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Anybody using one of these? They appear awful nice. Wonder how they shoot?
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No experience with them other than looking them over but if it is a Cooper it will shoot. I think they still have their accuracy guarantee and will provide targets to prove it. May be rumor but ask what the range was on the test targets, the rumor was they were at 50 yards which is fine as long as they don't say it was at 100.
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50 yards, and indoors IIRC.
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Thats exactly how I shoot all my animals!!!
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Badass rifles...very light and it's a Cooper so it'll shoot better then most guys are capable of.
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I wouldn't get too wrapped up in the test target being shot at 50yds. From what I've seen for test targets they are all one hole groups. So doubling the group size to get to 100yds is still going to produce a tiny group.
As far as indoors vs outdoors. Which would give a better indication of how the rifle will shoot?
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More a marketing ploy than anything. I've got a .221 Fireball Cooper with one of those laminated targets and there is no mention of the distance that they shot it. I looked into it once and I thought it was like at 34 yards in an underground tunnel if I remember right. A nice rifle though.
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I always have to chuckle when folks get in an uproar over the Cooper test target.
First lets deal with some facts - when Cooper was in their old facility the targets were shot a slightly less than 50 yds, in the new facility the targets are shot at a measured 50 yds. The targets are shot in an indoor range off of sandbags using a 36X Leupold. Why am I so sure of this? Because I have been in the shooting range in both the old and new facilities. Secondly Cooper guarantees their centerfires to shoot 1/2" three shot groups at 100 yds, it really doesn't matter what the test target looks like - the guarantee is in their literature, posted on their website and they back it up, if the rifle doesn't shoot to guarantee they fix it.
Thirdly -I have owned quite a few Coopers, both centerfire and rimfire and have never had one that did not meet the accuracy guarantee and with most of mine I have shot groups at 100 yds as small as the test target.
Fourth - Most shooters assume that because the rifle is capable of shooting 1/2" groups that they can shoot 1/2" groups - the fact is that to shoot consistent 1/2" groups there is more required than just the rifle.
IMO they are hard to beat for a dollar value, particularly if one shops carefully gently used ones can be found at reasonable prices for a semi-custom guaranteed shooter.
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I always have to chuckle when folks get in an uproar over the Cooper test target.
First lets deal with some facts - when Cooper was in their old facility the targets were shot a slightly less than 50 yds, in the new facility the targets are shot at a measured 50 yds. The targets are shot in an indoor range off of sandbags using a 36X Leupold. Why am I so sure of this? Because I have been in the shooting range in both the old and new facilities. Secondly Cooper guarantees their centerfires to shoot 1/2" three shot groups at 100 yds, it really doesn't matter what the test target looks like - the guarantee is in their literature, posted on their website and they back it up, if the rifle doesn't shoot to guarantee they fix it.
Thirdly -I have owned quite a few Coopers, both centerfire and rimfire and have never had one that did not meet the accuracy guarantee and with most of mine I have shot groups at 100 yds as small as the test target.
Fourth - Most shooters assume that because the rifle is capable of shooting 1/2" groups that they can shoot 1/2" groups - the fact is that to shoot consistent 1/2" groups there is more required than just the rifle.
IMO they are hard to beat for a dollar value, particularly if one shops carefully gently used ones can be found at reasonable prices for a semi-custom guaranteed shooter.
drover Well said. The rifles do what they claim in the accuracy department. Count me as another satisfied repeat customer.
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I always have to chuckle when folks get in an uproar over the Cooper test target.
First lets deal with some facts - when Cooper was in their old facility the targets were shot a slightly less than 50 yds, in the new facility the targets are shot at a measured 50 yds. The targets are shot in an indoor range off of sandbags using a 36X Leupold. Why am I so sure of this? Because I have been in the shooting range in both the old and new facilities. Secondly Cooper guarantees their centerfires to shoot 1/2" three shot groups at 100 yds, it really doesn't matter what the test target looks like - the guarantee is in their literature, posted on their website and they back it up, if the rifle doesn't shoot to guarantee they fix it.
Thirdly -I have owned quite a few Coopers, both centerfire and rimfire and have never had one that did not meet the accuracy guarantee and with most of mine I have shot groups at 100 yds as small as the test target.
Fourth - Most shooters assume that because the rifle is capable of shooting 1/2" groups that they can shoot 1/2" groups - the fact is that to shoot consistent 1/2" groups there is more required than just the rifle.
IMO they are hard to beat for a dollar value, particularly if one shops carefully gently used ones can be found at reasonable prices for a semi-custom guaranteed shooter.
drover Well said. The rifles do what they claim in the accuracy department. Count me as another satisfied repeat customer. Another satisfied repeat customer here!
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More a marketing ploy than anything. I've got a .221 Fireball Cooper with one of those laminated targets and there is no mention of the distance that they shot it. I looked into it once and I thought it was like at 34 yards in an underground tunnel if I remember right. A nice rifle though. How accurate is your rifle?
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