|
Joined: Nov 2015
Posts: 488 Likes: 2
Campfire Member
|
OP
Campfire Member
Joined: Nov 2015
Posts: 488 Likes: 2 |
I have been trying to figure out the answer to this question the last few days and have had no luck so far. Is there anyone that is going to import the stainless steel Zastava mausers to the US?
If so, would they be worth having? I know Zastava is a bit hit or miss, but a stainless steel Mauser action is just too intriguing to me to not want.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 2,701
Campfire Regular
|
Campfire Regular
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 2,701 |
If you want a Mauser in SS then yes, they're worth having. The issue is that no one seems to have had any luck importing the Zastava Mausers on a regular long term basis. Vol717 from the AR forums is the last guy I know that was importing them. http://forums.accuratereloading.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/2711043/m/5031038632 You may want to reach out to him to see what is possible. They are serviceable rifles needing a bit of judicious polishing to make them a smooth operating rifle. Far better then the Dumoulin Mauser actions that are being sold by SARCO.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 28,388 Likes: 1
Campfire Ranger
|
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 28,388 Likes: 1 |
I think they could be imported if anyone could stomach dealing with Zastava. At least, that's the impression I got the last time someone did a special import. Seems the Zastavians care much more about the quality of their checkering than they do about dealing with Americans.
Gunnery, gunnery, gunnery. Hit the target, all else is twaddle!
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 6,669
Campfire Tracker
|
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 6,669 |
Seems the Zastavians care much more about the quality of their checkering than they do about dealing with Americans. We really, really, really need a sarcasm imogee.
'Four legs good, two legs baaaad." ---------------------------------------------- "Jimmy, some of it's magic, Some of it's tragic, But I had a good life all the way." (Jimmy Buffett)
SotG
|
|
|
|
Joined: Nov 2015
Posts: 488 Likes: 2
Campfire Member
|
OP
Campfire Member
Joined: Nov 2015
Posts: 488 Likes: 2 |
I think a stainless Mauser would be about as rugged a rifle as you could build on. Plenty of stock options out there, so that wouldn't be a huge issue. Thanks for the pointer to the guy on AR. Every dealer I've messaged no longer has any Zastavas, much less the stainless version.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 44,859 Likes: 4
Campfire 'Bwana
|
Campfire 'Bwana
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 44,859 Likes: 4 |
Seems the Zastavians care much more about the quality of their checkering than they do about dealing with Americans. We really, really, really need a sarcasm imogee. Were those Remington Mausers from a while back Zastavas? Those stocks were rough for sure. Dull screwdriver inletting and so on.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 5,513 Likes: 2
Campfire Tracker
|
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 5,513 Likes: 2 |
Were those Remington Mausers from a while back Zastavas? Those stocks were rough for sure. Dull screwdriver inletting and so on. Yes, they were, and yes, they were.
"Live like you'll die tomorrow, but manage your grass like you'll live forever." -S. M. Stirling
|
|
|
|
Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 4,847
Campfire Tracker
|
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 4,847 |
Seems the Zastavians care much more about the quality of their checkering than they do about dealing with Americans. We really, really, really need a sarcasm imogee. We sure do! I have a Zastava "M70" (M98), and when it arrived it looked as though it had been finished with a single Lipton tea bag after having brewed a cup or two of tea. Add the etched-in "checkering" and it was something to behold. Ironically, the finish on the rifle itself is some of the deepest and even bluing I've seen. But as you said, they're not much on stock work. I should mention, though, the wood underneath the Lipton finish has a decent grain that a few coats of Timberluxe brought to the surface. RM
"An archer sees how far he can be from a target and still hit it, a bowhunter sees how close he can get before he shoots." It is certainly easy to use that same line of thinking with firearms. -- Unknown
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 2,701
Campfire Regular
|
Campfire Regular
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 2,701 |
Were those Remington Mausers from a while back Zastavas? Those stocks were rough for sure. Dull screwdriver inletting and so on. Yes, they were, and yes, they were. I've been told but can't confirm that Boyds supplied those Laminate stocks for the 798's.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Nov 2013
Posts: 28,812 Likes: 4
Campfire Ranger
|
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Nov 2013
Posts: 28,812 Likes: 4 |
When you get tired of wishing and hoping, consider putting a stainless barrel on a blued one or one of the bazillion FNs out there. My late brother had one built by Brown with a Shilen stainless barrel and electroless nickle finish stuffed into a kevlar stock. Pretty nice rig, but pretty dang heavy by today's standards. Back when I was a one-rifle guy, I used it to kill my first WV buck while my son used my rifle.
What fresh Hell is this?
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 6,669
Campfire Tracker
|
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 6,669 |
Yeah, Rev, I've looked at several of those and they were all like that. I think Jim overhauled one and it came out nice.
'Four legs good, two legs baaaad." ---------------------------------------------- "Jimmy, some of it's magic, Some of it's tragic, But I had a good life all the way." (Jimmy Buffett)
SotG
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 28,388 Likes: 1
Campfire Ranger
|
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 28,388 Likes: 1 |
Just so this doesn't become too much of an inside joke. Lest I seem to sneer at the Zastava too much, there is a pretty nice rifle contained in that desecration of wood. With a little polishing of the action they can be made into very nice rifles. And despite the finish, they occasionally do put some nice wood on them. I wish all success in someone making a stainless Mauser available at an affordable cost.
Gunnery, gunnery, gunnery. Hit the target, all else is twaddle!
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 28,388 Likes: 1
Campfire Ranger
|
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 28,388 Likes: 1 |
Yeah, Rev, I've looked at several of those and they were all like that. I think Jim overhauled one and it came out nice. They do clean up nicely. We used a French Red stain on this and in retrospect I wish we'd left the wood natural or used a walnut stain, but with some slenderizing, refinishing and recheckering they are fine rifles.
Gunnery, gunnery, gunnery. Hit the target, all else is twaddle!
|
|
|
|
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 7,578
Campfire Outfitter
|
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 7,578 |
I never got a piece of wood on a Zastava worth working with, so I went with a more radical approach. A lefty stainless Mauser would be almost more than my constitution could bear.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Nov 2015
Posts: 488 Likes: 2
Campfire Member
|
OP
Campfire Member
Joined: Nov 2015
Posts: 488 Likes: 2 |
Well, I don't know about a lefty version, but this is a model they have on their website. http://www.zastava-arms.rs/en/civilianproduct/sporting-rifle-m70pss I figure that in a decent stock would be some kinda interesting. I mean I have various Mausers. But a stainless one..... That just screams rugged to me.
|
|
|
|
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 16,554
Campfire Ranger
|
Campfire Ranger
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 16,554 |
Hmm. That checkering looks like a great rifle loony winter project. Recutting isn't hard but takes a lot of time and patience. And that would run the price up quite a bit if Zastava did it.
The key elements in human thinking are not numbers but labels of fuzzy sets. -- L. Zadeh
Which explains a lot.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 4,847
Campfire Tracker
|
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 4,847 |
They do clean up nicely. We used a French Red stain on this and in retrospect I wish we'd left the wood natural or used a walnut stain, but with some slenderizing, refinishing and recheckering they are fine rifles. That turned out really nice. How much wood did you remove? By the way, for those interested, the one I have is 7x57 and the twist is the standard European twist: 1:220mm/1:866". It dearly loves 175-grain bullets.
"An archer sees how far he can be from a target and still hit it, a bowhunter sees how close he can get before he shoots." It is certainly easy to use that same line of thinking with firearms. -- Unknown
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 28,388 Likes: 1
Campfire Ranger
|
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 28,388 Likes: 1 |
Hard to really quantify how much was removed, but the LOP was reduced from 14 1/2" (must be lanky fellows, those Zastavians. ) to 13 3/4", the rollover cheekpiece was ground off, the wrist and grip were reduced enough to get through the original checkering and the action area and especially the forend had about half the thickness removed. These pictures also show the nice exterior finish they put on the rifle. The closest before and after pics I have of the action area ,hopefully they show the difference in amount of wood around the action. More "before" of the thickness of the forend. "After" pics of the buttstock and checkering. The checkering was done by my local gunsmith. I didn't want anything really fancy (i.e. $$$) in keeping with the more budget aspect of the whole rifle but he did a nice functional job of it.
Gunnery, gunnery, gunnery. Hit the target, all else is twaddle!
|
|
|
|
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 125
Campfire Member
|
Campfire Member
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 125 |
Last edited by secretsquirrel; 12/05/17.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Nov 2013
Posts: 28,812 Likes: 4
Campfire Ranger
|
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Nov 2013
Posts: 28,812 Likes: 4 |
Two U.S. importers are listed on that website.
What fresh Hell is this?
|
|
|
|
556 members (1badf350, 160user, 1minute, 1Longbow, 10ring1, 1936M71, 56 invisible),
2,520
guests, and
1,248
robots. |
Key:
Admin,
Global Mod,
Mod
|
|
Forums81
Topics1,192,338
Posts18,487,696
Members73,969
|
Most Online11,491 Jul 7th, 2023
|
|
|
|