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Originally Posted by R_H_Clark
I've about decided on the Montana over a Barrett. I would really enjoy a Barrett,and I think it is a fine rifle. I really wish that the safety locked the bolt. I've not owned the Barrett but I'm starting to think I may prefer the Montana action and trigger over the Barrett,especially the 3 position safety. Take the price difference into consideration and I could have a Montana rebarreled with a quality barrel "if" it didn't shoot to satisfaction. I am very happy with my one Montana and haven't decided 100%,but that's been the line of my reasoning lately. The one factor that I wish the Montana had,which would pretty much decide it for me,is a longer mag box.


Did that same calculus and arrived at the same conclusion. I really doubt a FC is going to shoot better than my current Montana 308 - 3 shots cover with a quarter on numerous occasions. It really likes Re15....................

I must be unbelievably lucky. I've had 6-7 Montanas and have been able to get them to shoot Nosler Partitions no less, at MOA. Throw a Sierra into the equation and things get mo' better. I've seen a few Montanas that struggled to shoot but I think that is inevitable. At least until you end up with one of them, then it sucks. I'm solidly on the Kimber Montana wagon until it quits working. A guy can buy a used Montana for ~ $900. I've bought several, did the Kimber tricks which take an hour and viola' an MOA shooter than weighs between 6 and 7 lbs.

I take possession of a brand new Montana 280 AI next week. Lets hope my luck holds out <G>

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308 Montana and 257 ROBERTS select classic, I have had for years now, both are nice rifles and both shoot better than I do. The Roberts has shot 1 hole 5 shots on occasion with Hornady 117’s and 4350, the Montana is about an inch or maybe 1.5 depending more on me with Speer 165 boattail bullets and Varget, just picked up a Tikka T3X 6.5CM CTR and with 3 different factory loads it’s about a MOA rifle on its first outing, but its not really a hunting rifle and I bought it to try my hand at a new range that offers longer distance shooting. I am sure the Fieldcraft is a nice rifle but I have been thinking of another Tikka hunting rifle in 6.5 the LW stainless gun, but it’s just hard to justify with a good 257 Roberts. I killed a little 9 point last week with that gun, the 117 hornady is a good bullet. Of course these are my opinions only and I do not shoot 500 yards animals, I am just a red neck close range Deer hunter.


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Originally Posted by alpinecrick


Peek, peak, and pique.............

Through the window I peeked
And my libido was piqued
She was on the bed
Her hair was quite red
And she was twin-peaked


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Originally Posted by jwall
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Ruger RAR is a second fiddle to Tikka


Agreed ! IMO the RAR is a Tikka wannabe, that didn't make it !

Jerry


I would not say it did not make it as I think Ruger is doing really well with it. In South-Africa a RAR is less than half the price of a Tikka T3 which makes it really attractive, especially if it will be a working rifle that you simply throw behind the pick-up's seat. Other than accuracy (yes I own a Tikka) there is nothing special about a Tikka. The trigger is pretty crap if you do not change the trigger spring, the stocks are nothing to write home about and the rest is just ordinary.

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How did Kimble wiggle so prominently into this discussion?

In my old age, I get confused. Someone help me remember.

Tikka Roulette
Kimber Roulette
Barrett Roulette

That's all I have to add. Oh, Happy Halloween everyone!

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Originally Posted by m77
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Ruger RAR is a second fiddle to Tikka


Agreed ! IMO the RAR is a Tikka wannabe, that didn't make it !

Jerry


I would not say it did not make it as I think Ruger is doing really well with it. In South-Africa a RAR is less than half the price of a Tikka T3 which makes it really attractive, especially if it will be a working rifle that you simply throw behind the pick-up's seat. Other than accuracy (yes I own a Tikka) there is nothing special about a Tikka. The trigger is pretty crap if you do not change the trigger spring, the stocks are nothing to write home about and the rest is just ordinary.

I agree.


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Originally Posted by m77

I would not say it did not make it as I think Ruger is doing really well with it.

... there is nothing special about a Tikka. The trigger is pretty crap if you do not change the trigger spring, the stocks are nothing to write home about and the rest is just ordinary.


First off, I meant that the rar isn't the same quality as a Tikka T 3. Your comment about throwing the rar behind the seat bears that out.

"trigger pretty crap" ? ? ? You are in the minority of those commenting on Tikka triggers. Mine is a L O N G way from crap. NO travel, NO creep, NOT heavy pull. I have NOT touched the trigger mechanism except to squeeze it.
Those are the comments I've heard mostly here on the fire.

I'm in my 15th season with the T 3 Lite 270 Win, using factory rings. It has held zero with 1 (ONE) exception, I took a HARD fall and the whole rife hit the ground on its side. I had to adjust the scope 2" IIRC.

We'll just have to agree to disagree.



I haven't made up my mind YET which is UGLIER, rar or salvage.

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I agree with jwall on the trigger, and even the factory rings. I find the trigger to be excellent, and obviously very easy to adjust.....takes about 3 minutes. I've also had several Tikkas over the past 20 years, including several T3's. As long as you don't break out the cheater pipe and over torque the rings they will hold up fine and work great..


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I don't believe the T3 to a Barrett is a good comparison, and they shouldn't be; the Barrett costs over 2x what a Tikka costs. Both have their place, but for me it would take a serious stock upgrade, a better recoil lug, and some better optic mounting options to use a Tikka over my Fieldcraft.

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Originally Posted by Sitka deer
Originally Posted by alpinecrick


Peek, peak, and pique.............

Through the window I peeked
And my libido was piqued
She was on the bed
Her hair was quite red
And she was twin-peaked


Damn your White Privilege Public School Educations!

I don't feel safe anymore!

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Originally Posted by jwall
Originally Posted by m77

I would not say it did not make it as I think Ruger is doing really well with it.

... there is nothing special about a Tikka. The trigger is pretty crap if you do not change the trigger spring, the stocks are nothing to write home about and the rest is just ordinary.


First off, I meant that the rar isn't the same quality as a Tikka T 3. Your comment about throwing the rar behind the seat bears that out.

"trigger pretty crap" ? ? ? You are in the minority of those commenting on Tikka triggers. Mine is a L O N G way from crap. NO travel, NO creep, NOT heavy pull. I have NOT touched the trigger mechanism except to squeeze it.
Those are the comments I've heard mostly here on the fire.

I'm in my 15th season with the T 3 Lite 270 Win, using factory rings. It has held zero with 1 (ONE) exception, I took a HARD fall and the whole rife hit the ground on its side. I had to adjust the scope 2" IIRC.

We'll just have to agree to disagree.




I haven't made up my mind YET which is UGLIER, rar or salvage.

Jerry


Everyone I know with Tikkas has had a similar experience to yours, Jerry. I've never owned one but I'm thinking seriously about acquiring one. As far as looks go the Tikka looks gorgeous compared to the RAR. That Ruger looks like it was put together by a bunch of all-thumbs drunk [bleep]. It sounds like it's actually good rifle, but holy crap, I have a hard time getting past the looks.


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Originally Posted by 340boy
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I haven't made up my mind YET which is UGLIER, rar or salvage.
Jerry

As far as looks go the Tikka looks gorgeous compared to the RAR. That Ruger looks like it was put together by a bunch of all-thumbs drunk [bleep]. It sounds like it's actually good rifle, but holy crap, I have a hard time getting past the looks.


laugh laugh YEP.

I don't care how good she performs, I haven't been drunk enuff to go to bed with Coyote UGLY !


I have a Timney on a Custom M 98 and I like the Tikka trigger better.


In 15 yrs. I NEVER considered getting rid of my Tikka T 3 Lite.
I would NOT hesitate to get another if I wanted or needed it.

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Originally Posted by 340boy
Originally Posted by jwall
Originally Posted by m77

I would not say it did not make it as I think Ruger is doing really well with it.

... there is nothing special about a Tikka. The trigger is pretty crap if you do not change the trigger spring, the stocks are nothing to write home about and the rest is just ordinary.


First off, I meant that the rar isn't the same quality as a Tikka T 3. Your comment about throwing the rar behind the seat bears that out.

"trigger pretty crap" ? ? ? You are in the minority of those commenting on Tikka triggers. Mine is a L O N G way from crap. NO travel, NO creep, NOT heavy pull. I have NOT touched the trigger mechanism except to squeeze it.
Those are the comments I've heard mostly here on the fire.

I'm in my 15th season with the T 3 Lite 270 Win, using factory rings. It has held zero with 1 (ONE) exception, I took a HARD fall and the whole rife hit the ground on its side. I had to adjust the scope 2" IIRC.

We'll just have to agree to disagree.




I haven't made up my mind YET which is UGLIER, rar or salvage.

Jerry


Everyone I know with Tikkas has had a similar experience to yours, Jerry. I've never owned one but I'm thinking seriously about acquiring one. As far as looks go the Tikka looks gorgeous compared to the RAR. That Ruger looks like it was put together by a bunch of all-thumbs drunk [bleep]. It sounds like it's actually good rifle, but holy crap, I have a hard time getting past the looks.


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I like Tikkas, right now a 7.5lb all up rifle is as light as I can shoot well. Once I improve on that I hope to try out either a barret or a Kimber Montana. Currently happily slumming my T3.

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Just saw this definition on Googles Urban dictionary-

TIKKATARD-
A rifle consumer who is actually dumb enough to believe that cheap, homely injection molded Finnish polymer is somehow"better" than cheap homely injection molded American polymer.

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Originally Posted by Sitka deer
Originally Posted by alpinecrick


Peek, peak, and pique.............

Through the window I peeked
And my libido was piqued
She was on the bed
Her hair was quite red
And she was twin-peaked


lol........!


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Originally Posted by jk16

TIKKATARD-
A rifle consumer who is actually dumb enough to believe that cheap, homely injection molded Finnish polymer is somehow"better" than cheap homely injection molded American polymer.


I reckon others are just Regularturds !

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Originally Posted by jk16
Just saw this definition on Googles Urban dictionary-

TIKKATARD-
A rifle consumer who is actually dumb enough to believe that cheap, homely injection molded Finnish polymer is somehow"better" than cheap homely injection molded American polymer.

C'mon, jk16, don't make it personal. Don't be a hater, man.

After all, I have several friends who shoot Tikkas. You know, the ones whose wives wouldn't let them buy a real Sako. grin

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Originally Posted by skeen
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Just saw this definition on Googles Urban dictionary-

TIKKATARD-
A rifle consumer who is actually dumb enough to believe that cheap, homely injection molded Finnish polymer is somehow"better" than cheap homely injection molded American polymer.

C'mon, jk16, don't make it personal. Don't be a hater, man.

After all, I have several friends who shoot Tikkas. You know, the ones whose wives wouldn't let them buy a real Sako. grin


Not hating at all. Blame Google not me.. :()

Folks get retarded over all sorts of wares..And see things that simply are not there.

And btw-the word "European" could replace "Tikka" and the definition would be just as valid.

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My tikkatard son does pretty well with his T3 7-08.


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