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Isn't Rex Tillerson the AH that's responsible for the BSA accepting queers??
If so....he needs my #12 combat boot up his fat azz!!
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I remember the Old Days, when religion wasn't really any part of the BSA. Once God got hop of it, it became just another agendized organization out to warp minds. Check out scout law number 12, ya dufus.
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I remember the Old Days, when religion wasn't really any part of the BSA. Once God got hop of it, it became just another agendized organization out to warp minds. Any idea how long the God and Country award has been part of the BSA? Maroon.
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I am involved in two scout troops, I don't like nor agree on the direction the BSA is going and intend to stay to help my scouts and grandkids achieve the rank of "Eagle Scout". For any young man achieving the Eagle Rank is priceless in a college application or employment application. I have been told by several recent Eagles that they felt that it didn't give them any advantage for college or employment applications. That said, I know of one Eagle who enlisted in the Army during his senior year in high school and was sent straight to NCOCS straight out of AIT. I don't know whether his success was based on having earned his Eagle or if it was because he read through the warrior skills manuals before he started basic training.
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Spent lots of time and money assisting our local troop and young son eventually achieved top honors. The one aspect I did not care for was that it was a church affiliated troop. Even so, getting support and help from church members was like pulling teeth. There would be times, however, when the leadership would split the troop into groups of members and non-members for portions of a program or event. Did not care for that, as it was an obvious divide with some suggestions of social superiority.
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I remember the Old Days, when religion wasn't really any part of the BSA. Once God got hop of it, it became just another agendized organization out to warp minds. Is that so?? Apparently you never learned the Boy Scout oath...something he learns from day one in the scouts. On my honor, I will do my best To do my duty to God and my Country and to obey the Scout Law; To help other people at all times; To keep myself physically strong, mentally awake, and morally straight. http://www.boyscouttrail.com/boy-scouts/scout-oath.asp
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It's a sad thing what is happening to the boy scouts but be glad your church isn't one who is willing to over looks their agenda. I hope your church gets a good program started.
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You tell me how I ought to be, yet you don't even know your own sexuality,, the philosopher,,, you know so much about nothing at all. Chuck Schuldiner
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Sad when perversion takes precedence over morality.
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It ain’t about perversion, morality or oaths.
It’s about money.
“There are some who can live without wild things and some who cannot.” ALDO LEOPOLD
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It ain’t about perversion, morality or oaths.
It’s about money. I thought that BSA embraced homosexuality to avoid being sued for discrimination.
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It ain’t about perversion, morality or oaths.
It’s about money. I thought that BSA embraced homosexuality to avoid being sued for discrimination. And to avoid losing millions of dollars of corporate donations.
“There are some who can live without wild things and some who cannot.” ALDO LEOPOLD
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Morality can't be dictated with a checkbook.
“In a time of deceit telling the truth is a revolutionary act.” ― George Orwell
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It ain’t about perversion, morality or oaths.
It’s about money. I thought that BSA embraced homosexuality to avoid being sued for discrimination. And to avoid losing millions of dollars of corporate donations. The perversity of money. Thus teaching scouts the all important lesson that what you stand for only matters if it doesn't cost you to hold onto your principals.
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Morality can't be dictated with a checkbook. Apparently it can. Levis Strauss led the way in this years ago. They openly threatened to with hold donations if the Boy Scouts did not openly embrase sodomites. They resisted for years. I believe one is accountable for what they do with their money. When Levis Strauss with held money form the Boy Scouts, I with held money from Levis Strauss.
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Morality can't be dictated with a checkbook. Apparently it can. Levis Strauss led the way in this years ago. They openly threatened to with hold donations if the Boy Scouts did not openly embrase sodomites. They resisted for years. I believe one is accountable for what they do with their money. When Levis Strauss with held money form the Boy Scouts, I with held money from Levis Strauss. No, it can't. There's no morality there, money or not. The scouts have taken the money but at a tremendous cost.
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Trail Life is a fast-growing organization. Looks to be a good one, one of my grandsons is in a troop.
'Four legs good, two legs baaaad." ---------------------------------------------- "Jimmy, some of it's magic, Some of it's tragic, But I had a good life all the way." (Jimmy Buffett)
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Morality can't be dictated with a checkbook. Apparently it can. Levis Strauss led the way in this years ago. They openly threatened to with hold donations if the Boy Scouts did not openly embrase sodomites. They resisted for years. I believe one is accountable for what they do with their money. When Levis Strauss with held money form the Boy Scouts, I with held money from Levis Strauss. No, it can't. There's no morality there, money or not. The scouts have taken the money but at a tremendous cost. So they sold their morality...right? Know anyone who visits Disney theme parks...I'm not talking about just on "gay pride" days.
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I didn’t mind the religious aspect of scouting when I was a kid, as it was always in the background. Not a big fan of the recent changes though.
I’d like to find a scouting type group that focused on being a solid man and boon to their community first, and left religion and weird sexual schit the fugg out of it.
“Life is life and fun is fun, but it's all so quiet when the goldfish die.”
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Can't buy or legislate morality.
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It still belongs to the sponsoring organization....they can accept or refuse some of these dictates...
BSA National leaves the option up to the Sponsor...
However since the Mormons are 70% of BSA nowadays... even tho I am a leader in a Scout troop, I fear their days are numbered
and recruiting is getting harder...
and some troops are really compromising themselves..
we are sponsored by a Catholic Church, and so far, so good... they picked us up after the Knights of Columbus dropped us after 40 years of sponsorship...
one certainly has to deal with a lot of garbage leaders didn't have to deal with when I was involved in my youth in the 60s... from 1962 to 1970...
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