Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Hunter's Campfire Army 1911's to go to CMP for sale to civilian market

Well, the bill is headed to Trump's desk as part of the defense budget.

Specifies a miinimum number to be sold, so should happen this time.. hopefully. Wonder what they'll sell for?

https://bearingarms.com/tom-k/2017/11/21/congress-passes-bill-sale-milsurp-1911-pistols-cmp/

I saw that online earlier, and was thinking how nice it would be to have another one. I have a 1911 that was made in 1918. It belonged to my father, and I'm somewhat reluctant to carry it much.

Skipped the chance to shoot them in the Army, so never have used one. Wouldn't mind having one tho, depending on the price.

Me neither.

It will most likely be their usual stairstep pricing of the various grades. If you want a nice mostly correct one then a road trip to one of the stores to hand pick one is the way to go.
I went to Anniston for the Greek Airforce Garands... the quality of the Service Grades and especially the Service Grade Specials was stunning... picking through the Service Grades was especially tough as many of them only needed 3/5 parts to be correct. Many buyers would search until they found 2 or 3 rifles that had the parts to correct each other. The Specials looked to never have been issued but came back woodless and so had new CMP wood.
I'm more interested if any ammo comes back with them.... spam cans of cheap 45acp ball here I come. giggity

They'd surely sell at a certain price point and there are probably some collectibles in there, but the general issue ones have to be pretty worn out by now. The one I qualified with in 1972 rattled like crazy and wouldn't hold a 4" group at 15 yards slow fire, but it did go bang every time I and the other 5 or 6 guys using it pulled the trigger.

Still cool that they're putting them up for sale. Gives me hope for those Korean Garands...

Think the Koreans have a bunch of carbines also.. want one of those.

Looks like maybe another 1911 will make it in the safe.

I'd like to have one, but I bet the price will be pretty steep. Maybe not, but you can sure get a pretty nice 1911 in today's market for a very low price.

I’m a little confused on what it takes to buy from CMP. Can anybody briefly describe the requirements. Hasbeen

would be great if they auction it

Here ya go.

http://thecmp.org/cmp_sales/rifle_sales/eligibility-requirements/

best thing is to google the civilian marksmanship program and they have all the requirements there.
U.S. citizen
be affiliated with a cmp organization, if not a club there is a garand club on the net that will qualify you.
a veteran, or, proof of some type of firearms training, a ccw permit works in that area.
it is not overwelming.
the thought is probably the rack grade around a 1000bill, those that are higher end will probably go through their auction.
I have seen some of the auction garands go for over 12k.
There is no question you can get a civilian 19lla1 better built at a cheaper cost.
But it will not have the cmp birth certificate, which has a certain cache to it.
I collect the darn things, and i don't need another one, but i am sure i will buy one.
as to the south korean guns, they almost made it a couple years ago, those were not lend lease, the koreans owned them. The deal was done until the hillery state dept killed it.
My understanding from knowing some of the details condition ran from brand new, to dragged behind a tank.
There are as i was told some of the drum garands, where they were greased up, and placed in a drum for storage.
they have carbines, and 1911's too.
here is what you need to know:
http://thecmp.org/cmp_sales/rifle_sales/eligibility-requirements/

not all of these guns are going to be loose as a goose.
you never know, but cmp will know prior to listing them in auction, or for sale.
I have seen more than one from WWII still in the kraft box, unfired or better to say unused.
It would be like winning the lottery.

unless they have moved them, they are in the warehouse in anniston. Gooberment has been paying storing to cmp for a long time.
This is another benefit of trump. They could have been moved a long time ago if it wasn't for the swamp in washington. There have been various times when rifles have trickled out that were basically in new condition, stored for many many years.
You compare one of them to one of the beat to death used up versions you see floating around, it's night and day.
the WWII 1911A1's are fascinating, but they were made in a hurry for a need. Not fair to compare them to a modern 1911.
At one time, if my memory is still semi correct, you could buy a 1911 through the NRA for about 19 dollars.

Apparently one must also be a nasty civilian to get one of these, at least according to Jared Keller.


there are at least 80,000 1911s ready and waiting for a nasty civilian to give them a good home.

Jared Keller is a senior editor at Task & Purpose and contributing editor at Pacific Standard. Follow Jared Keller on Twitter @JaredBKeller.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/u-army-selling-most-powerful-013200617.html

jim i acquired one a few years ago, originally bought through the NRA. The prior owned was a nationally ranked camp perry garand shooter.
he was using it in bullseye competition at one time. he changed out the sights, ouch, and fitted barrels and bushings to it. It shoots good.
I did acquire another original rear sight for it, never mounted it but i have it, but never could find the proper diameter front sight.

You have to realize that none of them will be in original condition with original parts. All of the will have been through a re-arsenal process at some point in time, and maybe several times. The last 1911's purchased by the military was in 1945 and they served on for 37 more years.

What you will get is a pieces parts gun.

So, to hold a piece of history in your hand, yeah I can see and have made such purchases. But as a shooter, no. As for any expectation of accuracy, hell no. Will they be cheap? not a damned chance.

For a shooter and on a budget you would be vastly better served by a basic Rock Island 1911 for under $400.

nasty ? I stab him to get one of them.

I wish McCain had no part in it and never called on Trump to sign the bill. It might not happen now.