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I'd shoot a couple thousand a day if I had the free time and the wife let me.


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Originally Posted by Blackheart
Why does anybody go through 12,000 rounds per week ? Is that among a bunch of shooters ? I went through all the local league matches, to the state championships, to the empire state games and on to the Northeast states championships and never went through more than 500 rounds per week in practice the whole time. This in registered 4 position smallbore which is very demanding of precision.

Some shoot as if their lives depend on it. Literally, not figuratively...

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Much stumps Blackheart, though I hear he's a master gunsmith.


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Originally Posted by Higbean
I'd shoot a couple thousand a day if I had the free time and the wife let me.
To what benefit ? I placed in the top 3 every year at the state chamionships on less than 500 rounds per week practice. I had the highset offhand and kneeling averages in the local league matches, of which there were 144 competitors. Did pretty well in the Northeastern States championships and Empire State Games too, Well enough that I was invited to the olympic tryouts several times over the years. I think if anybody had a need to shoot 200 rounds per day it would be a waste of time and ammunition. In short, if you NEED that much practice you might just suck at it.

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Originally Posted by Steelhead
Much stumps Blackheart, though I hear he's a master gunsmith.
Not much stumps me dipshyt. Though by the looks of your '94 the same can't be said for your stupid ass.

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Originally Posted by Whttail_in_MT
Originally Posted by Blackheart
Why does anybody go through 12,000 rounds per week ? Is that among a bunch of shooters ? I went through all the local league matches, to the state championships, to the empire state games and on to the Northeast states championships and never went through more than 500 rounds per week in practice the whole time. This in registered 4 position smallbore which is very demanding of precision.

Some shoot as if their lives depend on it. Literally, not figuratively...


We weren't training for competition... guess it was a waste of time though whistle


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It was no insult. I grew up hunting in stands. Funny you took it as such. It was to demonstrate the variety of optics needs, rifle needs, etc. depending on locale. You proved my whole point in that for your needs, Leupold would work just fine as you never run the heck out of the erector as you don't have a need because of your location. Which is why you haven't had a failure. Have fun this deer season.


I live in NY and haven't hunted out of a stand in at least 15 years. In that time I've killed over 50 deer and only two were over 100 yards away.. The vast majority of my shots have been between 25 and 75 yards and I can't think of any sighting device I'd have less use for than one with any kind of range finding, mil dot or multi distance aiming points/crosshairs unless it's mounted on a crossbow.


So why comment on an SWFA thread when you have no use for one and no desire to use one?



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Originally Posted by beretzs
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Originally Posted by Blackheart
Why does anybody go through 12,000 rounds per week ? Is that among a bunch of shooters ? I went through all the local league matches, to the state championships, to the empire state games and on to the Northeast states championships and never went through more than 500 rounds per week in practice the whole time. This in registered 4 position smallbore which is very demanding of precision.

Some shoot as if their lives depend on it. Literally, not figuratively...


We weren't training for competition... guess it was a waste of time though whistle

What are you training for ? I've known a bunch of people who are or were in the armed services. None of them ever shot that much.

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Originally Posted by starsky
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It was no insult. I grew up hunting in stands. Funny you took it as such. It was to demonstrate the variety of optics needs, rifle needs, etc. depending on locale. You proved my whole point in that for your needs, Leupold would work just fine as you never run the heck out of the erector as you don't have a need because of your location. Which is why you haven't had a failure. Have fun this deer season.


I live in NY and haven't hunted out of a stand in at least 15 years. In that time I've killed over 50 deer and only two were over 100 yards away.. The vast majority of my shots have been between 25 and 75 yards and I can't think of any sighting device I'd have less use for than one with any kind of range finding, mil dot or multi distance aiming points/crosshairs unless it's mounted on a crossbow.


So why comment on an SWFA thread when you have no use for one and no desire to use one?



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Originally Posted by Blackheart
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Originally Posted by Blackheart
Originally Posted by GregW
It was no insult. I grew up hunting in stands. Funny you took it as such. It was to demonstrate the variety of optics needs, rifle needs, etc. depending on locale. You proved my whole point in that for your needs, Leupold would work just fine as you never run the heck out of the erector as you don't have a need because of your location. Which is why you haven't had a failure. Have fun this deer season.


I live in NY and haven't hunted out of a stand in at least 15 years. In that time I've killed over 50 deer and only two were over 100 yards away.. The vast majority of my shots have been between 25 and 75 yards and I can't think of any sighting device I'd have less use for than one with any kind of range finding, mil dot or multi distance aiming points/crosshairs unless it's mounted on a crossbow.


So why comment on an SWFA thread when you have no use for one and no desire to use one?



Hey Blackheart....
Hey Starsky. GFY.


So you haven't owned one, used one, or probably even seen one, but you'll comment on them. Got it.

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Originally Posted by Blackheart
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Originally Posted by Blackheart
Why does anybody go through 12,000 rounds per week ? Is that among a bunch of shooters ? I went through all the local league matches, to the state championships, to the empire state games and on to the Northeast states championships and never went through more than 500 rounds per week in practice the whole time. This in registered 4 position smallbore which is very demanding of precision.

Some shoot as if their lives depend on it. Literally, not figuratively...


We weren't training for competition... guess it was a waste of time though whistle

What are you training for ? I've known a bunch of people who are or were in the armed services. None of them ever shot that much.


I've known people that were lawyers but I don't pretend to know their job.. just because folks are in the service, doesn't mean they were combatant trained. 100's of 1000's of soldiers, Marines, etc don't shoot a ton other than yearly quals, those that are expected to fight shoot 1000's of rounds a day during shooting exercises.


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Originally Posted by Formidilosus

2x- 1-6x HD
1x 3-9x



Other scopes-

1x- SWFA SS 1-4x Classic (approx. 800 rounds)
2x- Trijicon 1-8x's (approx. 1,200 and 900 rounds)
1x- 2.5-10x NF (approx. 600 rounds)
1x each- 3.5-15x and 4-16x NF (300 rounds apiece)
1x- Leupold MK 6 (around 600 rounds)
Multiple Aimpoints and two EoTechs.



I'll give you two guesses at which three optics had to be pulled due to loss of zero/failure to RTZ....


Thanks for chiming in, Formi. Always appreciate the feedback, especially given the test environment.

If I had to wager, I'd say Leupo was definitely one of them. Previous track record would seem to make this a no brainer. The other two I'm guessing were Triji scopes.

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Originally Posted by Blackheart
Originally Posted by Formidilosus
Doing a drive by.....


Approaching 12,000 rounds through 3 SWFA SS scopes since Monday. They were zeroed Monday morning, and dialed conservatively 50% of the rounds out to 600m. Tracking and RTZ was checked first thing. The zero on them is still perfect.


The work just like the last several dozen SS's.

Why does anybody go through 12,000 rounds per week ? Is that among a bunch of shooters ? I went through all the local league matches, to the state championships, to the empire state games and on to the Northeast states championships and never went through more than 500 rounds per week in practice the whole time. This in registered 4 position smallbore which is very demanding of precision.


Those guys are not doing it for fun-unless you consider consistent head shots at long distance, fun. Well, I guess is kinda would be!


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Originally Posted by 4th_point
Originally Posted by Formidilosus

2x- 1-6x HD
1x 3-9x



Other scopes-

1x- SWFA SS 1-4x Classic (approx. 800 rounds)
2x- Trijicon 1-8x's (approx. 1,200 and 900 rounds)
1x- 2.5-10x NF (approx. 600 rounds)
1x each- 3.5-15x and 4-16x NF (300 rounds apiece)
1x- Leupold MK 6 (around 600 rounds)
Multiple Aimpoints and two EoTechs.



I'll give you two guesses at which three optics had to be pulled due to loss of zero/failure to RTZ....


Thanks for chiming in, Formi. Always appreciate the feedback, especially given the test environment.

If I had to wager, I'd say Leupo was definitely one of them. Previous track record would seem to make this a no brainer. The other two I'm guessing were Triji scopes.

Jason


I'd put my money on the Leupy and the two EOTechs.


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Originally Posted by Blackheart

Why does anybody go through 12,000 rounds per week ? Is that among a bunch of shooters ? I went through all the local league matches, to the state championships, to the empire state games and on to the Northeast states championships and never went through more than 500 rounds per week in practice the whole time. This in registered 4 position smallbore which is very demanding of precision.



That was three shooters, and we're not shooting "4 position smallbore". Competition is excellent for practice, though positional less so, however some have a job that requires more than positional shooting and often at high round counts.



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4th,

wareagle has it. The Leupold and EoTechs. The Trijicon 1-8's are actually doing well.






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I'm not saying that SWFA scopes never break or have any issues. I am saying that they are extremely reliable, very durable scopes and maybe second only to NF from that perspective.

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Sadly, I'm not surprised that the VX-6 had issues, but the EOTechs are dissappointing , and the Trijicon a pleasant surprise.

Good info, thanks again!

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Originally Posted by 4th_point
Sadly, I'm not surprised that the VX-6 had issues, but the EOTechs are dissappointing , and the Trijicon a pleasant surprise.

Good info, thanks again!

Jason


I think the Leupold he indicated was a Mark 6, not VX-6. But I'm sure either would have failed.
Of course who could mix up Leupold scope designations.

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Originally Posted by Blackheart
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Much stumps Blackheart, though I hear he's a master gunsmith.
Not much stumps me dipshyt. Though by the looks of your '94 the same can't be said for your stupid ass.



In short, you're an idiot. I'm guessing NO one here doubts that.


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I wonder if 1,000 rounds a week would have got him into the Olympics or if he was just lacking in natural talent?


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