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I need to know the value of each, then I`m good to go. Once I knew that .1 mil = .36 inches, no more quesswork. My MOA/Mil dot scopes are just as easy (SS10x42 MIL dot x MOA glass for instance. BUT, these scopes need to be used, frequently, to keep the mind in the game....at least my mind. I have gone to a brainless solution, in that I make my own drop tapes to place on my turrets. Figure the balistics, shoot to conferm, then the tape in 50 yrd increments goes on the dial. Range, dial and shoot. Should I go to a different bullet, velocity etc. I make a new tape, keep the old one in the bullet box for a change back. For you computer guys, all you need is the dia. of the dial..break that down into moa or mils. My son prints these off for me so I got lotsa spairs. But I shoot almost every day, retired, 5-6 different rifles with these scopes on em..I also have several different places to shoot at distance. I`m lucky.
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I need to know the value of each, then I`m good to go. Once I knew that .1 mil = .36 inches, no more quesswork. My MOA/Mil dot scopes are just as easy (SS10x42 MIL dot x MOA glass for instance. BUT, these scopes need to be used, frequently, to keep the mind in the game....at least my mind. I have gone to a brainless solution, in that I make my own drop tapes to place on my turrets. Figure the balistics, shoot to conferm, then the tape in 50 yrd increments goes on the dial. Range, dial and shoot. Should I go to a different bullet, velocity etc. I make a new tape, keep the old one in the bullet box for a change back. For you computer guys, all you need is the dia. of the dial..break that down into moa or mils. My son prints these off for me so I got lotsa spairs. But I shoot almost every day, retired, 5-6 different rifles with these scopes on em..I also have several different places to shoot at distance. I`m lucky. As a mathematician this statement is killing me.
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Does a critter hit with MIL adjustments die quicker than one hit with MOA adjustments? Thanks Troublemaker.
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There's only one range at which 0.1 Mil = 0.36"
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Um, my quess would be 100 yrds? Then .72 at 200, 1.08 at 300 etc
Or .25 at 100, .50 at 200, .75 at 300 etc. Like I`ve already admitted, I`m no Mathman....so are these correct?
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A milliradian is an angle, an inch is a length.
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balistics, conferm,, spairs.. As a mathematician this statement is killing me. and as a spelling nazi, this is killing me.......grin
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Thanks Mathman. But for me .36 inches works.
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Um, my quess would be 100 yrds? Then .72 at 200, 1.08 at 300 etc
Or .25 at 100, .50 at 200, .75 at 300 etc. Like I`ve already admitted, I`m no Mathman....so are these correct? It's all good. Whatever it takes to get a feel for it. But that way of thinking gets weaker further out where a Mil is a Mil is a Mil and there's zero need for inches. I have had to think in 0.36" when using targets with inch grids where I could not see bullet holes in the scope, lacking a Mil spotter.
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A whole(hole) thread on how to site in a rifle. It’s glorious this place is full of [bleep] morons. Next week some one will do a shoe tying step by step and you poor retarded [bleep] can stop tripping on your laces or depending on your mommas. Formillous you keep showing these guys all your tricks they will be setting in that black hawk with you.
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Wow, Freddie! Four complete sentences - congrats, tiger.
You calling-out anyone out for being challenged is NEVER not funny.
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GregW gave me this tip, and I think it's a good one, at least for me it is. On the drop chart thing, I have a column for Wind correction in Mils, and one right beside it I have a column for wind drift in inches. Since I'm familiar with how big a deer is, or aoudad, antelope, etc, it gives me a good mental image of what the wind is supposedly doing at given ranges. It simplifies things for my feeble (and newbie to this Mils stuff) mind. Obviously I hold for wind with the Mil hashes (SWFA 3-9) but I like knowing the inches in drift as well. Call me weird.
Good stuff Formid. Thanks for taking the time. Jordan as well.
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Wow, Freddie! Four complete sentences - congrats, tiger. Thanks. Kinda figured you would be at the range doing some site in now that you got the skinny on how to. LOL. Kill any elk this year Scotty. Seem Donny got a creedmoor cherry while back. This is not as good as the how to open a box of nosler bullets but it’s gotta be close.
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Wow, Freddie! Four complete sentences - congrats, tiger.
You calling-out anyone out for being challenged is NEVER not funny. Laughing....
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Wow, Freddie! Four complete sentences - congrats, tiger.
You calling-out anyone out for being challenged is NEVER not funny. Isn't that the truth.
It is irrelevant what you think. What matters is the TRUTH.
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GregW gave me this tip, and I think it's a good one, at least for me it is. On the drop chart thing, I have a column for Wind correction in Mils, and one right beside it I have a column for wind drift in inches. Since I'm familiar with how big a deer is, or aoudad, antelope, etc, it gives me a good mental image of what the wind is supposedly doing at given ranges. It simplifies things for my feeble (and newbie to this Mils stuff) mind. Obviously I hold for wind with the Mil hashes (SWFA 3-9) but I like knowing the inches in drift as well. Call me weird.
Good stuff Formid. Thanks for taking the time. Jordan as well. It's not a bad thing to know the linear equivalent to angular dispersion at a given range, given that our targets are linear by nature, and not angular, but when it comes to making shot corrections the point is to get away from feeling the need to convert angular numbers into linear ones, and then convert them back to angular again to dial them into the turrets.
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Your dumb azz gave up and went with Velcro long ago. LMMFAO.
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You can site in a rifle on this sight.....
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Hell maybe after the shoe tying how to. We can get steelhead to do a how to get laid at family reunions even with abnormally spaced eyes. 😂
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