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If you study history, walls have always been a target for invaders and they usually find a way in. This one won't be any exception.
“In a time of deceit telling the truth is a revolutionary act.”
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Screw the walls, set up secure guard towers every couple hundred yards. Let folks do a tag draw kinda like they do for elk and stuff out west. Cheap, effective and the stuff of many tales around the campfire.
I feel no love or mercy for those invading our country. Zero. Nada. Don't give a flip where you're from...........if you don't like your county, get off your sorry ass and fix it. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^EVERY DAMN BIT OF THAT!!!!!^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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Screw the walls, set up secure guard towers every couple hundred yards. Let folks do a tag draw kinda like they do for elk and stuff out west. Cheap, effective and the stuff of many tales around the campfire.
I feel no love or mercy for those invading our country. Zero. Nada. Don't give a flip where you're from...........if you don't like your county, get off your sorry ass and fix it. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^EVERY DAMN BIT OF THAT!!!!!^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ PREACH IT!
A good principle to guide me through life: “This is all I have come to expect, standard lackluster performance. Trust nothing, believe no one and realize it will only get worse…”
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Screw the walls, set up secure guard towers every couple hundred yards. Let folks do a tag draw kinda like they do for elk and stuff out west. Cheap, effective and the stuff of many tales around the campfire.
All fun and games until they start shooting back!!! From what I've read/seen, Mexican Cartels are well equipped and prone to violence........
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Screw the walls, set up secure guard towers every couple hundred yards. Let folks do a tag draw kinda like they do for elk and stuff out west. Cheap, effective and the stuff of many tales around the campfire. All fun and games until they start shooting back!!! From what I've read/seen, Mexican Cartels are well equipped and prone to violence........ True, but so is the US Army, Navy, Airforce, Marines... I have more faith in their abilities to visit conflict-ending violence on their targets than the I do in the Mexican Cartels.  John
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Screw the walls, set up secure guard towers every couple hundred yards. Let folks do a tag draw kinda like they do for elk and stuff out west. Cheap, effective and the stuff of many tales around the campfire.
All fun and games until they start shooting back!!! From what I've read/seen, Mexican Cartels are well equipped and prone to violence........ Funny chitt you say, I've been shot at a few times in my life. Guess who won.
I am..........disturbed.
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Screw the walls, set up secure guard towers every couple hundred yards. Let folks do a tag draw kinda like they do for elk and stuff out west. Cheap, effective and the stuff of many tales around the campfire. All fun and games until they start shooting back!!! From what I've read/seen, Mexican Cartels are well equipped and prone to violence........ True, but so is the US Army, Navy, Airforce, Marines... I have more faith in their abilities to visit conflict-ending violence on their targets than the I do in the Mexican Cartels. John If you read the quote I replied to, DD wasn't talking about staffing the "towers" with military.....
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Screw the walls, set up secure guard towers every couple hundred yards. Let folks do a tag draw kinda like they do for elk and stuff out west. Cheap, effective and the stuff of many tales around the campfire.
All fun and games until they start shooting back!!! From what I've read/seen, Mexican Cartels are well equipped and prone to violence........ Funny chitt you say, I've been shot at a few times in my life. Guess who won. Maybe so, but your suggestion is still foolish......one or two guys up in a tower would be sitting ducks with the firepower the cartels have.
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Seriously? Screw the walls, set up secure guard towers every couple hundred yards. Let folks do a tag draw kinda like they do for elk and stuff out west. Cheap, effective and the stuff of many tales around the campfire.
All fun and games until they start shooting back!!! From what I've read/seen, Mexican Cartels are well equipped and prone to violence........ Funny chitt you say, I've been shot at a few times in my life. Guess who won. Maybe so, but your suggestion is still foolish......one or two guys up in a tower would be sitting ducks with the firepower the cartels have.
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If you study history, walls have always been a target for invaders and they usually find a way in. This one won't be any exception. Absolutely disagree. Walls have worked for thousands of years to keep folks from passing thru... Of course a full military assualt would necessitate other defenses but pancho and jose would be unable to simply hoof it across and that is why it's a necessary part of the solution.
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Nothing says the wall has to be cotinuous... just enough to funnel illegals onto places easier to protect.
Mark Begich, Joaquin Jackson, and Heller resistance... Three huge reasons to worry about the NRA.
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If you study history, walls have always been a target for invaders and they usually find a way in. This one won't be any exception. Absolutely disagree. Walls have worked for thousands of years to keep folks from passing thru... Of course a full military assualt would necessitate other defenses but pancho and jose would be unable to simply hoof it across and that is why it's a necessary part of the solution. I'm with Boomer on this one. If you're out on your boat duck hunting and you accidentally blast a hole in the bottom with a 12ga, the first thing you do is try to plug the hole with something to slow it down first. Then try to bail it out. Without the wall, they just run across with nothing to slow them down. It might not stop all, but it'll stop the majority.
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Nothing says the wall has to be cotinuous... just enough to funnel illegals onto places easier to protect. AKA shooting lanes.
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mines, lots and lots of mines
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Seriously? Screw the walls, set up secure guard towers every couple hundred yards. Let folks do a tag draw kinda like they do for elk and stuff out west. Cheap, effective and the stuff of many tales around the campfire.
All fun and games until they start shooting back!!! From what I've read/seen, Mexican Cartels are well equipped and prone to violence........ Funny chitt you say, I've been shot at a few times in my life. Guess who won. Maybe so, but your suggestion is still foolish......one or two guys up in a tower would be sitting ducks with the firepower the cartels have. Yes, seriously......do a little research, the Mexican drug cartels are very well armed, up to and including RPGs and armored vehicles......do as Digital Dan suggests and put ol' Cooter and Joe Bob in a tower with their deer rifles and see how long they last if against a drug cartel looking to move drugs across the border..... https://www.wired.com/2012/11/cartel-weapons/
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Seriously? No really.....
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If we could put .mil on the border, and turn them loose, problem solved. Believe me, the cartels could not last a couple minutes against the full might of our military.
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Hell yah let's light 'em up!
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There is a lot of the Border that only has a barbed wire fence and NO road access. A wall is only a tool but a very good one IF YOU PUT BOOTS ON THE GROUND WATCHING IT.
One of my ranching friends has 10.5 miles of Border with Mexico. DHS has spent 42 million on infrastructure on his ranch. Ground sensors, permanent camera towers, mobile radar units and fencing. In the the last 5 years 42 trucks have cut down the 13’ fence and driven the three miles to the highway, unloaded their dope and returned to Mexico. All in broad daylight. Twice they even welded the wall back in place.
Lately the Cartels have stopped all people traffic. If you want out of Mexico you pay or pack dope.
The new Joint Field Commander for the Tucson sector recently had a press conference in which he stated that he would be detailing a lot more agents to the actual Border. Yahoo. We have been begging for this for close to 30 years. If they would have listened then every town in America wouldn’t be a Border town today.
Enjoyed lots of the comments and will get off my soapbox now.
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