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So the idiots have decided to cap the PFD at $1,100 and based on the old schedule that is about 60 million that was knocked out of the AK economy again.

Thinking his odds for being reelected slipped again...

I sure hope they did.


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Any word on the street as to who is running for the R's? I heard that local village idiot mark 'obamacare' begich may run for the democraps. Wish he'd foad. We can't AFFORD him for governor.

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Former House Speaker Mike Chenault from Nikiski is looking into it. I think he would really like to kick Walker's ass.


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There are a huge bunch of them on the R side and history loves to repeat itself among idiots so look for two equal and better candidates to get into it with neither willing to step aside so we get another third-place D for governor!


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Originally Posted by Sitka deer
Thinking his odds for being reelected slipped again....


Not sure why you're so down with the State government handing out money that they don't have. Never was the PFD designed to be a "right", and there will still be a distribution. But sitting here in State government I see that the money just isn't coming in anymore like it used to. Sure, some efficiencies remain, and there's a lot of waste still, but there's also a hand held out at every turn saying "help us over here".


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Originally Posted by Scorpion8
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Thinking his odds for being reelected slipped again....


Not sure why you're so down with the State government handing out money that they don't have. Never was the PFD designed to be a "right", and there will still be a distribution. But sitting here in State government I see that the money just isn't coming in anymore like it used to. Sure, some efficiencies remain, and there's a lot of waste still, but there's also a hand held out at every turn saying "help us over here".


What you said makes absolutely no sense. If you are blind to the fact the state would love to get there greasy hands on the 59 billion In the PFD fund. I think know the since this economic downturn the state has elimnated 70 jobs


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Then STFU. The rest of your statement is superflous bullshit with no real bearing on this discussion other than to massage your own ego.

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Originally Posted by 79S
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Thinking his odds for being reelected slipped again....


Not sure why you're so down with the State government handing out money that they don't have. Never was the PFD designed to be a "right", and there will still be a distribution. But sitting here in State government I see that the money just isn't coming in anymore like it used to. Sure, some efficiencies remain, and there's a lot of waste still, but there's also a hand held out at every turn saying "help us over here".


What you said makes absolutely no sense. If you are blind to the fact the state would love to get there greasy hands on the 59 billion In the PFD fund. I think know the since this economic downturn the state has elimnated 70 jobs


Why did the State eliminate any jobs? Oh, that would be to pay Walker's cronies ridiculous salaries for really important stuff, like looking for places to burn State money while claiming you are looking for gas buyers... or worse.

Since Sister Sarah the State budget has grown hugely and Walker only wants to expand on that...

Proposing a State budget 33% more than last year's and then cutting it back 25% of those percentage points is not a 25% budget reduction, despite Wanker's claim! It is an 8% increase in a ton of areas we do not need to spend that kind of money on.

The money is not coming in because idiots like Wanker have to dick with the oil taxes every time they get into office. They drove the money out of AK development and exploration. The State wastes more money than any other. Virtually every bush high school basketball team has a million dollar budget item for airfare! I think there are LOTS of ways of spending that money more wisely. The money that should have come out last year at PFD time gave a lot of small businesses a big kick in the nuts when things were already tight. Those small businesses keep a lot of that money moving through the local economy.

Just because Wanker took away PFD money does not mean it is available for the State to spend without the legislature growing a pair and voting in plain view with a Yea or Nay.

Personally I do not like the idea of giving with one hand and taking with the other and have no problem with giving up my PFD. I do have a problem with instituting a sale or income tax (or worse, both) just to maintain a PFD check. But the idea Hammond had was sound and the PFD keeps people aware of what the State's money is doing. Take away the vested interest and the Permanent Fund will evaporate like whiskey from a glass...


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Originally Posted by 79S
Originally Posted by Scorpion8
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Thinking his odds for being reelected slipped again....


Not sure why you're so down with the State government handing out money that they don't have. Never was the PFD designed to be a "right", and there will still be a distribution. But sitting here in State government I see that the money just isn't coming in anymore like it used to. Sure, some efficiencies remain, and there's a lot of waste still, but there's also a hand held out at every turn saying "help us over here".


What you said makes absolutely no sense. If you are blind to the fact the state would love to get there greasy hands on the 59 billion In the PFD fund. I think know the since this economic downturn the state has elimnated 70 jobs


I agree.


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Originally Posted by Sitka deer
[quote=79S]The money is not coming in because idiots like Wanker have to dick with the oil taxes every time they get into office. .


Actually it'sd not Walker who has proposed endless changes to the oil tax system, but give him credit for trying to fix it. It's crazy for the State to hand-out exploration gift money (cashable credits) based on promises of production later, it's money that we don't have. And Walker's budget, if you recall, was a compromise between the two sides to try to get something, anything, agreed to and that still hasn't happened. This State has been spending money like they stole it, and that's the truth. It worked in the bonanza days, but it doesn't work now. We're a one-trick pony, and with oil prices low and staying low we can't keep spending money, building roads that we can't maintain, and sharing revenues with cities and boroughs that won't get their own fiscal houses in order.

We build roads here because we get Federal money, but they don't give us money to maintain the roads, and that's money we don't have. The other argument is we build roads to keep the economy going (i.e. keep the contractors employed). Well like any other free-market system if there are too many contractors for the available work, then some of them need to go find work elsewhere. Yea, that's harsh, but it happens in every industry. We're not socialist here, we should not be paying folks to build stuff we don't need just to give them a livelihood. When we need roads and have the money for it, we'll always be able to find a construction firm. It doesn't mean they have to have guaranteed employment for their whole lives here just to be available at that time.

You don't like paying AK-LNG to develop a gas pipeline? Well the big producers ain't doing it, because it's not in their economic interests at this time. Bakken and Marcellus shale gas is too dang cheap down south where the market is. So unless we develop it, it'll be a stranded resource for another 100 years. ConocoPhillips is closing the LNG plant in Nikiski, so that should tell you what they think of the prospects for LNG in Alaska.

Walker is trying to walk a tight-rope between the spend-spend-spend parties that hill the House and the slash-slash-slash parties in the Senate. I think he's doing the best job anyone could right now.


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Originally Posted by 79S
What you said makes absolutely no sense. If you are blind to the fact the state would love to get there greasy hands on the 59 billion In the PFD fund. I think know the since this economic downturn the state has elimnated 70 jobs


70 jobs? Woot, woot!! I knew at least 70 State employees who were doing nothing and getting paid for it. The State system was, and still is, bloated.


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Originally Posted by Scorpion8
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[quote=79S]The money is not coming in because idiots like Wanker have to dick with the oil taxes every time they get into office. .


Actually it'sd not Walker who has proposed endless changes to the oil tax system, but give him credit for trying to fix it. It's crazy for the State to hand-out exploration gift money (cashable credits) based on promises of production later, it's money that we don't have. And Walker's budget, if you recall, was a compromise between the two sides to try to get something, anything, agreed to and that still hasn't happened. This State has been spending money like they stole it, and that's the truth. It worked in the bonanza days, but it doesn't work now. We're a one-trick pony, and with oil prices low and staying low we can't keep spending money, building roads that we can't maintain, and sharing revenues with cities and boroughs that won't get their own fiscal houses in order.

We build roads here because we get Federal money, but they don't give us money to maintain the roads, and that's money we don't have. The other argument is we build roads to keep the economy going (i.e. keep the contractors employed). Well like any other free-market system if there are too many contractors for the available work, then some of them need to go find work elsewhere. Yea, that's harsh, but it happens in every industry. We're not socialist here, we should not be paying folks to build stuff we don't need just to give them a livelihood. When we need roads and have the money for it, we'll always be able to find a construction firm. It doesn't mean they have to have guaranteed employment for their whole lives here just to be available at that time.

You don't like paying AK-LNG to develop a gas pipeline? Well the big producers ain't doing it, because it's not in their economic interests at this time. Bakken and Marcellus shale gas is too dang cheap down south where the market is. So unless we develop it, it'll be a stranded resource for another 100 years. ConocoPhillips is closing the LNG plant in Nikiski, so that should tell you what they think of the prospects for LNG in Alaska.

Walker is trying to walk a tight-rope between the spend-spend-spend parties that hill the House and the slash-slash-slash parties in the Senate. I think he's doing the best job anyone could right now.


Every administration since the initial deals were struck in the mid-'70s has dicked with the contracts, Wanker included. None has realized the oil companies do not need the legal bills their horseshit created, FACT!

Every administration has overspent and since Sister Sarah it has gotten much worse... Wanker has been worse than the rest at a time when we seriously have to see how stupid it is, FACT!

Road building is ridiculous when done like the State has forever... Wanker is doubling down on stupid there, too, FACT!

The gas pipeline has been studied to death and every free-market analysis has said it was preposterous. Not just bad, but completely unworkable. Then the price of LNG fell through the floor. Wanker has wasted millions and is paying his cronies millions to continue the farce and he has not done what he promised when he said he would drop it if buyers were not signed on on September 1. It is well past September one and he has 17 non-binding "letters of interest" without a single contract or real prospect for one. ARCO, decades ago, showed the only real prospect for the gas was to burn it in place and transport as electrons. Their numbers stand as the best idea to date.

For one thing the producers mucked up the gas by failing to protect the field against oxygen and corrosion brought on by sulfate-reducing bacteria (SRBs) which converted sulphur in the pipe into Hydrogen Sulfide. The gas in the field is really dirty and has a very high CO2 level to boot. The carbonic acid created has added to the H2S problem, considerably., FACT!

The Nikiski plant should never have been continued and there is much history there you are obviously not familiar with if you truly believe the closing of the plant is a bad thing, FACT!

You obviously have some blind hard-on for Wanker if you truly can believe what you wrote. He has done nothing positive for the State since he won the election other than test positive for prostate cancer!


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Originally Posted by Sitka deer

The State wastes more money than any other. Virtually every bush high school basketball team has a million dollar budget item for airfare! I think there are LOTS of ways of spending that money more wisely. The money that should have come out last year at PFD time gave a lot of small businesses a big kick in the nuts when things were already tight. Those small businesses keep a lot of that money moving through the local economy.


I have long thought the use of so much money simply for sports was a waste. However, in defense of a bigger picture consideration, that money is infused into local and broader economies in terms of the way it supports smaller airlines and hubs, fuel suppliers, transporters, etc.It is similar to what happens with the PFD money, if perhaps less equitable in terms of the numbers of people affected.


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Personally I do not like the idea of giving with one hand and taking with the other and have no problem with giving up my PFD. I do have a problem with instituting a sale or income tax (or worse, both) just to maintain a PFD check.


Unfortunately, Uncle Sam doesn't think like that, so I'm sure he is glad to get the 25%, or so, cut of a larger PFD.

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But the idea Hammond had was sound and the PFD keeps people aware of what the State's money is doing. Take away the vested interest and the Permanent Fund will evaporate like whiskey from a glass...


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Originally Posted by Sitka deer
He has done nothing positive for the State since he won the election other than test positive for prostate cancer!


It's certainly not worth having a discussion with a moron that would stoop to a statement like that.


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Originally Posted by Scorpion8
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He has done nothing positive for the State since he won the election other than test positive for prostate cancer!


It's certainly not worth having a discussion with a moron that would stoop to a statement like that.

I am rather chagrined to have been so coarse to someone that tongue bathes his scars.


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Rereading your earlier post I realize I missed responding to your ridiculous comment about Walker walking a tight rope. What he is clearly doing is using that rope to drag the House into ever-deeper debt. He has been more spend-spend-spend than any previous Governor in terms of budget requests. That would be in terms of dollars, not percentages. His performance has been anywhere but the middle.


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