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i hear a lot of talk about throttling N.K. with trade restriction, and so on.
Does anyone remember the late 30's and another country that we restricted scrap metal, petroleum imports to/ under door no one.....Japan how well did that work out?
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i hear a lot of talk about throttling N.K. with trade restriction, and so on.
Does anyone remember the late 30's and another country that we restricted scrap metal, petroleum imports to/ under door no one.....Japan how well did that work out? That, too, was an intentional provocation directed at Japan. Roosevelt wanted to pressure a Japanese attack on the US to bring us into the war.
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People who have never fought in a war are most often the ones spouting off about how war is the only option.
They won't be the ones fighting it. They will be writing papers,giving speeches, and in general, being blowhards, all from the safety of their office, but never actually getting their hands dirty. Meanwhile, other people are being sent off to do their bidding and die.
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Kim always personally watches his missile launches. It is time to burn a 1 mile circle around his next missile launch. Even if it misses Kim he will understand and hide. The rest of the world will fall in line too. No living thing wants an ass kicking. Time to start playing for the win.
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War has never been the only option, just preferable to some damn fool's!
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Bibi will be solving the problem.
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i hear a lot of talk about throttling N.K. with trade restriction, and so on.
Does anyone remember the late 30's and another country that we restricted scrap metal, petroleum imports to/ under door no one.....Japan how well did that work out? That, too, was an intentional provocation directed at Japan. Roosevelt wanted to pressure a Japanese attack on the US to bring us into the war. Captain KOTY strikes again!
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SOMEBODY please tell TRH that Netanyahu NEVER said "Once we squeeze all we can out of the United States, it can dry up and blow away."
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People who have never fought in a war are most often the ones spouting off about how war is the only option.
They won't be the ones fighting it. They will be writing papers,giving speeches, and in general, being blowhards, all from the safety of their office, but never actually getting their hands dirty. Meanwhile, other people are being sent off to do their bidding and die.
All true, but if NK explodes a nuclear warhead over U.S. territory, Guam, that is an undeniable act of war and we know from WW2 that turning the other cheek and ignoring egregious aggression by a dictatorship hasn't turned out well. I believe that if Trump draws a line in the sand, he will act accordingly, unlike BHO, if that line is crossed.
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The author of the article sure looks like he's ready for war. He probably needs to get a camo bow tie before he grabs up his M4 and heads into combat, however. https://www.rhsmith.umd.edu/directory/peter-morici
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Look deeper into the history of that war than what's offered up to you by the establishment. Germany never attacked the US. National Socialist Germany's early military actions were directed at reunification after having been split up by the Treaty of Versailles. As for Austria, they voted to join National Socialist Germany (as did the inhabitants of the former Prussian city of Danzig). Poland intentionally provoked Germany to attack them, at the encouragement of England and France, with the promise that they'd have their backs when the time came, along with promises of even more German territory after the war. The reality was that England and France wanted war with Germany because Germany was kicking their asses economically, so encouraged Poland's war provocations. They assumed they'd walk right through Germany within weeks, at which point they'd re-clap the irons on them. Read this book. I suppose England and Russia also asked to be attacked??? Poland "provoked" the Nazis??? Every time I think you can't outdo your last crazy statement, you prove me wrong... I like Buchanan, but that book and his thesis is about as fugged up as a football bat. As to Korea, war is definitively NOT the only option.
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People who have never fought in a war are most often the ones spouting off about how war is the only option.
They won't be the ones fighting it. They will be writing papers,giving speeches, and in general, being blowhards, all from the safety of their office, but never actually getting their hands dirty. Meanwhile, other people are being sent off to do their bidding and die.
Exactly correct, NK is only posturing a show of strength...he won't attack any land mass. Diplomatic avenues are the only choice, in the end Kim will get his way...and keep his nukes. Then the Iran deal will be revisited, which will be the next chiitstorm to endure...Trump is discussing that now.
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War has never been the only option, just preferable to some damn fool's!
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i hear a lot of talk about throttling N.K. with trade restriction, and so on.
Does anyone remember the late 30's and another country that we restricted scrap metal, petroleum imports to/ under door no one.....Japan how well did that work out? That, too, was an intentional provocation directed at Japan. Roosevelt wanted to pressure a Japanese attack on the US to bring us into the war. Captain KOTY strikes again! I hadn't realized, till this post, quite how out of touch you really are.
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jaguartx asks S, you say we know that Kim will not invade anyone, and then your first listed concern is that he is crazy. So how does anyone know what a mad man may or may not do?
Super good question!
The reason I think it's safe to say Kim will invade no one (other than S. Kores) is that his military has no amphibious capability to do so. No landing capability and no support capability. So that means the only 2 countries that he can march into are China (not going to happen-- as China is his only "friend") and S. Koera. If he were to go into S. Korea the USA, Japan, Australia and many UN forces would counter. He can attack, but he probably can't hold it.
I am NOT saying that the little mad-man will not attack. I am asking what he thinks he can gain personally.
Remember, he's not a Muslim and he has no "god" to sacrifice himself for. He is a spoiled little fat-brat who delights in luxury. Is this guy so stupid as to think he can sit back and watch the "war game" and that it will not endanger him personally? He may be a nut, but I don't think he's so stupid as to believe he will walk away from this without personal risk.
So that leads me to wonder who is pulling the strings. I keep coming back to China. Or some one in the back rooms at the UN.
War is always profitable for a very few, and horrible for everyone else.
I think we need to ask who can gain from this. "Global crisis' is just the kind of thing the globalists want, to gain more power.
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Out of touch? when you find yourself being saddled with the KOTY award (perenially), you find yourself in agreement with lefties like Greyghost, I'd pause. That said, I definitively agree war is not nor should it be the only option with the NORKS. Now ask me about Iran...
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Fuggin Iran will be a problem
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jaguartx asks S, you say we know that Kim will not invade anyone, and then your first listed concern is that he is crazy. So how does anyone know what a mad man may or may not do?
Super good question!
The reason I think it's safe to say Kim will invade no one (other than S. Kores) is that his military has no amphibious capability to do so. No landing capability and no support capability. So that means the only 2 countries that he can march into are China (not going to happen-- as China is his only "friend") and S. Koera. If he were to go into S. Korea the USA, Japan, Australia and many UN forces would counter. He can attack, but he probably can't hold it.
I am NOT saying that the little mad-man will not attack. I am asking what he thinks he can gain personally.
Remember, he's not a Muslim and he has no "god" to sacrifice himself for. He is a spoiled little fat-brat who delights in luxury. Is this guy so stupid as to think he can sit back and watch the "war game" and that it will not endanger him personally? He may be a nut, but I don't think he's so stupid as to believe he will walk away from this without personal risk.
So that leads me to wonder who is pulling the strings. I keep coming back to China. Or some one in the back rooms at the UN.
War is always profitable for a very few, and horrible for everyone else.
I think we need to ask who can gain from this. "Global crisis' is just the kind of thing the globalists want, to gain more power.
Once again, the name "Soros" springs to mind. Wars are about money and Kim is getting paid by somebody to posture and talk [bleep].
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I think blowing up an atomic weapon in the pacific in the air is a big deal. If north korea does this it will affect most countries around the world.
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I think Trump should start a war with North Korea then only draft registered Democrats into the military to fight it,......and illegals,...illegals too.
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You are not w/o options there is Taiwan island disputes in South China Sea plus there are countries like the Baltic states and other countries in Eastern Europe. At Teheran or was it Yalta you had no problemo forking over entire Eastern Europe to make "Uncle Joe" stay in the fight to spare your own. Perhaps you can make similar deal with Russia and or China. To start military operations in North Korea you need South Koreans to do ground fighting for you and backing of at least Russia. Risking conflict with your greatest foe (China) w/o at least Russia at your back is obviously out of the question. With hight tech being cheaper and cheaper throwing massive amount of $ at hardware brings fewer and fewer benefits which in long-term favors China. It will be interesting to see what your diplomats will do.
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