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Jorge to the rescue, eh? You two are quite the team.

FPSRussia? Is that you?

If we go to war before being attacked, kill gopher boy, and destroy his nukes ...

THEN WHAT ?

You can't go in and bomb the schit out of em' pull out and leave a vacuum. That's been tried many times before and the consequences are never good.

Would it be possible to achieve complete and total surrender from the remaining leaders?

What about the millions of NKs that have been brainwashed into hating the US?

How would we deal with the pissed off NKs that could start a guerrilla war against occupational forces?

Who would be responsible for creating a new government and rebuilding the infrastructure to run the country?

The US?

NATO?

South Korea?

China?

Iran?

ISIS?

What's the next step after plan A ... war. Remember there's always a B, C, D, etc..

I'd love to see gopher boy wiped off the face of the planet but the aftermath is a very slippery slope.

Don't get me wrong. I hate the idea of being threatened by a madman. If the NORKs explode a nuke that kills or endangers the US or any of its allies then war is absolutely justified. Until then it's a damned if you do, damned if you don't, and I don't know the solution.

The best solution is a coup d'etat by his generals or other leaders, then hopefully we could negotiate with them for at least some normalization of relations even if that isn't optimum for S. Korea or both Koreas. But at least you're talking to people who aren't crazy (one hopes). But given Kim's penchant for blowing up anyone who doesn't "harrumph" fast enough at a staff meeting he seems to nip those in the bud fairly quickly. Plus, AFAIK, there are factions within the government/military that hate each other but are kept in a precarious balance by fat boy himself.

If an armed conflict of some kind occurred and we ended up occupying N. Korea, the first thing we'd need to do is keep as much of their government and military in place as possible. Patton got that right after WWII by keeping Nazis running the infrastructure since they already knew how, and we blew that after overthrowing Saddam. The home team military speaks the language and is in a position to control the populace. We would be in charge but they'd be the boots on the ground keeping order. And since the Nork Army is so huge it's better to house them in place than send them home to their starving villages. In any case, a minimal US presence would be preferable to a larger one with huge bases and green zones providing targets for guerillas. Some massive aid in the way of food would probably pacify the populace as quickly as anything.

But getting rid of Kim one way or another seems to be the prerequisite for any other steps. Whether that can be done with one bullet or requires a boomerful of MIRV'ed warheads remains to be seen.

I've been saying that our behind the scenes message to Russia and China should be that if we have to take GB out, we will reunify Korea. If they want a two-state setup to continue, they have to take him out - soon.

If we have to attack him it should be stated loudly from the start that we will reunify Korea with a Korean government and guarantee their borders until they get things under control. Let the NKs deal with SKs occupying them, that should be very palatable and there should be sincere relations between them quickly. Use our troops to help with the relief in SK for the ruin and disruption of the war, so as to free up SK soldiers for the occupation of NK.and patrol the borders with bristling air assets or whatever it takes to keep Russia and China from rolling in.

It would take some real balls and determination to stare down China and Russia while taking out their puppet, but the unified Koreans, N & S, should respect that immensely and get down to business building a prosperous and secure Korea.

I bet if we announce we're going to start handing out free H-Bombs to Japan, SKorea, and Taiwan, the Chinese would suddenly discover more innovative solutions to the problem than you could shake a stick at.

Bibi will solve it and Iran.

The full extent of China's trade with North Korea is not really known, but estimated. A recent article in Forbes Magazine ("China Has Nothing To Gain From Sanctioning North Korea") discusses this. see: https://www.forbes.com/sites/sarahs...om-sanctioning-north-korea/#388b5b366c97

The North has little regard for it's own population's dire straights and increased sanctions will probably do little to curb the Little Fat Boy with the Bad Haircut from continuing his programs. If a war breaks out, not only will North Korea be wiped out, but millions of others in Japan and South Korea (and probably Guam) will die in an exchange. Included in these millions could be the 136,000 Americans in South Korea and the 90,000 in Japan - these numbers include US service personnel.

The nations you mention currently have the technical and financial resources to develop nuclear weapons. Such developments are probably more threatening to China than the threat of economic sanctions on them (they DO trade with the entire world and the US, while dominant, is only one trading partner). China certainly worries about being surrounded by nuclear armed nations as this would destabilize the region.

"Germany (as did the inhabitants of the former Prussian city of Danzig)."

Your buying into the Nazi propaganda.

Victors write the initial histories, which is typically a mere repeat of the propaganda used during the war. It's generally only fifty years or so later that the real history of a war begins to be hashed out with any accuracy.

"I keep coming back to China.
Or some one in the back rooms at the UN."

I wonder if there may not be some truth in that last statement about the UN. It seems we're the big stumbling block towards their goal of a one world order. These days, nothing much would surprise me.
Paul B.

i don't think we have enough in our checking account to rebuild another country. you think iraq and afghanistan were pricey, wait until you get a load of what it would cost to rebuild a blown up nork. and rebuild we would. we always do. the best thing a schithole country can do is go to war with the US.

Do we really want a new war? We are currently in 2 wars, (Afghanistan and Iraq) and have lost about 7,000 troops with almost 1,000,000 wounded in these places and about a $6 Trillion expended - to what end? It is interesting to remember that the primitive tribesmen in Afghanistan defeated 2 world powers (Britain and the Soviet Army) - are we next?

Also, we lost about 37,000 US servicemen in the Korean war (according to a Pentagon report). We really do need to explore all options before proceeding down this path.

Dude.....no other country that has nuclear capability is threatening us or our allies with their use....

What ?

No, WE don't want war.....Kim does and in case you haven't been listening to him, it's gonna happen whether WE want it to or not....those KIA and wounded you mention above will pale in comparison to a SINGLE nuclear weapon hitting a major city....how many are you willing to let him have??? How many ICBMs???

I say give it to south korea and create one free country.

Lil' Kim doesn't want war either, he wants to be treated like Big Kim.