Steelhead and I were out in far West Texas, mule deer hunting and the night before we were supposed to go to the property, we were in a bar, In Alpine, having pizza and beers. I won't get into what the guy said but it involved a story about the Navy Seals and my BS detector went off. I'm highly skeptical about any stories about that involve the Seals,Delta, or any other special forces. They are just so few of those guys and the chances of meeting one is almost nil. I later tried to verify what the guy said and believe that he was just a dude that was drunk and was looking for attention. I did work,very briefly, with some Seals when I was in the Navy and saw how much those guys shoot on a daily basis and think that most, if not all of them, have shot so much that most all of them can shoot far better than most of us. So I ain't buying the story about their lack of shooting skills. Those bastards can shoot.
---------------------------------------- I'm a big fan of the courtesy flush.
We had a NBC E-3 assigned to us for a while who said he'd made E-6 in the Marines after 4 years and the decided to join the Army. Anyone who has served in the Marines will tell you making E-6 that fast is rare. We got tired of listening to it after a while and made him bring in his DD-214 and it turned out he was dropped out of the NG before even attending AIT.
Thing is he was a smart kid and a pretty decent NBC guy, but he was always trying to build himself up to be more than he was.
I ran into a guy last year that had a USMC t shirt on and he probably weighed close to 300 pounds and maybe no taller than 5'8" with a full beard.
Asked who he deployed with and told me straight up he was on leave and was currently deployed with Force Recon in Afghanistan. I told him I guess they don't monitor the PFT in recon anymore and he asked what the PFT was.....My hero.
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Whom the gods wish to destroy they first make mad.
MY Neighbor Told me He was a Helicopter Mechanic in Vietnam......He can not install a set of plugs in his own car or rebuild a Carb....I found out the other day he was a Cook in the Army..
“When you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth.”
" he probably weighed close to 300 pounds and maybe no taller than 5'8" with a full beard. "
And that would describe this gentleman as well, maybe add 25-30 lbs.
I didn't want to bust this guy's balls as he was a nice guy and a pastor now as well. Just too many things in too short of a time frame as he is only 44 years old but had also worked for the NSA, while being addicted to drugs/EtOH. Trained service dogs for the PTSD patients for the VA (after he received one himself) etc.
ah yes, interesting if one was to know someone that was in on the pablo deal, and in bosnia. which leads me to say the original subject of the post is a goofus. I have/had/not so much now a friend served in vietnam. He was fond of talking about his experiences with the hill people, special forces, and the like. I asked him one day at lunch what the caliber was of a m16. He did not know. Truth was he was a supply officer way behind the lines, our lines that is.
There is a quiet little guy here locally, who runs a trailer company. New and used. Drinks way too much, and slowly dying. You would never know his history, or the chest full of medals and ribbons he has. There is a dust covered display case high up on one wall of the office, and you wouldn't even notice, unless someone told you about him. He never talks about it.
An unemployed Jester, is nobody's Fool.
the only real difference between a good tracker and a bad tracker, is observation. all the same data is present for both. The rest, is understanding what you're seeing.
"Most, not all, but most people I have known in military intelligence sit behind a desk."
That is what I was thinking. I could see this guy as a computer person but doesn't really seem to be the "in the field" type.
I have tried to find out about any U.S casualties in the Bosnia operation and it doesn't appear that there are very many, certainly not a group of 15 KIA/injured that I can find.
A lot of these guys are washouts from basic training. Some get into trouble at first duty assignment and get chaptered. We got back from Afghanistan 2010 and bunch of new privates there about 4-5 months later kid in my office, i had to sign his clearing papers, being escorted was a chapter kid pissed hot. At that point he been in the army 7 months and was getting booted out and going back home. I asked him what he was going to tell his parents he told he didn't know. I thought he was going to cry when I said he was not getting the gi bill either. So I imagine he went home telling some grand war stories about Afghanistan and how he was hurt in combat and the VA was screwing him over..
Originally Posted by Bricktop
Then STFU. The rest of your statement is superflous bullshit with no real bearing on this discussion other than to massage your own ego.