Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Hunter's Campfire Road Rage in Oklahoma - biker vs pickup driver

There's no question that what the kids did was stupid as hell. I have said that from the onset. But nothing I saw indicated that they were a physical threat. It was non-violent until the driver got out and made it violent. Under the cover of his brother's shotgun I might add. Being scared isn't legal justification for assaulting someone. Was it you who justified their choice to not call 911 because police response can't be counted on in instances like this in rural areas? And now you are telling me you think it would have done some good for the kids to call the cops to report a traffic infraction?

I have never chased anyone down, but I have got beside them and taken occasion to express my displeasure with them. I have even invited a few back with a friendly wave. Bullies won't normally take you up on that.

So if they were in a couple cars versus on bikes they'd still be justified following the guy in the truck and getting out and confronting him and then when it doesn't go as they'd planned they can cry that they were scared?

They were looking for trouble and found it, they're lucky that the locals had the sense to contain their lesson to the head dumb ass.

If someone is chasing you for 14 miles, screaming at you, cussing, etc, what do you expect them to do when you stop? Would you want to stop at your house?

Once a car with a couple of people in it cut me off really badly. Inches. Of course, I did what comes natural to a hot head - I flipped them off a couple times. So they decided to follow me to work. Seeing as how I was unarmed and out numbered, I did the only reasonable thing you could do - I pulled behind a vacant building. As soon as they saw what a lonely place that was, I'm sure they assumed I was "stronger" than I really was. The took off like bats outta Brooklyn!

Who ever saw a teenage boy on a crotch rocket ride slowly enough that a pickup truck could pass him?

Yep

Most the group was on scooters, prob'ly having a fine old time, racing with them things pegged flat out 40-45 mph.

Stupid people on bikes acting stupid,
Stupid in trucks acting stupid.

Who expects to see something brilliant.

College guys were liberal pukes who caused a stink after catching someone who made an error and as liberal pukes usually do wanted to let the driver know how dumb he is and how bad he fugged up. Teachers helpers for sure who grew up finger pointing. That one strutting around in the yellow shirt certainly acts lite in the loafers.

I saw it as a very stupid game of one up. Some of which was legal and some of which was illegal. If it can be said the kids were looking for trouble and found it, then it can certainly be said the Bubbas were looking for it and found it. You go cutting off a group of kids on motorbikes in your PCV, setting up armed road blocks, launching physical assaults and threatening to kill people, you are looking for trouble. It could also be said that they lost their poor, innocent me defense.

The game of one up.

PCV driver gets impatient and effects a dangerous discourteous and illegal pass. (Per one of the motorcyclists)

Not to be outdone, the riders decide to follow the jackwipe to try to catch up and dress him down, intimidate him or to get physical. Some speculation here for those who have trouble sorting statements of fact from conjecture.

Unhappy with the behavior of the motorcyclists who are following him, the truck driver calls in reinforcements. Once he has the comfort of armed back up, he decides to dispense his version of backwoods justice. To try to cover the tracks they know will get them in trouble, the Bubba brothers steal the video equipment that was being used to chronicle the game. But they overlooked one device.

In the final quarter of our dumb game of one-up, the evidence in the one device is used to bring charges against some of the Bubba brothers.

But this game is going into overtime, and I suspect some of the motorcyclists are going are wish they hadn't published the video evidence.

Stupid game with stupid players with lots of lessons learned.

Years ago some acquaintances in college said AAs in Houston got a kick out of driving loop on Friday and Saturday night running bikers off the freeways. Supposedly Mexicans did the same in South Texas. One engineering student i knew at Kingsville got ran off the hwy and shoulder one night and lost control control and crashed, roughing him up and tearing up his big heavy bike pretty right.

why do some grown ups act like toddlers?

Questions:

1. Are both rednecks/bikers and college punks/bikers dumber than schidt? Answer: Yep

2. Can both Birdwatcher and P Bernard speculate endlessly based on their vast experience? Answer: Yep

3. What looks good on a 1%er? Answer: tire tracks from a cop car.


mike r

lol +1

That guy could be sitting on a D-Cell powered vibrating butt plug.

Just sayin'

??

So could you.

Speculation, of course.

I mean, look where your avatar says you're from.

So how many miles do you got? Near as I can figure I'm at about 260,000. But its been about 20 years since my riding days, other than a NY trip in 2010.

Egad! Got me to thinking, I might have more miles on two wheels than I do on four.

I have some aquantances with tier-1 skill set, past conversations they have indicated they would not foolishly put themselves and wife/family
at greater risk and distinct disadvantage by exiting the vehicle in such type circumstances, even though they have capabilities way beyond
the halfwit hot head felon hicks in the video...people with such high skill sets still prefer to apply intel.-brains before brawn.

he was a family man in his truck , but not a very bright one or very skilled one, going by how much physical effort
he had to put into that one weedy rider..
if just 3 or 4 of those riders were carrying and drew their weapons after the shotgun was fired, all hell could have broken loose
with his family in the immediate danger zone because he decided to put them there following his plan to escalate the situation.

One has to be exceptionally dumb to unnecessarily gamble the wellbeing of ones wife and kids, just because one wants to show a
mouthy rider and his unkown quantity group who the boss is.

A felonious group that creates a roadblock, threatens to kill, produces and discharges a firearm,
is clearly asking to be perforated., maybe one day it will still happen and help clean out the defective gene pool..

This.

I bought my 1st motorcycle in 1961 at age 14. It was a 1958 Zundapp ISDT that the previous owner had won the old Catalina Island GP on. I raced my way to a AMA national top 100 plate in the desert on Bultacos, Montessas and Huskys. I rode from Long Beach. Ca. to Key West, Fl. and back in 9 days on a Dunstall Triumph. I was chosen from my police academy to serve undercover on a Federal task force combating biker gangs dealing drugs and guns in Socal.

During this entire period I managed to own both motorcycles and cars.


mike r