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They're putting collars on every wolf they can so that SSS is playing Russian roulette. Incidentally I know a guy that SSS and he was telling me that the way most guys get caught SSS is by their bootprints. When they walk up to see the wolf they leave their bootprints and a trail.

I'll start hunting in bare feet. 😁

The DNR is going to or has released wolves here. The federal government is behind it. The DNR insisted there were no mountain lions here until one was shot. The man that shot that mountain lion looked out his window and saw it and did not know where his young son was playing on their farm so he shot it. The DNR didn't charge the man since they had claimed there were no mountain lions in the state. The DNR quit relocating problem bears because the bears go right back to where they were and caused problems where they are released and all the way back to their original area.

Or just never aproach closer than 600 yds.

Luckily the FEDS have MILLIONS and MILLIONS of acres of land out west to play such games.

I know a guy in Eastern MT that gets paid to shoot coyotes from his plane.
He finds the big herds of antelope in the winter on snow, and they will be surrounded with coyotes.
He says the helicopter can kill more coyotes per hour than he can with a plane.
And the government pays more per hour for the helicopter than for the plane.
My brother has gone along and shot the coyotes from the plane with the 12 ga.
My brother's doctor says he should take illegal drugs and chase hookers... he will live longer.
There have been accidents while hunting coyotes with a plane, and I have had the surviving relatives pointed out.

I heard a rumor that a paunch shot won't generally kill them on the spot and will just pass through.

Come on dude.




Travis

I will be satisfied when wolves inhabit Central Park in nyc, and all the other big city parks.
Jus' Sayin'

If some one was to be illegality shooting wolves, why would they leave the collar there?
You would think they would put it on something that floats and toss it in the river.

The greenies keep telling us that wolves only feed upon the aberrant of the species. I would think NYC could feed a couple hundred wolves and never notice the attrition.

I am fortunate to be retired w/ plenty of time to spend on our public lands, MILLIONS and MILLIONS of acres to play and hunt on. I just returned from a long day spent hiking and listening to the bugling Elk in the CMR, Montana doesn't suck.


mike r

"The guy" might be BS'ing you just a bit with that tale....

Wolves have gotten a lot of press since they were released in these parts 20 plus years ago. I've never heard of anyone getting caught doing the SSS thing.

The very best thing you can do if the police (Game Wardens, Feds, etc.) come asking questions is to politely say I am not going to make a statement. I am a retired game warden, and I know that if we were insistently asking questions we didn't have enough evidence. Most, but not all game wardens would have some sympathy with a hunter or livestock owner that shoots a wolf. Most people who get convicted wouldn't if everybody kept their mouth shut.

It's SSS for a reason, especially for the not too bright.

I am not a citizen of the USA, so I don't understand the politics you all have to deal with. Seems plenty frustrating. Especially the wingnut anti hunting wolf lover types messing with legislation. But here's a hopeful note, based on my experience.

We have had wolves and elk ( and all other game animals, and cattle and other livestock) coexisting with wolves all along. Wolves can be problematic neighbours, and because of that they DO need to be controlled and in some cases very selectively exterminated on a pack or small region basis. But wolves also add authenticity to wilderness, and if they are completely absent, some important part of nature is sadly missing. I hunted elk last week along with our local wolves. I'm pretty sure the wolves got a few over the past months, I got one a few days ago. i'm looking forward to enjoying elk for supper!

I'm not opposed to sharing our elk with a few wolves. But my buddy traps anywhere between 10-20 wolves on his trapline each winter. And our Saskatchewan hunters can take wolves with a license after October 15 (when the furs add some value to the hunt). Poison is not allowed here, and is not required. It is not allowed because it is a horrible way to control wolves, way too many non target animals and birds get killed and the wolves themselves are wasted. Trapping and hunting can and does control wolves, at least in our situation.

I wish you well with your wolf problems and legislative challenges. I also hope a few of you get the thrill of sharing good wild country with a few wolves. Its' not all bad.

You can only control wolves with trapping shooting from planes and many say poisoning is needed

No one on here said kill all the wolves only control their exploding growth

If your buddy trapped a wolf down here he and his family would targeted with death threats

Very very few states allow wolves to trapped and most states outlawed hunting wolves

I fish quite a bit up in Saskatchewan and goose hunt. Great folks up in your country

What if Canada shut down trapping hunting of wolves and farmers could not defend their livestock or your hunting dogs .huge fines and prison
What would your input be then?

I see BC just shut down grizz hunting. Wonder what they'll shut next up north?

I'm just passing along what I was told. I don't vouch for the accuracy of my statements. 😁 Either way, true or not, I really don't giveashit.

The lower 48 of the US is a different world from Canada and Alaska. We had wolves entirely exterminated, at least in the western half of the nation, for nearly 50 years. And nobody missed them, that actually lived, worked, and hunted here.

The plot to introduce the Canadian grey wolf to Idaho was leftist agenda driven. At that point in time, leftists believed it was hunters driving the fight for 2'nd amendment rights. Introducing wolves was simply a step toward eliminating big game hunting in the American west. It has since become apparent to most that the 2'nd Amendment is being fought for by many more than just hunters. But the $millions and $millions have already been spent and the puppy lovers have taken up for their poor unfortunate furry friends.

The real difference between the US lower 48 and Canada which I mentioned earlier is the demand for game hunting here. Our proportion of game to population is much lower. The human population has the means at their disposal to reach and control the population of any game herd in the Rocky Mountains.

Any overpopulated herd can quickly be brought under control just by issuing more tags. We have no need for another apex predator, other than man.

Since the introduction of the Canadian wolves to Idaho, elk herds are being depleted in many parts of the state. Over the counter elk tags have been eliminated in many units, and draw tags issued on quota. Numerous back country outfitters have been driven out of business as the elk just are not available for their clients any longer.

In my particulr favorite hunting area, the wolves have driven the elk herd down out of the mountain slopes (public lands) and down into valley floor and private land, where they are inaccessable to the public. Unless one pays huge access fees to get onto the ranches.

Have seen wolves up by Crater Lake but also inland just 50 miles or so from the Pacific Ocean Beaches...

F&W saying they aren't here are just some more bureaucratic lies to the public..

they know they are here, but don't want the public to know, so they won't panic...

Every time I see a poster on a corner phone pole about some lady's cat or poodle missing..

you know the darn thing is either coyote or wolf crap somewhere in the woods nearby...

Ribka quote
''What if Canada shut down trapping hunting of wolves and farmers could not defend their livestock or your hunting dogs .huge fines and prison
What would your input be then?

I see BC just shut down grizz hunting. Wonder what they'll shut next up north?''
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I could be wrong but it seems like you think castandblast is verbally attacking us ?

I read his post to fully agree with wolf hunting trapping and aerial shooting [wipe out small region comment] except he didn't like the idea of poison .

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Said this more than once , I called in a wolf in SW Idaho Owyhee Desert in 2007 , I've saw a dead steer eaten with so many wolf tracks around it you couldn't count them all , and a mule deer too .
Ranchers in the area will tell you they have always been there .

Go to google earth click on tools , select measure . select miles , then click/measure extreme sw idaho to extreme ne california = 160ish miles the way the crow flies .
A collared wolf from the boise pack was killed by a car 30-40 miles south of Pendelton , Oregon back around 2005 . I lived in Boise [meridian] in 2007-2008 it was old news then , no doubt in my mind that they could have tasted water from the pacific ocean by now ..
Talk about a wolf haven california , say hello to no big game animals/hunting for many years .