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I don't see what options the cop had. That guy wasn't going to stop his attack on the cop and the cop was left with a taser that didn't do what he needed it to do or his firearm. A guy determined to take my firearm from me is likely to get perforated.
Mental illness is very often fatal, usually as a direct result of the actions of the mentally ill persons' actions.
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The Police Officer needs a larger caliber handgun.
Seven point blank shots and the perp is still on his feet.
The perp should have been down to the ground on the first shot. I don't care what was in the perp's hand,( or what the LEOP thought he saw) you walk down a LEO and try to beat his a$$, after he's given you ionstructions to cease and desist, you're asking to get shot. Plain and simple. Now we can go back see if this all stems from if his mom hugged him enough, if it's because he didn't get to be Spiderman on that one Halloween, or wtf his mental problems are and, chat like a bunch of magpies, bottom line says actions have consequences. And this morons actions reaped fatal consequences. End of story.
Only question I have is do CA LEOs carry nightsticks anymore? Or did they take those away after the Rodney King deal...I think a good skull cracking would have been in order before wasting taxpayer money on bullets.. I think you should study what constitutes legal use of a baton
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I think they took CA cop's nightsticks away after Rodney King... Not from the Los Angeles Sheriff's Dept. I think now a lot of LASD Deputies carry the ASP, but the PR24 baton is still authorized. L.W.
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Better view of shootingI didn't read the whole thread so I don't know if this video has been posted.... Good Shoot IMO.
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The Police Officer needs a larger caliber handgun.
Seven point blank shots and the perp is still on his feet.
The perp should have been down to the ground on the first shot. Have you ever hunted big game? A165 gr ballistic tip at 2600 fps impact velocity from a 30-06, perfectly placed into heart/lungs will not reliably knock even a small deer down. From 70 lb yearling doe to 200 lb mature bucks, I have never seen a deer DRT except from CNS shots. Sure they die, after they bolt 50 to 100 yds. If a 70 lb deer can run 50 yds after being hit in the heart with a frangible bullet from a high velocity rifle, think about how much damage a determined, doped up human (possibly with a weapon) could inflict before he finally falls over. There is a good reason to just keep pulling the trigger until the threat is positively eliminated. "Two to the chest, one to the head, two to the chest, one to the head, two to the chest, one to the head..............."
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The Police Officer needs a larger caliber handgun.
Seven point blank shots and the perp is still on his feet.
The perp should have been down to the ground on the first shot. Have you ever hunted big game? " Spot on. Lots of stupid/ignorance on this thread. Dave
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Better view of shootingI didn't read the whole thread so I don't know if this video has been posted.... Good Shoot IMO. I hadn't seen this one. Thanks for posting. I think the most disturbing thing about these videos, is somebody taking the video. Dave
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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But,but,but in the movies people get blown off their feet nd through walls when they get shot with 9mms
The government plans these shootings by targeting kids from kindergarten that the government thinks they can control with drugs until the appropriate time--DerbyDude
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Better view of shootingI didn't read the whole thread so I don't know if this video has been posted.... Good Shoot IMO. I hadn't seen this one. Thanks for posting. I think the most disturbing thing about these videos, is somebody taking the video. Dave Big +1 there Dave
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If he'd whipped out a 12 Guage and unloaded with 00 buck it'd been more visually impressive.
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Better view of shootingI didn't read the whole thread so I don't know if this video has been posted.... Good Shoot IMO. I hadn't seen this one. Thanks for posting. I think the most disturbing thing about these videos, is somebody taking the video. Dave It was me I was like oh I can't wait to send this to deflave the realized I lost your email address
Then STFU. The rest of your statement is superflous bullshit with no real bearing on this discussion other than to massage your own ego. Suckin' on my titties like you wanted me.
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LMAO.
"Hey bro. Stopped for a Big Gulp and some Swisher Sweets. Look at this schit."
Dave
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Another better view of Officer shooting attackerAnother video of the event. At about :24 seconds the officer tells the perp to "let go of my gun" twice. The perp is trying to get the Officers gun. At about :43 seconds you can hear the video taker or someone next to them say "what's he got in his hand". So while that person is watching this unfold in front of them they don't know what the perp is holding in his hand, so you can bet the Officer in the struggle doesn't know either. Good Shoot IMO.
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Every time you post, I see your avatar from the corner of my eye, and this is what my mind makes of it till I look directly at it.
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Another better view of Officer shooting attackerAnother video of the event. At about :24 seconds the officer tells the perp to "let go of my gun" twice. The perp is trying to get the Officers gun. At about :43 seconds you can hear the video taker or someone next to them say "what's he got in his hand". So while that person is watching this unfold in front of them they don't know what the perp is holding in his hand, so you can bet the Officer in the struggle doesn't know either. Good Shoot IMO. Thanks for posting those. Dave
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I'm not an expert in such things. But watching both videos and putting myself in the officer's shoes, I would have done the same thing. The perp is aggressive from the start, advancing on the officer and not complying. Even taking a swing. Officer tries taser to no affect. Officer looks to be getting the upper hand when perp reaches for and gets something off duty belt - no idea what. Perp gets back up in fighting mode and officer engages - all the while giving orders to comply. Perp goes down and then drops whatever he has in his hand. He lifted his head again off the pavement until the officer obscures the view.
Wonder what would've happened if one or both of the videographers would have come to the officer's aid?
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There's not a district, department, or agency in this country that would deem this scenario a bad shoot.
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Wonder what would've happened if one or both of the videographers would have come to the officer's aid?
thats the most insightful comment of this thread.
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The perp is aggressive from the start, advancing on the officer and not complying. Even taking a swing. Officer tries taser to no affect. To be fair, you've got that backwards. The officer tased him to no effect, resulting in the suspect moving aggressively towards the officer and taking a swing. Then the fight was on. We don't know what the circumstances were that made the officer conclude that a taser was the appropriate response, as that's not in the video. The video starts with the taser barbs already in the suspect.
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