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How Freudian that they drew that.....being the Navy and all..  Clyde
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He did that over a libtard city...he/crew will take in in the azz Wrong, he did it over a small conservative town, Omak.
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The Growler has no ability to create smoke like this and as I said, no Hornet (or frankly anyone else in TACAIR) is dumping gas to do this. The OKANOGAN MOA is a good distance across the Cascades from NAS Whidbey. Wx at Whidbey today was typical winter with three cloud layers. Not a place I want go go home skosh on fuel. IF they did do this by dumping then that's a whole new conversation on airmanship and one that is likely to result in some wing popping maneuvers (as in wings flying off these guys chests)
I'm about 99% sure that was done with the fuel dump, that's how we'd do stuff like that when I was flying C's and D's. If I remember right the dump rate was about 1000 lbs. a minute and that'd take a couple of minutes to do. Probably someone out doing a FCF (a post maintenance check flight) and had some extra gas to get rid of. I agree the bosses aren't going to be happy.
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The Growler has no ability to create smoke like this and as I said, no Hornet (or frankly anyone else in TACAIR) is dumping gas to do this. The OKANOGAN MOA is a good distance across the Cascades from NAS Whidbey. Wx at Whidbey today was typical winter with three cloud layers. Not a place I want go go home skosh on fuel. IF they did do this by dumping then that's a whole new conversation on airmanship and one that is likely to result in some wing popping maneuvers (as in wings flying off these guys chests)
I'm about 99% sure that was done with the fuel dump, that's how we'd do stuff like that when I was flying C's and D's. If I remember right the dump rate was about 1000 lbs. a minute and that'd take a couple of minutes to do. Probably someone out doing a FCF (a post maintenance check flight) and had some extra gas to get rid of. I agree the bosses aren't going to be happy. At Whidbey the FCF's were usually done in the Darrington Special use airspace which was over the mainland close to Whidbey. If it was a Pro D over Smith Island since you didn't have to go to altitude. I can't imagine anyone would go over the mountains to do a check. I can't image dumped fuel hanging in the air that long. It disperses pretty quickly and like I said, dumping overhead is one thing. Dumping that much gas that far from home would just be dumb. The only close divert field to that MOA is Moses Lake and a little farther Fairchild.
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Allen,
Do you think that the crew will probably lose their wings? Also, and I don't mean this as a commentary on the crew necessarily but how could they think that they wouldn't get in a heck of a lot of trouble for that stunt?
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Allen,
Do you think that the crew will probably lose their wings? Also, and I don't mean this as a commentary on the crew necessarily but how could they think that they wouldn't get in a heck of a lot of trouble for that stunt? In this day and age who knows. It depends as much on who their CO and the Wing Commander is and the stand they take. I'm 10+ years senior to those guys. No clue who they are.
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So it was like the Bat Signal, but for sailors?
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So it was like the Bat Signal, but for sailors? Send us more sheep... ![[Linked Image]](http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj7/AJ300MAG/Shooting%20Sports/23622387_10211031842937401_2816047152406188688_n_zpsccqbhqkb.jpg)
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Somebody e-mailed me that article and asked "when did you join the Navy."
Aviators rule. I hope they give the guy a medal.
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Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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Cshit is hitting the fan over that. I would claim it was a hat.
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Hat with a tall crown. Whats everyone getting their panties in a wad for ?? lol
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Definitely fuel dump. But unusually crisp lines for dumping. I think they should factor in the quality of the art. Well done!
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Any news as to the aviator's fate? I hope that they get away with nothing more than a 'slap on the wrist'.
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What's the BFD? Waaaaaaaa.
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Any news as to the aviator's fate? I hope that they get away with nothing more than a 'slap on the wrist'. I'm thinking he/they chose to risk it all for a shot at Naval Aviation immortality........
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I can't believe the butthurt over a vapor penis, damn bunch of pansies anymore. Well done airmen!
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Since it was a navy jet.....
it was drawn by seamen?
that's just nuts!
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