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Can anyone give me some info on A-Square rifles? I've wanted one for years and found one on the internet I'm interested in. I know there out of business and all the crazy fraud stuff that went on but I've heard there hell for stout good rifles. I've never held one and the stock has me wondering if I would like it or not and I would like to know what there worth in today's dollars. Thanks
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For the Hannibal, right handed big bores, they used M1917 actions. They were big, burly rifles. The stock design was anything but svelte, but did a good job in reducing felt recoil. Back in the early '90s, the shop I worked in ordered one in .500 A-Square for a guy and I shot it a fair amount, helping him fireform brass. It was a beast, but actually less punishing than a .460 Weatherby Mark V.
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I dabbled with A-Square rifles twice in the early 90's, I owned a Hannibal in 458 Lott and a little later added one in 470 Capstick. The full sized, unique "Coil Check" stock wouldn't win any beauty contests but did lessen the recoil, the M1917 actions were nicely done, liked the sights but rifles were a chunk to carry and always reminded me of humping the "PIG". Both of mine went down the road when the first Ruger RSM in 416 Rigby was available and I had a 458 Lott built on a Win. M70 action in the late 90's.
Saw one in 495 or 500 A-Square at gunshow last summer and it was listed at $3000 with a few boxes of ammo; I'm not sure what they are selling for these days.
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Did yours shoot pretty descent? good trigger? The one I found is a .416 Remington and has a Leupold scope. Looks really nice as far as an A-square goes. There wanting $2500 which I think is kinda steep especially since I've never handled it. I've got an old Ruger M-77 .458 Win Mag that I shoot once in a great while and it's pretty barrel heavy to me so I didn't know if the A-square might be a nicer rifle or not.
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I would include the Winchester Model 70 as a good candidate for a 416 Remington. I have a current production M70 and is well made with a good factory trigger.
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If that's the one at Grifffin & Howe, call and talk to Paul Chapman. They've had that rifle for AGES! I'll bet $2K or so would do it.
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I seen that rifle, its a .416 Hoffman. The one I'm interested in is a .416 Remington, both rounds are pretty close to the same ballistics but the Hoffman is not factory loaded anymore I don't believe since A-square went under. The Winchester is a good gun for the money no doubt, I picked up a model 70 classic in 7mmSTW a few months ago. I don't know why but I like the looks of the A-square myself
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So do I.....a big beefy rifle that soaks up recoil like it doesn't exist!
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There not for everybody thats for sure, but I think there cool. Ross Seyfried use to call them B-Round!
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Regardless of looks, when you shoot one with the ballistics of the 500 A2, you'll appreciate that stock!
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yeah, I just don't need to have a rifle that big! the .416 to .458 Win is all the recoil I want
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Sharp Shooters in Lubbock, TX had one in .416 Rigby a few weeks back. The grip angle and design reminds a lot of a NULA, which may or may not work for you.
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do you know what it went for or if they still have it? There website is down for the moment for repair it said. Thanks
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As has been stated, the rifles are massively clubby, Bud had one iirc back around 1993, as for me the clean classy lightweight Browning Safari Grade in 458 Win Mag is hard to beat for a close range reliable basher of big game up close, that can be carried for miles, I love mine.
I have no idea of worth on the A-Square rifles.
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I see On Guns International, A-Square 416 Ridgy ,$2,950 and Hannibal 416 Hoffman $2,500.
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If I was going to get a 416 rem mag, there are better options than A-sq.
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I looked at a Model 70 Classic in .416 Remington at a local pawn shop last year the price was pretty good but it had a crack in the stock at the tang that went for about an inch around the pistol grip so I didn't like the looks of that. I tried to get the guy to at least knock the tax off the price but he wouldn't budge so I let it go. I probably should have bought it anyway but I didn't.
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Art still owes me money.
I did use a Hamilcar quite a bit and certainly wouldn't mind another at the right price. That price wouldn't be very high though. Not sure how the Hamilcar differed from the Hannibal.
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I think he still owes a lot of people from the stories I've read!
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