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Stopped at my LGS this morning just to say hello. As I was leaving the owner asked if I'd seen the Browning 78. Uh oh! Octagonal barrel 25-06. Needed a good cleaning but I think the bore will be quite respectable after some TLC. One very small spot on the bottom of the barrel that might have some light pitting and minimal blue wear at the muzzle. The rest of the metal is nice and the wood is very nice with 1 or 2 light scuffs. It'll need medium rings since what appear to be original low rings let the scope bell crowd the hammer. I've half-heartedly been looking at these and the 1885s for quite a while. My 1885 30-06 was a fine shooter..... The price is significantly better than anything I've seen in a long time. Are they worth messing with? He's holding it for me for a few days so I'll need to make a firm decision soon. And I wonder if the current liking for stainless/synthetic rifles will make gems like the 78 obsolete. Even at a very good price it's still too much to pizz away.
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Are you friggin' kidding? I like stainless and plastic for hunting in the rain but it has no heart. There's no decision to make, just go buy the [bleep] thing. If you have to sell a kidney or or left nut, so be it.
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I will make it mine. Thanks for the quick input. Were these early 78s lighter than the Browning 1885s? It seems to be both trimmer and faster handling but that may be my imagination.
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I will make it mine. Thanks for the quick input. Were these early 78s lighter than the Browning 1885s? It seems to be both trimmer and faster handling but that may be my imagination. Yeah, the B-78s are lighter.. by at least half pound. The 85s had a longer 28" barrel in a slightly heavier contour. Out of curiousity, what did they price that gun at?
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Blued steel and walnut will never go out of style.
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I picked the 78 up today. Made a very favorable trade - stuff that hasn't seen the light of day for 3 or 4 years. The rifle has cleaned up nicely and the bore, which was my biggest concern, cleaned up well at the shop and is even better since I worked on it here at home. The wood is in fine condition and the quality of the walnut is pretty sweet. All the checkering is clean and sharp. Now to put a set of rings on the Browning bases and get a scope mounted. I'm trying to date it but the serial number doesn't seem to match Browning's information. I think it's a 1975 gun but....
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Congrats!
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Congrats!
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BigSkyGuy, thank you. It's in pretty good shape for being 42 years old. The action is smooth as silk with no slop at all. The trigger is very good, maybe just a little light for my taste by about 1#, but quite nice. Now I'll look through my collection for a set of medium rings.
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Just an FYI since it appears you didn't get the original rings with the gun. The originals were different heights. You can get by using a mis-matched set of Leupold, Redfield, etc. rings with one low and one medium or a medium and a high (not as sure about the second option), other wise your scope won't be level. I know it sounds strange but that is the way the original rings were. You can set a level/straight edge on the bases and you'll see what I mean.
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David, thanks for the heads-up. The taller ring toward the muzzle? It's the usual turn-in front ring setup. The rings that were on it allowed no real clearance between the ocular bell and the hammer so I figured I'd put on a taller (medium) set. On my 1885 the hammer wasn't crowded that way.
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Yes the lower one goes in the rear and the front turn in is the higher ring. If it came with the Browning rings (glossy and different heights as stated), you can probably post them as a lot of the 78s seem to come without the original rings. I don't know why guys remove them since they are kind of gun specific but they do. I am not sure if the remake 78s had the same set up or not. I would hope they had the same height rings but I just don't remember from seeing them.
Good luck and they are fine rifles IMO.
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Rooster,
I had the same rifle in 30-06 that was made in 74. I scoped mine with a Leupold 6x M8 using Leupold low rear and med. front. I'm not sure if they'll still do it but I sent the rear ring back from a set of mediums to Leupold and got a low in return.
Mine would shoot right at moa. Someone else wanted it enough to pay me way more than I had in it. Somewhat regret selling it but it was in new condition and I new I was not going to hunt with it.
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Mine is an octagon barrel .30-06 as well. With the 26" barrel it is close to .300 Win Mag velocities and shoots 1/2" 3 shot groups consistently with Nosler 165 gr BT. Enjoy it.
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My 1885 was a .6 -.75 shooter with most loads. If it didn't like a load it opened up to 1.25. It was an excellent rifle. And it was heavy. Only reason I let it go. The 78 is noticeably lighter and I've been wanting to replace the 1885 for years.
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