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A 22 Creedmoor in SAAMI guise? Any insider info? Or educated guesses?

I'm sure it will work its way down 257 Creed, 6mm Creed, .....

The 6 Creed is already reality.

.22 creedmore is probably already created and they likely have a roll out strategy..... be nice to see a factory .22 tth, .22 middlestead etc. type of cartridge come from the factory.

What happened to the last best cartridge; 338 Lapua?

The 5% that have to have the "latest and greatest" have already bought it, the other 95% bought everything else which included a list of top 10 selling cartridges that many have been on the same list for decades.

I guess that's my point and I am stuck in the "There isn't much new in the last 100 years" crowd...

Maybe the thread was intended to be tongue in cheek....but dont we already have a .22 Creedmoore?

If it was tongue in cheek......I apologize.

It certainly won't be a .30 caliber Creedmore which is the .30T/C or maybe they will just re-name the .30TC to .30 Creedmore. Remember the 7mm Express Remington/ 280 name change by Remington and back to .280 Remington again.

I am betting on a 25 Creed....or at least I hope so.

I am betting against a .25 Creedmoor, except as a wildcat, for the same reason not many new 25's appear anymore: The twist-rate of .25's has been 1-10 (or even slower) for so long that all mainstream hunting bullets are designed for a 1-10. Consequently even the highest-BC .25 bullets don't come anywhere near the ballistic coefficients of heavier 6mm and 6.5mm bullets, so the 6mm and 6.5mm Creedmoor cover all the bases that would be covered with a .25 Creedmoor--since both also work fine with typical .25-caliber bullet weights.

All this stuff about high BC's may seem irrelevant to many deer hunters, but it's exactly why the 6.5 Creedmoor was developed, and why it appeals both to target shooters and some hunters. A .25 Creedmoor wouldn't go anywhere with target shooters, and probably not with many younger hunters.

In fact, the .25 Creedmoor has been around for years, in the form of various .250 Savage improved rounds. The RCBS version came closest, with a 28-degree shoulder, but the 40-degree Ackley version also comes pretty close. Yet as far as I know, no rifle or ammo company has even considered commercializing either round.

Plus, .25's have been slipping in sales for many years. Aside from occasional "special runs" for nostalgia fans, the .257 Roberts is just about dead--again. The .25-06 has been dropped as a standard chambering by a number of bolt-action manufacturers, at least partly because the 6.5 Creedmoor has taken away a lot of its market share.

I would guess the .257 Weatherby is probably the best-selling .25 caliber hunting cartridge right now. The 6.5-300 Weatherby may take away some of its market share, but many hunters who prefer ultra-high muzzle velocities rather than ultra-high BC's still buy plenty of .257 Weatherbys.

As a long-time marketing guy, I’d enjoy the challenge of launching a Creedmoor derivative that does not follow the previous patterns of “target round first” product positioning. Why not a Creedmoor marketed to hunters?

And what better than a .257 with new bullets like a re-introduced 110gr GMX, 120gr Interbond and 125-130gr ELD-X to go in rifles with a 1:9, or even better, 1:8 twist? What a deer/antelope combo these would make!

How about essentially duplicating 8x57 ballistics with some new bullets to go along with the new 8mm Creedmoor? A low-recoiling .323 cal would make a great elk, bear, moose and hog round from the Creedmoor case.