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The 7 mm 150 has a reputation as a tough bullet but you don't hear much about the 140.

For those that have used them on elk-sized game and bigger, how tough are they??



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I'll be watching this topic as I'm currently working with 150 BT, then see if 150 AB shoot the same. Found 2800 fps w/imr4350 for the 150. 21" bbl.

Like to try the 140 BT. Goal of 2900 fps for this boolit.


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The 140 BT was beefed up for Silhouette shooters to knock over the Ram or which ever target was heavier better. Then the 120 was made by shortening the same 140 jacket and is heavier still than the 140. All are good. Just me but I would pick the Accubond over the BT for Elk but then I have never shot an Elk with a BT either. I am sure it would result in a dead Elk.


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Originally Posted by Tejano
The 140 BT was beefed up for Silhouette shooters to knock over the Ram or which ever target was heavier better. Then the 120 was made by shortening the same 140 jacket and is heavier still than the 140.


Interesting. I'd always heard that it was the 120 that was beefed up for silhouette shooters. You learn something new every day, thanks.



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I’ve killed lots of deer and pigs with the the 140. Very good bullet

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What speeds hanco? 280 AI speeds?



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I always thought I needed 150's in my 7's. But, the 140's worked so good I just kept hunting with them.


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I have shot BT 140's for years.. My old 7mm Mag. loves them..Have shot everything from coyotes to moose with them ... I have a very good load for that caliber.. Very fast.. My late wife shot her last moose with this combo, it was a huge cow.. She had a solid rest and shot her just behind the shoulder about 1/3 of the way up.. The moose took one step and dropped..
I current have this 7 loaded with 168 Bergers.. When I shoot those away, my load will be the 140's..


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I've used the 140 grain BT and C-T BST to take some deer and a few dozen hogs. From my 7mm Bullberry at 2450 fps MV and from a couple of 24" 7-30 Waters barrels I used to have at 2600 fps, they performed beautifully, destroying plenty of tissue and penetrating more than adequately -- and often exiting.

From a larger-capacity cartridge and for elk, I'd likely go for the Accubond, but place the BT properly and it'll get the job done as well.

I took this buck from 230 yards with a frontal/slight quartering shot that penetrated from the left side of the chest diagonally to the right hip. MV was 2451 fps.

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I've shot truckloads of deer with the 140 BT out of a 7mm rem mag but I think that was before they were beefed up. They expanded violently and put deer down quick. I'm not sure exactly when they toughened them up, nosler has a way of doing stuff like that and not announcing it.

While it's a great deer bullet, there's no way I'd shoot one at an elk as long as the accubond was available for just a few pennies more. That choice is a no-brainer in my opinion.

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Originally Posted by TooDogs
I'll be watching this topic as I'm currently working with 150 BT, then see if 150 AB shoot the same. Found 2800 fps w/imr4350 for the 150. 21" bbl.

Like to try the 140 BT. Goal of 2900 fps for this boolit.


They don’t make a 7mm 150 grain Accubond. The 150 BT is tough


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Originally Posted by Crow hunter

While it's a great deer bullet, there's no way I'd shoot one at an elk as long as the accubond was available for just a few pennies more. That choice is a no-brainer in my opinion.


The few times I've used accubonds i was not overly impressed.



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Originally Posted by smokepole
Originally Posted by Crow hunter

While it's a great deer bullet, there's no way I'd shoot one at an elk as long as the accubond was available for just a few pennies more. That choice is a no-brainer in my opinion.


The few times I've used accubonds i was not overly impressed.


Then you'll probably be much less impressed with the ballistic tip on an animal the size of an elk. The elk I took a month ago was with a 145 Barnes LRX out of a 7mm rem mag. I surely wouldn't wanted to have shot him with a 140 ballistic tip, though I'm sure there are some that have done it. I like bullets that'll break shoulders though, which the LRX did on my bull.

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Crow, you are right.. I have a father and son that have killed dozens of elk with 7mm BTBT and 30 BTBT's.. As far as I know, they have never lost an elk.. They kill at least one a piece each year..


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I'm not anti ballistic tip, I've lost count of the number of whitetails I've killed with the 140 BT out of a 7mm rem mag, well over 100 I'm sure. Out of those I can't remember ever having an exit hole. They expand fast and violently. Heck, I had one blow up on a rib of a 100 lb. whitetail doe once, it left an 8" hole in the side with lung exposed and she went 200 yds before she bled out. I tracked her by the blood pattern sprayed 2' on the side of trees as she ran by them. My experience on elk is limited but I want a tougher bullet for an animal that size. Maybe if I lived in elk country and hunted them all the time I'd feel differently, heck Eskimos hunt polar bears with .223's. Meat hunting for smaller cows or if I could afford to be choosy about my shots might also make me feel differently. A more suitable bullet for elk might cost an extra 10 cents a piece, no reason to skimp on something like that.

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Originally Posted by smokepole
Originally Posted by Crow hunter

While it's a great deer bullet, there's no way I'd shoot one at an elk as long as the accubond was available for just a few pennies more. That choice is a no-brainer in my opinion.


The few times I've used accubonds i was not overly impressed.


Why not?


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Crow, I understand your point and you have a very valid one also.. I would be the same if I had to make a long trip to hunt anything.. We have had good luck with BTBT both my friends and I.. But because they work well for us, doesn't mean everyone will have the same experience. I like BTBT, but I hunt a lot of open country.. I have killed a number of elk with the 150 gr. BTBT from my .300... But again it was open country.. Lately, I have used the Accubond quite a bit because sometimes I want to make a high shoulder shot.. They perform very well on elk smashing the bones and giving a quick kill.. Conventional bullets don't always do both..


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Originally Posted by Kimber7man
Originally Posted by TooDogs
I'll be watching this topic as I'm currently working with 150 BT, then see if 150 AB shoot the same. Found 2800 fps w/imr4350 for the 150. 21" bbl.

Like to try the 140 BT. Goal of 2900 fps for this boolit.


They don’t make a 7mm 150 grain Accubond. The 150 BT is tough


Well, the Nosler AccuBond Long Range box in front of me (nosler p/n 58734, 7mm caliber (.284 spitzer) 150 grain, 100 ct.) says Nosler does make a 150 ab. G1BC=.611, G7BC=.309

Has a gray polymer tip. Box says I can kill deer, elk, bear, moose, african game. Wonder if it will a pronghorn at 200 yards? Might over-penetrate.


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Originally Posted by TooDogs
Originally Posted by Kimber7man
Originally Posted by TooDogs
I'll be watching this topic as I'm currently working with 150 BT, then see if 150 AB shoot the same. Found 2800 fps w/imr4350 for the 150. 21" bbl.

Like to try the 140 BT. Goal of 2900 fps for this boolit.


They don’t make a 7mm 150 grain Accubond. The 150 BT is tough


Well, the Nosler AccuBond Long Range box in front of me (nosler p/n 58734, 7mm caliber (.284 spitzer) 150 grain, 100 ct.) says Nosler does make a 150 ab. G1BC=.611, G7BC=.309

Has a gray polymer tip. Box says I can kill deer, elk, bear, moose, african game. Wonder if it will a pronghorn at 200 yards? Might over-penetrate.


Over penetrate that's JeffO talk

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