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Have very many oil refineries in Florida when you were a kid?


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To the best of my knowledge, we have built no new refineries in over 30 years, and those we have are running at near max capacity. Anything that effects that flow of fuel makes a big diffrence at the pump. And stations now react to shift in prices as they happen, instead of waiting till it hits them. Info moves much faster now, than when you were a kid. They no longer have to wait for the latest carier pigon to arrive.


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Gone from $2.10ish to $2.60ish here in Virginia
Colonial Pipeline is basically down I am guessing.
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Just seems a little odd that in any business you would want to name, one that was experiencing growth and guaranteed demand like fuel has, that no efforts have been made in over 30 years to build more refineries. ????? Name a business that sits on its hands like the oil industry.


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Originally Posted by Fireball2
Just seems a little odd that in any business you would want to name, one that was experiencing growth and guaranteed demand like fuel has, that no efforts have been made in over 30 years to build more refineries. ????? Name a business that sits on its hands like the oil industry.

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Originally Posted by Fireball2
Just seems a little odd that in any business you would want to name, one that was experiencing growth and guaranteed demand like fuel has, that no efforts have been made in over 30 years to build more refineries. ????? Name a business that sits on its hands like the oil industry.



Seriously? Every time one gets mentioned here comes the EPA and associated BS to shut it down. You can't even build a freaking pipeline (Keystone ring a bell) without people going apeschittt over some hypothetical crap.


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Originally Posted by JGRaider
Originally Posted by Fireball2
Just seems a little odd that in any business you would want to name, one that was experiencing growth and guaranteed demand like fuel has, that no efforts have been made in over 30 years to build more refineries. ????? Name a business that sits on its hands like the oil industry.



Seriously? Every time one gets mentioned here comes the EPA and associated BS to shut it down. You can't even build a freaking pipeline (Keystone ring a bell) without people going apeschittt over some hypothetical crap.



The folks up here are goin apechit crazy over pipelines. Thing is, they all use gas/electricity/LP etc, etc
Guess it is just magically supposed to get where it needs to be for use??


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all they had left today at the Murphy Oil station, was a little bit of High Test at $3.24 a gallon. This is in North Central Florida, a WEEK before Irma is supposed to show up. God help us all. Local Publix grocery was out of bread, beer, canned meat and veggies.


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Found diesel today, maybe supplies get back to normal around Houston.

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Originally Posted by kellory
To the best of my knowledge, we have built no new refineries in over 30 years, and those we have are running at near max capacity. Anything that effects that flow of fuel makes a big diffrence at the pump. And stations now react to shift in prices as they happen, instead of waiting till it hits them. Info moves much faster now, than when you were a kid. They no longer have to wait for the latest carier pigon to arrive.


The expansion of our former Port Arthur refinery was fully the equivalent of building a new refinery given we added 350kbbl/day capacity. Just had to be a bit sneaky about it. wink


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Originally Posted by Birdwatcher


Turns out the name change will cost more'n a million dollars by the time they change logos, uniforms, band outfits etc etc......

Unless they can find someone else with the last name "Lee".


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That was my thought too.

Of course this whole anti-Confederate thing is just an attack on "Whiteness" in general. I woulda termed it an attack on Whites per se except it is my understanding that most of the Student Democrat club pushing for it are also White.


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