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I have a rental unit that I went to replace bathroom the sink faucet. The 1/2" copper pipe coming out of the wall is slightly larger than a standard size new pipe. I can't slip a sharbite over it, it starts a little but has way to much resistance and a copper elbow won't fit either. I'm trying to go the route of not cutting open the wall behind it and replacing more than what I need to. My question is, could I buy a copper tubing expander and expand a piece of 1/2" copper to fit over the existing pieces coming out of the wall? Kind of like a reducer of sorts and then solder the connection. I measured the outside diameter and its around 5/8". I also tried Emory papering the crap out of it to reduce it as well and failed at getting it to fit. I was with limited tools yesterday. Anyone have any advice?


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Ask a plumber. There WILL be a part made for it. Old new parts mixing is not a new thing.


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1/2" copper pipe is 5/8 OD.


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You must have a fitting for 1/2 OD pipe. Get a compression stop for 5/8 copper. That would be easiest

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I used these tools for many years..

https://www.amazon.com/Superior-Too...mp;psc=1&refRID=RVDXMBWYRX8AWKDH019B

Sometimes you have to soften copper tubing with heat.


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Originally Posted by hanco
You must have a fitting for 1/2 OD pipe. Get a compression stop for 5/8 copper. That would be easiest
That was my thought, too. Rigid copper is 1/2" ID, flexible is 1/2" OD.


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first, is it copper tubing or copper pipe?

tubing is flexible, comes in rolls...pipe comes in straight lengths.

tubing and pipe have different O.D.

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Will a compression fitting (without nut and ferrule) start on it? You can smack it on the pipe without the nut and ferrule, using a mallet and when you knock it back off the pipe should take the smaller fitting.


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Originally Posted by Kenneth
first, is it copper tubing or copper pipe?

tubing is flexible, comes in rolls...pipe comes in straight lengths.

tubing and pipe have different O.D.



Yeah, soft copper will be slightly larger if I remember right.


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You can get 5/8 and 1/2 OD in rolls or rigid tubing. He is trying to put a 1/2 OD fitting on a piece of 5/8 OD pipe.


What was on the pipe before you started? There is usually a thread adapter soldered on the stub out pipe.

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That was also a thought as well, thx.

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General advice when going to the box store to get parts for a plumbing project and you aren't sure exactly what you need. Get one of everything that is anywhere close to the size you need. When you figure out what you need, you back and return what you didn't need.

That way you only have to make two trips to store.

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Originally Posted by Kenneth
first, is it copper tubing or copper pipe?

tubing is flexible, comes in rolls...pipe comes in straight lengths.

tubing and pipe have different O.D.



It appears to be rigid pipe I have only 3" on both hot and cold to work with.

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Originally Posted by Steelhead
Will a compression fitting (without nut and ferrule) start on it? You can smack it on the pipe without the nut and ferrule, using a mallet and when you knock it back off the pipe should take the smaller fitting.




That I don't know, I loaded up the truck the day before and went to work and then straight over after work to work at my rental which was yesterday. First I installed a new hot water heater then 5 thermostats and while I was doing the thermostats my step father cut the hot and cold for the sink faucet. That's when the fun began. These tenants are getting evicted as soon as I can get in fix the sink and take a few more pictures. As far as the compression fitting I didn't give that much thought to it, I did go to Lowes after I spoke with two different plumbers I was exhausted after being up 32 hours and was running out of options and steam. I ended up with a foot long piece of reinforced flexibe tube and 4 hose clamps and two plastic plugs and capped them off. The outside of the pipe measures 5/8".

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[quote=hanco]You must have a fitting for 1/2 OD pipe. Get a compression stop for 5/8 copper. That would be easiest [/quote

The outside diameter of the pipe is 5/8". A standard 1/2" copper fitting will not slide over it, or a shark bite. Something is just a little odd about the size to me. Won't a 5/8" compression fitting be larger than a true 5/8"? More like 3/4?



This?

http://www.homedepot.com/p/Eastman-5-8-in-Compression-x-1-4-in-Compression-Angle-Stop-Valve-04344LF/205995276?cm_mmc=Shopping%7CTHD%7CG%7C0%7CG-BASE-PLA-D26P-Plumbing%7C&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI-KfIi_2J1gIVT1YNCh09QQpUEAQYAyABEgJ0U_D_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds&dclid=COKa75T9idYCFUe4swodaUsJNg

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If it's so urgent call a plumber.


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It's pipe

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Originally Posted by 284LUVR
If it's so urgent call a plumber.



I called several which only one returned my call and had limited ideas as to how to go about it. Another guy I spoke with who is also a plumber but lives too far away suggested a open ended flaring tool and clamping it down to reduce the size of the pipe which didn't work. I'm trying to do it myself and SAVE some money, I've spent too much money on the place this month to keep wasting money if I can figure out how to do it myself.

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You just have the wrong parts....


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All sharkbites that I have seen are CTS,copper tube size.

If a 1/2 inch sharkbite is to small, then you have even me confused.

Are you trying to use a 3/8ths sharkbite on a 1/2" pipe?

or you bought a 1/2inch ID for tubing and you need a 5/8ths OD for pipe.

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