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Have to pull some LRAB and have heard some collet dies will damage the jacket as they are very thin in the nose. I have also heard inertia pullers are bad for accuracy as the jacket core bond gets disrupted. So are there any alternatives? How about pliers with a piece of inner tube for padding.
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If they were just seated recently and there isn't a lot of neck tension, a collet die adjusted correctly will work fine. If I were really worried about it, I would use an inertia puller. I guarantee you that the bullet will see significantly higher G forces upon firing than during the pulling operation. It is a bonded bullet, so there will be no core separation. Even a standard cup and core should be able to survive without separation, I've never heard of that before. I usually shove a foam ear plug into the puller to protect the tip of the bullet. It will get deformed if you don't. Pliers is a recipe for disaster, you think a collet will damage but a pair of pliers won't?
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I agree with gzig5. Before "pulling" any, seat the bullet a little deeper in the case to break the crimp or neck/bullet bond. Doing this will make the pull much easier, and with a proper collet, not mark the bullet. Word of caution tho...if the bullets are seated so the neck/ojive meet, you may not have enough bullet body to grab with the collet, use an inertia instead, but do make sure the bullets are broken free. Good Luck
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Seat the bullet a tad deeper and use a collet die--just don't wrang down on the handle too tight........there's a sweet spot between squeezing the collet too tight or too loose.
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Inertia with a bit of padding so the nose doesn't get nerfed up has always worked for me.
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A standard C&C bullet may get disrupted by an inertia puller, but I seriously doubt your going to disrupt a bonded core bullet. As Blacktailer mentions, put some foam or cotton padding in the puller so you don't muck the point.
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Collet is faster for me than inertia. And it doesn't mess up the point.
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Grip n Pull is a great pullet. The jacket may be scuffed, but that will not affect anything.
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Grip n Pull is a great pullet. The jacket may be scuffed, but that will not affect anything. That thing is brilliant!
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Grip n Pull is a great pullet. The jacket may be scuffed, but that will not affect anything. That thing is brilliant! I do like mine, but I pinched my palms with it a bunch whilst learning its limitations. It greatly helps to bump the bullets a li'l deeper with the seating die, before employing the Grip-n-Pull. There just might be something to that, "cold welding" thing, after all. FC
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On the inertia hammer I cut a 3/4" piece of 5/16" fuel hose and place it in the bottom , the hole keeps the nose from damaging , try it !
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On the inertia hammer I cut a 3/4" piece of 5/16" fuel hose and place it in the bottom , the hole keeps the nose from damaging , try it !
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The grip and pull looks convenient. Didn't think about the bonding so might try the inertia puller until I get a new collet or the grip and pull. Bumping the bullet is a good idea especially older brass and all military loads. I actually broke an inertia hammer with NATO loads. I have mixed collet pulled with virgin bullets and saw no difference in accuracy.
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I use a hornady collet puller and it works fantastic.
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I use a hornady collet puller and it works fantastic.
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A standard C&C bullet may get disrupted by an inertia puller, but I seriously doubt your going to disrupt a bonded core bullet. As Blacktailer mentions, put some foam or cotton padding in the puller so you don't muck the point. When I use an inertial puller I put a single foam earplug in it to keep from battering the poor lil ol bullets' noses. I'm a bit put off the inertials these days since that post a while back about a primer going ka-blooey while residing in an inertial puller doing its thing, so I think I'll just quit pulling bullets altogether.
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I use foam in mine too, doesn’t hurt them at all. I have seen bullets advertised as air pulled. I wonder how they do that?
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I use a Hornady Collet puller and it works fantastic.
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I have seen bullets advertised as air pulled. I wonder how they do that? Cases are subjected to a vacuum. Best and fastest method for pull downs, bullets are almost like new.
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