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No one, and I mean no one, can over engineer something like a kraut.
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And that was invented by a German.
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"Hessian draft dodgers", and you can be a member of the 'Sons of the American Revolution".
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I believe The term Hessian became rather generic during the revolution refering to any German soldier, as there were a 1/2 dozen more German Principalities who supplied troops to George III. And there were I believe even three distinctly different Hessian principalities too! Complicated!
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"Come, shall we go and kill us venison? And yet it irks me the poor dappled fools, Being native burghers of this desert city, Should in their own confines with forked heads Have their round haunches gored."
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Today about half the names of residents living there are German names. Not surprised if that included Armstrong's mother. The new immigrants, who were mostly farmers, immediately sought to become as American as possible and within two generations had stopped speaking German at all, unlike today's Mexicans. two things going on here, captain. lots of germans kept their language, customs and communities going for years and generations. WWI and WWII made that a lot less popular. Mexicans drop their language pretty fast also, but we keep getting new ones. the ones you are seeing are new ones. anyone born in mexico still speaks it. in arizona, 2-3 generations pretty well wipes it out. teevee and the innanet. Sycamore
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I'm got a Hessian defector as well on my dad's side that always interested me. Seems like he massively over compensated to show how American he was after the revolution as all of his kids were named after founding fathers. Funny about the Germans inventing everything. my grandmother was a german from the hill country, when ever she would praise us for some accomplishment as kids it was never because we were smart, worked hard, etc., it was always "because we're German".
True about the german's keeping their language/customs, grandma was 4th generation american but german was her first language (and nothings scarier to a little kid who doesn't speak much of the language than to be scolded in German-just sounds meaner) and the copy of her birth certificate that I have is in German, my mother's generation was the first in our family that didn't speak german as a first language.
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One of the reasons German hung on so long in some areas of Texas (especially hill country) was isolation.
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"Come, shall we go and kill us venison? And yet it irks me the poor dappled fools, Being native burghers of this desert city, Should in their own confines with forked heads Have their round haunches gored."
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Now there's another "fact" that would make my Dad proud. Somewhere way back, I read that Texas BBQ as we know it was invented by Germans. Supposedly a butcher shop in New Braunfels started slow-cooking meat over mesquite and came up with what Central Texas calls BBQ. They even invented serving it on brown butcher paper.
I've made a pilgrimage to Coopers in Llano to eat under W's picture. KYHillChick has family down there that sends it to us as a Christmas Present.
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. . . and I love going to a Mexican restaurant in Cincinnati and hearing polka music. It's the only places in town you can hear it. The Krautheads are too embarassed to own up to it, but the Mexicans eat it up. Germans taught the Mexicans to play it!
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Now there's another "fact" that would make my Dad proud. Somewhere way back, I read that Texas BBQ as we know it was invented by Germans. Supposedly a butcher shop in New Braunfels started slow-cooking meat over mesquite and came up with what Central Texas calls BBQ. They even invented serving it on brown butcher paper.
I've made a pilgrimage to Coopers in Llano to eat under W's picture. KYHillChick has down there that sends it to us as a Christmas Present. Whoever it was who invented it Im thankful. My adopted grand dad's cousins over in Lockhart had good BBQ back in the day. They were all Kreuz's! Prolly wasn't mesquite they were slow cooking with. But that's ok.
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Founder Ancient Order of the 1895 Winchester
"Come, shall we go and kill us venison? And yet it irks me the poor dappled fools, Being native burghers of this desert city, Should in their own confines with forked heads Have their round haunches gored."
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Today about half the names of residents living there are German names. Not surprised if that included Armstrong's mother. The new immigrants, who were mostly farmers, immediately sought to become as American as possible and within two generations had stopped speaking German at all, unlike today's Mexicans. two things going on here, captain. lots of germans kept their language, customs and communities going for years and generations. WWI and WWII made that a lot less popular. Mexicans drop their language pretty fast also, but we keep getting new ones. the ones you are seeing are new ones. anyone born in mexico still speaks it. in arizona, 2-3 generations pretty well wipes it out. teevee and the innanet. Sycamore Thats funny as hell, and while true for some hardly true for all. More to it than speaking English......
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Wife comes from German families that had emigrated to Russia in the 1700's before coming to the US in the 1800's. No real reason given for the emigration, except that the Russian Tsars were recruiting Germans to move there by promising them land/etc., plus freedom from ever being conscripted. Germans kept their language, traditions, etc. - but when Russia started getting nasty in the 1800's a lot of those Russian Germans took off for the states. Many of those who stayed in Russia were purged by Lenin during WW2.
Never hear much about Germany in the 1700's, but must not have been a good place to live. Hutterite?
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Wife comes from German families that had emigrated to Russia in the 1700's before coming to the US in the 1800's. No real reason given for the emigration, except that the Russian Tsars were recruiting Germans to move there by promising them land/etc., plus freedom from ever being conscripted. Germans kept their language, traditions, etc. - but when Russia started getting nasty in the 1800's a lot of those Russian Germans took off for the states. Many of those who stayed in Russia were purged by Lenin during WW2.
Never hear much about Germany in the 1700's, but must not have been a good place to live. Hutterite? Not any that I know of. Vast majority I'm familiar with are mostly plain jane Lutherans. We looked back through a genealogy site at her family's ancestors in Russia.. and talk about a hard freaking life. I think we were looking at something like a minimum of 50% child deaths in the first couple of years. Trust me, to leave your family and friends behind and move up to the Sandhills of Nebraska with hardly any money, tools, maybe one mule, and try to eke out a crop? And then consider that a better life? Russia had to be a nightmare.
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As a world we owe a lot to the Germans. A huge lot.
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Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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Wife comes from German families that had emigrated to Russia in the 1700's before coming to the US in the 1800's. No real reason given for the emigration, except that the Russian Tsars were recruiting Germans to move there by promising them land/etc., plus freedom from ever being conscripted. Germans kept their language, traditions, etc. - but when Russia started getting nasty in the 1800's a lot of those Russian Germans took off for the states. Many of those who stayed in Russia were purged by Lenin during WW2.
Never hear much about Germany in the 1700's, but must not have been a good place to live. Hutterite? Not any that I know of. Vast majority I'm familiar with are mostly plain jane Lutherans. We looked back through a genealogy site at her family's ancestors in Russia.. and talk about a hard freaking life. I think we were looking at something like a minimum of 50% child deaths in the first couple of years. Trust me, to leave your family and friends behind and move up to the Sandhills of Nebraska with hardly any money, tools, maybe one mule, and try to eke out a crop? And then consider that a better life? Russia had to be a nightmare. That's interesting. I knew the Mennonites (which split into various Mennonite denominations and Hutterite variations) had done the move to Russia to escape military service, then when the Russians reneged they went to Canada, who then reneged and a bunch of the Mennonites went to Mexico. I didn't know the Lutherans had too. Cool info, would've been a very tough life in Russia!
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I always figured Neil was American.
P My uncle was Neil Stiegelmeier from South Dakota. He wasn't exactly Irish.
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