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In classic campfire tradition I am going to ignore the choices you seek advice on and recommend a Leupold 6x36 You can thank me later. Oh and mount it in dual dovetail rings Definitely agree with dual dovetails even as much as I like Talleys. Seems the spacing is more forgiving and they look "cleaner", not to mention damn tough. Don't forget to grease the dovetail if you do. I'm Elmer Fudd as scopes go on my M70, VXII 3x9. Pretty boring. I agree, dual dovetails for sure...
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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I really don't believe you can beat the swaro z3 3-9x36 or 3-10x42 for a hunting rifle.
If someone thinks you can exponentially beat their low light performance, they must not have used them. The glass is top notch, slim and light scopes. Assembled here in Maine, built in Europe. Grab some talley lightweight low ringmounts. You'd be hard pressed to beat that setup.
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In classic campfire tradition I am going to ignore the choices you seek advice on and recommend a Leupold 6x36
You can thank me later. Oh and mount it in dual dovetail rings +3 That is what is on my own .270 Win.
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Leupold FX-3 6x42 on my 270 Win...see no need for anything else
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I really don't believe you can beat the swaro z3 3-9x36 or 3-10x42 for a hunting rifle.
If someone thinks you can exponentially beat their low light performance, they must not have used them. The glass is top notch, slim and light scopes. Assembled here in Maine, built in Europe. Grab some talley lightweight low ringmounts. You'd be hard pressed to beat that setup. You could make a shot longer into the evening with the Leica ERi but the Swaros should surly take you to legal light.
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I really don't believe you can beat the swaro z3 3-9x36 or 3-10x42 for a hunting rifle.
If someone thinks you can exponentially beat their low light performance, they must not have used them. The glass is top notch, slim and light scopes. Assembled here in Maine, built in Europe. Grab some talley lightweight low ringmounts. You'd be hard pressed to beat that setup. You could make a shot longer into the evening with the Leica ERi but the Swaros should surly take you to legal light. Well with pigs there isn't a legal shooting. Anything goes with pigs. How much difference is there between the Leica and swarovski? Also, on the mounts would low talleys work on the 3-10 Swarovski? I have lows on my kimber with the 3-9 and that scope barely seems to fit.
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Talley lows will work will a 40mm bell. Did you happen to just purchase that rifle off Gunbroker? Sounds a lot like one I saw listed on there.
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I really don't believe you can beat the swaro z3 3-9x36 or 3-10x42 for a hunting rifle.
If someone thinks you can exponentially beat their low light performance, they must not have used them. The glass is top notch, slim and light scopes. Assembled here in Maine, built in Europe. Grab some talley lightweight low ringmounts. You'd be hard pressed to beat that setup. You could make a shot longer into the evening with the Leica ERi but the Swaros should surly take you to legal light. Well with pigs there isn't a legal shooting. Anything goes with pigs. How much difference is there between the Leica and swarovski? Also, on the mounts would low talleys work on the 3-10 Swarovski? I have lows on my kimber with the 3-9 and that scope barely seems to fit. What is "barely seems to fit" ? You should have plenty of room with a 36mm scope
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Well what I mean by barely fits is with it on a bikini scope cover doesn't want to fit between the scope and barrel. But I also have it mounted a little farther back.
Also, yeah. I found it on gunbroker.
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Well what I mean by barely fits is with it on a bikini scope cover doesn't want to fit between the scope and barrel. But I also have it mounted a little farther back.
Also, yeah. I found it on gunbroker. so 6mm more in objective diameter would be 0.23622 added , I have never had a problem mounting a 3.5-10x42 on a few different rifles , none with a varmint diameter barrel though.
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I tend to shoot more from field positions than from a stand or bench. So my natural shooting position tends to have my head a little further back as opposed to hunched over the rifle. So I like the scope slid back. And it works, just the scope cover doesn't go all the way under the scope and between the scope and barrel. Not going to say I even have it all set up right. But I know it works and works well for me right now.
Just dropped a pig Monday evening that was running across the side of a hill. The side of the hill has a series of washes down the slope. So as the pig was running away he was popping in and out of view. Dropped him with a shot through both shoulders as he was popping up passing between washes. Went straight down with the 160 gr partition out of the 280 AI. This was right at dark with him in sight for maybe a second at most while running. So again, I may not have it set up "right" but it works well for me. That set up is working really well snap shooting like that.
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I really don't believe you can beat the swaro z3 3-9x36 or 3-10x42 for a hunting rifle.
If someone thinks you can exponentially beat their low light performance, they must not have used them. The glass is top notch, slim and light scopes. Assembled here in Maine, built in Europe. Grab some talley lightweight low ringmounts. You'd be hard pressed to beat that setup. You could make a shot longer into the evening with the Leica ERi but the Swaros should surly take you to legal light. Well with pigs there isn't a legal shooting. Anything goes with pigs. How much difference is there between the Leica and swarovski? Also, on the mounts would low talleys work on the 3-10 Swarovski? I have lows on my kimber with the 3-9 and that scope barely seems to fit. The Leica ERi excels at low light hunting. I bought the 2.5-10X42 model and compared it to a Swaro Z5 ,a friends Z3 a couple Leupolds, Zeiss Conquest 3X9X40. All the scopes took me to the end of legal light with the Swaros being the best. I would say that the extra magnification of the Z5 helped at longer distance as the light dimmed to a point where I would loose the reticle. I could have killed a deer in the field by my house a little over 100 yards at 9pm with the Leica. That's as lat as I was out that night. I returned the Leica because of a few negatives. The dot was a bit large for long range. On low power the Leica I had had some tunneling. Worst of all on 2.5, which is where I tend to use these variables most of the time, the Leica had very blurry edges. I would say that about 20% of the picture was very blurry because of this edge issue. The edge was bad enough that you couldn't read a car tag at 20 yards if you kept it on the edge. The middle was great and this issue went away when you were up past 3X. I did play with the diopter adjustment to try to lessen it but was unsuccessful. It may have partially been an eye issue though because I could get rid of the tunneling by adjusting the diopter.I just couldn't have a crisp reticle for my eyes with it so adjusted. If I wanted a night scope or pure low light scope,I would go for the Leica ERi 3-12X50 model and not worry about the extra weight.
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Swaro 3-9x36 in Talley Lightweight Extra Lows, the extended front base isn't needed either.
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Swaro 3-9x36 in Talley Lightweight Extra Lows, the extended front base isn't needed either. Nope, no need for the extended front base... Should look similar to this set-up I had on my 338. These are lows though:
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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Front Talley flipped backwards has always been a pet peeve.....
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I like my scopes slid back. A Leupold FX-III 6x42 or VX-III 3.5x10 with a heavy duplex or post & duplex reticle. Both are good low light reticles. The VX-III 3.5x10 fits on long actions well if you need the scope set back more than most folks do.
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Front Talley flipped backwards has always been a pet peeve..... That's an H&H magnum action. No go on turning that front mount the other way. Sorry man... Besides, its better to keep that scope centered up in those rings...
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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My pick would be a Leupold 4x33. Second choice would be a Leupold 6x36.
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You're not going to get light scope with good low light performance for $1000 or less. The scope will be large,heavy and cost at least $2500. You need x56 objective, FMC top of the line glass plus illumination with fine intensity adjustment. The Swarovski brand is the gold standard for this.
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