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Any one know what new calibers Winchester will launch in the mod 70? As far as my limited knowledge goes, Winchester produces a limited run of at least one new or classic cartridge every year in the mod. 70 ...

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Those are the SHOT SHOW specials.

Be nice to see Winchester chamber the .300 H&H or even .257 Wby.


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elkhunter...was the 280 Rem a limited run this year? ... we got some here in Australia...

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Think so,IIRC it was a Super Grade.


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There was a run of fwt 280s, perhaps 2015?

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Stainless featherweight please!!!!!!

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I'd settle for a lefty in .30-06.
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If we're wishing, how 'bout stainless/walnut left hand Featherweights in classic calibers............7x57, 6.5x55, .257, .270, .30-06 ect.


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Originally Posted by tmitch
If we're wishing, how 'bout stainless/walnut left hand Featherweights in classic calibers............7x57, 6.5x55, .257, .270, .30-06 ect.


That would work, too.
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If only... can’t even imagine the joy if W did a run of stainless lefties.. even if this highly unlikely event did take place, we would only see the blued boring trifecta... which I would jump at. I have a lefty Ruger 77 and Rem 700 both in stainless but would love a lefty in a Winchester... calibers 22 hornet, 280AI, 350 rigby, 416 Taylor, 318 WR...

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I wish they'd put a heavy barreled target rifle out. I love the look of the satin black finish with stainless barrel on the Coyote Lite but hate the light and fluted barrel. Basically, would like to see them do a run of the old 1990s SA's but in CRF. It annoys me to no end that they're the only major manufacturer who doesn't have a real target rifle.

Now if we're talking just calibers.... I would absolutely love to see them put out a .220 Swift or .22 Hornet.... in either a target rifle or Super Grade. Super Grade would be sweet!


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I get excited this time of year, wondering what M70s might be coming from Winchester. For me though, it's been pretty disappointing the last few years.... like the maple Super Grade stock. No offense to anyone who likes them but I was pretty disappointed after holding my breath all the way up to Shot Show only to see that thing. I just think with Winchester's somewhat monopoly on controlled round feed guns, they could really grab some sales with cool offerings. Same thing with Ruger but they seem to be asleep at the wheel too with interest only in their handguns.

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Gents..... if anyone sees W’s publication for calibers released , please post here for us, surely that would be made available before SHOT?

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It has been a closely guarded secret the last few years!

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I wish that W would bring back the Classic STS line with top workmanship and the OLD TRIGGER!!!

I have owned and used 43 original P-64s and two custom STS Classics and am now getting rid of all of these except about three, due to age and owning many other rifles. But, I consider the Classic STS, especially with the Weibe mag box-follower to be about as good as it gets for magnum chamberings used for BC and "Territories" hunting.

Such a piece, with Brockman-Talley mounts, two scopes in QD rings, in .338WM plus a Kimber Montana, .270Win. are about as "ideal" for serious BC uses as can be had and how I would go were I young again.

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I was told several months ago by a Winchester employee that 6.5 Creedmoor chambering was coming for next year.

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Why dont they give us another Fwt option stock? That same Fleur-de-lis pattern is what 35 years old? Those who adore it, have several most likely. Why not give us the lines of the Fwt SG/Higrade or JOC tribute on a run of the mill Fwt. Even sonething like the Lightweight stock from the late 80's would be a good alternative.


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Originally Posted by Mjduct
Stainless featherweight please!!!!!!



In left hand with the old trigger. Please make mine in the good ol USA again too... Might be asking too much, but hey it's worth a shot... crazy


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Originally Posted by bsa1917hunter
Originally Posted by Mjduct
Stainless featherweight please!!!!!!



In left hand with the old trigger. Please make mine in the good ol USA again too... Might be asking too much, but hey it's worth a shot... crazy


Yup, I'm with you BSA, glad there are still plenty of classics and pre-64's, I could never get passed portugalsick stamped on a Model 70 Winchester. mad

MF'n bean counters!


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Yeah,as if the animal knows it is being killed with a Pre '64,NH made or Portugal made M 70. You guys are really a hoot.


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When the Model 70 gets the final ax, the naysayers will be sucking up those Portugal rifles like they were formally signed off on by JOC.


And years later someone like Connecticut Shotgun Manufacturing will buy the name and rights-like they did with the Model 21-and make you one for $5000 or so. It won't be any better than the ones made in Portugal, but by damn it will be a Model 70 made right here. I doubt if few of the naysayers will be buying it either. wink

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I don't need any Portuguese mausers. There's still plenty of pre 64's and classics around, to need any BACO rifle.. grin


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I hope they bring more levers to the market.

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Originally Posted by bsa1917hunter
I don't need any Portuguese mausers. There's still plenty of pre 64's and classics around, to need any BACO rifle.. grin


And you are correct there.

However, for years now we have been hearing Portugal, Portugal, Portugal. It would be like me coming on and for years saying the only Bird Dog worth owning is an English hunting Cocker. Eventually you guys would be telling me to can it.

I'd take a new Model 70 and run with it long before I would even consider one of the Bic plastics throwaways that are the new rage.

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Most of the parts are machined in the FN plant in the US. Assembly is done at the Browning plant in Viana Portugal where many Browning firerms have been assembled since the mid 70's.


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Originally Posted by elkhunternm
Yeah,as if the animal knows it is being killed with a Pre '64,NH made or Portugal made M 70. You guys are really a hoot.



Yes, and I could of course win a drag race with a kia/hyundai built Keith Black blown alcohol Hemi too.sick even if one existed. wouldn't have if it were free.

I consider John Browning/Winchester to be hallowed ground that shaped, protected, and formed this country, cheep chit foreign countries need not apply, especially in the name of excess corporate profit, I do however like FN and anything German, Austrian or Belgiun made, fine craftsmen there.

Have had and shot several BAR's over the decades, all straight Belgium guns.

And no, you go ahead and scoop em battue, you can have my share of P marked anything.

We all have choices as to what we like and want to buy, I could give a flying squirrels fuzzy ballsack what others think about what guns I like, and same/same on the 180.


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SOOOO, if the Model 70 was made in Belgium it would be OK?


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I actually called them today and asked what's new in 2018. Guy I talked to said nothing new in the Model 70 lineup except their Shot Show specials, which are limited offerings, and which he couldn't talk about. Said upper management is pretty tight lipped about the Shot Show specials which I can believe.

My money is on a "Poplar" stocked Super Grade... or some such nonsense like that.

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Can't speak to the Portugal assembled Winchesters, but the earlier BACO South Carolina Model 70 Super Grades are very nice indeed. I own a bunch of them. Funny thing is pre 64's never did much for me ever since I was a young man. The majority I saw and handled over the years just seemed old and plain looking. Oh and I suppose the Japanese Miroku made Daly's are just crap shotguns as well....lol

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I had a FWT in 6.5x55 some years ago- wouldn't mind seeing another one of those offered. Also would like to see the EW with a slimmer, lighter stock. And while I am dreaming, a .264 with a 1:8 twist.

edit: how could I forget-a Featherweight in 9.3 x 62 or 338-06.

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There's zero new in the 70 line. They are offering the Creedmoor in the XPR, but not the 70... They also have their version of the ugly assed "Precision Rifle" on the XPR action, ho-hummm....

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Hard to believe W wont be doing a Creedmoor in the M70. With the US markets slowing down, one would think that they wanna stick to the tried and tested demand out there.. when last did a cartridge come along in the last 100 years that the mainstream manufacturers just could not ignore and absolutely jumped at? Surely its every Co. dream come true ... turnover for jam..

Would give my left ganoolie to be a fly on the wall at their marketing meetings discussing cartridge selections every year for the M70 ... just to understand their thinking around selection. Maybe they just wanna be different for differents sake? Dont wanna be seen doing what Remington and Ruger are doing? Maybe its and exclusivity thing ... "you should be grateful for what we select for you to use". Remington has no less than 5 different M700 variants in Creedmoor ... something for everyone in that lineup . From most of your comments I see a disappointment in W and I fear its going unnoticed by them...

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I was told by a Winchester rep several months ago that they were coming out with a 6.5 Creedmoor this year. I assumed that given their lineup, it would probably be in a featherweight, but I kind of forgot about the xpr

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Find out who their major distributors are. Contact them and point them to threads like this one. Or convince them to reopen their custom shop where you can, for a little bit more money, get what you want.

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Yeah, Like a short action 70 compact or Featherweight in 250-3000.

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Originally Posted by sqweeler
Yeah, Like a short action 70 compact or Featherweight in 250-3000.


Or .284


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Just give me a left hand featherweight in any standard short-action, or long-action caliber for that matter and I'd be whistling a happy tune, something with the "true" FWT barrel contour. Just not those freakin WSM calibers!!!

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I have zero interest in the XPR.


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The new 2018 guns are up on their website. Nothing for the M70. I suppose there might still be some special Shot Show offerings, but who knows.

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Well, it looks like they have a few Shot Show specials, in Model 70. Some stainless offerings...Super Grade, Featherweight, Maple... .264 mag, 6.5 creedmoor, a suppressor ready Coyote Light... to name a few.

Was really hoping for something in a heavy barrel.

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Wish they would have kept the crescent buttplate for this one but overall I like it.

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.280 Featherweight Stainless....interesting

If only the barrel were marked New Haven, CT.

A rebarrel of a 7mm-08 to .284 tempts....

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Originally Posted by nyrifleman
.280 Featherweight Stainless....interesting

If only the barrel were marked New Haven, CT.

A rebarrel of a 7mm-08 to .284 tempts....

Slap me with a wet fish ... 280 stainless... Might consider one, not a lefty but best that will ever come my way

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So the Creed is now in most of the model 70 lineups? That's not bad... And the new finishes gives a good variety in blue/stainless and various wood and synthetic options. Winchester has made some effort...

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