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I have a thread asking this question on the Hunting Optics sub forum, but I'm not getting a lot of response there. I hope it is alright to cross post to here. I am picking a Winchester 70 Classic stainless featherweight in a McMillan featherweight stock in 270. Trying to figure out what to scope it with.

Will be using the rifle out of the truck some with most use being walking and stalking pigs late evening on the ranch. So I want a relatively light scope with good low light performance. Also needs to be durable because while it won't be abused, it could see some rough handling.

The scopes I am considering are the Leica ERI 2.5-10x42, Swaro Z3 3-9, or maybe the VX5 2-10. Was hoping for some opinions on those. Particularly interested in hearing thoughts on how the VX-5 stacks up against the others as it is hard to find much info on it. Also, the other thread had someone mention the Meopta fixed 6x42 as an option and that is an interesting one. Though I don't know how well it stacks up against the other more known quantity brands.

Appreciate the opinions of everybody offered up and curious if there are any other options I'm missing that I should consider. Would like to keep this below $1,000. Thanks for the help.

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I apologize since this isn't on your list, but I'd suggest a trijicon accupoint for what you're doing. They are durable, light weight, and have an illuminated POA that does not require batteries.


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A fixed 6x would be my choice.


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I have an M70 .270 push feed XTR that came with a McMillan stock. I put a 3z9 Burris Fullfield on it and it works just fine. Looks good too. Two actual M70 Featherweights, a .257 Bob has a 3x9 Leupold and the 7x57 has a 2x7 Leupold. Looks even better than the .257 Bob.Those two are push feeds as well. All work as they should.
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Those are all nice scopes you are considering. The edge goes to Leica ERi for low light performance by a good margin.

If you wanted something extremely rugged in holding zero a SWFA SS 3X9X42 HD is a good choice. it does have huge exposed turrets though which may be a negative for what you want. I would however trust it to hold zero in rough use better than anything else you listed and better than most scopes under $1200. SWFA usually sells them for $400 on black Friday

Another nice scope you might consider is the Vortex Razor HD LD 2-10X40. Personally I think the glass is better than the Leica you list or the Swaro. They are made by LOW in Japan.I expect good build quality but they are fairly new and just haven't been tested enough to say for sure.

I doubt the build quality of Leupold more every day.

You might possibly find a Swaro Z5 used under $1000. If you can find one with the newer style plex reticle it is a great low light scope and built with an upgraded erector system over the Z3 series.

You might consider a TRACT. They have been getting pretty good reviews.


I think this one will be my next scope purchase. It isn't exactly light,but I am beginning to believe that light and durable just don't go together. I have no experience with this scope at all but I like all the features it has and it has been getting great reviews,the few that are available,that is. It has everything I want personally in a hunting scope.
https://www.trijicon.com/na_en/products/product3.php?pid=TR26-C-200104

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Originally Posted by R_H_Clark
Those are all nice scopes you are considering. The edge goes to Leica ERi for low light performance by a good margin.

If you wanted something extremely rugged in holding zero a SWFA SS 3X9X42 HD is a good choice. it does have huge exposed turrets though which may be a negative for what you want. I would however trust it to hold zero in rough use better than anything else you listed and better than most scopes under $1200. SWFA usually sells them for $400 on black Friday

Another nice scope you might consider is the Vortex Razor HD LD 2-10X40. Personally I think the glass is better than the Leica you list or the Swaro. They are made by LOW in Japan.I expect good build quality but they are fairly new and just haven't been tested enough to say for sure.

I doubt the build quality of Leupold more every day.

You might possibly find a Swaro Z5 used under $1000. If you can find one with the newer style plex reticle it is a great low light scope and built with an upgraded erector system over the Z3 series.

You might consider a TRACT. They have been getting pretty good reviews.


I think this one will be my next scope purchase. It isn't exactly light,but I am beginning to believe that light and durable just don't go together. I have no experience with this scope at all but I like all the features it has and it has been getting great reviews,the few that are available,that is. It has everything I want personally in a hunting scope.
https://www.trijicon.com/na_en/products/product3.php?pid=TR26-C-200104



For the world of me I do not understand why anyone would put such clunky monstrosities on a slim hunting rifle.


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Originally Posted by JSTUART
Originally Posted by R_H_Clark
Those are all nice scopes you are considering. The edge goes to Leica ERi for low light performance by a good margin.

If you wanted something extremely rugged in holding zero a SWFA SS 3X9X42 HD is a good choice. it does have huge exposed turrets though which may be a negative for what you want. I would however trust it to hold zero in rough use better than anything else you listed and better than most scopes under $1200. SWFA usually sells them for $400 on black Friday

Another nice scope you might consider is the Vortex Razor HD LD 2-10X40. Personally I think the glass is better than the Leica you list or the Swaro. They are made by LOW in Japan.I expect good build quality but they are fairly new and just haven't been tested enough to say for sure.

I doubt the build quality of Leupold more every day.

You might possibly find a Swaro Z5 used under $1000. If you can find one with the newer style plex reticle it is a great low light scope and built with an upgraded erector system over the Z3 series.

You might consider a TRACT. They have been getting pretty good reviews.


I think this one will be my next scope purchase. It isn't exactly light,but I am beginning to believe that light and durable just don't go together. I have no experience with this scope at all but I like all the features it has and it has been getting great reviews,the few that are available,that is. It has everything I want personally in a hunting scope.
https://www.trijicon.com/na_en/products/product3.php?pid=TR26-C-200104



For the world of me I do not understand why anyone would put such clunky monstrosities on a slim hunting rifle.



Two that I suggested are anything but clunky monstrosities. I guess you missed that though.

I simply suggest some picks I might make,which I think is about all that can be expected.

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I know someone that has a Swaro AV 3-9x36 #4 reticle on theirs(270 win ) stainless classic with a edge stock and it balances perfectly. I would pick that a Leupold fixed 6x 36MM, Meopta 6x42 or a Swarovski Z3 3.5-10x42 for that rifle.

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Which one's made in the USA?
Question answered for me.

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I have a Leupold 6X x 36 on my Stainless Classic. Perfect IMHO.

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Originally Posted by winchester70
Which one's made in the USA?
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Which one? I guess it doesn't matter if the lenses are made in Japan.

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I have two featherweight .270's one with a 3-9 Swarovski and the other with a fixed 6x Swarovski. Both scopes weigh the same but I prefer the brightness of the fixed 6

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In classic campfire tradition I am going to ignore the choices you seek advice on and recommend a Leupold 6x36

You can thank me later. smile

Oh and mount it in dual dovetail rings


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Ive done a lot of trim M70's - go with the 6x36 or 3-9x36 Swaro.

My McMillan stocked Fwt is heading out for mule deer this weekend with a 6x36 LRD on top.


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If you can afford it, I'd go with the Swarovski 3-9x36 Z3 or maybe even a 3-10x42. Very light and excellent glass... I had an older Swaro on my light 338WM and is was pretty svelte.


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I'm leaning towards the Swarovski 3.5-10 right now. I have a 3-9 on a kimber Montana that has done well for me. Just kinda intrigued by the Leica and new VX-5. Y'all know how it is, you just get a desire for something a little different some times.

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Originally Posted by irfubar
In classic campfire tradition I am going to ignore the choices you seek advice on and recommend a Leupold 6x36

You can thank me later. smile

Oh and mount it in dual dovetail rings


Definitely agree with dual dovetails even as much as I like Talleys. Seems the spacing is more forgiving and they look "cleaner", not to mention damn tough. Don't forget to grease the dovetail if you do. I'm Elmer Fudd as scopes go on my M70, VXII 3x9. Pretty boring.

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My recommendation is a Swaro Z3 2.5-10x42.

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A zeiss 3-9x40 conquest of a Leupold fixed 6x woukd be my choice.

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Originally Posted by irfubar
In classic campfire tradition I am going to ignore the choices you seek advice on and recommend a Leupold 6x36

You can thank me later. smile

Oh and mount it in dual dovetail rings

This. Back to the KISS principle.



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