common: 308 Winchester 300 WSM
Not so common: 280 Remington
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30-06 for the entire world, except for thick skinned DG. 375HH for everything, everywhere. The 9.3x62 is a great compromise between the two, and would be my overall choice if ammo were as available as '06.
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define common?
.308 gets my vote for anything I care to chase around... +1
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I doubt there's any bigger fan of the 308 Win than me, but I'm also not one that thinks it was designed "perfectly" from the ground up.
When it was standardized it was saddled with a ridiculously long throat for 180 gr RN bullets, and has it to this day. Obviously on a custom you can get any throat you want, but it can be problematic with factory barrels which stick with SAAMI standardization. I've had more than one 308 that wouldn't group well with 2.8" OAL cartridges, but would bug-hole with bullets seated out to the lands.
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