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https://www.thedailybeast.com/devin-patrick-kelley-idd-as-sutherland-springs-church-killerYou will find a photo from his Facebook page here. It will not let me link to the pic itself. His bad conduct discharge stems from his assault on his wife and kid. He was confined, and discharged.
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Domestic abuse (assaulted his first wife and child). Court martial, busted to E-1, and served 12 months.
His second (current wife) is related to folks from Sutherland Springs whom attend the church.
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So perhaps we should ask why an individual with a dishonorable discharge from the Military should be allowed to purchase a Modern Sporting Rifle? Perhaps we need a little more screening of folks? Do you seriously not know that someone with a DD cannot legally purchase a firearm, or are you pointing out he illegally possessed it?
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Interestingly, Devin Patrick Kelley was court martialed for assault on wife and child.
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So why should we let them have guns? Have you never filled out a 4473, or just too stupid to remember all the boxes? Either way, you have no business here.
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So why should we let them have guns? Who is we, and who is they? Good questions. I won't hold my breath waiting for him to answer.
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So perhaps we should ask why an individual with a dishonorable discharge from the Military should be allowed to purchase a Modern Sporting Rifle? Perhaps we need a little more screening of folks? Do you seriously not know that someone with a DD cannot legally purchase a firearm, or are you pointing out he illegally possessed it? He is trying quite successfully to prove what a dumbass he is.
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So perhaps we should ask why an individual with a dishonorable discharge from the Military should be allowed to purchase a Modern Sporting Rifle? Perhaps we need a little more screening of folks? Do you seriously not know that someone with a DD cannot legally purchase a firearm, or are you pointing out he illegally possessed it? He didn't have a Dishonorable Discharge.
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Real men look for real solutions, not the typical knee jerk responses you guys repeat again and again with the situation getting worse and worse. Obviously more good guys with guns is not solving the problem. Weeding out the crazies, malcontents and dishonorably discharged needs to be tested and evaluated. Just think, I said that without using disparaging childish language. This forum could use more civility. And yet your knee jerk reaction always seems to be sounding like a liberal khount?
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If you put Taco Bell sauce in your ramen noodles it tastes just like poverty
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Most of them here do! My Baptist Church allows it and I do. Always! ... About six years ago, we went to the ex wives [b]Methodist Church. They banned carry there[/b] and I never attended that Church again! ..." That is not surprising. The hierarchy of the United Methodist Church was a co-founder of Handgun Control, Inc., many years ago. Its policy thereafter has been to crusade for and support the banning and confiscation of our firearms. I was raised a Methodist. Haven't been in many years and have no intention of ever going back. L.W. We go to a UMC that has an organized security team, which I'm part of. Almost everyone on the team is armed, as is our preacher. This kind of mess will necessitate more if the same. Prayers for those folks in Texas.
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So perhaps we should ask why an individual with a dishonorable discharge from the Military should be allowed to purchase a Modern Sporting Rifle? Perhaps we need a little more screening of folks? Do you seriously not know that someone with a DD cannot legally purchase a firearm, or are you pointing out he illegally possessed it? He didn't have a Dishonorable Discharge. I see that's what's being reported now. First reports I saw did say DD.
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So perhaps we should ask why an individual with a dishonorable discharge from the Military should be allowed to purchase a Modern Sporting Rifle? Perhaps we need a little more screening of folks? Do you seriously not know that someone with a DD cannot legally purchase a firearm, or are you pointing out he illegally possessed it? He is trying quite successfully to prove what a dumbass he is. This liberal cock has been showing his liberal stripes for some time now.
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Methodist Church is a part of the World Council of Churches ( along with the Catholic Church) which is against the 2A.
Ecc 10:2 The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but that of a fool to the left.
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I am a citizen of the United States as most of you are. I am not afraid of the Government because I am the Government. I have been a commissioned law enforcement officer and have seen many gun possessors who should have been prevented from having one.
It is time to stop this BS that is is us verses them. It is all of us together, and as citizens we need to say who can legitably have guns and who shouldn’t.
You like to write me off as a liberal. I have been a life member of the NRA since 1966. I am a a qualified Master shooter in High Power competition, Sharpshooter in pistol competition and I also shoot skeet and sporting clays. I own two farms and have private rifle and pistol ranges set up on my land. I belong to two shooting clubs. I have three kids who hunt deer and I hunt deer, elk and upland birds every year.
I happen to believe that as citizens we should prove we are qualified to keep and bear arms. If we are not qualified we shouldn’t be allowed to have them. That’s where “well regulated militia” kicks in IMHO.
I am an elitist. There are a bunch of black and brown guys who should not have guns, but there are a bunch of white guys who shouldn’t have them either. The shooter in Texas and the one in Las Vegas are cases in point. Don’t tell me that deeper screening wouldn’t have brought up questions on these two shooters. No, it wouldn’t have stopped all, but it would stop some.
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Is there another picture that shows the barrel length of the rifle in question? Then LE said they could not confirm that the gun in the picture was the one used. SBR used?
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The AR posted in the shooters Facebook page appears to be a SBR. It's shown with a Magpul collapsible stock and a 40 round Pmag. Like I said in a previous post, I seriously doubt that it had a Federal Tax Stamp. I doubt most Perps care if their gun is legal or not.
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I am a citizen of the United States as most of you are. I am not afraid of the Government because I am the Government. I have been a commissioned law enforcement officer and have seen many gun possessors who should have been prevented from having one.
It is time to stop this BS that is is us verses them. It is all of us together, and as citizens we need to say who can legitably have guns and who shouldn’t.
You like to write me off as a liberal. I have been a life member of the NRA since 1966. I am a a qualified Master shooter in High Power competition, Sharpshooter in pistol competition and I also shoot skeet and sporting clays. I own two farms and have private rifle and pistol ranges set up on my land. I belong to two shooting clubs. I have three kids who hunt deer and I hunt deer, elk and upland birds every year.
I happen to believe that as citizens we should prove we are qualified to keep and bear arms. If we are not qualified we shouldn’t be allowed to have them. That’s where “well regulated militia” kicks in IMHO.
I am an elitist. There are a bunch of black and brown guys who should not have guns, but there are a bunch of white guys who shouldn’t have them either. The shooter in Texas and the one in Las Vegas are cases in point. Don’t tell me that deeper screening wouldn’t have brought up questions on these two shooters. No, it wouldn’t have stopped all, but it would stop some. I've never thought of you as a liberal, just an idiot.
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I am a citizen of the United States as most of you are. I am not afraid of the Government because I am the Government. I have been a commissioned law enforcement officer and have seen many gun possessors who should have been prevented from having one.
It is time to stop this BS that is is us verses them. It is all of us together, and as citizens we need to say who can legitably have guns and who shouldn’t.
You like to write me off as a liberal. I have been a life member of the NRA since 1966. I am a a qualified Master shooter in High Power competition, Sharpshooter in pistol competition and I also shoot skeet and sporting clays. I own two farms and have private rifle and pistol ranges set up on my land. I belong to two shooting clubs. I have three kids who hunt deer and I hunt deer, elk and upland birds every year.
I happen to believe that as citizens we should prove we are qualified to keep and bear arms. If we are not qualified we shouldn’t be allowed to have them. That’s where “well regulated militia” kicks in IMHO.
I am an elitist. There are a bunch of black and brown guys who should not have guns, but there are a bunch of white guys who shouldn’t have them either. The shooter in Texas and the one in Las Vegas are cases in point. Don’t tell me that deeper screening wouldn’t have brought up questions on these two shooters. No, it wouldn’t have stopped all, but it would stop some. If what you type is true you are worse and more dangerous than a know nothing liberal. I doubt very much that you are a conservative. With all your typings and musings here you being part of the .gov is not much of a surprise. Oh yeah, I'm sorry if I hurt your feelings......Lol.
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